Re: [videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling
I haven't seen any of these interviews, and only occasionally watch Rocketboom, so I haven't got upset about it. Okay, maybe Andrew's gone over to the dark side. But, to be fair, many others have made this kind of comment as well, and every time this group has leaped up to defend our artistic merit. With all due (and serious) respect to Michael and everyone else, perhaps we take ourselves a little too seriously? Sure, videoblogging in general is important as an _expression_ of the fact that EVERYONE can make TV. There is real power in that, and as a phenomenon it will have major impact on the world. But, to be honest, when we look at individual vlogs, most of us (myself included) aren't that good at making TV. There's a reason why the folks in Hollywood get paid the big bucks: they're professionals. Over time, some of us will learn to make equally compelling content. But most of us are playing to niche audiences, and always will. I know that my videos are mostly interesting to my friends and family, people who like to look at images of Italy, Indians nostalgic for rumali roti, and a few other very small categories. That's fine with me. I'm making them mostly for fun and to see what I can do with the medium, not to prove a point or gain a large audience. There's nothing wrong with being out on the long tail, but we shouldn't feel dissed when someone points out that that's exactly where we are. My niche media may not appeal to you or yours to me, but we can each be sure that it appeals to someone out there. Most of us would agree that 99% of the entertainment available to us today is crap (though we don't all agree on which 1% is the good stuff). That proportion isn't going to change just because there's more of us making it. On 11/22/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it's not like it was just one comment that was just not worded aswell as he would have liked.He does it over and over again.It'sgot to stop.But read the other thread.Andrew doesn't see aproblem here.He says he stands by everything he's said. Personally, I worked too hard and I've watched many of you work toohard to have to put up with that crap.It would be one thing if hewas just voicing his personal dislike of a particular thing.But forthe creator of the most downloaded videoblog to, time and time again, dismiss most of the rest of us every time he gets interviewed, wellthat's got to do some damage.Don't you think?-- best regards,Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] 1600?
What does this all mean for this group of 1600ish what ever happed to 1200? i was just getting use to that number. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Multiple cams
Hi folks, I'm new here and new to webcams and videoblogging. Is there a previous thread on how to set up multiple webcams on a single PC? I went through the pages, but couldn't find anything on this. Can anyone help? Thanks regards, Shufiyan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't seen any of these interviews, and only occasionally watch Rocketboom, so I haven't got upset about it. Okay, maybe Andrew's gone over to the dark side. But, to be fair, many others have made this kind of comment as well, and every time this group has leaped up to defend our artistic merit. With all due (and serious) respect to Michael and everyone else, perhaps we take ourselves a little too seriously? Sure, videoblogging in general is important as an expression of the fact that EVERYONE can make TV. There is real power in that, and as a phenomenon it will have major impact on the world. But, to be honest, when we look at individual vlogs, most of us (myself included) aren't that good at making TV. There's a reason why the folks in Hollywood get paid the big bucks: they're professionals. Over time, some of us will learn to make equally compelling content. But most of us are playing to niche audiences, and always will. I know that my videos are mostly interesting to my friends and family, people who like to look at images of Italy, Indians nostalgic for rumali roti, and a few other very small categories. That's fine with me. I'm making them mostly for fun and to see what I can do with the medium, not to prove a point or gain a large audience. There's nothing wrong with being out on the long tail, but we shouldn't feel dissed when someone points out that that's exactly where we are. My niche media may not appeal to you or yours to me, but we can each be sure that it appeals to someone out there. Most of us would agree that 99% of the entertainment available to us today is crap (though we don't all agree on which 1% is the good stuff). That proportion isn't going to change just because there's more of us making it. Yup, desktop publishing didn't produce a flood of design geniuses. ;) On 11/22/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it's not like it was just one comment that was just not worded as well as he would have liked. He does it over and over again. It's got to stop. But read the other thread. Andrew doesn't see a problem here. He says he stands by everything he's said. Personally, I worked too hard and I've watched many of you work too hard to have to put up with that crap. It would be one thing if he was just voicing his personal dislike of a particular thing. But for the creator of the most downloaded videoblog to, time and time again, dismiss most of the rest of us every time he gets interviewed, well that's got to do some damage. Don't you think? -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
Hi, I want to add my welcome to new list members too. I've been with this list since day one and have enjoyed being a member. When some people first look at videoblogging they just see videos on web pages. It's more than that. This group, comments, emails and links have brought together people from all over the world with similar interests, and relationships have formed between us. It's the power of blogs combined with video that is making something new and exciting happen here. For those of you who are new to videoblogging, I'd like to point out my site http://www.feevlog.com/ It's a place where I keep track of both free and paid video blogging solutions. Thanks, --Steve On Nov 22, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Jay dedman wrote: But i want to let you know that this list if for you to ask the group questions or share knowledge. We all want to help you get started videoblogging. I cant think of a more qualified group of people to do that. If you are starting from scratchplease visit http://freevlog.org which was made for beginners. If you need to ask questions, please be as specific as possible. -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] War On Text
To me a video blog is a blog that sometimes includes video. One the reasons that videoblogs have taken off is because they are based on the technology of blogging software. At January's vloggercon, I stood up and showed my videos in the context of the blog, with their associated text entries. The blog post has value. I would never declare a war on text because it is an integral part of my videoblog. The text part of my blog has links to things that I mention in my video, stories behind the making of my video blog post, and links to other vloggers that I highlight sometimes. It feeds the community. My video blog is a marriage between text and video, and I do not want a divorce. On Nov 23, 2005, at 12:53 AM, Josh Wolf wrote: War on Text? This is the most asinine idea that I have ever encountered. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Google analytics
yes but i can't add more sites Regards L Le 23 nov. 05 à 09:23, Ted Tagami a écrit : Is your google analytics site still working? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] help
FYI from vSocial's site: By posting any Content to the public areas of the Website, you hereby grant to vSocial the non-exclusive, fully paid, worldwide license to use, publicly perform and display such Content on the Website. On Nov 23, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Brad Webb wrote: Well, since I recognized the original poster as a recent signup for vSocial, I figure I should jump in. We're supporting 90% of videos that are being uploaded --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: War On Text
This has really got me thinking. I love that videoblogging is getting more and more widespread on the internet (themed, un-themed, series', whatever, I really don't care), and I think it's all just a natural extension from text. So natural, in fact, that my blog was only text-based for a couple of posts before I decided to steer toward a vlog instead. It just seemed like the obvious next thing to do with it. Actually, my (v)blog remains a mishmash of text and video. I have no plans on streamlining it to be either one or the other, and I don't yet plan to split it in two and carry on with both. Sometimes I just have to write it out. Sometimes video is better. Lucas, you needn't be saddened by the impending war on text. There won't be one. BUT there should be exploration down textless avenues...it's only natural. Not to mention cool as hell. I want as many of my senses as active as possible while I interact with people, and that's really what this is all about (I susbscribe to people.--Steve Garfield). If we can get as far as a Smell-o-vlog, I can die happy. b. http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/22/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i keep thinking of my (unborn)kids who will go online and SEE and HEAR the world through their computers. Its a real sharing of consciousness. Seeing and hearing is a lot closer to the way we think about things. It's easier to absorb what somebody is saying if you can see their face and hands and body language. I mean, there has never yet been a text blog post where the person didn't talk at all, yet people communicate without talking in the real world all the time. I'll be sad when that happens. I love writing and the way that the internet has gotten me to write all the time. I remember when the internet first blew up that I was exercising my writing muscles more than I ever had, but that's not going to be the case when things are mainly seeing and hearing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] New Member Introduction
Just wanted to say hey to everyone. Ive just gotten into Vidcasting lately and host a show called The Cult of UHF http://cultofuhf.libsyn.com Hope to learn a bunch here, thanks for all the info so far. The Right Rev. Chumley Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: How Old is Dick Cavett?
Now, that last comment is both understandable and profound. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: How Old is Dick Cavett? On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:52:28 +0100, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember, if you respect your fellow humans the terrorists have won. What does this remark mean? It seems to me that it's just a random irrelevant question. It was indeed an attempt at being funny (marking satire as satire defeats the point of satire in the first place). You can read about the phrase at wikipedia (where you also could've found Cavett's age): URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_terrorists_have_won Blogs and community websites have been using the phrase for humour by inserting ludicrous activities before the phrase such as: If you stop eating Oreos the terrorists have won. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] How Old is Dick Cavett?
Good point. I got in motion just a couple hours before the program. I didn't even think of looking up Cavett's age on the Internet. I'm always amazed that some obvious uses for the Internet just don't pop into our minds. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jake Ludington To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:28 PM Subject: RE: [videoblogging] "How Old is Dick Cavett?" My next questions for Dick Cavett would have been: "What are you doing now?" and "Have you encountered age discrimination in our youth oriented media?" Both of those would have been fascinating to have answered. Not sure about the age discrimination, but you can find a fair amount about him online. IMDB.com again being a good place to start. Dan Rathers screw up aside, everyone (gross generalization) in the new media should take a lesson from the old media and do some background research on whatever it is they are covering as a citizen journalist. Being an amateur doesnt mean going in uninformed. Jake Ludington http://www.podcastingstarterkit.com http://www.jakeludington.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] War On Text
I'm always surprised at how few people post text with links to further information when they post a vlog. I just stumbled on an exhibit of fabulous sculpture from Zimbabwe. Apparently, working in sculpture was only introduced there in the 1950s and that country's artisans have become world famous for how they have mastered it. I found a lot of interesting stuff and put the links in the text vlog for those who might want to investigate the subject further. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joan Khoo To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] War On Text I'm not so keen on the war on text. Don't get me wrong, I love audio and video as a medium. But I also have a love interest with the written word. As much as I love to watch what everyone else is doing and feeling, sometimes I prefer to let my imagination take hold when reading a text.-Joan On 11/23/05, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/22/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i keep thinking of my (unborn)kids who will go online and SEE and HEAR the world through their computers. Its a real sharing of consciousness.Seeing and hearing is a lot closer to the way we think about things.It's easier to absorb what somebody is saying if you can see theirface and hands and body language.I mean, there has never yet been a text blog post where the person didn't talk at all, yet peoplecommunicate without talking in the real world all the time.I'll be sad when that happens.I love writing and the way that theinternet has gotten me to write all the time.I remember when the internet first blew up that I was exercising my writing muscles morethan I ever had, but that's not going to be the case when things aremainly seeing and hearing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Letting the AUDIENCE decide.....
