Re: [VFB] Don O Rope Dubbing again.

[Neville Gosling]

Yes Alan, you were a terrific help to Don O. I bought the DVD. He was extremely 
talented despite his large hands. And yes, we lost him too soon. 


Neville (Nev) Gosling
Vancouver, Canada

> On Nov 9, 2023, at 19:25, Phxflytyer  wrote:
> 
> Gary:
> I had the privilege of learning this technique from Don. I helped him move 
> from a two story house in Idaho into a house just a few miles away that was a 
> better fit for him and his wife. After he had his stroke, he was unable to 
> climb the stairs. 
> So sad that we lost him and his talent?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
> 
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
> 
> Real funny Scotty?
> Now beam down my clothes!
> 
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2023, at 10:59 PM, Gary Webb  wrote:
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>> Jack Dennis has posted this video Don Ordes and his Rope Dubbing 
>> techniques.  
>> In case you missed the chance to buy his DVD here it is.   
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kZjcNtXN8=284s
>> I
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Re: [VFB] I'M still kickin'

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Hi Chuck:

So glad that you are still alive and kicking. So far, and I'm getting up there 
with 12 more years than you and still do not have any grandchildren. 


Neville (Nev) Gosling
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Re: [VFB] Joan/Lee Wulff Triangle Taper Line

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Rene;

I have 2 of them and like them. The quality is fine.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC  Canada

On Apr 14, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Rene Zillmann  wrote:

Folks,

I recently was able to purchase 2 of these lines, one 4F and one 5/6 F.. They 
were on sale for a very small price.

I've seen a lot of advertising on these lines. Is anybody using them and can 
share some experience.

René

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[VFB] Chuck Alexander

[Neville Gosling]

I believe that Chuck got a really bad bout of Covid that possibly became long 
covid.  It is strange that we have not heard from him.  He seemed to have a 
number of health problems.  I hope he is still with us.

Nev Gosling
Vancouver, Canada

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Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

[Neville Gosling]

Yes Gary, I am one of the culprits of not posting. 

I have been very busy, and my computer died & I cannot afford a replacement at 
present. I am now using an 8 year old Mac Air with 11 " sreen but I had 
cataract surgery twice last year and I am having difficulty reading the small 
screen even with magnifying glasses. I am trying to get ready to go fishing but 
I need to do some work on my old 40+ years aluminum boat first ,but I have to 
do it outside and the weather is not cooperating as we have had a lot of rain.

I hope to return to fly tying as well. The pandemic messed everything up for me.

Nev Gosling

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Re: [VFB] My messy fly tying bench

[Neville Gosling]

Good to hear from you Al. I thought that you had been unusually quiet. Yes, 
getting old is not fun and these are meant to be the golden years. 梁!

Neville (Nev) Gosling

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
> I’ve seen hooks similar to those when I worked for a time in a bait shop 
> after I retired.  They were larger hooks designed as weedless worm hooks.  I 
> never thought about using them for flies.
> 
> I’d love to see a picture of that 2-headed monster.  .  I may have to get 
> us some Never Snags.
> 
> Don’t know if I told you, I had a minor setback about 3 months ago.  I have a 
> fractured vertebra.  I’m wearing a bra….er…..brace that helps a little but 
> not a lot.  I’ve been trying to get in for surgery for 6 weeks and I finally 
> got a call this morning.  It will be the 15th of next month.
> 
> I can only tie a couple of flies before the back says STOP.  It’s not so much 
> bending as it is holding my arms up.  The fractured vertebra is between my 
> shoulder blades.  I fractured it by simply rolling over in bed to get up.  
> Weak bones are no fun.  I’m blaming it on radiation therapy - one of the two 
> tumors I had was on the back of my rib cage near this vertebra.  (The other 
> was in my right lung.)
> 
> Other than that I’m doing well.  I’ve moved into a retirement community and 
> am busy as ever.  I delivered “Meals on Wheels” this morning and have to 
> leave shortly to go accompany the retirement community chorus practice (you 
> probably didn’t know that I play piano).
> 
> Talk to you soon,
> Al Fish
> 1014 Iris Ave.
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> (317) 919-3413
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>> On Aug 25, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Neville Gosling > <mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> And I thought my tying table was messy! Never heard of Neversnag before.
>> 
>> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Gary Webb >> <mailto:glwranger...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How did this happen?  Don't ask my wife.
>>> 
>>> The Wiggle Butt Two Headed Hopper is tied on a Never Snag weedless hook. 
>>> https://neversnag.com/product-category/neversnag-guardhooks-weedless-fishing-hooks/
>>>  
>>> <https://neversnag.com/product-category/neversnag-guardhooks-weedless-fishing-hooks/>
>>>Two things I like about this hook.   First: It is weedless.  One of the 
>>> best ways to fish a hopper is to cast it into the weeds on the bank and 
>>> gently tug it into the water. I'm very good at getting my fly into the 
>>> weeds.  Not so good at getting it out.
>>> Second: The weight of the weedguard makes the fly land and float upright.
>>> Because of the weight I had to add more foam to keep it floating. A second 
>>> head accomplished that.  And I think it still looks natural enough for the 
>>> fish. I might try using less foam for a slow sinking hopper.  I've heard 
>>> sunken hoppers sometimes work better that the floating ones.
>>> 
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Re: [VFB] My messy fly tying bench

[Neville Gosling]

And I thought my tying table was messy! Never heard of Neversnag before.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Gary Webb  wrote:
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> How did this happen?  Don't ask my wife.
> 
> The Wiggle Butt Two Headed Hopper is tied on a Never Snag weedless hook. 
> https://neversnag.com/product-category/neversnag-guardhooks-weedless-fishing-hooks/
>  
> 
>Two things I like about this hook.   First: It is weedless.  One of the 
> best ways to fish a hopper is to cast it into the weeds on the bank and 
> gently tug it into the water. I'm very good at getting my fly into the weeds. 
>  Not so good at getting it out.
> Second: The weight of the weedguard makes the fly land and float upright.
> Because of the weight I had to add more foam to keep it floating. A second 
> head accomplished that.  And I think it still looks natural enough for the 
> fish. I might try using less foam for a slow sinking hopper.  I've heard 
> sunken hoppers sometimes work better that the floating ones.
> 
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Re: [VFB] Running late - again

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How are you Allan? Are fully ensconced in your new home?

Nev

> On Jul 2, 2021, at 18:44, Allan Fish  wrote:
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> <2125918.gif>
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> IN THE MOTHER-OF-PEARL CONNOISSEURS GROUP, THEY HAVE THE MOTTO  “LOVE THY 
> NACRE AS THYSELF”.
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Re: [VFB] Great hooks, great price

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Hi Rick:

you need to check your typing as you are missing the “m” in company and you 
have an extra “o”, also  the price is per 100 and not 1000. These are probably 
made in China as are Mustad. I prefer the premium Japanese made hooks as I have 
experienced light wire hooks that have straightened out resulting in lost fish. 
Maruto are a Japanese brand that I like but most of my small chironomid flies 
are now tied on the stronger Daiichi hooks.

I realise that you are fishing for bluegills and crappie so one would not need 
extra strong hooks.

Neville (Nev) Gosling




> On May 15, 2021, at 13:04, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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> I have been using hooks from Wholesaleflycopoany.com.  They seems to be the 
> equivalent of Dai Riki.  usually $7.00/1000
> 
> Rick 
> 
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021, 08:38:42 AM CDT, Gary Webb 
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> 
> During this last year I have probably tied more flys (most I will probably 
> never use) than since we used to have several swaps going at one time.
> Anyway, I love the hooks from Green Caddis Outfitters.   And the price is 
> pretty good too. https://gcoutfitters.com/   
> 
> I've done a bit of fishing lately.  Caught several using a Pink Squirrel most 
> of the time.   After my hernia surgery, my Dr. said: "Don't go near any water 
> except a shower for the next two weeks." That ban ended two weeks ago. Now 
> all I have to do for the next three weeks is avoid catching a fish that 
> weighs more than 10 lbs.  I think I can manage that. LOL   
> My latest learning adventure in fly tying is with the Kebari style. They are
> a Japanese creation.  A soft hackle fly with the cone facing forward.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTVg3wKZ5A=0 
> 
> And I'm trying Tenkara fly fishing. Which is very similar to Euro Nymphing.   
>  If you are a KISS type of person, Tenkara fly fishing is about as simple as 
> it gets.  A lot of the streams here in the Driftless
> Area of Southwest WI, Southeast MN, and Northeast IA are not very friendly to 
> long back casts, or even short ones. You get pretty good at roll casting.  
> But in some spots that won't work either.  
> So any method that "keeps my fly in or on the water, because there are no 
> fish in the air", is worth trying.  Plus it gives me an excuse for buying 
> another fly rod. LOL.
> 
> Gary
> 
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Re: [VFB] Test

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Received Loud & clear in Vancouver BC……Nev

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 17:12, Phxflytyer  wrote:
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
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> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
> 
> Real funny Scotty?
> Now beam down my clothes!
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Re: [VFB] Don O memorial

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Alan:

I have replied to Donny’s  facebook post and plan to attend and have saved to 
my Calendar

Neville Gosling

 22, 2021, at 06:40, Phxflytyer  wrote:
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> If anyone would like to attend this event, please let me know. I will forward 
> your email address to Donny Ordes so he can send you a Zoom invitation?
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> It is scheduled for this Saturday at 2 PM. 
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
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> Now beam down my clothes!
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Re: [VFB] Facebook Group

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Peggy

It seems that Ed Roden beat you to it by about 12 years. Why he kept it such a 
secret I don't know and although I don’t like Zuckerberg or Facebook, there are 
a lot of VFB members there already and I have requested to join.

see https://www.facebook.com/groups/42271173976 


I don’t like the landing page as it is not connected with fly fishing, but I 
don’t know if it can be changed

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver BC
Canada 

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 09:36, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
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> If everyone agrees I'll volunteer to set up the facebook page and invite a 
> group of our members to get it started. We should be open until members find 
> us and then go private. Also, include a couple of easy questions for 
> membership.
> 
> Peggy B
> 
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 6:54 AM Rene Zillmann  > wrote:
> Gang,
> 
> is anybody interested in setting up such a facebook group? I do not have a 
> facebook account yet, but that would be a good reason to get  an account 
> there.
> 
> What do y'all think?
> 
> Rene
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/1/21 5:07 PM, 'KP' via VFB Mail wrote:
>> So if we want to keep our merry band together why not set up a Facebook or 
>> WhatsApp page/group? Wouldnt have to wait 24 hours to get a reply as it will 
>> be almost instant? Set it as a private group leave the contact options on 
>> here so anyone who wants to stay in touch can pop over to the new location. 
>> And that way we would not have a “me too” email that is forty foot long cos 
>> no one removed the original emails from the reply. If you choose whatsapp 
>> you can video message at no cost etc.
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>> Happy New Year all
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[VFB] Test

[Neville Gosling]

Google groups are dropping all groups . This is a test to see if it has 
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[VFB] re Don Ordes

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I'm not sue if this will work but worth a try

>From Facebook

https://bit.ly/38xGTGJ <https://bit.ly/38xGTGJ>

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Re: [VFB] Tony Memorial Swap -- Idea

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I support this but am unable to tie any flies at present

Nevill Gosling

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:29 AM, Rene Zillmann  wrote:
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> Folks, fellow VFB Members and Tiers (Tyers),
> 
> In the past, we did a couple of swaps to honor certain members. I would like 
> to pick up this for a really memorable tyer who passed away recently.
> 
> I suggest that we run a swap to honor Tony Spezio.
> 
> Unfortunately I cannot host it, as it makes no sense to send the contribution 
> to Europe and back to the USA.
> 
> So, as a first step I'm looking for someone in the US who is willing to help 
> (Let's call him/her host for now). I assume that it would make sense if this 
> member is close to the NAFF in Mtn Home, AR.
> 
> My idea is, that the participants ty one to three flies, send them in to the 
> host. The host will frame the flies, so that they can be handed over to the 
> NAFF and they can auction the frame off during the next Sowbug. The NAFF 
> might use the money for a good purpose in Tony's name.
> 
> We can use paypal to send the financial contribution to the host for the 
> frame etc.
> 
> My idea is, that we send in 3 flies, one for the NAFF frame, one frame for 
> Dot / Robert (Tony's son), and the 3rd set is for the host for is effort. 
> Maybe he can distribute a picture of the frame, so all participants have 
> something what they can can frame and put it at the wall.
> 
> I would do the usual stuff on this list, to keep things going. However, I 
> need input from the host while the flies are arriving.
> 
> I'm open for sure for better ideas, but I really would like to get a "Tony's 
> swap" running.
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> Please don't sign up for now. First, we need a volunteer for the 'host' in 
> the US.
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> Best
> 
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers wanted/needed

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Hang in there Chuck & family. Not so sure about the Hydroxychloriaquin though 
but Im not a doctor. Prayers & thoughts follow.

