Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-28 Thread abbe normal
hello all

is there anyone on the list that is using streaming to xine as for
some reason i cannt get xine to open a stream from a network device im
working on.. heres the command line im testing...
xine udp://192.168.3.85:7658/#demux:mpeg-ts --verbose=2

any thoughts on this or how to get xine to lock onto this stream...

abbe

On 1/27/10, abbe normal <1abenor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hello guys
>
> for some reason i can not get this device to stream to ffmpeg even
> just one channel... ive tried xine also and it wont stream to it ...
> only thing ive gotten it to stream to is vlc so im still playing just
> letting you all know where im at and what ive tried so far...
>
> abbe
>
> On 1/23/10, abbe normal <1abenor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hello rob
>>
>> thanks for the info i will be trying this today so ill email back
>> later on how it works out... as far as the bandwidth i have 100 now
>> can move to 1000 just have to put the switch in but never noticed if
>> there was a slow down as ive not had this up and running full time
>> yet...
>>
>> abbe
>>
>> On 1/22/10, Rob Davis  wrote:
>>> abbe normal ha scritto:
>>>
 rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there
 software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a
 txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...

 thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth
 working with all your help and input...

>>>
>>> What do you use to stream it to mplayer or vlc?  Looks like the channel
>>> scanner has done the right thing.
>>> You can check what channels you should get using the hdhomerun website..
>>>
>>> For instance for my zip, I get this
>>> http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:61110#lineup_1173095
>>>
>>> Also looks like you're using ATSC over the air intead of Cable..
>>>
>>> Is there enough bandwidth to stream an HD mpeg2 stream on your network?
>>> I had trouble on mine when I used vdr-sxfe on a seperate box to the
>>> server.  I worked, but I couldn't access the internet as all my internal
>>> bandwidth was gone..
>>>
>>>
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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-27 Thread abbe normal
hello guys

for some reason i can not get this device to stream to ffmpeg even
just one channel... ive tried xine also and it wont stream to it ...
only thing ive gotten it to stream to is vlc so im still playing just
letting you all know where im at and what ive tried so far...

abbe

On 1/23/10, abbe normal <1abenor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hello rob
>
> thanks for the info i will be trying this today so ill email back
> later on how it works out... as far as the bandwidth i have 100 now
> can move to 1000 just have to put the switch in but never noticed if
> there was a slow down as ive not had this up and running full time
> yet...
>
> abbe
>
> On 1/22/10, Rob Davis  wrote:
>> abbe normal ha scritto:
>>
>>> rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there
>>> software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a
>>> txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...
>>>
>>> thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth
>>> working with all your help and input...
>>>
>>
>> What do you use to stream it to mplayer or vlc?  Looks like the channel
>> scanner has done the right thing.
>> You can check what channels you should get using the hdhomerun website..
>>
>> For instance for my zip, I get this
>> http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:61110#lineup_1173095
>>
>> Also looks like you're using ATSC over the air intead of Cable..
>>
>> Is there enough bandwidth to stream an HD mpeg2 stream on your network?
>> I had trouble on mine when I used vdr-sxfe on a seperate box to the
>> server.  I worked, but I couldn't access the internet as all my internal
>> bandwidth was gone..
>>
>>
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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-23 Thread abbe normal
hello rob

thanks for the info i will be trying this today so ill email back
later on how it works out... as far as the bandwidth i have 100 now
can move to 1000 just have to put the switch in but never noticed if
there was a slow down as ive not had this up and running full time
yet...

abbe

On 1/22/10, Rob Davis  wrote:
> abbe normal ha scritto:
>
>> rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there
>> software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a
>> txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...
>>
>> thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth
>> working with all your help and input...
>>
>
> What do you use to stream it to mplayer or vlc?  Looks like the channel
> scanner has done the right thing.
> You can check what channels you should get using the hdhomerun website..
>
> For instance for my zip, I get this
> http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:61110#lineup_1173095
>
> Also looks like you're using ATSC over the air intead of Cable..
>
> Is there enough bandwidth to stream an HD mpeg2 stream on your network?
> I had trouble on mine when I used vdr-sxfe on a seperate box to the
> server.  I worked, but I couldn't access the internet as all my internal
> bandwidth was gone..
>
>
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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-22 Thread Rob Davis

abbe normal ha scritto:


rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there
software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a
txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...

thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth
working with all your help and input...
  


