Warren Togami wrote:
> https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6247#c49
> https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6247#c51
> It turns out that the ReturnPath and DNSWL whitelists have a
> statistically insignificant impact on spamassassin's ability to
> determine ham
thus Charles Gregory spake:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Those were the days. A few poke and peek commands, 15 minutes
waiting for the cassette tape to load the pirated game...
Biggest thrill for me was reverse-egineering the 'fast loader' code in
one of the games so that I c
Warren Togami wrote on Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:12:05 -0500:
> All bugs targeted for 3.3.0.
When reviewing this list and playing around I found that there are 22 bugs
for milestone 3.2.6. Shouldn't these get reviewed and promoted to 3.3.0 if
still valid?
Kai
--
Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany
Get yo
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 21:20 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> No cpm here, but what was once os-9, now nitros-9 because we changed the cpu
> to a hitachi 6309, cmos & smarter, then re-wrote os-9. Both levels.
>
No CP/M here either, but I have a working Flex 09 relic - MC6809 with
parallel connected A
On Thursday December 17 2009 12:49:25 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> When reviewing this list and playing around I found that there are 22 bugs
> for milestone 3.2.6. Shouldn't these get reviewed and promoted to 3.3.0 if
> still valid?
What usually happens is that a bug was fixed in trunk (3.3),
but then (
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 18:27 -0800, Marc Perkel wrote:
>
> jdow wrote:
> > From: "Charles Gregory"
> > Sent: Wednesday, 2009/December/16 07:49
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
> >>> Marc Perkel wrote:
> http://www.vintage-computer.com/asr33.shtml
> >>> There was actua
LuKreme writes:
> On 16-Dec-2009, at 16:11, Michael Hutchinson wrote:
>> So far only 1 person on this list has claimed to have been hit by Spam that
>> has been let through by the Habeas rules in SA.
>
>
> I'm the only one? Really? That doesn’t jibe with my memory, but I'm not
> scanning the e
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 16:15, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> On ons 16 dec 2009 16:49:52 CET, Charles Gregory wrote
>
>> Marc Perkel wrote:
>>>
http://www.vintage-computer.com/asr33.shtml
>>> There was actually a time when I had one of those in my house.
>>>
>>
>> For your amusement:
>>
>> I
On 12/17/2009 2:50 AM, Rajkumar S wrote:
Hello,
I have 2 SA servers running for a single domain. Both were primed with
a set of 200 spam and ham messages are are now auto learning. After
about a day both have auto learned different numbers of ham and spam
mails. Is it possible to merge the bayes
In article <4b22a350.1030...@perkel.com>, Marc Perkel
writes
>
>Kevin Golding wrote:
>
>> bigfootinteractive.com. 3600IN TXT "v=spf1
>> ip4:206.132.3.0/24 ip4:206.132.1.0/24 ip4:216.35.62.0/25
>> ip4:216.33.63.0/24 ip4:209.67.13.128/25 ip4:66.7.58.0/24 -all"
>
In article <64de5c8b0912162232k1482d588y8ebe065f17c45...@mail.gmail.com>
, Rajkumar S writes
>On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, McDonald, Dan
> wrote:
>
>> I miss my Ohio Scientific C3. I had a Tektrinix 4027 terminal with more ram
>> than the computer.
>
>Just wondering if any one here started of
On 12/17/2009 2:50 AM, Rajkumar S wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have 2 SA servers running for a single domain. Both were primed with
> a set of 200 spam and ham messages are are now auto learning. After
> about a day both have auto learned different numbers of ham and spam
> mails. Is it possible to merge
On 12/17/09 8:56 AM, Kevin Golding wrote:
I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere...
Kevin
I had an ASR 33 teletype with an Anderson Jacobs 110 baud coupler. We
dialed into an 800 number owned by tymenet (an X.25 pad).
had to hit the ^p on the keyboard after it stopped scream
On 12/17/09 2:50 AM, Rajkumar S wrote:
Hello,
I have 2 SA servers running for a single domain. Both were primed with
a set of 200 spam and ham messages are are now auto learning. After
about a day both have auto learned different numbers of ham and spam
mails. Is it possible to merge the bayes d
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote:
> or, as one posted suggested, use one single mysql database. its faster and
> more stable.
