Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
Hello, +0.7 to declare 16 the winner and improve it +0.2 to start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 +0.1 to start all over What do you think about this: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-variation-engineering.png ? Raluca. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
Raluca Stavro wrote: Hello, +0.7 to declare 16 the winner and improve it +0.2 to start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 +0.1 to start all over What do you think about this: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-variation-engineering.png ? Raluca. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users +1 to start all over ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. Even though I don't like the 16 logo too much this has been a community vote so I'm ok to accept it. So I'm ok for option 1. Thanks -Vincent On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
Hi, On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 13:39, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. Even though I don't like the 16 logo too much this has been a community vote so I'm ok to accept it. Same for me, the community's choice is the community's choice whether I like it or not :-) Guillaume So I'm ok for option 1. Thanks -Vincent On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en ), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki SAS Skype: wikibc Twitter: glerouge http://guillaumelerouge.com/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 13:30, Raluca Stavro raluca.moro...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello, +0.7 to declare 16 the winner and improve it +0.2 to start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 +0.1 to start all over What do you think about this: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-variation-engineering.png ? I like this one, i voted for http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposal8RalucaStavro after all ;) Raluca. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
We should believe in evolution, not in intelligent design ;-) For me topology (i.e. shapes of character) looks good, though I'd like right part for w parallel to slope parts of X and k, with iki size adjusted accordingly (probably they need to be smaller then). Wouldn't it be better? Valdis Hello, What do you think about this: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-variation-engineering.png ? Raluca. ... ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 14:30, Raluca Stavro raluca.moro...@xwiki.comwrote: Hello, +0.7 to declare 16 the winner and improve it +0.2 to start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 +0.1 to start all over What do you think about this: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-variation-engineering.png ? Raluca. The variation is very nice and subtle :P On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en ), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
On Apr 20, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 13:30, Raluca Stavro raluca.moro...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello, +0.7 to declare 16 the winner and improve it +0.2 to start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 +0.1 to start all over What do you think about this: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-variation-engineering.png ? I like this one, i voted for http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposal8RalucaStavro after all ;) I also find it better. Thanks -Vincent Raluca. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. On 04/08/2010 06:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
On 04/19/2010 09:19 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello Community, The search for the XWiki.org logo isn't over yet... The second round of votes finished, with the following results: +9 for 4 +4 for 12 (I counted Thibaut's +1 for 12A as a +1 for 12) +1 for 15 +14 for 16 +1 for 19 Normally, 16 would be the winner, but since several key members of the community objected to it, I see three ways to proceed: 1. Declare 16 as the elected logo, but further improve it to soften the objections 2. Start a third round between improved version of 4 and 16 3. Slow down a bit, since there's no hard deadline to meet, and start all over, accepting new proposals I for one would go for option 1, if Vincent, Ludovic, Guillaume, Fabio agree. Ok for option 1. -Fabio ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
Raluca, Currently, the text is optically aligned with the apex of the right speech bubble. Aligning the mark to the type would harm its balance. Anyway, I'll come up with another proposal pretty soonish. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/XWiki-Logo-Challenge-Round-2-tp4872063p4924514.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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My humble try. Speech bubbles, negative space X. http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/xwikiroundedalt.png http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/xwikiroundedalt.png -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/XWiki-Logo-Challenge-Round-2-tp4872063p4920801.