Neville (Nev) Gosling.
Greater Vancouver
B.C. Canada


On Oct 30, 2020, at 13:01, Chuck Alexander  
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Hydroxychloriaquin

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Re: [VFB] Skin cancer

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That is good new Chuck, but make sure you keep an eye on it in the future just 
in case.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Sep 22, 2020, at 10:38, Chuck Alexander  
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Folks: I got my results today and the growths my doc removed WERE basal cell 
skin cancer, but he says he’s all but positive he got them all. Just told me to 
watch out for any re-growth or new cancers. Thanks for the thoughts and 
prayers, Chuck
_
From: Chuck Alexander 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 2:06 PM
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Subject: Skin cancer

Folks: Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers as I had to have two more 
skin cancers removed from my right arm and shoulder yesterday that they turn 
out to be either basal cell or squamous  rather than much more dangerous 
melanoma. Weird though cause the one on my shoulder popped up a cpl months ago 
and the one on my arm only two weeks ago, yet to get to all normal looking 
tissue, he had to go ll the way to the bone on my arm. I like the way he does 
ot in that instead of doing a biopsy than coming back to get it removed  if 
it’s malignant, he likes to go ahead are remove the whole thing, then send it 
off. That way you only have a one visit removal.
Anyway, I’ll should the results he says by Friday. Thanks, Chuck

 

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[VFB] Photos of Tony

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To Alan Di Somma

Great photos of Tony. Thanks for posting Alan.

Neville  (Nev) Gosling

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

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Tony fought a valiant battle despite the odds. He was a good and generous man 
and I have fond memories of him when I attended the Sowbug in 2011. Even back 
then, his health was not great. Rest in peace Tony, the battle is over.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver BC  Canada

On Aug 15, 2020, at 06:55, Peggy Brenner  wrote:

For those who are not on FB, Tony died in his sleep last night.  I visited them 
at the home in early March as I was in Mountain Home for a ladies fly tying 
event. He was determined to make 90 but didn't seem to have a plan other than 
getting home after that. Going home was not an option without live in care, but 
the home was very nice and everyone knew both of them as the employees lived 
local as well. 

Maybe next year for Sowbug we should all meet there for a  moment of silence in 
his honor and before we all get to 90.

Peggy

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

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Poor Tony, he is having such a tough time. I am glad that I met him at the 
Sowbug in 2011. Prayers will continue.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Jul 9, 2020, at 16:15, Scott Bearden  wrote:

For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had to
have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30 days.
They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently on
the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
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Re: [VFB] Must have missed the Tee shirt test

[Neville Gosling]

OUCH!

I have had friends do this and have attempted to do it to myself but not that 
badly.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Mar 30, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Gary Webb  wrote:

I was out fishing this morning.  Crooked Creek in southeastern Minnesota is a 
short 30 minute drive away.
This was a KISS outing.  Tenkara rod, a small box of Pink Squirrels, and 
polaroid glasses.  At the first pool I caught a nice 14 inch brown.  My next 
cast hooked a weed on the bank. I'm blaming the wind.  Anyway while I was 
trying to retrieve the fly, Shadow my fishing dog ran by and dragged the line 
through my hand until my finger stopped the hook. I thought, this
is no big deal. I will just back it out and keep fishing. It would not budge.
And I didn't have my vest with the forceps clipped to it.  I broke off the fly 
and went back to fishing.  Caught four more before heading for home.
Five fish total. Plus a big guy that broke off.  66 inches and about 170 lbs. 
At home I cut the hook with side cutter pliers and removed the point.  I've 
always said my main reason for using barbless hooks is this:  The "Catch" I 
most like to release is ME!   I usually do the Tee shirt test on all my hooks. 
But I must have missed this one.
Tight lines you all.  But only if your hook is in a fish and not your hide.

Gary
















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Re: [VFB] Who remembers?

[Neville Gosling]

I remember the Caddis swaps from 1999 through 2002 and still have them all.

Neville (Nev) Gosling



On Mar 29, 2020, at 1:09 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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The folks who were in the swap wrote s story about he fly and they we collated 
for the participants.

Rick 

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 2:01:09 PM CDT, Jack Harford 
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What book is it???

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Just reread the book on the Most Memorable Fly Swap book from 2002.  Who else 
remembers this?

Rick 


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[VFB] Tony Spezio and Don Ordes

[Neville Gosling]

I called Tony Spezio’s cell number on his birthday which was Sunday 22nd March 
but got no answer, so I left a message wishing him a good day and left it at 
that.

A couple of days ago, I received a message from Don Ordes with the attched pic 
and note 

"Starting all over with a make-shift pen holder. Now I need to make a bobbin 
holder.”

Unfortunately, the stroke has resulted in almost constant pain for Don.


Neville (Nev) Gosling
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

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Yes, I’m sure all list members are saddened by this news. 

Nev

> On Mar 15, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Allan  wrote:
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I received a saddening phone call from Tony today.  He was very difficult to 
understand but he wanted me to post on the lists that he will no longer be able 
to make rods.  He has sold his lathe and some other equipment.  There is still 
one rod at his house he would like to sell.  I think he said he would sell it 
for $500, but I am not certain.  He has some smaller tools available.  He did 
not say how to get them, but if you have are interested, I have his son 
Robert's e-mail address.

Tony said he is no longer able to read nor to use the internet.  He is very 
weak and I could tell it took all his effort to even make the phone call.  He 
was trying to tell me something and then just said "Bye" and hung up. Hi 
nursing home is like most others and allows no visitors,

I am very sad to have to write this.
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Re: [VFB] First Fish of the Year

[Neville Gosling]

I did wonder (Grin)

Nev

On Mar 9, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Chuck Alexander  
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Folks: I caught the “BASS” not the “ASS” a I said below. That would have 
smarted LOL..Chuck
 
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  
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Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 9:29 PM
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Subject: [VFB] First Fish of the Year
 
Well folks. It was 62 and sunny this afternoon, so myself and my grand 
daughters Cheyenne (15 yrs old) and Katie (13 yrs old) went to the nearby state 
owned lakes. Cheyenne and Katie got skunked, and I could one little ten inch 
largemouth bass. Nothing to write home about, (I didn’t even get a phone cause 
I was a city block or so from the camera and/or phone which was in the car ) 
but to get out in the sun after 25 o the last 30 days of pouring down rain it 
was great. And I must confess, I caught the ass on a spinning rod and reel, as 
the wind was gusting to 35 mph and sustained at 20-25 mph, so we used  1/8” 
jigs. 
We first tried flyrods, but that wind blw the fly, line, leader etc every way 
but straight. 
Anyway, the good Lord willing, we’ll get out a lot more this yr than we have 
the last two yrs because of my medical issues.
It as also nice to be able to fish till 6:30 because of daylight savings time 
which started today, Chuck
 

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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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Hi AL;

Thanks for the update despite the fact that the news is not good. I have let 
DonO know but I have not heard from him in quite a while and the last message I 
sent him re Dot he responded that he would get back to me but he has not done 
so yet. The stroke he suffered was very debilitating and he is in almost 
constant pain. Unfortunately, all we can do is pray. Tony is almost 90 and 
presumably Dot is not too far behind him, but DonO is just 68! 

Nev

On Jan 5, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

Tony Spezio called me tonight.  He is currently in the hospital at Mountain 
Home.  He is suffering from congestive heart failure, massive urinary tract 
infection, pneumonia and his kidneys are failing.   He will be in the hospital 
several days then moved to the same nursing home that his wife Dot is in.

For those of you who haven't heard, Dot has suffered a massive stroke and can 
not talk.

I hate to say this but it doesn't look good at this point in time.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] Dot

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That is very good news Tony and a relief to many of us on VFB. I hope that Dot 
continues to improve.

Neville

On Dec 25, 2019, at 9:41 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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Best CHRISTMAS gift today, I clearly heard Dot say MERRY CHRISTMAS to my 
daughter on the phone and to a nurse.
Arkansas Tony

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Re: [VFB] Merry Christmas To Me.. Merry Christmas to me...................

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Well aren’t you the lucky one! Your jeep is 3 years younger than my 2002 Ford 
Ranger . I hope that you gave your wife a big !

Nev


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<<...>> <<...>> <<...>>
Folks: I knew I’d been a good boy this year, but not a GREAT boy LOL. We were 
going to our daughter’s to eat this afternoon and my wife said we needed to 
swing by our youngest sons and give him a ride. Well, we pulled up there and I  
asked my wife “who jeep is that?? To which she answered “it’s yours”. I said 
“no, “I mean who’s is it REALLY” and again she said “It yours. 
You’ve been needing/wanting a fishing Jeep/SUV/Truck so when a coworker of hers 
put this one up for sale. We’ll we’ve been reading up on various vehicles as to 
which ones in these classe hold their value and Jeep and/or Toyota seem to head 
every list. So, she test drove it (unaware to me)and she got our son to go test 
drive it and check it out with her) and it had a brand new towing package with 
2” receiver and 1 7/8” trailer ball, brand new (including spare set of tires, 
new brakes all the way around, new battery, alternator as well as a new 
serpentine belt and water pump, with a fresh oil, oil filter, tranny fluid and 
tranny filter along with a full, we’ll kept (as it’s a one owner as well) 
maintenance book. Has had the anti freeze fluid changed back in Oct this yr, 
and the Jeep does NOT knock, squeal, thud, ping, etc etc either. AC and heater 
both work like new as well.
ONLY drawbacks that I could find are the age (2007), the mileage (146,000. But 
200,000 is the new 100,000 these days, especially like I said on Jeeps and/or 
Toyota’s. So, I’m now off to the lakes, rivers and watersheds around here when 
the weather starts to warm next Spring, which will be here before ya know it. 
Another great thing is that the lady only wanted $2800.00 but she took $2600.00 
Anyway, like I said about, you could have bowled me over with a feather when I 
found out it really is mind. And when she went to our banker to see about 
getting the money for it, he said “In the condition it’s in, plus being a Jeep, 
it’s worth at least $3800.00, so I’ll loan you the $2600.00 with NO money down 
and if for any reason you change your mind, let me know and I’ll  (he’ll) buy 
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[VFB] TEST

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Test Only as I accidentally unsubscribed

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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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Tony. 
We are all with you & Dot with our prayers and thoughts. Never give up hope!

Neville (Nev) Gosling

> On Dec 9, 2019, at 11:23 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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 Tony,

I am so very saddened to hear this.  My prayers will be redoubled. 


Al



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> Prayers needed,
> My wife Dot is in the hospital. She has been unresponsive for a couple of 
> days.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Suggestion for Paper Books with Czech / Euro / Jig nymph patterns in them

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Pete:


I took up and interest in chech nymphs about 10 or more yers ago and have 
several books on the subject, however I am currently in the UK and will try to 
remember to send you the list when I  return home. 

Nev

> On Dec 1, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
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> I'll have to look for a real book, I use a Kindle and lot's of tying books 
> are on the Unlimited plan.  I enjoyed a talk with Jan Siman and got some of 
> his materials, the chapstick looking marker for the tippet and a couple of 
> furled leaders that are colored. I have never liked the indicators, most are 
> to big and remind me of bobbers.
> 
> It was nice to see you and family at the Symposium, the hall was smaller this 
> year but made for a closer show.
> 
> Peggy
> 
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 10:44 AM Pete Gramp  > wrote:
> Hi, VFB folks - hope everything is well with you -
> My son and I went to the International Fly Tying Symposium in Parsippany NJ 
> (USA) a weekend or so ago, and we both really enjoyed the flies tied by Czech 
> nymph master Jan Siman.  My son is asking me why there's a shortage of books 
> that speak about fly patterns tied in the realm of Czech nymph, Euro nymph, 
> or just jig nymph patterns, and my best guess is because everything these 
> days has gone digital - that is, everything has shifted to instagram, 
> facebook, or YouTube.  
> 
> So with that hunch in mind, I'm reaching out to see if anyone knows of any 
> books that have a wealth of patterns specific to the Czech nymphs, Jig 
> nymphs, and/or Euro nymphing styles.  We can always use youtube, sure, but 
> what we're after is a paper book.  That said, if you know of a particular 
> tyer or channel on instagram or youtube, or the likes, please let me know so 
> we can check it out - if they deal specifically or mostly with those types of 
> nymphs, please.
> 
> Thanks, everyone!
> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes.

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Hi John:

Great! I thought you were still around but don’t see much from you. I will 
inform Don O that you are still on the list. I suspect yesterday may have been 
one of his down days, but he was asking about you. 

Neville  (Nev) Gosling

On Nov 15, 2019, at 5:43 AM, John Ridderbos  wrote:

I am still kicking around, reading the posts when they come around 

Sent from my iPhone

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> I just finished a message chat with with Don Ordes. He was asking about VFB 
> and specifically about "Ever hear from Ridderbose? What about our Aussie 
> buddy?  Reuven Segal?” and I was able to tell him that Reuven had moved to 
> Israel and had only just posted  to VFB advising he travels a lot and was 
> currently in Japan. I told him I had seen the odd post from John Ridderboss 
> (? Spelling) but not lately. Unfortunately, Don is still in a lot of pain.  I 
> tried to persuade him to add his VFB email to his ipad but he said there was 
> a conflict. I told him that I have done it and that it is doable. He replied 
> that he is having difficulty doing as lot of things.  “Simple things are no 
> longer simple.”. He then said his pain meds were kicking in and that he 
> was going to have a nap. 
> 
> Sorry for tha dark area - probably due to me pasting some of DonO’s answers.
> 
> So sad that he is having such a tough time. He still has not touched his 
> computer.
> 
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Re: [VFB] list activity

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I don’t disagree Jack but I feel strongly that the problem is that we have no 
one to promote the list. If you use Googe to search for either “the Virtual 
Flybox”or just “Virtual Flybox” this list does not appear at all and there are 
only 6 pages total. We need somone to improve the search engine optimization 
aka SEO  and we are even a Google Group! I know Allan Fish does his best but we 
are not even listed. How can new people find us if we cannot be found?