What do you use to stream it to mplayer or vlc?  Looks like the channel 
scanner has done the right thing. 
You can check what channels you should get using the hdhomerun website..


For instance for my zip, I get this 
http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:61110#lineup_1173095


Also looks like you're using ATSC over the air intead of Cable..

Is there enough bandwidth to stream an HD mpeg2 stream on your network?  
I had trouble on mine when I used vdr-sxfe on a seperate box to the 
server.  I worked, but I couldn't access the internet as all my internal 
bandwidth was gone..




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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-22 Thread Georg Acher
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:25:07AM -0500, abbe normal wrote:
> hello guys
> 
> lars that looks like a nice setup that real media has didnt even know
> that was around...

There's a more detailed description of the system here:
http://www.baycom.de/~acher/netceiver/netceiver_white_paper.pdf
-- 
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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-22 Thread abbe normal
hello guys

lars that looks like a nice setup that real media has didnt even know
that was around...

rolf yes that i think maybe is the best idea but as like i said i dont
even know where to start as i have never made a plugin before... i can
write very simple scripts but this is going to need someone better to
help...

rob yes they do have there own channel scanner built into there
software and it produces a simple layout of info... i will attach a
txt file of that output... so you can have a look at it...

thanks guys for all the input think this will work and be smooth
working with all your help and input...

abbe

On 1/22/10, Lars Bläser  wrote:
> abbe normal wrote:
>> hello klaus
>>
>> there is open-source software for a tuner called hdhomerun if you had
>> this info could native support be added to vdr... this is a network
>> device and it has support in other pvr dvr setups..
>> just asking as i know there is a europe model of this device... or
>> going to be if not already there... plus there ive read theres
>> interest in it from your side as well as my side here in the us
>>
>> here is the site if you would like to look at it and the link to there
>> software info... i do have it and it does work in command line now...
>>
>> http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun_home_atsc
>>
>> http://www.silicondust.com/downloads/linux
>>
>> let us know what you think i do know your time is short as you
>> have other things on your desk...
>>
>> abbe
>
> sound like a light version of this
> http://www.reel-multimedia.com/en/shop_netceiver.php
>
> it could be useful to have a look how they have done the vdr integration
> http://svn.baycom.de/repos/vdr-mcli-plugin
>
>
>
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hdhomerun_config (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) scan /tuner0 | grep -B 2 PROGRAM > scanoutput


cat scanoutput  

SCANNING: 69500 (us-bcast:51)   

LOCK: 8vsb (ss=60 snq=85 seq=100)   

PROGRAM 3: 53.1 WLAJ-HD 

PROGRAM 4: 53.2 WLAJ-SD 

--  

SCANNING: 65900 (us-bcast:45)   

LOCK: 8vsb (ss=57 snq=75 seq=100)   

PROGRAM 3: 64.1 WLLA-DT 

PROGRAM 4: 64.2 WLLA-D2 

SCANNING: 65300 (us-bcast:44)   

LOCK: 8vsb (ss=54 snq=65 seq=100)   

PROGRAM 3: 43.1 ION 

PROGRAM 4: 43.2 qubo

PROGRAM 5: 43.3 IONLife 

PROGRAM 6: 43.4 Worship 

--  

SCANNING: 61700 (us-bcast:38)   

LOCK: 8vsb (ss=72 snq=96 seq=100)   

PROGRAM 5: 47.1 FOX47HD 

PROGRAM 6: 47.2 FOX 47  

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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-22 Thread Lars Bläser
abbe normal wrote:
> hello klaus
> 
> there is open-source software for a tuner called hdhomerun if you had
> this info could native support be added to vdr... this is a network
> device and it has support in other pvr dvr setups..
> just asking as i know there is a europe model of this device... or
> going to be if not already there... plus there ive read theres
> interest in it from your side as well as my side here in the us
> 
> here is the site if you would like to look at it and the link to there
> software info... i do have it and it does work in command line now...
> 
> http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun_home_atsc
> 
> http://www.silicondust.com/downloads/linux
> 
> let us know what you think i do know your time is short as you
> have other things on your desk...
> 
> abbe

sound like a light version of this
http://www.reel-multimedia.com/en/shop_netceiver.php

it could be useful to have a look how they have done the vdr integration
http://svn.baycom.de/repos/vdr-mcli-plugin




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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-22 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Rob Davis wrote:


Can you get the channel scan done from something else and post a mplayer
or vlc command for each channel.  Once you've done that I'll knock you
up a quick iptv script..