Hey.New thread, same story... because i want to point out something.The recent conversation that ended up being largely about vlogger R-E-S-P-E-C-T and all that brought up some interesting opinions.All of which is fine and dandy. What I will point out now is what I see as the power of the audience, something that is often undervalued.In the context of video content coming from videoblogs, we can all agree that their is a mix of good, bad and ugly as this is an inevitability across all content mediums throughout history and into the future. Add to that fact the uniqueness of each within an audience This gives you a swirling mix of people who contrast in what they love and hate on any given day. Sure, some people or groups of people can influence larger groups of people in what they choose to say out loud. I am not saying there is zero impact. I can be referring to Baron from rBoom or Verdi from freevlog or Jobs from APPLE. Here is why we should not get too worked up about what others say about videobloggers, negative of otherwise, and instead just let time tell the story of what the audience feels. Because the vast majority of the viewing audience of Internet Video are going to seek and find whatever it is that they like... and even that can change month to month, person to person. Someone who loves rBoom today, may get an instant headache from it 6 months later and find new interest in the personal video journal of a Mom in North Carolina or a pothead in california or a political activist or a truck driver or a cat or a religious sermon in god knows where. And vise versa. I am undermining the power of expressed opinions from people who talk about videobloggers... whether they talk it up or talk it down or talk it out of town. You cant stop this from happening it's a human thing. The great thing is, you can disagree... and hopefully that disagreement is done with respect and style. The revolution will stand, regardless. it's the new medium that deserves mass respect and awe. The fact that we can all, or at least those who are fortunate, can create and deliver... that is the core of this entire revolution. Some will participate in this revolution by trying to entertain, others will try to educate and then there is all that space in between. Do what you want, do it well, and people will watch if they care to, not if some evangelist or critc sais so. All - keep on saying what you want... it all matters. Just not as much as you may think. ;-)peace - thanks - giving -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
And a good place for references is of course at the wikipedia entry for VLOG:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VlogOn 11/23/05, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,I want to add my welcome to new list members too.I've been with this list since day one and have enjoyed being a member.When some people first look at videoblogging they just see videos onweb pages. It's more than that.This group, comments, emails and links havebrought together people from all over the world with similar interests,and relationships have formed between us.It's the power of blogs combined with video that is making something new and exciting happen here.For those of you who are new to videoblogging, I'd like to point out mysite http://www.feevlog.com/It's a place where I keep track of both free and paid video blogging solutions.Thanks,--SteveOn Nov 22, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Jay dedman wrote: But i want to let you know that this list if for you to ask the group questions or share knowledge. We all want to help you get started videoblogging. I cant think of a more qualified group of people to do that. If you are starting from scratchplease visit http://freevlog.org which was made for beginners. If you need to ask questions, please be as specific as possible.--Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog- http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
Steve Garfield wrote: It's more than that. This group, comments, emails and links have brought together people from all over the world with similar interests, and relationships have formed between us. Steve brings up a great point and I have always liked how he describes videoblogging as a continuum of watching, learning, creating and teaching. http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2005/07/videoblogging-is-continuum.html As you explore the vlogosphere, please check out http://Node101.org, http://MeetTheVloggers.org and other sites where you can share your passion for videoblogging with others in workshops and presentations. -- markus sandy http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] help
Steve Garfield wrote: FYI from vSocial's site: By posting any Content to the public areas of the Website, you hereby grant to vSocial the non-exclusive, fully paid, worldwide license to use, publicly perform and display such Content on the Website. Also from vSocial's site: This license will terminate at the time you remove such Content from the Website. ... (http://www.vsocial.com/terms.php) It says you let us display your work on the site -- and is revokable, by the user, at any time -- where's the issue with that? Did I miss something, or should hosting services not have the right to display the works they host -- especially for free -- am I unaware of the catch here? On Nov 23, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Brad Webb wrote: Well, since I recognized the original poster as a recent signup for vSocial, I figure I should jump in. We're supporting 90% of videos that are being uploaded --Steve -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
Don't you mean video podcast? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase video podcast since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of videoblog or the shortened vlog for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for video podcast other than the recent buzz factor? Josh On 11/23/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a good place for references is of course at the wikipedia entry for VLOG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlog On 11/23/05, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to add my welcome to new list members too. I've been with this list since day one and have enjoyed being a member. When some people first look at videoblogging they just see videos on web pages. It's more than that. This group, comments, emails and links have brought together people from all over the world with similar interests, and relationships have formed between us. It's the power of blogs combined with video that is making something new and exciting happen here. For those of you who are new to videoblogging, I'd like to point out my site http://www.feevlog.com/ It's a place where I keep track of both free and paid video blogging solutions. Thanks, --Steve On Nov 22, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Jay dedman wrote: But i want to let you know that this list if for you to ask the group questions or share knowledge. We all want to help you get started videoblogging. I cant think of a more qualified group of people to do that. If you are starting from scratchplease visit http://freevlog.org which was made for beginners. If you need to ask questions, please be as specific as possible. -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
Hi Josh, It's more than simple 'buzz factor.' Most people don't know what or how to connect to media via xml feeds. 'Podcast' is making headway as the generic term to describe this via Apple's (and others') marketing and promotion. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple way to extend what people already know. Vlog isn't good as it is meaningless to anyone that doesn't know the 'v' stands for video. Videoblog is better and more precise if you are talking about a website in blog format that also has video and feeds associated with it. Video podcast is more precise when talking specifically about the feed and any web site associated with it is simply that, associated with it, but not crucial to it. The dangerous part is if one uses the term 'podcast' people might become confused and think that it only works with an ipod or is meant to be used in association with an ipod. I've seen a few launches of video feeds recently where the only instructions they give on how to use it is to use iTunes. This is a problem (I'm sure you'll agree). On 11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you mean video podcast? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase video podcast since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of videoblog or the shortened vlog for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for video podcast other than the recent buzz factor? Josh -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
I'd guess buzz. A search over at http://inventory.overture.com gives these results for October searches: vlog - 3,199 videoblog - 366 video blog - 6,353 video podcast - 1,360 ipod video - 86,341 Gotta go change my vlog name to Steve Garfield's iPod Video Blog On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Don't you mean video podcast? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase video podcast since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of videoblog or the shortened vlog for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for video podcast other than the recent buzz factor? --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] help
i think people tend to use the search feature to scan these terms/condition pages for evil keywords. i know i do ;-) Steve, do you still see a problem with vSocial's terms?Persoanlly, I see vSocial as an honest project with proper interests in mind. sullOn 11/23/05, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Garfield wrote:FYI from vSocial's site:By posting any Content to the public areas of the Website, you herebygrant to vSocial the non-exclusive, fully paid, worldwide license to use, publicly perform and display such Content on the Website.Also from vSocial's site:This license will terminate at the time you remove such Content fromthe Website. ... ( http://www.vsocial.com/terms.php)It says you let us display your work on the site -- and is revokable,by the user, at any time -- where's the issue with that? Did I miss something, or should hosting services not have the right to display theworks they host -- especially for free -- am I unaware of the catch here?On Nov 23, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Brad Webb wrote: Well, since I recognized the original poster as a recent signup forvSocial, I figure I should jump in. We're supporting 90% of videos thatare being uploaded --Steve--Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technologyhttp://vslabs.vsocial.com/vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281(602) 885-2295 - Mobile(480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] help
oops. I misread that paragraph. On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:19 AM, Brad Webb wrote: Steve Garfield wrote: FYI from vSocial's site: By posting any Content to the public areas of the Website, you hereby grant to vSocial the non-exclusive, fully paid, worldwide license to use, publicly perform and display such Content on the Website. Also from vSocial's site: This license will terminate at the time you remove such Content from the Website. ... (http://www.vsocial.com/terms.php) It says you let us display your work on the site -- and is revokable, by the user, at any time -- where's the issue with that? Did I miss something, or should hosting services not have the right to display the works they host -- especially for free -- am I unaware of the catch here? On Nov 23, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Brad Webb wrote: Well, since I recognized the original poster as a recent signup for vSocial, I figure I should jump in. We're supporting 90% of videos that are being uploaded --Steve -- Brad Webb, Director of Social Media Technology http://vslabs.vsocial.com/ vSocial | Custom One Media, LLC 51 W. Third Street, #301 Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 885-2295 - Mobile (480) 967-9575 - Fax Yahoo! Groups Links --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
yo,podcast is utterly the worst word that could have ever come out of audioblogging and now videoblogging. i absolutely despise it. why? because any term that references a specific product from a specific company that is in no way exclsuive to what it is is wrong and confusing. also, you say:To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simpleway to extend what people already know. wrong.. most people know podcasts as being internet radio... audio! so, in essence, your saying adding video makes sense to prelude an audio term. video radio anyone?Apple (becoming more and more synonymous with the evil biblic apple) jumped on the term after it was hyped by the likes of Adam Currywhen it finally allowed rss subscriptions in iTunes Fine! makes sense for them... since it's their product being referenced anyway. But what about those who don tuse apple products? Its annoying and not ambiguous, when it should be.Hell, iTunes does video. Change the fricking name of your app then! its not just about tunes, not just about iPods... if anyone should be changing terms, its Apple, not vloggers who actually use video and blogs... oh and vlog is just short for videoblog and not looked at as some replacement term for videoblog... web log = blog. same deal.. so what. dont forget, also T Whid, there is establishment in the videoblogging community we had vloggercon and several projects and events use 'vlog' in their names. Dont tell us that we should change all that just because an apple video iPod came out shit, i have had a portable video player for over a year no change in terminology and vocabulary required upon purchase. sullOn 11/23/05, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh,It's more than simple 'buzz factor.' Most people don't know what orhow to connect to media via xml feeds. 'Podcast' is making headway asthe generic term to describe this via Apple's (and others') marketing and promotion. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simpleway to extend what people already know.Vlog isn't good as it is meaningless to anyone that doesn't know the'v' stands for video. Videoblog is better and more precise if you are talking about awebsite in blog format that also has video and feeds associated withit.Video podcast is more precise when talking specifically about the feed and any web site associated with it is simply that, associated withit, but not crucial to it.The dangerous part is if one uses the term 'podcast' people mightbecome confused and think that it only works with an ipod or is meant to be used in association with an ipod. I've seen a few launches ofvideo feeds recently where the only instructions they give on how touse it is to use iTunes. This is a problem (I'm sure you'll agree). On 11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you mean video podcast? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase video podcast since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of videoblog or the shortened vlog for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for video podcast other than the recent buzz factor? Josh--twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery.http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Hey Bill, I'm not sure why FeedBurner wouldn't be picking up your videos as enclosures... Have you tried contacting FeedBurner support? Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey thanks, that transcoding feature would be a big help to me. I currently upload to Youtube for that and use you guys for the QuickTime file. And to be honest I happen to love Blip.tv so I would rather use you guys for everything. There is one thing that I am curious about (and I don't know if this is an issue on your end or somewhere else, as I suspect it might be) And that is since I've been hosting my files with Blip I've had to manually add the enclosure to my feed in order for it to work. Prior to this I had been using my own web host for storage and the enclosures just worked when I made a new post to the blog. I'm using WordPress and Feedburner so I don't know if that's where the problem is or with blip.tv. Any ideas? Anyone? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jared at Blip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Bill, we've been experimenting with transcoding Quicktime movies to Flash Video (FLV) on Blip - if it will help, I can make a Flash version of your video available. otherwise, it played fine for me - Mac OS X 10.4.3 with Quicktime 7.0.2, and 3ivx D4 4.5.1 installed. let us know if there's anything we can do for you! cheers, - Jared -- Jared Klett Co-founder, Blip.tv E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://jklett.blip.tv/ AIM: JaredAtWrok Skype: JaredOnSkype On Nov 21, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Bill Streeter wrote: Yeah the issue is with the video that I posted on Blip.tv http://blip.tv/file/4915/ of Richard and I returning from the Meet the Vloggers in Chicago. It's not on my main blog, so there is no Flash version, it's the QuickTime. This happened once before. I did something with 3vix that made some people get a white screen rather than a picture. And the weird thing was that these people had simularly configured machines to mine (OS 10.4 QuickTime 7) etc. Yet I could view the files and they couldn't. The only thing I could think of was the fact that I had 3vix installed on my Quicktime and they didn't. Bill Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] War On Text
Jay dedman wrote: Audio and video are a more natural medium than text for most humans. i keep thinking of my (unborn)kids who will go online and SEE and HEAR the world through their computers. And by then we'll be able to use h.264 Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
yo to you, On 11/23/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yo, podcast is utterly the worst word that could have ever come out of audioblogging and now videoblogging. i absolutely despise it. why? because any term that references a specific product from a specific company that is in no way exclsuive to what it is is wrong and confusing. a danger that I mentioned in my email also, you say: To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple way to extend what people already know. wrong.. most people know podcasts as being internet radio... audio! so, in essence, your saying adding video makes sense to prelude an audio term. video radio anyone? I don't agree. they understand it as 'subscribing' to 'something' to get audio. When you add video it's instantly recognizable as 'subscribing' to 'something' to get not audio, now video. dont forget, also T Whid, there is establishment in the videoblogging community we had vloggercon and several projects and events use 'vlog' in their names. Dont tell us that we should change all that just because an apple video iPod came out shit, i have had a portable video player for over a year no change in terminology and vocabulary required upon purchase. I'm not telling you to change anything I would encourage you to call it whatever you like. But I'm interested in explaining this stuff to people who may not know anything about it and the shortest possible route presently is 'video podcast.' Apple, Curry and others are pouring lots of time and dollars in making the podcast term understood by ordinary consumers. And presently the way they're defining it is broad enough that it doesn't conflict with the message I want to get out. Why shouldn't I take advantage of the education they're doing? It may come back to bite me in the ass, but for now it seems worth it. sull On 11/23/05, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh, It's more than simple 'buzz factor.' Most people don't know what or how to connect to media via xml feeds. 'Podcast' is making headway as the generic term to describe this via Apple's (and others') marketing and promotion. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple way to extend what people already know. Vlog isn't good as it is meaningless to anyone that doesn't know the 'v' stands for video. Videoblog is better and more precise if you are talking about a website in blog format that also has video and feeds associated with it. Video podcast is more precise when talking specifically about the feed and any web site associated with it is simply that, associated with it, but not crucial to it. The dangerous part is if one uses the term 'podcast' people might become confused and think that it only works with an ipod or is meant to be used in association with an ipod. I've seen a few launches of video feeds recently where the only instructions they give on how to use it is to use iTunes. This is a problem (I'm sure you'll agree). On 11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you mean video podcast? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase video podcast since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of videoblog or the shortened vlog for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for video podcast other than the recent buzz factor? Josh -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from
Re: [videoblogging] April Vloggercon in New York
I heard about a vlogger conference in New York sometime in April...Anyone know the exact dates? I am thinking about going to America next year, would be cool to check it out! Nathan Miller http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling
Apart from that, Mefeedia is right now just plain the best place tofind videoblogs. Perhaps in a year from now, vlogs.yahoo.com will be the best place tofind videoblogs, or perhaps not :)to follow my theme of the day (apparently), let the audience decide =)i used to work in marketing and hated when i had to make factual claims that were opinion based. 2 words can help avoid this...heheh. one of the best is josh leo the best videoblogger or one of the best? i love josh leo.i love mefeedia (maybe thats why I gave it its name- wink wink) i love peter.i'll shut up now.out. -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] April Vloggercon in New York
it's true. i believe it will happen in april, but Jay Dedman will have to provide dates... not sure.but maybe we should rename it videopodcastcon or nobody will show up. On 11/23/05, Nathan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard about a vlogger conference in New Yorksometime in April...Anyone know the exact dates? I amthinking about going to America next year, would becool to check it out!Nathan Miller http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
Damn, Vimeo Vogblogiobating still only gives hits to my domain on Google. My quest for global adoption has failed. - Andreas On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:39:29 +0100, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd guess buzz. A search over at http://inventory.overture.com gives these results for October searches: vlog - 3,199 videoblog - 366 video blog - 6,353 video podcast - 1,360 ipod video - 86,341 Gotta go change my vlog name to Steve Garfield's iPod Video Blog On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Don't you mean video podcast? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase video podcast since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of videoblog or the shortened vlog for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for video podcast other than the recent buzz factor? --Steve -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
i know. i know. i really do. i'm not mad at you are expect anything blah blah...i'm just saying =)On 11/23/05, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:yo to you,On 11/23/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:yo, podcast is utterly the worst word that could have ever come out of audioblogging and now videoblogging.i absolutely despise it.why? because any term that references a specific product from a specific company that is in no way exclsuive to what it is is wrong and confusing.a danger that I mentioned in my email also, you say: To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple way to extend what people already know. wrong.. most peopleknow podcasts as being internet radio... audio!so, in essence, your saying adding video makes sense to prelude an audio term. video radio anyone?I don't agree. they understand it as 'subscribing' to 'something' toget audio. When you add video it's instantly recognizable as'subscribing' to 'something' to get not audio, now video. dont forget, also T Whid, there is establishment in the videoblogging communitywe had vloggercon and several projects and events use 'vlog' in their names.Dont tell us that we should change all that just because an apple video iPod came out shit, i have had a portable video player for over a year no change in terminology and vocabulary required upon purchase.I'm not telling you to change anything I would encourage you to call it whatever you like.But I'm interested in explaining this stuff to people who may not knowanything about it and the shortest possible route presently is 'videopodcast.' Apple, Curry and others are pouring lots of time and dollars in making the podcast term understood by ordinary consumers. Andpresently the way they're defining it is broad enough that it doesn'tconflict with the message I want to get out. Why shouldn't I takeadvantage of the education they're doing? It may come back to bite me in the ass, but for now it seems worth it. sull On 11/23/05, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh, It's more than simple 'buzz factor.' Most people don't know what or how to connect to media via xml feeds. 'Podcast' is making headway as the generic term to describe this via Apple's (and others') marketing and promotion. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple way to extend what people already know. Vlog isn't good as it is meaningless to anyone that doesn't know the 'v' stands for video. Videoblog is better and more precise if you are talking about a website in blog format that also has video and feeds associated with it. Video podcast is more precise when talking specifically about the feed and any web site associated with it is simply that, associated with it, but not crucial to it. The dangerous part is if one uses the term 'podcast' people might become confused and think that it only works with an ipod or is meant to be used in association with an ipod. I've seen a few launches of video feeds recently where the only instructions they give on how to use it is to use iTunes. This is a problem (I'm sure you'll agree). On 11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you mean video podcast? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase video podcast since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of videoblog or the shortened vlog for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for video podcast other than the recent buzz factor? Josh -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Links --sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregatorhttp://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlogYAHOO! GROUPS LINKSVisit your group videoblogging on the web.To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an
Re: [videoblogging] help
Nope. Any revised wording to keep people from misreading them would help. On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: i think people tend to use the search feature to scan these terms/condition pages for evil keywords. i know i do ;-) Steve, do you still see a problem with vSocial's terms? --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: for the new people on this group
Bill,I agree with your distinction I have also made this point in the past which is why I am particular to adding the term vodcast with videoblog for me, vodcast is more acceptable than video podcast. but the distinction you mention is indeed valid. sullOn 11/23/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah that's basically my reasoning too. People seem to understandwhat a podcast is more than they understand what a Vlog is-- becauseof the 'buzz' factor. The general public understands on some generallevel that one can subscribe to a podcast via iTunes but they don't necessarily understand that you can subscribe to the content of mostblogs via an aggregator. Explaining RSS subscriptions is still likespeaking greek to most people, but they get podcasting because ofit's popularity. But I think that there are some fine distinctions that are becomingclear between the two concepts of video blog and video podcast.Distinctions that aren't going to be obvious to most people new toboth concepts. And it has nothing to do with personal versus the show format (a distinction that I think I've heard made herebefore.)This is what I see emerging;A video podcast is something that can be watched outside of thecontext of it's original blog posting, or it might not have anything to do with a blog—it could just be video on an RSS feed that islisted and subscribed to from some directory somewhere and theinteraction between the audience and the podcaster more mimicstraditional media because the normal feedback loop that is part of a blog is not important or is broken or discarded all together—liketraditional media, it's basically one way communication. It's alsovideo encoded in such a way to be compatible with the iPod.A video blog is video on a blog that can be aggregated via rss, like a podcast, but also offers all the interaction and additionalcontextual information of a traditional blog. And can really beencoded in any video format.These are fine distinctions, I know, but I think that they are valid. I also think that you can have both. One could have a videoblog that is also a video podcast. Where the content is designed insuch a way that the audience can read and use the interactivefeatures of a traditional blog or just ignore all of that and just watch whatever comes down the feed. The video feed can basicallystands on it's own, butadditional information, interaction andlinks are available on the blog if the viewer chooses to view thisadditional info or comment. I kinda look at what I'm doing in this light. But I use the term video podcast because that's what peopleseem to understand right now. Baby steps ... get them hooked onpodcasts, then turn them on to video blogs.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh, It's more than simple 'buzz factor.' Most people don't know what or how to connect to media via xml feeds. 'Podcast' is making headwayas the generic term to describe this via Apple's (and others') marketing and promotion. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a verysimple way to extend what people already know. Vlog isn't good as it is meaningless to anyone that doesn't know the 'v' stands for video. Videoblog is better and more precise if you are talking about a website in blog format that also has video and feeds associatedwith it. Video podcast is more precise when talking specifically about thefeed and any web site associated with it is simply that, associated with it, but not crucial to it. The dangerous part is if one uses the term 'podcast' people might become confused and think that it only works with an ipod or ismeant to be used in association with an ipod. I've seen a few launches of video feeds recently where the only instructions they give on how to use it is to use iTunes. This is a problem (I'm sure you'll agree). On 11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you mean video podcast? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in thisgroup change their weblog title or description to include thephrase video podcast since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging thosesearching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of videoblog or the shortened vlog for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reasonpeople are opting for video podcast other than the recent buzz factor? Josh -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
These are searches people made NOT results. Lots of people are looking for ipod video, fewer are searching for vlogs. On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:39 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: A search over at http://inventory.overture.com gives these results for October searches: vlog - 3,199 videoblog - 366 video blog - 6,353 video podcast - 1,360 ipod video - 86,341 --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Pointer the the hack please? On Nov 23, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Bill Streeter wrote: Thanks I figured it out. David Mead pointed out to me that it is a shortcoming between Wordpress and using a remote host and had a handy little hack for it. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
according to those #s, video podcast is doing pretty crappy too :-( On 11/23/05, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are searches people made NOT results. Lots of people are looking for ipod video, fewer are searching for vlogs. On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:39 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: A search over at http://inventory.overture.com gives these results for October searches: vlog - 3,199 videoblog - 366 video blog - 6,353 video podcast - 1,360 ipod video - 86,341 --Steve -- -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: for the new people on this group
Pure buzz. I have seen a direct increase in traffic and promotion by adding podcast to the title of my pages and getting listed on podcast directories. Other than being a niche-themed vlog, the podcast term has helped to build subscribers fast... http://www.vlogmap.org/feedburner/fbfeed.php?fbid=ridertech -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd guess buzz. A search over at http://inventory.overture.com gives these results for October searches: vlog - 3,199 videoblog - 366 video blog - 6,353 video podcast - 1,360 ipod video - 86,341 Gotta go change my vlog name to Steve Garfield's iPod Video Blog On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Don't you mean video podcast? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase video podcast since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of videoblog or the shortened vlog for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for video podcast other than the recent buzz factor? --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
Sure it's here: http://www.davidmeade.com/post/post.php?topicID=579 Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pointer the the hack please? On Nov 23, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Bill Streeter wrote: Thanks I figured it out. David Mead pointed out to me that it is a shortcoming between Wordpress and using a remote host and had a handy little hack for it. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] April Vloggercon in New York
I heard about a vlogger conference in New York sometime in April...Anyone know the exact dates? I am thinking about going to America next year, would be cool to check it out! we are still negotaiting for affordable space here in NYC. im shooting for April 29 and 30. i will officlally announce it ASAPso people can make plans. its still a good 5 months away. be good to meet you nathan. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Multiple cams
Is there a previous thread on how to set up multiple webcams on a single PC? I went through the pages, but couldn't find anything on this. Can anyone help? this is a new topic...so we've never discussed. as far as im awareyou can only have one webcam on a computer at a time. can you explain why you want mulitple cameras? maybe we can think of another way. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling
I had put make TV in quotes precisely because making TV is not what most of us are after, but that is how we are perceived by many outsiders. It is not a matter of them being professionals, because the moment you gave one of those professionals a camera, computer, and internet connection and told them to go make an extremely compelling vlog alone, it would end up being just like (if not worse) than ours. That's a very tall claim, and insulting to the professionals who give us beautiful things to watch. There are a lot of people out there who know a lot more about visual storytelling, camera angles, lighting, etc. than I do. Professional equipment is only part of the story. I'm sure that Ken Burns could take the footage of my interview with my dad and make something a lot more compelling out of it (not to mention that he would have gotten a better interview to begin with), even using the same lousy camera and cheap editing software that I did. That doesn't bother me - if anything, it gives me something to strive for, and I'm enjoying learning. But I don't kid myself that I will ever get or even deserve a Ken Burns type of audience. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] How to remove live chat?
How do you remove Recent Comments, Today's Most Watched, and Live Chat from your blip.tv vblog page. Hassan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Multiple cams
I have multiple cams on both my PC and Mac at various times. Sometimes up to four. However, I can generally only access one at a time. I can switch between them in many apps (e.g., flash meeting) one reason i am interested in this is for VJ'ing inputing multiple video sources for use in re-mixing Jay dedman wrote: Is there a previous thread on how to set up multiple webcams on a single PC? I went through the pages, but couldn't find anything on this. Can anyone help? this is a new topic...so we've never discussed. as far as im awareyou can only have one webcam on a computer at a time. can you explain why you want mulitple cameras? maybe we can think of another way. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Letting the AUDIENCE decide.....
Correct, and well said, Sull. R-E-S-P-E-C-T. It's also an I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y thing, impacting not only you but also the community. It's no different from failing to disclose you have a relationship with a company when you make a recommendation, when the fact comes out your audience feels duped, it's a respect failure. Bottom line: embrace the right to express opinion, respect all parties (including observers), and demand integrity. Stay beautiful everyone, keep expressing opinions and progressing the conversation. And happy Thanksgiving! cheers r On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: Hey. New thread, same story... because i want to point out something. The recent conversation that ended up being largely about vlogger R-E-S-P-E-C-T and all that brought up some interesting opinions. All of which is fine and dandy. What I will point out now is what I see as the power of the audience, something that is often undervalued. In the context of video content coming from videoblogs, we can all agree that their is a mix of good, bad and ugly as this is an inevitability across all content mediums throughout history and into the future. Add to that fact the uniqueness of each within an audience This gives you a swirling mix of people who contrast in what they love and hate on any given day. Sure, some people or groups of people can influence larger groups of people in what they choose to say out loud. I am not saying there is zero impact. I can be referring to Baron from rBoom or Verdi from freevlog or Jobs from APPLE. Here is why we should not get too worked up about what others say about videobloggers, negative of otherwise, and instead just let time tell the story of what the audience feels. Because the vast majority of the viewing audience of Internet Video are going to seek and find whatever it is that they like... and even that can change month to month, person to person. Someone who loves rBoom today, may get an instant headache from it 6 months later and find new interest in the personal video journal of a Mom in North Carolina or a pothead in california or a political activist or a truck driver or a cat or a religious sermon in god knows where. And vise versa. I am undermining the power of expressed opinions from people who talk about videobloggers... whether they talk it up or talk it down or talk it out of town. You cant stop this from happening it's a human thing. The great thing is, you can disagree... and hopefully that disagreement is done with respect and style. The revolution will stand, regardless. it's the new medium that deserves mass respect and awe. The fact that we can all, or at least those who are fortunate, can create and deliver... that is the core of this entire revolution. Some will participate in this revolution by trying to entertain, others will try to educate and then there is all that space in between. Do what you want, do it well, and people will watch if they care to, not if some evangelist or critc sais so. All - keep on saying what you want... it all matters. Just not as much as you may think. ;-) peace - thanks - giving -- sull Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Video on Demand (VOD), it's relation to video-podcasting
What does everyone think about the recent VOD (video on demand) developments, with CBS/Comcast NBC/DirecTV deals? Some articles (see below) make reference to the Apple video iPod/iTunes medium (.99/show), which is VOD. Everyone seems to be jumping on the audio podcast medium: NEWS: iTunes Podcast Subscriptions Top One Million in First Two Days That event kicked off a tsunami of new audio podcasts that has yet to abate. http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/...reut/index.html Apple on Monday announced that its customers at its iTunes Music Store has bought and downloaded more than one million videos in less than 20 days. Video content first appeared for purchase on October 12, 2005 ... Selling one million videos in less than 20 days strongly suggests there is a market for legal downloads, Steve Jobs, Apple CEO, said in a statement. Our next challenge is to broaden our content offerings, so that customers can enjoy watching more videos on their computers and new iPods, Sources have said Apple is in discussions to lure more television networks to provide programming. It looks as if Video on Demand (VoD) is beginning to catch on: http://www.latimes.com/business/cus...-home-headlines Cable giant Comcast Corp. struck an agreement with Viacom Inc.'s CBS network that will let cable subscribers with digital service order the top-rated CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Survivor, The Amazing Race and NCIS. Viewers will pay 99 cents an episode through their video-on-demand cable service. Just last month, Walt Disney Co.'s ABC struck a deal to sell its popular network series Lost and Desperate Housewives on Apple Computer Inc.'s video iPods for $1.99 an episode. Both deals are the first of what are expected to be numerous similar arrangements. They mark the latest examples of how technology is altering the television experience and the traditional network business. For 50 years, TV has been a passive medium, said David Zaslav, president of NBC Universal's cable group, which includes networks USA and Bravo, whose programming is also part of the DirecTV deal. But consumers want more choice and more convenience. All the signals are there of a meaningful change in how people watch television. If you don't play, you'll get left behind, NBC Universal's Zaslav said. He added that NBC programming would be increasingly available on devices other than television, such as cellphones, to expand its revenue sources. NBC makes parts of The Tonight Show With Jay Leno available for download on mobile phones.
