Re: [VFB] vises

[Dail Graham]

I agree with Jerry,  I vote for my Renzetti Traveler and I have a Clouser Arm  
as a accessory and it really helps with large bass and musky streamers.   I 
started  tying  on a old Herters cast iron  lever jaw vise  (made in Pakistan 
years ago)  then a couple of Griffins.  Gave them all to the grandkids.  I need 
to update my traveler with cam lock jaws.  Maybe will do that after Sowlbug 
this year. I have had no trouble getting parts for the traveler.  The jaws are 
very tough.  I agree with tying with several vises and get what you are most 
comfortable with.  Dail
  - Original Message - 
  From: J McK 
  To: Fly Swap 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] vises


   
  My two cents, is Renzetti Traveler , I also have a sunrise and a Cabela's


  Jerry McKaughan,President
  Caddis Fly Fishing Club
  P. O. Box 9104
  Russellville, AR 72811
  www.caddisflyfishers.org



   
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  > I love my Peak vise built solid, holds as small as i have tied down 
  > to a 22, although you can buy a midge jaw for it
  > just my 2 cents worth
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

Thought this was off list.
Tony

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

From: Anthony Spezio 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 6:28 PM

The invitation is always there. I would like to come over there too but my 
health problems Keep me from doing it.
Tony

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Martin Westbeek  wrote:

From: Martin Westbeek 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 6:07 PM



 
I'd come over at the drop of a hat! It's just a 
matter of money (kids in college...).
Would be great to visit old friends, wouldn't 
it?
If I can swing it you'll be the first to 
know.
Mart

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:26 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  

  


  Thanks Mart,
I will look it up just for the heck of 
it.
Any chance of you getting back to the Sowbug, it has grown quite 
a bit since you were here.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Martin 
Westbeek  
wrote:


From: 
  Martin Westbeek 
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 6:01 PM


  
  The Vosseler is a great example of the 
  fact that a vise is highly personal. Some like it; I did not care 
  for at all. 
  Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the 
  base, but a suction cup instead, which just does not work on 
  many surfaces, and results in an extremely wobbly vise. 
  Well, *that* really sucks ;-) 
  Mart
   
   
  
- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Anthony Spezio 
To: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: 
Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:16 AM
Subject: 
    Re: [VFB] Vises



  
  
That is one I have not heard 
  of.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Jeff Frye  
  wrote:

  
From: 
Jeff Frye 
Subject: 
            Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 5:05 PM



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Check out the Vosseler. There is no jaw like it. The 
base is such that you will pick up the desk before the vise 
breaks free of the desk.





From: Bob 
Scarbrough 
To: 
"vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 

Sent: Wed, February 10, 
        2010 3:36:51 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] 
Vises



You guys arent much help!  :)
 
Just 
kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the 
Mongoose.
 
Bob
 


Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:30:07 -0800
From: 
    bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com



  
  
Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I 
  have about 20 vises, I collect them, and each have 
  their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can 
find 
  a number of things that don't suite me but others 
love 
  them. I have a Regal that is a fast production vise 
  but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might 
  be hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise 
  for tying some flies like the Woolly Buggers. I can 
go 
  on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King 
  Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as 
I 
  do shows and it is just the right size to travel. I 
  also have two other Dyna King vises that are smaller 
  and I take one of them when just doing a local demo 
  instead of taking the Jr.along and having to break 
  down my tying station. My Jr. and complete tying 
  station fits in a attache case as one unit along with 
  the tools I will be using at the 
  show.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Michael 
  Blis

Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

The invitation is always there. I would like to come over there too but my 
health problems Keep me from doing it.
Tony

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Martin Westbeek  wrote:

From: Martin Westbeek 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 6:07 PM



 
I'd come over at the drop of a hat! It's just a 
matter of money (kids in college...).
Would be great to visit old friends, wouldn't 
it?
If I can swing it you'll be the first to 
know.
Mart

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:26 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  

  


  Thanks Mart,
I will look it up just for the heck of 
it.
Any chance of you getting back to the Sowbug, it has grown quite 
a bit since you were here.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Martin 
Westbeek  
wrote:


From: 
  Martin Westbeek 
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 6:01 PM


  
  The Vosseler is a great example of the 
  fact that a vise is highly personal. Some like it; I did not care 
  for at all. 
  Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the 
  base, but a suction cup instead, which just does not work on 
  many surfaces, and results in an extremely wobbly vise. 
  Well, *that* really sucks ;-) 
  Mart
   
   
  
- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Anthony Spezio 
To: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: 
Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:16 AM
Subject: 
    Re: [VFB] Vises



  
  
That is one I have not heard 
  of.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Jeff Frye  
  wrote:

  
From: 
Jeff Frye 
Subject: 
            Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 5:05 PM



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Check out the Vosseler. There is no jaw like it. The 
base is such that you will pick up the desk before the vise 
breaks free of the desk.





From: Bob 
Scarbrough 
To: 
"vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 

Sent: Wed, February 10, 
        2010 3:36:51 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] 
Vises



You guys arent much help!  :)
 
Just 
kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the 
Mongoose.
 
Bob
 


Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:30:07 -0800
From: 
    bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com



  
  
Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I 
  have about 20 vises, I collect them, and each have 
  their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can 
find 
  a number of things that don't suite me but others 
love 
  them. I have a Regal that is a fast production vise 
  but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might 
  be hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise 
  for tying some flies like the Woolly Buggers. I can 
go 
  on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King 
  Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as 
I 
  do shows and it is just the right size to travel. I 
  also have two other Dyna King vises that are smaller 
  and I take one of them when just doing a local demo 
  instead of taking the Jr.along and having to break 
  down my tying station. My Jr. and complete tying 
  station fits in a attache case as one unit along with 
  the tools I will be using at the 
  show.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Michael 
  Bliss  
  wrote:

  
From: 
Michael Bliss 
        
Subject: Re: 
[VFB] Vises
To: 
vfb-ma

Re: [VFB] Vises

[Martin Westbeek]

I'd come over at the drop of a hat! It's just a matter of money (kids in 
college...).
Would be great to visit old friends, wouldn't it?
If I can swing it you'll be the first to know.
Mart
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises


Thanks Mart,
I will look it up just for the heck of it.
Any chance of you getting back to the Sowbug, it has grown quite a bit 
since you were here.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Martin Westbeek  wrote:


  From: Martin Westbeek 
          Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 6:01 PM


  The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a vise is highly 
personal. Some like it; I did not care for at all. 
  Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but a suction cup 
instead, which just does not work on many surfaces, and results in an extremely 
wobbly vise. Well, *that* really sucks ;-) 
  Mart


- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:16 AM
            Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises


  That is one I have not heard of.
  Tony

  --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Jeff Frye  wrote:


From: Jeff Frye 
            Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 5:05 PM


Check out the Vosseler. There is no jaw like it. The base 
is such that you will pick up the desk before the vise breaks free of the desk.





From: Bob Scarbrough 
To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 3:36:51 PM
            Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises

You guys arent much help!  :)
 
Just kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the 
Mongoose.
 
Bob
 


Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:30:07 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
            Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

  Bob,
  I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, 
I collect them, and each have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can 
find a number of things that don't suite me but others love them. I have a 
Regal that is a fast production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the 
lever might be hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some 
flies like the Woolly Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use 
the Dyna King Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows 
and it is just the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises 
that are smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of 
taking the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and 
complete tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the tools 
I will be using at the show.
  Tony

  --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Michael Bliss 
 wrote:


From: Michael Bliss 
                Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM


Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type 
of thing.  I started on a Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then 
a Regal.  A few years ago I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  
Each seems to have its particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your 
vise, don't change.  If it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises 
and opinions.  I think Hans W. did a fine article a few years back on vises 
that I think you could find on the internet.  The best thing to do if you want 
to make a change is to find a full service shop that has several of the vises 
that you are considering and ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down 
and try them out (at least mine did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group 
in your area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's 
the best way to decide, especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a much 
more expensive vise.