Thanks every one, mysql is the way to go.
raj
On 12/17/2009 02:14 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote:
On 12/17/09 2:50 AM, Rajkumar S wrote:
Hello,
I have 2 SA servers running for a single domain. Both were primed with
a set of 200 spam and ham messages are are now auto learning. After
about a day both have auto learned different numbers of ham a
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:36:12 -0500
Michael Scheidell wrote:
> On 12/16/09 9:27 AM, Thomas Harold wrote:
> > I'm guessing that you'd also want to change the autolearn
> > thresholds to be stricter? Like only auto-learning if it scores
> > below -2 or above +10?
> >
> > (That might be an amavisd-n
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:04:18 -0500
Matt Kettler wrote:
> No.. If you're using file-based bayes, there's no good way to share
> updates between one DB and the other. The information needed to make
> such a merger successful isn't stored, because it is not needed for
> any reason within SpamAssass
Warren Togami wrote:
While whitelists are not directly effective (statistically, when
averaged across a large corpus), whitelists are powerful tools in
indirect ways including:
* Pushing the score beyond the auto-learn threshold for things like
Bayes to function without manual intervention
I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere...
Kevin
I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh
those were the days 8^)
But my first digital computer (at work) was a Raytheon 703 with paper
tape to load programs (after you fingered in the boot) an
Thank you, Warren. That (finally) gives some real perspective to this
mess, and gets some of the 'real' questions answered.
- C
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Warren Togami wrote:
I made a discovery today that surprised even myself. Using the rescore
masscheck and weekly masscheck logs while working
Jason Haar wrote:
On 12/17/2009 03:30 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
Then the third filed is NONE. That's how I do it. But the idea is
that any kind of daya can be collectively gathered and distributed.
Instead of a TCP channel (which means software), what about using DNS?
If the SA clients did RBL
On 12/17/2009 11:27 AM, Jason Bertoch wrote:
If whitelists are to be enabled by default, I believe their score should
be moved considerably more toward zero.
/Jason
I don't necessarily disagree with this desire, as now we know the
whitelists actually are making almost zero difference to spam
Hi,
I created a sample message, then tell spamassassin to learn it as spam
with the command
#sa-learn --spam spamtest.txt
then I tried the command
#spamc < spamtest.txt
but spamassassin still scored it as non-spam. Am I doing something
wrong? Please help!
Here is my spamtest.txt (based on GTUBE
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Yet Another Ninja wrote:
On 12/16/2009 6:16 PM, Charles Gregory wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Yet Another Ninja wrote:
> blabber... checkout SVN - follow dev list... HABEAS is history...
I believe the *point* here is that HABEAS is NOT 'history' for ordinary
systems runnin
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, LuKreme wrote:
On 16-Dec-2009, at 16:11, Michael Hutchinson wrote:
So far only 1 person on this list has claimed to have been hit by Spam
that has been let through by the Habeas rules in SA.
I'm the only one? Really? That doesn’t jibe with my memory, but I'm not
scanning th
re: CP/M
No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet?
My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088
CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to be CP/M
86.
I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to tell
me that
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Khanh Truong wrote:
I created a sample message, then tell spamassassin to learn it as spam
with the command
#sa-learn --spam spamtest.txt
then I tried the command
#spamc < spamtest.txt
but spamassassin still scored it as non-spam. Am I doing something
wrong? Please help!
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote:
I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying
to tell me that there was no such thing as an 8" floppy disk...
I wonder if IBM finally phased them out?
I still have a couple as souvenirs :)
- C
From: "Steve Lindemann"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 08:30
I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere...
Kevin
I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh
those were the days 8^)
Have one complete with the SASI hard disk.
{^_^}
{side note}
Has anyone noticed how the thread 'emailreg.org - tainted white list'
has been left unchanged, despite the topic moving on to Habeas. Whilst
this is side splittingly funny if you do a search on emailreg.org and
see it in the archives, it's probably not fair to drag their name
through th
From:
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 09:06
re: CP/M
No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet?
