RE: Can't capture a Win XP image
Hi Josh,
I'm pretty sure we're running VCL 2.2.1
It's definitely not 2.3.
Adam
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From: Josh Thompson [mailto:josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 1:54 PM
To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Can't capture a Win XP image
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Adam,
What version of VCL is this?
Thanks,
Josh
On Monday, July 02, 2012 7:30:48 PM Hechler, Adam wrote:
Hi everyone,
Because of the problems I was having with repeatedly updating an image, I
decided to build one image (Windows XP) with all of the necessary
applications already installed BEFORE trying to capture it into the VCL.
It didn't take long before I received a Problem email. Can someone help
me troubleshoot this? We didn't have any troubles capturing Windows XP
images before.
Here's the error I get (more of the log below):
Can't locate object method execute via package
VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP at
/usr/local/vcl/bin/../lib/VCL/Module/Provisioning/VMware/vmware_cmd.p
m line
101.
Thanks,
Adam
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RECENT LOG ENTRIES FOR THIS PROCESS:
|8993|223:223|image| (-5) Module.pm, new (line: 207)
2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_datastructure(1190
)|create
d DataStructure object for VM host: vmwg0-120-62 2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_os_object(1232)|at
tempting
to load VM host OS module: VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP
2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_os_object(1238)|V
M host OS
module loaded: VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP 2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:create_mn_os_object(335)|man
agement
node OS object has already been created, address: 202b9670, returning 1
2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:new(196)|VCL::Module::OS::Win
dows::Ve
rsion_5::XP object created for image vmwarewinxp-WinXPFullBase75-v0,
address: 20b05c00 2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_os_object(1244)|V
M host OS
object created: VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP 2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|OS.pm:is_ssh_responding(401)|vmwg0-
120-62 is
responding to SSH, port 22: open, port 24: closed 2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:initialize(254)|OS on VM host
vmwg0-120-62 will be controlled using a
VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP OS object
|8993|223:223|image| WARNING
|8993|223:223|image| 2012-07-02
|14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|DataStructure.pm:_automethod(812)|corres
pondin
|g data has not been initialized for get_vmhost_computer_id:
|$self-request_data-
{reservation}{223}{computer}{vmhost}{computerid}
|8993|223:223|image| ( 0) DataStructure.pm, _automethod (line: 812)
|8993|223:223|image| (-1) Autoload.pm, __ANON__ (line: 80)
|8993|223:223|image| (-2) VMware.pm, get_vmhost_datastructure (line:
1161)
|8993|223:223|image| (-3) VMware.pm, get_vmhost_api_object (line:
1282)
|8993|223:223|image| (-4) VMware.pm, initialize (line: 265)
|8993|223:223|image| (-5) Module.pm, new (line: 207)
|8993|223:223|image| WARNING
|8993|223:223|image| 2012-07-02
|14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|DataStructure.pm:_automethod(812)|corres
pondin
|g data has not been initialized for get_vmhost_profile_image_id:
|$self-request_data-
{reservation}{223}{computer}{vmhost}{vmprofile}{image
|id} 8993|223:223|image| ( 0) DataStructure.pm, _automethod (line: 812)
|8993|223:223|image| (-1) Autoload.pm, __ANON__ (line: 80)
|8993|223:223|image| (-2) VMware.pm, get_vmhost_datastructure (line:
1162)
|8993|223:223|image| (-3) VMware.pm, get_vmhost_api_object (line:
1282)
|8993|223:223|image| (-4) VMware.pm, initialize (line: 265)
|8993|223:223|image| (-5) Module.pm, new (line: 207)
2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_datastructure(1190
)|create
d DataStructure object for VM host: vmwg0-120-62 2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_api_object(1293)|a
ttemptin
g to load VMware control module:
VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK 2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_api_object(1299)|l
oaded
VMware control module:
VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK
2012-07-02 14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:new(172)|set
'vmhost_data'
key for VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK object from
arguments 2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:new(172)|set
'vmhost_os' key for VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK
object
from arguments 2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:create_mn_os_object(335)|man
agement
node OS object has already been created, address: 202b9670, returning 1
2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:new(200)|VCL::Module::Provisio
ning::V
Mware::vSphere_SDK object created
Can't capture a Win XP image
Hi everyone,
Because of the problems I was having with repeatedly updating an image, I
decided to build one image (Windows XP) with all of the necessary applications
already installed BEFORE trying to capture it into the VCL.
