Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-06 Thread Deirdre Straughan
FWIW, my video FINALLY finished processing and now shows up at http://profile.myspace.com/dstraughan ...but I can't find a way to embed it in my test page. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-06 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, my video FINALLY finished processing and now shows up at http://profile.myspace.com/dstraughan ...but I can't find a way to embed it in my test page. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-06 Thread Brett Gaylor
Myspace won't go away tomorrow, but the site is still aprimarily a social means of keeping in touch and identity...as the main users of this site (16-24)grow out of this stage I can't see themsticking with it. All my group of friends are on it - we're about 26-32 - about 20 of us. Most of us

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-03 Thread Deirdre Straughan
On 3/3/06, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a few tries, sometimes the server timed out with I'd say about 3 different styles/errortypes. Weird indeed. I'll be going through all the formats since the MySpace Video stuff isimportant to some things I'm doing on MySpace and elsewhere. Let us

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-03 Thread Michael Sullivan
maybe i'll create a myspace profile and its purpose is strictly to be a teasera lead-in to where I transmit. With either a single video, a single audio, a single picture or flash animation 1 media element, cryptic, luring suck them in to see what I am up to. Riptide that myspace

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-03 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Peter Van Dijck wrote: is young but.and this is a big but.what if they continue to use it after High School and College? I think that's as unlikely as your daughter who is into goth still wearing those clothes in 10 years. I dunno, I still wear the same funny clothes I did almost 20

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-03 Thread hpbatman7
Which was kinda my point from my orginal post that was somewhat taken out of contextit is young now but will it still be in 5 years...I keep saying this but it seems to get drowned out.I mean bands, comedians, and now filmmakers are putting there stuff out in myspace to build

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-03 Thread David Dundas
I actually have been sitting this convo out... but because there have been so many emails with myspace in the subject dropped in my inbox over the past few days, I thought i'd contribute... I can't think of one example that has had this type of integrated environment and lasted... geocities,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread duncan
Yes, i have the same issue, tried it with myspace film and vids.myspace? has anyone had any luck with this, would really like to explore it but there is no technical information? is this a mac thing? i know that none of my browsers accept myspace advanced post editing facilities? dOn 3/2/06,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Deirdre Straughan
I use Firefox on Windows, so I don't think it's a Mac thing. On 3/2/06, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, i have the same issue, tried it with myspace film and vids.myspace? has anyone had any luck with this, would really like to explore it but there is no technical information? is this a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
this doesnt sound very productive. you can spend your time working on SEO instead ;-)good luck though. i'll still be interested in your results.robert, maybe it will have some benefit if you are hungry for any attention you can get. their are and will be more ways that supercede the myspace

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Deirdre Straughan
On 3/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this doesnt sound very productive. you can spend your time working on SEO instead ;-)good luck though. i'll still be interested in your results.robert, maybe it will have some benefit if you are hungry for any attention you can get. their

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Steve Garfield
I just jumped in! The water is fine. I uploaded a short video and now it is processing. Based on viewing the other videos on the site, I'd say that means the host is encoding my video into Flash. On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:29 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: The upload widget is the same. At the end

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Based on viewing the other videos on the site, I'd say that means the host is encoding my video into Flash. And based on that same viewing experience, their encoding looks really terrible. -josh On 3/2/06, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just jumped in! The water is fine. I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Steve Garfield
Really? This Britney Spears music video from MTV presented by britneyspearsnow.com looks pretty good to me, not great, but good: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=537376237n=2 http://tinyurl.com/emnky On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
That's also true of Ourmedia, BTW - I have yet to successfully upload a video there, either. Indeed. New efforts have begun (for what its worth ;-)On 3/2/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this doesnt sound very productive.

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Eric Rice
It's slow. Some videos took 12 minutes, others took hours to transcode Thank GOODNESS our transcoders are fast! ;-) ER ericrice.com | audioblog.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on viewing the other videos on the site, I'd say that means

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Enric
Yes, I've had the same problem. I sent webmail to customer service on this two days ago, and haven't received a response yet. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a new MySpace Films account and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread duncan
please please eric.. tell us what format you uploaded in? my 1 min video had been 'processing' for about 2 days now on the filmmakers site, and another 1min film has been processing for about 7 hrs, i'm guessing there is a problem.. i uploaded as quicktime with Mpeg 4 video and mpeg4 audio? be

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Enric
Naw, I'm on a PC and have the same problem. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, i have the same issue, tried it with myspace film and vids.myspace? has anyone had any luck with this, would really like to explore it but there is no technical

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Then again, who knows how much video they're trying to process. If they're literally getting millions of video uploads per day, then i'd imagine their encoding queue is pretty backed up. Not to mention they may have to screen uploads to make sure the content isn't infringing. That takes a lot of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread robert a/k/a r
and mp3 doesn't sound anywhere near as good a vinyl on a linn. but guess what. On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Based on viewing the other videos on the site, I'd say that means the host is encoding my video into Flash. And based on that same viewing experience, their

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread robert a/k/a r
LOL, Sull. As I'm sure you realise, the question is an intellectual one. Think as an economists for a minute, there may be behaviour to be understood over at myspace. The question is, again, can vids.myspace.com benefit a videoblogger / videoblogging. On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Michael

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Just stating a fact. Their image quality looks bad. Depends what you want. For a lot of things that may not matter... for me as a viewer I'm not really all that hung up on quality -- I'm always more interested in immediacy (content almost always trumps image quality for me). Especially if you're

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread robert a/k/a r
Josh, yer talking' apples and tangerines there. Rocketboom is not what the majority of peeps are creating, from both creative and business perspectives. Your reply brings up the videoblogging definition matter - again. And the flash matter - again. We all get Rocketboom is different from

