[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-12 Thread Riny Qian
LingBo Tang wrote: > Riny Qian wrote: > >> >> >>> >>> Furthermore, I think it's a little implicit to return a virtual console >>> from 'command line login' rather than with 'Alt+Ctrl+F#' keys. >>> For instance, if there are more than one consoles opening, who knows >>> which one is the user's t

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-12 Thread LingBo Tang
Riny Qian wrote: > > >> >> Furthermore, I think it's a little implicit to return a virtual console >> from 'command line login' rather than with 'Alt+Ctrl+F#' keys. >> For instance, if there are more than one consoles opening, who knows >> which one is the user's target? > > Previous active vir

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread Darren J Moffat
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Darren J Moffat wrote: >> I really don't see what "Command Line" login buys you - it doesn't >> work on Sun Ray either! > > For starters, it buys you the ability to use X server configuration tools > such as kdmconfig or Xorg -configure that won't run properly in an X >

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread Riny Qian
LingBo Tang wrote: > Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >> LingBo Tang wrote: >> >>> I mean I think there is no need for 'command line login' option after >>> virtual console implementation. >> >> >> There might be an option in the GUI, but it should just activate a >> virtual console switch with instruc

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread Riny Qian
Darren J Moffat wrote: > Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >> LingBo Tang wrote: >> >>> I mean I think there is no need for 'command line login' option after >>> virtual console implementation. >> >> >> There might be an option in the GUI, but it should just activate a >> virtual console switch with ins

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread LingBo Tang
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > LingBo Tang wrote: >> I mean I think there is no need for 'command line login' option after >> virtual console implementation. > > There might be an option in the GUI, but it should just activate a > virtual console switch with instructions on how to return. > > Do you

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread LingBo Tang
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > LingBo Tang wrote: >> On the other hand, I like gdm's way who does not provide a 'command line >> login' option at all. > > That's a bug, not a feature - before gdm replaces dtlogin, it needs to > provide a way to get to a command line login, and the planned way of > doin

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread Darren J Moffat
Riny Qian wrote: > > > Darren J Moffat wrote: >> Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> >>> LingBo Tang wrote: >>> I mean I think there is no need for 'command line login' option after virtual console implementation. >>> >>> >>> There might be an option in the GUI, but it should just activate a >>>

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread LingBo Tang
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Darren J Moffat wrote: >> Is there a prototype of the vconsole work yet ? >> >> See CR# 6446957, we need vconsole to make the GDM/GNOME "Switch User" >> functionality work properly. >> > > Virtual console is also needed for gdm to replace the current > "hacky" method used

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread Darren J Moffat
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > LingBo Tang wrote: >> I mean I think there is no need for 'command line login' option after >> virtual console implementation. > > There might be an option in the GUI, but it should just activate a > virtual console switch with instructions on how to return. Why bother ?

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread Darren J Moffat
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Darren J Moffat wrote: >> Is there a prototype of the vconsole work yet ? >> >> See CR# 6446957, we need vconsole to make the GDM/GNOME "Switch User" >> functionality work properly. >> > > Virtual console is also needed for gdm to replace the current > "hacky" method used

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Darren J Moffat wrote: > Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> Darren J Moffat wrote: >>> I really don't see what "Command Line" login buys you - it doesn't >>> work on Sun Ray either! >> >> For starters, it buys you the ability to use X server configuration tools >> such as kdmconfig or Xorg -configure that

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Darren J Moffat wrote: > I really don't see what "Command Line" login buys you - it doesn't work > on Sun Ray either! For starters, it buys you the ability to use X server configuration tools such as kdmconfig or Xorg -configure that won't run properly in an X session. -- -Alan Coopersm

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
LingBo Tang wrote: > Do you mean this option maybe available for gdm? It may be - I don't know. > BTW, are you going to > make gdm as the default one after virtual console available? Yes, the plan is to make gdm the default as soon as possible, with the lack of virtual console being the biggest

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
LingBo Tang wrote: > I mean I think there is no need for 'command line login' option after > virtual console implementation. There might be an option in the GUI, but it should just activate a virtual console switch with instructions on how to return. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
LingBo Tang wrote: > On the other hand, I like gdm's way who does not provide a 'command line > login' option at all. That's a bug, not a feature - before gdm replaces dtlogin, it needs to provide a way to get to a command line login, and the planned way of doing that is to rely on virtual console

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-10 Thread Riny Qian
Darren J Moffat wrote: > Is there a prototype of the vconsole work yet ? > No, there are much problems with the initial prototype. We're working to get the correct console behaviour, single user mode, tipline, security, etc all working properly. > See CR# 6446957, we need vconsole to make the G

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Darren J Moffat wrote: > Is there a prototype of the vconsole work yet ? > > See CR# 6446957, we need vconsole to make the GDM/GNOME "Switch User" > functionality work properly. > Virtual console is also needed for gdm to replace the current "hacky" method used by dtlogin for "Command Line Login

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-10 Thread Freeman Liu
Darren J Moffat wrote: > Is there a prototype of the vconsole work yet ? > > See CR# 6446957, we need vconsole to make the GDM/GNOME "Switch User" > functionality work properly. > Riny and Lingbo have worked out a prototype that can enable multiple console. But there's still much work to do to su

[vconsole-discuss] vconsole prototype yet ?

2006-07-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
Freeman Liu wrote: > Darren J Moffat wrote: > >> Is there a prototype of the vconsole work yet ? >> >> See CR# 6446957, we need vconsole to make the GDM/GNOME "Switch User" >> functionality work properly. >> > Riny and Lingbo have worked out a prototype that can enable multiple > console. > But t