Re: [VFB] hook swap

2012-01-03 Thread Peggy Brenner
count me in Rick. Peggy On 1/2/2012 5:31 PM, Rick Zieger wrote: Choose a hook style from the hooks at Hagensfish.com. Dai-Riki I think. Hooks are from $55 to $65/thousand. Add 10% for excise tax and $5.00 for postage. I will divinded the hooks up by weight on a scale at the chemistry deparmten

[VFB] Hagensfish hooks

2012-01-03 Thread Neville Gosling
Hi Rick: I'm not sure how this works without knowing the choice of other participants otherwise there is the possibility of duplication of popular style and size. Does each participant receive 1000 hooks? Are the hooks genuine Dai-riki (not to be confused with Daiichi) or a chinese knock-off? Th

Re: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks

2012-01-03 Thread Rick Zieger
Everyone ends up with 1000.  Give or take a cou0ple as they are weighed and not counted.  Do it ona chemistry lab scale.  Weighs iun grmass andgo out to 3 decimal places.   Rick From: Neville Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 201

Re: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks

2012-01-03 Thread Eric Worm
I am curious as to where various hooks are manufactured now?  Any hook experts out there? Tiemco- Still Japan?  Ties with Umpqua Feather Merchants. Mustad- All operations now in China Daiichi- Still Japan? DaiRiki- Japan? Korea? Partridge-  England, but now? Eagle Claw-  USA?   Eric Worm Reed C

Re: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks- standards

2012-01-03 Thread Don Ordes
Maybe someone who was in the last hook swap can tell us what the quality of the Hangensfish hooks were like??? Not only 'where' is important, but 'how' and of 'what' steel? There are wire hooks and forged hooks, and the stock , metalurgy, and batching processes need to be controlled and consis

Re: [VFB] Streamers 365!! - Dedicated to classic featherwing streamers

2012-01-03 Thread Pacres
Thanks Don and Walter. There are a few VFB folks in the project as well. Day 3's fly just went up, an original offering from Al Grombacher. Thanks for checking things out. Darren On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Walter wrote: > What a great site, I’ve been wading around for the last hour throug

[VFB] hook manufacturers

2012-01-03 Thread Neville Gosling
As I understand it, there are 3 major hook manufacturers in Japan - Daiichi, Gamakatsu, & Hayabusa and they also manufacture hooks for brands such as Tiemco. Mustad are all made in China. To my surprise, Mustad have been losing money and have recently been taken over. Dai-Riki started by being

Re: [VFB] hook manufacturers

2012-01-03 Thread Wes Wada
Add Maruto Hooks, Japan, a 100-year old fishing hook manufacturer. They have more market presence in Europe, but there are sources in the USA via eBay. A friend and I have been buying and testing this brand, and it is high quality, with eBay prices much lower than the more known hook brands. Wes

Re: [VFB] hook manufacturers

2012-01-03 Thread Neville Gosling
Wes: Maruto is one of the name brand/style of hooks manufactured and marketed by Dohitomi & Co., Ltd. Japan. This is what makes it so confusing. Which is the actual manufacturer and which is the brand? I have not tried them yet although they are available in Europe. Where can I get some? N

Re: [VFB] hook manufacturers

2012-01-03 Thread Rodger Oleson
On 1/3/2012 1:05 PM, Wes Wada wrote: Add Maruto Hooks, Japan, a 100-year old fishing hook manufacturer. They have more market presence in Europe, but there are sources in the USA via eBay. A friend and I have been buying and testing this brand, and it is high quality, with eBay prices much lo

Re: [VFB] hook manufacturers

2012-01-03 Thread Neville Gosling
Would not show when I searched on e-bay using "Saber Fly Hooks" for the search. I suspect that someone is marketing an Asian (probably Chinese) manufactured hook and calling them "Saber." There are so many like this such as "Talon" On 2012-01-03, at 11:32 AM, Rodger Oleson wrote: >> Saber F

[VFB] Allen Hooks

2012-01-03 Thread Neville Gosling
About a year or more ago, I purchased some fly hooks from an online company http://www.allenflyfishing.com/ that were listed at the time with the same hook designation as Tiemco. I was disappointed with the hooks for although the style was similar to Tiemco, the hook gape (or gap if you prefer

Re: [VFB] hook manufacturers

2012-01-03 Thread Rodger Oleson
Try this Neville: _*http://www.flyshack.com/ *_I landed on them thru Ebay, but they evidently are a regular fly shop. Rodger On 1/3/2012 1:38 PM, Neville Gosling wrote: Would not show when I searched on e-bay using "Saber Fly Hooks" for the search. I suspect that someone is marketing an Asia

[VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Neville Gosling
I came across this when searching the country of manufacture - http://rockymtnfly.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2443 I have not experience the same problem. Neville (Nev) Gosling -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send emai

[VFB] hooks

2012-01-03 Thread htmm
Saber Hooks are available at The Flyshack http://www.flyshack.com. I and most of my tying partners are using them now. Good quality, good pricing and the flyshack has been great to deal with. Henry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to

Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb. I have a draw full of flies with broken Mustad hooks. Quit using them about 15 years ago. Tony From: Neville Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: [VFB] Dai-R

Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Allan Fish
I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb. Interesting. Maybe I'm not clamping my hooks tightly enough in the vise, because I can't ever remember breaking a hook in the vise, other some 28's. And nearly all of my hooks are Mustad. Allan -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglob

[VFB] hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Neville Gosling
Before Japanese hooks hit the market, Mustad Norwegian hooks were the most common in Canada, with a few English hooks if you could find them. I have experienced 11% breakages with certain Mustad Norwegian hooks, but I probably had a bad batch. They also used to break if one smashed down the barb

Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
Allan, They were not breaking in the vise. The barbs were flattened before the flies were tyed. The hooks broke while catching fish. It was discouraging to cast for a half hour and missing fish before finding the point of the hook was gone. When you come over for Sowbug, I will show you the draw

Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Don Ordes
Strong grooved jaws cinched tightly on a ill-placed brittle hook = breakage. - Original Message - From: "Allan Fish" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage >I have had many many Mustad hooks break at the barb. Interesting. Maybe I'm

Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Don Ordes
Tony, That's what you get for catching 20lb. trout on size 14 Chili-peppers... DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage Allan, They were not breaking in t

Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
Most were broken on the pond back east on B;ue Gills and bass. Tony From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage Tony, That's what you get for catching 20lb. trout on size

Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
That is what was happening Flattening the barbs I believe fractured the point. Tony From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage Strong grooved jaws cinched tightly on a ill-pla

[VFB] Now Mustad hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Allan Fish
Most were broken on the pond back east on B;ue Gills and bass. Tony Allan, They were not breaking in the vise. The barbs were flattened before the flies were tyed. The hooks broke while catching fish. That probably explains it. That was back before they improved their quality as mentioned b

Re: [VFB] Now Mustad hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
I still have a lot of Mustad hooks maybe some day I will put them up for sale. I went to Eagle Claw hooks when I quit on the Mustads. Have been doing fine with them. Still have a load of them that I want to dispose of. I am not tying for the shops now. Tony F

Fw: Re: [VFB] Dai-Rki hook breakage

2012-01-03 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
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