Neville (Nev) Gosling



On Nov 14, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Jack Harford  wrote:

Probably the only way to get new members for this list is to personally invite 
them. I've just been on a few years only because Al Fish invited me and I know 
a few folks from Sowbug. 

Tight lines
Jack

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Yes Rick that is true but if you cannot find this list in a search it is not 
surprising that we get few if any newcomers.

Nev

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I think the biggest thing about this list and other bulletin boards also is 
that the younger generations are on Facebook, Twitter ect and older folks (like 
me) are on them to be in contact with family.

Rick 

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[Neville Gosling]

I just finished a message chat with with Don Ordes. He was asking about VFB and 
specifically about "Ever hear from Ridderbose? What about our Aussie buddy?  
Reuven Segal?” and I was able to tell him that Reuven had moved to Israel and 
had only just posted  to VFB advising he travels a lot and was currently in 
Japan. I told him I had seen the odd post from John Ridderboss (? Spelling) but 
not lately. Unfortunately, Don is still in a lot of pain.  I tried to persuade 
him to add his VFB email to his ipad but he said there was a conflict. I told 
him that I have done it and that it is doable. He replied that he is having 
difficulty doing as lot of things.  “Simple things are no longer simple.”. 
He then said his pain meds were kicking in and that he was going to have a nap. 

Sorry for tha dark area - probably due to me pasting some of DonO’s answers.

So sad that he is having such a tough time. He still has not touched his 
computer.

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Greater Vancouver, BC. Canada

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Re: [VFB] list activity

[Neville Gosling]

Yes Rick that is true but if you cannot find this list in a search it is not 
surprising that we get few if any newcomers.

Nev

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 wrote:

I think the biggest thing about this list and other bulletin boards also is 
that the younger generations are on Facebook, Twitter ect and older folks (like 
me) are on them to be in contact with family.

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Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod

[Neville Gosling]

Yes, I’m sure it is Tony, but the ability to build a one-weight rod is 
something to be proud of. I only wish I could! Take care & best wishes

Nev.

On Nov 13, 2019, at 5:29 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:

Nev, still not finished with the 1 wt, it is ready to wrap. It has taken me 
nine months to get this far with it.
I wish I could get down in the shop more often. This problem with my right foot 
is now keeping me from getting things done. A nurse comes every day to treat my 
foot and I go to the Wound Clinic one day a week.  It is time consuming along 
with other doctor appointments.
Tony

On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 7:18:04 PM CST, Neville Gosling 
 wrote:


But Tony - you are still building a one-weight cane rod are you not, or is it 
finished?

Nev

On Nov 13, 2019, at 5:16 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Jerry,
I always did better on Smalies with the WRD.
Not doing any fishing these days since the leg amputation.
Arkansas Tony

On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 6:59:02 PM CST, JERALD CARUSO 
mailto:jerryp...@comcast.net>> wrote:


I have a couple dozen spools of the Gudebrod wrapping thread.  I know I have, I 
guess it would be Garnet and probably the Candy Apple red. It's a bright red. 
Not much left on the spool though.  Going back to the Chili Pepper, I've had 
better luck with it for warm water species.  I've caught more trout on the 
White River Demon.  Tied in smaller sizes, 16, 18 and 20, usually fished as a 
dropper under a larger dry fly.  
Jerry Caruso 
"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
> On November 13, 2019 at 7:42 PM Neville Gosling  <mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> Hi Tony:
> 
> The original number is 326 scarlet. The two spools that I purchased on eBay 
> are marked #396 and I don’t think that is a Gudebrod number. The red does not 
> quite match and I suspect the seller has respooled from a bulk spool of 
> another brand. I still have an old Gudebrod colour chart from about 1986 that 
> lists 2 other red colours being #355 Candy Apple Red and #206 Garnet. I 
> suspect I have been scammed but at least I have 2x 100 yard spools of red for 
> future builds. I never though that 1 rod would use more than 100 yards of 
> thread but there was quite a bit of wastage as the intermediate wraps were 
> only 4 or 5 turns and just handling the section they woud come undone if not 
> varnished. 
> 
> Nev
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2019, at 3:05 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail < 
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>   
> Nev,
> Do you have a number for that thread. I might have it in my Gudebrod stash of 
> wrapping thread.
> I will have to wait till I can get a friend to come by to check for me, not 
> able to go down stairs yet 
> Arkansas Tony 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 4:19:53 PM CST, Neville Gosling < 
> nev.gosl...@gmail.com <mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Chuck
> 
> I needed a specific brand, size and colour as I had already used up the first 
> 100yd spool and needed another to finish the rod. Since I started with a 
> certain red numbered colour by Gudebrod, I had to get some of the same size, 
> brand and colour. Gudebrod closed down around 8 years or so ago Due to the 
> scarcity of this puduct, I only found 2 sellers with the colour/size that I 
> wanted. They were offering old stock and one of them was so old that the 
> spools in question were wooden. The thicker sizes were available in limited 
> quantity but not the “A” that I needed. The rod that I was restoring for a 
> friend is a 1938 Hardy Gold Medal - 4 pieces including 2 tips and 
> intermediate wraps every inch or so. By the time I had finished there were 
> 171 thread wraps including the splint end ferrules and guides.
> 
> Nev
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Chuck Alexander < chuckalexan...@centurylink.net 
> <mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> wrote:
> 
> Neville: Your welcome. No, I don’t have any rod wrapping thread but surely 
> there must be some on ebay etc?? Chuck
>  
> From:  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Neville Gosling
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 12:39 PM
> To: VFB mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod
>  
> Hi Chuck:
>  
> Thanks for the offer, but it is the rod wrapping thread in size A that I 
> wanted and I have now got it albeit at a steep price. I did buy a fairly 
> large amount of Gudebrod fly tying thread on ebay after they went out of 
> business in primarily 8/0 and 10/0 with some 6/0 and 3/0 in

Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod

[Neville Gosling]

But Tony - you are still building a one-weight cane rod are you not, or is it 
finished?

Nev

On Nov 13, 2019, at 5:16 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:

Jerry,
I always did better on Smalies with the WRD.
Not doing any fishing these days since the leg amputation.
Arkansas Tony

On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 6:59:02 PM CST, JERALD CARUSO 
 wrote:


I have a couple dozen spools of the Gudebrod wrapping thread.  I know I have, I 
guess it would be Garnet and probably the Candy Apple red. It's a bright red. 
Not much left on the spool though.  Going back to the Chili Pepper, I've had 
better luck with it for warm water species.  I've caught more trout on the 
White River Demon.  Tied in smaller sizes, 16, 18 and 20, usually fished as a 
dropper under a larger dry fly.  
Jerry Caruso 
"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
> On November 13, 2019 at 7:42 PM Neville Gosling  
> wrote: 
> 
> Hi Tony:
> 
> The original number is 326 scarlet. The two spools that I purchased on eBay 
> are marked #396 and I don’t think that is a Gudebrod number. The red does not 
> quite match and I suspect the seller has respooled from a bulk spool of 
> another brand. I still have an old Gudebrod colour chart from about 1986 that 
> lists 2 other red colours being #355 Candy Apple Red and #206 Garnet. I 
> suspect I have been scammed but at least I have 2x 100 yard spools of red for 
> future builds. I never though that 1 rod would use more than 100 yards of 
> thread but there was quite a bit of wastage as the intermediate wraps were 
> only 4 or 5 turns and just handling the section they woud come undone if not 
> varnished. 
> 
> Nev
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2019, at 3:05 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail < 
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>   
> Nev,
> Do you have a number for that thread. I might have it in my Gudebrod stash of 
> wrapping thread.
> I will have to wait till I can get a friend to come by to check for me, not 
> able to go down stairs yet 
> Arkansas Tony 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 4:19:53 PM CST, Neville Gosling < 
> nev.gosl...@gmail.com <mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Chuck
> 
> I needed a specific brand, size and colour as I had already used up the first 
> 100yd spool and needed another to finish the rod. Since I started with a 
> certain red numbered colour by Gudebrod, I had to get some of the same size, 
> brand and colour. Gudebrod closed down around 8 years or so ago Due to the 
> scarcity of this puduct, I only found 2 sellers with the colour/size that I 
> wanted. They were offering old stock and one of them was so old that the 
> spools in question were wooden. The thicker sizes were available in limited 
> quantity but not the “A” that I needed. The rod that I was restoring for a 
> friend is a 1938 Hardy Gold Medal - 4 pieces including 2 tips and 
> intermediate wraps every inch or so. By the time I had finished there were 
> 171 thread wraps including the splint end ferrules and guides.
> 
> Nev
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Chuck Alexander < chuckalexan...@centurylink.net 
> <mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> wrote:
> 
> Neville: Your welcome. No, I don’t have any rod wrapping thread but surely 
> there must be some on ebay etc?? Chuck
>  
> From:  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Neville Gosling
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 12:39 PM
> To: VFB mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod
>  
> Hi Chuck:
>  
> Thanks for the offer, but it is the rod wrapping thread in size A that I 
> wanted and I have now got it albeit at a steep price. I did buy a fairly 
> large amount of Gudebrod fly tying thread on ebay after they went out of 
> business in primarily 8/0 and 10/0 with some 6/0 and 3/0 in limited colours. 
> Thanks again but I am well stocked in fly tying threads.
>  
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>  
>  
> On Nov 13, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Chuck Alexander < 
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net <mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> wrote:
>  
> Nev: Do you need some Guderbrod thread?? Let me know as I have a lot of it, 
> but I mostly use Danville Fly master plus these days. I have about  15 spools 
> of Guderbrod I’lll give you a good deal on (FREE LOL) if you email me at 
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net <mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> with 
> your address. I even have a new spool of that Guderbrod scarlet color in 3/0. 
> The other color range from black to white and every color in between. Some 
> are on reg s

Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Tony:

The original number is 326 scarlet. The two spools that I purchased on eBay are 
marked #396 and I don’t think that is a Gudebrod number. The red does not quite 
match and I suspect the seller has respooled from a bulk spool of another 
brand. I still have an old Gudebrod colour chart from about 1986 that lists 2 
other red colours being #355 Candy Apple Red and #206 Garnet. I suspect I have 
been scammed but at least I have 2x 100 yard spools of red for future builds. I 
never though that 1 rod would use more than 100 yards of thread but there was 
quite a bit of wastage as the intermediate wraps were only 4 or 5 turns and 
just handling the section they woud come undone if not varnished. 

Nev



On Nov 13, 2019, at 3:05 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:

Nev,
Do you have a number for that thread. I might have it in my Gudebrod stash of 
wrapping thread.
I will have to wait till I can get a friend to come by to check for me, not 
able to go down stairs yet
Arkansas Tony

On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 4:19:53 PM CST, Neville Gosling 
 wrote:




Hi Chuck

I needed a specific brand, size and colour as I had already used up the first 
100yd spool and needed another to finish the rod. Since I started with a 
certain red numbered colour by Gudebrod, I had to get some of the same size, 
brand and colour. Gudebrod closed down around 8 years or so ago Due to the 
scarcity of this puduct, I only found 2 sellers with the colour/size that I 
wanted. They were offering old stock and one of them was so old that the spools 
in question were wooden. The thicker sizes were available in limited quantity 
but not the “A” that I needed. The rod that I was restoring for a friend is a 
1938 Hardy Gold Medal - 4 pieces including 2 tips and intermediate wraps every 
inch or so. By the time I had finished there were 171 thread wraps including 
the splint end ferrules and guides.

Nev


On Nov 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> wrote:

Neville: Your welcome. No, I don’t have any rod wrapping thread but surely 
there must be some on ebay etc?? Chuck
 
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Neville Gosling
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 12:39 PM
To: VFB mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod
 
Hi Chuck:
 
Thanks for the offer, but it is the rod wrapping thread in size A that I wanted 
and I have now got it albeit at a steep price. I did buy a fairly large amount 
of Gudebrod fly tying thread on ebay after they went out of business in 
primarily 8/0 and 10/0 with some 6/0 and 3/0 in limited colours. Thanks again 
but I am well stocked in fly tying threads.
 
Neville (Nev) Gosling
 
 
On Nov 13, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> wrote:
 
Nev: Do you need some Guderbrod thread?? Let me know as I have a lot of it, but 
I mostly use Danville Fly master plus these days. I have about  15 spools of 
Guderbrod I’lll give you a good deal on (FREE LOL) if you email me at 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net <mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> with 
your address. I even have a new spool of that Guderbrod scarlet color in 3/0. 
The other color range from black to white and every color in between. Some are 
on reg sized spools, while others are on the wide skinny spools and in 3/0, 
6,0, and 8/0 in size. I can do that as I have enough thread to last two 
lifetimes, but like I said, I have gotten used to the Danville’s. Chuck
 
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Rene Zillmann
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:08 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod
 
Hi Nev,

so true, the list has slowed down a lot.
However, it is also our responsibility to revive it a bit.

