Hi :)
Brilliant :) Congrats :) It's good to hear you managed to solve this so
quickly.
Congrats and regards from
Tom :)
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To:
On 09/10/2011 03:28 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
I've been thinking a lot about this lately as many of my clients are coming to
LibreOffice from Microsoft Office and I deal with both packages quite a bit.
Many times, one of the first things I do once LibreOffice is set up is to show
clients
On 09/10/2011 09:59 AM, Twayne wrote:
In
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Onyeibo Okutwoho...@gmail.com typed:
Sorry, this is another top-post. I agree totally but you
need to give people benefit of doubt too (like in my
On 10/09/2011, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
An odf-purists lists might be interesting though I am not sure how one
discerns what it means to be odf-pure, as opposed to OpenOffice-pure. Maybe
it is about OpenOffice purism, where use of the native ODF Open ... and Save
As
On 2011-09-10, David H. Lipman wrote:
From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
David H. Lipman wrote (10-09-11 16:21)
How do you think this post was made ?
Or the posts I made in JRE older installs - Windows - now online - no need
for Oracle
account ?
Your posts to the users-list come in the
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On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 22:28, Anthony Papillion papill...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been thinking a lot about this lately as many of my clients are coming
to LibreOffice from Microsoft Office and I deal with both packages quite a
bit. Many times, one of the first things I do once LibreOffice is
On 9/11/11 1:48 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
If you want bottom posting, and only bottom posting, then LO should make
that as a clear decision and then that should be communicated when you
sign up, and, it should be posted on a FAQ. Then, when some uninformed
person top posts, a nicely
A couple months ago I tried downloading an extension, and it was already
that way. It works, but only after some tries.
So, no, it's not you, it's Oracle. Who, ironically advertise they have
the best, scalable, stable servers...
It's becoming increasingly obvious that Oracle is putting
I agree, but is not supporting saving in secret formats really isolating them
from the rest of the world? Especially if the other software can read the open
format, wouldn't it be preferable to just tell them 'don't worry about it,
you're compatible' and leave it at that? Besides, I'd think
Hi :)
I think Apache might get it back under control and take an active interest in
it so don't worry too much.
Regards from
Tom :)
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On 09/09/11 07:36, Tom wrote:
Hi :)
If you try re-naming your profile does that fix it?
su
mv /home/username/.libreoffice/3 /home/username/.libreoffice/2011-09-08
That neatly keeps all your old profile in a new folder given the
reverse-date as a name. You can hopefully copy back some things
Its been 72 hours plus since I tried to post to;
gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user
And it STILL has not arrived !!
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Sir,
I am trying to delete a load of items out of the spreadsheet selection list
that I no longer use, but cannot find a way of doing it!
I use Abuntu with Libreoffice 3
Thanking you in anticipation
Best regards, JIM CROXALL
jim.crox...@yahoo.com
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yes;in an ideal world.but then in an ideal world proprietary software would
not have existed
On 11 September 2011 01:38, Anthony Papillion anth...@cryptofreaks.tkwrote:
I agree, but is not supporting saving in secret formats really isolating
them from the rest of the world? Especially if the
select the cell-right click-press the delete option.
if you want to delete a column,press the column header-right-click-delete
same for row
regards,
On 11 September 2011 14:36, Jim Croxall jim.crox...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sir,
I am trying to delete a load of items out of the spreadsheet selection
The answer is obvious. Save in odf and get used to using odf.
When there is a requirement to use an MS suffix,use Save As to do a copy in
doc or docx, but keep your copy in odf.
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For me, the answer is NOT obvious, because of (a) the occasional
incompatibilities and (b) the things that are easier in MS Office than
LibreOffice. I've had problems with LibreOffice where I save something
in *.doc format or *.ppt and reopen it, and it's different. Also, I've
been
On 09/10/2011 04:08 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
I agree, but is not supporting saving in secret formats really isolating them
from the rest of the world? Especially if the other software can read the open
format, wouldn't it be preferable to just tell them 'don't worry about it,
you're
Spencer,
Any chance you can create a few simple examples and open a bug against
the simple examples?
