Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO tape drives Windows
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Donaldson, Mark mark.donald...@staples.com wrote: A couple versions back, both versions of OS versions of NetBackup, there were problems SSO sharing tape drives with Windows boxes. While officially supported many people reported problems with device ownership. Windows was somewhat grabby and liked to possess shared devices rather than happily share them. We're probably starting a process now with the upcoming 7.1 and our first implementation of Windows servers as media servers (either Win2003 or Win2008 depending on when they're built). What's been your more recent experience sharing tape drives (Ultrium 5) between Windows Unix (AIX/Linux) media servers? We have been sharing drives for years between Windows and Solaris. Recently we also added NetApp in the SSO environment. It all works well. We're about to find out how well Linux plays in the sandbox. I don't think we've had an SSO issue in a long time. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on destaging basic disk dssu
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Patrick netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.ukwrote: Is there a way to do the above? If so how? Short answer: no. Longer answer: It's been requested multiple times and is being considered for a future release. There are ways to configure yourself around these limitations by configuring more storage units and reducing the maximum size of a destage run to force it to kick off more jobs. Then you'll run into issues on saturating your disk subsystem... With an LTO-4 taking up to 400MB/sec of well-compressable data, how many of those streams can your disks take? .../Ed image001.gif___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] iSCSI and NBU 7.0 or
NDMP is typically (exclusively?) used for file systems. iSCSI is block. You should back up the data via host agents. On Feb 24, 2011 6:45 AM, Jim Caldwell caldwe...@nccommunitycolleges.edu wrote: We are looking at new disk storage from HP that are iSCSI. I have heard that iSCSI is not a supported by NBU (current version 7.0) The compatibility list does not directly say (Hard to understand), only NDMP Direct copy Not Implemented. Any insight from the Collective would be helpful and yes resistance is futile. Thanks. ;-) James M. Caldwell NCCCS Unix Support Operation Systems Analyst caldwe...@nccommunitycolleges.edu 919-807-7234 (Office) ___ E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and shall be disclosed to third parties when required by the statutes. (NCGS.Ch.132) ___ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Fiber Transport
The first check you need to do is to see if it's a NetBackup transport limitation. Do one of the various tests to see if you're reading off the file system fast enough (a backup to the null device is documented in a technote somewhere). .../Ed On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Heathe Yeakley hkyeak...@gmail.com wrote: I picked up some Enterprise Client licenses to speed up the backups on some of my larger database servers. I've gone through the Fiber Transport guide and setup everything as the guide suggests. When I fire off my first backup, I'm only getting like 20 MB/s - 30 MB/s. Those aren't quite the numbers I was expecting. I've gone back through the guides and checked to see if there's some glaring mistake I've made and I can't find one. My question is this: For those of you that use FT, do I need to go into the OS and change anything on the HBA? Is there perhaps a setting in the OS or maybe on the firmware of the HBA itself that might be throttling my SAN bandwidth? Thanks. - Heathe Kyle Yeakley ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Fred M 77fre...@gmail.com wrote: My employer is requesting I evaluate PureDisk and DataDomain for de-duplication. One of the selling advantages of the PureDisk appliances is that you only buy the de-dupe licenses once. All hardware eventually gets old. When that happens, you can buy another PureDisk appliance and re-use your existing de-dupe licenses. You could build your own appliance with off-the-shelf hardware and re-use the licenses. With a DD, when you upgrade the hardware, you're re-buying the software again since the prices are not separate. When you're doing the cost comparisons, factor in not only the initial purchase but also subsequent purchases. I despise per-TB licenses too (as somebody else pointed out), If I had a choice, I wouldn't buy them and would tend to avoid the PureDisk licensing model specifically for this reason. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] update_dbclients
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.comwrote: So when updating from 6.5.6 clients to 7.0.1 via the update_clients script, I should expect it to also update the installed Oracle agent as well? Even if it was not installed before, it will be after you update. The Oracle agent is now part of the base client kit. Watch those new client sizes to make sure you're not filling any disks! .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Bryan Bahnmiller bbahnmil...@dtcc.comwrote: Ed, Rusty, Have you noticed if the load on the DNS servers has gone down? I remember building an HPUX master server with thousands of clients. Our master server hammered the DNS server. We ended up configuring a DNS caching server on our own master. It didn't add a lot to the load on the master, and it severely reduced the network traffic to the DNS server and almost eliminated the load on the DNS server. We have never seen an issue with high DNS server utilization. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Archive and Restore taking forever on DR server
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: If this is version 7.0.1, there is a hostname caching 'feature' now in NetBackup (Which I do NOT like, Symantec!!!). It caches the IP for each host configured in NBU and sometimes this can result in the incorrect IP being tied to the hostname. The default TTL for this cached data is one hour, but you can refresh it by running the following command on the Master/Media server(s) and/or clients: bpclntcmd -clear_host_cache So, you could see that even though the name resolution may be fixed in DNS or hosts, NBU may still have it cached. I've heard there's a way to reduce the time this is refreshed, but I don't remember where it's at. The DNS caching behavior is controlled by the 2nd parameter of the master server's VNET_OPTIONS in bp.conf; units are in seconds. The default in 7.0.1 is 1 hour, but we've reduced this to 5 min in our environment without ill effect: VNET_OPTIONS = 120 300 200 40 3 1 30 5 1793 32 0 0 .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netabckup server registry entries change after each reboot
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Saran Brar saranb...@live.com wrote: I would like to share with all of you a very strange problem with a windows 2003 server. Whenever the server is rebooted, its netbackup server registry entries change. Have anyone faced this kind of problem. Please help. I've never heard of this. Is it only 1 server or all of them? Turn off all of the NetBackup services and reboot. Do the entries change? If so, you know it's not something in the NetBackup startups. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1 First Availability announced!
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH147815actp=RSS The marquee features of NetBackup 7.1 include: - Disaster Recovery - AIR: Auto Image Replication - Virtualization - Linux single file restore for VMware - Smart Policies for VMware - Manageability / Ease of Use - Customer Experience - License / Inv / Deployment reporting - Capacity model - OpsCenter VBR parity - Audit Trails (Phase 2) - SLP Reporting - Native Packaging - LiveUpdate- Client Major Version Upgrade - Deduplication - HPUX MSDP support - Oracle dedupe improvements - IPv6 Support - Supportability - Job flow logging improvements - Status Code 5 Cleanup - Proliferation - Red Hat 6 - AIX 7 - FT Media Server – 8Gb HBA - BMR Windows support of SFW5 - Snapshot Client updates** ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Mixed Backup Policies.
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Harpreet SINGH harpreet_si...@ctl.creative.com wrote: To facilitate, I have configured the Backup Policies in such a way that they are tied up with one to one with designated Slot ID in Tape Library. I have separated out the UNIX backup and Windows Backup Policies. Ex. ERP_MON Tapes are using ENC_ERP_MON Volume pool. .. . Library Slot #1 WIN_MON Tapes are using ENC_WIN_MON Volume pool. … Library Slot #10 and so on. This sounds really odd. Why would you tie a slot to a volume pool? May I know, If we merge the UNIX Backup’s and Windows Backup’s in a single backup policy. What are the problems we are going to face? Any backup / restore performance issue etc… You can't do this. Every policy has a policy type. For Windows, that will likely be Windows-NT. For Unix, they'll be Standard. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade to 7.0 and licenses
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:25 AM, ccosta@gmail.com wrote: After upgrading to NBU 7.0, do I need to replace the 6.5.5 licenses with 7.0 licenses? I don't think you need to but you should. Every new NetBackup release incorporates something different in the license keys. You should have received and invite from Symantec to upgrade your keys and you should take advantage of that. There's no charge to upgrade your keys to the current version. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 7.1
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.comwrote: Is anyone using it? Any initial results/comments? It's out of beta but I suspect that the beta customers are still bound by an NDA until it's FA. The FA release is expected this month. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 71
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:31 PM, ccosta@gmail.com wrote: We have a 2-node Windows 2008 clustered client. I have two policies configured: one policy has the real host names and local drives (C: / D: ). The other policy has the virtual cluster name and shared drives configured. Both policies were working fine for months. Now the policy with the virtual clustered name is failing with an error 71. (Note: the other policy with the real names is working fine) I called the SA, the cluster is up and running and both shared drives are online and accessible. I've seen the sysadmins be mistaken... I suspect the cluster has transitioned and the SA didn't put the right volumes in the cluster group or the name didn't fail over with the volumes. If you're running 7.0, do this: From the master server: # bpcoverage -c virtualservername With 6.5, bpcoverage will show you disks that are on the other node in the cluster. It looks like 7.0 fixed that. So, with 6.x, do this: # bpgetconfig -M virtualservername CLIENT_NAME This will tell you which system NetBackup is expecting to find the drives on. Once you've got the real host for the client, browse to it and make sure the volumes really are on that host. If you don't have direct access to the client, go to your admin console, open up the Backup Selections tab, and hit the folder button. Drill down and see if you can see any folders. If you can't, the disks are probably not on that system. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] bpstart and bpend for Linux is required
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Raed Abdalkarim raed.abedalka...@tdmgroup.net wrote: I need to run bpstart and bpend scripts on a client (CentOS machine), my master server is windows 2003. Could anyone send me those scripts please? You'll find sample scripts in /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup for Oracle configuration
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Mark Glazerman mark.glazer...@spartech.com wrote: The oracle agent comes as part of the netbackup 7 client now. Although the Oracle agent is bundled in the client, remember that it is still separately licensed... .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Conner, Neil n...@mbari.org wrote: Catarc does not work if your catalog is NFS mounted I don't think that an NFS-mounted catalog is supported, is it? Certainly Symantec won't support the EMM database on NFS even though Sybase officially supports NFS-based databases (like Oracle does). .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Archiving Solution
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Chapman, Scott scott.chap...@icbc.comwrote: Kind of a side question… does Symantec support SAN disk for the catalog these days? I know they didn’t used to support that, but the catalog is getting a bit big these days to keep running it off of internal disk… Thoughts? They've supported this for years and years. Our catalog has been EVA-based for what seems like forever. It's about to go local with our new master server which has enough slots - and spindles are getting big enough - that local SAS is doable again. Our catalog is about 740GB. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, please top urgent