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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IMO it's a bit too late to give -1 for a logo that passed the first round. Is it less readable now? 16 was voted by 11 community members (including myself) in the first round. Do we count less than people from outside the project? If we want a community-chosen logo then we should let the community choose. If we want a logo that is good for marketing then we should find a branding company to do it for us. Thanks, Marius I completely agree with Marius, I would also add that since this is a Community project, it should have a Community logo ! Since 16 has receive many votes now, and that I also agree with Vincent, Ludovic and others, it is not readable enough, I have made an alternative design: W-angle. My feeling was that the W is difficult to read, so my proposal try to keep the style and reworked it. There is also small changes in spacing, and a different powered by button. Here is almost all that was requested in a proposal with this variable: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16%2Dwangle%2Ddefault.png I really hope that if the logo 16 is chosen, my proposal could help in mitigating the disappointment of those that really find it unacceptable. WDYT ? Denis -- Denis Gervalle SOFTEC sa - CEO eGuilde sarl - CTO ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On Apr 13, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: Hi all, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost ludo...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it.. I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read XWiki in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? IMO it's a bit too late to give -1 for a logo that passed the first round. Is it less readable now? No but if you check none of us voted for it and there was no rule for giving -1 (I would have given it otherwise since I didn't like it in the first round. That said I was pretty sure nobody would vote for it when I saw it. I was wrong it seems ;)). BTW the problem of readability was raised even in the first round but not much was done about it (or I didn't see it). 16 was voted by 11 community members (including myself) in the first round. Do we count less than people from outside the project? If we want a community-chosen logo then we should let the community choose. If we want a logo that is good for marketing then we should find a branding company to do it for us. errr? We *definitely* want a logo that is good for marketing! That's the main point (the only point?) of having a logo. When users log into some website and see this logo we want them to know the site is using XWiki (if they can't read it, they won't even be able to google it if they like it and want to find more about this project). It seems you're opposing marketing and community. I don't know why. This is all about marketing. The whole xwiki.org is about marketing (i.e. make people want to use XWiki). Otherwise we'd just publish the sources with no documentation at all. Thanks -Vincent PS: I'm not saying that we should revote or remove that logo. I'm just giving a strong opinion that the logo is unreadable and is going to cause a lot of confusion. I would like to see that fixed if that logo is selected by the vote. Thanks, Marius Guillaume Ludovic Le 12/04/10 16:44, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : On 04/12/2010 04:30 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote: My corrected vote is +1 for 12A. 12A has been retired and is no longer a valid option. Please choose another one. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Readability is better, but for me upper right backgoing serif for w seems unnecessary. In place of (ascii art): \// \ /\\/\/iki only in this way: \/ /\\/\/iki Then X can be bigger and w can be aligned with k. What do you think? Valdis I completely agree with Marius, I would also add that since this is a Community project, it should have a Community logo ! Since 16 has receive many votes now, and that I also agree with Vincent, Ludovic and others, it is not readable enough, I have made an alternative design: W-angle. My feeling was that the W is difficult to read, so my proposal try to keep the style and reworked it. There is also small changes in spacing, and a different powered by button. Here is almost all that was requested in a proposal with this variable: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16%2Dwangle%2Ddefault.png I really hope that if the logo 16 is chosen, my proposal could help in mitigating the disappointment of those that really find it unacceptable. WDYT ? Denis ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Hi all, How about this alternative: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-variation.png. I think that the W is readable now. Raluca. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Valdis Vītoliņš valdis.vitol...@odo.lv wrote: Readability is better, but for me upper right backgoing serif for w seems unnecessary. In place of (ascii art): \// \ /\\/\/iki only in this way: \/ /\\/\/iki Then X can be bigger and w can be aligned with k. What do you think? Valdis I completely agree with Marius, I would also add that since this is a Community project, it should have a Community logo ! Since 16 has receive many votes now, and that I also agree with Vincent, Ludovic and others, it is not readable enough, I have made an alternative design: W-angle. My feeling was that the W is difficult to read, so my proposal try to keep the style and reworked it. There is also small changes in spacing, and a different powered by button. Here is almost all that was requested in a proposal with this variable: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16%2Dwangle%2Ddefault.png I really hope that if the logo 16 is chosen, my proposal could help in mitigating the disappointment of those that really find it unacceptable. WDYT ? Denis ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
I don't particularly like the recent alternative suggestions, the w is either getting unwieldy or too wide, losing its original impact, and I'd drop my +1 for it in those cases. To add my hack, what if: a) the X was made bigger and put behind the Wiki part b) the w was a full W (straighter, not spread out) c) the k was a full k (add the vertical line) ... then it might be more readable while still retaining a logo quality? I didn't vote for 4 because I agree with some others: a) the pencils do imply drawing more than collaborative writing; b) it seems to be lacking that professional logo quality. But maybe we're forcing something that shouldn't be forced. Could it be that *none* of the proposed logos fit what you're after, and we're just choosing from the best options presented? Trevor On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:58:54 +0300 Raluca Stavro wrote: Hi all, How about this alternative: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-variation.png. I think that the W is readable now. Raluca. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