It didn't take long before I received a Problem email. Can someone help me
troubleshoot this? We didn't have any troubles capturing Windows XP images
before.
Here's the error I get (more of the log below):
Can't locate object method execute via package
VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP at
/usr/local/vcl/bin/../lib/VCL/Module/Provisioning/VMware/vmware_cmd.pm line 101.
Thanks,
Adam
---
RECENT LOG ENTRIES FOR THIS PROCESS:
|8993|223:223|image| (-5) Module.pm, new (line: 207)
2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_datastructure(1190)|created
DataStructure object for VM host: vmwg0-120-62
2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_os_object(1232)|attempting to
load VM host OS module: VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP
2012-07-02 14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_os_object(1238)|VM
host OS module loaded: VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP
2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:create_mn_os_object(335)|management node
OS object has already been created, address: 202b9670, returning 1
2012-07-02
14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:new(196)|VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP
object created for image vmwarewinxp-WinXPFullBase75-v0, address: 20b05c00
2012-07-02 14:36:40|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_os_object(1244)|VM
host OS object created: VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP
2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|OS.pm:is_ssh_responding(401)|vmwg0-120-62 is
responding to SSH, port 22: open, port 24: closed
2012-07-02 14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:initialize(254)|OS on VM host
vmwg0-120-62 will be controlled using a VCL::Module::OS::Windows::Version_5::XP
OS object
|8993|223:223|image| WARNING
|8993|223:223|image| 2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|DataStructure.pm:_automethod(812)|corresponding
data has not been initialized for get_vmhost_computer_id:
$self-request_data-{reservation}{223}{computer}{vmhost}{computerid}
|8993|223:223|image| ( 0) DataStructure.pm, _automethod (line: 812)
|8993|223:223|image| (-1) Autoload.pm, __ANON__ (line: 80)
|8993|223:223|image| (-2) VMware.pm, get_vmhost_datastructure (line: 1161)
|8993|223:223|image| (-3) VMware.pm, get_vmhost_api_object (line: 1282)
|8993|223:223|image| (-4) VMware.pm, initialize (line: 265)
|8993|223:223|image| (-5) Module.pm, new (line: 207)
|8993|223:223|image| WARNING
|8993|223:223|image| 2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|DataStructure.pm:_automethod(812)|corresponding
data has not been initialized for get_vmhost_profile_image_id:
$self-request_data-{reservation}{223}{computer}{vmhost}{vmprofile}{imageid}
|8993|223:223|image| ( 0) DataStructure.pm, _automethod (line: 812)
|8993|223:223|image| (-1) Autoload.pm, __ANON__ (line: 80)
|8993|223:223|image| (-2) VMware.pm, get_vmhost_datastructure (line: 1162)
|8993|223:223|image| (-3) VMware.pm, get_vmhost_api_object (line: 1282)
|8993|223:223|image| (-4) VMware.pm, initialize (line: 265)
|8993|223:223|image| (-5) Module.pm, new (line: 207)
2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_datastructure(1190)|created
DataStructure object for VM host: vmwg0-120-62
2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_api_object(1293)|attempting to
load VMware control module: VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK
2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_api_object(1299)|loaded VMware
control module: VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK
2012-07-02 14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:new(172)|set 'vmhost_data' key
for VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK object from arguments
2012-07-02 14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:new(172)|set 'vmhost_os' key
for VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK object from arguments
2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:create_mn_os_object(335)|management node
OS object has already been created, address: 202b9670, returning 1
2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|Module.pm:new(200)|VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK
object created for computer vmwg0-120-62, address: 20b32390
2012-07-02 14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|vSphere_SDK.pm:initialize(1826)|vSphere
SDK for Perl does not appear to be installed on this managment node, unable to
load VMware vSphere SDK Perl modules
2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|VMware.pm:get_vmhost_api_object(1313)|API object
could not be created: VCL::Module::Provisioning::VMware::vSphere_SDK
|8993|223:223|image| WARNING
|8993|223:223|image| 2012-07-02
14:37:00|8993|223:223|image|DataStructure.pm:_automethod(812)|corresponding
data has not been initialized for get_vmhost_computer_id:
Deleting images and files