On 09/11/2011 11:31 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
For me, the answer is NOT obvious, because of (a) the occasional
incompatibilities and (b) the things that are easier in MS Office than
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 22:28, Anthony Papillion papill...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been thinking a lot about this lately as many of my clients are coming
to LibreOffice from Microsoft Office and I deal with both packages quite a
bit. Many times, one of the first things I do once LibreOffice is
Hi, Andrew:
Thanks for asking. Attached please find a single slide in
LibreOffice Impress consisting of a single dashed line. When I saved it
in MS Office 97 ppt format and reopened it in LibreOffice Impress 3.4.3,
the dashes were converted visually to solid. When I checked the line
For example, in LibreOffice 3.4.3 Impress, create a dashed line and save it
in MS PowerPoint 97 format. Close then reopen it. When I did that just now
under Windows 7 x64, the line style was lost and it displayed solid.
just checked it in both LO 3.3.4 and 3.4.3.'97 format (ie,ppt) showing
On 2011-09-11, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
On 09/10/2011 04:08 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
I agree, but is not supporting saving in secret formats really
isolating them from the rest of the world? Especially if the other
software can read the open format, wouldn't it be preferable to just
2011/9/11 Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com:
For me, the answer is NOT obvious, because of (a) the occasional
incompatibilities and (b) the things that are easier in MS Office than
LibreOffice.
How is that not obvious? Just continue using MS Office, or did I miss something?
On 2011-09-11, Spencer Graves wrote:
On 9/11/2011 9:19 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
Any chance you can create a few simple examples and open a bug
against the simple examples?
Thanks for asking. Attached please find a single slide in
LibreOffice Impress consisting of a single
On 9/11/2011 10:00 AM, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
On 2011-09-11, Spencer Graves wrote:
On 9/11/2011 9:19 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
Any chance you can create a few simple examples and open a bug
against the simple examples?
Thanks for asking. Attached please find a single slide in
I think that is an excellent description. Since my reason for working with
these formats is interoperability for and among everyone, I would not
participate exclusively on such a list.
It will be interesting to see what happens when folks who don't understand that
come to the wrong place.
Hello,
I know this is an old one, but I encounter it today and can't find the
answer in the list that easily... please help me out!
Where do I find the config file that I have to rename in order to get
rid of a restore files window that won't go away.
I'm on a Mac Lion 7.1 with LibO's newest
Spencer
The early version of MSO for the Mac left a lot to be desired, so I tried
OOo.
That was about six years ago.
I very quickly graduated onto NeoOffice, a great improvement, then when the
Doc F was founded I moved to LO.
I am treasurer of a society and whilst I am knowledgeable of the
On 10/09/11 04:49, Tod Hopkins wrote:
Problem with Writer (v3.3.2) document including graphic images. After
opening, and displaying the image correctly, at some point during editing all
images are replaced with Read Error and a broken link icon. Undo does not
restore. Closing and
On 9/11/2011 10:37 AM, Tinkerer wrote:
Spencer
The early version of MSO for the Mac left a lot to be desired, so I tried
OOo.
Fifteen years ago, I had compatibility problems with MS Word on PCs and
on Macs: Microsoft was not even compatible with itself across
platforms. That was a
Hi :)
We keep losing track of the path on Macs as so few people ask. This guide
migth help
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=12426
Ahh, apparently it's
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/3/user
You might find it is a little different on your
Guy
Go to Preferences Paths Backups.
I am not sure of this, but I think, that if you remove the backup files
Libre will create a new Untitled1 file.
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Hi
I agree with you
Regards,
Jorge Rodríguez
El sáb, 10-09-2011 a las 15:08 -0500, Anthony Papillion escribió:
I agree, but is not supporting saving in secret formats really isolating them
from the rest of the world?
Especially if the other software can read the
At 02:06 11/09/2011 -0700, Jim Croxall wrote:
I am trying to delete a load of items out of the spreadsheet
selection list that I no longer use, but cannot find a way of doing it!
There are two sorts of selection list, I think.
o The first sort appears in response to right-click | Selection
Hi :)
Ok, so that might be
/Users/user name/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/3/user/backups
and just re-naming the backups folder might be sufficient to hide it and
generate a new one. A bit more finesse than re-naming the entire config
folder!
Regards from
Tom :)
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Hi Tom,
Strangely enough 1: there is no LibO directory in my
Library/Application Support/
Strangely enough 2: there is no Libray in my Users/username/
so where may the config file be?
Hi Tink,
The restore window blocks access to my Prefs, so I can't lok up the
path to backups there
but I'm
Another example:
1. Download
http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/resources/flyers/noCreditCd-bookmark20110306.odt;.
2. Open in LibreOffice 3.4.3. Save as MS Word 97 *.doc format.
3. Close, then reopen the *.doc version: When I did this now under
Windows 7, this changed
Hi :)
Perhaps your file-browser is set to hide hidden folders? Is there a View
menu or a settings or config thign where you can set it to Show hidden
folders?