Trevor Russ wrote: I don't particularly like the recent alternative suggestions, the w is either getting unwieldy or too wide, losing its original impact, and I'd drop my +1 for it in those cases. To add my hack, what if: a) the X was made bigger and put behind the Wiki part b) the w was a full W (straighter, not spread out) c) the k was a full k (add the vertical line) ... then it might be more readable while still retaining a logo quality? I didn't vote for 4 because I agree with some others: a) the pencils do imply drawing more than collaborative writing; b) it seems to be lacking that professional logo quality. But maybe we're forcing something that shouldn't be forced. Could it be that *none* of the proposed logos fit what you're after, and we're just choosing from the best options presented? I'm looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X and http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/09/index.html . There are some X representations which could have been the starting point for the XWiki logo (e.g. the Egyptian hieroglyph column, Phoenician S, Greek Xi, Braille or Morse code for X). I would have liked to see a logo proposal consisting of an easy to remember symbol that is not visually related to the latin X, even if it didn't had a lot of meaning. Thanks, Marius Trevor On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:58:54 +0300 Raluca Stavro wrote: Hi all, How about this alternative: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-variation.png. I think that the W is readable now. Raluca. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
Maybe I am late... Anyway +1 for 4A. -Fabio On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost ludo...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it.. I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read XWiki in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. I said the same thing in a previous email so that makes 3 of us so far. Thanks -Vincent Any thoughts? Guillaume Ludovic Le 12/04/10 16:44, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : On 04/12/2010 04:30 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote: My corrected vote is +1 for 12A. 12A has been retired and is no longer a valid option. Please choose another one. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
On 04/13/2010 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubostludo...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it.. I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read XWiki in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? Maybe it would be good for people to propose improved versions, but it will be hard to improve readability while also maintaining the style/logo idea. One option would be to keep just the X from the logo, and use a normal font for writing the actual product name (something like 4 does with the pencils). Guillaume Ludovic Le 12/04/10 16:44, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : On 04/12/2010 04:30 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote: My corrected vote is +1 for 12A. 12A has been retired and is no longer a valid option. Please choose another one. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost ludo...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it.. I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read XWiki in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? Guillaume I share your opinion... Besides the fact that I don't like it because it's miles away from the web 2.0 style that I think we tend to. It would be good if our style was geeky-oldschool but I don't think it's the case. But this is a personal and questionable opinion. The fact is that me too, at a first glance, I can't read XWiki in it and I have to make an effort in order to see XWiki written in that logo. My 2 cents, Fabio ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Hi, I think version 16 is the ONLY original logo we have for this challenge. It is abstract enough to make a great brand and be reused for variations. It is simple, straightforward and easily to remember (not to reproduce, to remember that you've seen it before). It's look IMO is perfect for a technical application and community. It's smart, creative and I LOVE IT :) Go version 16 :) Caty On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:41, Fabio Mancinelli fabio.mancine...@xwiki.comwrote: On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost ludo...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it.. I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read XWiki in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? Guillaume I share your opinion... Besides the fact that I don't like it because it's miles away from the web 2.0 style that I think we tend to. It would be good if our style was geeky-oldschool but I don't think it's the case. But this is a personal and questionable opinion. The fact is that me too, at a first glance, I can't read XWiki in it and I have to make an effort in order to see XWiki written in that logo. My 2 cents, Fabio ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Btw, logos are graphical marks and is not mandatory that they are logotypes (wordmarks). This means you don't necessarily need to read the name of the product from the start (look at apple, volkswagen, audi, sun, etc). After you know it's XWiki, you can easily see what proposal 16 states. The logo should be the identity and feeling of that product. Having a smart logo would be nice for us, don't you think? Caty On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 13:00, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think version 16 is the ONLY original logo we have for this challenge. It is abstract enough to make a great brand and be reused for variations. It is simple, straightforward and easily to remember (not to reproduce, to remember that you've seen it before). It's look IMO is perfect for a technical application and community. It's smart, creative and I LOVE IT :) Go version 16 :) Caty On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:41, Fabio Mancinelli fabio.mancine...