Hello all, I looked around a little bit but didn't see any documentation on how to delete images (and their associated files). Through all of my testing I've wound up creating quite a few images and I'd like to clean things up before continuing. What I have been able to do is this: In VCL: In Manage Computers I reloaded all of the computers that had one of the images I wanted to delete with a different image. I didn't see any method of just unloading the images from the computers. In Manage Images, I just selected the Delete button for those images I wanted to delete (I had tried this first but received the message that the selected resource was in use which is what led me to load different images in the Manage Computers screen). So now, when I got to VMWare Server, I no longer see the images there. If I look in our datastore, the physical files are still there and if I look in the database, I still see the images in the image table. I figured before I just physically delete the files, or delete records from the database, I better ask. Hoping for some guidance. Thanks, Adam Adam Hechler Senior Analyst /PC Systems Administrator Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 275 Windsor Street Hartford, CT 06120 USA Ph: 860-548-2446 Email: hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu Web: http://www.ewp.rpi.eduhttp://www.ewp.rpi.edu/
RE: Deleting images and files
Mike, So is it safe to just delete them? What about the records in the database? Can I delete the associated records in the image and imagerevision tables? Adam From: Mike Haudenschild [mailto:m...@longsight.com] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:28 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Deleting images and files Hi Adam, You're correct that VCL does not delete the original VMDK source image files. Regards, Mike -- Mike Haudenschild Education Systems Manager Longsight Group (740) 599-5005 x809 m...@longsight.commailto:m...@longsight.com www.longsight.comhttp://www.longsight.com On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Hechler, Adam hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu wrote: Hello all, I looked around a little bit but didn't see any documentation on how to delete images (and their associated files). Through all of my testing I've wound up creating quite a few images and I'd like to clean things up before continuing. What I have been able to do is this: In VCL: In Manage Computers I reloaded all of the computers that had one of the images I wanted to delete with a different image. I didn't see any method of just unloading the images from the computers. In Manage Images, I just selected the Delete button for those images I wanted to delete (I had tried this first but received the message that the selected resource was in use which is what led me to load different images in the Manage Computers screen). So now, when I got to VMWare Server, I no longer see the images there. If I look in our datastore, the physical files are still there and if I look in the database, I still see the images in the image table. I figured before I just physically delete the files, or delete records from the database, I better ask. Hoping for some guidance. Thanks, Adam Adam Hechler Senior Analyst /PC Systems Administrator Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 275 Windsor Street Hartford, CT 06120 USA Ph: 860-548-2446tel:860-548-2446 Email: hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu Web: http://www.ewp.rpi.eduhttp://www.ewp.rpi.edu/
RE: Not being able to reserve XP for updates
Thanks guys, I followed your suggestions. The image in question is in the Image Group named allVMimages. the Image Group allVMimages is mapped to a Computer Group All VM Computers all of our computers (we've allotted 48 of them) are in the Computer Group All VM Computers The Image in question uses these specs: 2048 RAM, 1 processor, 2000 processor speed, 100 network speed, and all of the computers we've allotted have: 4096 RAM, 1 processor, 2000 processor speed, 1000 network speed. Any other suggestions? As I said, we were able to replicate this with another image (same process to get to where we're stuck). It seems like once I End the reservation without making the image a production version, that's where we're dead. The first revision I did for the first image I just made changes, updated the image, and then went back in the next day and repeated all the steps to that point. (Manage Images - Create/Update an Image - Reservation RDP into Image (XP), update software, install new packages, etc. Back to Current Reservation - Create/Update Image - Update Existing Image) I hadn't done the step (during my first revision) where I make a new reservation and it winds up having me login to the Image with my local (VCL) userid. Adam From: Mike Haudenschild [mailto:m...@longsight.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:58 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Not being able to reserve XP for updates Yes, that's very important. Go to Manage Images -- Edit Image Profiles, and check the required specifications (RAM, processor) for that image. Then, as Dmitri notes, go to Manage Computers -- Edit Computer Information and confirm that at least one computer (in the group you're mapped to) has those specs. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov dcheb...@gmu.edumailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu wrote: Adam Also, can check if you have available computers (under Manage Computers) capable hosting the image? -- Thank you, Dmitri Chebotarov Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5 Phone: (703) 993-6175tel:%28703%29%20993-6175 Fax: (703) 993-3404tel:%28703%29%20993-3404 On Monday, June 11, 2012 at 14:47 , Mike Haudenschild wrote: Hi Adam, Check your image grouping and be sure that whatever image you're attempting to reserve/update is in a group that has access to one or more computers. - Manage Images -- Edit Image Grouping (make sure target image is in a group you're using) - Manage Images -- Edit Image Mapping (make sure the group is mapped to a computer group) - Manage Computers -- Edit Computer Grouping (make sure that at least one computer is in the computer group to which you mapped the image) Permissions in VCL are very three-dimensional and web-like, which means you have to visit 2 different screens in order to connect all the dots. I like to use the Checkbox Grid tab on all the screens I mentioned above -- it's much easier to visualize all the relationships at a glance (except on exceptionally large VCL implementations). Regards, Mike -- Mike Haudenschild Education Systems Manager Longsight Group (740) 599-5005 x809tel:%28740%29%20599-5005%20x809 m...@longsight.commailto:m...@longsight.com www.longsight.comhttp://www.longsight.com On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Hechler, Adam hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu wrote: Hello again, Well, we've run across another stumbling block that I hope someone can help with. We've been able to reproduce it using the same steps so I have to assume this would be simple for someone to answer. Windows XP image Manage Images - Create/Update an Image - Reservation RDP into Image (XP), update software, install new packages, etc. Back to Current Reservation - Create/Update Image - Update Existing Image (at this point we get the Update Image screen telling us that once the image creation is completed that we should create a new reservation, test the environment, go back to Current Reservations screen, click End, then Make this the production revision) So we get the email that Image Updated Successfully Go into New Reservation Connect to XP and take a look around. I need to install some more packages. Come back to Current Reservations and click End But instead of making production revision, we choose just End the reservation (I have more to do to it). Gog into Manage Images - Create/Update an Image - Reservation again Choose the latest revision This time we get a screen telling us that the time requested is not available and we need to choose a time from the green blocks. The whole page is green blocks. No matter what we click on it takes us back the reservation screen which repeats the cycle. There must be a way to get back into that revision, no? Thanks, Adam Hechler Senior Analyst / PC Systems Administrator hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu (860) 548-2446tel:%28860%29%20548-2446 Rensselaer
Not being able to reserve XP for updates
Hello again, Well, we've run across another stumbling block that I hope someone can help with. We've been able to reproduce it using the same steps so I have to assume this would be simple for someone to answer. Windows XP image Manage Images - Create/Update an Image - Reservation RDP into Image (XP), update software, install new packages, etc. Back to Current Reservation - Create/Update Image - Update Existing Image (at this point we get the Update Image screen telling us that once the image creation is completed that we should create a new reservation, test the environment, go back to Current Reservations screen, click End, then Make this the production revision) So we get the email that Image Updated Successfully Go into New Reservation Connect to XP and take a look around. I need to install some more packages. Come back to Current Reservations and click End But instead of making production revision, we choose just End the reservation (I have more to do to it). Gog into Manage Images - Create/Update an Image - Reservation again Choose the latest revision This time we get a screen telling us that the time requested is not available and we need to choose a time from the green blocks. The whole page is green blocks. No matter what we click on it takes us back the reservation screen which repeats the cycle. There must be a way to get back into that revision, no? Thanks, Adam Hechler Senior Analyst / PC Systems Administrator hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu (860) 548-2446 Rensselaer at Hartford
Updating a Win XP image