Mike


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough 
 wrote:

 

RE: [VFB] vises

[J McK]

 
My two cents, is Renzetti Traveler , I also have a sunrise and a Cabela's



Jerry McKaughan,President
Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P. O. Box 9104
Russellville, AR 72811
www.caddisflyfishers.org



 
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> 
> I love my Peak vise built solid, holds as small as i have tied down 
> to a 22, although you can buy a midge jaw for it
> just my 2 cents worth
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

Rene, 
Yes I do remember. We talked about a lot of things the two years you were here. 
I hope you can make it back again someday.
Tony

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Rene Zillmann  wrote:

From: Rene Zillmann 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 2:35 PM

Hi Tony,
I own the Thompson Cobra, and I like to use it. Was my first rotary
vise, and I took it with me to the 2nd Sowbug trip (or both?). Maybe you
remember, you told me that you don't like the design.
It has some advantages and disadvantages.
The additional tools only fit to this vise, and the bobbin hanger is
sort of pain.
But you can easily lay your left hand on the vise top, and still hold
material to the hook. Helps to ty in very small materials. It is heavy
and steady.
I own a Regal vise, which is great for larger flies and spinning,
because it has good holding power. But you must be careful not to chip
the jaws. But we discussed that.
My workhorse is a danvise, but unfortunately I have worn out the jaws,
tying too much saltwater. The jaws are somehow bend outside. You have
limited access to the back side of the fly. Maybe I buy later a new set
of jaws, saltwater jaws, and the extension.
I have 2 more vises, I use them for travel. indian, but ok.
Don't ask me why I bought the individual vices. All are gifts from my
wife, so she selected them. Always a surprise, when she enters a fly shop.
Rene

Anthony Spezio wrote:
> Now I remember seeing it, the name did not ring a bell.
> Scares me just looking at ti.
> Tony
>
> --- On *Thu, 2/11/10, George Vincent //* wrote:
>
>
>     From: George Vincent 
>     Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises
>     To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>     Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:49 AM
>
>     The Vosseler certainly looks like it used a design developed by
>     Thompson as the Cobra Vise.
>      
>      
>     George Vincent
>
>     
>     *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>     [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Westbeek
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 19:02
>     *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>     *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Vises
>
>     The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a vise is highly
>     personal. Some like it; I did not care for at all.
>     Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but a suction cup
>     instead, which just does not work on many surfaces, and results in
>     an extremely wobbly vise. Well, *that* really sucks ;-)
>     Mart
>      
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Niclas Runarsson]

Personally I think 'junior' in Barracuda Junior is a very misleading word.
It scared me off and I bought the Mongoose because of it. But when I had the
chance to see one IRL (Tony's)... I quickly saw that, between the two of
them, his sure wasn't the 'junior'. Then I bought a Barracuda Junior myself
but the slim arm didn't feel comfortable as hand rest when tying. So when I
exchanged it for the Standard Barracuda, I had both at home for a few
days... and could compare them. Personally, after having done that, I don't
think there is anything 'junior' about it... as a vise. The height is the
same as the "large" Barracuda and the width is the same as the "large"
Barracuda. Aside of the bases (L on the Junior and XL on the Standard), the
only difference between the vises lies in mass. It's thinner/lighter, but
not "smaller"... in my opinion.
 
The Barracuda Junior is the same vise as the Standard Barracuda... 6 months
before starting to visit the gym. ;o)
 
/Nick

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George,
I have been thinking about it but I hate to give up my Norlander. I still
use it when I decide to tie an order of Woolly Buggers. I know I can replace
it with a newer one but I have it set up like I want it. Maybe I might make
him an offer on it today. He has a couple of vises.
You mention the HMH. HMH stands for "Harry's Mad House", that was his
basement. I had one of the newer ones and let it go. My buddy has one of the
originals that was made in Harry's basement. It was a good one. The one I
had was made shortaly after Harry sold the rights. I thought it was a piece
of junk. The jaws would not hold a hook and the base was too light. I sold
it and bought one of the first "rotary" Regals. I tied on that for years, it
still is one of the better vises I have and still use it to wrap wire on
hooks when I decide to do bigger orders.It is fast for that. I was offered a
Pro Staff position with Dyna King and decided on the Barracuda Jr. I am
totally satisfied with that vise. I have cut my order tying down to just a
few clients. I don't tie for the shops anymore. Making Bamboo rods is taking
up my time.
Will let you know if he will sell the Beatis to me.
Tony

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, George Vincent  wrote:




From: George Vincent 
Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 11:21 AM


Tony, if you have the chance to get the Orvis Baetis vise, go for it, they
are rare as hens teeth.

I bought mine at an Orvis surplus sale and it had a broken jaw so I got it
for a great price. It was quite expensive when new from Orvis as most of
their merchandise is.

I had an extra set of Thompson jaws both regular and midge that a machinist
friend shorten for me and they work like a charm. Lucky that I had the
broken Orvis jaw to use as a pattern.

Unfortunately, he has since passed away.

As you can probably tell, I am a big fan of Thompson vises and was very
disappointed when they went out of business, although I think that there is
a group of old employees that are trying to resurrect the production of some
of the models.

The vise that I recommend to new tyers is the HMH either Standard or Spartan
models. They are made in Maine and the craftsmanship is superb and the
service is super.

George


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Of Anthony Spezio
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:47
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises


One of the guys in our tying group offered to trade his Orvis Baetis vise
for my Norlander.
We will be tying this afternoon and he will make the offer again. I would
like to add it to my collection but I want to keep my Norlander. We had an
Orvis Outlet store in Mtn. Home. I missed out on that vise, he was in the
outlet store that morning and I went in that afternoon. It went for 50.00
Tony


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RE: [VFB] Vises - my 4¢ worth

[William Murray]

I don't know Jack either and that is only half of it.
 
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:25:25 -0600
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> Actually I think ya'll don't know jack.
> Something any simple layman would understand.
> 
> Jack Lehman
> 
> Allan Fish wrote:
> > p.s.: MIke said: "Easy on that 'ignorance is bliss' comment. It is 
> > no longer politically correct."
> > Another one is "There's something fishy about that." I consider that 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Rene Zillmann]

Hi Tony,
I own the Thompson Cobra, and I like to use it. Was my first rotary
vise, and I took it with me to the 2nd Sowbug trip (or both?). Maybe you
remember, you told me that you don't like the design.
It has some advantages and disadvantages.
The additional tools only fit to this vise, and the bobbin hanger is
sort of pain.
But you can easily lay your left hand on the vise top, and still hold
material to the hook. Helps to ty in very small materials. It is heavy
and steady.
I own a Regal vise, which is great for larger flies and spinning,
because it has good holding power. But you must be careful not to chip
the jaws. But we discussed that.
My workhorse is a danvise, but unfortunately I have worn out the jaws,
tying too much saltwater. The jaws are somehow bend outside. You have
limited access to the back side of the fly. Maybe I buy later a new set
of jaws, saltwater jaws, and the extension.
I have 2 more vises, I use them for travel. indian, but ok.
Don't ask me why I bought the individual vices. All are gifts from my
wife, so she selected them. Always a surprise, when she enters a fly shop.
Rene

Anthony Spezio wrote:
> Now I remember seeing it, the name did not ring a bell.
> Scares me just looking at ti.
> Tony
>
> --- On *Thu, 2/11/10, George Vincent //* wrote:
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>
> From: George Vincent 
> Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:49 AM
>
> The Vosseler certainly looks like it used a design developed by
> Thompson as the Cobra Vise.
>  
>  
> George Vincent
>
> 
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Westbeek
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 19:02
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Vises
>
> The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a vise is highly
> personal. Some like it; I did not care for at all.
> Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but a suction cup
> instead, which just does not work on many surfaces, and results in
> an extremely wobbly vise. Well, *that* really sucks ;-)
> Mart
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RE: [VFB] Vises - my 4¢ worth

[J Balmer]

Well, I don't know Jack Lehman, but I know a couple of others...