My fishing was slow this year for known reasons. One of my grandkids took me 
out for fishing. Well, this 4 year old asked my a couple of time, if we 
shouldn't go out and catch some fish. That's more precise. He is now eager to 
ty some flies with me.
Tying season is ahead of us, so I'll intend to stock my boxes with my hoppers, 
the blue (parachute) beetle and some EHCs.

However, I'm wondering if I shouldn't add something new to my arsenal. For 
trout. Suggestions?

KR
Rene




On 11/13/2019 03:48 AM, Neville Gosling wrote:
> No wonder this site is not getting much traffic. I just did a search for "The 
> Virtual Flybox” and every virtual or non-vitual flbox is there except VFB. 
> There is a virtual flybox in Colorado with the same name but nary a word 
> about us. Maybe I should have searched for "Byard Miller’s Virtual Flybox". 
> Unfortunantly, since Byard lost interest in maintianing the site, we seem to 
> have slipped to th

Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Chuck

I needed a specific brand, size and colour as I had already used up the first 
100yd spool and needed another to finish the rod. Since I started with a 
certain red numbered colour by Gudebrod, I had to get some of the same size, 
brand and colour. Gudebrod closed down around 8 years or so ago Due to the 
scarcity of this puduct, I only found 2 sellers with the colour/size that I 
wanted. They were offering old stock and one of them was so old that the spools 
in question were wooden. The thicker sizes were available in limited quantity 
but not the “A” that I needed. The rod that I was restoring for a friend is a 
1938 Hardy Gold Medal - 4 pieces including 2 tips and intermediate wraps every 
inch or so. By the time I had finished there were 171 thread wraps including 
the splint end ferrules and guides.

Nev


On Nov 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Chuck Alexander  
wrote:

Neville: Your welcome. No, I don’t have any rod wrapping thread but surely 
there must be some on ebay etc?? Chuck
 
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Neville Gosling
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 12:39 PM
To: VFB mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod
 
Hi Chuck:
 
Thanks for the offer, but it is the rod wrapping thread in size A that I wanted 
and I have now got it albeit at a steep price. I did buy a fairly large amount 
of Gudebrod fly tying thread on ebay after they went out of business in 
primarily 8/0 and 10/0 with some 6/0 and 3/0 in limited colours. Thanks again 
but I am well stocked in fly tying threads.
 
Neville (Nev) Gosling
 
 
On Nov 13, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> wrote:
 
Nev: Do you need some Guderbrod thread?? Let me know as I have a lot of it, but 
I mostly use Danville Fly master plus these days. I have about  15 spools of 
Guderbrod I’lll give you a good deal on (FREE LOL) if you email me at 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net <mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> with 
your address. I even have a new spool of that Guderbrod scarlet color in 3/0. 
The other color range from black to white and every color in between. Some are 
on reg sized spools, while others are on the wide skinny spools and in 3/0, 
6,0, and 8/0 in size. I can do that as I have enough thread to last two 
lifetimes, but like I said, I have gotten used to the Danville’s. Chuck
 
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Rene Zillmann
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:08 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod
 
Hi Nev,

so true, the list has slowed down a lot.
However, it is also our responsibility to revive it a bit.

My fishing was slow this year for known reasons. One of my grandkids took me 
out for fishing. Well, this 4 year old asked my a couple of time, if we 
shouldn't go out and catch some fish. That's more precise. He is now eager to 
ty some flies with me.
Tying season is ahead of us, so I'll intend to stock my boxes with my hoppers, 
the blue (parachute) beetle and some EHCs.

However, I'm wondering if I shouldn't add something new to my arsenal. For 
trout. Suggestions?

KR
Rene




On 11/13/2019 03:48 AM, Neville Gosling wrote:
> No wonder this site is not getting much traffic. I just did a search for "The 
> Virtual Flybox” and every virtual or non-vitual flbox is there except VFB. 
> There is a virtual flybox in Colorado with the same name but nary a word 
> about us. Maybe I should have searched for "Byard Miller’s Virtual Flybox". 
> Unfortunantly, since Byard lost interest in maintianing the site, we seem to 
> have slipped to the bottom of the list or even right off! It it little wonder 
> that we get little interest from newcomers. It really is a shame. 
>  
> Changing the subject, does anyone know or remember when thread maker Gudebrod 
> went out of business after losing a conract to supply dental floss which it 
> seems was keeping the company going. I lose track of time but it must have at 
> least 5 or more years ago. I recently restored a Hardy split-cane rod and 
> used a new spool of red Gudebrod thread that I had but I ran out before 
> finishing the rod and had to pay a small fortune for 2x100 yard spools of 
> scarlet thread to finish the job and repace what I had used.
>  
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
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Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Chuck:

Thanks for the offer, but it is the rod wrapping thread in size A that I wanted 
and I have now got it albeit at a steep price. I did buy a fairly large amount 
of Gudebrod fly tying thread on ebay after they went out of business in 
primarily 8/0 and 10/0 with some 6/0 and 3/0 in limited colours. Thanks again 
but I am well stocked in fly tying threads.

Neville (Nev) Gosling


On Nov 13, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Chuck Alexander  
wrote:

Nev: Do you need some Guderbrod thread?? Let me know as I have a lot of it, but 
I mostly use Danville Fly master plus these days. I have about  15 spools of 
Guderbrod I’lll give you a good deal on (FREE LOL) if you email me at 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net <mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> with 
your address. I even have a new spool of that Guderbrod scarlet color in 3/0. 
The other color range from black to white and every color in between. Some are 
on reg sized spools, while others are on the wide skinny spools and in 3/0, 
6,0, and 8/0 in size. I can do that as I have enough thread to last two 
lifetimes, but like I said, I have gotten used to the Danville’s. Chuck
 
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rene 
Zillmann
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:08 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod
 
Hi Nev,

so true, the list has slowed down a lot.
However, it is also our responsibility to revive it a bit.

My fishing was slow this year for known reasons. One of my grandkids took me 
out for fishing. Well, this 4 year old asked my a couple of time, if we 
shouldn't go out and catch some fish. That's more precise. He is now eager to 
ty some flies with me.
Tying season is ahead of us, so I'll intend to stock my boxes with my hoppers, 
the blue (parachute) beetle and some EHCs.

However, I'm wondering if I shouldn't add something new to my arsenal. For 
trout. Suggestions?

KR
Rene



On 11/13/2019 03:48 AM, Neville Gosling wrote:
> No wonder this site is not getting much traffic. I just did a search for "The 
> Virtual Flybox” and every virtual or non-vitual flbox is there except VFB. 
> There is a virtual flybox in Colorado with the same name but nary a word 
> about us. Maybe I should have searched for "Byard Miller’s Virtual Flybox". 
> Unfortunantly, since Byard lost interest in maintianing the site, we seem to 
> have slipped to the bottom of the list or even right off! It it little wonder 
> that we get little interest from newcomers. It really is a shame.
>  
> Changing the subject, does anyone know or remember when thread maker Gudebrod 
> went out of business after losing a conract to supply dental floss which it 
> seems was keeping the company going. I lose track of time but it must have at 
> least 5 or more years ago. I recently restored a Hardy split-cane rod and 
> used a new spool of red Gudebrod thread that I had but I ran out before 
> finishing the rod and had to pay a small fortune for 2x100 yard spools of 
> scarlet thread to finish the job and repace what I had used.
>  
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
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[VFB] A Sense of Humour

[Neville Gosling]

Alan Di Somma has a sense of humour…….

Real funny Scotty?
Now beam down my clothes!


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[VFB] VFB & Gudebrod

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No wonder this site is not getting much traffic. I just did a search for "The 
Virtual Flybox” and every virtual or non-vitual flbox is there except VFB. 
There is a virtual flybox in Colorado with the same name but nary a word about 
us. Maybe I should have searched for "Byard Miller’s Virtual Flybox". 
Unfortunantly, since Byard lost interest in maintianing the site, we seem to 
have slipped to the bottom of the list or even right off! It it little wonder 
that we get little interest from newcomers. It really is a shame.

Changing the subject, does anyone know or remember when thread maker Gudebrod 
went out of business after losing a conract to supply dental floss which it 
seems was keeping the company going. I lose track of time but it must have at 
least 5 or more years ago. I recently restored a Hardy split-cane rod and used 
a new spool of red Gudebrod thread that I had but I ran out before finishing 
the rod and had to pay a small fortune for 2x100 yard spools of scarlet thread 
to finish the job and repace what I had used.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC  Canada

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[VFB] Jimmy D. Moore Obituary

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https://www.wacotrib.com/obituaries/moore-jimmy/article_7c43e074-78d8-59ff-aa1f-2e5ff032318f.html
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[VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

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I just found this on the Waco Tribune

https://www.wacotrib.com/obituaries/moore-jimmy/article_7c43e074-78d8-59ff-aa1f-2e5ff032318f.html
 












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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

[Neville Gosling]

All the early members of VFB will remember Jimmy D.Moore just as we remember 
Byard’s pall Murph. 
I passed the sad news on to Don Ordes and this was his response

"So very sad. Prayers on the way."

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver BC


> On Sep 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
> 
> It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my good 
> friend Jimmy  passed away yesterday.
> 
> I am in Texas now and will be attending his funeral. I will appreciate it if 
> you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and his wife Jody.
> 
> When I get more info I will pass it on.
> 
> 
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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes update

[Neville Gosling]

Well - another lurker from way back when! How are you doing Tom? If I remember 
rightly, you were turning wooden reel seat blanks on your lathe a few years 
ago. I think that you have mis-typed walks for talks because Tony is unable to 
manage long walks but he still does fine work building bamboo 1 wt rods!

Until just last week, I was having problems with excessive robocalls to my 
mobile phone usually 800 numbers but not always and frequently in Chinese. I 
contacted my phone company and they did something their end to stop the 
robocalls and so far it has been very effective and the best part is that it 
cost nothing. You can get software to remove junk email before it gets to you - 
something to consider.

Anyhow, it is good to hear from you again as it has been a long time.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver, BC
Canada

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Tom Davenport  wrote:
> 
> Sorry to hear about Don’s pain issues. I’m glad, however to know that Tony is 
> taking long walks!  I think often of my VFB friends in Arkansas and environs, 
> but have pretty much  abandoned email because of constant junk mail. (As I 
> write this I have 1000 unread emails, scattered among them are some VFB 
> posts.) 
> 
> I have the same problem on my phone, I’ll get 20 calls a day from spammers, 
> I’ll only answer a call that’s in my contacts list. 
> 
> Anyway, I’m alive and well and still fishing, and enjoy reading the VFB posts 
> I manage to see. Best wishes to both Tony and Don, and all of you that are 
> able to help them out occasionally as they deal with the indignities of 
> aging. As my mother said on her 90th birthday “Getting old isn’t for sissies!”
> 
> Tom Davenport 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Neville Gosling  <mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tony:
>> 
>> I am pleased to learn that you made contact with DonO. It must be horrible 
>> for him to be in such constant pain. 
>> 
>> Nev
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 7:26 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>>> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had a long talk with Don a couple of weeks ago almost a hour. He was in 
>>> good spirits.
>>> That is about all I can say, will be calling him again in a week or two.
>>> Arkansas Tony.
>>> On Friday, September 13, 2019, 4:45:16 PM CDT, Neville Gosling 
>>> mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As I hadn't heard from Don O for sometime,  I decided to give him a call. 
>>> He asked me to say “Hi” to  everyone at VFB and that he misses everyone. 
>>> Don advised that he has good days and bad days and if it wasn't for the 
>>> severe pain he would be much better. His right side has lttle strength or 
>>> control which makes it hard for him to get about in a wheelchair. True to 
>>> form with his sense of humour, he joked that all he does is to go round in 
>>> circles. His friends who help him to put a hook in a fly vice and thread 
>>> the bobbins etc are out of town at present and so he is temporarily unable 
>>> to tie flies but plans to continue as soon as he is able to.
>>> 
>>> Neville (Nev) Gosling for Don Ordes
>>> 

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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes update

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Hi Tony:

I am pleased to learn that you made contact with DonO. It must be horrible for 
him to be in such constant pain. 