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:29 PM, nizar motasim nizar1...@hotmail.com wrote: 12/9/2010 7:50:13 PM - positioned 2974LT; position time: 00:00:05 12/9/2010 7:50:13 PM - begin writing 12/9/2010 9:03:16 PM - Error bptm(pid=5808) cannot write image to media id 2974LT, drive index 0, The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error. 12/9/2010 9:03:23 PM - end writing; write time: 01:13:10 media write error(84) [r...@osiris ~]# bperror -S 84 -r media write error The system's device driver returned an I/O error while NetBackup wrote to removable media or a disk file. Do the following, as appropriate: * For NetBackup Snapshot Client only: If the following message appears in the /usr/openv/netbackup/bptm log, and the values for key, asc, and ascq are all zero (0x0) as shown in this example message: tape error occurred on extended copy command, key = 0x0, asc = 0x0, ascq = 0x0 your host-bus adapter and its driver are probably not supported by NetBackup Snapshot Client. The host-bus adapters supported in the release are listed in the NetBackup Release Notes. * For additional information, check the following: * NetBackup Problems report to determine the device or media that caused the error * System and error logs for the system (UNIX and Linux) * Event Viewer Application and System logs (Windows) * If NetBackup writes backups to a disk file, verify the following: the fragment size that is configured for the disk storage unit is not greater than the maximum file size that the operating system specifies. * On Windows, make sure the tapes are not write protected. * If bpbackupdb was used to back up the NetBackup catalog to a disk path on a UNIX or Linux system, do the following: The image you try to write may be greater than the maximum file size that the operating system specifies. Tape files do not have this limit. * If the media is tape, check for the following: * A defective or a dirty drive. Clean it or have it repaired (refer to the tpclean command for robotic drives). * The wrong media type. Verify that the media matches the drive type you use. * Defective media. If it is defective, use the bpmedia command to set the volume to the FROZEN state so it is not used for future backups. * Incorrect drive configuration. Verify the Media and Device Management and system configuration for the drive. For example, on UNIX and Linux the drive may be configured for fixed mode when it must be variable mode. See the NetBackup Device Configuration Guide for more information. This configuration often results in the media being frozen with the message too many data blocks written, check tape and drive block size configuration. See Troubleshooting frozen media in the Troubleshooting Guide. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] RHEL 6 and NetBackup 6.5 and 7.0
The earliest release I would expect to see client support in would be 7.1 (aka Denali) which just exited beta (according to a public seminar I was at today). RHEL 6 is so new, however, that it might not have made it in there yet. 7.1 won't ship until Q1/2011. I would GUESS that if you stuck to ext3 or at least avoided things like extended attributes that you wouldn't have any issues you couldn't work around although you wouldn't be officially supported. RHEL 6 was just released - I'm a small bit surprised that sysadmins are hot to use it in PRODUCTION. dev maybe, but PRODUCTION? .../Ed On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Wayne Smith w...@maine.edu wrote: Hi all, Some of my sysadmins are getting hot to use the new RHEL 6 in their production systems. Has Symantec discussed support for RHEL 6? Are there experiences you can share on RHEL 6 and NetBackup 6.5 and/or 7.0? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] how to fix a vss writer
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:24 PM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote: Does anybody know who to fix the Exchange vss writer? Mine currently says failed. I need to get it back to stable. My exchange 2010 backups are failing and I think it is because of the writer. Here's the Microsoft article on fixing VSS: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940184 .../Ed http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940184 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] New netbackup master server spec
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:37 AM, xgtdec netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.comwrote: 64 Gig, would you think thats a minimum, if you could afford more would nbu 7.0 use it? Any other general Spec considerations you would take? There are a lot of it depends here. It depends on how many jobs you're scheduling and how frequently. It depends on whether you're a media server as well as a master server. It depends on whether you're doing de-dupe. It depends on how many restores you're doing and how big those restores are. Since you have a pair of master servers now, you're in good shape to know what your expected load should look like. Take the requirements for both servers, add them up, figure out how much you're currently behind the curve, and add your expected growth. You can pick up a nice DL580 G7 - the performance model comes pre-configured with 4 8-core processors and 64GB of RAM. We're getting one with Linux to replace our aging Solaris-based server but there's no reason you couldn't run Windows on it. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Error code 811
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:30 AM, shekhar deshingkar sdeshing...@gmail.comwrote: as we have received error code 811 resources requester failed on master server what could be the possiblities failure of the alerts. where i can check the failure logs of netbackup with error codes,could someone please guide on this issue. Start here: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH58686 http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH58686Then click on status 811. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Error code 811
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:18 AM, shekhar deshingkar sdeshing...@gmail.comwrote: Could u please give detail netbackup commands using Unix for tuning the netbackup ? http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH62317http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH62317actp=searchviewlocale=en_USsearchid=1289924439481 and http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH63229 .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup training
I've been working through the web-based NBU 7.0 training (to fill in the blanks before my cert exam). There's not much in there that doesn't also apply to 6.5. By the time a new admin will get to the advanced features of 7.0, you'll be there anyway. BTW, unless you really don't like your new hire, don't subject him to the web-based self-study Symantec course. That course needs to be yanked from the curriculum - it's absolutely horrible. It consists of an English as a second language speaker reading into a teleprompter with slides you can't read unless you've got a 22' monitor at 1024x768 resolution. .../Ed On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:03 AM, McDonald II, James F. james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote: We are currently using NBU 6.5 for Windows and I am trying to pass my admin duties on to a new hire. I have not seen any training dates for NBU 6.5 for Windows for the Baltimore/D.C. area. Has anyone had NBU 7.0 for Windows training? Is it similar enough to the 6.5 training that we could send the new guy to 7.0 and he still get the training he needs to run 6.5? I have emailed Symantec about upgrading to 7.0, but have not heard back and I just wanted to follow through on this possible option. *Thanks,* *James McDonald* *System Administrator* *SAIC - IISBU* *410-312-2232* *mcdonal...@saic.com* mcdonal...@saic.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:42 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net wrote: trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO! Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with what I need. symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given. Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with SSO installed. I always thought SSO was seperate SSO is still separate.From the Licensing and Support Services guide: *NetBackup Shared Storage Option* NetBackup Shared Storage Option dynamically shares individual tape drives, standalone or in a robotic tape library, among multiple NetBackup Enterprise Servers and NDMP NAS systems. These servers can be a NetBackup Master Server, NetBackup Media Server, or NetBackup SAN Media Server. NetBackup Shared Storage Option is licensed per shared tape drive, regardless of the manufacturer, type of device, or number of NetBackup Servers attached to the SAN. The NetBackup Shared Storage Option license is in addition to any required NetBackup Library Based Tape Drive licenses. If the shared tape drive is not included in a tape library, then only a Share Storage Option license is required. The Shared Storage Option is not needed when used with the NetBackup Virtual Tape Option. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:57 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net wrote: What is the difference between tier1 license and tier2? For Windows/Linux/SolarisX64 servers, Tier 1 is for 1 processor socket, Tier 2 is 2-3 sockets, Tier 3 is 4-7, and Tier 4 is 8 or more. Is there somewhere I can look, because the sales people seem to be more confused than I am ! The document is named Licensing and Support Services and your sales people should be able to get their hands on it. It's for Symantec employees and partners only (and I'm neither :)). .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] importing images - media ID problem
On your older system, look at the barcode rules you had in effect and copy them to the new system. It looks like you're using the last 6 characters on the new system whereas you were using the first 6 on the old. See http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=HOWTO34022 .../Ed Ed Wilts Mounds View, MN ewi...@ewilts.org -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of skylane Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] importing images - media ID problem Hi all, I have this issue, just finished installing a new NBU 6.5.6 on Win server 2008 R2 with a new robot HP MSL G3 Series FC tapes LTO4. Backup are working good via NDMP. I'm trying to import media from my older system NBU 6.0 LTO2 and I have a mismatch between the media ID the system reads and ID on the media itself and when trying to run phase one of the import I get error 176 - begin Import 11/11/2010 15:21:51 - Error bptm(pid=5920) Media mounted has media id of PT1051, but 1051L2 was requested. Must add PT1051 to Media Manager volume database and retry. 11/11/2010 15:21:51 - Error bpimport(pid=6904) Status = cannot perform specified media import operation. 11/11/2010 15:21:51 - end Import; elapsed time: 00:01:11 cannot perform specified media import operation(176) How can I change the media ID or change the way the robot reads the ID from the media ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time
A couple of years ago we had this in a cron job and would find backups occasionally failing with a status 228. I don't know if it was specific that the release we were running at the time but I'd suggest being careful about triggering these cleanups manually. .../Ed On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Scott Jacobson sjaco...@novell.com wrote: I think along with the below your also asking if you can run the cleanup of images manually rather than waiting for the twelve hour default, if so: \admincmd\bpimage -cleanup -allclients -sj judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com 11/12/2010 11:21 AM http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH135182 this may give some insite *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of * judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com *Sent:* Friday, November 12, 2010 12:19 PM *To:* bwin...@wlgore.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time Been looking at this myself. The image clean up is part of it. By default it is set to 12 hours and can go a low as 8 hours. A clean up will run after a restore if nothing else is running, or after a session of backups. But it is the bpexpidate -deassigempty that expires images. And this you cannot change when it runs *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *Bobby R Windle *Sent:* Friday, November 12, 2010 11:40 AM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] image cleanup process - run time I understand Netbackup does a cleanup process on a regular bases when a job fails or ends etc. Also I understand a nightly cleanup process runs to expire images on disk etc.. What time does this nightly cleanup job kick off or better yet, how do I change this job to run at a specific time? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore Script.
Here's what we use,. Change the SrcClient DstClient variables and then stick in your list of files to restore. If you want to change the restore path, edit those lines or comment them out. If you need to change the type (e.g. 13 for Windows files), change the restore command at the bottom. #!/bin/sh # Optional parameters: start-date end-date in mm/dd/ format # which allow restoring files backed up between dates rather than # just the most recent copies. # Source/destination client(s) SrcClient=source.domain.com DstClient=destination.domain.com AltPath=/var/tmp/restore-$$-alt-path Files=/var/tmp/restore-$$-files Log=/var/tmp/restore-$$-log id=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -u` if [ $id -eq 0 ] then Restore=/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bprestore else Restore='sudo /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bprestore' fi [ -n $1 ] start=-s $1 [ -n $2 ] end=-e $2 [ -f $Log ] rm -f $Log # List of files to be restored cat $Files EOF /tracker.tar EOF # Restore to an alternate path # format is change old-path to new-path cat $AltPath EOF change /tracker.tar to /restore/tracker.tar EOF [ -f $AltPath ] altp=-R $AltPath cmd=$Restore -K -C $SrcClient -D $DstClient -f $Files -L $Log $start $end $altp date $Log echo $cmd $Log $cmd echo Progress log is in $Log echo When finished, please delete /var/tmp/restore-$$-* On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Ulises Rodriguez ulises.rodrig...@wallst.com wrote: All, I have a huge restore to do, I was wondering if any of you have a script that I can feed a XLS,TXT, CSV file with the files I need to restore. The file contains the server name, path and file name. Please let me know if this is even possible. Thank you, Ulises Rodriguez Operations Support ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP exclude
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.com wrote: How do you exclude certain paths from an NDMP job? Unlike a regular host you can't put an include/exclude file on the client.. You need to check a couple of places. First, in the NetBackup NDMP guide, you'll find references to commands that you can pass to an NDMP client. In particular, SET is used to set NDMP variables. Next, in your NDMP client's guide, you'll find references that what these are and how they're used. For NetApp filers, the documentation is in the Tape Backup and Recovery Guide in the section Environment variables supported by Data ONTAP. Cheers, .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Centos/Linux Client Install.