Happy Friday everyone, I am trying to update an image (Windows XP) but the Update Image radio button is greyed out (step 5 below). I started with a Windows XP vm and captured it to create a Base Image. Then I created a new image from that Base. I then created another new image from that image. (I was building on previous software installs but it's for a different set of users hence the two different images). Any quick tips for what I might be doing wrong? I am following these steps: 1. Create an Imaging Reservation using an existing image 2. Load the image and make the desired changes to the image 3. Disconnect from the image and proceed to the Current Reservations page 4. Click on the Create Image button 5. Choose whether to create a new image or update an existing image 6. Accept the Installer Agreement 7. Fill in the image name and optional image notes 8. Start the image creation process Thanks, Adam Hechler Senior Analyst / PC Systems Administrator hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu (860) 548-2446 Rensselaer at Hartford
RE: Updating a Win XP image
Thanks Mike, That was it. different owners. Corrected and in process. Adam From: Mike Haudenschild [mailto:m...@longsight.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:56 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Updating a Win XP image Hi, Adam -- I ran into this once when trying to administratively update an image created by a client -- I could only fork it and create a new image set, not update. Is it possible that the account you're using is not the owner of the original image (hence you cannot update it / create a revision, but can only create a new image)? Check your permissions to make sure that the admin account (or whatever account you're using) has permissions to update images owned by... whomever owns your base image. Regards, Mike -- Mike Haudenschild Education Systems Manager Longsight Group (740) 599-5005 x809 m...@longsight.commailto:m...@longsight.com www.longsight.comhttp://www.longsight.com On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Hechler, Adam hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu wrote: Happy Friday everyone, I am trying to update an image (Windows XP) but the Update Image radio button is greyed out (step 5 below). I started with a Windows XP vm and captured it to create a Base Image. Then I created a new image from that Base. I then created another new image from that image. (I was building on previous software installs but it's for a different set of users hence the two different images). Any quick tips for what I might be doing wrong? I am following these steps: 1. Create an Imaging Reservation using an existing image 2. Load the image and make the desired changes to the image 3. Disconnect from the image and proceed to the Current Reservations page 4. Click on the Create Image button 5. Choose whether to create a new image or update an existing image 6. Accept the Installer Agreement 7. Fill in the image name and optional image notes 8. Start the image creation process Thanks, Adam Hechler Senior Analyst / PC Systems Administrator hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu (860) 548-2446tel:%28860%29%20548-2446 Rensselaer at Hartford
RE: Windows 7 and DHCP
Thanks Mike and Dmitri, As to Mike reply… I’ve disabled the firewall completely, no help. I’ve also set a static IP (with the one the DHCP server is offering) and I am able to ssh from the management node to the vm. As to Dmitri’s reply… I’ve checked out that KB article and added those entries to the registry. No help. There is no Relay Agent being used. The DHCP server is the same subnet as the management node. Does anyone else have any other suggestions? How many of us are running Windows 7 VMs with VMWare Server 2.x? Thanks, Adam From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:45 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Windows 7 and DHCP Hi I have the same issue with DHCP, which seems to only affect Win 7 (32 and 64). Linux and XP work OK. I've disabled dhcp broadcast flag (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233) on both private and public interface on Win 7 image. Since then I get a lot less DHCP errors on Win 7 reservations, but still get few once in a while. Looking at my dhcpd logs files it seems like Win 7 doesn't not accept DHCPOFFER - I see multiple requests from Win 7, but it never gets IP address. Even when I manually run ipconfig /release, /renew. Where is your DHCP server located? Is it on the same subnet/broadcast domain or you have DHCP Relay agent on your subnet to communicate with DHCP server? Thanks. -- Dmitri Chebotarov Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5 Phone: (703) 993-6175 Fax: (703) 993-3404 On Monday, April 16, 2012 at 12:33 , Mike Haudenschild wrote: Hi Adam, Not to jump to the goofy, but could the Windows firewall be blocking it? Also, if you hand-assign an appropriate IP (disable DHCP on the adapter) can Windows communicate properly on the interface? Regards, Mike -- Mike Haudenschild Education Systems Manager Longsight Group (740) 599-5005 x809 m...