Nev

> On Sep 14, 2019, at 7:26 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>  wrote:
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> Had a long talk with Don a couple of weeks ago almost a hour. He was in good 
> spirits.
> That is about all I can say, will be calling him again in a week or two.
> Arkansas Tony.
> On Friday, September 13, 2019, 4:45:16 PM CDT, Neville Gosling 
>  wrote:
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> As I hadn't heard from Don O for sometime,  I decided to give him a call. He 
> asked me to say “Hi” to  everyone at VFB and that he misses everyone. Don 
> advised that he has good days and bad days and if it wasn't for the severe 
> pain he would be much better. His right side has lttle strength or control 
> which makes it hard for him to get about in a wheelchair. True to form with 
> his sense of humour, he joked that all he does is to go round in circles. His 
> friends who help him to put a hook in a fly vice and thread the bobbins etc 
> are out of town at present and so he is temporarily unable to tie flies but 
> plans to continue as soon as he is able to.
> 
> Neville (Nev) Gosling for Don Ordes
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[VFB] Don Ordes update

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As I hadn't heard from Don O for sometime,  I decided to give him a call. He 
asked me to say “Hi” to  everyone at VFB and that he misses everyone. Don 
advised that he has good days and bad days and if it wasn't for the severe pain 
he would be much better. His right side has lttle strength or control which 
makes it hard for him to get about in a wheelchair. True to form with his sense 
of humour, he joked that all he does is to go round in circles. His friends who 
help him to put a hook in a fly vice and thread the bobbins etc are out of town 
at present and so he is temporarily unable to tie flies but plans to continue 
as soon as he is able to.

Neville (Nev) Gosling for Don Ordes

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Re: [VFB] Jimi - Desert Eagle

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Thanks for discovering this Rene. I don’t think anyone of VFB were aware.

I remember Jimi Genzling aka Desert Eagle. He was younger than I thought. He 
often had medical problems and sought help from veteran affairs or equivalent. 
His daughter Amanda  went into nursing if I remember correctly. Rest in peace 
Jimi!

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC Canada

> On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Rene Zillmann  wrote:
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> Flytyers,
> 
> many of you know Jimi, I met him twice at the Sowbug.
> 
> Found this sad news today.
> 
> https://www.westfuneralhomellc.com/obituary/james-genzling?fh_id=13587
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> May he rest in peace
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Re: [VFB] Wow... You folks are still posting to this forum

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Me Too……….Neville (Nev) Gosling


> On Sep 4, 2019, at 2:13 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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> Once in a While.  Glad to see your name.
> 
> Rick 
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> On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 1:33:13 PM CDT, byard  
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> I'm amazed! Hope this finds you all well.
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> keep tyin'...byard
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[VFB] Thanks for the update Tony

[Neville Gosling]

Hey Tony:

 

It is good to see your status quo even if it is not the status that you would 
prefer. Getting old is no fun but I haven’t found a way to beat it yet. So much 
for the “Golden Years”. Both you and Don have experienced severe health 
problems. Don’s situation is particularly unfortunate as he is younger than 
both you and I. Talking of fingers stiffening up, I am waiting to see a 
specialist for “Trigger finger” which is a repeat of the same condition I had 
10 or so years ago and I know what it is like to have stiff fingers. I admire 
you for trying to build a 1 weight rod - that must be more of a challenge than 
a 5 weight. I am glad that both you and your daughter’s family were reunited 
briefly with the plane that you built 59 years ago.

Please continue to paste to the list as and when you can because we are all 
concerned for you and want to know how you are doing. You continue to be in my 
thoughts and prayers.

Neville (Nev) Gosling



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Don, thanks foe the good wishes. I am status quo. Not doing much. 
Last Saturday I got a ride to the Branson show. I was able to tie a few Chili 
Peppers. That is the most I have tied in almost three years. Fingers stiffen up 
and freeze up that way for several minuets. This makes it hard trying to tie.
I have been trying to get a 1 WT rod made for a friend. Started it over 6 
months ago. I might get it done in a couple of months, Dot insists I have a 
"baby sitter" when I go downstairs. hard to just snap my fingers to get one 
when I can work. When I can work it is only or an hour as the pain in my stump 
gets to more than I can handle.
Enough of my griping, I really miss not being active on the list.
Not fly related, The owner of my plane I designed and built 59 years ago flew 
up from Kentucky to visit with us two weeks ago. This was while my daughters 
family were here. They had never seen my plane. My daughter was just 3 when it 
was sold due to my heart attack. I had not seen my baby in about 30 years. Last 
time I saw her is when I did a show in SLC. I loved seeing her again.

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Re: [VFB] DonO still has his sense of humour

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Chuck - Very big grin!

It seems that my message got a bit dishevelled.
Nev

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 5:46 PM, Chuck Alexander  
> wrote:
> 
> Don, Nev: You’re  poet and don’t know it, but ya really do show it LOL Chuck
>  
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Neville Gosling
> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 5:14 PM
> To: VFB mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: [VFB] DonO still has his sense of humour
>  
> DonO Thats the abbrev. GTMB. 
>  
> Nev  I am laughing with the noise of a drain in rain !
>  
> DonO   Your laugh rhymes?
> 
> I laugh with the pain, hope there's some gain in my 
> brain, so I don't go insane.
> 
>  
> Nwev   A poet as well朗!
>  
> DonO   I couldn't restrain myself. 
>  
> Nev  Good to see that you still have a sense of humour !
>  
> DonO   Not much else works. 
> 
> Wife, daughter and grandkids, son & DIL. And the pups.
> 
> 
>  a large scotch. It may not make the paingo away but a least you can enjoy 
> the scotch a large scotch. It may not make the pain go away but a least you 
> canhe scotch a large scotch. It may not make the pain go away but a least you 
> can enjoy the scotch keep plugging  along for 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> these guys:
> 
>  
> 
> Wife, daughter and grandkids, son & DIL. On Yahoo or Bing, check Don Ordes - 
> fantasy flies/images, and tell me what you think. My fly legacy if I can't 
> make it happen again.bout 2/3 shown.
>  a large scotch. It may not make the pain go away but a least 
> you can enjoy the hand, daughter and grandkids, son & DIL. And the pups.
> 
> 
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[VFB] Don O -This picture did not come through

[Neville Gosling]

<<< image/jpeg: EXCLUDED >>>

[VFB] More DonO

[Neville Gosling]

>From DonO

In the car waiting for the wife. 
Thanks for posting for me. 

Give Them My Best
珞
Don

I asked DonO what he meant by GTMB in his previous text message and the above 
is his answer.

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[VFB] DonO update 05 Aug 2019

[Neville Gosling]

Dear Fellow VFB’ers

Traded a couple of texts with DonO this morning and here is his response. It 
must be very tough to be in almost constant pain. He uses an iPad but even that 
is difficult for him. I phoned him a few days ago, but no answer and I didn’t 
want to bother him any further.

"Thanks Nev..
Still battling the pain syndrome. 
Got some pink squirrels tied with a friend, coming along.珞. Please
Tell the VFB friends I think about them a lot and miss being able to share 
posts.
Have so many new rope-dub ideas but no can tie yet to demonstrate.
How are Tony and the rest doing? GTMB "

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver, BC

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Fwd: [VFB] From Rene

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Dear Grandad Rene!

Great news and by the way I suspect that they will be home long before 
Christmas. 


Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC  Canada




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> That’s great news. Chuck
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> today we got great news. Anna had a visit from the head physician (he is 
> reporting on a regular basis), and he is very satisfied how the 2 girls are 
> doing. We have still a very long road ahead of us, nobody expect that they 
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[VFB] Message from Don O

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Following message received from Don Ordes a short while ago.


How did the message go?
Thanks so much again. I may try to open my pc this weekend. Feeling good 
streaks lasting longer. I hope to try tying this weekend.

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Re: [VFB] What's everyone doing?

[Neville Gosling]

Gosh Jerry. Haven’t heard from in in ages! Glad that you are out fishin'

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Jun 28, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Chuck Alexander  
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Jerry: Sounds like a great time, Chuck
 
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of JERALD 
CARUSO
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Subject: Re: FW: [VFB] What's everyone doing?
 
Just go back from a week of fishing a couple of lakes in the Poconos.  Had good 
weather, fishing was off most days, catching 6 and 12 bluegills and red ear 
sunfish, with an occasional bass or chain pickerel.  One day it exploded, I 
ended up catching 36 sunfish, the majority between 8 and 10 inches long, and 
one 14 inch largemouth to top it off.  This in about 3 hours.  My arm was sore 
by the time they quit hitting.  Still haven't unpacked my camera, but will post 
a couple of pictures.  They all came from one spot in a small cove. Made the 
whole trip worth it..
 
Jerry Caruso
"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."

> On June 28, 2019 at 6:44 PM Chuck Alexander  > wrote: 
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> Reuven: First off, good to see you’re alive and well. Secondly, can you tell 
> me the carp patterns you use??? I normally use that water plant pattern that 
> was invented by that Nun, but so far, not too productive for me. My main 
> problem I think is sneaking up on the carp as when you get within 50-60ft and 
> make the slightest sound they get gone from there. But I want to try 
> different patters as well as we have HUGE (over 5-6ft) carp here by the 
> millions. Thanks, Chuck
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> Hi all:
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> I flew to France from Israel a couple days ago for a two week holiday with 
> the family. Fishing for carp in the lakes with the kids (they take carp VERY 
> seriously here!). 
> 
> I am near Bordeaux so will flyfish the Dordonne (horrible spelling I am 
> sure). It is a big and weedy river but there are some narrow, quiey 
> stretches. Cannot travel without a couple fly rods in the suitcase. 
> 
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> one hand, baguette in the other, and cold beer in the pocket and teach those 
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[VFB] Resending as did not see it post to VFB

[Neville Gosling]

Dear Don O

Sorry to learn of your continued medical problems.  Don’t give up on the long 
term as I am sure that you will eventually get there. I am in absolutely no 
hurry; in fact, I don’t even need the swap flies. Your health is more important 
to me than that. When you announced this swap, I really thought that you were 
recovering ok from your stroke but it now seems you have dealt another blow. 
I’m sure you will get there Don, but it is going to take longer than you, I or 
the rest of the swappers figured. Take time to heal first.

I want you to concentrate on getting better and don’t worry about the swap at 
all. That’s my 2 cents

Neville (Nev) Gosling


> On May 19, 2019, at 1:04 PM, DonO  > wrote:
> 
> To all pink squirrel swappers. So sorry to make you wait so long. 
> My hand is finally coming around to where I can tie once more. Tried a few 
> times – awful and slow results. 2 min fly takes an hour plus.
> Very slow recovery from a couple of nightmare nerve pain medications – side 
> effect almost killed me.
> But I Can finally hold the bobbin again, with the sleeves.
>  
> The long-term is still questionable except for pain. But I am still trying. 
> Trying a new therapy- promising results.
>  
> Alan has offered to finish the swap for me, but I’d like to finish it, as it 
> will probably be my last swap.
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> Pl ease let me know what you want me to do.

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Re: [VFB] Cheap but good fly line

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The very cheap line is likely Chinese made. Are they both weight forward lines 
or both double tapers? You can’t really compare if they are not the same. For 
floating lines, it remains to be seen if they continue to float after normal 
use. It is not casting distance but overall performace  that counts.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Vancouver BC


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> Folks: About 2-3 weeks ago, I ordered a $59.95 spool of Orvis fly line as it 
> was on sale for $29.95. It casts great. BUT, that same day, I ordered a spool 
> of no brand of eBay because it was only $5.99 plus 99 cents shipping just to 
> see what the difference is between the higher dollar brand name and the no 
> brand stuff. I stung it up this morning and there IS a difference. And that 
> difference is this. That no name spool outcasts the Orvis line by a mile. I 
> couldn’t believe how that cheap stuff casts both in distance and in accuracy. 
> I highly recommend it for sure. I ordered a 6wt line and put it on a 5/6 wt 
> rod btw. Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15

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Hi Tony:

Both you and Don have both had a really tough time and I feel for both of
you. I am glad that you have overcome pneumonia because that is much more
serious than most people think. Get plenty of rest, try to keep moving as
best you can and eat carefully. Best wishes.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 4:19 AM Neville Gosling 
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> Hi DonO;
>
> Sorry to learn that you are still in a lot of pain. As far as I am
> concerned you can take as much time as you like to sort the flies
> especially as it may cause you pain - for me there is no hurry whatsoever.
>
> Nevile (Nev) Gosling
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:59 PM Gary Webb  wrote:
>
>> Don,  Tony
>>
>> I'm so happy to hear from you both.  But so sorry to hear of your pains.
>>  You are in my/our prayers.
>> Wish I could go to The Sow Bug again.   But Susan my wife has a lot of
>> constant pain herself.  Too long a ride
>> from Wisconsin to Arkansas.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:02 PM DonO  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gary and all swappers,
>>>
>>> I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently
>>> that my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome  or
>>> “post-stroke central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain
>>> syndrome.
>>>
>>> Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with
>>> the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible.
>>>
>>> So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to
>>> be my life.
>>>
>>> I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of
>>> commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues
>>> are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though
>>> it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way.
>>>
>>> So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of
>>> flies, plus tie my set.
>>>
>>> I’ll give an update after my first flies.
>>>
>>> I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive.
>>>
>>> If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the
>>> pain, I have a fall-back plan or two.
>>>
>>> Cheers, DonO
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update?
>>>
>>> Don,  actually I just want to be sure you are OK.
>>>
>>> Gary
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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15

[Neville Gosling]

Hi DonO;

Sorry to learn that you are still in a lot of pain. As far as I am
concerned you can take as much time as you like to sort the flies
especially as it may cause you pain - for me there is no hurry whatsoever.

