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On 11/17/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And then I saw this. A 10 minute video that damn near had me in tears.
Do you consider them videobloggers? I do.
And since they aren't aware of THIS community, I will completely step
outside any jurisdiction
and award
On 11/17/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/17/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And for all my love of video, Ive always been to shy to say any of
these sorts of things in video, too self-concious to even have a
personal text-blog, so I spew the words here on this
Mike when you said:
...the true identity of this beast... (is)... more akin to email, IM, the
telephone... it's just personal communication that just so happens to
be public. in fact architecturally and functionally speaking it's
closest relative is this very yahoo group, but media rich.
I
Hello Marty,
On 11/17/06, Marty Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My question is...
How in the heck was this guy supposed to stand up after being tazered
for as long as he was?
When I have seen tazers used they have not been held to the person for
any length of time but they have
Is it just me or are their some urls missing in the email from scoble?
BTW, We have a complete guide to the 2006 vloggies winners on mefeedia also.
http://mefeedia.com/lists/46/
It includes direct links to the vlogs and their feeds for your convenience.
There was no officially published list
Good news, Dreamhost had backups of all our databases, even the one I
deleted (because Judy Garland told me to), and the support guy just copied
them into my directory.
My brain is fried from trying to straighten out the mess I made with
thepan.org, so I'm no longer able to rationally
On 11/18/06, T wrote:
Damn Mike you are on target tonight. That is a chilling possiblity painted
in black and white:
The threat clearly stated is this... in this future are we all just
surviellance tools of big brother?
Certainly our right to retain property of our own media is going to
Heh, one more though about community equalling walled garden.
I just wanted to clarify.
First there are non-walled garden communities.
Communities whom NOONE owns, and whom exist outside of some wenservice.
What we're talking about is the independant blogosphere.
Within it are thousands of
I'm still not fully understanding the concept behind this ourtube
group, can we discuss it some?
Is it just an attempt to take the gootube deal as an opportunity to
draw back some of the youtube users back to the open vlogosphere as
they become disenfranchised with youtube?
I've already
On 11/17/06, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the term that might be more accurately reflective is 'cultural
imperialism', but
community was substituted in light of the thinking that we view ourselves as
a community
more than a culture in most cases? I also adore how inflammatory
Well that's one question I hope to find answers to at Podcamp--- cuz this isn't
a
videoblogging issue, it's blogging, podcasting, SL, the whole nine yards.
There are many communities, agreed, it's when we think ours is the One True God
(stealing from Elizabethan times)--that's what I'm looking
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is youtube still perpetuates the idea that it's all just a
big popularity contest. This promotes the idea that it is all about
viral video, funny videos, and other 'entertainment' hiding the true
identity
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Either way, I just will cover it on my blog and you'll all find it anyway,
right? Heheh.
Yeah all my mySpace homies read Scobleizer, ohhh wait, THE blogosphere. xD
See the accidental pattern (yeah I got it was in
As an aside, Mike, the other reason I'm finding the community imperialism angle
so
fascinating, is because I'm timing how slowly a very very VERY important chain
of events
regarding intellectual property, DMCA-friendly and DRM-wanting folks (and it's
DIY
people, not the Big Boys) is barely
Or 'theirtube' if you follow the reasoning of '[YouTube] chose to be inoperable
with us'
Gotta disagree with Mike's choice of words there and use that as a prime
example... who
died and made us gods of what works or what doesn't? If we're the gods then I
want a cape
dammit. :-)
ER
--- In
How about adding some non-tech concepts there, such as, how and why to make
media
for portable devices.
The Verizon (icky)/Google deal might technically misunderstand certain things,
but the flip
side is the consumer going 'WOW videos on mah phonez! wt'
Do they give a rat's butt about
Mike, did you watch the YouTube video I posted?
If so, did you hear what they were saying? See what they were doing?
ER
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heh, one more though about community equalling walled garden.
I just wanted to clarify.
First there are
Apologies if this has been around... but it's really extremely funny
at the end. Hard to believe this was CNN...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3O1y8-hDK8E
--
Lisa Harper
lisaharper.org
LOL :-)
That part at the end is hilarious.
See ya
On 11/18/06, Lisa Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apologies if this has been around... but it's really extremely funny
at the end. Hard to believe this was CNN...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3O1y8-hDK8E
--
Lisa Harper
lisaharper.org
And you end up on my point, but it's a about Tony, baby.
Videoblogging is people.
I subscribe to people.
Many video networks have categories for all types of shows, but leave
out the 'people' category.
Look at http://network2.tv/
* All Shows
* Arts
* Business
*
Sorry - my postings been goofy lately.
XO
Jan
--
The Faux Press - better than real
http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
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Wow, that I just read like 8 responses from Eric and one from Steve.
Steve's concept, I don't subscribe to vlogs, I subscribe to people is
exactly the same thing I'm saying. Perhaps it even put it in a better
way for general understanding.
Steve says, I subscribe to people, not vlogs
Peter
I'm just sitting back and enjoying the Zune backlash.
Happy happy joy joy, the zune is a big piece of sh*t and it's failure
sure will mean a lot to the world.
I hope it succeeds just enough in rattling the iPod, but I doubt it
would, because it has NO major features that challenge the iPod.
I think my emails aren't getting through to the list, and haven't probably
been showing up for weeks.
Inadvertently subscribed to the Google Groups version of this list
and...well...that's not workin'.
Jan
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From: Jan / The Faux Press [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think ironicly this is a sign of Josh's success... the only reason
he's still in jail because he scares someone...
Who's this punk who thinks he's got rights?
Better teach him a lesson before others start to stand up for their rights too.
...of course the longer they keep him in jail, the
How's this pet project of yours catching on Steve?
Are their videos other than on Blip?