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
The question in this thread is, again, can vids.myspace.com benefit vloggers / vlogging. What do you think? How do you see it as benefiting vloggers/vlogging? Perhaps its good promotion for your content? I'm not really sure. Is it part of the shared ecosystem of the blogosphere? Doesn't really

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Also, its strange that you took out most of the relevant lines of my previous message in your response. Maybe you should backtrack and read it again... the parts specifically about creative control. -josh On 3/2/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question in this thread is,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread robert a/k/a r
creative control. how so? On Mar 2, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Also, its strange that you took out most of the relevant lines of my previous message in your response. Maybe you should backtrack and read it again... the parts specifically about creative control. -josh

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread robert a/k/a r
Let's see if we can begin to figure it out. I thinks there are several questions. 1) What do videobloggers want most? 2) What does videoblogging need most? The first question is probably more complex in that personal preferences intersect with and sometimes dominate the group interest. Back

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I think you could flip this question pretty easily and say: Does MySpace offer any benefit to bloggers? The answer may be a mixed bag... I'm not sure how much benefit MySpace has to bloggers. But then again, there are a lot of people on MySpace who probably don't care about such things. -josh

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread robert a/k/a r
Yes, this is not an easy question Josh ;-) The focus on benefits to vloggers / vlogging is deliberate, here, let's maintain focus and see if there is something to be gained. Nailing down a specific or two would be ideal. These video hosting services becoming communities (i.e., youtube) and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
i talked a bit about myspace in a previous thread herei used a metaphor that myspace was like NYC and the blogosphere was like the rest of NY. if you dont venture into the city, you wont have as many connections to the connected to the culture, to the noise and chaos. If you hang out

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
sure, if a vlogger wants the audience of many opposed to few then they should actively list in all directories, setup profiles all over, regularly ping blog trackers and so on and so on. On 3/2/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is not an easy question Josh ;-)The focus

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread WWWhatsup
I went on and tried it weeks ago, with a iPod style h.264/aac mp4. It sat processing for about a week, and then said processing failed. please try again.' An exhaustive search for help/technical info was fruitless. I gave up. But perhaps regular mp4 works. joly The upload widget is the

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread hpbatman7
I think by the very nature of how big myspace is would help vlogging I mean I think vlogging is about expressing yourself, and who is to say what is right or wrong about your expression (within reason of course)some of my vlogs are just about my everyday life and some are creative

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Paul Knight
Just for the record, I have tried myspace and I find it all very cringeworthy.  There i no way to add video to your blogs there, its just text and pics and as for the film thing, you have to log in right so I do, then it takes me to my home page and hey where is the films.I think I prefer

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread hpbatman7
I like your metaphor here and I do think it has merit, vlogging is still pretty new as well and who knows where it will lead but as others have said if you are looking at increasing your audience Myspace can not be ignored. However, I do think that the age group is young but.and this is a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Peter Van Dijck
is young but.and this is a big but.what if they continue to use it after High School and College? I think that's as unlikely as your daughter who is into goth still wearing those clothes in 10 years. Myspace is about unsupervised hanging out, friends and identity. That's why teens like

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
is young but.and this is a big but.what if they continue to use it after High School and College? I think that's as unlikely as your daughter who is into goth still wearing those clothes in 10 years. Now Facebook on the other hand I can really see that having longevity because

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread hpbatman7
I agree to some degree, I think it depends on if Myspace evloves or not, in it's current form you will outgrow it...but if grows and becomes a true social networking site then who knows..personaly I doubt it will evlove but.. I can't speak to Facebook but personaly I would like to

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Eric Rice
The format was an export from Quicktime Pro from a regular .mov to MPEG-4... now to be fair, there was no audio track, but I'd think it might take mpeg4 since AAC seemed to fail. There are two other videos that I posted at the same time (like nearly 36 hours ago) that are stuck on

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-02 Thread Eric Rice
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding the second question, the group interest, it would be cool to hear from one of the vlogfathers. Does vids.myspace.com offer any benefit to vlogging / vloggers? I'm not a vlogfather but I'll wax the

[videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-01 Thread Conrad Slater
I've yet to find the winning forumla but I can tell you this. I'm not using the film section but rather the main normal section. Whilst there a couple of pictures on my page there isn't any sort of trailer or embeded player. I'm still waiting for the option to trasfer my account rather htan

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-01 Thread Ted Tagami
6/1000 ...that's about the avg click thru rate on a 468x60 banner...!On 3/1/06, Conrad Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've yet to find the winning forumla but I can tell you this. I'm not using the film section but rather the main normal section. Whilst there a couple of pictures on my

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-01 Thread robert a/k/a r
perhaps something like this would help ;-o http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=5672272382 seriously, can vloggers benefit from posting on http://vids.myspace.com there is a huge audience there, yes? On Mar 1, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Conrad Slater wrote: I've yet to find the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-01 Thread Deirdre Straughan
I created a new MySpace Films account and have been trying for days to upload a video. So far, on the nth attempt, the latest attempt is still processing.On 3/2/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps something like this would

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-01 Thread robert a/k/a r
heh. i wonder if the upload to the vids section is different than uploading to the filmmaker section. i just logged in and the upload form on the vids.myspace.com page is different from that on the filmmaker upload page in profile. On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:22 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: myspace video

2006-03-01 Thread Deirdre Straughan
On 3/2/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh. i wonder if the upload to the vids section is different thanuploading to the filmmaker section.i just logged in and the upload form on the vids.myspace.com page is different from that on the filmmaker upload page in profile.The upload