You really should consider write a new plugin (i.e. based on the iptv 
plugin) for it instead of hacking the iptv plugin. This would enable 
integrated channel scanner, dynamically assigned tuners, more robust 
zapping, ...


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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-21 Thread Rob Davis
On 21/01/10 15:39, abbe normal wrote:
> hello guys
> 
> yes you are right a pci or usb device may be cheaper but in my case at
> 99 dollars each for usb and 108 dollars for pci didnt make since but
> in the thought of less pci buses on systems now was a big factor...
> then you have to double that cost as a single tuner will only allow
> one channel on that box so recording another is not possible... now
> being able to use this at any system in the network was the main
> idea...
> 
> all this aside i do have the iptv plugin running but dont have it
> figured out yet... but if this could be add to it and support was
> added in the plugin think it would be a nice add on... having a
> channel scanner then a script that would convert that info would be
> nice to make things simpler...
> 
> as far as Klaus adding this to vdr id say no when theres a plugin that
> it could be add to... make more since to do it as a plugin with native
> support for it... but as i dont even know how to write a plugin im
> lost at this point... this is why im asking here in hopes the guys
> that have or work on the plugins could help in pointing me in the
> right direction... i can then at least try to make it work... most of
> the guys who know me know i dont know a lot but i dont give up easy if
> it can be done... so im will to help if im told what and how too... i
> can at least try...
> 

Can you get the channel scan done from something else and post a mplayer
or vlc command for each channel.  Once you've done that I'll knock you
up a quick iptv script..


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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-21 Thread abbe normal
hello guys

yes you are right a pci or usb device may be cheaper but in my case at
99 dollars each for usb and 108 dollars for pci didnt make since but
in the thought of less pci buses on systems now was a big factor...
then you have to double that cost as a single tuner will only allow
one channel on that box so recording another is not possible... now
being able to use this at any system in the network was the main
idea...

all this aside i do have the iptv plugin running but dont have it
figured out yet... but if this could be add to it and support was
added in the plugin think it would be a nice add on... having a
channel scanner then a script that would convert that info would be
nice to make things simpler...

as far as Klaus adding this to vdr id say no when theres a plugin that
it could be add to... make more since to do it as a plugin with native
support for it... but as i dont even know how to write a plugin im
lost at this point... this is why im asking here in hopes the guys
that have or work on the plugins could help in pointing me in the
right direction... i can then at least try to make it work... most of
the guys who know me know i dont know a lot but i dont give up easy if
it can be done... so im will to help if im told what and how too... i
can at least try...

abbe

On 1/21/10, VDR User  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Nicolas Huillard 
> wrote:
>> Le jeudi 21 janvier 2010 à 09:27 -0600, Rob Davis a écrit :
>>> More native support could be good..  However, I wonder what the
>>> advantage would be to having this over an internal pci dvb card or even
>>> a usb one?  The pci card is surely cheaper, and the functionality is
>>> already there in VDR?
>>
>> It may be useful in a multi-client setup, where each client have no
>> storage nor DVB device, and the storage is a simple NFS server (tiny NAS
>> server with USB disks).
>> Different kind of setup than the usual server using storage and DVB
>> devices, to which diskless/deviceless clients connect.
>
> Maybe some day VDR will have good solid support of server/client
> setups.  It's one huge feature it lacks but honestly I won't hold my
> breath for such a feature.  I don't think Klaus has any interest in
> this unfortunately.
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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-21 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Nicolas Huillard  wrote:
> Le jeudi 21 janvier 2010 à 09:27 -0600, Rob Davis a écrit :
>> More native support could be good..  However, I wonder what the
>> advantage would be to having this over an internal pci dvb card or even
>> a usb one?  The pci card is surely cheaper, and the functionality is
>> already there in VDR?
>
> It may be useful in a multi-client setup, where each client have no
> storage nor DVB device, and the storage is a simple NFS server (tiny NAS
> server with USB disks).
> Different kind of setup than the usual server using storage and DVB
> devices, to which diskless/deviceless clients connect.