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Actually I think ya'll don't know jack.
Something any simple layman would understand.

Jack Lehman

Allan Fish wrote:
> p.s.:  MIke said: "Easy on that 'ignorance is bliss' comment.  It is 
> no longer politically correct."
> Another one is "There's something fishy about that."  I consider that 
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RE: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

George,
I have been thinking about it but I hate to give up my Norlander. I still use 
it when I decide to tie an order of Woolly Buggers. I know I can replace it 
with a newer one but I have it set up like I want it. Maybe I might make him an 
offer on it today. He has a couple of vises.
You mention the HMH. HMH stands for "Harry's Mad House", that was his basement. 
I had one of the newer ones and let it go. My buddy has one of the originals 
that was made in Harry's basement. It was a good one. The one I had was made 
shortaly after Harry sold the rights. I thought it was a piece of junk. The 
jaws would not hold a hook and the base was too light. I sold it and bought one 
of the first "rotary" Regals. I tied on that for years, it still is one of the 
better vises I have and still use it to wrap wire on hooks when I decide to do 
bigger orders.It is fast for that. I was offered a Pro Staff position with Dyna 
King and decided on the Barracuda Jr. I am totally satisfied with that vise. I 
have cut my order tying down to just a few clients. I don't tie for the shops 
anymore. Making Bamboo rods is taking up my time.
Will let you know if he will sell the Beatis to me.
Tony

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, George Vincent  wrote:

From: George Vincent 
Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 11:21 AM

Tony, if you have the chance to get the Orvis Baetis vise, go for it, they
are rare as hens teeth.

I bought mine at an Orvis surplus sale and it had a broken jaw so I got it
for a great price. It was quite expensive when new from Orvis as most of
their merchandise is.

I had an extra set of Thompson jaws both regular and midge that a machinist
friend shorten for me and they work like a charm. Lucky that I had the
broken Orvis jaw to use as a pattern.

Unfortunately, he has since passed away.

As you can probably tell, I am a big fan of Thompson vises and was very
disappointed when they went out of business, although I think that there is
a group of old employees that are trying to resurrect the production of some
of the models.

The vise that I recommend to new tyers is the HMH either Standard or Spartan
models. They are made in Maine and the craftsmanship is superb and the
service is super.

George


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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:47
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One of the guys in our tying group offered to trade his Orvis Baetis vise
for my Norlander.
We will be tying this afternoon and he will make the offer again. I would
like to add it to my collection but I want to keep my Norlander. We had an
Orvis Outlet store in Mtn. Home. I missed out on that vise, he was in the
outlet store that morning and I went in that afternoon. It went for 50.00
Tony
 

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RE: [VFB] Vises

[George E Vincent]

Even though I am a big fan of Thompson vises, this model never appealed to
me. They had a nice line of accessories, however, they were designed only
for the Cobra and the investment was more than I cared to make.
 
George

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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:39
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Now I remember seeing it, the name did not ring a bell.
Scares me just looking at ti.
Tony

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From: George Vincent 
Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:49 AM


The Vosseler certainly looks like it used a design developed by Thompson as
the Cobra Vise.
 

 
George Vincent


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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 19:02
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The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a vise is highly personal.
Some like it; I did not care for at all. 
Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but a suction cup instead,
which just does not work on many surfaces, and results in an extremely
wobbly vise. Well, *that* really sucks ;-) 
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RE: [VFB] Vises

[George Vincent]

Tony, if you have the chance to get the Orvis Baetis vise, go for it, they
are rare as hens teeth.

I bought mine at an Orvis surplus sale and it had a broken jaw so I got it
for a great price. It was quite expensive when new from Orvis as most of
their merchandise is.

I had an extra set of Thompson jaws both regular and midge that a machinist
friend shorten for me and they work like a charm. Lucky that I had the
broken Orvis jaw to use as a pattern.

Unfortunately, he has since passed away.

As you can probably tell, I am a big fan of Thompson vises and was very
disappointed when they went out of business, although I think that there is
a group of old employees that are trying to resurrect the production of some
of the models.

The vise that I recommend to new tyers is the HMH either Standard or Spartan
models. They are made in Maine and the craftsmanship is superb and the
service is super.

George


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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:47
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises


One of the guys in our tying group offered to trade his Orvis Baetis vise
for my Norlander.
We will be tying this afternoon and he will make the offer again. I would
like to add it to my collection but I want to keep my Norlander. We had an
Orvis Outlet store in Mtn. Home. I missed out on that vise, he was in the
outlet store that morning and I went in that afternoon. It went for 50.00
Tony
 

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RE: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

Now I remember seeing it, the name did not ring a bell.
Scares me just looking at ti.
Tony

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, George Vincent  wrote:

From: George Vincent 
Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 8:49 AM



 
The Vosseler certainly looks like it used a design 
developed by Thompson as the Cobra Vise.
 

 
George Vincent



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Vises



The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a 
vise is highly personal. Some like it; I did not care for at all. 

Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but 
a suction cup instead, which just does not work on many surfaces, 
and results in an extremely wobbly vise. Well, *that* really 
sucks ;-) 
Mart
 
 
 

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Re: [VFB] Vises - my 4¢ worth

[Anthony Spezio]

My very first bought vise was a Thompson "B" with the big Red knob on the back, 
I bought that in the 40's. My first vise, was a homemade vise. I wish I still 
had it. I still have the "B". The Norlander bobbins are some of the best though 
the new ones and not as good as the ones Norm made. The new ones have to Pre 
Load  retract spring and you have to keep it that way in order not to loose 
about about 8" of thread each time you load it.Once you get the "hang" of it, 
it comes naturally. I am not talking about loading the spools with thread, that 
is really no big hassle.
Tony

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From: Allan Fish 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises - my 4¢ worth
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Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 9:44 AM


Re: [VFB] Vises - my 4¢
worthGeorge and Tony,


You guys have got me beat by a long shot!  I've only got
four vises.


I've got the Renzetti Traveler.  And, unlike Mart, I love
it.  Most of the new rotary vises have copied or modified the
Renzetti design.  Mart hates the Anvil Apex.  I used one for
an evening and liked it except it wasn't a true rotary.  That
just shows that there is SO much personal preference in picking a
vise.  (OR a vice, come to think of it. )   Nick likes
the Dyna-King.  I like the looks of them but have never used
one.  Of course, if I were a Dyna-King
Professional   ;-) ;-) ;-)


I've got an old Veniard vise that I picked up at an auction. 
It's good serviceable vise.  I find it a little clunky to use. 
I think it dates from the early 50's.  You can press a lever and
unlock it so it rotates, but it only holds its position at the normal
"upright" posItion.


I've got an old Thompson A (the one I learned to tie on). 
Another good serviceable vise.  I probably used it for 10
years.,


I've got a Regal.  It's a great solid vise for deer hair
bugs or any other vise where you need to put heavy pressure on the
tying thread.  I like it for really heavy hooks for its
stability.  The spring mechanism for opening the jaws puts it in
the realm of exercise machines. But it's not a true rotary.* 


*I sometimes think I'm one of the minority of tyers who actually
use the rotary feature the way it was designed - to hold the bobbin
and/or materials still while you rotate the hook.  And I know
that many of the folks on this list DO use their rotaries properly, so
y'all don't need to get your knickers in a wad.


