[vchkpw] quotawarn file in users maildir
Hello! I have installed vpopmail 5.4.33 and I plan to use quotas with vusaged. After some research I found that the quota warning messages are sent once in 24 hours (except the Maildir/quotawarn file is deleted manually). Therefor, the owner of the mailbox gets a warning mail, remove some mails within the 24 hours and did not recognize if the mailbox is over quota until the 24 hours are over. Even worse, he will think that he has solved the problem while new mails are bouncing. In my opinion it would be better if vpopmail removes the quotawarn file if the user is below the quota warning threshold. Vpopmail anyway hast to query if the mailbox is over quota on new mails so why not delete an existing quotawarn file if the mailbox is below the threshold? Best regards, Hartmut !DSPAM:4dca5bbf32711017712204!
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn file in users maildir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/2011 04:49 AM, Hartmut Wernisch | Domaintechnik.at wrote: Hello! I have installed vpopmail 5.4.33 and I plan to use quotas with vusaged. After some research I found that the quota warning messages are sent once in 24 hours (except the Maildir/quotawarn file is deleted manually). Therefor, the owner of the mailbox gets a warning mail, remove some mails within the 24 hours and did not recognize if the mailbox is over quota until the 24 hours are over. Even worse, he will think that he has solved the problem while new mails are bouncing. In my opinion it would be better if vpopmail removes the quotawarn file if the user is below the quota warning threshold. Vpopmail anyway hast to query if the mailbox is over quota on new mails so why not delete an existing quotawarn file if the mailbox is below the threshold? It is done this way because quota usage percentages can easily stay the same by regular usage. A user gets some mail, deletes some mail. The usage percentage won't change much. If you set a threshold at which the quota warning is sent, and the user's regular usage keeps hitting above and below this area, the user will receive many warnings. What you really mean to do is adjust how often the user can receive a warning. You can find this hardcoded setting in vdelivermail.c around line 1150 in the deliver_quota_warning function. - -- /* Matt Brookings m...@inter7.com GnuPG Key FAE0672C Software developer Systems technician Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. (815)776-9465 */ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3KqnkACgkQIwet2/rgZyx1GACfVg9R8OzDWl507hWN9pIEgVdB eLwAnAknNp5/CkkewgviYd66Vsb57t30 =MFpE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn not always working
At 05:58 PM 6/28/2006, Charles Sprickman wrote: Anyone else see this? Any appropriate fixes in vdelivermail dealing with quota warnings since 5.4.10? I noticed vdelivermail does have a few printfs with error messages, but I'm not seeing anything in the mail logs regarding this user or quotas or errros in general... Ideas? i've found that occasionally the 'maildirsize' file will misbehave - somehow getting confused info written into it. deleting it often cleared the problem. Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com http://www.smileglobal.com http://www.forumgarden.com
[vchkpw] quotawarn not always working
Hi all, I have a user that came complaining (he's actually a lawyer and has sent four snail-mail, certified letters... ugh) that he's not being notified when going over quota. So I grabbed a test account in the same domain and sent email to that account until the usage went above 90%. Everything worked as expected - quotawarn file was created, warning email delivered, and it worked both with maildrop (used for spam/virus scanning here) and vdelivermail as the final delivery agent. I figured it might be PEBKAC, but the user still complained, so we got permission to test on his live account. And he's right... No matter what I do, the warning message never gets delivered and no quotawarn file is created. He has no filtering, so he's got direct vdelivermail delivery. Looking in the db, other than his username, password and directory, he's exactly the same as my test user. This is vpopmail 5.4.10, haven't gotten around to looking at all the release notes on newer versions yet for gotchas. Anyone else see this? Any appropriate fixes in vdelivermail dealing with quota warnings since 5.4.10? I noticed vdelivermail does have a few printfs with error messages, but I'm not seeing anything in the mail logs regarding this user or quotas or errros in general... Ideas? Thanks, Charles
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn not always working
- Original Message - From: Charles Sprickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I have a user that came complaining (he's actually a lawyer and has sent four snail-mail, certified letters... ugh) that he's not being notified when going over quota. So I grabbed a test account in the same domain and sent email to that account until the usage went above 90%. Everything worked as expected - quotawarn file was created, warning email delivered, and it worked both with maildrop (used for spam/virus scanning here) and vdelivermail as the final delivery agent. Is vuserinfo reporting accurate values for this quota and usage amounts ? Do the permissions on his dir look same as the permissions on your test account dir ? You could probably test sending a message like this EXT=someuser HOST=somedomain.com strace vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox PASTE TEST MSG HERE CTRL-D That might show up whats going on with regards to access to the quota related files Michael.
