[vchkpw] warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later
Hi there! After recompiling all the packages I solved my OpenEFilter problem, but yesterday at exactly 9 pm a new error came up, although I was far, far away from my PC :-) For every mail that should be received/sent I get a warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later. Right now I'm a step ahead(?) and can send mails from the prompt, but when I try to send a msg with telnet or evolution, I get mail server temporarily rejected message. pop3/imap works fine. Thanks for your help Bernd
[vchkpw] courier-imap
Hi. I don't know if this has been addressed before, but I couldn't find anything related using google searches. I use latest vpopmail+courier-imap and the pop-before-smtp method. This has worked great during the past four or so years. The problem I'm experiencing is that the relay file seems only to be updated at one time when starting up the imap client and checking mail for the first time, I'm using kmail. In order to successfully send mail after the --enable-relay-clear-minutes period has expired I have to restart kmail. This is annoying and has been the case for a very long time now. Now I'm sick of it and need a resolution. So please advise what to do. Thanks in advance. -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [vchkpw] warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later
Hi, I´ve had some problems with QMail showing this message trouble injecting bounce message on qmail´s log too. I´ve took a long time to discover what did I do wrong, and after googling and asking some friends I´ve realized that my qmail-scanner instalation was completely wrong. All related with qmail-queue binary. Try to see if your qmail-queue binary is the right one.. Good Luck, Eduardo R. da Silva - Original Message - From: Bernd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:27 AM Subject: [vchkpw] warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later Hi there! After recompiling all the packages I solved my OpenEFilter problem, but yesterday at exactly 9 pm a new error came up, although I was far, far away from my PC :-) For every mail that should be received/sent I get a warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later. Right now I'm a step ahead(?) and can send mails from the prompt, but when I try to send a msg with telnet or evolution, I get mail server temporarily rejected message. pop3/imap works fine. Thanks for your help Bernd
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail domain folder
Thanks a lot Jeremy! I didn't know about directory hashing! Now I understand it a bit :) By the way, I'm using ext2 and I'm sure I won't use more than 600 files in a directory. I know I can have problems, but I'll try not hashing :) Do you know the hashing limit of ext2? (But this is not the mainly question yet and I know this is not part of you, but who knows you can tell me :) ) So, I recompile vpopmail with the --disable-users-big-dir flag and I think that for new domains it will work out nice. But for my existing domains, it doesn't work yet. I thinks there's something related to .dir-control file. I realize that the first line from its must be the number of files (folders) of a domain. The rest I can't figure out! Is there something related to .dir-control file? If so, can you explain me that file line per line? Or is there another solution to making my old domains work with that flag now? Anyway, thanks a lot! You're great! :) --- Jeremy Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Thursday 02 December 2004 01:08 pm, Gilcio Grella wrote: [snip: vpopmail hashes user directories after a certain number] Is that normal? I don't want that number folder inside my domain! I want always my users maildir in domain.com/ to be better managed. And always doing manual editing sucks a lot! vpopmail does directory hashing because some filesystems (ext2/3, UFS without DIR_HASH, etc) will slow to a crawl with large directories (the general rule of thumb is about 1000 files in a directory is the breaking point) You can disable this when building vpopmail by configuring it with the --disable-users-big-dir flag. Is this causing you any problems? If not, then you should leave it how it is for performance reasons. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ www.inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature = Gilcio Grella :: Hackiller :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rede IRCBrasil :: Server Admin :: irc.bwnet.com.br ICQ :: 55766844 :: MSN Messenger :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Yahoo! Mail - Agora com 250MB de espaço gratuito. Abra uma conta agora! http://br.info.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [vchkpw] warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later