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Ulises Rodriguez ulises.rodrig...@wallst.com wrote: Does anyone know if there is an RPM 32x,64x client install for Linux/Centos? Not yet. Symantec has been talking for a while about native packaging for the client kits but they're not available yet. I would expect that sometime before the next major release we'll see native packaging for at least Linux, Solaris, and HP-UX but nothing has been announced. You will most definitely not see a 32-bit RPM since 32-bit kernels for Linux are no longer supported by 7.0 clients. If I remember correctly, there have been postings to this list from people who have built their own RPMs based on the Symantec-provided kits and you can search the archives. It's probably not that hard - generate a tarball from NetBackup (e.g. push it out to a dummy client and add a post-install script to do the actual install. A good RPM guide book will help. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5.x or 7.0(?) for Windows 2008 R2 64-bit + DFSR.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote: Seems the DFSR may now be in the Shadow copy Components part. Yup. And to make it more interesting, apparently there's no such thing as an incremental of the Shadow Copy Components - all of the backups are always fulls. We're having a bit of fun with one of our DFSR hosts and we're running 7.0.1 on both the server and the client. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 on Win 2k
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.comwrote: Does the NBU client require a reboot when installing on a Windows host? Specifically going to install a 6.5 client over an existing 5.1MP6 client. Is that the most appropriate way to upgrade a Windows client and will it need a reboot? It depends. If the client was originally installed with VSP as the snapshot provider (the default), a reboot WILL be required to remove it. If it was installed without VSP, then a reboot is not required. With VSP installed now, you'll need to uninstall, reboot, then install and tell it NOT to use VSP. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to setup/use Netbackup Opscenter in 7.0
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:47 PM, bolobaboo kabootar boloba...@gmail.comwrote: I see symantec incorporated NOM/VBR in Opscenter. Any body have any clue how to setup/use in nutcell ? OpsCenter will be much more than NOM/VBR - it will end up being a primary management interface interface for NetBackup related functions. For example, the Java interface will be EOL'd starting with NBU 8 (this is documented in the 7.0 release notes). So between now and the release of NBU 8, we'll see a lot of new functionality being added to OpsCenter. OpsCenter today does not have full feature compatability with VBR although I heard it's coming soon. I didn't pay attention to the details as we use Aptare StorageConsole, not VBR. One thing that's not clearly documented is that although OpsCenter is supported on Linux/Unix platforms, Symantec is strongly advising customers to use it on Windows 2008 64-bit system. Sybase apparently really sucks on Linux/Unix as the database gets large - this isn't a problem for EMM where the database is typically fairly small but is a real problem for OpsCenter where you can have millions of rows in your DB. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Digest ... ITS GONE! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Wilkinson, Alex alex.wilkin...@dsto.defence.gov.au wrote: Does anyone know where symantec have relocated the Netbackup Digest ? It used to be located at: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/NBUESVR_digest.htm Or does it no longer exist ? It doesn't exist any more since they cut over to the new web site. This is the closest I've been able to come up with, displaying the most recent articles for NBU 7: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentkey=15143channel=TECHNICAL_SOLUTIONversion=58402sort=recent .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] BMR implementation for two cluster servers
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:19 AM, pranav batra pranav_vent...@hotmail.comwrote: 1) Does BMR also support veritas file System No (it least not in NBU 7). For Red Hat 4.x (x64) and Red Hat 5.x (x64), the following fie systems are supported: EXT2, EXT3, Reiserfs http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH45978 Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Expired Backup ID Doesn't Free Up Some Space
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Adrian Soetanto adrian.soeta...@bentoel.co.id wrote: What I want is to delete only certain backup IDs in a media ID and free up some space in that media ID. I've tried to use this command: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpexpdate -backupid backup_id -d 0 But it doesn't free up some space in the media ID, it just expires the backup ID. This will work for random access devices like disk but it won't work for sequential devices like tape. Tapes in NetBackup are written sequentially and do not allow pieces in the middle to be deleted. Even if you delete the last image on the tape, I'm not sure that NetBackup will truncate the tape and put the end-of-tape marker at the end of the last image. This is one of the reasons why it's a bad idea to mix retentions on the same tape. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] FlashBackups - Q A:
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:29 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net wrote: Finally, the purpose of this is for some of our large servers that have Multiple volumes. Is there any problem selecting multiple drive letters under Backup selections tab? In other words, rather than list 1, can I list 8 different volumes? Be careful with this. When the parent job starts, it will immediately create all of the snapshots. If some of the child jobs don't start for a while, you'll have a snapshot out there wasting space (and giving you possible performance degradation on the client) for nothing. In general, because of this (bad, IMO) design, I create a single policy per FlashBackup volume. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] need help with mass tape copy
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:59 AM, X_S netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.comwrote: we are using nb 6.5.5 on windows 2003 platform with vault. we need to copy a few hundred 9940 tapes to LTO4 media and am looking for the best and most efficient way to copy the tapes. my other question is, can i use one media server to read the 9940 tapes and have them duplicated to another media server that has the LTO4 drives attached? It's actually uglier than you think because you don't really duplicate tapes - you duplicate images. So you need to identify all of the tapes for a particular image, make sure they're in the library, and then duplicate the image. If you're lucky, you can fit all of the 9940 tapes in the library at once. If not, you have a lot of groundwork to do. I think that Symantec could sell a tape migrator option for NetBackup .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:59 PM, WEAVER, Simon (external) simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net wrote: Anyone got any real world experience on buffer settings: scenarion: Win2k3 San Media, connected to 2GB Fabric attached 8 LTO4 Drives. Due to drive availability, Multiplexing onto one drive. Uggh. With LTO4 drives, your ideal situation would be ONE tape drive per 4Gbps HBA port if you're doing any sort of compression. If you can get 3:1 compression, you need to get 360MB/sec into your tape drive. With 2:1 compression, you'll have already over saturated a single LTO4 drive. Main problem: One volume (1,7tb in size) takes over 4 days to fully complete. On a compressed volume (as seen in other postings in this thread), you also burn a large amount of CPU to uncompress the data. With a standard file system backup, each file needs to be uncompressed by NTFS before NetBackup gets it. You then compress it at the tape drive. And you're obviously getting good compression or you wouldn't do this on the file system in the first place. So get back to my original point of not being able to drive the tape drive fast enough. You don't have just a buffer problem - it's actually the least of your problems. From another posting of yours: Cannot understand how we can recover a system is 2 days, when it takes double to backup completely! Recovery is typically longer than backup as well... Have also mixed with Multiplexing, and no joy! Multiplexing makes backups go faster but recoveries go slower. You need to focus on recoveries, not backups. The fastest recovery (from tape) will come from a fast media server and with multiplexing turned off. And turn off NTFS-based compression - to recover that data will mean either you restore to an uncompressed disk or the server is going to have to compress all that data again after it comes off of tape. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] old policies
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:14 PM, David McMullin david.mcmul...@cbc-companies.com wrote: My standard is to make a policy that never runs named ARCHIVED and put the clients there. If clients are not in a policy they do not show up in various lists, NB should scan the images directory for them but does not... One client per policy solves a lot of problems. You can then just deactivate the policy... Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Recommended FC array for D2D2T process
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM, mitch808 netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.comwrote: I've run into a lot of folks using either Promise FC arrays or NexSAN arrays. They are lowend boxes with RAID cards, that do nothing more than act like a JBOD. A NexSAN array is not a RAID card - our lower end SATABeast have dual-controllers, redundant 4Gbps fibre channel ports and iSCSI connectivity. We've got a half dozen of them. We don't like them much but that's a different issue. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup userORData Domain users
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.comwrote: I've just recently had a meeting with my Symantec rep, and we were led to believe that license cost and replication were NetBackup advantages. For example, I was under the impression that if you backed up 10TB of data weekly, but kept 100 deduped copies on 40TB of storage, that you only needed 10TB of license. Also, we were told NetBackup dedupe maintains replication to an offsite media server, and that you don't have to pay for that 40TB of storage either. Is this not the case? We haven't talked to Data Domain yet, but that licensing model looks like a serious advantage to Exagrid's $6,000 / TB. From the Licensing and Support Services Guide dated 1/19/2010: Licensing for the infrastructure component, NetBackup PureDisk Deduplication Option, is based on the amount of front-end data to be protected on source systems (front-end terabyte). If a media server is used as part of the configuration, a NetBackup Enterprise Server or NetBackup Server license is required. * A front-end terabyte is defined as the aggregate amount of data on the client machines measured as the current largest aggregate full. Note that we are measuring the actual data to be protected, not the capacity of storage on which it resides or the aggregate amount of data backed up to disk. * e.g., a system with a 500GB hard drive holding 50GB of data to be protected would be measured as 50GB of Front End capacity. * Note that you should also factor a growth rate into Front-End capacity estimate (e.g., 50GB of data today – estimated growth of 20% a year (10 additional GBs by the end of the year) = 60 GB of front -end data to protect over the next year. Determining License Quantities * You will need the following information to determine license quantities * Number of servers / systems to be protected * Number of applications / databases and tier of machine on which each one runs * Amount of front-end terabytes to be protected * Estimated growth rate in source data The US MSRP for the NetBackup Duplication Option is $4,995 per 1 Front End TB or $1,750 per 250 Front End GB. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup user OR Data Domain users
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Alley, Chris cal...@kforce.com wrote: We are looking to change our backups to a disk based deduplication solution, and 2 of our options are to utilize NetBackup 7.0’s built in dedupe (Client and Media server) or to put a Data Domain box in. I wanted to see if I could get some real world feedback on what you guys have been seeing in terms of dedupe rates, performance, etc. For example Data Domain claims we would only see about 5:1 dedupe rate using NetBackup, which seems quite a bit lower than what I would expect….and of course they claim they would get about 20:1. I realize that all data is different, which is why I have hopes that several people will reply with what they are seeing. Thanks for your time! De-dupe ratios depend on a LOT of things with the primary one being how many generations of backups you're keeping. Assuming the data changes very, very little: If you have a weekly full and keep them for 5 weeks, you'll get your 5:1 ratio. If you do a semi-annual full and keep 2 copies, you'll get a 2:1 ratio. If you do a weekly full and keep them for a year, you'll get a 52:1 ratio. If the data changes a lot and you end up with random data every day, your de-dupe ratio will likely suck. We work with a lot of TIFF images here and get lousy de-dupe ratios. We've got some data where we get excellent de-dupe and a lot of data where we get close to zero de-dupe. The vendors all price their products assuming a high de-dupe ratio with the assumption that de-duping your data is cheaper than buying disk. For some data sets, that's actually a poor assumption. Symantec offers optimized synthentics in conjunction with their de-dupe. Don't rule this out as a very worthwhile benefit - imagine a single full and then incrementals for life... Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] watching a running job (part 2)
Lots and lots of little files will kill you. DSSUs won't speed the job up - after all, your disk is unlikely to be faster than your LOT4 - but will prevent tying up a tape drive for as long. You may also try to specify the exact mount points you want backed up instead of using the exclude list to avoid that ugly CIFS/NFS mount point so you're not walking the directory tree down a network path. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.comwrote: So moving on to the next problem server, while trying to backup the Master server its self (RHEL, NBU 5.1MP6) using ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and an exclude file, the job has taken 20+ hours to finish two days in a row. Looking at bpimmedia and adding up all the KB it looks like it's doing about 232GB total. I check bplist and I don't see any unexpected directories in the list. How could 230GB take 20 hours on LTO4? Available tape hasn't been an issue. Today I have it going to DSSU to see if its any faster. Other thoughts? On 08/17/2010 10:36 AM, Nate Sanders wrote: The job was for a Linux system and it appears what happened was this is one of our weird loopback mounts. The CIFS share is mapping to an NFS share that's shared via the localhost. Apparently Netbackup thought this was a local drive even though its CIFS resharing NFS. Turns out there was a missing exclude file for this single node excluding that path. On 08/16/2010 04:58 PM, Ed Wilts wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.com mailto:sande...@dmotorworks.com wrote: the specified policy does not exist in the configuration database (230) You were supposed to substitute your policy name, not use my template :-). The job shouldn't be running if there isn't an associated policy. ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES can't be backing up CIFS shares since user SYSTEM shouldn't even map to those shares. Is this a Windows system with a Windows policy or a Unix system doing an smbmount? .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.orgmailto:ewi...@ewilts.org [http://www.images.wisestamp.com/linkedin.png]Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts -- Nate SandersDigital Motorworks System Administrator (512) 692 - 1038 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Need to find out which media server is backing up which client...
