Hey TC.
This little story follows the thread about the strange sounds and other
manifestations that can happen...you mentioned in your post about not
tightening down a spark plug
Well I chased a very strange problem for almost 2 full weeks!
What happen is this:
I installed a new set of
R1 calipers, HH pads, XJR-1300 master cyl=killer brakes.
Do you want me to get you a master cylinder? I can assure you you won't
send it back.
I had the first organised ride with a total of 4 Maxes on Saturday. Two of
them are fitting my brake setup right away so I'm ordering the parts for
them.
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R1 calipers, HH pads, XJR-1300 master cyl=killer brakes.
Do you want me to get you a master cylinder? I can assure you you won't
send it back.
Thanks Sam!! I was hoping you'll add your comments...
Mario
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Second part . When I had the pads out of my '99 bike the stock pads
were marked
as having a HH friction material . Are the EBC's HH pads superior ?
Eric H.
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Eric, the HHs are up there with the best.. long life, no disk damage, great
stopping power, good price...
Steve
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Second part . When I had the pads out of my '99 bike the stock pads
were marked
as
I'd have to agree with you, it's a wash, but...it's a psychological motor-head wash that some people, who don't think factory equipment is good enough must do. 11
is
mounted level or lower than the calipers or wheel cylinders . Just
thought you all would like to know :)
Eric H.
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Eric Harnish wrote:
When comparing two calipers the rotors
are the same the pumping
force of the master cylinder is the same is there a gain if using a
greater number of pistons in the caliper ?
NOT if you still use the same master cyclinder
I'm looking at a set of six piston calipers
. I
Eric Harnish wrote:
Second part . When I had the pads out of my '99 bike the stock pads
were marked
as having a HH friction material .
Those are NOT stock pads
Are the EBC's HH pads superior ?
Far superior!!
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November 26, 2000 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: Brakes 6 piston to 4 piston
Eric Harnish wrote:
Second part . When I had the pads out of my '99 bike the stock
pads
were marked
as having a HH friction material .
Those are NOT stock pads
Are the EBC's HH pads super
Eric Harnish wrote:
Mario,
I bought the bike new took it out of the crate myself . The pads
in my
bike have not been replaced and they are Sumitomo Toyo HH pads .
Eric,
As far as I know, EBC was the
only manufacturer allowed to use the term
"H H" on their pads, (but, of course I may be
It's very easy. Go to http://caber.com/vmax/
This site has the whole service manual on line. The brakes are at #6.11
in the Chassis section. In terms of your late model brakes compared to
the older design shown in the manual, the basic procedure is exactly the
same.
The only suggestion I have
It
would be good to flush out your brake fluid with fresh after changing
pads. Just go slow, being careful not to spill. Not hard at all and
should be done every two years or so.
Ronald Fisch V.M.O.A. 7886 mostly stock,
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It is Sam's brother
Eric
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Eric, what pads is your brother using?
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these brembos are fantastic...
i bought a set for my '88...
there's a kit to suit a post-93 too...no worries...
serious stopping power...
i sorta wish they wern't gold...
but the performance makez them worth it...
almost worth their weight in... ;)
cheerz...simon... :)
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Still didn't work Eric.
Anyway, back onto the brakes. I got a bit more air out of the master I
believe by doing Mario's tapping on the lever. It feels virtually normal now
but it's still raining so I won't get out till tommorrow or Saturday (I'm a
day in front of you) to try it properly.
I also
Is this a V-Max upgrade kit specifically for early or late V-Maxes? or does
other fabricating need to be done? Mine is a late model ('99). If it is a
bolt on kit where do you get them?
Thanks Don
Sam Blumenstein
donald smith wrote:
300mm full floaters and gold 4 piston calipers from Brembo.
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Still didn't work Eric.
Anyway, back onto the brakes. I got a bit more air out of the master I
believe by doing Mario's tapping on the lever. It feels virtually
normal now
but it's still raining so I won
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Still didn't work Eric.
Anyway, back onto the brakes. I got a bit more air out of the master I
believe by doing Mario's tapping on the lever. It feels virtua
Eric, I agree with your prognosis in my case. Air or a master that is on the
way out.
