[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-04 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for stating that Enric. I don't think much of anything is inherently evil. Life is about context, and in that sense, anything is possible. It is in the specifics that we find ourselves making choices. I

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-04 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for stating that Enric. I don't think much of anything is inherently evil. Life is about context, and in that sense, anything is possible. It is in the specifics that we find ourselves making choices. I

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-04 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great thoughts. I'll give you a developer's perspective about ads being dynamically inserted inline with audio and video files. And this goes to the heart of the whole New Media movement, which is about empowering

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-04 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry I have to disagree with you Ads placed around the video I think is more distracting than a preroll or post rollwhy would I watch a video 16X9 and in the black bar areas there is a bunch of ads placed there? I

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-04 Thread mrbellavia
Yikes - it's almost the rise of the red scare in here. We've mainly been using web video FOR advertising purposes - I guess we're evil because of it in the eyes of some here. We say we produce original content but it's usually sponsored by someone, either directly to support a product in a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-03 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Advertising is flawed by definition, corrupt in its basic premise, a premise that in a pinch, excludes truth. One cannot accept money toward one's survival and in the pinch - when it really matters - tell the sad truth about the advertiser. It's all fine and dandy until the advertiser screws up.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-03 Thread Roxanne Darling
You summarized it beautifully Jan. Simple, if not easy. And easier for some than others. Beach Walks - as a show - was founded on the principle of don't get invested in the results of what you do. It takes guts on some days, on other days it is utterly liberating. Your words are going on my

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-03 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Advertising is flawed by definition, corrupt in its basic premise, a premise that in a pinch, excludes truth. One cannot accept money toward one's survival and in the pinch - when it really matters - tell the sad

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-03 Thread Enric
From my response on the blog comments: Since some on here and the videoblogging group have the view that advertising is evil. I want to state I don't share that philosophy. Advertising is essential in informing on the talent and capability one wants to exchange with someone else's products of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-03 Thread Roxanne Darling
Thanks for stating that Enric. I don't think much of anything is inherently evil. Life is about context, and in that sense, anything is possible. It is in the specifics that we find ourselves making choices. I see so much opportunity for formerly disparate groups of people to reinvent business

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-02 Thread [chrisbrogan.com]
That's funny, I was going to rush over here and say, Hey everyone! You're missing a great post that Enric wrote on his blog! : ) http://lucidmedia.cirne.com/index.php/2007/03/02/the-case-against-advertising-in-net-video/

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-02 Thread Enric
The point is not which Ads are placed in videos, but that videos are interrupted with Ads. I think some companies (new and old) developing new media tools are missing (sometimes intentionaly) the point of why people love pop-up blockers and ad blockers. Why a clean minimal google search with

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-02 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello, I understand what you are saying now. On 3/2/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is not which Ads are placed in videos, but that videos are interrupted with Ads. I think some companies (new and old) developing new media tools are missing (sometimes intentionaly) the point

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-02 Thread Heath
Sorry I have to disagree with you Ads placed around the video I think is more distracting than a preroll or post rollwhy would I watch a video 16X9 and in the black bar areas there is a bunch of ads placed there? I know I woundn't. Or course I don't think advertising is evil like a lot

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-02 Thread Zulma Aguiar
I hate Pre-Roll ads but if I know its a video about anna nicole or britney spears, damn it, I¹ll wait for the goodstuff. If your content tease is bad, then pre-roll ads aren¹t going to work. Zulma On 3/2/07 3:06 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry I have to disagree with you

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-02 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry I have to disagree with you Ads placed around the video I think is more distracting than a preroll or post rollwhy would I watch a video 16X9 and in the black bar areas there is a bunch of ads placed there? I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-02 Thread joshpaul
Advertising is going to happen. I think we can all accept that fact. How it's going to happen is the next phase of this adventure we're on. I agree that ads need to be somehow attached to the video. Whether that's through pre/mid/post roll, product placement, or some other way we have yet to

[videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-02 Thread caroosky
Great thoughts. I'll give you a developer's perspective about ads being dynamically inserted inline with audio and video files. And this goes to the heart of the whole New Media movement, which is about empowering people to connect around content, and making that content as accessible and usable

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Case Against Advertising in Net Video

2007-03-02 Thread sull
Generally, I have to agree with Bill here. On the web, there are many ways to use ads with video. I think it remains to be seen which will be the most well received approach, again generally speaking. Enric is likely correct in pointing out that mid-roll ads will not prove to be popular when