@xwiki.com wrote: On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost ludo...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it.. I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read XWiki in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? Guillaume I share your opinion... Besides the fact that I don't like it because it's miles away from the web 2.0 style that I think we tend to. It would be good if our style was geeky-oldschool but I don't think it's the case. But this is a personal and questionable opinion. The fact is that me too, at a first glance, I can't read XWiki in it and I have to make an effort in order to see XWiki written in that logo. My 2 cents, Fabio ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
On Apr 13, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: Btw, logos are graphical marks and is not mandatory that they are logotypes (wordmarks). This means you don't necessarily need to read the name of the product from the start (look at apple, volkswagen, audi, sun, etc). After you know it's XWiki, you can easily see what proposal 16 states. I don't agree with this reasoning. Either you use a logo that doesn't mean anything (ie it's a symbol, an image, etc) or you have a logo with letters and in that case it must be readable. Even though I know it's about XWiki, I can't even read it... I don't find the logo that smart. A smart logo is a logo that is simple, polished and that be read easily. Cleverness is not usually that good in branding since a good portion of people won't understand the clever thing. Thanks -Vincent The logo should be the identity and feeling of that product. Having a smart logo would be nice for us, don't you think? Caty On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 13:00, Ecaterina Valica vali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think version 16 is the ONLY original logo we have for this challenge. It is abstract enough to make a great brand and be reused for variations. It is simple, straightforward and easily to remember (not to reproduce, to remember that you've seen it before). It's look IMO is perfect for a technical application and community. It's smart, creative and I LOVE IT :) Go version 16 :) Caty On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:41, Fabio Mancinelli fabio.mancine...@xwiki.com wrote: On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost ludo...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it.. I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read XWiki in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? Guillaume I share your opinion... Besides the fact that I don't like it because it's miles away from the web 2.0 style that I think we tend to. It would be good if our style was geeky-oldschool but I don't think it's the case. But this is a personal and questionable opinion. The fact is that me too, at a first glance, I can't read XWiki in it and I have to make an effort in order to see XWiki written in that logo. My 2 cents, Fabio ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
Hi all, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 00:41, Ludovic Dubost ludo...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it.. I'd like to react about this: at this stage I share Ludovic's feeling. I had people from outside the project look at the 16 logo and they weren't able to read XWiki in it. I'm afraid that while stylistically interesting, this logo is too unreadable for mainstream use - unless we don't expect anyone to understand the XWiki logo that is. I'm feeling pretty close to giving it a -1 too if its readability isn't improved. I know I might be going against the flow here but we're about to make a significant choice here and I don't want us to regret it. Any thoughts? IMO it's a bit too late to give -1 for a logo that passed the first round. Is it less readable now? 16 was voted by 11 community members (including myself) in the first round. Do we count less than people from outside the project? If we want a community-chosen logo then we should let the community choose. If we want a logo that is good for marketing then we should find a branding company to do it for us. Thanks, Marius Guillaume Ludovic Le 12/04/10 16:44, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : On 04/12/2010 04:30 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote: My corrected vote is +1 for 12A. 12A has been retired and is no longer a valid option. Please choose another one. -- Ludovic Dubost Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/ XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
+1 for 4 Thomas Le 12/04/10 10:22, Jerome Velociter a écrit : +1 for 4 Jerome. +1 to 16B (default-straight). Raluca. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriuser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
Hi, +0.8 for 12A +0.2 for 16B -- Thibaut Camberlin On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Eveilleau tho...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 for 4 Thomas Le 12/04/10 10:22, Jerome Velociter a écrit : +1 for 4 Jerome. +1 to 16B (default-straight). Raluca. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriuser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en ), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