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn not always working
On Jun 28, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote: This is vpopmail 5.4.10, haven't gotten around to looking at all the release notes on newer versions yet for gotchas. vdelivermail was rewritten for 5.4.11 (or so). 5.4.16 is a pretty good release, I have a few patches to put into 5.4.17, but nothing serious enough to keep you from trying 5.4.16. -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vpopmail - virtual domains for qmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ QmailAdmin - web interface for Vpopmail: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn question
Tom Collins wrote: On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Juan Enciso Condeña wrote: But also I have noticed that this file not delete as soon as the quota has diminished, which brings like consequence that when it is arrived again at the quota limit, no alert quota is sent again. Is it a bug or what should I do? It's not a bug. Only one warning is sent every 24 hours. The file needs to stay there so that a user who's close to their quota doesn't get repeated warnings every time the delete mail and have more arrive. actually considering it NEVER removes the quotawarn from the user, I would personally consider it a bug. And a rather annoying one considering I have to go manually remove it else they get the warning even after emptying their box. -Greg
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn question
On Mar 24, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Greg Swift wrote: It's not a bug. Only one warning is sent every 24 hours. The file needs to stay there so that a user who's close to their quota doesn't get repeated warnings every time the delete mail and have more arrive. actually considering it NEVER removes the quotawarn from the user, I would personally consider it a bug. And a rather annoying one considering I have to go manually remove it else they get the warning even after emptying their box. The quotawarn file is a 0-byte file stored in the user's directory and is only used to determine the last time an actual warning was sent. I'm not sure I understand why that is a problem. If the file is over 24 hours old, removing it will have no effect on the behavior of vdelivermail. If it's less than 24 hours old, the user will get another warning the next time their box goes over 90% full. If you wanted to, you could add a cron job on your system to find quotawarn files older than 24 hours and delete them, but I don't think there's a need to do so. -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ You don't need a laptop to troubleshoot high-speed Internet: sniffter.com
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn question
Tom Collins wrote: On Mar 24, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Greg Swift wrote: It's not a bug. Only one warning is sent every 24 hours. The file needs to stay there so that a user who's close to their quota doesn't get repeated warnings every time the delete mail and have more arrive. actually considering it NEVER removes the quotawarn from the user, I would personally consider it a bug. And a rather annoying one considering I have to go manually remove it else they get the warning even after emptying their box. The quotawarn file is a 0-byte file stored in the user's directory and is only used to determine the last time an actual warning was sent. I'm not sure I understand why that is a problem. If the file is over 24 hours old, removing it will have no effect on the behavior of vdelivermail. If it's less than 24 hours old, the user will get another warning the next time their box goes over 90% full. If you wanted to, you could add a cron job on your system to find quotawarn files older than 24 hours and delete them, but I don't think there's a need to do so. Welll.. then it is buggy, because even if their mailbox is not at quota, guess what? they still get the message! This bug was reported to the list months ago (back around sept/oct). If it actually worked the way you are specifying, I wouldn't be complaining, but the has been a repeatable occurance, and the fix is to delete the quoatawarn file. -Greg -Greg
[vchkpw] quotawarn question
Hi vpopmail users I'm using qmail + vpopmail-5.4.9 + sqwebmail-4.0.7 Recently, I enabled the warning quota message. I create the file .quotawarn.msg into domain directory, and it work. But I noticed that when reach the percent limit, the vpopmail create the file named quotawarn into user directory. For example: ~vopmail/domains/domain.com/user/Maildir/quotawarn But also I have noticed that this file not delete as soon as the quota has diminished, which brings like consequence that when it is arrived again at the quota limit, no alert quota is sent again. Is it a bug or what should I do? Thanks for your reply.