Nevile (Nev) Gosling


On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:59 PM Gary Webb  wrote:

> Don,  Tony
>
> I'm so happy to hear from you both.  But so sorry to hear of your pains.
>  You are in my/our prayers.
> Wish I could go to The Sow Bug again.   But Susan my wife has a lot of
> constant pain herself.  Too long a ride
> from Wisconsin to Arkansas.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:02 PM DonO  wrote:
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>> Hi Gary and all swappers,
>>
>> I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that
>> my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome  or “post-stroke
>> central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome.
>>
>> Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with
>> the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible.
>>
>> So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to
>> be my life.
>>
>> I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of
>> commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues
>> are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though
>> it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way.
>>
>> So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of
>> flies, plus tie my set.
>>
>> I’ll give an update after my first flies.
>>
>> I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive.
>>
>> If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the
>> pain, I have a fall-back plan or two.
>>
>> Cheers, DonO
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update?
>>
>> Don,  actually I just want to be sure you are OK.
>>
>> Gary
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Re: [VFB] Mike Martinek

[Neville Gosling]

Yes, I remember him although I have not heard about him for many years. Mike 
Martinek tied flies in the Carrie Stevens style. I think years ago that he even 
had some extra longshank streamer hooks made by Partridge of Redditch. Sad news.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

> On Jan 21, 2019, at 4:50 AM, Pacres  wrote:
> 
> Peggy, thanks for passing this along. I'm sad to hear that Mike passed. He 
> was a huge inspiration to me and many other tyers who tied featherwing 
> streamers. He self-published 2 books of streamer flies, mostly ones he 
> designed as well as some that his friends had created. They are tough to 
> find, Mike used to sell these at the shows he tied at. He also did a couple 
> of videos with the Hooked on Fly Tying production. 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsZovFwyuQ4 
> 
> 
> D
> 
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 07:20, Ron Boutin  > wrote:
> Mike was not a VFB member but a well known tyer. He specialized in streamers 
> and knew all about their history. I think he may even authored a book on the 
> subject. He tyed at many of the shows.  I watched him tie a few times,
> 
> Ron
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 20, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Chuck Alexander  > wrote:
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>> Peggy: Who are you talking about. Mike Martinek?? I’ve been in this group 14 
>> yrs (I think LOL) now and don’t remember ever seeing that name here. Was he 
>> a lurker?? Go by another name etc etc?? Chuck
>> 
>>  
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>> Subject: [VFB] Mike Martinek
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> For those who knew him from the shows he passed a week or so ago at 72. He 
>> had lived in assisted living for the past 5 years unable to get around, life 
>> in the e fast lane caught up.
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Re: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[Neville Gosling]

OK DonO count me in

Nev

> On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 PM, DonO  wrote:
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> HI Neville.
>  
> These are very simple ties, so I figured a couple of months after sign-up 
> period, which should be about a month.
>  
> DonO
>  
> From: Neville Gosling <mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 5:49 PM
> To: VFB <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
>  
> When is the submission deadline? I hhave rather a lot on right now but 
> wouldn’t mind joining in.
>  
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC
>  
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Chuck Alexander > <mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> I’d like in on it, Chuck
>>  
>> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> DonO
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:15 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
>>  
>>  
>> Howdy All,
>>  
>> I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need 
>> to keep my energy up.
>>  
>> I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate 
>> for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it 
>> and have probably fished it.
>>  
>> If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this 
>> pattern!
>>  
>> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=i=j==s=images==rja=8=2ahUKEwjmuL2ap_jfAhUzO30KHVJODEEQjRx6BAgBEAU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.troutnut.com%2Ffly-fishing-trip%2Fon-2004_04_16=AOvVaw0IhtUjOjfTayVguBjYRlXv=1547934387826368>
>>  
>> Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)
>>  
>> 1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
>> 2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
>> 3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
>> 4.  Broad range of quarry fish
>> 5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose
>>  
>> 6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
>> 7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for 
>> a collar per the photo archives)
>> 8.  Gold or silver bead
>> 9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern
>>  
>> 10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
>> 11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
>> Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something 
>> special. (Story?) 
>>  
>> Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 
>>  
>> Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.
>>  
>> All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
>> with a common theme.
>>  
>> Any VFB swappers left? 
>> Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
>> have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> DonO
>>  
>>  
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Re: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[Neville Gosling]

When is the submission deadline? I hhave rather a lot on right now but wouldn’t 
mind joining in.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC


> On Jan 18, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Chuck Alexander  
> wrote:
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> I’d like in on it, Chuck
>  
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of DonO
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:15 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
>  
>  
> Howdy All,
>  
> I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to 
> keep my energy up.
>  
> I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for 
> a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and 
> have probably fished it.
>  
> If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this pattern!
>  
> 
>  
> Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)
>  
> 1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
> 2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
> 3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
> 4.  Broad range of quarry fish
> 5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose
>  
> 6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
> 7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for 
> a collar per the photo archives)
> 8.  Gold or silver bead
> 9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern
>  
> 10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
> 11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or 
> Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something 
> special. (Story?) 
>  
> Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. 
>  
> Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.
>  
> All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations 
> with a common theme.
>  
> Any VFB swappers left? 
> Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll 
> have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.
>  
> Cheers,
> DonO
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

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It looks pretty good to me Pete! Well done!

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Nov 23, 2018, at 14:56, Pete Gramp  wrote:

Wanted to challenge myself, with my eyes starting to begin to focus a tad more 
with me getting my blood sugar numbers lower (140s this week, which is 
supposedly quite good considering I started at 1085 with the DKA), so I tied 
the attached fly - a size 16 artificial peacock quill bodied klinkhammer.  Post 
is made of Fly Tyer's Dungeon material called "Water Silk" - wanted to try it 
out, and it is ok but quite "poofy" to work with for the purpose of a post.  
Please excuse the hackle being undersized... it was a goof from poor lighting 
more than poor eyesight... and being golden badger, a pale one at that, it 
looks even smaller than it truly is... but considering I could barely focus to 
tie a size 12 a few weeks ago, I'd say I'm progressing fairly well.  Tied on my 
HMH TRV vise - love this vise, it is truly my dream vise, even if the jaws are 
a knock-off of the LAW vise jaws (personal opinion).  I view that as a plus, 
personally.
Picture attached, and hopefully I figured out how to resize it adequately... 
sorry if I didn't do it correctly.
-Pete




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Re: [VFB] Re: Hi Guys. Long time no post. :)

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Deb

Where are you located now?

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Nov 23, 2018, at 11:34, dsdur...@msn.com wrote:



Hi Don O,
Toto is doing well. I'm keeping him far away from the mice with plague here. 
I've pulled out some of my flies to display again and I'm going to start 
setting up my new tying desk this weekend. However I won't be able to use it 
just yet. My dad comes down here to stay with me through the winter and he is 
getting first claim to my extra room that will include my desk. 
My youngest son vacated his room when he left for the Navy but he will also be 
back for a week in December so I'm going to have a full house again.
I've seen some of your recent tying Don and you are doing very well. I love 
seeing that you are able to keep that sense of humor! Tell Cheryl hello and 
send her my best.
Best to you also,
Deb


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Re: [VFB] Hi Guys. Long time no post. :)

[Neville Gosling]

Wow! here’s another name from the past. Often wondered what happened to Deb 
Duran. Yes, you did use this forum. Welcome back!

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater vancouver
BC  Canada

On Nov 16, 2018, at 15:43, dsdur...@msn.com wrote:

Hi Guys,
I can't remember ever using this forum but I'm testing it out to see if this 
post comes through. I took a very long break from tying publicly, I stepped 
back from the Whting team to work on my degree. A few of you were so 
encouraging and supportive of me while I worked my way through school. THANK 
YOU!!!  I still tie for my own fishing and fun but not as much as I would like 
to. I'm in a different pond now than I was used to so I'm adjusting to that 
also. I miss the salt water. I spend more time tying Hans CDC Elk hair caddis 
flies and timy trout flies... WOW what a change for me.  I finally have a new 
desk to set up and hopefully make a more comfortable place to tie for my self 
than out of boxes. I wanted to reach out and see how Don O was doing. He's been 
on my mind.  I've kept in touch with a few of you but I have stepped very far 
back from public tying while I put myself through school and joined the working 
world. Now I finally have some time for myself again and I have been thinking 
about so many of my friends that I haven't been able to keep in touch with as 
much as I would like to .For those of you who knew me you will remember me as 
Deb Duran. 
I hope all of you are well. Tony, I still love my froggies!!! I have read some 
updates on you and I hope all is going well for you this holiday.
I've never lost touch with Peggy and I look forward to seeing you and Jerry 
this spring again.
Now with any luck this will post. Happy Holidays to you all.
Best, 
Deb Neuwirth


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Re: [VFB] Birthday wishes

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Pete:

Happy Birthday from Canada!

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver, BC



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Add my HAPPY BIRTHDAY, have a good one.
Tony

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Re: [VFB] Digest for vfb-mail@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

[Neville Gosling]

got you in Vancouver BC

Neville

On Nov 11, 2018, at 11:48, deltac...@wxs.nl wrote:

Testing…
 
Van: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ] Namens 
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Verzonden: zondag 11 november 2018 19:04
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Onderwerp: Re: [VFB] Digest for vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
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Preparing to tie some Usuals at our first pub session Tuesday.
 
Paul
 
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 11:04 AM mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
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> "J Balmer" mailto:jbal...@betadigm.com>>: Nov 10 
> 09:59AM -0600 
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> I will be tying tomorrow, spent part of yesterday organizing materials etc. 
> redoing to entire basement one square @ a time
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> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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> Hi Nobody tying? Or is the list dead?
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> On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, Rene Zillmann wrote:
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> Soft hackles this winter, then red fish flies for TexasPeggySent from my 
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>  Original message 
> From: Rene Zillmann  > 
> Date: 11/9/18 2:50 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  
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> Ok, nobody is tying any fly?Running out off hackle?R.On 11/02/2018 09:13 PM, 
> Rene Zillmann wrote:> Hi,>> winter is approaching - at least in the northern 
> part of the globe.>> What are you doing to tie next?>> I'll do 2 main 
> things:>> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body > 
> colors, to the the effect of the various colors next year.>> And I'll do some 
> variations for EHCs for a similar reason.>> And what are you doing?>>> 
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

[Neville Gosling]

You lurker Tom!

It is good to hear from you again. I thought you were gone for good. 

I use similar tactics in the spring for stillwater angling using an indicator 
for chironomids , micro balanced leeches. 

I have to start tying some for next year.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver, 
BC Canada



On Nov 11, 2018, at 06:40, Tom Davenport  wrote:

Haven’t made a post for several years but continue to lurk. 

I’ve been doing a lot of indicator fishing in still-water and have been 
experimenting with small leach patterns using ultra light jig hooks. Not just 
the fancy fly hooks designed for use with slotted tungsten beads, but 
traditional jig hooks used by gear fisherman, in the ultra-light sizes; 1/64 oz 
- 1/124 oz. They are typically hooks in size 8 through 10 standard length (at 
least the hooks I’ve found locally) and I’ve  been using rabbit fur for the 
tails an ice dub for the body.  I’ll also simply tie them like a wooly bugger 
(chili-pepper style) 

Sometimes I’ll add a brightly colored bead in the mix, and will attach a 
traditional fly as a dropper (maybe a size 16 BHPT, or a similar chironomid. I 
think they hang better from an indicator, and impart a lot of motion to the 
dropper. 

In the past I’ve been using a bugger pattern as an attractor, but have caught 
most of the fish on the smaller dropper. With the micro-jigs the catches are 
50-50. 

Tom

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2018, at 2:17 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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> Tying Dr. Mikes for donations.  Then pan fish bitch creek, followed by furled 
> tail leeches.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> From: Rene Zillmann  >
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  
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> Subject: [VFB] What is in your vices?
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> Hi,
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> winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
> 
> What are you doing to tie next?
> 
> I'll do 2 main things:
> 
> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body colors, 
> to the the effect of the various colors next year.
> 
> And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
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Re: [VFB] Out of hospital, and now looking for fly patterns

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Pete:

Sorry to learn of your health problems. As a fairly severe diabetic myself, I 
am well aware of the danger of ketoacidosis. In fact if you remember Mark 
Delaney formerly on this list, it was ketoacidosis that caused his death.  I 
don’t think that he looked after himself as he should have done, so please make 
sure that you look after yourself and check your blood/glucose often. For me it 
is a real balancing act to try and keep it in the range that I want.

I can’t offer much in the way of fly dressings but suggest you search online 
for simple patterns as I have often found that it is the simple patterns that 
work better than the more impressive but complicate impressionistic patterns.

Hang in there and never give up.

Nevile (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver, BC Canada


On Nov 4, 2018, at 08:28, Pete Gramp  wrote:

So my not-so-brilliant body decided it would play a trick on me and would 
suddenly go into what the hospital staff called "DKA" - Diabetic ketoacidosis - 
which essentially means that while the blood sugar levels of a "normal" person 
are in the 70 to 100 range, mine were 1085 when I was admitted to the hospital 
and rushed immediately to the Emergency Room and then passed to the Intensive 
Care Unit.  Two weeks later, and 43 pounds lighter (supposedly from my organs 
eating themselves, and the muscles around them, and not from fat loss), I was 
discharged from the hospital and told I'm now a diabetic in the "severely 
diabetic" category with blood sugar levels still in the upper 200's to lower 
300's.  Still on short term disability and off work, until they get my blood 
sugars back down in the more "normal" range.  