Processor Technology SOL-PC boosted to a higher speed (had to
reengineer timing on the board.) I also added a paddle board with S-100
slots on both sides. I was able to stick 5 S-100 cards into a remar
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote:
I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to
tell me that there was no such thing as an 8" floppy disk...
I wonder if IBM finally phased them out?
I still have a couple
From: "Christian Brel"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 09:28
{side note}
Has anyone noticed how the thread 'emailreg.org - tainted white list'
has been left unchanged, despite the topic moving on to Habeas. Whilst
this is side splittingly funny if you do a search on emailreg.org and
see it in
From: "John Hardin"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 09:35
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote:
I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying
to
tell me that there was no such thing as an 8" floppy disk...
Sometimes sa-update works, sometimes one gets
http: GET http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/asf/891585.tar.gz request failed:
403 Forbidden:
You don't have permission to access /sa-update/asf/891585.tar.gz on this server.
Apache/2.2.3 (Fedora) Server at daryl.dostech.ca Port 80
I recommend that htt
Steve Lindemann wrote:
I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere...
Kevin
I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh
those were the days 8^)
But my first digital computer (at work) was a Raytheon 703 with paper
tape to load programs (after yo
On 17/12/2009 1:00 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> Sometimes sa-update works, sometimes one gets
> http: GET http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/asf/891585.tar.gz request failed:
> 403 Forbidden:
> You don't have permission to access /sa-update/asf/891585.tar.gz on this
> server.
> Apache/2.2.3 (F
On Thursday 17 December 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote:
>re: CP/M
>
>No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet?
Sorry, my omission. The first gizmo I ever built, in 1979, was a Quest Super
Elf, which has an expansion connector on its board that allowed an s-100 buss
backplane to be plugged into it.
OK, thanks. I'd put some contact info on top of http://daryl.dostech.ca/,
above "This blog is currently in a static state pending an upgrade
of WordPress", in case something breaks next time.
On 17/12/2009 1:36 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> OK, thanks. I'd put some contact info on top of http://daryl.dostech.ca/,
> above "This blog is currently in a static state pending an upgrade
> of WordPress", in case something breaks next time.
I used to have that and I got about 100 messages a
Very interesting data indeed -- and a testament to the accuracy of the
SpamAssassin rules weighting process.
On Dec 16, 2009, at 4:10 PM, Warren Togami wrote:
> While whitelists are not directly effective (statistically, when averaged
> across a large corpus), whitelists are powerful tools in i
On 12/18/2009 05:31 AM, Marc Perkel wrote:
>
> In this case the idea is to gather data in real time. So those who
> gather data need to be able to send the data to a central place that
> receives the data and then makes it available to everyone.
>
You've lost me there - DNS would allow you to do th
> I believe on the whole Warren Togami's posting about a
> whitelist performance on a masscheck settles the affair.
> White lists are very reliable. They are also very unnecessary
> within SpamAssassin. So perhaps the whole topic can die.
>
> I also note that the people complaining about the w
On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:35 AM, LuKreme wrote:
> The fact is I *AM* their customer. The people writing them checks are not,
> they're just their funders. Whitelist companies ha to convince admins to use
> their list. The only way to do that is to have really really really high
> quality lists that
On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Christian Brel wrote:
> It's also fair to say any ESP such as Return Path taking money to
> deliver mail should be optimising it {or offering advice on
> optimisation) so it does *not* score high. Otherwise what are their
> customers paying them for?
Return Path is no
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:21:37 -0700
"J.D. Falk" wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Christian Brel wrote:
>
> > It's also fair to say any ESP such as Return Path taking money to
> > deliver mail should be optimising it {or offering advice on
> > optimisation) so it does *not* score high. Otherw
From: "Chris Hoogendyk"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 10:07
Steve Lindemann wrote:
I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere...
Kevin
I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh
those were the days 8^)
But my first digital computer (at work
From: "R-Elists"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 11:21
I believe on the whole Warren Togami's posting about a
whitelist performance on a masscheck settles the affair.
White lists are very reliable. They are also very unnecessary
within SpamAssassin. So perhaps the whole topic can die.
I also
From: "J.D. Falk"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 11:21
On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:35 AM, LuKreme wrote:
The fact is I *AM* their customer. The people writing them checks are not,
they're just their funders. Whitelist companies ha to convince admins to
use their list. The only way to do that is
hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote:
My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088
CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to be CP/M
86.