@longsight.commailto:m...@longsight.com www.longsight.comhttp://www.longsight.com On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:52, Hechler, Adam hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu wrote: Hi, We’re having a similar issue that’s been noted on the list before but I can’t seem to find if it was ever resolved. Here’s a link to the archives where it was discussed. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-vcl-user/201104.mbox/%3C4DB59638.5000609%40ncsu.edu%3E Anyway, I have a Windows 7 base image (not captured yet). Both network interfaces are set to DHCP. The public interface successfully grabs an IP address but the private interface does not. All it does is assign on auto-configuration address (169.254.x.x). We’ve tried the recommendation in the email message I linked to. Here’s what I see in the messages log: (note: I’ve changed the actual IP address offered to x.x.x.x – a real IP was offered). Apr 16 11:39:45 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:45 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:48 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:48 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:56 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:56 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:11 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:11 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:44 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:44 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:48 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:48 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:56 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:56 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:41:12 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:41:12 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Anything else I should be looking at? Thanks, Adam Hechler Senior Analyst / PC Systems Administrator hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu (860) 548-2446tel:%28860%29%20548-2446 Rensselaer at Hartford
RE: Windows 7 and DHCP
Thanks for the reply Andy, I had actually tried the ignoredefaultroutes=enabled once before and it didn't work. I tried it again. Still didn't work. I also disabled the IPv6 early in the experimentation but I did also disable the Link-Layer Topology and I set the NIC for 100Mbps Full Duplex. I disabled the public interface. I tried to remove the route 0.0.0.0 but it did not exist. Just for ha-ha's I removed all routes and then disabled and re-enabled the private interface. And ... No good. I still get an autoconfiguration address of 169.254.104.39 There are no switches or routers in between. In fact the DHCP server is on the same server as VMWare Server. Our guys are going to double check the DHCP config against the DHCP server that is working. All things being equal, if the public interface pulls an address without problem from the public DHCP server but the private interface has troubles getting an IP address from the private DHCP server than it might be the DHCP server? Thanks, Adam -Original Message- From: Andy Kurth [mailto:andy_ku...@ncsu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:54 AM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Windows 7 and DHCP A few things to try... Run the following command and then try to get a private DHCP address: netsh interface ip set interface private interface name ignoredefaultroutes=enabled This causes Windows to never route any traffic on the private interface through the default gateway. The VCL capture code actually sets this to prevent known/common routing problems with Windows 7/2008. If this doesn't help, try disabling the public interface and delete all default routes by running route delete 0.0.0.0. Try to get a private DHCP address. Could also try: -Disable IPv6 -Set a static speed and duplex for the interface -Disable Link-Layer Topology Discovery* on the interface Are there any switches or routers between the Windows 7 computer and the private DHCP server? I have seen posts discussing similar DHCP issues which were caused by the proxy arp configuration on a router. Hope this helps, Andy On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Hechler, Adam hec...@rpi.edu wrote: Thanks Mike and Dmitri, As to Mike reply. I've disabled the firewall completely, no help. I've also set a static IP (with the one the DHCP server is offering) and I am able to ssh from the management node to the vm. As to Dmitri's reply. I've checked out that KB article and added those entries to the registry. No help. There is no Relay Agent being used. The DHCP server is the same subnet as the management node. Does anyone else have any other suggestions? How many of us are running Windows 7 VMs with VMWare Server 2.x? Thanks, Adam From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 12:45 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Windows 7 and DHCP Hi I have the same issue with DHCP, which seems to only affect Win 7 (32 and 