First thing to do is to check how much memory you've allocated smtp with tcpserver. Give it more and see if that helps. Try with around 40M per session. Virus scanning uses ram. Especially with large attachemnts it chews up memory. - Original Message - From: Bernd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:27 AM Subject: [vchkpw] warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later Hi there! After recompiling all the packages I solved my OpenEFilter problem, but yesterday at exactly 9 pm a new error came up, although I was far, far away from my PC :-) For every mail that should be received/sent I get a warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later. Right now I'm a step ahead(?) and can send mails from the prompt, but when I try to send a msg with telnet or evolution, I get mail server temporarily rejected message. pop3/imap works fine. Thanks for your help Bernd
Re: [vchkpw] warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later
Hi Eduardo! Thanks for your mail. I already tried the same at morning and after replacing my qmail-queue with the default qmail-queue I moved from the trouble injecting bounce message, will try later to mail server temporarily rejected message. So also in my case it had to do something with qmail-queue but it's still not really working. Thanks, Bernd On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 12:14, Eduardo Ribeiro da Silva wrote: Hi, I´ve had some problems with QMail showing this message trouble injecting bounce message on qmail´s log too. I´ve took a long time to discover what did I do wrong, and after googling and asking some friends I´ve realized that my qmail-scanner instalation was completely wrong. All related with qmail-queue binary. Try to see if your qmail-queue binary is the right one.. Good Luck, Eduardo R. da Silva - Original Message - From: Bernd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:27 AM Subject: [vchkpw] warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later Hi there! After recompiling all the packages I solved my OpenEFilter problem, but yesterday at exactly 9 pm a new error came up, although I was far, far away from my PC :-) For every mail that should be received/sent I get a warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later. Right now I'm a step ahead(?) and can send mails from the prompt, but when I try to send a msg with telnet or evolution, I get mail server temporarily rejected message. pop3/imap works fine. Thanks for your help Bernd
Re: [vchkpw] vpopmail domain folder
On Friday 03 December 2004 05:22 am, Gilcio Grella wrote: Thanks a lot Jeremy! I didn't know about directory hashing! Now I understand it a bit :) good :) qmail does the same thing with its queue, only it's a little bit different. By the way, I'm using ext2 and I'm sure I won't use more than 600 files in a directory. I know I can have problems, but I'll try not hashing :) Do you know the hashing limit of ext2? (But this is not the mainly question yet and I know this is not part of you, but who knows you can tell me :) ) as stated in my previous email, rule of thumb is 1000. So, I recompile vpopmail with the --disable-users-big-dir flag and I think that for new domains it will work out nice. But for my existing domains, it doesn't work yet. I thinks there's something related to .dir-control file. simply remove it. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ www.inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpKusZSzp916.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] warning: trouble injecting bounce message, will try later
On Friday 03 December 2004 05:55 am, Clayton Milos wrote: First thing to do is to check how much memory you've allocated smtp with tcpserver. that has nothing to do with qmail-send. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ www.inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpjHJXbwAO6t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] courier-imap
On Friday 03 December 2004 05:05 am, Oden Eriksson wrote: Hi. I don't know if this has been addressed before, but I couldn't find anything related using google searches. I use latest vpopmail+courier-imap and the pop-before-smtp method. This has worked great during the past four or so years. The problem I'm experiencing is that the relay file seems only to be updated at one time when starting up the imap client and checking mail for the first time, I'm using kmail. In order to successfully send mail after the --enable-relay-clear-minutes period has expired I have to restart kmail. This is annoying and has been the case for a very long time now. Now I'm sick of it and need a resolution. So please advise what to do. Use smtp auth. This is not a problem with kmail, courier-imap, or roaming users. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ www.inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp6djg52ezln.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] courier-imap
