Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7 -> 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)

2013-11-04 Thread Laurence Abbott
Having had a quick look, I ended up defining both LCLBLD=1 and
ONEDIR=1 and it all built fine (with a few edits to add
cVideoDirectory:: to the relevant bits in several plugins...) and I
was up and running with version 2.1.2.

I may or may not look into the FHS bits at a later date...

Cheers,

Laz

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Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7 -> 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)

2013-11-04 Thread Mika Laitio
On 11/04/2013 11:58 PM, Timothy D. Lenz wrote:
> To me, dumping files all over the drives is messy, sloppy, and bad
> practice. Always has been and always will be. Someone just wants to copy
> MS stupidity into linux.

Maybe so, but as that is supported it would be good if there are clean
install instructions for doing that. I tried that once put found out
that at least some of the plugins failed to install correctly for me and
I needed to do symlinks, etc. to be able to start vdr properly.

Maybe it was just my fault but I can try to test with newest version of
everything once I get to place where I have that vdr 2.0 system running.

Mika

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Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7 -> 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)

2013-11-04 Thread Timothy D. Lenz
To me, dumping files all over the drives is messy, sloppy, and bad 
practice. Always has been and always will be. Someone just wants to copy 
MS stupidity into linux.


On 11/4/2013 2:16 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 04.11.2013 21:25, Lars Hanisch wrote:

Hi,

Am 04.11.2013 17:17, schrieb VDR User:

Hi,
Have a look to Make.config.template if you want to use vdr 2.x like
1.6
running in one single dir!


Yeah, I saw that sort of thing is doable but it's probably worth my
while doing things "properly" to fit in with the current way of
thinking.


It's not `improper` to keep the same pre-FHS structure. A lot of
people don't care about FHS. I personally don't like files spread out
all over the place. Instead I prefer things be kept in a single
location so things are easy to keep track of. For that reason, I also
use ONEDIR=1 in my vdr Make.config. I didn't have to move any files
anywhere and upgraded VDR with no problem.

Don't do something because someone else does it. Do it because it's
what you actually want. If you don't want it that way, why force
yourself to go against your own preference? Especially if you're using
linux where anything goes.


  And I'm pretty sure vdr will always support the "one directory"
setup, because Klaus is using it (as far as I know).


You bet! ;-)

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7 -> 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)

2013-11-04 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 04.11.2013 21:25, Lars Hanisch wrote:

Hi,

Am 04.11.2013 17:17, schrieb VDR User:

Hi,
Have a look to Make.config.template if you want to use vdr 2.x like 1.6
running in one single dir!


Yeah, I saw that sort of thing is doable but it's probably worth my
while doing things "properly" to fit in with the current way of
thinking.


It's not `improper` to keep the same pre-FHS structure. A lot of
people don't care about FHS. I personally don't like files spread out
all over the place. Instead I prefer things be kept in a single
location so things are easy to keep track of. For that reason, I also
use ONEDIR=1 in my vdr Make.config. I didn't have to move any files
anywhere and upgraded VDR with no problem.

Don't do something because someone else does it. Do it because it's
what you actually want. If you don't want it that way, why force
yourself to go against your own preference? Especially if you're using
linux where anything goes.


  And I'm pretty sure vdr will always support the "one directory" setup, 
because Klaus is using it (as far as I know).


You bet! ;-)

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7 -> 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)

2013-11-04 Thread Lars Hanisch
Hi,

Am 04.11.2013 17:17, schrieb VDR User:
>>> Hi,
>>> Have a look to Make.config.template if you want to use vdr 2.x like 1.6
>>> running in one single dir!
>>
>> Yeah, I saw that sort of thing is doable but it's probably worth my
>> while doing things "properly" to fit in with the current way of
>> thinking.
> 
> It's not `improper` to keep the same pre-FHS structure. A lot of
> people don't care about FHS. I personally don't like files spread out
> all over the place. Instead I prefer things be kept in a single
> location so things are easy to keep track of. For that reason, I also
> use ONEDIR=1 in my vdr Make.config. I didn't have to move any files
> anywhere and upgraded VDR with no problem.
> 
> Don't do something because someone else does it. Do it because it's
> what you actually want. If you don't want it that way, why force
> yourself to go against your own preference? Especially if you're using
> linux where anything goes.