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn question
On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Juan Enciso Condeña wrote: Recently, I enabled the warning quota message. I create the file .quotawarn.msg into domain directory, and it work. But I noticed that when reach the percent limit, the vpopmail create the file named quotawarn into user directory. For example: ~vopmail/domains/domain.com/user/Maildir/quotawarn But also I have noticed that this file not delete as soon as the quota has diminished, which brings like consequence that when it is arrived again at the quota limit, no alert quota is sent again. Is it a bug or what should I do? It's not a bug. Only one warning is sent every 24 hours. The file needs to stay there so that a user who's close to their quota doesn't get repeated warnings every time the delete mail and have more arrive. -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ You don't need a laptop to troubleshoot high-speed Internet: sniffter.com
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn....
shadowplay.net schrieb: has neone else had this issue? once again the issue is no removal of quotawarn messages I have the same 'problem' Werner
Re: [vchkpw] quotawarn....
shadowplay.net wrote: has neone else had this issue? once again the issue is no removal of quotawarn messages Yes I have had this issue, and stopped quotawarn messages as a solution. The bigger issue for us was getting the maildirsize file to properly update sometimes. Currently we just go through and delete them all and rerun vuserinfo which replaces the file. Everything has been fine once this was done. I've never brought it to the list becasue I thought is was becasue we moved maildirs from a machine with maildirs and installed them on amchine with maildir++ after we installed courier. DAve
RE: [vchkpw] quotawarn....
hey all... I have been tracking a few issues that are slightly anoying and causing me great concern when running vpopmail on a production site. vpopmail 5.4.5 (I know 5.4.6 is more current however ... the sql injection is the least of my wories at this time!) netqmail-1.0.5 Maildir++ patches applied. qmail-pop3d mysql clean builds and all applicable patches applied. we are using Maildir as the delivery method of choice. issue one... clearing a quotawarn message. the systems fail to clear a quotawarn message for users who pop in and remove mail (once they are over quota). in addition there does not appear to be a method to force a recalculation of the maildirsize without deleting it entirly. the 15min expirey and recalculation of maildir does not appear to be occuring or if it is it fails to remove the quotawarn message. below is a maildirsize for an account in question... original maildirsize file 20971520S,1000C 20972344172 -16375287 -135 -3200873-3 -1396184-34 42348 1 -42348 -1 24151 18571 -4272 -2 18331 -1833 -1 56575 1 -56575 -1 25111 -2511 -1 24091 -2409 -1 18011 16121 -1801 -1 -1612 -1 16661 -1666 -1 11160 1 -11160 -1 55791 778 1 -6357 -2 12152 1 -12152 -1 25231 275814 1 69601 -285297 -3 52781 1880379 1 43591 39684 1 -1929700-4 301056 1 -301056 -1 780 1 10543 1 307468 1 -318791 -3 18231 -1823 -1 40581 -4058 -1 51644 1 51649 1 51648 1 51647 1 51646 1 51647 1 51643 1 51644 1 -51644 -1 -103297 -2 -154940 -3 -51643 -1 -51644 -1 1620451 1 -1620451-1 45781 95931 -14171 -2 18201 59651 56171 -1820 -1 -5965 -1 -5617 -1 19781 -1978 -1 19991 37071 37231 -1999 -1 -7430 -2 31261 -3126 -1 31371 -3137 -1 41311 -4131 -1 44671 -4467 -1 38771 -3877 -1 20221 -2022 -1 18730 1 -18730 -1 34341 1 33811 793 1 -37722 -2 -793-1 11952 1 -11952 -1 26771 -2677 -1 86911 -8691 -1 90461 -9046 -1 12023 1 -12023 -1 17741 -1774 -1 53091 32911 -5309 -1 -3291 -1 71411 27421 -7141 -1 -2742 -1 10827 1 -10827 -1 11441 -1144 -1 67711 -6771 -1 13935 1 -13935 -1 42068 1 -42068 -1 922079 1 20992 1 73091 54511 55341 789 1 20541 1 503616 1 556989 1 556991 1 787 1 354195 1 783 1 46471 57891 713230 1 69955 1 20871 2356089 1 38871 80781 58131 14341 -6127065-23 44631 794 1 -5257 -2 807946 1 -807946 -1 43801 -4380 -1 93591 -9359 -1 69181 -6918 -1 94971 -9497 -1 21651 19001 -4065 -2 11176 1 -11176 -1 33451 69778 1 -73123 -2 29651 -2965 -1 31321 -3132 -1 40951 -4095 -1 780 1 75901 16681 52681 114303 1 44809 1 96211 96261 -193665 -8 39645 1 -39645 -1 56949 1 -56949 -1 11441 -1144 -1 16201 -1620 -1 98955 1 -98955 -1 29801 -2980 -1 reported 0% usage of quota... (ps it all added up correctly) in attempting to debug this issue... maildirsize was deleted from the users account to cause maildirsize to be recalculated... after 7 messages results were 20971520S,1000C 0 0 971 1 -971 -1 778 1 -778 -1 3691 1 -3691 -1 4403 1 -4403 -1 3987 1 -3987 -1 6211 1 -6211 -1 2329 1 -2329 -1 this was looking good however [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maildir]# ls -la total 32 drwx--5 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 19 17:26 . drwx--3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Jul 22 08:08 .. drwx--2 vpopmail vchkpw 8192 Aug 4 21:48 cur -rw---1 vpopmail vchkpw128 Aug 20 09:11 maildirsize drwx--2 vpopmail vchkpw 8192 Aug 20 09:11 new -rw---1 vpopmail vchkpw 0 Aug 3 21:50 quotawarn drwx--2 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 20 09:10 tmp note the quotawarn message ... set Aug 3 that was not removed... any thoughts? thank you for your time kenneth gf brown -- Hello Kenneth, I'm absolutely NO expert but I found the next solution to your problem in my quest to solve other problems: On: http://www.pipeline.com.au/staff/mbowe/isp/vpopmail-mysql.htm
[vchkpw] quotawarn....