You and Jerry Pournelle :-)
jdow wrote:
From: "Chris Hoogendyk"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 10:07
Steve Lindemann wrote:
I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere...
Kevin
I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh
those were the days 8^)
But my first digital co
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote on Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:28:48 -0500:
> early this morning.
BTW, I was already getting this temporarily when trying to run the first
sa-update for SA 3.3.0 beta1 a few days ago.
Kai
--
Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany
Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.
On 17/12/2009 3:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote on Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:28:48 -0500:
>
>> early this morning.
>
> BTW, I was already getting this temporarily when trying to run the first
> sa-update for SA 3.3.0 beta1 a few days ago.
Could you tell me, off-list, the public
> -Original Message-
> From: LuKreme [mailto:krem...@kreme.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 4:59 p.m.
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: emailreg.org - tainted white list
>
> On 16-Dec-2009, at 16:11, Michael Hutchinson wrote:
> > So far only 1 person on this list ha
On 17/12/2009 2:21 PM, R-Elists wrote:
> ...based upon Togami's data processing, the biggest thing that comes to mind
> is this...
>
> *IF* these or similar rulesets are not truly not making a difference one way
> or the other, then why are they there?
>
> why do we really need them or the other
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, jdow wrote:
> I still have my K&E Log Log Duplex Decitrig. It still works. And it's
> still aligned despite it's being bamboo.
Ah, you've got the newer cheaper model. I inherited mine from my father
(40's vintage) and it has a rosewood core.
In my freshman year of college, (
On Thursday 17 December 2009, jdow wrote:
>From: "Chris Hoogendyk"
>Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 10:07
>
>> Steve Lindemann wrote:
> I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere...
>
> Kevin
>>>
>>> I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh
>>> th
On 16.12.2009 18:15, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> On ons 16 dec 2009 16:49:52 CET, Charles Gregory wrote
>
>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
>>> Marc Perkel wrote:
http://www.vintage-computer.com/asr33.shtml
>>> There was actually a time when I had one of those in my house.
>>
>> Fo
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Robert Ober wrote:
>hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote:
>> My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual
>> 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was
>> going to be CP/M 86.
>
>You and Jerry Pournelle :-)
Yeah, but Jerry is
On 17.12.2009 23:10, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
>
>
> On 16.12.2009 18:15, Benny Pedersen wrote:
>> On ons 16 dec 2009 16:49:52 CET, Charles Gregory wrote
>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
> http://www.vintage-computer.com/asr33.shtml
There was act
Suggesting to postpone the wrapup date till tomorrow (December 18)
to give us one more day to digest the latest changes and see
where we stand.
Mark
On 12/17/2009 04:24 PM, Mark Martinec wrote:
Suggesting to postpone the wrapup date till tomorrow (December 18)
to give us one more day to digest the latest changes and see
where we stand.
Mark
Seconded. I guess I'm spinning the rc1 unless jm wants to do it.
I'm reluctantly going to call
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
>On 17.12.2009 23:10, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
>> On 16.12.2009 18:15, Benny Pedersen wrote:
>>> On ons 16 dec 2009 16:49:52 CET, Charles Gregory wrote
>>>
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
> Marc Perkel wrote:
>> http://ww
Jari Fredriksson wrote:
On 16.12.2009 18:15, Benny Pedersen wrote:
On ons 16 dec 2009 16:49:52 CET, Charles Gregory wrote
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
http://www.vintage-computer.com/asr33.shtml
There was actually a time when I had one of those in my house
as far as museum pieces go, i submit that my first was an Apple 2E if i
remember correctly..
BRUN BEERRUN
was an interesting game, or something to that effect... ;-)
...and (snore) i also programmed a helicopter to fly across the top and drop
a bomb on a "space invader" and go boom...
wow hu
On Thursday 17 December 2009, R-Elists wrote:
>as far as museum pieces go, i submit that my first was an Apple 2E if i
>remember correctly..