My corrected vote is +1 for 12A. :) On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Thibaut Camberlin thibaut.camber...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi, +0.8 for 12A +0.2 for 16B -- Thibaut Camberlin On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Eveilleau tho...@xwiki.comwrote: +1 for 4 Thomas Le 12/04/10 10:22, Jerome Velociter a écrit : +1 for 4 Jerome. +1 to 16B (default-straight). Raluca. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriuser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en ), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
hard to choose, but it's gonna be +1 for 16B (slanted Ws). Happy hacking, Anca On 04/08/2010 07:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
+1 for 4A and I'm at this point very -1 on 16 because of the W which has a missing arm.. I can't read XWiki in it.. Ludovic Le 12/04/10 16:44, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : On 04/12/2010 04:30 PM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote: My corrected vote is +1 for 12A. 12A has been retired and is no longer a valid option. Please choose another one. -- Ludovic Dubost Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/ XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
+1 16b Slanted w's On 04/08/2010 07:02 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
I like both 4A and 12E but 4A is less close to old xwik.org so: +1 for 4A On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 18:02, Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge, Round 2
Hi, I'm +1 for 4A too. Looks very nice with the brighter colors! Guillaume On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 16:56, Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.comwrote: I like both 4A and 12E but 4A is less close to old xwik.org so: +1 for 4A On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 18:02, Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello XWiki Community, We're still looking for the new XWiki.org logo. First of all, many thanks to all those who submitted their ideas ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge ). After the first round of votes (digest here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en ), we chose 6 popular proposals for the second round: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . The authors of these proposals were asked to do the following, if not already done for round 1: * try to integrate any constructive feedback that came with the votes (a digest of the feedback from the emails is available for each proposal on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 ) * polish the design (if they consider it necessary) * provide the requested variations for .org, enterprise and office * provide samples for light and dark background * provide a blackwhite version * provide a 16X16 icon containing the logo or a representative part of the logo * provide a nice Powered by XWiki button that goes with the logo * provide a mockup/screenshot with the logo used in the current skin, colibri For most of the finalist logos, the _final_ versions were already uploaded here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2 . For those who were not updated, we will use the initial submissions for round 2 as well, and voters will have to use their imagination in case any of the required use cases is missing. VOTING: You can send your vote on the mailing list (d...@xwiki.org or users@xwiki.org), in reply to this email. No twitter votes this time. Each voter can grant a whole +1 to only one of the 6 finalists ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallengeRound2#HFinalistproposals ). IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: * Is it distinctive? Note that it should not resemble other logos, including the XWiki SAS/xwiki.com logo. * Is it easy to remember and recognize? * Does it blend in smoothly with the Colibri skin? With the new XWiki.org skin? Note that adjustments to the skin is possible, in order to better integrate with the logo. * Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? * Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? * What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. TIMELINE: 08/Apr/10 : Beginning of second round of votes on d...@xwiki.org, users@xwiki.org 11/Apr/10 : End of votes Thanks, -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs -- Thomas Mortagne ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki SAS Skype: wikibc Twitter: glerouge http://guillaumelerouge.com/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
Hi all, It is very hard to choose (and by this all participants should understand that all proposals are noteworthy). I also took into account following criteria: can I draw it with a pencil on a paper in a single color and it would still be recognized? As a result my votes and comments go like this: 4 0.2 -- either B, or A with thicker pencils so that the X is more obvious 5 0.1 -- I like the way it looks but I don't see that much of a wiki reference + it's not drawable 12E 0.1 -- it's nice, close / far enough of the old logo, but it looses in drawability and single color 16 0.2 (with a little more for B, maybe) -- there could be a color issue but the shape would make it recognizable easily 20 0.2 -- I like the way it blends together and it is pretty recognizable 8 0.1 -- I like the wheels a lot, they're very much app platform, geek-ish 6B 0.1 -- I like the idea but it really needs different colors and more polish, right now it looks a bit flashy and raw I also liked the looks of proposals 2, both A and B, but they're not very much drawable and the X is not very obvious + I couldn't find why arrows would be representative for xwiki... Note that although 15 meets pretty well the criteria above, it still looks to me too much around the atlassian logo (yeah, any human shape would do it)... + I'm more fond of geometric shapes, I think... Thanks, Anca On 03/26/2010 01:17 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hi Community, The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 proposals available here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals You can send your vote: - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogoproposal_number Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result. IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: - Is it distinctive? - Is it easy to remember and recognize? - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo evokes in people's minds. Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws. If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a second round of voting. Please send us your votes before March 31st. On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote: Hi XWikiers! It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about improving its look feel we thought it would be a good time to create a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website design. We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own logo. As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month). The challenge takes place there: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
Hi, I vote for 4C, I think it's clear, attractive and you can read in the logo the idea of XWiki: collaborative application. Raphaelle -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/XWiki-Logo-Challenge-tp4655618p4823075.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
I vote for +0.9 for 16B and +0.1 for 4A I feel 16B catches the spirit of XWiki.org quite good - http://twitter.com/jvelo/status/11142009451 Jerome. My favorite is 15. * nice work done for 15 but i find the logo too similar to Atlassian logo (any basic human based logo would look too Atlassiannish to me i think) I strongly disagree that just because it represent a people, it is Atlassian like, they do not hold the exclusivity of people logos. Atlasian logo is like a weight-lifter that lift the world, very straight on its foot. Nothing to do with a happy jumping man, using really curved shape at all ! XWiki is about peoples sharing information and compare to most other logo, 15 is one that have the most interesting evocation. Without dash, in red or another color, avoiding blue (even if I like it) and probably using a more curved font to improve, if needed, the clear difference it have with the Atlassian logo. I would be curious to see what Vishal could propose with some more work. 19 would be my second choice, since it is curved, and even nice straight logo like 7, 8 or 16 evoke to me some inflexibility or technicality, which is frightening. 12 could be interesting as a continuation on the initial theme, but it would be less distinctive with XWiki.com, probably a nice evolution for them not for the open-source one. 1, 2 and 13 are not scaling. 17 is nice, but not scaling and evocation is inappropriate. Appart for not being easy to scale, I feel 4 is not readable for newcomers, using only 2 pencils, could probably helps there. Many thanks to all designers anyway for their proposal and please do not feel hurt by my remarks that I really hope to be constructive. Denis ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
Hi XWikiers, I like 12B and 12E. I like 15, which to me is probably the most distinctive of all the logos presented. I also like the fact that one can read a X, a W, a i and a K in that little guy's shape :-) I think the - should be removed between the X and Wiki and that the case should be switched from X-WIKI to XWiki but that's minor. In short, probably my favorite one. I have an issue with 16 - I showed it to a couple friends and they were unable to read it as XWiki. I kinda like it but I already know it's supposed to mean XWiki but I'm afraid it's not readable enough for other people. I also like 19 (the two-colors version, not the 3D shaped one). I also happened to see a version of 19 with a font that made it look nicer - JV, do you think that version could be added to the page? Guillaume On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Emilie Ogez emilie.o...@xwiki.com wrote: My favorite is also 15. Denis Gervalle a écrit : My favorite is 15. * nice work done for 15 but i find the logo too similar to Atlassian logo (any basic human based logo would look too Atlassiannish to me i think) I strongly disagree that just because it represent a people, it is Atlassian like, they do not hold the exclusivity of people logos. Atlasian logo is like a weight-lifter that lift the world, very straight on its foot. Nothing to do with a happy jumping man, using really curved shape at all ! XWiki is about peoples sharing information and compare to most other logo, 15 is one that have the most interesting evocation. Without dash, in red or another color, avoiding blue (even if I like it) and probably using a more curved font to improve, if needed, the clear difference it have with the Atlassian logo. I would be curious to see what Vishal could propose with some more work. 19 would be my second choice, since it is curved, and even nice straight logo like 7, 8 or 16 evoke to me some inflexibility or technicality, which is frightening. 12 could be interesting as a continuation on the initial theme, but it would be less distinctive with XWiki.com, probably a nice evolution for them not for the open-source one. 1, 2 and 13 are not scaling. 17 is nice, but not scaling and evocation is inappropriate. Appart for not being easy to scale, I feel 4 is not readable for newcomers, using only 2 pencils, could probably helps there. Many thanks to all designers anyway for their proposal and please do not feel hurt by my remarks that I really hope to be constructive. Denis ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki SAS Skype: wikibc Twitter: glerouge http://guillaumelerouge.com/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