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Joseph Despres jdesp...@csc.com wrote: Looks like I opened my mouth and stuck my foot in it. bperror doesn't look back 1 week... It can but the default is 3 days I think. For longer-term reporting, look at OpsCenter or a 3rd party reporting tool. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Need to find out which media server is backing up which client...
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Joseph Despres jdesp...@csc.com wrote: Other than using bpdbjobs What's a good way to find out which media server is backing up which client? A client can be backed up by multiple media servers - it depends on the policy. So start with a bpcoverage for the client name, look at each of the policies for that client, and then each schedule within that policy to find the storage units. Given the storage unit, you can then track down the media server - or more than one media server if you do stuff like media server load balancing. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] windows 2008 cluster backups
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:05 PM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote: Need a little info from a windows person on cluster backups. With 2003 if we did a cluster backup you did Physical-1 - C:\ and System state Physical-2 - C:\ and System State Virtual-3 - All resources that belong to the virtual And maybe a Virtual-4 and all of its resources. Now with 2008 - while I was on PTO someone else put in a new clustered server for backups, but did not follow the above method. Instead they did Physical-1 - All Local Drives Physical-2 - All Local Drives --- Now the part that surprised me is that Physical-1 got all the Resources plus the C and SS And Physical-2 just go the C and SS - My question - Is it still (for 2008 servers) correct to set up a clustered server backup getting both the physical and virtual server names. Or does it work correctly just doing all local drives on the physical names? What the new person did works but is wrong. Your virtual resources are being backed up by physical1. When the resources migrate to physical2, they'll automatically get full backups. At restore time, you have to figure out which node the resources were on by searching the backups for both physical1 and physical2 and piecing together your restore recovery. In addition, you should be seeing status 71 errors for the backups of the resources on physical2 because the disks are seen by bpmount but can't be backed up. NetBackup makes no attempt to figure out what virtual servers have what resources. It's why I continue to claim that NBU *tolerates* active/passive clusters but doesn't really *support* them. The same holds true of Veritas clusters. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Sudden DSSU Flush problems
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.comwrote: - 4 luns coming off a NetApp 6080 to the RHEL Master NBU 5.1MP6 server (dssu1,2,3,4) - all DSSU's 700GB - dssu3/4 in a group for Oracle RMAN Archive logs All of a sudden this week we're seeing the disk staging flush (relocate to final destination) jobs taking 2x-3x as long as they should. Lately we've been having a lot of 84 (media write errors, which in 5.1 on DSSU means it's full) errors on DSSU 1 which stores OS backups. I kept trying to work with the schedule but it seemed whether it was 4hrs or 6hrs it would always error out about %50 of the clients Status 84 could also mean you have hardware problems - I've certainly seen this before with flaky fibre paths. Have you checked the OS server logs or done non-NetBackup read/write tests to prove the hardware is really operating as it should be? What happens if you try and tar up the files and send them to the null device - do they go as fast as they should or are they slow too? .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Private branch
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:00 AM, ccosta@gmail.com wrote: How do you restart the private branch service? Symantec support site is down The support site is down but Google isn't :-) http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:6-4-FJNW3zAJ:seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/279381.htmcd=1hl=enct=clnkgl=us Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com wrote: Good Morning, My understanding is that the netapp on disk is keeping track of changed blocks, but that backup software that is written the backup to tape understands files. So the backup software is reading the whole file including both the unchanged blocks and the changed blocks and writing them to tape. The netapp is using the old unix dump command to read the files and write them to tape. Netbackup adds its header files to the backup stream. Other thensoftware such as snap mirror or snap vault I do not believe that the netapp have an api for only passing the changed blocks to the backup software. One could wonder if this will change with the new world of dedupe. Just imagine how ugly your restores could get if you only backed up the changed blocks. If you update block 1 on day 1, block 2 on day 2, block 3 on day 3 and then restore, you'd need all 3 incrementals. With file-based incrementals, you only need the last one. If you're backing up to disk, the first option isn't so bad. With backups to tape, this would be horrible. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com wrote: With the new backup support for what was called pure disk the backup data is going to disk and only the changed blocks. But if I understand things the netapp would have to have code installed on it that would understand the pure disk api. What Symantec is actually recommending now is to use a traditional Unix or Windows client and NFS-mount or CIFS-mount the data. Then do your normal backups to a PureDisk storage unit and do continuous incrementals and synthetic fulls. With the new PD code, a synthetic full only does pointer changes so they got like a bat out of... As an extra bonus, because you're using a non-NDMP client, you can restore the file to anywhere, not just the same NDMP type of host that you started from. As a double-added bonus, a Unix or Windows license (list $2,595 to $6,095 for x86/x64 clients) is a LOT cheaper than an NDMP license, especially if you a have big filer (list $3,500 to $15,500). The de-dupe option is VERY pricey though at $5k per front-end TB (MSRP). In our environment, we're about 180TB of used space at the moment. The list price of backup it all up with de-dupe would top a million bucks with the media servers and the de-dupe licenses. And that doesn't include the disk to put it to. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6-7 upgrade
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:46 PM, David McWilliams davidk...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone know of any upgrade guides kicking around? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/332137.htm Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.comwrote: We get poor performance (4MB/sec) performance running NFS mounts on our FAS 2040, but we’ve found we can run many simultaneous streams and get that into the 20+MB/sec range. We’ve got one Sun device we run 16 simultaneous NFS streams on that pushes 30MB/sec. Have you tried hitting multiple mounts with individual streams at the same time to get better CIFS performance? We did some testing of VMware accessing our FAS3140 via NFS and benchmarked a guest at 340MB/sec over port-channeled 10GigE connections using jumbo frames. And that was to 1 head in the 3140 cluster. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Server getting reboot everytime the backup runs.
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:08 PM, pranav batra pranav_vent...@hotmail.comwrote: Our two cluster servers gets reboot every time the backup runs. OS:-Windows 2003. Netbackup client:- 6.5.4 What could be the possible issues? You have a misconfigured or broken server. Check the event logs and contact Microsoft if you can't figure it out. This is NOT a NetBackup problem. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to implement a 24 hour RPO with a traditional backup system.