On Friday 03 December 2004 09:39 am, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: On Friday 03 December 2004 05:05 am, Oden Eriksson wrote: Hi. I don't know if this has been addressed before, but I couldn't find anything related using google searches. I use latest vpopmail+courier-imap and the pop-before-smtp method. This has worked great during the past four or so years. The problem I'm experiencing is that the relay file seems only to be updated at one time when starting up the imap client and checking mail for the first time, I'm using kmail. In order to successfully send mail after the --enable-relay-clear-minutes period has expired I have to restart kmail. This is annoying and has been the case for a very long time now. Now I'm sick of it and need a resolution. So please advise what to do. Use smtp auth. This is not a problem with kmail, courier-imap, or roaming users. oh and to add. even if you do restart kmail, that doesn't necessarily mean it restarts the kio_slave for your imap connection, therefore you may have to log completely out :) Simple fix: use smtp auth. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ www.inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpvUqvN6qgTf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] courier-imap
Friday 03 December 2004 18.10 skrev Jeremy Kitchen: On Friday 03 December 2004 09:39 am, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: On Friday 03 December 2004 05:05 am, Oden Eriksson wrote: Hi. I don't know if this has been addressed before, but I couldn't find anything related using google searches. I use latest vpopmail+courier-imap and the pop-before-smtp method. This has worked great during the past four or so years. The problem I'm experiencing is that the relay file seems only to be updated at one time when starting up the imap client and checking mail for the first time, I'm using kmail. In order to successfully send mail after the --enable-relay-clear-minutes period has expired I have to restart kmail. This is annoying and has been the case for a very long time now. Now I'm sick of it and need a resolution. So please advise what to do. Use smtp auth. This is not a problem with kmail, courier-imap, or roaming users. oh and to add. even if you do restart kmail, that doesn't necessarily mean it restarts the kio_slave for your imap connection, therefore you may have to log completely out :) Simple fix: use smtp auth. -Jeremy Thanks Jeremy, but smtp auth isn't the answer I was looking for. I know mr. sam and some other profilic people in this sphere thinks pop-before-smtp is dead, is silly and obsolete, but I can say it isn't. The question still, is how to make this work, not to make me start using smtp auth. If was really smart I would stop using an utterly dead (not developed since 1998), and unsupported software like qmail is and use _any_ of the others that is still alive, supported, developed and in much wider use. I bet that's not something you wanted to hear... -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [vchkpw] courier-imap
On Friday 03 December 2004 01:42 pm, Oden Eriksson wrote: Thanks Jeremy, but smtp auth isn't the answer I was looking for. I know mr. sam and some other profilic people in this sphere thinks pop-before-smtp is dead, is silly and obsolete, but I can say it isn't. The question still, is how to make this work, not to make me start using smtp auth. It won't. You'd have to write a lot of code to make it so that it would occasionally place your information back into whatever pop-before-smtp implementation you're using. If was really smart I would stop using an utterly dead (not developed since 1998), and unsupported software like qmail is and use _any_ of the others that is still alive, supported, developed and in much wider use. I bet that's not something you wanted to hear... So you're blaming qmail for this 'problem'? That makes me laugh. Please get a clue before you start throwing blame. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ www.inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpEa83JlZgpA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] courier-imap
On Dec 3, 2004, at 11:42 AM, Oden Eriksson wrote: The question still, is how to make this work, not to make me start using smtp auth. It sounds like (from Jeremey's email) that kmail leaves its IMAP connection open at all times and that's the problem. One solutions would be to patch Courier-IMAP to update the timestamp for the connection every 15 minutes it was still open. Is it possible to configure kmail to not keep a persistent IMAP connection? Can you add a bogus POP account to kmail so it's popping into the server every 15 minutes? -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ Info on the Sniffter hand-held Network Tester: http://sniffter.com/
Re: [vchkpw] courier-imap
On Dec 3, 2004, at 2:42 PM, Oden Eriksson wrote: Thanks Jeremy, but smtp auth isn't the answer I was looking for. I know mr. sam and some other profilic people in this sphere thinks pop-before-smtp is dead, is silly and obsolete, but I can say it isn't. The question still, is how to make this work, not to make me start using smtp auth. If was really smart I would stop using an utterly dead (not developed since 1998), and unsupported software like qmail is and use _any_ of the others that is still alive, supported, developed and in much wider use. I bet that's not something you wanted to hear... -- Regards // Oden Eriksson Ohhh, that is music to my ears. Hell, switch to postfix, but please don't come crawling back when you have to use smtp auth as they offer not alternative, or make it hard to use an alternative. Or switch to exim, where smtp auth is almost a necessity, unless off course you can add your IP to the allowed to relay, in which case you need to find out how to do that with vpopmail's relay mechanism and not worry about popping in before sending mail. Say, should I recommend sendmail as well? :P. X-Istence