>
>BRUN BEERRUN
>
>was an interesting game, or something to that effect... ;-)
>
>...and (snore) i also programmed a helicopter to fly across the top and
>
On 12/16/2009 10:50 AM, Marc Perkel wrote:
I had thought that at one time I already set it to text only on this
list and I had. But that was before the list name changed many years
ago. I'm been on this list since 2001.
One of the (many) reasons why I've switched over to having a dedicated
e
On 12/17/2009 10:30 AM, RW wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:36:12 -0500
Michael Scheidell wrote:
On 12/16/09 9:27 AM, Thomas Harold wrote:
I'm guessing that you'd also want to change the autolearn
thresholds to be stricter? Like only auto-learning if it scores
below -2 or above +10?
(That migh
> The absolute, without a doubt, biggest POS I ever had to live
> with was an
> 11/23 that had more hdwe bugs than all issues of windows
> combined since DOS5.0. Dec field engineers changed every
> piece in that thing except the frame rail with the serial
> number and all they managed to do
On 12/17/2009 11:17 AM, RW wrote:
>> If you're using file-based bayes, there's no good way to share
>> > updates between one DB and the other. The information needed to make
>> > such a merger successful isn't stored, because it is not needed for
>> > any reason within SpamAssassin. The database me
On Thursday 17 December 2009, R-Elists wrote:
>> The absolute, without a doubt, biggest POS I ever had to live
>> with was an
>> 11/23 that had more hdwe bugs than all issues of windows
>> combined since DOS5.0. Dec field engineers changed every
>> piece in that thing except the frame rail with th
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Matt Kettler wrote:
> As you mentioned, you'd need a custom script (not wildly complicated
> for a good perl scripter, but beyond the bounds of someone with only
> crude scripting skills.) as well as historical copies of each database
> from the last merge.
Is t
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:51:35 -0500
"Daryl C. W. O'Shea" wrote:
> I think the current score changes are a good step. Another step may
> be including in the release notes that there are whitelists and that
> people may want to disable them by score whatever rules (a list of
> them) 0.
Why not de
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:46:03 +1300
"Michael Hutchinson" wrote:
> Everyone else started carrying on about the Habeas rules being
> present at all, when it is more than within their power to disable
> those rules.
But they should not have to disable a whitelist that assists
with the delivery of b
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 08:20:47AM +1300, Jason Haar wrote:
> On 12/18/2009 05:31 AM, Marc Perkel wrote:
> >
> > In this case the idea is to gather data in real time. So those who
> > gather data need to be able to send the data to a central place that
> > receives the data and then makes it availa
From: "Gene Heskett"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 21:21
My impression of the (DEC) field engineers knowledge was that it was nil,
other
than the rote stuff, DEC had taught him. And I suspect Joanne would back
me
up on that. Those guys couldn't replace a stuck output cuz it had an open
From: "Christian Brel"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 22:11
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:51:35 -0500
"Daryl C. W. O'Shea" wrote:
I think the current score changes are a good step. Another step may
be including in the release notes that there are whitelists and that
people may want to disable
From: "Christian Brel"
Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 22:22
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:46:03 +1300
"Michael Hutchinson" wrote:
Everyone else started carrying on about the Habeas rules being
present at all, when it is more than within their power to disable
those rules.
But they should not
On he subject of Spammy whitelists...
* -1.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/,
low
* trust
* [212.159.7.100 listed in list.dnswl.org]
Yet the same IP is on and off SORBS and part of an ongoing spam
problem. Perhaps this can be reviewed and given a zero sc
On 18/12/2009 1:11 AM, Christian Brel wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:51:35 -0500
> "Daryl C. W. O'Shea" wrote:
>
>
>> I think the current score changes are a good step. Another step may
>> be including in the release notes that there are whitelists and that
>> people may want to disable them b
On 18/12/2009 1:22 AM, Christian Brel wrote:
> The issues here are clear:
> *The inclusion of white list that pretty much favours a single
> commercial mail organisation.
At present, to my knowledge Return Path is the only organization which
has approached us for inclusion in SpamAssassin. We wou
On 18/12/2009 2:13 AM, Christian Brel wrote:
> On he subject of Spammy whitelists...
>
> * -1.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/,
> low
> * trust
> * [212.159.7.100 listed in list.dnswl.org]
>
> Yet the same IP is on and off SORBS and part of an ongoing s
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