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Dean dean.de...@gmail.com wrote: Silver is 24 hours. The large majority of our backup clients fall into this category. Silver class is all based on tape backup/recovery. It's the traditional overnight backup to tape (or disk, VTL, whatever) fulls on the weekend, incrementals on weeknights. But one of our clients has questioned this worst-case 24 hour RPO, and their query is quite valid. Here is an example: There is a system with 24 hour RPO that we backup every night at 6PM. The backup takes one hour. So, if a disaster occurs at 6:59 PM, before tonight's backup completes, we have to restore from the previous night's backup. But, really, that backup is only consistent as of 6PM the previous night, when the backup *started*. That means our worst case RPO is actually 25 hours. I know this can be fixed with disk mirroring, but I'm looking for ways around this using purely traditional tape based (or disk) backup. If we're going to mirror all these systems, we'd be effectively moving them all to the Platinum DR class, and the customer is not willing to pay for that. To do it with a traditional daily backup regime, we'd have to ensure that each day's backup completed less than 24 hours before the previous day's backup started, which means the backup window would constantly rotate throughout the day. Obviously that's not realistic. The easy solution is to adjust the SLA to say that the RPO is 24 hours, plus the elapsed time of your backup, but the customer will not accept that. We could also do something like running two backups a day, but obviously that will double the resources we need for our backup infrastructure, and I don't think the customer would be happy with all their servers grinding to a halt when the backups kick off in the middle of the day. It's really the customer's choice - they can't have it both ways. What you can do is reduce the likelihood of it happening, but you obviously can't avoid it as you've already discovered. In most cases, your recovery point will be less than 24 hours - in fact, on average, your recovery point is about 12 hours if you're doing backups every 24 hours. I'd also guess that your backups for a particular client doesn't run at exactly the same time every day. The backup window can open at 6pm for a lot of clients and some will run at 6 but some may not actually start until later in the window. It could be 6pm one day and 10pm the next. If your tape drive is in the same location as the data, your RPO is actually much worse since a single event could destroy the tape and the disk at the same time. A tape that you write every day at the beginning of a 6pm backup window and doesn't go offsite until 9am the next morning gives you a maximum RPO of 24+15 = 39 hours. Yeah, it's ugly, and I'm guessing you will change the definition of silver to simply be to restore from the last successful tape backup and that backups are attempted approximately every 24 hours. As you've said, customers do have the ability to bump themselves up to a better RPO. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Nbu 7.0
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Lightner, Jeff jlight...@water.com wrote: As to not running on CentOS – The only thing I know of off the top of my head that blows up on install is Oracle products but that is simply because they put a routine in that tells it which OSes they’re allowed to run on. I'm a long-time Linux admin - my RHCE goes back to 2004 - and have seen HP products fail to install and heard from our NetApp SE that at least one of their products won't install either. Yeah, you can hack both to make them work. I’d disagree with what you say about the release cycle of CentOS – since its releases are tied to RHEL’s it has the same release cycle (delayed somewhat). There are no guarantees with CentOS. They take the published sources and recompile them, sometimes with different options, are known to install different libraries, and they do not necessarily using the same compilers and options that Red Hat uses to build RHEL. As I said before, it's highly likely you can make it work. But when you're dropping tens to hundreds of thousands of bucks for your NBU licenses, server hardware, and backup hardware and media, saving a grand over 3 years doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If you spend more than 3 or 4 days over 3 years trying to decide if you have a CentOS-specific issue or have to research specific patches in CentOS vs RHEL, you've blow away all of your savings. And yes, I spent a bunch of hours trying to simply get a client release installed way back when because of libraries that were installed by default on RHEL weren't installed by default on CentOS. If you have a lot of systems, you can potentially save a lot of money running CentOS instead of buying a RHEL subscription especially if there's a lot of commonality amongst them. The odds are high that you'll have only 1 or 2 master servers. I can make a lot more money for my company solving hard problems than researching stupid one-off issues in a release that the vendor won't even support. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] command to figure out size of all backups in a given period
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:25 AM, ddobek netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.comwrote: I am using NBU 6.0 on a unix mst/media server, and i need to find out the size of all backups in a given week. I need to request disk size to have backups written to, as we change from using tape to disk for storage. i can use either the gui or command line, CLI is my preference is there is a command to find this info. thanks for the help. This can be not so hard to really hard. If you need the size for the backups for images that are still active, then Heathe already posted the answer. If you need the sizes for images that have since expired, then NetBackup doesn't know about them any more and you need an extra-cost reporting tool like OpsCenter Analytics (for NetBackup 7 and up) or Aptare StorageConsole (my favorite). For example, say you're doing daily incrementals with a 2-week retention, weekly fulls that you keep for a month, and monthly backups that you keep for a year. The catalog will have the sizes of all of your backups for the last 2 weeks. NetBackup no longer knows about the incrementals that happened 3 weeks ago but knows about the weekly and monthly fulls. If you want to know what happened 3 months ago, you'll get a picture of the monthly fulls but nothing about the daily or weekly backups. If you do purchase a reporting tool, remember that just buying it won't give you the picture of what happened 6 months ago. You'll get good trending history going forward. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Maintenance Mode
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Donaldson, Mark mark.donald...@staples.com wrote: In the past, if a client was down due to maintenance during a backup, I just closed the ticket. Using DP on their side, they've got a method to put a backup client into maintenance mode before the backup and take it out after. Yesterday I tried setting max jobs per client to zero for a client but that didn't work. 0 in max jobs means not defined, not zero. The only way I can think is to either: make one policy per client and deactivate the policy - which I don't want to do, or write a script to pull the client from its policies and then add it back in 24 hours with an at job. Not impossible, just kludgy. It's actually not kludgy - just different. There are some of who really like this approach and I'm one of them. Not only do you get to de-activate the client temporarily but you can automatically have it come back (set the Go into effect at: date/time) and it's a lot easier to script adding new clients. In NetBackup 7.0.1, Symantec introduced a client offline feature that allows you to put the client in maintenance mode. I don't know how that really works yet. I'm going to guess that since clusters are tolerated but not really supported that this feature is not going to work very well for clusters either (or other hosts with virtual server names). .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tarr'ed up /tmp/bp dir doesn't seem to work anymore...
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Joseph Despres jdesp...@csc.com wrote: For 5.1 I was able to create tar files for each type of client by pushing out the client to a dummy host and tar up ::--- /tmp/bp I handed these files over to the line of services who support the OS hardware... They just dump the tar file on a host and run the following command ::--- sh /tmp/bp/bin/client_config Then edit the bp.conf to match the env. And wa-la done... But alas I must be doing something wrong! This same method isn't working for 6.5.4. When the tar files are uses we get the following error ::--- /tmp/bp/client_config File /tmp/bp/bin_net.tar and/or /tmp/bp/bin.tar.Z is missing on cscecmndc801. Cannot complete the client install. client_config_failed If I can't use this method. which method can I use? We still use this method with 6.5.4. I haven't tested it on anything other than RHEL but it's working fine for us. Here's what my RHEL tarball looks like: [uxad...@stp-admin netbackup]$ tar ztf rhel2.6-netbackup-6.5.4.tgz bp.22354/ bp.22354/bin_net.tar bp.22354/client_config bp.22354/java/ bp.22354/java/nbj.conf bp.22354/java/extract_java bp.22354/java/NB-Java.tar.Z bp.22354/java/JRE.tar.Z bp.22354/bin.tar.Z bp.22354/move_libs bp.22354/tar bp.22354/version bp.22354/.sizes .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts Thanks.. Joe Despres* Backup Engineer* CSC 3521 Ribcowski Ct Raleigh, NC 27616 GIS | (o): 1.919.266.1799 | (c): 1.919.931.9674 | jdesp...@csc.com | * *www.csc.com* **https://c3.csc.com/groups/netback* https://c3.csc.com/groups/netback This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Nbu 7.0
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Lightner, Jeff jlight...@water.com wrote: CentOS is compiled from RHEL source and is intended to have full binary compatibility with RHEL. Intended - yes In practice - mostly There are cases out there where applications intended to run on a RHEL distro will not install without modifications. The distributions, although based on the same sources, are not the same. There are applications out there TODAY that won't install or run correctly on CentOS but will install and run correctly on RHEL. RHEL is not self-hosting - in other words, it's possible that the binaries you get can not be built with the sources you get. That's happened in the past due to compiler bugs but I haven't heard of it happening lately. CentOS, as a client, is supported by Symantec according to the current compatibility list at ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/337048.pdf. It's not supported as a master or media server. We don't know if it's because they tested it and it failed, or if they tested it, it worked but they don't want to support it, or they simply didn't test it. In general, I would expect that you could make a NBU 7 master install on CentOS and it would likely work. It will not be supported by anybody. Depending on the tier of the hardware that you're running the master server on, the list price for the x86-based Linux master/media runs from $5K to $12K and that doesn't cover any clients or options nor the backup hardware or media. A RHEL subscription can be had for $349 per year. My personal opinion is that the $349 per year should not break the business case. .../Ed Disclaimer: I'm a Red Hat Certified Engineer so I obviously have some bias to go along with my experience. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Staging off Virtual Tape Library
We do have Vaulting license. It is however not set up at all, and I have never touched it yet. (Im still new). What I do know about Vaulting is that it will take the last Full backup images and copy them (probably with an extended retention) to a set of unused tapes and optionally eject them for offsite storage. OK, you're wrong on that :-). Vault can take any image - whether a full or an incremental and get them ready for ejection. It can duplicate them or not - your choice. We take our tapes as they are and eject them every day for shipment offsite. We don't duplicate them. .../Ed Ed Wilts Mounds View, MN ewi...@ewilts.org ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Staging off Virtual Tape Library
What's the point of Vault then? This all seems very easy to setup with base Netbackup :) Vault was originally a project done by the Veritas Professional Services organization. There's nothing in there you can't do with a lot of scripting. The point of Vault is you don't have to script it all like doing the duplications, managing the ejects and injects, updating the EMM database with the location of your tapes, FTPing reports to Iron Mounting, etc. If you think what you need to do is easy (and you may not use all of Vault's features), and are willing to support it yourself and can do so for less cost than Symantec wants to charge you, go ahead and script it. Ed Wilts Mounds View, MN ewi...@ewilts.org ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7 Opscenter
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:23 AM, ansa netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.comwrote: We trying to use Opscenter for reports, but its seams as if its a little buggy.the polling agents stops working sometimes and we have never had an last successfull data load anybody got some ideas ?. http://www.aptare.com :-) Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Performance tuning Windows 2008 client
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM, jack.fores...@mylan.com wrote: We're observing some significant performance issues with some of our Windows 2008 SP2 clients. Backing up to a DD880 VTL, one client in particular is running at just over 300KB/sec. Others are running 2-3MB/sec. The clients in question are all virtual machines running on VMWare ESX 3.5.0 238493. Our Windows 2008 clients running on bare metal are performing well. Our NetBackup environment is version 6.5.3 on the master/media server and the client. We've tried tuning the net buffer size, but that made no difference. Are there other things we can try? Do these contain lots and lots of little files? If so, have you considered FlashBackup? Do you have enough memory on these guests. We've seen some issues where one of our VMware admins decided to give all of the new guests VERY little memory, forgetting that after he provisioned the guest he was supposed to increase it to a reasonable size. If you do network exerciser from the guest to the media server, what sort of performance do you get? For example, have you tried something like an FTP or a simple file copy directly from the guest to the media server? .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts We have a case open with Symantec, but I thought I'd check here to see if anyone else has run into this issue. -- Jack Forester, Jr. Sr. Data Protection Administrator Global Technology Services - AHS Mylan, Inc. 5005 Greenbag Road Morgantown, WV 26501 jack.fores...@mylan.com Phone: +1.304.554.6039 Cell: +1.412.805.5313 == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Staging Flush
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.comwrote: NBU Ver: 5.1MP6 Why is it that even after a DSSU flush and no other running jobs, the file system still shows up as %100 usage from a Linux server? Several reasons. First, there were lots of bugs in the DSSU code back in 5.1. If you can, you really should upgrade. Secondly, until another job requires the space, the existing images on disk won't get deleted until they expire. If another job starts up, does the space get deleted? Have you checked for orphan images on disk? i.e. images on disk that aren't in the catalog? That was a common bug and required a manual cleanup. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Destaging going slow
From a storage perspective, I've got all disks in a Dell MD1000 enclosure configured in a single 15 disk RAID-5. Don't ever do this. Jonathan has obviously gotten away with this (so far) but using large drives (e.g. 1TB) in a 15-member RAID-5 set is just asking to lose the array due to a double-disk failure. I've done several recoveries for our Windows Server Team because they're configured large RAID-5 sets and had double-disk failures. ../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Destaging going slow
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:19 PM, WALLEBROEK Bart bart.wallebr...@swift.com wrote: Even when we fully format the DSSU disk and we then run 1 backup job to this disk and directly afterwards we duplicate it to tape we get these speeds (35-40MB/sec). So at that time no fragmentation at all is involved. We saw the same thing. Again, a dd of the file to tape went fast. A destage of the same file to the same tape drive went slow. This was repeatable on multiple Solaris and Windows servers. It's not a disk subsystem configuration or load issue. If it was fragmentation or a raid configuration issue, the dd should also have been slow. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] More vStorage w/ NBU 7 Observations...