Regards from
Tom :)
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On 9/11/2011 9:54 AM, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
On 2011-09-11, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
On 09/10/2011 04:08 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
snip
Microsoft changes formats as a
market strategy.
As explained by Carl Shapiro and Hal Varian (1998) Information rules: a
strategic guide to the
I can see other maps in the application support.
Maybe the best will be to throw out LibO and install anew.
Guy
2011/9/11 Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:
Hi :)
Perhaps your file-browser is set to hide hidden folders? Is there a View
menu or a settings or config thign where you can set it to
Thanks for the image and explanation. Since I no longer have a missing font
document, I was not sure if that dialog would offer any help.
On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
On 2011-09-09, Tod Hopkins wrote:
On Sep 9, 2011, at 3:08 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
This is a general replay to
Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?
illustrating my personal situation, and why my answer is *yes*.
I moved from Microsoft Office Professional to Word Perfect Office
Professional probably 12 to 13 years ago. The reason for the
professional
On 09/11/2011 10:46 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
On 10/09/11 04:49, Tod Hopkins wrote:
Problem with Writer (v3.3.2) document including graphic images.
After opening, and displaying the image correctly, at some point
during editing all images are replaced with Read Error and a
broken link
I'm still bemused by the persistence of the secret Microsoft formats meme.
As a matter of fact, which formats that matter for OpenOffice are believed to
be secret? I can't find any that OpenOffice converts that are not public and
licensed under the Open Specification Promise as well.
That
Spencer
That is odd.
According to the Format/Page the column widths have not been altered.
On the page, they have.
Re. Your comments as to the future of LO and all FOSS.
Count me in.
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On 09/11/2011 11:47 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
I'm still bemused by the persistence of the secret Microsoft
formats meme.
As a matter of fact, which formats that matter for OpenOffice are
believed to be secret? I can't find any that OpenOffice converts
that are not public and licensed
Hello,
Looked at the bug report. This is really what's happening on my MBP,
but fortunately not on my iMac till now (both with Lion 7.1 and LibO
3.4.2 (probably)).
I tried the solution via Terminal and it seems to work. Thanks NoOp
for pointing in out - and for iago to provide the command.
On 11/09/2011, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com wrote:
LibreOffice. I've had problems with LibreOffice where I save something
in *.doc format or *.ppt and reopen it, and it's different.
This is the fundamental essence of the problem. The majority of m$
users of LO want a free m$
On 11/09/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote:
When you have a deliverable in a MSO format, then you must deliver in an
MSO format. This is often not negotiable.
Surely this is accounted for in the costs of you conducting such
business (i.e. buying a legal copy of each m$
On 11/09/2011, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
Which MS Office file format is secret? They are all published here:
http://www.microsoft.com/interop/docs/officebinaryformats.mspx
The original poster chose the wrong word; replace secret with proprietary
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I recently installed LibreOffice v3.4.3. I am running Linux (Mandriva
2010.2), and FF 6.02. My system is x86_64 as is the LO version. FF is i586
and installed in my /opt directory. LO when I open it and open the 'Options'
has no browser choice available under Internet choice on the left of the
On 09/11/2011 03:05 PM, NoOp wrote:
As a matter of fact, which formats that matter for OpenOffice are
believed to be secret? I can't find any that OpenOffice converts
that are not public and licensed under the Open Specification Promise
as well.
That may not be enough assurance for
Hi :)
Congrats :) Glad to hear you have sorted it :)
We need more devs but i think they are getting through the list as it is.
It's just a case of getting lucky and finding someone that is interested in
fixing the problem and can learn to code. The Easy Hacks is a good way to
learn or to
I've changed the subject because it appears there is an issue which is entirely
one about LibreOffice.
Spencer, can you provide a small sample of the following:
1. An .ODP of the document that shows the line formats you are concerned with.
2. The .PPT that you get when you save in that
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:05:01 -0400
From: donmy...@myersfarm.com
My assumption was that the word secret was used where it should have
been propriety. But certainly Microsoft wants to prevent as much
compatibility as possible.
Perhaps I did use 'secret' when I should have used
Hi :)
MS don't implement their standard in the way that they wrote they would.
Having set a standard anyone that follows that standard is guaranteed to
produce things that are a little wonky when opened in MS Office. LO devs work
at getting LO's implementation as wonky as MS's but the
Hi :)
The graphics have just wandered off somewhere off the edge of the page or
stacked under other graphics. It is annoying. If you open the ODF file by
changing it's ending to .zip or just open with an archive-manager instead of
LibreOffice then you will see the graphics are stored in there
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:33:09 +0100
From: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Hi :)
MS don't implement their standard in the way that they wrote they would.