Hi Guillaume, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: Hi XWikiers, I like 12B and 12E. I like 15, which to me is probably the most distinctive of all the logos presented. I also like the fact that one can read a X, a W, a i and a K in that little guy's shape :-) I think the - should be removed between the X and Wiki and that the case should be switched from X-WIKI to XWiki but that's minor. In short, probably my favorite one. I have an issue with 16 - I showed it to a couple friends and they were unable to read it as XWiki. I kinda like it but I already know it's supposed to mean XWiki but I'm afraid it's not readable enough for other people. I agree that the way XWiki is written in 16 doesn't make it easy to be read, but to me that isn't the logo. The logo IMO is what follows the hard-to-read text. The text just shows how the logo was extracted. At least that's how I see it. Thanks, Marius I also like 19 (the two-colors version, not the 3D shaped one). I also happened to see a version of 19 with a font that made it look nicer - JV, do you think that version could be added to the page? Guillaume On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Emilie Ogez emilie.o...@xwiki.com wrote: My favorite is also 15. Denis Gervalle a écrit : My favorite is 15. * nice work done for 15 but i find the logo too similar to Atlassian logo (any basic human based logo would look too Atlassiannish to me i think) I strongly disagree that just because it represent a people, it is Atlassian like, they do not hold the exclusivity of people logos. Atlasian logo is like a weight-lifter that lift the world, very straight on its foot. Nothing to do with a happy jumping man, using really curved shape at all ! XWiki is about peoples sharing information and compare to most other logo, 15 is one that have the most interesting evocation. Without dash, in red or another color, avoiding blue (even if I like it) and probably using a more curved font to improve, if needed, the clear difference it have with the Atlassian logo. I would be curious to see what Vishal could propose with some more work. 19 would be my second choice, since it is curved, and even nice straight logo like 7, 8 or 16 evoke to me some inflexibility or technicality, which is frightening. 12 could be interesting as a continuation on the initial theme, but it would be less distinctive with XWiki.com, probably a nice evolution for them not for the open-source one. 1, 2 and 13 are not scaling. 17 is nice, but not scaling and evocation is inappropriate. Appart for not being easy to scale, I feel 4 is not readable for newcomers, using only 2 pencils, could probably helps there. Many thanks to all designers anyway for their proposal and please do not feel hurt by my remarks that I really hope to be constructive. Denis ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
I like 12E and 16A On 03/26/2010 12:17 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Hi Community, The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 proposals available here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals You can send your vote: - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo proposal_number Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result. IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: - Is it distinctive? - Is it easy to remember and recognize? - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo evokes in people's minds. Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws. If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a second round of voting. Please send us your votes before March 31st. On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote: Hi XWikiers! It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about improving its look feel we thought it would be a good time to create a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website design. We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own logo. As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month). The challenge takes place there: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
Hi Sergiu, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: FYI, the current vote results are available at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah6DqXzfHT2vdHV5Ty1LX3lKU3U5V3M4YmNFSXEzcVEhl=en and it looks like there is no clear winner. At the moment it seems that we'll have a second round with 4, 12, 15 and 16 (and maybe 19). In the spreadsheet I converted non-numerical votes to what I felt was the intent of the voter, please correct if my assumptions were wrong. There are two columns with no label, I and N. What is their meaning? Also in my case the points don't sum to 1. Is it right? I added the remaining 0.1 to 16B. Thanks, Marius Only two days left for the first round of votes. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 13:17, Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi Community, The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 proposals available here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals You can send your vote: - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo proposal_number Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result. IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: - Is it distinctive? - Is it easy to remember and recognize? - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo evokes in people's minds. Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws. If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a second round of voting. Please send us your votes before March 31st. On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote: Hi XWikiers! It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about improving its look feel we thought it would be a good time to create a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website design. We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own logo. As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month). The challenge takes place there: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