[videoblogging] Re: War On Text
The most asinine idea ever? Wow I must be getting somewhere :) Let me expand on what I meant. For a start the term 'war on text' is supposed to be tongue in cheek, as the 'War On Terror' is one of the most stupid things Ive ever come across. Secondly Im a massive hypocrite on this issue because Ive posted about million words here over the last year but only 3 videos. But that doesnt stop me hating the downside of text, such as how arguments/debates end up going when done via text. I dont think your version if history tells the full story because its missing out the fact of just how many people were and still are illiterate. In this sense text can be great barrier, a great divider, a great unequalizer and tool of maintaining the status quo and keeping people in their place. These sorts of things along with language barriers make me dream of computers that required no understanding of the written word in order to be used, quite a challenge, but that no excuse for the world never trying this stuff. I really like this quote from the film 'A Fistful of Dynamite', which doesnt quite fit this topic but overlaps it a bit in my mind: The people who read the books, they go to the poor people, and they say we have to have a revolution. So the poor people go out and make the revolution. And then the people who read the books, they sit around the fancy tables and talk. And what has happened to the poor people ? They are DEAD !!. And then the whole fucking shit starts all over again. Dont talk to me about revolutions. OK I dot really want a war on text, as if such a thing was possible. But I do favour text being used where it works best, and as many lively discussions as possible taking place via video instead. I am currently considering whether to throw my hat into the ring of people using flash comm server (now flash media server) to deliver interesting video services on the web, I'll do anything to get rid of the text version of me which I consider to be even more of a nghtmare than the multimedia version of me lol. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: War on Text? This is the most asinine idea that I have ever encountered. First off, we're talking about a natural evolution that will or won't occur whether or not you decide to declare a supposed war on text. Secondly, let's look at this historically, prior to the invention of the telephone, people wrote letters and many of these letters were quite eloquent; just watch a Ken Burns doc. Suddenly the telephone allowed us to communicate instantaneously and allowed us to have the banal conversations we have every day even when our loved ones were away. This point marks the decline of letter writing. Before there was radio and then TV, books were a more prevalent form of entertainment, and there is something to be said about the literary value of a well-written book that simply isn't comparable through video. I can list dozens more reasons why text is a valuable part of our culture, and the very fact that you're engaging in this dialogue through a written mailing list proves it. So please tell me why you want to embark upon a war on text? Really the whole idea is needlessly provocative and altogether spooky... Josh The Revolution Will Be Televised www.joshwolf.net On Nov 22, 2005, at 7:56 PM, Joan Khoo wrote: I'm not so keen on the war on text. Don't get me wrong, I love audio and video as a medium. But I also have a love interest with the written word. As much as I love to watch what everyone else is doing and feeling, sometimes I prefer to let my imagination take hold when reading a text. -Joan On 11/23/05, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/22/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i keep thinking of my (unborn)kids who will go online and SEE and HEAR the world through their computers. Its a real sharing of consciousness. Seeing and hearing is a lot closer to the way we think about things. It's easier to absorb what somebody is saying if you can see their face and hands and body language. I mean, there has never yet been a text blog post where the person didn't talk at all, yet people communicate without talking in the real world all the time. I'll be sad when that happens. I love writing and the way that the internet has gotten me to write all the time. I remember when the internet first blew up that I was exercising my writing muscles more than I ever had, but that's not going to be the case when things are mainly seeing and hearing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:59:15 +0100, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me expand on what I meant. For a start the term 'war on text' is supposed to be tongue in cheek, as the 'War On Terror' is one of the most stupid things Ive ever come across. Adrian Miles wrote this some years ago: While Michael Joyce once, rather famously, commented that hypertext is the word's revenge on TV (Joyce, 1995: 47) I'd like to suggest that hypertext is in fact cinema's revenge on the word, and what I am interested in exploring is the word's remaking of itself in the light of the cinematic. This 'allure of the cinematic' as the expression of an always immanent cinematic force probably takes various forms, however through the comparison of a particular cinematic moment or gesture - the edit - in the light of a particular hypertextual moment or gesture - the link, this force is given, in some manner, corporeal expression. Anyway, food for thought. the entire thing is online at: URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/essays/cinema_paradigms/introduction.html - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: War On Text
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The most asinine idea ever? Wow I must be getting somewhere :)
Let me expand on what I meant. For a start the term 'war on text' is
supposed to be tongue in cheek, as the 'War On Terror' is one of the
most stupid things Ive ever come across.
Secondly Im a massive hypocrite on this issue because Ive posted about
million words here over the last year but only 3 videos. But that
doesnt stop me hating the downside of text, such as how
arguments/debates end up going when done via text.
I dont think your version if history tells the full story because its
missing out the fact of just how many people were and still are
illiterate. In this sense text can be great barrier, a great divider,
a great unequalizer and tool of maintaining the status quo and keeping
people in their place. These sorts of things along with language
barriers make me dream of computers that required no understanding of
the written word in order to be used, quite a challenge, but that no
excuse for the world never trying this stuff.
I really like this quote from the film 'A Fistful of Dynamite', which
doesnt quite fit this topic but overlaps it a bit in my mind:
The people who read the books, they go to the poor people, and they
say we have to have a revolution. So the poor people go out and make
the revolution. And then the people who read the books, they sit
around the fancy tables and talk. And what has happened to the poor
people ? They are DEAD !!.
And then the whole fucking shit starts all over again.
Dont talk to me about revolutions.
OK I dot really want a war on text, as if such a thing was possible.
But I do favour text being used where it works best, and as many
lively discussions as possible taking place via video instead. I am
currently considering whether to throw my hat into the ring of people
using flash comm server (now flash media server) to deliver
interesting video services on the web, I'll do anything to get rid of
the text version of me which I consider to be even more of a nghtmare
than the multimedia version of me lol.
Steve of Elbows
Text just doesn't flow your long hair.
;)
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
War on Text? This is the most asinine idea that I have ever
encountered. First off, we're talking about a natural evolution that
will or won't occur whether or not you decide to declare a supposed
war on text. Secondly, let's look at this historically, prior to
the invention of the telephone, people wrote letters and many of
these letters were quite eloquent; just watch a Ken Burns doc.
Suddenly the telephone allowed us to communicate instantaneously and
allowed us to have the banal conversations we have every day even
when our loved ones were away. This point marks the decline of
letter
writing. Before there was radio and then TV, books were a more
prevalent form of entertainment, and there is something to be said
about the literary value of a well-written book that simply isn't
comparable through video. I can list dozens more reasons why text is
a valuable part of our culture, and the very fact that you're
engaging in this dialogue through a written mailing list proves it.
So please tell me why you want to embark upon a war on text?
Really
the whole idea is needlessly provocative and altogether spooky...
Josh
The Revolution Will Be Televised
www.joshwolf.net
On Nov 22, 2005, at 7:56 PM, Joan Khoo wrote:
I'm not so keen on the war on text. Don't get me wrong, I love
audio and video as a medium. But I also have a love interest with
the written word. As much as I love to watch what everyone else is
doing and feeling, sometimes I prefer to let my imagination take
hold when reading a text.
-Joan
On 11/23/05, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On
11/22/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i keep thinking of my (unborn)kids who will go online and SEE
and
HEAR
the world through their computers. Its a real sharing of
consciousness.
Seeing and hearing is a lot closer to the way we think about things.
It's easier to absorb what somebody is saying if you can see their
face and hands and body language. I mean, there has never yet
been a
text blog post where the person didn't talk at all, yet people
communicate without talking in the real world all the time.
I'll be sad when that happens. I love writing and the way that the
internet has gotten me to write all the time. I remember when the
internet first blew up that I was exercising my writing muscles more
than I ever had, but that's not going to be the case when things are
mainly seeing and hearing.
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Re: [videoblogging] Deadline for entries into WATM's Remixoff competition, 11/30/2005, 12:00 pm
ok so now i know what the tag which 'tag' method do you recomment? I only found 2 videos tagged in mefeedia with it and 3 tagged in technorati? and they were different sets of videos! where are WATM collecting them from? wouldn;t want to tag mine in the wrong place! SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: War On Text
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:59:15 +0100, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me expand on what I meant. For a start the term 'war on text' is supposed to be tongue in cheek, as the 'War On Terror' is one of the most stupid things Ive ever come across. Adrian Miles wrote this some years ago: While Michael Joyce once, rather famously, commented that hypertext is the word's revenge on TV (Joyce, 1995: 47) I'd like to suggest that hypertext is in fact cinema's revenge on the word, and what I am interested in exploring is the word's remaking of itself in the light of the cinematic. This 'allure of the cinematic' as the expression of an always immanent cinematic force probably takes various forms, however through the comparison of a particular cinematic moment or gesture - the edit - in the light of a particular hypertextual moment or gesture - the link, this force is given, in some manner, corporeal expression. Anyway, food for thought. the entire thing is online at: URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/essays/cinema_paradigms/introduction.html - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. I don't see the relationship. Cinema and the subset of the edit is linear, hypertext is non-linear. This seems more poetic simile mismatch than illuminating. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Videoblog vs video podcast (was: for the new people on this group)
Bill brings up excellent points here. what is a video podcast and what is a videoblog? This is what I see emerging; A video podcast is something that can be watched outside of the context of it's original blog posting, or it might not have anything to do with a blog—it could just be video on an RSS feed that is listed and subscribed to from some directory somewhere and the interaction between the audience and the podcaster more mimics traditional media because the normal feedback loop that is part of a blog is not important or is broken or discarded all together—like traditional media, it's basically one way communication. It's also video encoded in such a way to be compatible with the iPod. i see iTunes and other commercial platforms creating video stores that let you download video. the video is only available from their site...and is a one way medium. in iTunes, if your videoblog is in their directory...there is no link back to your post. i can download it...and thats it. this is a cool service becasue i may want the latest episode of Lost...and there it is...2$. but i cant tell that pretty actress how i feel about her. iTunes and other services dont help me learn how to videoblog myself. A video blog is video on a blog that can be aggregated via rss, like a podcast, but also offers all the interaction and additional contextual information of a traditional blog. And can really be encoded in any video format. i love the term videoblog because it recognizes the coolness of the blogging community. Blog to me brings to mind all the positive, empowering things that have emerged in the last 5 years. i post a video and it adds value to the whole web. my video is link-able, search-able, archive-able, subscribe-able. I leave a comment on your video. I can download your video, remix it, and send a trackback to you. this is what has made blogging so powerful. so bottom line: i love that iTunes has gotten into the mix. let them have podcast or video podcast. as ive said before...they are helping people learn a new metaphor for finding and getting video/audio. RSS is not the easiest to explain. iTunes help people SEE how RSS works in something they already have. in the next year after this world grows...people will start looking around. they'll leave the iTunes store and see what else is in the neighborhood. they'll come party with us. the videobloggers. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] How to remove live chat?