 And I'm pretty sure vdr will always support the "one directory" setup, because 
Klaus is using it (as far as I know).

Regards,
Lars.


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Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7 -> 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)

2013-11-04 Thread VDR User
>> Hi,
>> Have a look to Make.config.template if you want to use vdr 2.x like 1.6
>> running in one single dir!
>
> Yeah, I saw that sort of thing is doable but it's probably worth my
> while doing things "properly" to fit in with the current way of
> thinking.

It's not `improper` to keep the same pre-FHS structure. A lot of
people don't care about FHS. I personally don't like files spread out
all over the place. Instead I prefer things be kept in a single
location so things are easy to keep track of. For that reason, I also
use ONEDIR=1 in my vdr Make.config. I didn't have to move any files
anywhere and upgraded VDR with no problem.

Don't do something because someone else does it. Do it because it's
what you actually want. If you don't want it that way, why force
yourself to go against your own preference? Especially if you're using
linux where anything goes.

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Re: [vdr] Trouble with softdevice -vo dfb:mgatv OSD with vdr 2.0.4

2013-11-04 Thread Torgeir Veimo
I can't really say if the CVS server is still available. It's been
such a long time since I did work on softdevice, and I wasn't the main
developer either.

On 5 November 2013 00:04, Marko Mäkelä  wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 10:30:14PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote:
>>
>> Softdevice had transparency 'dithering' for when there's only 1-bit
>> transparency, did you look at that option?
>
>
> Thanks, but I guess I will be fine with the transparency key. The screen
> output would not be so much for watching videos, but mainly for setting up
> timers and cutting recordings. For watching, the plan is to stream the
> videos to the Samsung SmartTV in the living room.
>
> I will try to put back the dirty_lines[] optimization that I removed in my
> initial attempt (trying to make it as simple as possible). The system felt
> slow without that.
>
> You are one of the Softdevice authors, right? Is the CVS tree at berlios.de
> still open for patches? AFAICT, recent years the mailing list archive are
> corrupted, and the latest commit was a couple of years ago.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marko
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Re: [vdr] Trouble with softdevice -vo dfb:mgatv OSD with vdr 2.0.4

2013-11-04 Thread Marko Mäkelä

On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 10:30:14PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote:
Softdevice had transparency 'dithering' for when there's only 1-bit 
transparency, did you look at that option?


Thanks, but I guess I will be fine with the transparency key. The screen 
output would not be so much for watching videos, but mainly for setting 
up timers and cutting recordings. For watching, the plan is to stream 
the videos to the Samsung SmartTV in the living room.


I will try to put back the dirty_lines[] optimization that I removed in 
my initial attempt (trying to make it as simple as possible). The system 
felt slow without that.


You are one of the Softdevice authors, right? Is the CVS tree at 
berlios.de still open for patches? AFAICT, recent years the mailing list 
archive are corrupted, and the latest commit was a couple of years ago.


Best regards,

Marko

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Re: [vdr] Trouble with softdevice -vo dfb:mgatv OSD with vdr 2.0.4

2013-11-04 Thread Torgeir Veimo
Softdevice had transparency 'dithering' for when there's only 1-bit
transparency, did you look at that option?

On 4 November 2013 06:01, Marko Mäkelä  wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 11:19:48PM +0200, Marko Mäkelä wrote:
>>
>> If I change the assignment to isTrueColor=false, the square goes away and
>> I will get the familiar gray rectangles on the screen (from the "else" block
>> that I omitted above).
>
>
> I did some further studying. The truecolor OSD was implemented early 2011.
> As far as I understand, the softdevice plugin is converting palette-based
> bitmaps into an ARGB layer. There is a comment at the end of the definition
> of class cOsd in osd.h that shows how the conversion should be done.
>
> It looks like I should simply follow this example, possibly implementing
> some kind of threshold mapping on the Alpha channel in case the Matrox does
> not implement 8-bit translucency but just a 1-bit transparency flag. So, I
> will try to remove the palette mapping from SoftOsd.c and replace the
> GetBitmap() call with the RenderPixmaps() loop.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marko
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Re: [vdr] VDR and folders

2013-11-04 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 04.11.2013 12:45, Scott wrote:

Sounds interesting, if I copy a video off my phone will I be able to see it in 
vdr without editing folders.conf?  I currently switch to xbmc to watch stuff 
recorded or copied outside of vdr .