If I didn't have so many hobbies to waste money on, I'd like get
a Nor-Vise and some of its cool attachments to play with.  AFTER
you learn to use it properly, the Nor-vise retractable bobbin is my
favorite. But I'd still probably do most of my tying with the Renzetti
vise.


In our club's fly tying classes, we see a lot of vises and
everyone seems to think their own vise is the best one available. 
And that's good.   That way you have a bunch of happy
folks.


Hook & Hackle has a very inexpensive "EZ-Rotary"
vise (made in Pakistan).  Several of us purchased some of them to
donate to our local Project Healing Waters program.  They're
fairly well made, although their holding power is not as good as the
more expensive precision-made vises.  They are a great
beginner's vise, but would be knocked way down in ratings when you
compare them to more expensive vises.  IF you have someone who
may be interested in starting to tie but doesn't know if they'd keep
it up, this is a nice little starter vise.


So many vises and so little money.come to think of
it, "vices" would fit in that sentence too.


a
p.s.:  MIke said: "Easy on that 'ignorance is bliss'
comment.  It is no longer politically correct."
Another one is "There's something fishy about that." 
I consider that one to also be no longer P.C.
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Re: [VFB] Vises - my 4¢ worth

[Jack Lehman]

Actually I think ya'll don't know jack.
Something any simple layman would understand.

Jack Lehman

Allan Fish wrote:
p.s.:  MIke said: "Easy on that 'ignorance is bliss' comment.  It is 
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Another one is "There's something fishy about that."  I consider that 
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Re: [VFB] Vises - my 4¢ worth

[Allan Fish]

George and Tony,

You guys have got me beat by a long shot!  I've only got four vises.

I've got the Renzetti Traveler.  And, unlike Mart, I love it.  Most 
of the new rotary vises have copied or modified the Renzetti design. 
Mart hates the Anvil Apex.  I used one for an evening and liked it 
except it wasn't a true rotary.  That just shows that there is SO 
much personal preference in picking a vise.  (OR a vice, come to 
think of it. )   Nick likes the Dyna-King.  I like the looks of them 
but have never used one.  Of course, if I were a Dyna-King 
Professional   ;-) ;-) ;-)


I've got an old Veniard vise that I picked up at an auction.  It's 
good serviceable vise.  I find it a little clunky to use.  I think it 
dates from the early 50's.  You can press a lever and unlock it so it 
rotates, but it only holds its position at the normal "upright" 
posItion.


I've got an old Thompson A (the one I learned to tie on).  Another 
good serviceable vise.  I probably used it for 10 years.,


I've got a Regal.  It's a great solid vise for deer hair bugs or any 
other vise where you need to put heavy pressure on the tying thread. 
I like it for really heavy hooks for its stability.  The spring 
mechanism for opening the jaws puts it in the realm of exercise 
machines. But it's not a true rotary.*


*I sometimes think I'm one of the minority of tyers who actually use 
the rotary feature the way it was designed - to hold the bobbin 
and/or materials still while you rotate the hook.  And I know that 
many of the folks on this list DO use their rotaries properly, so 
y'all don't need to get your knickers in a wad.


If I didn't have so many hobbies to waste money on, I'd like get a 
Nor-Vise and some of its cool attachments to play with.  AFTER you 
learn to use it properly, the Nor-vise retractable bobbin is my 
favorite. But I'd still probably do most of my tying with the 
Renzetti vise.


In our club's fly tying classes, we see a lot of vises and everyone 
seems to think their own vise is the best one available.  And that's 
good.   That way you have a bunch of happy folks.


Hook & Hackle has a very inexpensive "EZ-Rotary" vise (made in 
Pakistan).  Several of us purchased some of them to donate to our 
local Project Healing Waters program.  They're fairly well made, 
although their holding power is not as good as the more expensive 
precision-made vises.  They are a great beginner's vise, but would be 
knocked way down in ratings when you compare them to more expensive 
vises.  IF you have someone who may be interested in starting to tie 
but doesn't know if they'd keep it up, this is a nice little starter 
vise.


So many vises and so little money.come to think of it, 
"vices" would fit in that sentence too.


a
p.s.:  MIke said: "Easy on that 'ignorance is bliss' comment.  It is 
no longer politically correct."
Another one is "There's something fishy about that."  I consider that 
one to also be no longer P.C.

--
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Greenwood, IN
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RE: [VFB] Vises

[George Vincent]

The Vosseler certainly looks like it used a design developed by Thompson as
the Cobra Vise.
 

 
George Vincent


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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 19:02
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises


The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a vise is highly personal.
Some like it; I did not care for at all. 
Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but a suction cup instead,
which just does not work on many surfaces, and results in an extremely
wobbly vise. Well, *that* really sucks ;-) 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

I think so. LOL
Tony

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From: Martin Westbeek 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 5:47 PM



 
Yeah, you mentioned that to me back in 2002 at the 
Sowbug, Tony. 
And you are probably right, too!
:-)
Mart

  - Original Message - 
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  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:24 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  

  


  I say this with tongue in cheek. You guys from the 
Netherlands like the Law Vise because the Jaws are shaped like a Dutch 
Wooden shoe. I tied on Hans's Law vise some years ago, it 
is nice though it did not appeal to me. If I had the cash, I would add 
one to my collection.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Martin 
Westbeek  
wrote:


From: 
  Martin Westbeek 
Subject: Re: [VFB] 
  Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 
  10, 2010, 4:43 PM


  
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  Hi Bob,
   
  What Mike said - try before you buy. That's what 
  I did before I bought my new vise 10 years or so ago.
   
  But then, if you have a Danvise and like it, why 
  change?
  I think that the Danvise is an outstanding vise, 
  especially if you look at the price tag. IMO the Danvise is 
  better than many higher priced all-metal vises, and I tried a lot of 
  them. Did not like many of them, for a variety of reasons, and hated 
  some with a passion - the Renzetti Travel or Anvil Apex for 
  instance. The only ones I would prefer over a Danvise because 
  they are really very much better would be a Barracuda (Junior) or a 
  Peak, and my present one of course - the LAW bench 
  vise.
   
  This is a matter of personal preference 
  though.
  :-)
   
  Mart
  
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To: 
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Sent: 
Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: 
[VFB] Vises

I have a general question about vises.  Whats 
the differences between the lower priced (100 and below) and the 
higher priced models?  I am thinking of upgrading but dont know 
if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its the only one 
Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

Too big a job for me to do that. Most are packed away in boxes somewhere in the 
room downstairs. Don, I think you have seen that room.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 11:12 PM



 
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I would like everyone to take photos of all 
of your vises 
and post them here so I can see what you are 
talking about.
 
Thanks,
Buggs

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bob 
  Scarbrough 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:36 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises
  
You guys arent much help!  :)
 
Just kidding, I 
  have been looking at the Nor Vise or the 
  Mongoose.
 
Bob
 

  
  Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:30:07 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: 
  [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com


  


  Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 
vises, I collect them, and each have their own pros and cons. I have a 
Danvise and can find a number of things that don't suite me but others 
love them. I have a Regal that is a fast production vise but if your 
hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be hard on your hands. The 
Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like the Woolly Buggers. 
I 
can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King Barracuda 
Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is just 
the 
right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that are 
smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of 
taking the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. 
and complete tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along 
with 
the tools I will be using at the show.
Tony

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wrote:


From: 
  Michael Bliss 
Subject: Re: 
      [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM


  Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference 
  type of thing.  I started on a Thompson A vise, then to a 
  Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years ago I bought a 
  NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have 
  its particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, 
  don't change.  If it no longer suits your needs there are lot's 
  of vises and opinions.  I think Hans W. did a fine article a few 
  years back on vises that I think you could find on the internet.  
  The best thing to do if you want to make a change is to find a full 
  service shop that has several of the vises that you are considering 
  and ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try them 
  out (at least mine did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group 
  in your area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on 
  theirs.  It's the best way to decide, especially if you are 
  thinking of stepping up to a much more expensive 
  vise.