On Nov 23, 2005, at 3:13 PM, hassan shakir wrote: How do you remove Recent Comments, Today's Most Watched, and Live Chat from your blip.tv vblog page. hi Hassan, at the moment, those sections - we call them sideboxes - can't be removed on a per=user basis. however, I'll have the check the code, but I believe that support for sideboxes appearing based on user preferences already exists. I'll add it to our todo list and the development status on our wiki. I'm sure that others will benefit from such a feature, too! :) http://pokkari.com/wiki/index.php/Development_status cheers, - Jared -- Jared Klett Co-founder, Blip.tv E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://jklett.blip.tv/ AIM: JaredAtWrok Skype: JaredOnSkype Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
We recently had an exercise here at DivX where we charted global changes based on media paradigms. Starting with written words bringing about commerce in Mesopotamia through the very recent concept of mass shared experiences. It is interesting that the format of media can limit not only how you express yourself, but what is possible to be expressed. It isn't a stretch to translate the format of media into a limiting factor on what is possible to be thought as well. We obviously believe that digital media, in general, is a shift as profound as the advent of writing itself. Digital video is a very rich subset of digital media. Digital media isn't an assault on any previous craft of media, but an enabler. The limits of digital expression in text are certainly not exhausted. However, it is much more mature than personal expression through video. Innovation in technology, production and spirit are happening in digital video expression on a daily basis. Jim V From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:59 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text The most asinine idea ever? Wow I must be getting somewhere :) Let me expand on what I meant. For a start the term 'war on text' is supposed to be tongue in cheek, as the 'War On Terror' is one of the most stupid things Ive ever come across. Secondly Im a massive hypocrite on this issue because Ive posted about million words here over the last year but only 3 videos. But that doesnt stop me hating the downside of text, such as how arguments/debates end up going when done via text. I dont think your version if history tells the full story because its missing out the fact of just how many people were and still are illiterate. In this sense text can be great barrier, a great divider, a great unequalizer and tool of maintaining the status quo and keeping people in their place. These sorts of things along with language barriers make me dream of computers that required no understanding of the written word in order to be used, quite a challenge, but that no excuse for the world never trying this stuff. I really like this quote from the film 'A Fistful of Dynamite', which doesnt quite fit this topic but overlaps it a bit in my mind: The people who read the books, they go to the poor people, and they say we have to have a revolution. So the poor people go out and make the revolution. And then the people who read the books, they sit around the fancy tables and talk. And what has happened to the poor people ? They are DEAD !!. And then the whole fucking shit starts all over again. Dont talk to me about revolutions. OK I dot really want a war on text, as if such a thing was possible. But I do favour text being used where it works best, and as many lively discussions as possible taking place via video instead. I am currently considering whether to throw my hat into the ring of people using flash comm server (now flash media server) to deliver interesting video services on the web, I'll do anything to get rid of the text version of me which I consider to be even more of a nghtmare than the multimedia version of me lol. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: War on Text? This is the most asinine idea that I have ever encountered. First off, we're talking about a natural evolution that will or won't occur whether or not you decide to declare a supposed war on text. Secondly, let's look at this historically, prior to the invention of the telephone, people wrote letters and many of these letters were quite eloquent; just watch a Ken Burns doc. Suddenly the telephone allowed us to communicate instantaneously and allowed us to have the banal conversations we have every day even when our loved ones were away. This point marks the decline of letter writing. Before there was radio and then TV, books were a more prevalent form of entertainment, and there is something to be said about the literary value of a well-written book that simply isn't comparable through video. I can list dozens more reasons why text is a valuable part of our culture, and the very fact that you're engaging in this dialogue through a written mailing list proves it. So please tell me why you want to embark upon a war on text? Really the whole idea is needlessly provocative and altogether spooky... Josh The Revolution Will Be Televised www.joshwolf.net On Nov 22, 2005, at 7:56 PM, Joan Khoo wrote: I'm not so keen on the war on text. Don't get me wrong, I love audio and video as a medium. But I also have a love interest with the written word. As much as I love to watch what everyone else is doing and feeling, sometimes I prefer to let my imagination take hold when reading a text. -Joan On
Re: [videoblogging] Deadline for entries into WATM's Remixoff competition, 11/30/2005, 12:00 pm
you can tag them in del.icio.us, in tecnorati, or just email a reporter (sidebar on the site) well find it...On 11/23/05, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok so now i know what the tag which 'tag' method do you recomment? I only found 2 videos tagged in mefeedia with it and 3 tagged in technorati? and they were different sets of videos! where are WATM collecting them from? wouldn;t want to tag mine in the wrong place! SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comvlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: New Member Introduction
Thanks Jay, Good to know I'm headed in the right direction. If anyone watches an episode I'm always looking for feedback. Feel free to tear it apart, you cant hurt my feelings. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to say hey to everyone. Ive just gotten into Vidcasting lately and host a show called The Cult of UHF http://cultofuhf.libsyn.com Hope to learn a bunch here, thanks for all the info so far. welcome chumley. his feed is here: http://cultofuhf.libsyn.com/rss for being new...you got all the right stuff on your videoblog. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:15:08 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the relationship. Cinema and the subset of the edit is linear, hypertext is non-linear. This seems more poetic simile mismatch than illuminating. It was just a quote. Obviously it helps to read it all. :o) Cinema is non-linear before you decide on the edit as well. And when hypertext is read it too become linear (you choose one path out of a group of possibles). The difference is that there is one central person doing the edit in cinema whereas in hypertext the edit is performed individually with each reading. The point is that in cinema is that the in-between clips is part of the meaning and the same in true in hypertext (with the reader creating the in-betweens, making a huge change). Did that help at all? - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: The most asinine idea ever? Wow I must be getting somewhere :) Let me expand on what I meant. For a start the term 'war on text' is supposed to be tongue in cheek, as the 'War On Terror' is one of the most stupid things Ive ever come across. Tongue in cheek or not, not everyone out there seems to realize just how antithetic the entire idea of an armed war against terror really is. By the same token, people could, though probably not, take the War on Text seriously, as I said: Really the whole idea is needlessly provocative and altogether spooky... Secondly Im a massive hypocrite on this issue because Ive posted about million words here over the last year but only 3 videos. But that doesnt stop me hating the downside of text, such as how arguments/debates end up going when done via text. Although it's true that there is a much greater tendency to get cruel and personal through text-based arguments. I'd prefer to think that not everyone suffers from this neurosis that results in countless ad hominid attacks, and debates over text can frequently result in a much more comprehensive discussion of the issue than what might be brought up in a a/v conversation. I dont think your version if history tells the full story because its missing out the fact of just how many people were and still are illiterate. That's completely true Steve, but to suggest that the solution is for us to equalize the great divide by abandoning the written language. Oh wait, maybe I suddenly get it... it's almost like dropping white phosphorous on women and children in Fallujah in a war against WMDS. That probably seems harsh, but dude, computers and the internet are obviously just as great a barrier, divider, and unequalizer, and just as strong a tool that threatens to maintain the status quo (although they don't do a good job at keeping people in place, but neither do books.) Yes, the $100 laptop could theoretically change all of this, but Negroponte's project still seems more like a pipe dream to me and wouldn't help those who are functionally illiterate within the US. In this sense text can be great barrier, a great divider, a great unequalizer and tool of maintaining the status quo and keeping people in their place. These sorts of things along with language barriers make me dream of computers that required no understanding of the written word in order to be used, quite a challenge, but that no excuse for the world never trying this stuff. I really like this quote from the film 'A Fistful of Dynamite', which doesnt quite fit this topic but overlaps it a bit in my mind: The people who read the books, they go to the poor people, and they say we have to have a revolution. So the poor people go out and make the revolution. And then the people who read the books, they sit around the fancy tables and talk. And what has happened to the poor people ? They are DEAD !!. And then the whole fucking shit starts all over again. Dont talk to me about revolutions. OK I dot really want a war on text, as if such a thing was possible. But I do favour text being used where it works best, and as many lively discussions as possible taking place via video instead. I am currently considering whether to throw my hat into the ring of people using flash comm server (now flash media server) to deliver interesting video services on the web, I'll do anything to get rid of the text version of me which I consider to be even more of a nghtmare than the multimedia version of me lol. So I basically agree with you here... to the extent that, I think people need to not feel limited to only communicating via text. I think cell phones are starting to change the way people view different mediums. Now that you can send photos and videos to your friends from your phone, I think people are beginning to liberate themselves from only communicating simply with language. That's cool. But for me it's all about finding your voice, not assigning boxes for where text is and is not appropriate. When they give you lined paper write the other way. -- Juan Ramon Jiminez Josh -- www.joshwolf.net Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: War on Text? This is the most asinine idea that I have ever encountered. First off, we're talking about a natural evolution that will or won't occur whether or not you decide to declare a supposed war on text. Secondly, let's look at this historically, prior to the invention of the telephone, people wrote letters and many of these letters were quite eloquent; just watch a Ken Burns doc. Suddenly the telephone allowed us to communicate instantaneously and allowed us to have the banal conversations we have every day even when our loved ones were away. This point marks the decline of letter writing. Before there was radio and then
[videoblogging] Re: Multiple cams
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah in theory theres nothing to stop multiple cams being used at the same time. A powerful machine starts to become necessary depending on the res, framerate, codec and efficiency of the camera drivers used. I've been simultaneously capturing two 720x480, 60i, DV camcorders via firewire on a PC for 3D with no problems, but I have a quite *fast* PC. I also have to use _two_ separate firewire cards. I've never tried three at once. I have had minimal luck trying this with USB cams, and believe me, I have tried :-) Usually, my computer just crashes :-) I use GraphEdit to do this... downloadable from a variety of websites. Keep in mind, this does not genlock or clock-sync cameras. To genlock cameras, you have to genlock the cameras, themselves, or figure out a way to clock-sync them or at least monitor the sync via a separate video output or LANC connection, and that will eventually drift. I use a tool called a Sync Shepherd: www.ledametrix.com/lcdsync/ to monitor the sync, but on that same website there is a tool called a LANC Shepherd, if you have LANC, that actually can give you a good degree of sync at power-up (but again, that would drift in time). Simultaneous firewire capture to a computer does not insure frame sync, even with clock-synced cams, although I get perfect frame sync most of the time. I have to check it every time. Syncing to better than 1/500th of a second can be important for 3D, but depending on your intentions, it may not be necessary. You can find firewire webcams, but you would not be able to clock-sync them or monitor the sync, because you need a separate video output or LANC to do that. Roger -- Roger's Adventures: http://www.puppetkites.net/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Multiple cams
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can find firewire webcams, but you would not be able to clock-sync them or monitor the sync, because you need a separate video output or LANC to do that. Actually, those would not be clock-controlled, anyway... I've never tried to use two firewire webcams. It might be fun to try, but I've never seen the point in using them since I have DV camcorders to work with. You'll still need separate firewire cards with a PC for simultaneous capture. Of course, if you are not doing 3D, accurate syncing is probably not a huge issue, anyway, for DV captures. Roger Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling
On 11/23/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are not geneticaly limited to a certain way of producing media.Yet. -- Enric YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling
I think this argument could be settled if Andrew simply pointed to other outstanding vlogs. I find that three out of four, even five out of six of all the vlogs I decide to watch (which is only about one or two per page on Blip TV) are very disappointing. If someone spent two or three hours watching every vlog posted, one after the other, the result would be tedium and a splitting headache. I find vlogging is somewhat like panning for gold. You sift through a lot of stuff and here and there you find something that really sparkles. And, yes, certain vloggers are almost always outstanding and interesting even when tackling dull subjects. So, one carefully selects the books one reads. You don't run into a library or a bookstore and grab something. That is why we need a Vlog Digest. It would be a sorting place where people who were interested in art vlogs could find a selection with a couple paragraphs description attached. This happens a wee bit with comments. However, few people leave comments. That is the real shame. Some great work goes unappreciated. Whenever I see a vlog that really has a spark in it, I leave encouraging feedback. I rarely leave negative remarks. In fact, I think I posted my very first one yesterday on a video entitled "Eat Shit" that had terrible music but also contained great footage of fancy skateboarding--complete with great camera angles catching the action. Yes, there is Vlogdir and Vlogmap and the aggregator engines. However, they all just gather all the leaves falling from the video camera tree when capturing the vibrancy and color of the leaves is a more complicated and compelling task. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Deirdre Straughan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling I haven't seen any of these interviews, and only occasionally watch Rocketboom, so I haven't got upset about it. Okay, maybe Andrew's gone over to the dark side. But, to be fair, many others have made this kind of comment as well, and every time this group has leaped up to defend our artistic merit.With all due (and serious) respect to Michael and everyone else, perhaps we take ourselves a little too seriously?Sure, videoblogging in general is important as an _expression_ of the fact that EVERYONE can "make TV". There is real power in that, and as a phenomenon it will have major impact on the world.But, to be honest, when we look at individual vlogs, most of us (myself included) aren't that good at making TV. There's a reason why the folks in Hollywood get paid the big bucks: they're professionals. Over time, some of us will learn to make equally compelling content. But most of us are playing to niche audiences, and always will. I know that my videos are mostly interesting to my friends and family, people who like to look at images of Italy, Indians nostalgic for rumali roti, and a few other very small categories. That's fine with me. I'm making them mostly for fun and to see what I can do with the medium, not to prove a point or gain a large audience.There's nothing wrong with being out on the long tail, but we shouldn't feel dissed when someone points out that that's exactly where we are. My niche media may not appeal to you or yours to me, but we can each be sure that it appeals to someone out there.Most of us would agree that 99% of the "entertainment" available to us today is crap (though we don't all agree on which 1% is the good stuff). That proportion isn't going to change just because there's more of us making it. On 11/22/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it's not like it was just one comment that was just not worded aswell as he would have liked.He does it over and over again.It'sgot to stop.But read the other thread.Andrew doesn't see aproblem here.He says he stands by everything he's said. Personally, I worked too hard and I've watched many of you work toohard to have to put up with that crap.It would be one thing if hewas just voicing his personal dislike of a particular thing.But forthe creator of the most downloaded videoblog to, time and time again, dismiss most of the rest of us every time he gets interviewed, wellthat's got to do some damage.Don't you think?-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:31:07 +0100, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is why we need a Vlog Digest. It would be a sorting place where people who were interested in art vlogs could find a selection with a couple paragraphs description attached. Blogs are self-organizing systems. Whenever you see something you like post a comment about it on your blog and link to the blog entry. When everyone does this the problem is automagically solved. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Stop this petty Squabbling