If you copy it into a properly named directory/file structure, and the recording
is in a format that VDR can play, and you do "touch /video/.update" after 
copying
the recording, then it should work. The folders.conf file has nothing to do with
this. It is merely a list of folder names you might want to use frequently when
programming timers or moving recordings. It just helps you avoid unnecessary
typing.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] VDR and folders

2013-11-04 Thread Scott
Sounds interesting, if I copy a video off my phone will I be able to see it in 
vdr without editing folders.conf?  I currently switch to xbmc to watch stuff 
recorded or copied outside of vdr .

-Original Message-
From: "Klaus Schmidinger" 
Sent: ‎04/‎11/‎2013 11:09
To: "vdr@linuxtv.org" 
Subject: Re: [vdr] VDR and folders

On 19.10.2013 19:38, Thomas Maass wrote:
> Hi!
> I like the new editing functions coming with version 2.1.2.
> Thank you for that Klaus!
> It would be nice, if VDR could recognize existing subfolders
> and add them to folders.conf automatically.
> Sometimes I edited my videodir manually, created some
> subfolders to sort some recordings. VDR does not know
> about these folders.

I tried mixing existing recording directories into the entries
in folders.conf. However, this pretty soon gets rather complex.
Should recording directories only appear in the menu or should
they actually be written into folders.conf? What if they are only
in the menu, and you create a new subfolder in one of them?
I'd really like to keep things simple here...

With the new possibility of renaming entire folders and moving
around recordings from within VDR's menu there shouldn't be the
need for messing around with the actual disk files/directories
any more.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] VDR and folders

2013-11-04 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 19.10.2013 19:38, Thomas Maass wrote:

Hi!
I like the new editing functions coming with version 2.1.2.
Thank you for that Klaus!
It would be nice, if VDR could recognize existing subfolders
and add them to folders.conf automatically.
Sometimes I edited my videodir manually, created some
subfolders to sort some recordings. VDR does not know
about these folders.


I tried mixing existing recording directories into the entries
in folders.conf. However, this pretty soon gets rather complex.
Should recording directories only appear in the menu or should
they actually be written into folders.conf? What if they are only
in the menu, and you create a new subfolder in one of them?
I'd really like to keep things simple here...

With the new possibility of renaming entire folders and moving
around recordings from within VDR's menu there shouldn't be the
need for messing around with the actual disk files/directories
any more.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7 -> 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)

2013-11-04 Thread Laurence Abbott
On 4 November 2013 10:22, Halim Sahin  wrote:
> Hi,
> Have a look to Make.config.template if you want to use vdr 2.x like 1.6
> running in one single dir!

Yeah, I saw that sort of thing is doable but it's probably worth my
while doing things "properly" to fit in with the current way of
thinking.

Cheers,

Laz

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Re: [vdr] vdr 1.7 -> 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)

2013-11-04 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi,
Have a look to Make.config.template if you want to use vdr 2.x like 1.6
running in one single dir!
Regards
halim


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[vdr] vdr 1.7 -> 2.1 upgrade tips (FHS)

2013-11-04 Thread Laurence Abbott
Hi,

I've been using vdr for a number of years now, mainly keeping abreast
of the latest development versions. However, I "missed" the upgrades
that incorporated FHS standards (busy with other stuff, etc.).

I'm currently running vdr-1.7.29 (I think the last version before the
changes) but think I should take the plunge and upgrade. I did do some
very quick tests with vdr-2.0.3 but could never work out which config
files to move where!

Is there any simple way of working out which files go in CONFDIR and
what goes in CACHEDIR, for example?

Or is the easiest method to backup all of my current config files,
build with my set of plugins, fire it up, and then see what new config
files get created where and copy over the original set?

Or I could just grep the source for config and cache.

Others must have made this transition so any tips would be greatly received.

Cheers,

Laz

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