2010/6/24 Ed Wilts ewi...@ewilts.org 2010/6/24 Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabre...@gmail.com On Tuesday 22 June 2010 09:59:22 thomas.h...@sungard.com wrote: No surprise, there are some bugs in v7.0 pertaining to vStorage that will be addressed in v7.1 (due to be released in August 2010) Where can I check this August date (for 7.1) on the Symantec site? It's 7.0.1, aka Denali, not 7.1 The FA (First Availability) program was just announced: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/356785.htm .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] More vStorage w/ NBU 7 Observations...
2010/6/24 Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabre...@gmail.com On Tuesday 22 June 2010 09:59:22 thomas.h...@sungard.com wrote: No surprise, there are some bugs in v7.0 pertaining to vStorage that will be addressed in v7.1 (due to be released in August 2010) Where can I check this August date (for 7.1) on the Symantec site? It's 7.0.1, aka Denali, not 7.1 The date is certainly not official. I just spotted an etrack article that said NetBackup 7.0 Release Update 1 (7.0.1), currently targeted for release in the third quarter of 2010 Note that it says targeted. Dates aren't always met. Bookmark this page: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/overview.jsp?pid=15143 And this page: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/NBUESVR_digest.htm .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Destaging going slow
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:22 AM, WALLEBROEK Bart bart.wallebr...@swift.comwrote: We have a couple of windows (dedicated) Media Servers that act as NetBackup DSSU (Disk Staging Storage Unit) servers with each having from 4 to 16 TB of SAN disks. Backing up to them is no issue and goes up to the limit of the network connected clients. Destaging to tape (LTO4) however is slow (20 - 35 MB/sec). We have been in contact with Symantec where they advised us to lower the fragment size, change the data buffers size and numbers but we seem to get stuck to the current speed. Backing up data from this DSSU disk to the tape drives goes up to physical tape speed limitation. Does anyone have an idea where to look further to get to a reasonable speed ? We currently are testing a Solaris DSSU server but we do not have numbers for that one. We had this same issue escalated within Symantec and never did find the problem. We had no such restrictions writing from the media servers directly to the tape drives, even when going from the DSSU locations - i.e. dd went at full speed but a destage would go slow. reading the same file that dd read. We're also mostly Solaris but our Windows media server also saw the same performance degradation. We're located close to the NBU developers so we had NetBackup engineers on site doing investigating and benchmarking. We duplicated the problems for them but they were unable to find any issues with the destaging code. We eventually gave up on using DSSUs for the majority of our backups because the performance hit was unacceptable. If you find a solution, I'd really, really like to hear about it. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and Millions of Files
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Bahadir Kiziltan bahadir.kizil...@gmail.com wrote: Try NetApp NDMP streamer, which allows you to leverage the deduplication in NDMP backups. You need at least PureDisk 6.6.x + NBU 6.5.4 with EEB. The PureDisk requirement is the killer. I've got several 20TB applications with hundreds of millions of files. Purchasing PureDisk licenses for that much data is prohibitively expensive. As long as Symantec insists on a per-TB license for PureDisk, we will continue to make as little use of it as we can. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:58 PM, ccosta@gmail.com wrote: Good news is that with 7.01 coming out in a month or so will allow NBU to multi-stream NDMP data to a single tape drive. This will/may alleviate some of the performance issues many of you experience each day. However I am not sure of any limitations of this feature patch may have. Chris Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ambrose, Monte mambr...@qualcomm.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:38:41 To: Jonathan Dyckjd...@bank-banque-canada.ca; Jeff Cleverley jeff.clever...@avagotech.com; rusty.ma...@sungard.com rusty.ma...@sungard.com Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduveritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and Millions of Files You could also use NetBackups Snap Mirror to tape. You would need a NetApp snap mirror license. The Pros It uses snapmirror and sends the data off to tape. It is a RAW volume backup and is extremely fast - 10X in many cases. It can be fully configured in NetBackup The Cons It backs up the entire volume - so if you have a 1TB volume and only 400GB are used it will backup 1tb You cant restore a single file or dir. You have to restore the entire thing. You cant mix with incremental backups. Monte -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Dyck Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:21 AM To: Jeff Cleverley; rusty.ma...@sungard.com Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and Millions of Files We do our NetApp backups (old GF940 metro cluster) with a combination of snapshots (which are available at both sites) and NDMP here. Our NDMP obviously holds all the long retention data. The data size isn't huge compared to some (6.5TB, ~40M files), but we've had to resort to multiple policies and multi-streaming to back it up in a reasonable amount of time (less than 60 hours for a full on the wknd). The way it works is: PolicyA (vol1): explicitly lists 37 different paths for the backup selection list, we've empirically determined these are the smaller folders PolicyB (vol1-long): explicitly lists 16 paths for the backup selection list, we've determined these are the large folders PolicyC (vol1-Catch-missed-directory): we've mounted the root of vol1 on a Linux host, and we back it up via NFS, excluding the 37+16 paths defined above. If this policy's full backup every gets too large (over 10GB or so), we review the contents and add new paths to PolicyA or PolicyB as necessary. This is necessary because you can't specify wildcards on NDMP backups (discussed in this forum several times I believe). We repeat the above process for vol2. The above backup data sits on a deduped VTL for 2 months, and then the data that is held longer than that is duplicated to tape for long-term storage and expired off the VTL. As we run 5 streams concurrently, the throughput is decent, but we peg out the CPU on the NetApp frequently during the backup window, which is a concern. HTH... Jon -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Cleverley Sent: June 14, 2010 5:57 PM To: rusty.ma...@sungard.com Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and Millions of Files Rusty, If you have a way to use Snapvault to backup to another location, I would use it. We have a number of file systems like what you have. I tried NDMP over TCP and NFS backups using dedicated snapshots mounted on a client. Both used a dedicated 10G network. We basically overran our 6030 filer. We could have jumped through a lot of hoops and split backups over multiple weekends, etc, but we decided it wasn't worth it. I haven't tried Flash Backup for a while but it didn't really buy us much on what we tried to do with it. It may work better now. We backup everything (~200 TB) to NearStores in another building. We use SnapVault instead of SnapMirror. We can still revert our destination volumes to primary r/w file systems if we need to. We don't have the requirement to send tapes off site. If you do, you could still make
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Celera Backup Question
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Jimenez, Daniel daniel.jime...@owb.comwrote: Spencer Thanks for the response, we are aware of the documentation, we are just looking to see if anyone has figured out a way around it. One way around it is to not use NDMP but mount the shares up to a Windows server and do a traditional Windows backup. /Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Exec NetBackup Combination
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Adrian Soetanto adrian.soeta...@bentoel.co.id wrote: Is it possible to backup using Backup Exec (version 12) and then restore it using NetBackup (version 6.5)? http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/295433.htm .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Large Full schedule, DSSU and Shoe Shinning
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Dean dean.de...@gmail.com wrote: Shoe shining is less of a problem with modern tape drives, as they have this speed matching which will slow the tape drive's throughput down to match, as closely as possibe, the speed that data is coming in from the host... The IBM LTO-4 drive has the new technology that matches dynamic speed at any of the 6 speeds of 30MB/sec, 48MB/sec, 66MB/sec, 84MB/sec, 103MB/sec, or 120MB/sec. This speed matching is done for the adjustment of native data speed of the tape drive as close as possible with the net data rate of the host. The host's net data speed is that which is achieved after the factoring out of data compressibility. In other words, you should be seeing about 60MB/sec from NetBackup (assuming 2:1 compression) to meet the minimum LTO-4 drive speed of 30MB/sec. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] isilon backup accelerator
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:43 AM, mitch808 netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.comwrote: However a better way, and cheaper way would be to just do a synthetic backup (ideally with dedupe) of the CIFS/NFS shares themselves. You dont have to buy the expensive accelerator head, you eliminate NDMP licenses, and you now are future proofing yourself on restores by backing up the raw shares, and not using NDMP with a proprietary data format. This seems to be a practice that Symantec is now promoting but there are certainly complications to this approach and cases where it simply won't work. Ideally with dedupe also depends on the data - we have a LOT of data that doesn't dedupe well at all and purchasing dedupe licenses would cost us a fortune with little to no gain. If you have a NetApp filer and are using MultiStore, you now need to use multiple media servers to back up the same data since they are likely in different security domains. This could be further complicate itself by the way you have your physical backup network cabled - you may need to add even more network interfaces to separate the backup network from the production front-side traffic and figure out how to those media servers access the data over those networks. Ff you have a NetApp filer (and there may be other NAS heads that have the same functionality) that have multiple security models on the same data, this approach simply will not work. We have some file systems that use both Unix and NTFS security so backing the data up using either CIFS or NFS will miss the rest of the security information. No approach is perfect so you have to decide what is going to work best in your environment. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] how fo fool nbu client versions
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:21 PM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: Heading off topic, but for the benefit of those who had a heart-attack thinking they were out of support with 5.1 clients as they ARE supported with NBU 6.x Master/Media servers. Change ARE to WERE. All of 5.1 has already reached end of support life so although the original combination was supported, it isn't any longer. That means it will very likely work but don't call Symantec if it doesn't. We've got another couple of years for 6.x though: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/332616.htm *scott.geo...@parker.com* Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 05/30/2010 01:03 AM To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] how fo fool nbu client versions I have tested this on some proprietary servers of my own, and the 5.1 client works with 7.0, although not supported. If you are running any 6.5.x with a 5.1 client, that isn't supported either, so no harm, no foul. From what I understand, the code base isn't that different from 6.5 to 7.0, and that is why it works. Actually, the UNIX code base from 6.5 to 7.0 is actually quite different since 32-bit OS releases were dropped and 64-bit was added. I asked one of the developers how much actually had to change for 64-bit and he said it was a lot more than you would expect. A lot of very old legacy code was tossed and replaced with current code. Interestingly enough, I haven't heard of any 7.0 Unix client issues related to the 64-bit upgrades. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VSP versus VSS