64). Linux and XP work OK. I've disabled dhcp broadcast flag (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233) on both private and public interface on Win 7 image. Since then I get a lot less DHCP errors on Win 7 reservations, but still get few once in a while. Looking at my dhcpd logs files it seems like Win 7 doesn't not accept DHCPOFFER - I see multiple requests from Win 7, but it never gets IP address. Even when I manually run ipconfig /release, /renew. Where is your DHCP server located? Is it on the same subnet/broadcast domain or you have DHCP Relay agent on your subnet to communicate with DHCP server? Thanks. -- Dmitri Chebotarov Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5 Phone: (703) 993-6175 Fax: (703) 993-3404 On Monday, April 16, 2012 at 12:33 , Mike Haudenschild wrote: Hi Adam, Not to jump to the goofy, but could the Windows firewall be blocking it? Also, if you hand-assign an appropriate IP (disable DHCP on the adapter) can Windows communicate properly on the interface? Regards, Mike -- Mike Haudenschild Education Systems Manager Longsight Group (740) 599-5005 x809 m...@longsight.com www.longsight.com On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:52, Hechler, Adam hec...@rpi.edu wrote: Hi, We're having a similar issue that's been noted on the list before but I can't seem to find if it was ever resolved. Here's a link to the archives where it was discussed. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-vcl- user/201104.mbox/%3C4DB59638.5000609%40ncsu.edu%3E Anyway, I have a Windows 7 base image (not captured yet). Both network interfaces are set to DHCP. The public interface successfully grabs an IP address but the private interface does not. All
Windows 7 and DHCP
Hi, We're having a similar issue that's been noted on the list before but I can't seem to find if it was ever resolved. Here's a link to the archives where it was discussed. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-vcl-user/201104.mbox/%3C4DB59638.5000609%40ncsu.edu%3E Anyway, I have a Windows 7 base image (not captured yet). Both network interfaces are set to DHCP. The public interface successfully grabs an IP address but the private interface does not. All it does is assign on auto-configuration address (169.254.x.x). We've tried the recommendation in the email message I linked to. Here's what I see in the messages log: (note: I've changed the actual IP address offered to x.x.x.x - a real IP was offered). Apr 16 11:39:45 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:45 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:48 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:48 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:56 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:39:56 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:11 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:11 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:44 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:44 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:48 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:48 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:56 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:40:56 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:41:12 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Apr 16 11:41:12 vclserver dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on x.x.x.x to 00:50:56:1a:01:11 via vmnet1 Anything else I should be looking at? Thanks, Adam Hechler Senior Analyst / PC Systems Administrator hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu (860) 548-2446 Rensselaer at Hartford
RE: VCL software licensing
I had done some research with Microsoft when we were first looking into starting our VCL. In order to access the virtual machines you have to have a VDA license (Virtual Desktop Access) as well as the Windows license. As you said, the Windows license is covered under the Campus License Agreement but the VDA license usually isn't. If you are using something other than Microsoft's VDI for virtualization you also need RDS CAL (Remote Desktop Services Client Access Licenses). The VDA licenses were about $13 per student and the RDS CAL were about $11 if purchased separately, or the RDS CAL could be added to a campus license agreement at about $5.00 per (our situation was that our Campus License Agreement covered all students for the whole Institute but we're only looking at having the VCL at a remote campus which is why I had looked at both options). The RDS CAL was also available as a perpetual license for about $19 (valid only for that version of server currently in use - new licenses would have to be purchased when back end servers were upgraded to a new OS version). For approximately 500 students I think the Microsoft Licensing would cost approximately $16K per year. This is a huge issue and it was even worse before 2010 July 1 when M$ switched to the VDA license. Things might have changed as virtualized environments have continued to become more prevalent. But I would certainly check with the Microsoft rep for sure. Adam Hechler Senior Analyst / PC Systems Administrator hec...