Mike


  On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob 
  Scarbrough  wrote:

  
I have a general question about vises.  Whats the 
differences between the lower priced (100 and below) and the higher 
priced models?  I am thinking of upgrading but dont know if I 
need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its the only one Ive 
owned so I dont know any different.
 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Don Ordes]

I would like everyone to take photos of all of your vises 
and post them here so I can see what you are talking about.

Thanks,
Buggs
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Scarbrough 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises


  You guys arent much help!  :)
   
  Just kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the Mongoose.
   
  Bob
   

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Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, 
and each have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number 
of things that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a 
fast production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be 
hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like the 
Woolly Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King 
Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is just 
the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that are 
smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of taking 
the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and complete 
tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the tools I will be 
using at the show.
Tony

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  From: Michael Bliss 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM


  Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I 
started on a Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A 
few years ago I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to 
have its particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't 
change.  If it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and 
opinions.  I think Hans W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I 
think you could find on the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make 
a change is to find a full service shop that has several of the vises that you 
are considering and ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try 
them out (at least mine did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in your 
area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's the 
best way to decide, especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a much 
more expensive vise.

  Mike


  On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough 
 wrote:

I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences 
between the lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am 
thinking of upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, 
course its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

Thanks Mart,
I will look it up just for the heck of it.
Any chance of you getting back to the Sowbug, it has grown quite a bit since 
you were here.
Tony

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From: Martin Westbeek 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 6:01 PM



 
The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a 
vise is highly personal. Some like it; I did not care for at all. 

Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but 
a suction cup instead, which just does not work on many surfaces, 
and results in an extremely wobbly vise. Well, *that* really 
sucks ;-) 
Mart
 
 

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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:16 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  

  


  That is one I have not heard of.
Tony

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wrote:


From: 
  Jeff Frye 
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 5:05 PM


  
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  Check out the Vosseler. There is no jaw like it. The base is such 
  that you will pick up the desk before the vise breaks free of the 
  desk.

  

  
  
  From: Bob Scarbrough 
  
To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
  
Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 
  3:36:51 PM
Subject: 
          RE: [VFB] Vises


  
  You guys arent much help!  :)
 
Just kidding, I have 
  been looking at the Nor Vise or the 
  Mongoose.
 
Bob
 

  
  Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:30:07 -0800
From: 
  bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com


  


  Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have 
about 20 vises, I collect them, and each have their own pros 
and 
cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of things that 
don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a 
fast production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the 
lever might be hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise 
for tying some flies like the Woolly Buggers. I can go on but I 
think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King Barracuda Jr. For 
me 
it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is just the 
right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises 
that 
are smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo 
instead of taking the Jr.along and having to break down my 
tying 
station. My Jr. and complete tying station fits in a attache 
case as one unit along with the tools I will be using at the 
show.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Michael Bliss 
 wrote:


From: Michael 
  Bliss 
Subject: Re: 
      [VFB] Vises
To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 
  2010, 2:41 PM


  Boy, Bob this is really a personal 
  preference type of thing.  I started on a Thompson A 
  vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A 
  few years ago I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few 
  others.  Each seems to have its particular strength and 
  weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't change.  If 
  it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and 
  opinions.  I think Hans W. did a fine article a few years 
  back on vises that I think you could find on the 
  internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make a 
  change is to find a full service shop that has several of the 
  vises that you are considering and ask to tie on them.  
  Many will let you sit down and try them out (at least mine 
  did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in your 
  area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on 
  theirs.  It's the best way to decide, especially if you 
  are thinking of stepping up to a much more expensive 
  vise.

Mike


  On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, 
  Bob Scarbrough  wrote:

  
I have a general question about vises.  Whats the 
differences between the lower priced (100 and below) and 
the 
higher priced models?  I am thinking of upgrading but 
do

RE: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

Bob,
One of the reasons I did not care for my Danvise is the lack of space behind 
the jaws.. With the extension, I might of liked it better. When I got mine, 
there was no extension, I reversed the part that held the jaws that put the 
jaws up away from the vise body but this let the jaws rotate in an circle 
instead of a true rotary.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Bob Scarbrough  wrote:

From: Bob Scarbrough 
Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises
To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 6:37 PM




Scott,

 

Is the extension arm necessary?  I dont have it on mine, but of course I have 
been tying that much on it til recently.

 

Bob
 


From: scott.bear...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:21:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Mart,


Mine is made of aluminum and was one of Al Beatty's prototypes. I had to wait 
several weeks for mine. I didn't complain about the vise before the extension 
arm came along, but I knew I just had to have one when I heard about it. It 
does add quite a bit of swing to the rotation, but I still like it.


Scott


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wrote:



That's in fact metal, Scott. I have the same one.
If you are looking for a metal extension arm Al Beatty should be able to help 
you out.
Mart

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Re: [VFB] Vises

[scott bearden]

My bad. I was blissfully unaware...

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Michael Bliss  wrote:

> Easy on that "ignorance is bliss" comment.  It is no longer politically
> correct.

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Re: [VFB] Vises

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Easy on that "ignorance is bliss" comment.  It is no longer politically
correct.




On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:14 PM, scott bearden wrote:

> Bob,
>
> No, it isn't necessary. I will say that ignorance is bliss, and if it were
> not invented I would still be happily using what came with the Danvise.
> Having said that, I think it is a very nice addition, particularly for flies
> that have a lot of material that extends behind the hook. It you mostly tie
> small trout flies and midges then you probably won't notice the difference.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Bob Scarbrough wrote:
>
>>  Scott,
>>
>> Is the extension arm necessary?  I dont have it on mine, but of course I
>> have been tying that much on it til recently.
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[scott bearden]

Bob,

No, it isn't necessary. I will say that ignorance is bliss, and if it were
not invented I would still be happily using what came with the Danvise.
Having said that, I think it is a very nice addition, particularly for flies
that have a lot of material that extends behind the hook. It you mostly tie
small trout flies and midges then you probably won't notice the difference.

Scott

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Bob Scarbrough wrote:

>  Scott,
>
> Is the extension arm necessary?  I dont have it on mine, but of course I
> have been tying that much on it til recently.
>
> Bob
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Michael Bliss]

Has anyone tied on the new C&F vise?  I was looking because of this thread
to see what might be new out there.  The new C&F vise is $800!