Maybe some day VDR will have good solid support of server/client
setups.  It's one huge feature it lacks but honestly I won't hold my
breath for such a feature.  I don't think Klaus has any interest in
this unfortunately.

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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-21 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Le jeudi 21 janvier 2010 à 09:27 -0600, Rob Davis a écrit :
> More native support could be good..  However, I wonder what the
> advantage would be to having this over an internal pci dvb card or even
> a usb one?  The pci card is surely cheaper, and the functionality is
> already there in VDR?

It may be useful in a multi-client setup, where each client have no
storage nor DVB device, and the storage is a simple NFS server (tiny NAS
server with USB disks).
Different kind of setup than the usual server using storage and DVB
devices, to which diskless/deviceless clients connect.

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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-21 Thread Rob Davis
On 21/01/10 04:20, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Nicolas Huillard wrote:
> 
>> For those who don't spare some time digging on the website:
>> * this is an Ethernet device: antenna in (single, dual), ethernet out
>> * no storage inside the box
>> * they provide an LGPL library "libhdhomerun": include hdhomerun.h
>> and/or hdhomerun_device.h to use the top level API
> 
> I'd make another 'pseudo' DVB input device plugin for this based on the
> current IPTV plugin. A quick look at the API reveals that you could
> dynamically add necessary number of provided tuners as done in IPTV
> plugin. You could also implement a channel scan functionality as done in
> IPTV plugin. I quess its' UDP/RTP transport is already compatible with
> the one implemented in IPTV plugin. The only requirement from core VDR
> would be the pluginparam patch (or similar) functionality.
> 

My thoughts exactly.  I am pretty sure this would work as is with
vdr-iptv.  I had a quick look at some of the US versions and it looks
interesting.  I got vdr-iptv working with an external cable box and a
pvr card, so using a script we could send off whatever card was
necessary to change channels and bring in the input.  The downside would
probably be a long channel change time.

More native support could be good..  However, I wonder what the
advantage would be to having this over an internal pci dvb card or even
a usb one?  The pci card is surely cheaper, and the functionality is
already there in VDR?

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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-21 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Nicolas Huillard wrote:


For those who don't spare some time digging on the website:
* this is an Ethernet device: antenna in (single, dual), ethernet out
* no storage inside the box
* they provide an LGPL library "libhdhomerun": include hdhomerun.h
and/or hdhomerun_device.h to use the top level API


I'd make another 'pseudo' DVB input device plugin for this based on the 
current IPTV plugin. A quick look at the API reveals that you could 
dynamically add necessary number of provided tuners as done in IPTV 
plugin. You could also implement a channel scan functionality as done in 
IPTV plugin. I quess its' UDP/RTP transport is already compatible with 
the one implemented in IPTV plugin. The only requirement from core VDR 
would be the pluginparam patch (or similar) functionality.


BR,
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Re: [vdr] new support

2010-01-21 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Le mercredi 20 janvier 2010 à 19:36 -0500, abbe normal a écrit :
> hello klaus
> 
> there is open-source software for a tuner called hdhomerun if you had
> this info could native support be added to vdr... this is a network
> device and it has support in other pvr dvr setups..
> just asking as i know there is a europe model of this device... or
> going to be if not already there... plus there ive read theres
> interest in it from your side as well as my side here in the us
> 
> here is the site if you would like to look at it and the link to there
> software info... i do have it and it does work in command line now...
> 
> http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun_home_atsc
> 
> http://www.silicondust.com/downloads/linux
> 
> let us know what you think i do know your time is short as you
> have other things on your desk...

For those who don't spare some time digging on the website:
* this is an Ethernet device: antenna in (single, dual), ethernet out
* no storage inside the box
* they provide an LGPL library "libhdhomerun": include hdhomerun.h
and/or hdhomerun_device.h to use the top level API

>From the README:
Top level include file: hdhomerun.h
Top level API: hdhomerun_device. See hdhomerun_device.h for
documentation.
The hdhomerun_device API should be used rather than the low level
control and video APIs required with previous versions.
Additional libraries required:
- pthread
- iphlpapi (windows only)

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