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:12 AM, pranav batra pranav_vent...@hotmail.comwrote: I have a small question on VSP/VSS. As symantec recommends VSS for 2003 clients over VSP then why it is the defauly snap-shot provider option ? It's historical and is no longer the default in NetBackup 7.0. Any specific reason for this recommendation as i can't find any tech note specifying why VSS: They all just explain that VSS is for 2003 and VSP for 2000. I agree but why? Windows 2000 did not have a snapshot service provided by the operating system so Veritas had to write their own. Microsoft added it in Windows 2003. VSS has a HUGE advantage for the backup administrator because snapshots are now the responsibility of the server administrator, not the backup administrator. If snapshots fail, it's usually because the server administrator doesn't have something configured correctly or the admins have neglected to install patches to VSS (there are some but some Windows admins seem to install ONLY security patches and ignore all reliability/functionality fixes). What happened two weeks ago:-There are our two cluster server and both got hung while getting backed up. We are still looking for the root cause but couldn't find yet...The thing we suspect is that they were using VSP and when we changed snapshot provider to VSS( As they are 2003) ,backups and server both running fine from 2 weeks and didn't hung once. Does VSP plays some part in making the server hung? What could be the possible reasons? Does VSP plays some part in making the CPU utilisation high? VSP is evil. Don't try and debug it - just quit using it. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Incorrect File List being Built
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Shekel Tal tal.she...@uk.fujitsu.comwrote: The first backup run used the wildcard and detected each subdirectory and ran a separate stream. When new sub directories are added they are not detected by the wildcard discovery – the directories which existed at the time the first back ran are the only ones which jobs are created for. If I create a new policy and specify E:\Folder1\* - NetBackup will then detect all the subdirectories and kick off a job for each one. Its almost as if the file list is being cached somewhere and not being rediscovered for each scheduled backup. What I think you're running into is the frequency of the pre-discovery process. man bpgetconfig and look at the -prep settings. -prep hours The preprocessing interval. This interval is the minimum time in hours between client queries to discover new paths when NetBackup uses auto- discover-streaming mode. For additional informa- tion, see Setting the Preprocess Interval for Auto Discovery in the File-List Directives for Multiple Data Streams intheNetBackup Administrator's Guide. The default Preprocess Interval value is 4 hours. If the preprocessing interval changes, change it back to the default by specifying -prep -1. The preprocessing interval can be set to prepro- cess immediately by specifying 0 as the preprocess interval for auto discovery on the bpconfig com- mand line. The maximum Preprocessing Interval is 48 hours. This has existed for many releases - I found a reference to it in the NBU 5 Windows guide. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Media write error 84
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.comwrote: So I kicked off the unix_nightly policy during the day and all 16 hosts succeeded with no failures. Makes me wonder if the DSSU is being overloaded at night? An 84 on a DSSU is a physical disk error - somewhere in your transport chain or the raid controllers or disk drives, you're getting an error. I've seen it when a fibre ISL was being driven at 2Gbps when the distance and fibre type mandated that it only be run at 1Gbps - that took me a while to find. It can be bad RAID controller firmware. Check everything from beginning to end and see if you can narrow it down. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Storage Unit
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:02 AM, David Turner dtur...@manh.com wrote: I was hoping Data Domain would be a fit but they have yet to present a reasonably priced system. This would only make sense if you have a high-enough de-dupe rate (at least 10x) - otherwise just buying disk makes more sense. You could go with something like a Windows or Linux server with locally attached disk. Not ideal, but it's archive data, right? .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM, pranav batra pranav_vent...@hotmail.comwrote: We have pushed netbackup client from 6.5.4 master server in HP-UX(11.11) client. But the client verion is showing as 6.5 only. Why this? I didn't see any issue with the push:-Everything happened smooth. NetBackup can be really ornery when checking versions. Try this command: [r...@master ~]# bpgetconfig -s hpuxhost.bck.mrll.com -A -L Client/Master = Client of master.bck.mrll.com NetBackup Client Platform = HP9000-800, HP-UX11.11 NetBackup Client Protocol Level = 6.5.4 Product = NetBackup Version Name = 6.5 Version Number = 65 NetBackup Installation Path = /usr/openv/netbackup/bin Client OS/Release = HP-UX B.11.11 Cipher = Patch Level = 6.5.4 Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Retaining Date for 20 years+
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:20 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net wrote: I started to do work for a small firm that has been removing legacy old kit and media as its 15+ years out of date (example: PC's acting as Servers, DDS tape drives, 3M Data Cartridges, (mini ones too!! amnd legacy Unix systems. Now, what I was puzzled about is how would they go about restoring this Data?, considering most of the Technology has just been removed / phased out. It got me thinking that we have 5 - 10+ year retention of Tapes for NetBackup on LTO1 tapes but no means of loading it, you do not have high hopes of restoring it. Unless you obtain an LTO1 drive. But say 30 years down the line. then what! Chances are, NetBackup may not read it, or worse No NetBackup environment at all ! (Similar to the client who was using their own standard 1990's backup software that is no longer produced and in a format that cannot be read!) So really, curious how people would protect those essential years of Data? There are a lot of 3rd party companies that will gladly take your money to restore this data. I suspect they're not cheap for the obvious reason that they have to maintain this old crap, but that's the price you pay for restoring stuff you probably shouldn't have been backing up in the first place. Even if you get the data physically off of tape, can you actually do anything with it? Do you even know the name, for example, of the server that held your financial data 15 years ago? Even if you had that data, do have the hardware and software that can actually do anything with that data? Are the applications so old that they won't even run on modern hardware? Are the data formats so old that today's applications won't open them either? Backups are not archives, and you're seeing one of the many reasons why that's true. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange status 13 during bpstart script
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Dave Markham dave.mark...@fjserv.netwrote: What we've found out is that its the firewall between media and client which is cutting off this connection after 2 hours. The bpstart script is still running on the client but after the firewall tcp timeout of 2 hours its as though part of the connection (i'm thinking the bpbrm process) is terminated. There must be a way to sort this issue though if this is the chain :- Master --- Media --- [Firewall] --- Client when there are large bpstart jobs greater than Fw timeouts? Anyone any ideas? There are 3 somewhat obvious answers. 1. Change the settings on the firewall 2. Move the media server inside of the firewall 3. Write a bpstart script that doesn't take 2 hours to complete .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 and MSCS Cluster
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Costa netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.comwrote: We have a 3-node MSCS Cluster and at any given moment the 9 shares that the cluster is presenting can be located across the 3-nodes. Meaning that drives F, G, and H can be on node-1, drives I, J and K on node-2, and drives M, N and O on node-3. My question is if this situation is in place and we create a policy using the virtual name that the shares are being presented as will NBU be smart enough to backup these drives from these 3-nodes under the single virtual name? Yes it is. You'll create a policy, say vs1, for your F, G, and H drives, vs2 for I/J/K, and vs3 for M/N/O. You would also create policies for the physical host names that has the C: and Shadow Copy Components directives. HOWEVER, you can not control the number of backup jobs that can run on a single physical host. It will let you say that only 1 job can run on vs1, 1 on vs2, and 1 on vs3, but if for some reason all of the virtual servers end up on 1 physical host, you could be running one job from each one at the same time for a total of 4 backups (if you include C:). Additionally, you are responsible for telling NBU which drives are on which virtual server - you can't use the ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES any more. If you add a drive and forget to update your policies, you will miss data. Lastly, bpcoverage won't help you either since it has no way of knowing about the relationships between virtual servers and physical servers. NetBackup tolerates Windows clusters - it really doesn't support them as well as it should. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts Thank You in advance Chris C +-- |This was sent by ccosta@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] DC 48v disk storage
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Dustin Damour dust...@plateautel.comwrote: Is it common that Disk storage systems are able to use DC 48 volt power, or is this rare? If my memory is working today, DC 48v power is common in the telecom community but rare everywhere else. I would therefore expect that if you work with a reseller that sells into the telecom industry, they'd be expecting your queries. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VMware clients
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Victor Engle victor.en...@gmail.comwrote: Just wondered if anyone could discuss the best options for backing up VMs running on ESX 3.5 and 4.0 systems? What are the pros and cons and which methods allow for file level restores for the VM. My backup server is solaris. There are a ton of options. Start at http://www.symantec.com/business/support/overview.jsp?pid=15143, enter vmware backup, and review the results. The answers also change depending on what release of NetBackup you're on and what guests you're running. You can also google/goodsearch for vnetbackup vmware best practices. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Off Topic: Firmware and driver versions?
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Marianne Van Den Berg mvdb...@stortech.co.za wrote: In a big SSO environment with mixed O/S media servers attached to tape and disk (via different HBA’s) – who dictates what driver/firmware versions should be used on tape drives, hba’s, switches? The NBU hardware compatibility list is very basic and list ‘tested’ versions for tape drives, not recommended. As far as switches and HBA’s are concerned, the compatibility guide says: “Consult the hardware vendor's web site for up-to-date firmware and driver updates.” My viewpoint is that the tape vendor should supply all these compatibilities. I’d like to know how it’s done in your environment and who initiates the whole process… For tape drives, we rely on the opinion of our field service rep - whenever he's out here, we ask what's a recommended release for the drives and the library and schedule accordingly. I don't think we've seen specific firmware issues on the tape side. On the host side, to some extent we are starting to lose control, and that's not a bad thing. Multipathing software is coming out of the OS vendors (MPIO, DMP, etc.). Every now and then we go through and do a firmware/driver update but I don't think we've been the 100% supported/current in over 3 years (when we did a McData to Brocade switch migration). For the SAN switches, we upgrade the firmware when we get around to it. I'm a few releases behind but we can't upgrade continually or we'd be doing nothing else. If there's a bug that I've run into that I need to fix, then I'll bump the priority. It's always a fine juggling act between being current, supported, and meeting the business requirements, all the time balancing that with your available time. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN 11.2 and Netbackup bug
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.comwrote: A coworker is doing testing with RMAN/Oracle 11.2 and Netbackup 5.1MP6. She came across a bug that exists in NBU6.5 so I'm going to guess it exists in 5.1 as well. The bug is here: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/337527.htm -- I'm going to assume this is and will remain unfixed in 5.1 and is specific to Oracle 11.2 support, which doesn't sound like it exists even in 6.5 or 7 yet. I'm just trying to put together information for management. Patches are available for NBU 6.5.4 (and we're running them here) and 6.5.5. I would not be surprised if they're in 6.5.6 which was just released - you can check online if you're interested. If you re-read the article you posted, you'll see the links to the binaries for support in 6.5.4 and 6.5.5 there. The message to your management should be that you your NetBackup installation needs to be relatively close to the newest operating system or application release that it needs to support. If you want to run database agents on the new versions of the applications, whether it's Oracle, Exchange, or whatever, you're going to have keep NetBackup current. This isn't a case of NetBackup having bugs - it's the impossibility of supporting a release of an application that wasn't available at the time NetBackup was released. Oracle 11g R2 is fairly current. NetBackup 5.1 is 3 MAJOR revisions old and is well beyond its End Of Life. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU and Clustered MSCS fileserver, Flashbackup?