Mike

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Martin Westbeek
wrote:

>  The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a vise is highly
> personal. Some like it; I did not care for at all.
> Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but a suction cup instead,
> which just does not work on many surfaces, and results in an extremely
> wobbly vise. Well, *that* really sucks ;-)
> Mart
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Anthony Spezio 
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:16 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Vises
>
>   That is one I have not heard of.
> Tony
>
> --- On *Wed, 2/10/10, Jeff Frye * wrote:
>
>
> From: Jeff Frye 
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 5:05 PM
>
>  Check out the Vosseler. There is no jaw like it. The base is such that
> you will pick up the desk before the vise breaks free of the desk.
>
>  --
> *From:* Bob Scarbrough 
> *To:* "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
> *Sent:* Wed, February 10, 2010 3:36:51 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [VFB] Vises
>
> You guys arent much help!  :)
>
> Just kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the Mongoose.
>
> Bob
>
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> From: bambot...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
>   Bob,
> I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, and
> each have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of
> things that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a
> fast production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be
> hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like
> the Woolly Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna
> King Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it
> is just the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that
> are smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of
> taking the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and
> complete tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the
> tools I will be using at the show.
> Tony
>
> --- On *Wed, 2/10/10, Michael Bliss * wrote:
>
>
> From: Michael Bliss 
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM
>
> Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on
> a Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few
> years ago I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to
> have its particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't
> change.  If it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and
> opinions.  I think Hans W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that
> I think you could find on the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to
> make a change is to find a full service shop that has several of the vises
> that you are considering and ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down
> and try them out (at least mine did).  Lacking that if there is a tying
> group in your area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on
> theirs.  It's the best way to decide, especially if you are thinking of
> stepping up to a much more expensive vise.
>
> Mike
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough 
> http:///mc/compose?to=a69ju...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the
> lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of
> upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course
> its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
>
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RE: [VFB] Vises

[Bob Scarbrough]

Scott,

 

Is the extension arm necessary?  I dont have it on mine, but of course I have 
been tying that much on it til recently.

 

Bob
 


From: scott.bear...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:21:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Mart,


Mine is made of aluminum and was one of Al Beatty's prototypes. I had to wait 
several weeks for mine. I didn't complain about the vise before the extension 
arm came along, but I knew I just had to have one when I heard about it. It 
does add quite a bit of swing to the rotation, but I still like it.


Scott


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Westbeek  
wrote:



That's in fact metal, Scott. I have the same one.
If you are looking for a metal extension arm Al Beatty should be able to help 
you out.
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[scott bearden]

Mart,

Mine is made of aluminum and was one of Al Beatty's prototypes. I had to
wait several weeks for mine. I didn't complain about the vise before the
extension arm came along, but I knew I just had to have one when I heard
about it. It does add quite a bit of swing to the rotation, but I still like
it.

Scott

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Westbeek
wrote:

>  That's in fact metal, Scott. I have the same one.
> If you are looking for a metal extension arm Al Beatty should be able to
> help you out.
> Mart
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Martin Westbeek]

The Vosseler is a great example of the fact that a vise is highly personal. 
Some like it; I did not care for at all. 
Two pair of jaws... why? No weight in the base, but a suction cup instead, 
which just does not work on many surfaces, and results in an extremely wobbly 
vise. Well, *that* really sucks ;-) 
Mart


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  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises


That is one I have not heard of.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Jeff Frye  wrote:


  From: Jeff Frye 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 5:05 PM


  Check out the Vosseler. There is no jaw like it. The base is such 
that you will pick up the desk before the vise breaks free of the desk.




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  To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
  Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 3:36:51 PM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises

  You guys arent much help!  :)
   
  Just kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the Mongoose.
   
  Bob
   

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  From: bambot...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect 
them, and each have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a 
number of things that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that 
is a fast production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might 
be hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like 
the Woolly Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna 
King Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is 
just the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that are 
smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of taking 
the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and complete 
tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the tools I will be 
using at the show.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Michael Bliss  wrote:


  From: Michael Bliss 
      Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM


  Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  
I started on a Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  
A few years ago I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems 
to have its particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't 
change.  If it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and 
opinions.  I think Hans W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I 
think you could find on the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make 
a change is to find a full service shop that has several of the vises that you 
are considering and ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try 
them out (at least mine did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in your 
area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's the 
best way to decide, especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a much 
more expensive vise.

  Mike


  On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough 
 wrote:

I have a general question about vises.  Whats the 
differences between the lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced 
models?  I am thinking of upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a 
Danvise and like it, course its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any 
different.
 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Martin Westbeek]

Yeah, you mentioned that to me back in 2002 at the Sowbug, Tony. 
And you are probably right, too!
:-)
Mart
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  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises


I say this with tongue in cheek. You guys from the Netherlands like the 
Law Vise because the Jaws are shaped like a Dutch Wooden shoe. I tied on Hans's 
Law vise some years ago, it is nice though it did not appeal to me. If I had 
the cash, I would add one to my collection.
Tony

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  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 4:43 PM


  Hi Bob,

  What Mike said - try before you buy. That's what I did before I 
bought my new vise 10 years or so ago.

  But then, if you have a Danvise and like it, why change?
  I think that the Danvise is an outstanding vise, especially if you 
look at the price tag. IMO the Danvise is better than many higher priced 
all-metal vises, and I tried a lot of them. Did not like many of them, for a 
variety of reasons, and hated some with a passion - the Renzetti Travel or 
Anvil Apex for instance. The only ones I would prefer over a Danvise because 
they are really very much better would be a Barracuda (Junior) or a Peak, and 
my present one of course - the LAW bench vise.

  This is a matter of personal preference though.
  :-)

  Mart
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From: Bob Scarbrough 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: [VFB] Vises


I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences 
between the lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am 
thinking of upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, 
course its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Niclas Runarsson]

My extension arm is metal. The "funny little thing" comes as default here
too, such as the clamp. Extension arm and base (if you can call the one I
have for "base") are both accessories. There is a great advantage with that
funny little thing though. It adds virtually nothing to the weight outside
the axis of rotation, making no difference to the balance when rotating.
 
/Nick

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Nick, 

I bought the extension arm as soon as they were made available in the U.S.
In fact I think I got a prototype machined from aluminum where yours looks
like molded delrin. The extension made it a much improved vise in my
opinion. I can't find the link anymore, but I recently came across a
Canadian fly shop online that claimed the manufacturer of the Danvise was
retiring and not going to make them any more. I am not trying to start
rumors, but I wish I could find that web page again for proof. I know they
are quite popular in Europe. I have seen them come in just about every color
and all the accessories come by default. I have also seen all aluminum
versions, and all of them had the extension arm, not the funny little thing
we get by default here. All I see for sale in the States are the basic black
delrin with clamp and no extension arm.

Regards,

Scott Bearden


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Niclas Runarsson
 wrote:


The one thing I still like about the Danvise is the shape of it. With an
extension arm for the jaws, it's not far from a Barracuda. The kind of
profile I feel comfortable with on a rotation vise.
 
(Attaching picture I took for a friend... a little bit of dust on one of
them. LOL)
 
/Nick

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Ämne: Re: [VFB] Vises


Hi Bob,
 
What Mike said - try before you buy. That's what I did before I bought my
new vise 10 years or so ago.
 
But then, if you have a Danvise and like it, why change?
I think that the Danvise is an outstanding vise, especially if you look at
the price tag. IMO the Danvise is better than many higher priced all-metal
vises, and I tried a lot of them. Did not like many of them, for a variety
of reasons, and hated some with a passion - the Renzetti Travel or Anvil
Apex for instance. The only ones I would prefer over a Danvise because they
are really very much better would be a Barracuda (Junior) or a Peak, and my
present one of course - the LAW bench vise.
 
This is a matter of personal preference though.
:-)
 
Mart

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From: Bob Scarbrough <mailto:a69ju...@hotmail.com>  
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: [VFB] Vises

I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the
lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course
its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
Bob Scarbrough
a69ju...@hotmail.com


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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Martin Westbeek]

That's in fact metal, Scott. I have the same one.
If you are looking for a metal extension arm Al Beatty should be able to help 
you out.
Mart
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  From: scott bearden 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises


  Nick,


  I bought the extension arm as soon as they were made available in the U.S. In 
fact I think I got a prototype machined from aluminum where yours looks like 
molded delrin. The extension made it a much improved vise in my opinion. I 
can't find the link anymore, but I recently came across a Canadian fly shop 
online that claimed the manufacturer of the Danvise was retiring and not going 
to make them any more. I am not trying to start rumors, but I wish I could find 
that web page again for proof. I know they are quite popular in Europe. I have 
seen them come in just about every color and all the accessories come by 
default. I have also seen all aluminum versions, and all of them had the 
extension arm, not the funny little thing we get by default here. All I see for 
sale in the States are the basic black delrin with clamp and no extension arm.