Youtube? Technoratti posts? Dabble? Delicious or anywhere?
If so... may I offer a place on mefeedia to aggregate them all into
one collection?
It'd be my honor to give you a hand.
That's what mefeedia is
I think you're better off keeping the conversation here and just
titling your posts vloggercon midwest. I would absolutely love to
attend if it's in Columbus.
I know Columbus well.
The problem is there's not enough of a critical mass in any one city
in the midwest.
Well... maybe Chicago.
We've
Just uploaded a piece to blip.
http://blip.tv/posts/?topic_name=sayittokatietopic=48360
Thanks for the opportunity to speak out, Steve.
Jan
On 11/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How's this pet project of yours catching on Steve?
Are their videos other than on Blip?
Thanks Jan!
On Nov 18, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Jan / The Faux Press wrote:
Just uploaded a piece to blip.
http://blip.tv/posts/?topic_name=sayittokatietopic=48360
Thanks for the opportunity to speak out, Steve.
Jan
--
Steve Garfield
http://SteveGarfield.com
There are some folks in the Carolinas (though not a lot) but I know
for me, the possibility of going to Ohio for Vloggercon '07 is much
more likely than the west coast! I like the idea too :)
Erin Nealey
Mom's Brag Vlog
nealey.blogspot.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on news!!! Is this
the way the news shows are these days? I have not watched news in
over 2 years. They actually seemed real in that segment.
-Lan
www.LanBui.com
On Nov 18, 2006, at 2:45 AM, Lisa Harper wrote:
Hey, I just took a look. Columbus would be about an 8 hour drive for
me from Ontario, Canada... very feasible. Drive there, pitch a tent...
Yup, works for me.
I'd like to also support the a Ohio location for vloggercon07.
Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Erin
hey mike.
rox was the motivation behind having a focused discussion on some issues
i will just link to her post and include it here. I think the OurTube
discussions, once they get going, will cover a small mix of topics
associated with taking more control, as video content creators, of
from rox:
Re: Re: [videoblogging] everyone wants you
Yes Jay - I've gotten the emails, one referencing the Vloggies. So
that is one list apparently being mined.
I am very interested in us continuing this discussion, and yes Ted,
perhaps a wiki or spinoff makes sense = not everyone is interested
Hi all,
I saw this video with a tazer and an Iranian-american student ;-(
My reflexion is : now , what can we do ?
which will be the legal continuations of this story ?
It will be great if this community could make a free service for
democraty following these story and others( Josh Wolf,
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This weekend at PodCamp West, I'm part of a discussion about Community
Imperialism in DIY
Media, because frankly, I believe the state of 'communities' is crap.
It's been a rough week, seeing everyday people invoking the
Don't bother trying to login or register at CoLab, they do not seem to
be working, but the basic services there do seem to work without
logging in.
John
1. Those of us that can need to continue to teach and educate others
about creating a simple video and how to upload it. We need to teach
others folks, not overwhelmed them, on a simple way to do this and not
give up their rights to fair compensation.
This young person and others who had a video
We could always try and talk to them. Does anyone speak YouTubish?
Mark
www.dcinput.com
On 11/18/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Hi--
Are there any videobloggers or a community in Atlanta? I'm asking
because I'm thinking of throwing a Network2 / Video on the Net party
there on or around December 6th.
Who's out there?
Drop me a line: chris at network2.tv
--Chris...
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Videoblog Community should be ALL including YouTubers, MySpacers,
people who might
not be aware of DV, RSS, etc
Possible reality: Videoblog Community = This Yahoo Group (The
Vloggies jumps right out
at me one this
Hey Gang,
Just Thought I would give you all the heads up on my new project. I have
started a West Michigan focused video blog. The videos will feature events,
businesses, people, places and everything else that has to do with my side
of the state. Take a look and let me know what you think!
The
Jay, thanks for zeroing in on this and posting the video. I think it
raises some important questions. The following are some examples:
1. Are the rights' and freedom so bragged about in the u.s. just
for the good and obedient people?
2. If a person is using a computer in a library of a public
Looks great Josh!
You weren't kidding when you told me 2 weeks at the Vloggies. I'm
subscribed.
-Rick
On 11/18/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Gang,
Just Thought I would give you all the heads up on my new project. I have
started a West Michigan focused video blog. The videos
Aha.
A really good article relating to the subject. Posted here for discussion.
From: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061116/tc_nm/rights_cameraphones_dc
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - One cell phone video shows Los Angeles police
beating a man repeatedly in the face. Another shows a handcuffed,
I just finished reading this thread with a sorta confused look on my face
for most of it
And it fitting that the last message here by Charles Hope jives with how I
feel.
This seems to be a case of over-analyzing a specific perspective of
communities who are using video to socialize, create,
Here is a map of vlogs in Georgia...
http://community.vlogmap.org/maps/regional?state=GA
Hope you find or create a local community there.
-Matt
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [chrisbrogan.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi--
Are there any videobloggers or a community in Atlanta? I'm
Hey folks,
The fight for net neutrality continues.
Check out Mike Ambs' edit of Human Lobotomy -- an excellent
documentary that summarizes the historical parallels between what
we're facing now and other corporate take-overs that restricted free
speech and communication over the last 100 years
I wanted to respond to some of your concerns. Part of the difficulty
is to separate the truth from the mythology about America. Sometimes
it is the same thing. I want to try to stay on topic about vlogging
but I need to convey this, I'll do the best I can.
7. Besides showing or viewing the
sull wrote:
This seems to be a case of over-analyzing a specific perspective of
communities who are using video to socialize, create, inform, entertain,
insult, inspire etcetera.
Wait...overanalysis of small amounts of social behavior until it looks
like peasants are storming the Bastille?
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