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/23/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are not geneticaly limited to a certain way of producing media. Yet. -- Enric Hehe, wait until nanotech gets incorporated into bio. -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling
I agree, That knowledge of these things does pay a huge role in the final end product. and I also agree that there are people with an amazing amount of skill that could do amazing things. I guess I was just trying to get the idea that the money + time + resources + other people is the main factor of why television shows and movies are so good (production quality, and some content). If I took the time to actually set up a studio/lighting/microphones and didn't have to hold the camera myself etc..i might be able to make a closer-to-professional quality video. But i also know that I have a paper to write later that night so spending a day on making a video is not the best use of my time (especially when I don't get paid for it) I do know some things about lighting, audio, editing, and visual storytelling, but there is much for me to still learn. I will never be able to produce the content that is up the the standards of Hollywood because i do not have the time, money, contacts. However, I am trying to learn more, maybe get FCP certification, take a documentary production class...somewhere down the line. I do what I can with what I have, and that is the most i can ask from myself. and though I might agree with you that I made a bit of a tall claim, I think that these professionals are skilled in areas and work together to create a final product. There may be some who could jump in and produce amazing content right off the bat, but I think that a specialist in lighting may have a hard time getting used to being in front of the camera...not saying that they would never be skilled at it, but vloggers wear many hats (talent, director, editor, audio, lighting, maybe even writing) and putting on those hats isn't always easy. just some additional thoughtsno real argument here...On 11/23/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a very tall claim, and insulting to the professionals who give us beautiful things to watch. There are a lot of people out there who know a lot more about visual storytelling, camera angles, lighting, etc. than I do. Professional equipment is only part of the story. I'm sure that Ken Burns could take the footage of my interview with my dad and make something a lot more compelling out of it (not to mention that he would have gotten a better interview to begin with), even using the same lousy camera and cheap editing software that I did. That doesn't bother me - if anything, it gives me something to strive for, and I'm enjoying learning. But I don't kid myself that I will ever get or even deserve a Ken Burns type of audience. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comvlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling
didn't we already go over this topic? vlog soup, ryannes revog, my picks, WATM's vlog digest, richard's picks, the watchthis tagwe are filtering out the good stuffOn 11/23/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is why we need a Vlog Digest. It would be a sorting place where people who were interested in art vlogs could find a selection with a couple paragraphs description attached. -- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comvlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
Steve, those statistics are amazing. You are joking about changing the name of your vlog aren't you? Or are you? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Steve Garfield To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group I'd guess buzz.A search over at http://inventory.overture.com gives these results for October searches:vlog - 3,199videoblog - 366video blog - 6,353video podcast - 1,360ipod video - 86,341Gotta go change my vlog name to "Steve Garfield's iPod Video Blog"On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Don't you mean "video podcast"? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase "video podcast" since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of "videoblog" or the shortened "vlog" for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for "video podcast" other than the recent buzz factor?--Steve-- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
I agree with Michael. "Podcast" just sounds ugly. The word brings to mind images like a terribly obese man or a swarm of oysters--if oysters could "swarm". Actually, "video radio" has a nice ring to it. Never heard that term before. I also agree that "podcast" ties everything to the iPod thing. I'm not into iPods or boomboxes so it doesn't resonate with me. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Michael Sullivan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group yo,podcast is utterly the worst word that could have ever come out of audioblogging and now videoblogging. i absolutely despise it. why? because any term that references a specific product from a specific company that is in no way exclsuive to what it is is wrong and confusing. also, you say: To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simpleway to extend what people already know. wrong.. most people know podcasts as being internet radio... audio! so, in essence, your saying adding video makes sense to prelude an audio term. video radio anyone?Apple (becoming more and more synonymous with the evil biblic apple) jumped on the term after it was hyped by the likes of Adam Currywhen it finally allowed rss subscriptions in iTunes Fine! makes sense for them... since it's their product being referenced anyway. But what about those who don tuse apple products? Its annoying and not ambiguous, when it should be.Hell, iTunes does video. Change the fricking name of your app then! its not just about tunes, not just about iPods... if anyone should be changing terms, its Apple, not vloggers who actually use video and blogs... oh and "vlog" is just short for videoblog and not looked at as some replacement term for videoblog... web log = blog. same deal.. so what. dont forget, also T Whid, there is establishment in the videoblogging community we had vloggercon and several projects and events use 'vlog' in their names. Dont tell us that we should change all that just because an apple video iPod came out shit, i have had a portable video player for over a year no change in terminology and vocabulary required upon purchase. sull On 11/23/05, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Josh,It's more than simple 'buzz factor.' Most people don't know what orhow to connect to media via xml feeds. 'Podcast' is making headway asthe generic term to describe this via Apple's (and others') marketing and promotion. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simpleway to extend what people already know.Vlog isn't good as it is meaningless to anyone that doesn't know the'v' stands for video.Videoblog is better and more precise if you are talking about awebsite in blog format that also has video and feeds associated withit.Video podcast is more precise when talking specifically about the feed and any web site associated with it is simply that, associated withit, but not crucial to it.The dangerous part is if one uses the term 'podcast' people mightbecome confused and think that it only works with an ipod or is meant to be used in association with an ipod. I've seen a few launches ofvideo feeds recently where the only instructions they give on how touse it is to use iTunes. This is a problem (I'm sure you'll agree).On 11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you mean "video podcast"? I'm joking, of course, but I've noticed a lot of people in this group change their weblog title or description to include the phrase "video podcast" since the release of the video iPod. Is this simply to gain a little extra Google-juice with the hopes of snagging those searching for the phrase? I'm personally still on the side of "videoblog" or the shortened "vlog" for a number of reasons... many of them already discussed here... I'm just curious to know if there's another reason people are opting for "video podcast" other than the recent buzz factor? Josh--twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery.http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - -
[videoblogging] The FCC Song
for those of you offended by the 'f' word, please ignore thisfor anyone else who loves monty python..please please check out our newest episode...#5. i'm just so excited because i love silly humor and THIS is silly!he he.cheers.sharewww.rocknrolltv.net ps. the song was given away by Eric Idle on the Monty Python site, so I'm hoping this is okay. If not, then I hope he will find the humor in line with his intent. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] for the new people on this group
Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 3:00:58 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: podcast is utterly the worst word that could have ever come out of audioblogging and now videoblogging. i absolutely despise it. why? because any term that references a specific product from a specific company that is in no way exclsuive to what it is is wrong and confusing. Maybe I'm being naive here. Or maybe it's a British vs American cultural thing, but to me the name podcast has already transcended the name iPod. And I never felt particularly that podcast implied iPod. The way I have always looked at it was that Apple decided to co-opt the existing, but bland, word pod, and use it to coin a new, simple term for the more clumsy but popular MP3 Player. They particularly needed to do this, otherwise the ability of their player to play MP3 files would be seen as it's major purpose, rather than Apple's aim of playing their own DRM format. So the community wins. We now have a new, simple, pronounceable word pod that describes a portable media player without reference to any format, medium or manufacturer. Hurrah! Best of all, the community is free to invent new words to describe things such as the process of subscribing and distributing media for such a player: podcasting. Now, Apple (for whatever reason) like the prefix i. So _their_ media player is called iPod. In the same way that their notebook computer is called iBook. I don't know what it's like where anyone else lives, but around here the overwhelmingly popular name for a media player is still MP3 player. That's what seven-year-olds ask for for their birthdays. Apple's iPod range are just seen as (expensive and pretentious) examples among many. Bottom line, I'm happy to use podcasting and podcast, and to distinguish as appropriate where medium or format is an issue :- MP3 podcasting, Quicktime video podcast, PDF podcast, or whatever. In most cases though, it's much simpler and just as understandable to just say podcast. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple way to extend what people already know. wrong.. most people know podcasts as being internet radio... audio! so, in essence, your saying adding video makes sense to prelude an audio term. video radio anyone? Umm. Wasn't the word video itself merely some sort of contraction of vision and radio ? -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Stop this petty Squabbling
Randolfe Wicker wrote: If someone spent two or three hours watching every vlog posted, one after the other, the result would be tedium and a splitting headache. Not necessarily. I try to keep up on as many as possible for a variety of reasons. Perhaps it depends on what you're looking for in the videos. I find vlogging is somewhat like panning for gold. You sift through a lot of stuff and here and there you find something that really sparkles. Now that's true. But, so far, no headache. Also, there are many other gems and valuable nuggets than just gold in them thar streams. -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] help
I ended up at Blip TV. I think they are evolving and getting better all the time. However, in the evening I sometimes have to try uploading to or three times for it to work. I'm always holding my breath because I've put a few hours of work into any vlog I post. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: sloppysteven To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:50 PM Subject: [videoblogging] help I'm having trouble finding a reliable, free video host. I've tried everything and nothing seems to actually work. My videos are usually around 10mb so it cant have to small a limit. Of course I've used ourmedia.org but lately it seems not to work at all. Very discouraging. Please help! SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: for the new people on this group
Yeah I tend to agree with this. The POD in iPod stands for personal options device. Apple added the i (as they have been for about 8 years now) which they have always said stands for Internet. So you have Internet Personal Options Device, or iPod. Pod is really a generic term. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 3:00:58 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: podcast is utterly the worst word that could have ever come out of audioblogging and now videoblogging. i absolutely despise it. why? because any term that references a specific product from a specific company that is in no way exclsuive to what it is is wrong and confusing. Maybe I'm being naive here. Or maybe it's a British vs American cultural thing, but to me the name podcast has already transcended the name iPod. And I never felt particularly that podcast implied iPod. The way I have always looked at it was that Apple decided to co-opt the existing, but bland, word pod, and use it to coin a new, simple term for the more clumsy but popular MP3 Player. They particularly needed to do this, otherwise the ability of their player to play MP3 files would be seen as it's major purpose, rather than Apple's aim of playing their own DRM format. So the community wins. We now have a new, simple, pronounceable word pod that describes a portable media player without reference to any format, medium or manufacturer. Hurrah! Best of all, the community is free to invent new words to describe things such as the process of subscribing and distributing media for such a player: podcasting. Now, Apple (for whatever reason) like the prefix i. So _their_ media player is called iPod. In the same way that their notebook computer is called iBook. I don't know what it's like where anyone else lives, but around here the overwhelmingly popular name for a media player is still MP3 player. That's what seven-year-olds ask for for their birthdays. Apple's iPod range are just seen as (expensive and pretentious) examples among many. Bottom line, I'm happy to use podcasting and podcast, and to distinguish as appropriate where medium or format is an issue :- MP3 podcasting, Quicktime video podcast, PDF podcast, or whatever. In most cases though, it's much simpler and just as understandable to just say podcast. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple way to extend what people already know. wrong.. most people know podcasts as being internet radio... audio! so, in essence, your saying adding video makes sense to prelude an audio term. video radio anyone? Umm. Wasn't the word video itself merely some sort of contraction of vision and radio ? -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
does anyone study history? i see comments stating implicitly or explicitly that video will (note use of future tense, that's a clue folks) have the same profound effect as writing. ha ha ha. the effect of the masses being taught to read/write changed EVERYTHING in europe (i was born there, now live in north america, so i'll leave my observations to these places)... no western culture would exist in any recognizable form without writing/print... this is not an exaggeration: read about events following the black plague, memory cathedrals, martin luther, etc and it's affect on society. (one interesting example is none of us can remember much compared to those who lived before) video's not close to that and is unlikely to be: no fundamental institutions have yet formed from the existence of video... no social hierarchies of any importance (videobloggers are clearly more important than anyone else on the planet but leaving that aside...) have developed either... yes, hollywood generates celebrities people who are accorded higher social status in a mundane way, but this phenomena has been around a very long time, it isn't new; gladiators for instance. but even more importantly... in my opinion, before video will replace text, something will replace video. new technologies have already been developed that are more likely to play a large role in communications over this century... here's a couple i recently read: how about the one that can directly interface to the brain (new scientist reports on electroencephalography with quadriplegics able to make a wheelchair move forward, left or right)... considering the full implications of devices like this, it's not hard to see where the real revolutions will occur in communications. developments in hormones allow people to bottle emotional states. (look up Oxytocin's and the University of Zurich)... what artist wouldn't want to get their hands on something like that? (not to mention politicians, frustrated lovers, etc) UPSIDE so easy to be critical... one really should reveal one's own preferences. where i do feel video steps up and above is regarding tangible experiences. reading travel books has nothing on even the most amateur video footage taken in some far-off location. the subtle interplay of facial features, etc gives clear messages that'd never translate as well in text form. my videoblogs otherwise are usually quite amateurish technically, but they capture an emotion nicely... more pro ones tend to be overly concerned with polish rather than content. there's also a sense of lack-of-control (i dunno why it worked out so good, but check it out! type of blogs) which i enjoy. serendipity. newscast blogs are ok, but the regard i have for them stems from their social function... they blog stuff corporate newscasters won't touch, or think is unimportant, or is unsuited to their political agenda. blogs in the omg i'm so special style are ok in small doses... easy to relate to cuz hey! I am the most important person in my universe... and i would hope everyone else feels the same about themselves in their universe... but i'll only watch a few before moving on to someone else. CONCLUSION video's just another tool in the arsenal we have to communicate. a statement like war on text implies such a narrow vision of what experiences are worth sharing... i can't imagine how drab and dull things would be, tho if i go back and re-read 1984 perhaps i'll have an idea. later rob ps ~ someone wrote that video is non-linear... only from a creators perspective... the audience has no such luxury. whereas text? there's a thing called skim-reading. works great. text requires far less attention than video... do the test: glance at a paragraph, glance at a video. which one do you feel confident you understand the creators intent? and hyperlinks? they are the embodiment of non-linear, allowing a person to go back/forth at will to whatever section they wish. video has nothing as effective... hotspots are a cool idea, but there's a lack of grace regarding how they're incorporated into video footage. hypertext links otoh can be ignored or used with no distraction to the reading material. pps ~ war on text? ick. must've been a joke i missed cuz i find it a tasteless phrase. ppps ~ i'll go back to lurking now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] QT movies showing only white screen