Biggest pain in the neck, besides my general weakness, is that my eyesight 
comes and goes with the blood sugar levels.  I'm told this will get back to 
normal when my blood sugar levels return back to more reasonable levels, but 
for the time being, I am struggling with tying anything smaller than size 12.  
and to be honest, size 12 is kind of a challenge too, but I refuse to go much 
larger than that.  

Does anyone have any relatively simple fly patterns that they could send me 
off-list for some size 12 flies (dries or nymphs preferred please, as I have 
plenty of soft hackles and streamers and I don't have much opportunity for use 
of salt or salmon and my eyes aren't up for traditional wets or full dressed 
atlantic salmon or spey, etc.)?  I'm not looking for the simplicity of a san 
juan worm, but then again, I'm not much better than that with my eyesight right 
now... perhaps it is wishful thinking that I say I wish for something a bit 
more complex than that... but I desire a challenge.

Thanks for any suggestions in the way of patterns you can send off-list!
-Pete

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Neville Gosling]

Such destruction is devastating for anyone, and as you said, things will not be 
normal for a long time. It is a real concern for anyone who has family in the 
hard hit storm areas. I believe that unless we take global warming as a very 
real and imminent problem, storms like this will become more frequent. This 
summer in British Columbia we experienced the worst ever year for forest fires 
beating last year’s record and like California a lot of homes and properties 
were burned to the foundations. with the tress gone, and extremely dry 
conditions, the new danger is landslides due to local violent rainstorms. One 
woman is still missing and presumed dead when a landslide took the car she was 
driving and presumably buried it. The forest fires are usually caused by 
lightning strikes.

Will keep your family in our thoughts and prayers.

 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

British Columbia

Canada



On Oct 13, 2018, at 16:02, Chuck Alexander  
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Folks: We have a daughter in law and grandson as well as a niece and her kids 
that we knew made out alive as the Nat’l guard/Red Cross let each family call 
their families to tell them they survived via sat phone the other day. However, 
they all lost their houses. They got to go check on their houses this morning 
(couldn’t go earlier as their were live wires, gators, poisonous snakes, boards 
with nails in them etc and ALL their houses were GONE, PERIOD. All that was 
left was the foundations This taught us all a valuable lesson. You know how the 
weather ppl tell you that if you live in a mobile home, that you need to get 
out and stay out till it’s safe to return. What is taught us was this. And we 
know two as we lived in DeFuniak Spgs FL for 25 yrs and got hit by numerous 
tornadoes and hurricanes (most notably Hurricane Opal in about ’95 or ’96 I 
think. It caught us off guard and all of our kids were still living at home and 
it was supposed to hit at less than 100mph, then be much less than that 45 
miles or so inland which is where we lived. Anyway, during the night it gained 
speed and hit us at 135+ mph for 8+ hours. All we could do is lay on the floor, 
and turn the mattresses over and get under them. Course back then dopplar radar 
wasn’t as good as it is now. Anyway, I said all that to say this.
You get a direct hit by a tornado or a hurricane, you need to get out if at all 
possible because our grandson and daughter in law lived in a mobile home and 
the nieces and nephews lived in a site built house and they were both 
destroyed. You can click on the link I have provided below taken from space via 
the NOAA weather service and see the mobile home park  our daughter in law and 
grandson lived  in. Open the link and type in the search bar 1128 S. Gay Ave, 
Panama City FL 32404 United States and zoom in. See how the mobile homes (or 
what’s left of them) are at a diagonal setting right?? Before Hurricane they 
were in STRAIGHT rows.
Anyway, getting to the point of the email. Please keep our family members (and 
anybody who lost their home)  in your thoughts and prayers as “normal” is going 
to be a long way down the road. I don’t know about the nieces and nephews, but 
our grandson and daughter in law have been wanting to move u here for a while. 
So, I guess that “soon” will be NOW. They are staying at our daughter in laws 
mother in the mean  time until she settles up with the insurance company, tries 
to fine anything at all in that debris pile etc. Thanks a lot, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Tony:

I am getting them too. I think there is a scam in operation.

neville

On Oct 7, 2018, at 17:25, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:

I am doing well but as i said I have to learn to do some things different. I am 
not able to get in the shop yet to do any rod work but I plan of getting back 
to it as soon as I can.
BTW, got a load of friend requests today asking to fwd to all my friends. DO 
NOT ACCEPT ANY FRIEND REQUESTS FROM ME ON FACEBOOK.
Tony

On Saturday, October 6, 2018, 8:49:55 PM CDT, Neville Gosling 
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Hey DonO


It is great that Tony is finally home, but we haven’t heard much about how you 
are doing. I hope very well.

Neville (Nev) Gosling


On Aug 7, 2018, at 21:32, DonO mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>> 
wrote:

thank, Allan- card on the way.
Don
 
From: Allan Fish <mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 9:00 PM
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Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio
 
FYI, Tony has finally gotten out of the hospital after having a toe and part of 
his foot removed.

Tony is now in a nursing home for rehab.  He doesn't feel like having phone 
calls at this time, but would welcome cards and letters addressed to him at:

Tony Spezio
Twin Lakes Therapy and Living
6152 AR-202
Flippin, AR 72634 


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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

[Neville Gosling]

Hey DonO


It is great that Tony is finally home, but we haven’t heard much about how you 
are doing. I hope very well.

Neville (Nev) Gosling


On Aug 7, 2018, at 21:32, DonO  wrote:

thank, Allan- card on the way.
Don
 
From: Allan Fish 
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To: rodmak...@goldrush.com  ; VFB 

Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio
 
FYI, Tony has finally gotten out of the hospital after having a toe and part of 
his foot removed.

Tony is now in a nursing home for rehab.  He doesn't feel like having phone 
calls at this time, but would welcome cards and letters addressed to him at:

Tony Spezio
Twin Lakes Therapy and Living
6152 AR-202
Flippin, AR 72634 


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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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That’s good news!

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Sep 25, 2018, at 11:38, Allan Fish  wrote:

I just got a call from Tony.  He called Sunday and said that he felt like the 
walls are closing in on him.  He has not been home for 3 months.  But today 
they told him he can go home a week from tomorrow.  He is really excited.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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Is there any update on Tony since Aug 20?

Neville Gosling

On Aug 20, 2018, at 07:21, Scott Bearden  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am cross posting this from bamboo rodmakers list from yesterday. Keep Tony in 
your prayers:

"Texted with Gina this morning, and Tony has had surgery. Originally were going 
to take a toe but complications required the surgeons to take his lower leg up 
to mid-shin. Gina reports his vitals are stable as of 10:42 MST today, 8/19/18. 

-Don Smith"

Regards,

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Re: [VFB] new mouse - Percy

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Great job Don O - in fact better than I can do without having had a stroke. You 
are certainly making fast progress. Well done!

