[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-27 Thread mcmpress
As a big news story, that video will be viewed by countless people. Advertisers are wise to attach to it. - Mary --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hear what you're saying, but bills have to be paid. I don't know anything about boingboing, so I

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-27 Thread Heath
It's not about them having ads, it was just the type of ad...for me it broke the flow, it seemed intrusivebut I understand that ads are what makes the world go round. Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, mcmpress [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Heath
I am glad jay and ryanne are back safe, I am glad that boing boing and others are trying to report thingsbutand for me it's a big butthe ads on the video piece from boing boing turned me offI mean, here are jay and ryanne talking about people being detained and how that they

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Rupert
I thought it was funny - just made me laugh at the advertiser - but yeah, i'm pretty amazed at the stupidity of advertisers, still making one-size-fits-all adverts, even little 5 second pre-roll ones. simplistic ideas of brand identity etc mean they can't get their heads around supplying

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Bill Cammack
I hear what you're saying, but bills have to be paid. I don't know anything about boingboing, so I can't speak for them specifically, but that's the game that's being played here. Get people to click on your video, get people to click on your ads, get revenue to pay people's salaries. There's

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Heath
Oh indeed I do know that is the nature of the biz but I can't help but think, maybe an ad for not smoking or maybe a company that is doing green or social things, etc...maybe that would have been a better fit than the ad that was on there...again I know the realility but for me this was the

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Bill Cammack
hmm... I had assumed that Heath was talking about overlay ads DURING the program. I don't have a problem with pre-roll and post-roll ads of whatever type. They just have to be integrated properly with the subject matter. I say if pre-roll's going to be peppy and bouncy, get it out of the way in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Rupert
thinking about it, the main reason it was so obnoxious was because it came after the intro soundbite from jay and after the boingboing tv ident, so it wasn't just pre-roll, it was inserted after you've already thought the episode was beginning. it wouldn't have been *as* bad (though still

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Bill Cammack
Well, like I said, I agree with you entirely. I was shocked enough just reading the twitter or link here or whatever that informed me that they had been over there AT ALL. I thought they were in the sticks somewhere making bread and not using plastic. When I read the link, I was like THEY could

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Rupert
I don't think they have to have different advertisers for different moods. Their advertiser just needs to provide maybe two or three different styles of their advert. And they don't even need to be that different. For instance, if the Crowdfire advert here had just been without that

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Heath
It's funny I didn't even notice the ad's DURING the interview just the one's before and afterI was too distracked by the blonde to notice the overlays.. ;) Another thing that is funny for me, is that I have always been in the ad's arn't so bad campI know it's still the model and for

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's funny I didn't even notice the ad's DURING the interview just the one's before and afterI was too distracked by the blonde to notice the overlays.. ;) That was my fault for ASSUMING you meant mid-roll overlay

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Rupert
I don't accept those excuses on their behalf. My point is not about art, or they way the advert affects the way the viewer engages with the interview. I wouldn't expect them to give a damn about the effect on the aesthetics of the video their ad is inserted into. My point is about them not

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-26 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't accept those excuses on their behalf. My point is not about art, or they way the advert affects the way the viewer engages with the interview. I wouldn't expect them to give a damn about the effect on the

[videoblogging] Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

2008-08-25 Thread Bill Cammack
Thanks for the link. So interesting. I'm glad they were able to avoid detention. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tv.boingboing.net/2008/08/25/boing-boing-tv-proti.html Last week, eight American citizens were detained in Beijing for