Hi all ... recently we'd talked about how some people for some reason could not view certain QT files even though they had the latest version of QuickTime installed. for example I have QT7.0.3 (windows), but some files would just display white screen with audio but no video. On my PC at home I have what I thought was the same basic setup, but the videos played fine there. Here at work, I just tried something. Normally when I click on a QT movie link it opens in a new browser window. Some files end up ... blank white screen. However if I put the same url into the actual qt player (rather than letting it load the plugin in a brwoser window) it seems to play just fine. My QT Plugin also reports being 7.0.3 ... but it can't play some files correctly that the stand alone player can. Odd. So, I'm betting that some how the plugin either isn't getting updates as the main player is, or there is some magic install order needed in windows. (maybe installing QT, iTunes, Firefox in the wrong order breaks something?) - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: for the new people on this group
even if that be truth, its besides the point.plus, this here is not only about Personal Options Devices, assuming that is some weirder way of saying Portable Media Player. people watch vlogs on computers and TVs as well. pod that.;-)On 11/23/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I tend to agree with this. The POD in iPod stands for personaloptions device. Apple added the i (as they have been for about 8years now) which they have always said stands for Internet. So youhave Internet Personal Options Device, or iPod. Pod is really a generic term.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 3:00:58 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: podcast is utterly the worst word that could have ever come outof audioblogging and now videoblogging.i absolutely despise it. why? because any term that references a specific product from aspecific company that is in no way exclsuive to what it is is wrong andconfusing. Maybe I'm being naive here. Or maybe it's a British vs American cultural thing, but to me the name podcast has alreadytranscended the name iPod. And I never felt particularly that podcast implied iPod. The way I have always looked at it was that Apple decided to co-opt the existing, but bland, word pod, and use it to coin a new,simple term for the more clumsy but popular MP3 Player. Theyparticularly needed to do this, otherwise the ability of their player to play MP3 files would be seen as it's major purpose, rather than Apple's aimof playing their own DRM format. So the community wins. We now have a new, simple, pronounceableword pod that describes a portable media player without reference to any format, medium or manufacturer. Hurrah! Best of all, the community is free to invent new words to describe things such as the process of subscribing and distributing mediafor such a player: podcasting. Now, Apple (for whatever reason) like the prefix i. So _their_media player is called iPod. In the same way that their notebookcomputer is called iBook. I don't know what it's like where anyone else lives, but aroundhere the overwhelmingly popular name for a media player is still MP3 player. That's what seven-year-olds ask for for their birthdays. Apple's iPod range are just seen as (expensive and pretentious) examples among many. Bottom line, I'm happy to use podcasting and podcast, and to distinguish as appropriate where medium or format is an issue :- MP3 podcasting, Quicktime video podcast, PDF podcast, or whatever. Inmost cases though, it's much simpler and just as understandable to justsay podcast. To simply add 'video' to podcast becomes a very simple way to extend what people already know. wrong.. most peopleknow podcasts as being internet radio...audio!so, in essence, your saying adding video makes sense to prelude an audio term. video radio anyone? Umm. Wasn't the word video itself merely some sort ofcontraction of vision and radio ? -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
i think we may be comparing apples and oranges it's not really the video vs. text the distinction if really between the 'visual' and the 'abstract'. how the information is delivered does not seem change that rob wrote: does anyone study history? i see comments stating implicitly or explicitly that video will (note use of future tense, that's a clue folks) have the same profound effect as writing. ha ha ha. the effect of the masses being taught to read/write changed EVERYTHING in europe (i was born there, now live in north america, so i'll leave my observations to these places)... no western culture would exist in any recognizable form without writing/print... this is not an exaggeration: read about events following the black plague, memory cathedrals, martin luther, etc and it's affect on society. (one interesting example is none of us can remember much compared to those who lived before) video's not close to that and is unlikely to be: no fundamental institutions have yet formed from the existence of video... no social hierarchies of any importance (videobloggers are clearly more important than anyone else on the planet but leaving that aside...) have developed either... yes, hollywood generates celebrities people who are accorded higher social status in a mundane way, but this phenomena has been around a very long time, it isn't new; gladiators for instance. but even more importantly... in my opinion, before video will replace text, something will replace video. new technologies have already been developed that are more likely to play a large role in communications over this century... here's a couple i recently read: how about the one that can directly interface to the brain (new scientist reports on electroencephalography with quadriplegics able to make a wheelchair move forward, left or right)... considering the full implications of devices like this, it's not hard to see where the real revolutions will occur in communications. developments in hormones allow people to bottle emotional states. (look up Oxytocin's and the University of Zurich)... what artist wouldn't want to get their hands on something like that? (not to mention politicians, frustrated lovers, etc) UPSIDE so easy to be critical... one really should reveal one's own preferences. where i do feel video steps up and above is regarding tangible experiences. reading travel books has nothing on even the most amateur video footage taken in some far-off location. the subtle interplay of facial features, etc gives clear messages that'd never translate as well in text form. my videoblogs otherwise are usually quite amateurish technically, but they capture an emotion nicely... more pro ones tend to be overly concerned with polish rather than content. there's also a sense of lack-of-control (i dunno why it worked out so good, but check it out! type of blogs) which i enjoy. serendipity. newscast blogs are ok, but the regard i have for them stems from their social function... they blog stuff corporate newscasters won't touch, or think is unimportant, or is unsuited to their political agenda. blogs in the omg i'm so special style are ok in small doses... easy to relate to cuz hey! I am the most important person in my universe... and i would hope everyone else feels the same about themselves in their universe... but i'll only watch a few before moving on to someone else. CONCLUSION video's just another tool in the arsenal we have to communicate. a statement like war on text implies such a narrow vision of what experiences are worth sharing... i can't imagine how drab and dull things would be, tho if i go back and re-read 1984 perhaps i'll have an idea. later rob ps ~ someone wrote that video is non-linear... only from a creators perspective... the audience has no such luxury. whereas text? there's a thing called skim-reading. works great. text requires far less attention than video... do the test: glance at a paragraph, glance at a video. which one do you feel confident you understand the creators intent? and hyperlinks? they are the embodiment of non-linear, allowing a person to go back/forth at will to whatever section they wish. video has nothing as effective... hotspots are a cool idea, but there's a lack of grace regarding how they're incorporated into video footage. hypertext links otoh can be ignored or used with no distraction to the reading material. pps ~ war on text? ick. must've been a joke i missed cuz i find it a tasteless phrase. ppps ~ i'll go back to lurking now. Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo!
Re: [videoblogging] Re: mov in to wmv
Bill, where is the best place to learn how to publish in flash? I'm amazed at how quickly it loads and plays. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: mov in to wmv This is exactly why I've taken to posting Flash video for viewing onmy blog and Quicktime for the feed subscribers. Seems to have solvedthe problem. Flash video, with all it's short comings, is a prettyuniversal format. Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Juan Falla Ximena Muñoz[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Share" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how important does everyone think it is to offer up both formats? mov's and wmv's. i'm considering getting some of the software to convert the mov's into wmv's so windows users don't get sloweddown any thoughts?thanks! share www.rocknrolltv.net I work in Macs so I used to post my videos ONLY in .mov But, now I post both in .mov and .wmv It just happens that in Colombia were our families are, thecomputers don't have quicktime installed. (My brother who is a computer geek obviously hasquicktime, but a normal person who just buys a PC and never installs anything, he doesn'thave it). So, for example my wife's mother: she doesn't have a computer at home, so she has togo to an Internet Cafe to see the videos. I was on the phone telling her how to get tomy vlog and see the videos, and she couldn't see them! The computer doesn't havequicktime installed, I even spoke with the person in charge of that place and told him toinstall it, but he told me that he wasn't allowed to isntall any softwares... Huh??? Anyway, I finally had to start posting the videos in windows media,this way she can see them with out problems. So it all depends in what people are going to see your videos.Obviously if you post in .wmv too the risk of people encountering problems is minimum, somore people will be able to watch them Juan http://livingwithfallas.myblogsite.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
That is true. How can you compare mediums when they are fundamentally different. Sure they have pros and cons, but it doesn't mean that one is more superior than the other. On 11/24/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think we may be comparing apples and orangesit's not really the video vs. textthe distinction if really between the 'visual' and the 'abstract'.how the information is delivered does not seem change that rob wrote:does anyone study history?i see comments stating implicitly or explicitly that video will (note use offuture tense, that's a clue folks) have the same profound effect as writing. ha ha ha.the effect of the masses being taught to read/write changed EVERYTHING ineurope (i was born there, now live in north america, so i'll leave myobservations to these places)... no western culture would exist in any recognizable form without writing/print... this is not an exaggeration: readabout events following the black plague, memory cathedrals, martin luther,etc and it's affect on society. (one interesting example is none of us can remember much compared to those who lived before)video's not close to that and is unlikely to be: no fundamental institutionshave yet formed from the existence of video... no social hierarchies of any importance (videobloggers are clearly more important than anyone else on theplanet but leaving that aside...) have developed either... yes, hollywoodgenerates celebrities people who are accorded higher social status in a mundane way, but this phenomena has been around a very long time, it isn'tnew; gladiators for instance.but even more importantly...in my opinion, before video will replace text, something will replace video. new technologies have already been developed that are more likely to play alarge role in communications over this century... here's a couple i recentlyread:how about the one that can directly interface to the brain (new scientist reports on electroencephalography with quadriplegics able to make awheelchair move forward, left or right)... considering the full implicationsof devices like this, it's not hard to see where the real revolutions will occur in communications.developments in hormones allow people to bottle emotional states. (look upOxytocin's and the University of Zurich)... what artist wouldn't want to get their hands on something like that? (not to mention politicians, frustratedlovers, etc)UPSIDEso easy to be critical... one really should reveal one's own preferences. where i do feel video steps up and above is regarding tangible experiences.reading travel books has nothing on even the most amateur video footagetaken in some far-off location. the subtle interplay of facial features, etc gives clear messages that'd never translate as well in text form.my videoblogs otherwise are usually quite amateurish technically, but theycapture an emotion nicely... more pro ones tend to be overly concerned with polish rather than content. there's also a sense of lack-of-control (idunno why it worked out so good, but check it out! type of blogs) which ienjoy. serendipity.newscast blogs are ok, but the regard i have for them stems from their social function... they blog stuff corporate newscasters won't touch, orthink is unimportant, or is unsuited to their political agenda.blogs in the omg i'm so special style are ok in small doses... easy to relate to cuz hey! I am the most important person in my universe... and iwould hope everyone else feels the same about themselves in theiruniverse... but i'll only watch a few before moving on to someone else. CONCLUSIONvideo's just another tool in the arsenal we have to communicate.a statement like war on text implies such a narrow vision of whatexperiences are worth sharing... i can't imagine how drab and dull things would be, tho if i go back and re-read 1984 perhaps i'll have an idea.laterrobps ~ someone wrote that video is non-linear... only from a creatorsperspective... the audience has no such luxury. whereas text? there's a thing called skim-reading. works great.text requires far less attention than video... do the test: glance at aparagraph, glance at a video. which one do you feel confident you understand the creators intent?and hyperlinks? they are the embodiment of non-linear, allowing a person togo back/forth at will to whatever section they wish. video has nothing aseffective... hotspots are a cool idea, but there's a lack of grace regarding how they're incorporated into video footage. hypertext links otoh can beignored or used with no distraction to the reading material.pps ~ war on text? ick. must've been a joke i missed cuz i find it a tasteless phrase.ppps ~ i'll go back to lurking now.Yahoo! Groups Links --My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.ushttp://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.comhttp://spinflow.orghttp://wearethemedia.comhttp://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]skype: msandyspin: [EMAIL
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
On 11/23/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think we may be comparing apples and oranges it's not really the video vs. text the distinction if really between the 'visual' and the 'abstract'. how the information is delivered does not seem change that There's some word from linguistics to express this... Also, probably plenty of interesting reading on related abstractions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
Indeed, I can't think of any other centuries where global hysteria could be whipped up and calmed within hours, even minutes. On 11/24/05, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the history of the world in the last century has been rathersharply influenced by video, especially in the form on television. Itschanged the face of politics and news and the manufacturing of consent. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
Your URL please? On Nov 23, 2005, at 5:40 PM, rob wrote: my videoblogs otherwise are usually quite amateurish technically, but they capture an emotion nicely --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: for the new people on this group (POD people)