Neville (Nev) Gosling

~~~

On Aug 7, 2018, at 16:24, DonO  wrote:

To my friends at the VFB - an update and some good news.

My recovery from the stroke is going very well and quickly.  Feeling a little 
better each day, but it still feels like  I was rode hard and put up wet.

I have 'issues' with the entire right side of my body, but therapy has given me 
limited use of the affected areas.
I have progressed to a cane for walking, but I'm nowhere mobile yet.
My eyesight will take time, but I'm told it will recover- hopefully back to 
normal. No hope of tying a #32 RC right now.  40% blind (the right side of each 
eye gone).

So that leaves my right hand- the real meat of this memo.

I decided to challenge it and myself by tying a mouse pattern as my first try.  
A 1-hour tie took over 20 hours- lost track of time.  Just threading the bobbin 
took an hour (spastic muscles with no feeling), tying an anchor took 2 hours. 
You get the picture- not pretty.
But out of it crawled Percy (for 'perseverance').  He's not too tightly 
wrapped, but that applies to the tier also. But he looks good for a Baits Hotel 
resident.

Joyce knows what this fly represent in stroke therapy just 3 months in.

Next- rope dubbing.

Working on my fly casting also. Not pretty either. Neither is my penmanship.

But I did manage to draw a fly if anyone wants to see my 'Picasso'.

Regards, Don



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Re: [VFB] German Tourist Shot

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Hi Rene

Thank you for letting us know that you are OK. That is a relief  to us on VFB.

Nev



On Aug 5, 2018, at 00:13, rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote:

Hi Nev, gang,
We are save and not affected.
Was a great trip, more reports when I'm back home.
Best
Rene



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Von: "Neville Gosling" 
An: "VFB" 
Betreff: [VFB] German Tourist Shot
Datum: Sa., Aug. 4, 2018 18:10

I don’t like the look of this. The description could be Rene, his wife, son and 
son’s girlfriend. An arrest has been made but injured tourist not named.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/surgery-german-tourist-shot-in-head-1.4773260?cmp=news-digests-canada-and-world-morning
 
<https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/surgery-german-tourist-shot-in-head-1.4773260?cmp=news-digests-canada-and-world-morning>

Neville



On Aug 3, 2018, at 22:17, Neville Gosling mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>> wrote:

Yesterday a German tourist travelling with his family on Highway 1A near 
Morley, Alberta and heading to the Rocky Mountains was shot in the head.  
Apparently this was a case of mistaken identity and he was not the intended 
target of the shooting. So far the exact reason or motive has not been 
disclosed and the perpetrator has not been apprehended.. This is certainly very 
unusual but Canada has a problem with handguns coming into the country 
illegally from USA. The name of the tourist has not been released but reported 
to have received surgery to remove the bullet and is in critical but stable 
condition. I sure hope it wasn’t Rene and his family. Chances are likely that 
it is not, but it does coincide with his planned trip. 

 
Neville (Nev) Gosling

British Columbia

Canada



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Re: [VFB] German Tourist Shot

[Neville Gosling]

Rick

I have phoned 2 major Calgary hospitals and the second one told me that they 
have no one by the name of Rene Zillmann listed as a patient in any of the 
Calgary hospitals. I also tried to phone the police in Cochrane, Alberta but 
this is a long holiday weekend and I am unable to get an answer. I don’t want 
to phone the emergency number. 

Neville


On Aug 4, 2018, at 13:01, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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Thanks or the udate3.  Don't like the sound of this.

Rick


From: Neville Gosling 
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Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] German Tourist Shot

I don’t like the look of this. The description could be Rene, his wife, son and 
son’s girlfriend. An arrest has been made but injured tourist not named.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/surgery-german-tourist-shot-in-head-1.4773260?cmp=news-digests-canada-and-world-morning
 
<https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/surgery-german-tourist-shot-in-head-1.4773260?cmp=news-digests-canada-and-world-morning>

Neville



On Aug 3, 2018, at 22:17, Neville Gosling mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>> wrote:

Yesterday a German tourist travelling with his family on Highway 1A near 
Morley, Alberta and heading to the Rocky Mountains was shot in the head.  
Apparently this was a case of mistaken identity and he was not the intended 
target of the shooting. So far the exact reason or motive has not been 
disclosed and the perpetrator has not been apprehended.. This is certainly very 
unusual but Canada has a problem with handguns coming into the country 
illegally from USA. The name of the tourist has not been released but reported 
to have received surgery to remove the bullet and is in critical but stable 
condition. I sure hope it wasn’t Rene and his family. Chances are likely that 
it is not, but it does coincide with his planned trip. 
 
Neville (Nev) Gosling
British Columbia
Canada



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Re: [VFB] German Tourist Shot

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I don’t like the look of this. The description could be Rene, his wife, son and 
son’s girlfriend. An arrest has been made but injured tourist not named.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/surgery-german-tourist-shot-in-head-1.4773260?cmp=news-digests-canada-and-world-morning
 
<https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/surgery-german-tourist-shot-in-head-1.4773260?cmp=news-digests-canada-and-world-morning>

Neville



On Aug 3, 2018, at 22:17, Neville Gosling  wrote:

Yesterday a German tourist travelling with his family on Highway 1A near 
Morley, Alberta and heading to the Rocky Mountains was shot in the head.  
Apparently this was a case of mistaken identity and he was not the intended 
target of the shooting. So far the exact reason or motive has not been 
disclosed and the perpetrator has not been apprehended.. This is certainly very 
unusual but Canada has a problem with handguns coming into the country 
illegally from USA. The name of the tourist has not been released but reported 
to have received surgery to remove the bullet and is in critical but stable 
condition. I sure hope it wasn’t Rene and his family. Chances are likely that 
it is not, but it does coincide with his planned trip. 

 
Neville (Nev) Gosling

British Columbia

Canada



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[VFB] German Tourist Shot

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Yesterday a German tourist travelling with his family on Highway 1A near 
Morley, Alberta and heading to the Rocky Mountains was shot in the head.  
Apparently this was a case of mistaken identity and he was not the intended 
target of the shooting. So far the exact reason or motive has not been 
disclosed and the perpetrator has not been apprehended.. This is certainly very 
unusual but Canada has a problem with handguns coming into the country 
illegally from USA. The name of the tourist has not been released but reported 
to have received surgery to remove the bullet and is in critical but stable 
condition. I sure hope it wasn’t Rene and his family. Chances are likely that 
it is not, but it does coincide with his planned trip. 

 

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Re: [VFB] Bad news and Great news.

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Yes, much better. My father was shot by the rear gunner of a German bomber in 
North Africa during WWII.  One bullet hit him the the foot and the second 
bullet went through his leg glancing the bone in the process. He was in danger 
of having his leg amputated but the subsequent swelling and infection subsided 
just in time. He did lose his entire big toe which was amputated. He is still 
alive today at 102 years old and the loss of his toe did not stop him from 
enjoying a normal life.

The moral of this story is “Tony don’t stop doing want you want to do!”

Neville (Nev) Gosling
BC  Canada



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Better than what I thought I might read.

Rick

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Allan Fish mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
Tony Spezio called me today.  His bad news was that he had to have a toe 
amputated on Saturday.

His great news was that the surgeon felt the foot did not need to be amputated.

He is still in the hospital at the moment.

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Re: [VFB] Update

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Hi Tony:

That is not good news but it could be worse. Presumably there is nothing more 
that can be done to improve the circulation.  It sounds like you don’t have 
much choice. I have a close fishing buddy who just turned 76 who has lung 
cancer (non smoker) and is in a very bad way indeed. He has also had several 
strokes and cannot swallow food unless it is in puree form. Since the last 
stoke he can no longer use his ipad and his speech is severely impacted. A very 
sad situation.

I feel for you Tony but you don’t want to chance gangrene. Sorry to be so blunt 
but if you trust your doctor(s), being alive with one foot is better than being 
dead with two feet.  Prayers will continue for you.

Neville (Nev) Gosling


On Jul 21, 2018, at 11:42, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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Was taken to the Wound Center yesterday to see my foot doctor.
I am not happy with he had to tell me. Not enough blood circulation to save the 
foot. 
The surgery will be done when my kidneys are stable enough for the surgery. I 
personally am not ready for this.
Arkansas Tony


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Re: [VFB] Canada - fishing the Rockies

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The basic licence is what you need. Classified waters are generally for 
steelhead and usuall later in the year and some of the large trout in Trophy 
lakes.   You will be considered an alien i.e. not Canadian or BC or Alberta 
resident. I suggest that you get your BC licence in Vancouver and the Alberta 
one as soon as you enter if you can find an agent or tackle store. It is 
unlikely that you will be able to get a licence at a Provincial (Government) 
Campsite.  Be prepared for mosquitos.

Nev

On Jul 16, 2018, at 14:01, Rene Zillmann  wrote:

Hi Nev,


thanks a lot, got your emails.

For the license: I understand, I need the basic license, and additional the 
license for specific fish, and probably also for classified rivers.

Makes it sense to get the basis license, and later to purchase the extra ones 
if needed, e.g. on the campground??

Thanks a lot for your help

Rene


On 07/16/2018 10:22 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
> Hi Rene:
> 
> Due to the size of the attachments I have responded directly to your personal 
> e-mail address in 2 parts and 2 emails. Please confirm receipt
> 
> Neville
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:07, Rene Zillmann  wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> our trip to the Canadian Rockies is ahead of us. We will arrive in Vancouver 
> next week, Monday late and will from there head towards Clearwater, where we 
> will meet the family of my son, who will fly few days earlier.
> 
> Jointly we will travel from there to Wells Gray Provincial Park, later Mount 
> Roberts NP.
> 
> So, therefore we will fish in B.C. and in Alberta.
> 
> Not clear about the license requirements. Any suggestions, hints? We did read 
> some websites, quite official ones, but not clear what we need to catch some 
> large trout - beside of some flies.
> 
> 
> KR
> 
> Rene
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Re: [VFB] Canada - fishing the Rockies

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Hi Rene:

Due to the size of the attachments I have responded directly to your personal 
e-mail address in 2 parts and 2 emails. Please confirm receipt

Neville



On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:07, Rene Zillmann  wrote:

Folks,

our trip to the Canadian Rockies is ahead of us. We will arrive in Vancouver 
next week, Monday late and will from there head towards Clearwater, where we 
will meet the family of my son, who will fly few days earlier.

Jointly we will travel from there to Wells Gray Provincial Park, later Mount 
Roberts NP.

So, therefore we will fish in B.C. and in Alberta.

Not clear about the license requirements. Any suggestions, hints? We did read 
some websites, quite official ones, but not clear what we need to catch some 
large trout - beside of some flies.


KR

Rene

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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Thank you Allan for letting us know and yes, I will keep Tony & Dot  in my 
thoughts and prayers.

Neville



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Tony is currently having some pretty severe complications.  He's been in the 
hospital for a week and will likely be in for at least another week then will 
have to go to a nursing home for rehab.  He preferred that I not go into 
details on the list.

He has some requests for everyone:

1)NO CALLS TO HIS HOME -  Dot is getting overwhelmed with local calls 
and she is not in the best of shape either.
2)NO CALLS TO HIS CELL PHONE AT THIS TIME - he is having trouble 
talking and breathing and it totally exhausts him.
3)NO E-MAILS  AT THIS TIME -   Tony has no access to e-mails while he 
is in the hospital.  The last time he was in the hospital, he had received so 
many e-mails that he wasn't even able to read them and doesn't want that to 
happen again.  He hopes to be able to use his laptop once he gets in the rehab 
facility.
4)NO CARDS AT THIS TIME - they would have to go to the hospital and 
then get transferred, or they would go to his home and someone would have to go 
out there to get them and then bring them to him.

After Tony gets moved, he will let us know the best way to contact him.  

If you pray, he appreciates being kept in our prayers.  

Allan
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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

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Thanks Alan. It is good to see that Don is making progress. Recovering from a 
fairly severe stroke is a slow process but with determination he will get there 
in the end. My thoughts & prayers are still with him.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC.  Canada 



On Jun 29, 2018, at 10:36, Phxflytyer  wrote:

Just wanted to let you see the kind of progress Don O is making. Don’t ever let 
the smallest of things go unnoticed? 

Sent from my iPad

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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

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Thanks for the update Alan. Glad to learn that Don is making progress. Too bad 
about the lack of internet but that may come in time. And thanks for providing 
Don’s new address. He remains in my thought & preyers.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater vancouver
BC, Canada

On Jun 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:


Fellow VFBers:

I am sitting here in Don’s living room in the new house that we just
got him moved into and he wanted me to give you his  home address 
14505N.Presidio Loop, Nampa, ID 83651

He would like it if you could send him by snail mail because his internet is
not hooked up yet and may not be for several weeks. The internet company he
had does not serve his new home, so they will look into different means of 
getting internet. Either satellite or what ever else will be available?


Most of the packing and unloading has been done by his wife Cheryl ( a real 
saint in my book) his son Donny, and his wife Melisa. His sister that lives 
near us in Arizona has been here the past two months helping out with 
everything. My wife and I have been here for about 10 days , and planning to 
leave this Thursday. I will see if I can find a spot on the Snake River to wet 
a line on the way home?

He is still going thru physical therapy and progressing well. Hopefully his 
tying will come back as good as it was. We can only pray.



I am using my iPhone as my hot spot in order to send this.


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
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Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubber bugger swap

[Neville Gosling]

Try this URL

https://youtu.be/G8O3dS4hlJw <https://youtu.be/G8O3dS4hlJw> instead

Neville


On May 6, 2018, at 2:33 PM, Phxflytyer <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:

Can’t view it without joining Google?


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
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Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



On May 6, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@gmail.com 
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> Not sure if this will work but here goes
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U_id=G8O3dS4hlJw 
> <https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U_id=G8O3dS4hlJw>
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[VFB] Don O's Rope Dubber bugger swap

[Neville Gosling]

Not sure if this will work but here goes

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U_id=G8O3dS4hlJw 


Neville (Nev) Gosling

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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

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This is a real blow after he was looking so good following loosing weight, but 
time heals and lets pray that he recovers as fully as possible.
I have a friend in my fishing club that also suffered a stroke that was 
followed my more strokes and it came as a complete shock to everybody. He like 
Don is still in hospital.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
BC Canada



On May 1, 2018, at 10:58 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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In my prayers
Arkansas Tony

On Tue, 5/1/18,   wrote:

Subject: RE: [VFB] Don Ordes
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 12:47 PM

Hello to everyone, this is his
son, Donny. 

Thank you so
much for all the kind well wishes and words. I was able to
open Don's email and we read all of your messages to
him, as he is unable to read much.  He asked me to thank
everyone and to say hello. 

He is still recovering in the therapy unit of
St. Al's hospital in Boise. When he had the stroke he
lost the use of the right side of his body. So his arm and
hand, leg, and even his vision on the right half of his body
were all affected (he can see out of both eyes, but only
from his nose to his left side). Unfortunately he is right
handed, so using his left hand for everything is also
difficult by itself. 

However, he is steadily making progress in his
recovery and has regained the ability to move his limbs and
use them to some extent. He still requires a great deal of
assistance to get up and move, but the therapists are
optimistic that he will continue to improve. Only time will
tell how much capability he will recover. He is scheduled to
be released from the hospital to go home this Thursday, but
we will continue with having therapists come in to work with
him to help with his rehab.  

Again, thank you all  for your kind words and
support, I will continue to monitor his emails and forward
your thoughts and questions to him. 

Thank you. 

DVO


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Subject: Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

All,

are there any updates on Don?

KR

Rene


On 04/23/2018 03:44 AM, Phxflytyer wrote:
> Fellow VFB’ers..
> 
> About two weeks ago
Don Ordes had a stroke.
> He finished the
Wasatch show and was preparing to go home on Sunday.
> Sometime Saturday evening or Sunday
morning he had a stroke.
> Was in ECU for
a week and his son came and drove him home.
> He is going thru physical therapy now back
in Idaho.
> 
> It would
be great if anyone could find the time to send him a get
well email?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Thank You,
> Alan Di
Somma
> Mesa, Az.
> 
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make only once.
> 
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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

[Neville Gosling]

 f...@tribcsp.com  is the one that I used and so far 
no bounceNev

On Apr 23, 2018, at 6:48 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:

On 4/23/18 9:12 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail wrote:
> Here is what I have, has not bounced.
> Don Ordes at Trib  ,
> Tony

TRY THIS ONE:

f...@tribcsp.com 

(Fantasy Fly Company)

That's the one he's been using the last several months.

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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

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So did I…Neville

On Apr 22, 2018, at 7:00 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:


> It would be great if anyone could find the time to send him a get well email?

Just did. 

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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

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Oh dear! will do so ASAP

Neville Gosling

On Apr 22, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Phxflytyer <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:

Fellow VFB’ers..

About two weeks ago Don Ordes had a stroke. 
He finished the Wasatch show and was preparing to go home on Sunday.
Sometime Saturday evening or Sunday morning he had a stroke. 
Was in ECU for a week and his son came and drove him home. 
He is going thru physical therapy now back in Idaho. 

It would be great if anyone could find the time to send him a get well email?


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Mesa, Az.

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[VFB] Rope dubbed buggers

[Neville Gosling]

I crossed the border to Blaine, WA this a.m. and found the flies from the rope 
dub bugger swap in my PO. Box. What a great bunch of different flies. I will 
try to photograph them and post when I get a chance, unless DonO is planning to 
do this. There are a couple a small nymphs that should prove very effective 
probably from Don O and  deadly looking Schminnow buggers from Al Fish plus 
other flies from Rick Zieger, Mike Bliss, Rene Zillman, Jack Hartford, and some 
other flies whose creator I am not sure of.

Thanks to Swap Meister Don O for organizing the swap.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
Canada

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Re: [VFB] Rope-bugger swap update

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Don O 

Last I heard, you were still waiting for two more sets. Did you get them OK?

Yes, VFB has been really quite and not like the old days. Anyhow, your message 
reached Vancouver, BC


Neville (Nev) Gosling



On Mar 22, 2018, at 9:37 AM,   wrote:

I haven’t seen many vfb posts lately. Hoping to see this when/if it posts. 
 
Swap update:  
Have the flies divided up and adding my own patterns to fill out the amount, 
then some.
Will be sending out shortly. 
 
DonO
 
 

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[VFB] Jig Hooks

[Neville Gosling]

Hi Wes:

Whoops, I sent the wrong pic. Here is the correct one.

Neville (Nev) Gosling


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Re: [VFB] Phoenix trip thoughts

[Neville Gosling]

> On Feb 20, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
> 
> I like that name..will probably. Bring him with to every fishing trip to 
> Payson?
> 
> I really enjoyed our time together and look forward to more great times?
> 
> Perhaps in Idaho? But only in the summer
> 
> Patti and I enjoyed meeting the “Angles “ in your life .
> 
> Will never forget the good times shared. 
> 
> Thanks again and hope your trip home is without incident? 
> 
> Please dry carefully? Must have been really wet
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
> 
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
> 

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[VFB] More about Brut Cologne for men!

[Neville Gosling]

You dunk your flies in it to attract female trout!

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