  Regards,


  Scott Bearden


  On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Niclas Runarsson 
 wrote:

The one thing I still like about the Danvise is the shape of it. With an 
extension arm for the jaws, it's not far from a Barracuda. The kind of profile 
I feel comfortable with on a rotation vise.

(Attaching picture I took for a friend... a little bit of dust on one of 
them. LOL)

/Nick
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      Ämne: Re: [VFB] Vises


  Hi Bob,

  What Mike said - try before you buy. That's what I did before I bought my 
new vise 10 years or so ago.

  But then, if you have a Danvise and like it, why change?
  I think that the Danvise is an outstanding vise, especially if you look 
at the price tag. IMO the Danvise is better than many higher priced all-metal 
vises, and I tried a lot of them. Did not like many of them, for a variety of 
reasons, and hated some with a passion - the Renzetti Travel or Anvil Apex for 
instance. The only ones I would prefer over a Danvise because they are really 
very much better would be a Barracuda (Junior) or a Peak, and my present one of 
course - the LAW bench vise.

  This is a matter of personal preference though.
  :-)

  Mart
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Scarbrough 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: [VFB] Vises


I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between 
the lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking 
of upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course 
its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[scott bearden]

Nick,

I bought the extension arm as soon as they were made available in the U.S.
In fact I think I got a prototype machined from aluminum where yours looks
like molded delrin. The extension made it a much improved vise in my
opinion. I can't find the link anymore, but I recently came across a
Canadian fly shop online that claimed the manufacturer of the Danvise was
retiring and not going to make them any more. I am not trying to start
rumors, but I wish I could find that web page again for proof. I know they
are quite popular in Europe. I have seen them come in just about every color
and all the accessories come by default. I have also seen all aluminum
versions, and all of them had the extension arm, not the funny little thing
we get by default here. All I see for sale in the States are the basic black
delrin with clamp and no extension arm.

Regards,

Scott Bearden

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Niclas Runarsson <
niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com> wrote:

>  The one thing I still like about the Danvise is the shape of it. With an
> extension arm for the jaws, it's not far from a Barracuda. The kind of
> profile I feel comfortable with on a rotation vise.
>
> (Attaching picture I took for a friend... a little bit of dust on one of
> them. LOL)
>
> /Nick
>
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> *Martin Westbeek
> *Skickat:* den 10 februari 2010 23:43
>
> *Till:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Ämne:* Re: [VFB] Vises
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> What Mike said - try before you buy. That's what I did before I bought my
> new vise 10 years or so ago.
>
> But then, if you have a Danvise and like it, why change?
> I think that the Danvise is an outstanding vise, especially if you look at
> the price tag. IMO the Danvise is better than many higher priced all-metal
> vises, and I tried a lot of them. Did not like many of them, for a variety
> of reasons, and hated some with a passion - the Renzetti Travel or Anvil
> Apex for instance. The only ones I would prefer over a Danvise because they
> are really very much better would be a Barracuda (Junior) or a Peak, and my
> present one of course - the LAW bench vise.
>
> This is a matter of personal preference though.
> :-)
>
> Mart
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> lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of
> upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course
> its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

I say this with tongue in cheek. You guys from the Netherlands like the Law 
Vise because the Jaws are shaped like a Dutch Wooden shoe. I tied on Hans's Law 
vise some years ago, it is nice though it did not appeal to me. If I had the 
cash, I would add one to my collection.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
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Hi Bob,
 
What Mike said - try before you buy. That's what I did 
before I bought my new vise 10 years or so ago.
 
But then, if you have a Danvise and like it, why 
change?
I think that the Danvise is an outstanding vise, 
especially if you look at the price tag. IMO the Danvise is better than 
many higher priced all-metal vises, and I tried a lot of them. Did not like 
many 
of them, for a variety of reasons, and hated some with a passion - the 
Renzetti Travel or Anvil Apex for instance. The only ones I would prefer 
over a Danvise because they are really very much better would be a Barracuda 
(Junior) or a Peak, and my present one of course - the LAW bench 
vise.
 
This is a matter of personal preference 
though.
:-)
 
Mart

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  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:30 
  PM
  Subject: [VFB] Vises
  
I have a general question about vises.  Whats the 
  differences between the lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced 
  models?  I am thinking of upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a 
  Danvise and like it, course its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any 
  different.
 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

That is one I have not heard of.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 5:05 PM

Check out the Vosseler. There is no jaw like it. The base is such that you will 
pick up the desk before the vise breaks free of the desk.

From: Bob Scarbrough 
To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 3:36:51 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises






You guys arent much help!  :)

 

Just kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the Mongoose.

 

Bob
 


Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:30:07 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, and each 
have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of things 
that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a fast 
production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be hard on 
your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like the Woolly 
Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King 
Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is just 
the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that are 
smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of taking 
the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and complete 
tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the tools I will be 
using at the show.
Tony

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From: Michael Bliss 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM


Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on a 
Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years ago 
I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have its 
particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't change.  If it 
no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and opinions.  I think Hans 
W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I think you could find on 
the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make a change is to find a 
full service shop that has several of the vises that you are considering and 
ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try them out (at least mine 
did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in your area find out when they 
meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's the best way to decide, 
especially if you are thinking
 of stepping up to a much more expensive vise.

Mike


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough  wrote:


I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the lower 
priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of 
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its 
the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
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Check out the Vosseler. There is no jaw like it. The base is such that you will 
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Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 3:36:51 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises

 You guys arent much help!  :)
 
Just kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the Mongoose.
 
Bob
 

 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:30:07 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
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Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, and each 
have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of things 
that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a fast 
production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be hard on 
your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like the Woolly 
Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King 
Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is just 
the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that are 
smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of taking 
the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and complete 
tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the tools I will be 
using at the show.
Tony

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>From: Michael Bliss 
>Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
>To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM
>
>
>Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on a 
>Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years 
>ago I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have its 
>particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't change.  If 
>it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and opinions.  I think 
>Hans W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I think you could 
>find on the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make a change is to 
>find a full service shop that has several of the vises that you are 
>considering and ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try them 
>out (at least mine did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in your area 
>find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's the best 
>way to decide, especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a much more 
>expensive vise.
>
>Mike
>
>
>On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough  wrote:
>
>I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the 
>lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of 
>upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its 
>the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Martin Westbeek]

Hi Bob,

What Mike said - try before you buy. That's what I did before I bought my new 
vise 10 years or so ago.

But then, if you have a Danvise and like it, why change?
I think that the Danvise is an outstanding vise, especially if you look at the 
price tag. IMO the Danvise is better than many higher priced all-metal vises, 
and I tried a lot of them. Did not like many of them, for a variety of reasons, 
and hated some with a passion - the Renzetti Travel or Anvil Apex for instance. 
The only ones I would prefer over a Danvise because they are really very much 
better would be a Barracuda (Junior) or a Peak, and my present one of course - 
the LAW bench vise.