Re: [vchkpw] vdelivermail, user quotas and the maildirsize file
[intentionaly top posted] You are my new hero Mr. Collins. If you are in or near central Indiana, my wife makes apple pie and vegetable soup that grown men will crawl through broken glass for, there are a few servings waiting for you. Can't wait to give it a try. DAve Tom Collins wrote: I've undertaken the task of cleaning up vdelivermail. I think I've fixed some problems where vdelivermail could exit without closing its connection to MySQL. I've also fixed sections that exited with the wrong exit code (causing qmail-local to assume mail was delivered when it wasn't, or vice-versa). I'm now digging into quotas. Oh, the joy. I found one immediate problem. vdelivermail was adding an email's size to the maildirsize file before it was successfully delivered. If there was any sort of error, the maildirsize file would end up out of whack. Additionally, the size of the extra headers (Return-Path and Delivered-To) weren't included in the values written. This causes a problem because POP/IMAP will enter a negative value for the size of the entire message (including those headers). I could be wrong on that -- the POP/IMAP server might use the S= part of the filename which was also written incorrectly by the old vdelivermail. Anyway, I've made some good progress, and now it only updates maildirsize if the message was successfully written. It will update the maildirsize of ANY Maildir that it delivers to, including valiases, the catchall, and save-a-copy on .qmail files that forward to another location. The only missing piece is actually checking for overquota situations on anything but a standard user without a .qmail file. I also don't handle the situation where the maildirsize file does not exist. Realistically, I can only re-create it for the Maildir that belongs to the current user. Other than reading the maildirsize file, there's no easy way to look up a quota based on a Maildir directory path. After all of the time I've put into it, there's no way I'm going to touch domain quotas... If anyone knows of any other vdelivermail oddities that should be fixed, please let me know and I'll try to address them in this upcoming release. -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ Info on the *Sniffter* hand-held Network Tester: http://sniffter.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 -- Systems Administrator http://www.tls.net Get rid of Unwanted Emails...get TLS Spam Blocker!
RE: [vchkpw] vdelivermail, user quotas and the maildirsize file
Title: Message does this change take into account the ablity for multi processing on the maildirsize and 2 vdeliverers attempting to add to the mailbox at near simultaneous time... think multiple mailservers with a nfs connection to the maildirectories... ie at this time if i accept a mail its added to quota.. then while im writing my mail in a second vdeliver needs to write, looksin quota, reports over,and we bounce.. under the new structure.. will this occur or will BOTH files get written into the mail directory... -Original Message-From: Tom Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I found one immediate problem. vdelivermail was adding an email's size to the maildirsize file before it was successfully delivered. If there was any sort of error, the maildirsize file would end up out of whack.
Re: [vchkpw] vdelivermail, user quotas and the maildirsize file
On Dec 3, 2004, at 3:01 PM, shadowplay.net wrote: does this change take into account the ablity for multi processing on the maildirsize and 2 vdeliverers attempting to add to the mailbox at near simultaneous time... think multiple mailservers with a nfs connection to the maildirectories... ie at this time if i accept a mail its added to quota.. then while im writing my mail in a second vdeliver needs to write, looks in quota, reports over, and we bounce.. under the new structure.. will this occur or will BOTH files get written into the mail directory... I don't know. I've only started to look into the mail quota code. I may pull fresh code from the most recent Courier-IMAP (original source of most of the code) and make sure that I spend as little time with the file open as necessary. I think that vdelivermail will open it for exclusive write access and then append the new size. I have no idea how it will behave if multiple processes want to append to it at the same time. It may be difficult, but I guess I could write a shell script that attempts to deliver two very large emails simultaneously. I could also add an artificial delay in vdelivermail so it keeps the file open longer than necessary in order to force one process to wait for write access. -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ Info on the Sniffter hand-held Network Tester: http://sniffter.com/