I think you may be right about the British/American thing, here. I feel pretty confident saying that in the US (or, I guess, at least in NYC...a teeny chunk of the US) iPods are directly inferred by the term podcast. Once the pod- is attached to anything, it's no longer perceived as a generic term, although someone pointed out (I don't remember who) that POD is actually an acronym. Podcasting may be an easier word for people to digest, but I feel like it's not quite a blanket term yet. It's no kleenex. Or band-aid. Or ketchup. Kids areound these parts aren't asking their parents for MP3 players for Christmas. They're asking for Nanos. b. http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I'm being naive here. Or maybe it's a British vs American cultural thing, but to me the name podcast has already transcended the name iPod. And I never felt particularly that podcast implied iPod. The way I have always looked at it was that Apple decided to co-opt the existing, but bland, word pod, and use it to coin a new, simple term for the more clumsy but popular MP3 Player... I don't know what it's like where anyone else lives, but around here the overwhelmingly popular name for a media player is still MP3 player. That's what seven-year-olds ask for for their birthdays. Apple's iPod range are just seen as (expensive and pretentious) examples among many. Bottom line, I'm happy to use podcasting and podcast, and to distinguish as appropriate where medium or format is an issue :- MP3 podcasting, Quicktime video podcast, PDF podcast, or whatever. In most cases though, it's much simpler and just as understandable to just say podcast. -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:38:12 +0100, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/23/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think we may be comparing apples and oranges it's not really the video vs. text the distinction if really between the 'visual' and the 'abstract'. how the information is delivered does not seem change that There's some word from linguistics to express this... Also, probably plenty of interesting reading on related abstractions. Probably not what you're thinking of since it's not linguistics, but semiotics talk about three types of signs: icon, index and symbol. Written language belonging to the last group (arbitrary signs given value by convention). - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: mov in to wmv
Yeah there are a couple of options. One is to publish to Youtube and they just transcode it for you. But some have expressed concerns about their user agreements. Another would be to use something like Sorrensen Squeeze at about $100 and do it yourself. Also there is a French service called DailyMotion that does some transcoding and scripting so that if you hit a video on their site and you don't have a QT enabled browser it will automagically load the Flash version. And finally the guys from Blip.tv said that they were thinking about offering some kind of Flash transcoding service. So if you already use Blip (and I know you do) you might just wait and see what they come up with. The nice thing about Flash is that you can embed it and link to a quicktime on a blog and only the quicktime file will be picked up by the feed. But yet the Flash version is still there for those that simply refuse to upgrade their computer to modern standards (a joke folks!). Feel free to email me off list if you need more help. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, where is the best place to learn how to publish in flash? I'm amazed at how quickly it loads and plays. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: mov in to wmv This is exactly why I've taken to posting Flash video for viewing on my blog and Quicktime for the feed subscribers. Seems to have solved the problem. Flash video, with all it's short comings, is a pretty universal format. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Juan Falla Ximena Mu�oz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Share [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how important does everyone think it is to offer up both formats? mov's and wmv's. i'm considering getting some of the software to convert the mov's into wmv's so windows users don't get slowed down any thoughts? thanks! share www.rocknrolltv.net I work in Macs so I used to post my videos ONLY in .mov But, now I post both in .mov and .wmv It just happens that in Colombia were our families are, the computers don't have quicktime installed. (My brother who is a computer geek obviously has quicktime, but a normal person who just buys a PC and never installs anything, he doesn't have it). So, for example my wife's mother: she doesn't have a computer at home, so she has to go to an Internet Cafe to see the videos. I was on the phone telling her how to get to my vlog and see the videos, and she couldn't see them! The computer doesn't have quicktime installed, I even spoke with the person in charge of that place and told him to install it, but he told me that he wasn't allowed to isntall any softwares... Huh??? Anyway, I finally had to start posting the videos in windows media, this way she can see them with out problems. So it all depends in what people are going to see your videos. Obviously if you post in .wmv too the risk of people encountering problems is minimum, so more people will be able to watch them Juan http://livingwithfallas.myblogsite.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group videoblogging on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: QT movies showing only white screen
David, If you are talking about the recent file that I posted on Blip it was likely the fact that I used a check box in the advanced functions of the 3ivx encoder that made it incompatible with installs of QT that didn't have this plugin. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all ... recently we'd talked about how some people for some reason could not view certain QT files even though they had the latest version of QuickTime installed. for example I have QT7.0.3 (windows), but some files would just display white screen with audio but no video. On my PC at home I have what I thought was the same basic setup, but the videos played fine there. Here at work, I just tried something. Normally when I click on a QT movie link it opens in a new browser window. Some files end up ... blank white screen. However if I put the same url into the actual qt player (rather than letting it load the plugin in a brwoser window) it seems to play just fine. My QT Plugin also reports being 7.0.3 ... but it can't play some files correctly that the stand alone player can. Odd. So, I'm betting that some how the plugin either isn't getting updates as the main player is, or there is some magic install order needed in windows. (maybe installing QT, iTunes, Firefox in the wrong order breaks something?) - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text
On 11/23/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably not what you're thinking of since it's not linguistics, but semiotics talk about three types of signs: icon, index and symbol. Written language belonging to the last group (arbitrary signs given value by convention). Any idea where video is in there, Andreas? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: The FCC Song
That was completely awesome! I can't believe I haven't found your feed before. I'm subscribing right now. :D Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Share [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for those of you offended by the 'f' word, please ignore thisfor anyone else who loves monty python..please please check out our newest episode...#5. i'm just so excited because i love silly humor and THIS is silly! he he. cheers. share www.rocknrolltv.net ps. the song was given away by Eric Idle on the Monty Python site, so I'm hoping this is okay. If not, then I hope he will find the humor in line with his intent. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: The FCC Song
*blushing* *my heart is tingling with joyous happiness* Thank you Susan what is it about this vlogging thing that is so warm and fuzzy? thank you for your wonderful feedback. i admit, i love that fcc song thing...but i was nervous! xoxo share www.rocknrolltv.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was completely awesome! I can't believe I haven't found your feed before. I'm subscribing right now. :D Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] small piece of history
http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/video/metv.mov This video is almost a year old. This is Peter, Jay, Kenyatta, Mica, and me at Jay's apartment in Harlem, NYC. Peter had just started Me-TV, which became MeFeedia, which was based on Kenyatta's VogBrowser, which was based on a proof-of-concept called ViPodder, which became ANT, and then subsequently FireAnt. Vloggercon happened a few weeks later. This list was still very small. Rocketboom was just getting its start, and there were some interesting people that just joined the list, like Ryanne Hodson, Michael Verdi, Chuck Olsen, and Cassius Bullemhead (Adam Quirk). There were hardly any video RSS feeds in existence other than those of our friends whom we convinced to do it one at a time. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: War On Text
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: around the 23/11/05 Lucas Gonze mentioned about Re: [videoblogging] Re: War On Text that: Any idea where video is in there, Andreas? video as most of us think of it is indexical in the first instance. An index is a sign where there is a *necessary* existential relation between the sign and the thing. Which is fancy pragmatic American philosophy (this comes from C.S. Peirce, famous US philosopher) speak for the thing the sign stands for had to be there. eg smoke as sign of fire. This is partly basis of my argument in the essay i did on blogs as a form documentary. -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html So photographs would similarly be in the set of indexical? -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Multiple cams
in the windows only world, there's a software niche called worship software. the requirements are similar to vjing. while i use a dual moniter set up split to multiple projecters and a separate multi-camera station feeding me a single input. the top programs ( about $400) support multiple video sources and three virtual moniters. you still have to pick one feed at a time although you can switch on the fly. if you choose to use a single monitor you'll need a cheat sheet or memorize your control screen( for me the added mental load cuts down on creativity). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] small piece of history
coolOn 11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/video/metv.mov This video is almost a year old. This is Peter, Jay, Kenyatta, Mica, and me at Jay's apartment in Harlem, NYC. Peter had just started Me-TV, which became MeFeedia, which was based on Kenyatta's VogBrowser, which was based on a proof-of-concept called ViPodder, which became ANT, and then subsequently FireAnt. Vloggercon happened a few weeks later. This list was still very small. Rocketboom was just getting its start, and there were some interesting people that just joined the list, like Ryanne Hodson, Michael Verdi, Chuck Olsen, and Cassius Bullemhead (Adam Quirk). There were hardly any video RSS feeds in existence other than those of our friends whom we convinced to do it one at a time. -Josh SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] small piece of history
It's interesting to see meetings and discussions of this nature with other people, and via videoOn 11/23/05, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:cool On 11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/video/metv.mov This video is almost a year old. This is Peter, Jay, Kenyatta, Mica, and me at Jay's apartment in Harlem, NYC. Peter had just started Me-TV, which became MeFeedia, which was based on Kenyatta's VogBrowser, which was based on a proof-of-concept called ViPodder, which became ANT, and then subsequently FireAnt. Vloggercon happened a few weeks later. This list was still very small. Rocketboom was just getting its start, and there were some interesting people that just joined the list, like Ryanne Hodson, Michael Verdi, Chuck Olsen, and Cassius Bullemhead (Adam Quirk). There were hardly any video RSS feeds in existence other than those of our friends whom we convinced to do it one at a time. -Josh SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Letting the AUDIENCE decide.....
:) r Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Nov 23, 2005, at 12:45 PM, robert a/k/a r wrote: Correct, and well said, Sull. R-E-S-P-E-C-T. It's also an I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y thing, impacting not only you but also the community. It's no different from failing to disclose you have a relationship with a company when you make a recommendation, when the fact comes out your audience feels duped, it's a respect failure. Bottom line: embrace the right to express opinion, respect all parties (including observers), and demand integrity. Stay beautiful everyone, keep expressing opinions and progressing the conversation. And happy Thanksgiving! cheers r On Nov 23, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: Hey. New thread, same story... because i want to point out something. The recent conversation that ended up being largely about vlogger R-E-S-P-E-C-T and all that brought up some interesting opinions. All of which is fine and dandy. What I will point out now is what I see as the power of the audience, something that is often undervalued. In the context of video content coming from videoblogs, we can all agree that their is a mix of good, bad and ugly as this is an inevitability across all content mediums throughout history and into the future. Add to that fact the uniqueness of each within an audience This gives you a swirling mix of people who contrast in what they love and hate on any given day. Sure, some people or groups of people can influence larger groups of people in what they choose to say out loud. I am not saying there is zero impact. I can be referring to Baron from rBoom or Verdi from freevlog or Jobs from APPLE. Here is why we should not get too worked up about what others say about videobloggers, negative of otherwise, and instead just let time tell the story of what the audience feels. Because the vast majority of the viewing audience of Internet Video are going to seek and find whatever it is that they like... and even that can change month to month, person to person. Someone who loves rBoom today, may get an instant headache from it 6 months later and find new interest in the personal video journal of a Mom in North Carolina or a pothead in california or a political activist or a truck driver or a cat or a religious sermon in god knows where. And vise versa. I am undermining the power of expressed opinions from people who talk about videobloggers... whether they talk it up or talk it down or talk it out of town. You cant stop this from happening it's a human thing. The great thing is, you can disagree... and hopefully that disagreement is done with respect and style. The revolution will stand, regardless. it's the new medium that deserves mass respect and awe. The fact that we can all, or at least those who are fortunate, can create and deliver... that is the core of this entire revolution. Some will participate in this revolution by trying to entertain, others will try to educate and then there is all that space in between. Do what you want, do it well, and people will watch if they care to, not if some evangelist or critc sais so. All - keep on saying what you want... it all matters. Just not as much as you may think. ;-) peace - thanks - giving -- sull Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: War On Text
around the 24/11/05 Enric mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: War On Text that: So photographs would similarly be in the set of indexical? in the time of chemical photography, yes :-) -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: War On Text
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: around the 24/11/05 Enric mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: War On Text that: So photographs would similarly be in the set of indexical? in the time of chemical photography, yes :-) -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html Then what of digital photography and cinematography? -- Enric Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] experimental
hi all for those interested in the experimental end, I've packaged up one of the prototypes I made in May so that you can play it all off your local hard drive URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/11/24/blogtalk-prototypes-popping-up-again/ has details -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] small piece of history
I like it when peter makes videos...he is so busy with mefeedia that he doesn't make any...pity...oh well I guess that is what happens when you dedicate yourself to making things for the community (josh and jay, you guys haven't posted in a while either) The question is...which do I find more beneficial...more videos or more features to the programs/services i use... On 11/23/05, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's interesting to see meetings and discussions of this nature with other people, and via video On 11/23/05, Ronen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool On 11/23/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/video/metv.mov This video is almost a year old. This is Peter, Jay, Kenyatta, Mica, and me at Jay's apartment in Harlem, NYC. Peter had just started Me-TV, which became MeFeedia, which was based on Kenyatta's VogBrowser, which was based on a proof-of-concept called ViPodder, which became ANT, and then subsequently FireAnt. Vloggercon happened a few weeks later. This list was still very small. Rocketboom was just getting its start, and there were some interesting people that just joined the list, like Ryanne Hodson, Michael Verdi, Chuck Olsen, and Cassius Bullemhead (Adam Quirk). There were hardly any video RSS feeds in existence other than those of our friends whom we convinced to do it one at a time. -Josh SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Josh Leo joshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.com wearethemedia.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] flip4mac review
Just reviewed the quite useful mac software : Flip4mac which allows wmv importing exporting from within quicktime... Worked surprisingly well, I was expecting it to be buggy, or produce low grade video... Once installed, it also allows embedded within webpage viewing of wmv files ( in safari 2, firefox 1.06 only offered wmv downloads of the same files ) review : www.skynoise.net Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Deadline for entries into WATM's Remixoff competition, 11/30/2005, 12:00 pm
You can tag them at blip.tv too TimOn 11/23/05, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can tag them in del.icio.us, in tecnorati, or just email a reporter (sidebar on the site) well find it...On 11/23/05, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok so now i know what the tag which 'tag' method do you recomment? I only found 2 videos tagged in mefeedia with it and 3 tagged in technorati? and they were different sets of videos! where are WATM collecting them from? wouldn;t want to tag mine in the wrong place! SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Josh Leojoshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comvlogcats.blogspot.com wearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- realitysandwich.typepad.comwearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