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Spellacy, Sean sean.spell...@viha.cawrote: I was hoping to use flashbackup to be able to pull them but I read in the documentation that flashbackup is not supported on clusters. From the 6.5.6 release notes: (ET2003460) Support for FlashBackup in a Microsoft Cluster (MSCS) environment Beginning in NetBackup 6.5 GA, the use of FlashBackup in a Microsoft Cluster (MSCS) environment is supported, with the following limitation: Raw partition restores can only be performed when the disk being restored is placed in extended maintenance mode or removed from the MSCS resource group. ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/341279.pdf Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts Is this true? This does not work or this is not supported? Is anyone using flashbackup on win clusters? So far I have broken these jobs down into multiple streams and that has bought me some ground, but I suspect the real issue here is the millions of files being parsed. I have also balanced to jobs across two media servers. Does anyone have any insights or opinions as to how I may be able to speed up these jobs. Thanks in advance SSS ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Architectural question (staging)
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.comwrote: I wouldn't take advice on this matter from someone who worked with disk staging units for at least a year and gave up. We worked extensively with Symantec on this issue. We were in regular contact with the customer focus team. They were onsite. We had engineering onsite. We went to their engineering offices a few miles down the road from us. We met with product management. Symantec was unable to solve the performance issues after well over a year of trying. Obviously your mileage will vary. I'm glad it works for some people - Symantec was unable to make it work for us. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Migration.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:13 PM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote: You want to go from a windows master to a Unix master…… ho boy! Been there…. Done that….. As have we - were successful back on NBU 3.4 going from Windows to Solaris. We changed host names while we were at it. If you want to bring your database with you, then yes, you will need to use Symantec services to do the migration… otherwise they will not support you… or so they told me. If you are able to successfully complete your upgrade, Symantec will support you after that. What they can't do is support you during the migration itself because there are a LOT of ways it can (and will) go wrong and these breakages are typically going to be well beyond 1st or 2nd level tech support. This is a very complex migration and I don't recall seeing any postings from anybody who has completed a cross-platform migration since NBU 6.x was released (which introduced EMM). Unless you have a very strong technical ability to hack binary files and a fairly good knowledge of NetBackup internals, I would recommend that you not do this without paying for Symantec (or 3rd party) professional services. It's doable but it's HARD. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Changing backup retention periods
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Mark Glazerman mark.glazer...@spartech.com wrote: We’ve had a request to extend the retention period on backups from one of our hosts so that data needed for some troubleshooting won’t expire before it can be used. Currently the retention period for this data is 1 week. If I change the retention period in the policy that backed up this data to 2 weeks, will this change be applied to both future and past backups handled by this policy ? You need to change the expiration of the images that are already written - changing the policy won't do anything for you. Use bpexpdate to change the expiration date of existing images. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Architectural question (staging)
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Victor Engle victor.en...@gmail.comwrote: Just wanted to get some opinions about whether disk staging units are worthwhile. My backup server has two BasicDisk staging units with the storage units configured such that the data goes to disk and is then moved to tape. I have a tape library with four LTO-3 drives connected via FC. So what I'm wondering is, since the LTO drives are reasonably fast, and since I'm writing the data ultimately to tape anyway, would it be better to just write directly to tape. The disk is just old fashioned spinning disk with no de-duplication so there are operational costs for the disks. All tape and disk storage units are local to the backup server. I'm thinking it would be better to add LTO drives and eliminate the disk for now and maybe later add a de-duplicating disk unit. We worked with disk staging units for at least a year before we mostly gave up. The biggest challenge we ran into was that destaging was too slow. Even though we proved to Symantec that we could read from those disk drives at over 100MB/sec, we could never destage even half that fast. We had an open case with Symantec for a VERY long time before we agreed that it wasn't going to get fixed. Under what circumstances does it make sense to stage data on disk. I would appreciate hearing what your thoughts and experiences are with regard to disk staging. There are times when DSSUs make sense. 1. If you don't have a tape drive free but want to do a backup anyway - we still use DSSUs for things like small backups of Oracle archive logs. 2. If you need to throttle your backups, especially across things like a bunch of virtual servers on the same physical server. NBU only allows you to set the maximum jobs per client name, not per client. DSSUs make an acceptable choke point for clusters. 3. If you have small backups, but don't have a lot of them at once, multiplexing may not buy you enough performance boosts. Use DSSUs to write those little jobs to disk and then destage them at once. If you currently multiplex, realize that your restores are going to be slower than if you don't multiplex. All tapes created from a DSSU destage are non-multiplexed so your restores can go faster. DSSUs also give you a staging area for restores. If your tapes go offsite, you may still be able to do a restore from the staging unit the next day (or longer) depending on how big your stagig units are. NBU is smart enough to realize that if the same data is on both disk and tape and you kick off a restore, the restore will automatically come from disk. In general, I'd say that there is a place for DSSUs but it's not the great benefit we thought it was going to be. .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Jobs Que up but will not Start
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:51 AM, McDonald II, James F. james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com wrote: Which client works with Red Hat Linux? Is there a different Linux client for a 64-bit install? For NetBackup 6.x and earlier, all RHEL clients are 32-bit although they will install and run on 64-bit RHEL. For NetBackup 7.x, *only* 64-bit clients are available although you can use on a 6.x 32-bit client with a 7.x master/media server. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Purging hosts from Symantec OpsCenter
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:34 AM, nez netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.comwrote: We've been running Symantec OpsCenter for some time now and we see dead clients in OpsCenter. We have 96 unique clients, OpsCenter however shows 140 unique clients. Most of the false clients are old clients, servers which we've deleted for some time now, some are existing clients but with the domain suffix added to the hostname. In OpsCenter I can easily recognise them when I go to: Monitor Hosts Client the dead clients have the value - in OS Type and Hardware All these clients have been properly removed from policies and host properties in the NetBackup Java Administration Console. There is no trace of them there, but they appear to remain forever in OpsCenter which is sabotaging our reports as filtering hosts in reports is becoming more time consuming. Do you still have valid images in your catalog for those clients? .../Ed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Type de stockage pour données déd upliquées
2010/4/6 cpreston netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.com For those interested, the google english translation of the previous post is: Hello everyone, I just read the C version (April 1) on deduplication NetBackup 7.0. It is mentioned that only the DAS or FC is supported (not CIFS, NFS and iSCSI bizare). Someone has experience on the subject? I do not really see why the iSCSI protocol does not work. Thank you in advance for your answers. I would guess that it has to do with supportability and fear rather than a technical reason why it doesn't work. After all, there's no reason that you can't put a Sybase database on NFS but Symantec refuses to support it and won't support any part of the catalog or the EMM database on NFS. With 10GigE these days, iSCSI should be doable. 10GigE will outperform 2Gbps FC... I can see why NFS or CIFS would have issues - locking, etc - but iSCSI should really not be an issue. Some days I really, really wish Symantec would update their support documentation to say why something isn't supported. We don't know if it's because they didn't test it or if they tested it and it failed. There's a HUGE difference. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Baumann, Kevin kbaum...@akamai.com wrote: Anyone know if that will change or has changed with version 7? ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/340109.pdf The following Backup Selections capabilities are NOT supported for an NDMP policy: ■ Wildcards in pathnames. For example, /home/* is an invalid entry. ■ Individual file names. Only directory or volume names are allowed. Page 47. Happy reading. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts *From:* Jonathan Dyck [mailto:jd...@bank-banque-canada.ca] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:34 PM *To:* Baumann, Kevin; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups Unfortunately (to my knowledge), wildcards are not supported with NDMP backups. You’ll have to explicitly supply the paths. What we do is: 1) Have a policy where you’ve explicitly listed paths, ie: a. /vol/vol1/first b. /vol/vol1/second 2) Have a second policy checking to see if new paths have been added. For us, that means: a. we’ve mounted via NFS the root of the volume, (ie: vol1) on the backup master server, b. and it’s backed up using a “Standard” backup policy for that mountpoint (cross mount points required). c.You exclude each in individual paths you are backing up in #1, d. and if the #2 backup policy ever grows larger than a set amount (32kB for example), we get an email saying something along the lines “a new vol1 path has been added” so, e. We have new paths to add to policy #1 Elegant eh? (read sarcastically of course) *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *Baumann, Kevin *Sent:* April 6, 2010 12:47 PM *To:* VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups All, I am trying to run NDMP backups with certain paths and I am getting error 99 in the GUI, and the error ndmp_data_start_backup failed, status = 9 (NDMP_ILLEGAL_ARGS_ERR). The policy is setup as follows: Backup Selections: NEW_STREAM /vol/vol2/data/[A-M]* NEW_STREAM /vol/vol2/data/[a-m]* If I setup the policy to just backup /vol/vol2/data it works. This is on Netbackup 6.5.3 and is connecting to a Netapp via IP (can’t connect it via fibre). And the OS of the master/media servers are SuSE linux. Thanks. -Kevin La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Adams, Dwayne adam...@medsch.ucsf.eduwrote: Has anyone ever heard of a service that someone offers to convert NDMP tapes to another format? We are looking at getting rid of some old NDMP Filers (OnStor) that still have tapes with 7 year retention data on them. My options are to keep a legacy restore environment or restore the data and then backup using CIFS. I also need to encrypt the data in whatever process I use. My manger says he has heard of a service that will do the conversion for you. Has anyone heard of this? Please advise. One of the problems is that NDMP isn't really a standard for tapes - it's a protocol, not a tape format. You can't even restore an NDMP backup created by a NetApp to a Celerra, for example. There are a lot of tape/data conversions out there. This is the first one that my goodsearch returned: http://www.dataconversion.com/. I'd be surprised if companies like Ontrack coiuldn't do it as well. Use the search engines :-) Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