Having set a standard
anyone that follows that standard is guaranteed to produce things that are a
little wonky when
opened in MS
On 2011-09-11, Anthony Papillion wrote:
From: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
MS don't implement their standard in the way that they wrote they
would. Having set a standard anyone that follows that standard is
guaranteed to produce things that are a little wonky when opened in
MS Office. LO devs
Hi :)
Yes, but it's very rare for a program to be 100% perfect. Thigns tend to be
reasonably close but just not close enough sometimes. Of course with
proprietary stuff it is usually difficult to get any bugs fixed but with
OpenSource it's possible for 'anyone' to fix a bug.
There are a
Hi all.
I want to make a spreadsheet that has a cell that has a little pulldown
list arrow on the side of the cell, so that when you click the arrow,
you see a list of things you can choose that populates the cell.
I'm not a strong spreadsheet user, so when I'm looking at the help
file I'm
On 09/11/2011 11:06 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
Another example:
1. Download
http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/resources/flyers/noCreditCd-bookmark20110306.odt;.
2. Open in LibreOffice 3.4.3. Save as MS Word 97 *.doc format.
3. Close, then reopen the *.doc version: When I did
On 9/11/2011 2:52 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Yes, but it's very rare for a program to be 100% perfect. Thigns tend to be
reasonably close but just not close enough sometimes.
Software is subject to a behavioral equivalent to Gödel's theorem
in mathematics in that it is humanly
NoOp Dennis:
What is the standard bug reporting procedure for LibreOffice? I
looked at libreoffice.org and didn't find anything, but I didn't look
too hard.
DENNIS: NoOp tested one of the problems I reported; see below.
NoOp: I submitted reproducible examples of two problems
Spencer sent me reproducible test cases for the two problems he has raised
here.
I have performed a conforming forensic analysis (without having looked inside
the format at all).
Here is the situation for the case of dashed lines in presentations.
CONCLUSIONS
This is a situation that has
Hi.
On 2011-09-12 06:32, Tod Hopkins wrote:
I'm seeing this with ODT's coming from NeoOffice, recent version. I know the
originator of the docs was not seeing this, but on Friday it happened to him.
I did not verify if he was using NeoOffice or LibreOffice at the time (we
both have both).
At 18:02 11/09/2011 -0400, Steve Noname wrote:
I want to make a spreadsheet that has a cell that has a little
pulldown list arrow on the side of the cell, so that when you click
the arrow, you see a list of things you can choose that populates
the cell. I'm not a strong spreadsheet user, so
On 09/11/2011 03:02 PM, JeepNut wrote:
Hi all.
I want to make a spreadsheet that has a cell that has a little pulldown
list arrow on the side of the cell, so that when you click the arrow,
you see a list of things you can choose that populates the cell.
I'm not a strong spreadsheet user,
I repeated test similar to those NoOp also performed to see how the variations
that I made with the dashed-line slide image show up here.
CONCLUSION
The round trip from Document A to B back to C is definitely broken in Libre
Office in the manner described by Spencer.
The opening of either
If LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org did not support M$ Office file
formats, nobody would support them. Like it or not, the M$ Office
file formats, both the older ones and the newer XML based ones, are
the defacto industry standards. The greatest marketing point that OOo
and its variants,
Spencer
On Sun, 2011-09-11 at 17:28 -0700, Spencer Graves wrote:
Hi, Dennis:
Thanks very much. Should I do something to file bug reports on
these items?
Spencer
I would go ahead a file a bug report. The address is
https://bugs.freedesktop.org. You will need to set
Edwin
On Sun, 2011-09-11 at 20:28 -0400, Edwin Powell wrote:
If LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org did not support M$ Office file
formats, nobody would support them. Like it or not, the M$ Office
file formats, both the older ones and the newer XML based ones, are
the defacto industry
Hi
On Sun, 2011-09-11 at 14:32 -0400, Don Myers wrote:
This is a general replay to
Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?
illustrating my personal situation, and why my answer is *yes*.
I moved from Microsoft Office Professional to Word Perfect Office
Professional
It is tough to figure out what bug to report in the multi-column text-flow
problem.
In the dashed line problem, it is easy to report two bugs, one for dashed lines
to .doc and one for dashed lines from .doc.
In this multi-column flow case, LibreOffice can round trip, and the bug is in
the
On 09/11/2011 04:02 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :) There is a guide here
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport This is mostly guidance
rather than rules as each case might be different. If you can't
include all the info required initially then it can always be added
in later if needed.
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