@rpi.edumailto:hec...@rpi.edu (860) 548-2446 Rensselaer at Hartford From: Alexander Patterson [mailto:alexander.patter...@csueastbay.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 2:01 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: VCL software licensing Hello Michael, We have %100 of the same model that you are using, we are working on getting everything into complacency and we are running into big walls starting with Microsoft for copies of the OS that is running on the VCL. Have you talked with Microsoft and do they know you are using the VCL to install virtual instances of the Microsoft product into a Virtual machine environment? We are in talks with Microsoft and they want to charge us X more for doing this, it could lead to the end of our pilot. We have the same campus license that you have and just wanted more insight if anyone has worked closer to the vendors to work on a VCL licensing for software -Alex On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Waldron, Michael H mwald...@email.unc.edumailto:mwald...@email.unc.edu wrote: Alex In our case, we really haven't had to do anything special in regards to licensing. For Microsoft products, we have a campus license which allows us to install on any University-owned systems using the campus site key. For many applications we have network license servers, so the VCL images with that software point to the license servers to get licenses. For all other licenses we have, the license is for a specific number of seats, not specific computers, so we just set the maximum concurrent usage setting on the image to the number of licenses there are for the application. Mike Mike Waldron Systems Specialist ITS Research Computing University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB #3420, ITS Manning, Rm 2509 919-962-9778tel:919-962-9778 From: Alexander Patterson [alexander.patter...@csueastbay.edumailto:alexander.patter...@csueastbay.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:12 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.orgmailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: VCL software licensing Hello, I wanted to know how are people dealing with software licensing for VCL? Does anyone have a document or information on how they are dealing with the different vendors when it comes to VCL. For example with Microsoft you are using 1 license for each virtual machine you spin up in a Windows environment. Do you have one per user base? Is this for concurrent users? Are you able to split up lab licensing for in house software to be used in the VCL? Do the companies know you are doing this? Does anyone have an agreement with any vendors that goes within the current VCL licensing that they are using? If someone has like an overview or general information on how you are licensing the VCL for educational use; that would be very helpful. We are starting to run into licensing walls and I would love some inside information from someone who has gone through this. -- Thanks, Alex Patterson User Support Services Operating System Analyst California State University, East Bay -- Thanks, Alex Patterson User Support Services Operating System Analyst California State University, East Bay
New here: Question about backend
Hello all, I'm new here. I'm a PC Systems Administrator and we're looking to setup a VCL here (test environment first, obviously). Please tell me if this question is not appropriate for this list but is anyone using anything besides VMWare for the back-end VMs with their VCL? It's part of my job to get appropriate pricing, etc. for the long term and all I see on the wiki is mention of VMWare products. Also, if anyone is willing to enter into an email dialog with specifically what they're running I'd really appreciate it. Send me an email. I have a lot of learning to do. Thanks, Adam Hechler Senior Analyst / PC Systems Administrator hec...@rpi.edu Rensselaer at Hartford http://www.ewp.rpi.edu/tis
RE: New here: Question about backend
Thank you, What I was curious about is whether or not anyone is using Citrix XenDesktop, Microsoft VDI/System Center or anything else? Does VCL only work with VMWare products? Thanks, Adam -Original Message- From: Josh Thompson [mailto:josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:16 PM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: New here: Question about backend -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 VCL can also use ESXi with a free license. Josh On Thursday January 13, 2011, Hicham Gibet Tani wrote: Hello Adam, The VCL uses VMware Server which is a free release. Good luck. Cordially, GIBET TANI Hicham - -- - --- Josh Thompson VCL Developer North Carolina State University my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0vM2UACgkQV/LQcNdtPQO0NwCaA9HpkuuUMUFWghIvEK aiJhwH KrYAnA7/WkesJz37Pig39+wFu9w6uWRM =w1Fv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