Great entries, congrats! My vote goes to: 0.7 - P16.A 0.1 - P1 0.1 - P4.C 0.1 - P12.E (with some modifs) Thanks, Caty ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
I just notice that I wrote 'A' ... Sorry. My vote goes to P16 B. Raluca. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Raluca Stavro raluca.moro...@xwiki.com wrote: I vote for P16 A. Raluca. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu ser...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi Community, The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 proposals available here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals You can send your vote: - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogo proposal_number Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result. IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: - Is it distinctive? - Is it easy to remember and recognize? - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo evokes in people's minds. Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws. If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a second round of voting. Please send us your votes before March 31st. On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote: Hi XWikiers! It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about improving its look feel we thought it would be a good time to create a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website design. We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own logo. As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month). The challenge takes place there: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
On 03/26/2010 02:22 PM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote: Not sure what I like yet but I wanted to make a few notes. 12 13 bear a strong resemblance to an American telephone company. http://wigab.com/images/site/2007-01/blog/44-Cingular_Dropped_Out.jpg 7 looks like barbed wire which isn't very inviting. I think only a slight change would be necessary to stop that. 15 uses a hyphen which is not in the url, however I think the egg shaped background is symbolic of the extendability of XWiki. 15: This is a minor detail, it could be fixed if the logo is chosen. 14 has an X which looks like it could be used in other places as an icon. 11 I like the hummingbird but the font seems mismatched. Caleb -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] XWiki Logo Challenge
I like: 8 - I see engineering in the gears which relates to the platform aspect. It's a bit too vertical though. I wonder what it could become more horizontal 4A - with different colors for the pencils Great jobs by all participants.. All the logos have something nice ! Ludovic Le 26/03/10 12:17, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : Hi Community, The XWiki Logo proposal period is now closed, many thanks to everyone who participated. It is now the time to vote the new logo amongst the 19 proposals available here: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/Community/LogoChallenge#HProposals You can send your vote: - on the mailing list, by replying to this e-mail - on twitter, in the format: #xwikilogoproposal_number Don't hesitate to nominate several proposals if you feel that they are really close and you cannot decide for just one. Sometimes, a bunch of fuzzy opinions can lead to a more accurate result. IMPORTANT: Before choosing a logo based on your personal preference, please try to also ask yourself the following questions: - Is it distinctive? - Is it easy to remember and recognize? - Is the design scalable? Could it (or parts of it) be successfully used in a 16X16 icon? Would it look good on a very large poster? - Can it be used (as it is, or adapted) on both light and dark backgrounds? - What would it look like in black and white (not just grayscale)? It's ok if some details are lost, but it needs to still look attractive and keep the main features. Motivating your vote also helps better understand what qualities a logo evokes in people's minds. Also note that the designs are not final, the selected proposal will be further tweaked and perfected, so don't discard a logo just for minor flaws. If several proposals come close to being selected, we could organize a second round of voting. Please send us your votes before March 31st. On 03/01/2010 05:57 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote: Hi XWikiers! It's time to inject new blood in XWiki.org. While discussing about improving its look feel we thought it would be a good time to create a new logo for XWiki.org as it's an important part of a website design. We borrowed the current logo from XWiki.com some time ago and, in order to keep the distinction between the company and the Open-Source project clear, we think XWiki.org websites and projects need their own logo. As you may know, we love proposals, that's why we'd like to make the logo design an open challenge, anyone interested can join and a vote amongst the community will determine the winner. Even if the main purpose of the challenge is to have fun, the person whose design gets selected will receive XWiki goodies, including his logo printed on a t-shirt obviously :) The designer of the selected logo will enter the Hall Of Fame, and last but not least reward : the design will be spread wide (XWiki Enterprise is more than 1 downloads/month and XWiki.org web site more than 5 visits a month). The challenge takes place there: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/LogoChallenge -- Ludovic Dubost Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/ XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