hey all... I have been tracking a few issues that are slightly anoying and causing me great concern when running vpopmail on a production site. vpopmail 5.4.5 (I know 5.4.6 is more current however ... the sql injection is the least of my wories at this time!) netqmail-1.0.5 Maildir++ patches applied. qmail-pop3d mysql clean builds and all applicable patches applied. we are using Maildir as the delivery method of choice. issue one... clearing a quotawarn message. the systems fail to clear a quotawarn message for users who pop in and remove mail (once they are over quota). in addition there does not appear to be a method to force a recalculation of the maildirsize without deleting it entirly. the 15min expirey and recalculation of maildir does not appear to be occuring or if it is it fails to remove the quotawarn message. below is a maildirsize for an account in question... original maildirsize file 20971520S,1000C 20972344172 -16375287 -135 -3200873-3 -1396184-34 42348 1 -42348 -1 24151 18571 -4272 -2 18331 -1833 -1 56575 1 -56575 -1 25111 -2511 -1 24091 -2409 -1 18011 16121 -1801 -1 -1612 -1 16661 -1666 -1 11160 1 -11160 -1 55791 778 1 -6357 -2 12152 1 -12152 -1 25231 275814 1 69601 -285297 -3 52781 1880379 1 43591 39684 1 -1929700-4 301056 1 -301056 -1 780 1 10543 1 307468 1 -318791 -3 18231 -1823 -1 40581 -4058 -1 51644 1 51649 1 51648 1 51647 1 51646 1 51647 1 51643 1 51644 1 -51644 -1 -103297 -2 -154940 -3 -51643 -1 -51644 -1 1620451 1 -1620451-1 45781 95931 -14171 -2 18201 59651 56171 -1820 -1 -5965 -1 -5617 -1 19781 -1978 -1 19991 37071 37231 -1999 -1 -7430 -2 31261 -3126 -1 31371 -3137 -1 41311 -4131 -1 44671 -4467 -1 38771 -3877 -1 20221 -2022 -1 18730 1 -18730 -1 34341 1 33811 793 1 -37722 -2 -793-1 11952 1 -11952 -1 26771 -2677 -1 86911 -8691 -1 90461 -9046 -1 12023 1 -12023 -1 17741 -1774 -1 53091 32911 -5309 -1 -3291 -1 71411 27421 -7141 -1 -2742 -1 10827 1 -10827 -1 11441 -1144 -1 67711 -6771 -1 13935 1 -13935 -1 42068 1 -42068 -1 922079 1 20992 1 73091 54511 55341 789 1 20541 1 503616 1 556989 1 556991 1 787 1 354195 1 783 1 46471 57891 713230 1 69955 1 20871 2356089 1 38871 80781 58131 14341 -6127065-23 44631 794 1 -5257 -2 807946 1 -807946 -1 43801 -4380 -1 93591 -9359 -1 69181 -6918 -1 94971 -9497 -1 21651 19001 -4065 -2 11176 1 -11176 -1 33451 69778 1 -73123 -2 29651 -2965 -1 31321 -3132 -1 40951 -4095 -1 780 1 75901 16681 52681 114303 1 44809 1 96211 96261 -193665 -8 39645 1 -39645 -1 56949 1 -56949 -1 11441 -1144 -1 16201 -1620 -1 98955 1 -98955 -1 29801 -2980 -1 reported 0% usage of quota... (ps it all added up correctly) in attempting to debug this issue... maildirsize was deleted from the users account to cause maildirsize to be recalculated... after 7 messages results were 20971520S,1000C 0 0 971 1 -971 -1 778 1 -778 -1 3691 1 -3691 -1 4403 1 -4403 -1 3987 1 -3987 -1 6211 1 -6211 -1 2329 1 -2329 -1 this was looking good however [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maildir]# ls -la total 32 drwx--5 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 19 17:26 . drwx--3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Jul 22 08:08 .. drwx--2 vpopmail vchkpw 8192 Aug 4 21:48 cur -rw---1 vpopmail vchkpw128 Aug 20 09:11 maildirsize drwx--2 vpopmail vchkpw 8192 Aug 20 09:11 new -rw---1 vpopmail vchkpw 0 Aug 3 21:50 quotawarn drwx--2 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 20 09:10 tmp note the quotawarn message ... set Aug 3 that was not removed... any thoughts? thank you for your time kenneth gf brown
[vchkpw] quotawarn messages
Hi, I have customers they become a quotawarnmessage, but their boxes are empty. When i look in their box i can see a empty file quotawarn. It seems like that vpopmail not delete this file automaticly, thats a great prob. Any hints, someone? greets from austria Werner
[vchkpw] quotawarn file -- what does it do?
I have noticed that when a user gets a nearing-quota warning (from .quotawarn.msg), that a file called quotawarn is created in their maildir. However, when they go back in and delete all their messages, the quotawarn file remains there. Is this behavior correct? What purpose does this file serve? Does it ever get deleted again? Thanks, Moshe -- Moshe Jacobson http://runslinux.net AIM: Jehsom