As for the R1 calipers, they are only marginally better than stock late
model V-Max items, but they saved a few ounces and look so cute with those
blue anodised centres I'm leaving them on. Considering they cost
Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] See if this works
Eric
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Eric, I agree with your prognosis in my case. Air or a master that is
on th
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on 10/23/00 6:27 PM, Eric Harnish at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm going to have you take a look at the calipers . Take a feeler
gage
set and check the clearence
between the pistons and the brak
here must be a brake expert on the list that has had this experience
before ... I suspect however that the little "flap" in the bottom of
the master cylinder has something to do with this.
Anyhow ... just my opinion
campbell
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Eric,
I don't want to contribute to a "brake" war but I have to agree with
Sat Tara on this one. IMHO, (and we al
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on 10/23/00 8:39 PM, Mario C. Aguiar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sat Tara S. Khalsa wrote:
Eric,
These clearances should be self-adjusting. The only way there should be
appreciable difference is if a piston seal is binding, holding the piston
away from the pad.
Sat
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Am I missing something?
best,
Sat Tara
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The shiming is done to the caliper not the pads .
Look at the piston travel and see if they are all going in and out the same
amount . If not correct it first . Then measure using a feeler gage set between
the piston pad backing plate . If they are not equall shim
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Re: BrakesSat Tara,
No .. I don't think you are missin
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TC
No war here . The pistons on a caliper will retract at the same amount
if all is well . If the caliper is not centered on the rotor it will
cause the master cyl piston to travel further
to obtain braking force . This is something I learned over 20 yrs ago in
a situation
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on 10/24/00 8:40 AM, Eric Harnish at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The shiming is done to the caliper not the pads .
Whew. Now I feel better.
best,
Sat Tara
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I'm with TC on this one.
There are four pistons (two sets of opossed pistons) on our original
calipers,
just the
300mm full floaters and gold 4 piston calipers from Brembo. It comes as
a kit complete with all bolts, brackets, new braided lines. Just get the
junk off and feel what its like to have serious stopping power. When you
open the box it looks too pretty to put on, you just want to look at it!
Don
Steve Hall wrote:
Here is one for the scientist... With scientific facts!
What is the best aftermarket brake combo. for an early V-Max?
Suggestions please. Exspecially, from John and Don!!
Keep up the search for more V-Max power
If I had to choose aftermarket, I will go
Retail, 1,200.00. I got mine thru a friend at 50.00 over his cost. Ended
up around 1,000.00. Some will grip about the cost, don't! Your getting
what you pay for.
Don "Old Man" Smith
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INS, open the door.
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Do the 93 up brakes work much better? than stock.
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Stock = 92 and back!
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Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:53 PM
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Do the 93 up brakes work muc
to interchange the early and late front calipers without adapters,
(without regard to the rotor size etc).
campbell
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Do the
93 and later are better that the 85-92, but they're nowhere near the
Brembos. If you bought the rotors alone their 500.00 a set. Figure the
liens are 100.00. Then you have to pay someone to make the brackets.
When you add it up, its not as bad as it seems. Your getting a quality
package ready to
I thought about this and I believe the tubes are a different size.41mm to 92
43 after. So I will need the complete front end
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Bradford,
Yes .. I know .. sorry .. that was what I was implying .. change the
front end .. There seem to be a lot of them laying around these days.
campbell - #95
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I thought about this and I believe
If these calipers have larger pistons you may need the correct master cyl.
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"Sat Tara S. Khalsa" wrote:
Eric,
These clearances should be self-adjusting. The only way there should
be
appreciable difference is if a piston seal is binding, holding the
piston
away from the pad.
Sat Tara,
Don't forget we're talking about a set of calipers that have been ADAPTED
to work
I checked them and all are the same. I went through the calipers before
hand since I use DOT 5 and cleaned them all up and re lubed. They are off a
2000 R-1 and were in excellent shape anyway.
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Thomas and Carrie Powell
1994 NOS injected
R1 brake system should bolt right on your bike aloha Tony p
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In a message dated 04/01/2000 1:49:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
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I remember awhile back when we all went through "which brake pads I use and
why" but can not find it in the archives, it may have been before Paul
started it. Since I am ready now would you all mind
Thomas, I recently installed new front and rear pads. I used EBC FA-160
HH
pads on the front and EBC FA-88 Kevlar on the rear.
This was based on advice from several VMOA members in the last 6 months.
The HH fronts are sintered material but don't increase disc wear. They
are extremely effective
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