This is a matter of personal preference though.
:-)

Mart
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  Subject: [VFB] Vises


  I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the 
lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of 
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its 
the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
   
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

Quality and Service for the most part. As I mentioned, I have a number of 
vises. If I chip the jaws on my 80.00 vise, I might as well chuck it. The 
company is no longer in business. I have another lower priced vise that had 
worn out jaws. If I want to replace them, O have to buy the new upgraded ones 
as the old ones are not available. I have broken the jaws on my JR. they not 
only replaced the jaws but upgraded the jaws and the vise itself and shipped it 
back to me overnight mail as I was doing a show in N.Y.I wanted to use that 
vise at the show. All this at no cost to me. I chipped the jaws on my Regal and 
they replaced them at no cost..

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Subject: [VFB] Vises
To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:30 PM




I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the lower 
priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of 
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its 
the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.

 

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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Niclas Runarsson]

Ooops. I sat writing on mine while you posted this...
 
Please note that what I wrote about the Mongoose is nothing more than
'example of difference in opinions'. (If I had taken a break to read yours,
I wouldn't have mentioned it by name.) So don't let that scare you off. As I
said, I know many who love theirs. 
 
/Nick
 

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You guys arent much help!  :)
 
Just kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the Mongoose.
 
Bob
 

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From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com


Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, and
each have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of
things that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a
fast production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be
hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like
the Woolly Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna
King Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it
is just the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that
are smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of
taking the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and
complete tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the
tools I will be using at the show.
Tony

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From: Michael Bliss 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM


Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on a
Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years
ago I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have
its particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't change.
If it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and opinions.  I
think Hans W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I think you
could find on the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make a
change is to find a full service shop that has several of the vises that you
are considering and ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try
them out (at least mine did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in
your area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's
the best way to decide, especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a
much more expensive vise.

Mike


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I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the
lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course
its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
Bob Scarbrough
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Niclas Runarsson]

A 'good vise' is a vise that the individual likes and feels comfortable
with. I wouldn't consider a $700 vise a 'good vise' if I didn't like it...
maybe still a 'good quality vise', but not a 'good vise'.
 
If...
*... the individual is forgiving and doesn't care much about hooks slipping
now and then... 
*... the individual is forgiving and doesn't care much about parts
wobbling... 
*... the individual isn't a mass producing tyer needing high quality steel
in the jaws to make it last longer than a week...
... even the cheapest vise can be a very 'good vise'.
 
'Good quality' vises should hold hooks well, not have wobbling parts, be
able to last for a long time etc etc. There are many many vises qualifying
as 'good quality' vises. But from a list of quality vises, there's noone who
can tell you which one you will feel comfortable with.
 
I have a Griffin Montana Mongoose in one of my drawers, which by many is
considered a pretty good quality vise. I can just see it as a piece of
junk... a collection of design flaws... and an ergonomical nightmare. I have
discussed this vise a lot with Chris Helm, who shares my opinion to 100%.
(Quote) "The Montana Moosegoose should be melted down and sold for scraps."
(unquote) He doesn't even sell it. Still, I know several who love their
ones. I know several who love their Danvises too. I don't care much for my
own, but I HAVE liked it very much once. Today I use a couple of Dyna-Kings
which I feel more comfortable with... while the guy I meet every week at our
tying night is tying at the same vise model he has used for the last 20
years... the one he made in his own garage. He is on his THIRD one now,
which starts to show signs of wanting to get a rest. Which will be his next
one? Will it be a Dyna-King... Renzetti perhaps... or maybe even a LAW?
Hardly... LOL
 
Hans Weilenmann said it best: "One man's dream is another man's nightmare."
 
/Nick
 

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Dont know if the previous message went through.
 
I have a question about vises, whats a good one and whats not?  Why should I
pay $700 for a vise when a $80 will work?  I have a Danvise and am happy
with it, but its the only one I own so I dont know the difference.
 
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RE: [VFB] Vises

[J Balmer]

The Wacky Italian Broad bought me a traveling NorVise a year or so ago. Had
some issues w/ it, all but one resolved. I love tying w/ it, makes some
things easier & faster, although I don't tie commercially. One of the
handiest things is the second post for keeping the thread & bobbin out of
the way. I used an old oak cabinet door from my recent kitchen remodel to
make a larger portable desk that I can move from one room to the other as
needed.

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bob Scarbrough
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:37 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Vises

 

You guys arent much help!  :)
 
Just kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the Mongoose.
 
Bob
 

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:30:07 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com


Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, and
each have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of
things that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a
fast production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be
hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like
the Woolly Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna
King Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it
is just the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that
are smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of
taking the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and
complete tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the
tools I will be using at the show.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Michael Bliss  wrote:


From: Michael Bliss 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM

Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on a
Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years
ago I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have
its particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't change.
If it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and opinions.  I
think Hans W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I think you
could find on the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make a
change is to find a full service shop that has several of the vises that you
are considering and ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try
them out (at least mine did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in
your area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's
the best way to decide, especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a
much more expensive vise.

Mike

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough http://mc/compose?to=a69ju...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the
lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course
its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
Bob Scarbrough
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RE: [VFB] Vises

[Bob Scarbrough]

You guys arent much help!  :)

 

Just kidding, I have been looking at the Nor Vise or the Mongoose.

 

Bob
 


Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:30:07 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, and each 
have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of things 
that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a fast 
production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be hard on 
your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like the Woolly 
Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King 
Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is just 
the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that are 
smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of taking 
the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and complete 
tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the tools I will be 
using at the show.
Tony

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, Michael Bliss  wrote:


From: Michael Bliss 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM


Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on a 
Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years ago 
I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have its 
particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't change.  If it 
no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and opinions.  I think Hans 
W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I think you could find on 
the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make a change is to find a 
full service shop that has several of the vises that you are considering and 
ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try them out (at least mine 
did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in your area find out when they 
meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's the best way to decide, 
especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a much more expensive vise.

Mike


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough  wrote:


I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the lower 
priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of 
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its 
the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
Bob Scarbrough
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Anthony Spezio]

Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, and each 
have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of things 
that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a fast 
production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be hard on 
your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like the Woolly 
Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King 
Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is just 
the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that are 
smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of taking 
the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and complete 
tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the tools I will be 
using at the show.
Tony

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From: Michael Bliss 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM

Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on a 
Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years ago 
I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have its 
particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't change.  If it 
no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and opinions.  I think Hans 
W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I think you could find on 
the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make a change is to find a 
full service shop that has several of the vises that you are considering and 
ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try them out (at least mine 
did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in your area find out when they 
meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's the best way to decide, 
especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a much more expensive vise.


Mike

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I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the lower 
priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of 
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its 
the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.


 

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RE: [VFB] Vises

[Bob Scarbrough]

Mike,

 

I figured it would get people going.  

 

Problem I have is not a lot of places around here have the actual vices to try, 
they tell me they can order one, but I dont want to do that without trying it 
this time.

 

Bob
 


Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:41:04 -1000
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
From: flyfish...@gmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on a 
Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years ago 
I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have its 
particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't change.  If it 
no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and opinions.  I think Hans 
W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I think you could find on 
the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make a change is to find a 
full service shop that has several of the vises that you are considering and 
ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try them out (at least mine 
did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in your area find out when they 
meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's the best way to decide, 
especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a much more expensive vise.

Mike


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough  wrote:


I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the lower 
priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of 
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its 
the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
 
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Re: [VFB] Vises

[Michael Bliss]

Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on a
Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years
ago I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have
its particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't
change.  If it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and
opinions.  I think Hans W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that
I think you could find on the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to
make a change is to find a full service shop that has several of the vises
that you are considering and ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down
and try them out (at least mine did).  Lacking that if there is a tying
group in your area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on
theirs.  It's the best way to decide, especially if you are thinking of
stepping up to a much more expensive vise.

Mike

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough wrote:

>  I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the
> lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of
> upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course
> its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.
>
> Bob Scarbrough
> a69ju...@hotmail.com
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