Re: [videoblogging] november 1
Just working on what people said here and on Twitter, we had 4 votes for 1 minute, 5 for 90 seconds (or 1-2 minutes), and 3 for no limits at all. Which means most participants didn't really have a view about length. So I say we go for 90 seconds. I think that's a good length. That way all 30 videos together would take 45 mins to watch. There were no other restrictions on dimensions, bit rate, format or location. Do what you need to do, wherever you need to do it. PS you posted this to artists in the cloud, but the discussion's been happening on the yahoo vb group, so i'll reply there. On 28-Oct-09, at 5:43 AM, Adrian Miles wrote: hi all OK, not sure of where this ended up. We've agreed to around 1minute, is that right? (or was it up to 3, or did we settle on 90 seconds...) also, any other constraints in terms of: 1. dimensions 2. bit rate 3. format 4. location one reason I ask is I'd prefer to stay QT native in a way where if transcoded the thing will break but if transcoding is fundamental then like to know :-) oh, and since I'm in Australia nov 1 comes early for me. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group - Artists in the Cloud. To post to this group, send email to artists-in-the-cl...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to artists-in-the-cloud+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud?hl=en or visit http://artistsinthecloud.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore
Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really appreciate your opinions on alternatives for hosting my videos as it relates to my requirements to keep some private and some public. Here are the details. I am developing a new site which will contain a lot of video. While I was poking around in my Blip.tv account I happened across their FAQ and saw something that I wanted to get some further information on before I started hosting hundreds of videos. I sent Blip.tv this message through their contact form: I have a Pro account and have been using it mostly for testing some video tutorials I've been making. The reason (I'm paying) for the Blip Pro account is because of the private feature and the ability to turn off embedding in the player settings. While browsing around in the Dashboard today I came across the content policy and it has me a bit worried as it may relate to my intended usage of Blips service. I hope you can clear things up and advise. My intention is to utilize my Blip account to continue to host my tutorial videos for a learning site in development. The site is named LearnWebTools and is located at http://learnwebtools.com. The site's focus will be to provide video tutorials on various web technologies. My desire is for some of these videos to only be available on this site (ones marked as private), and some to be available to through the show page (ones marked as public) and to take advantage of your video distribution service. I am looking for verification from Blip as to whether or not my intended usage constitutes a show in Blip's terms and if not, what steps I would need to take to become compliant. The first reply from Blip Support: Thanks for reaching out. We are a free platform, provided your content meets our terms of service. We are not a good solution for marketing or commercial videos. See our Terms of Service: Prohibited Content section, fourth bullet. You can read this at http://www.blip.tv/tos It looks like you have a really interesting business, and I hope you find a good match for a service provider. Best to you in your endeavors! ***Fourth Bullet of the tos says this*** Content that has as its sole or primary purpose to advertise a particular product or service that, in the sole judgment of Blip.tv, does not otherwise have redeeming value to the community. Blip.tv may allow the uploading of some such content for a fee, at its sole discretion. Such advertising content may be treated differently than other content (i.e. through indications that it is an advertisement, or exclusion from some indices or searches). I replied with this: I'm not sure I was clear on my intent. My intent is to create a show that showcases my video tutorials. It wouldn't be a show in terms of actors and such, more of a helpful Reality show. It is not to market commercial videos. I was asking if this would be considered a show under the Blip tos? I really do hope I can continue to use the Blip.tv service. ...and received this response: We're not a good solution for screencasts. If it is determined a tutorial is meant as advertisement for a product the account would be removed. Is it just me, or am I being misunderstood by this support person? If you do a simple search for tutorials or better yet screencasts, you will see many examples of tutorial screencast shows. Maybe the issue is that I actually asked permission? I'm just so disappointed. I plan to reply to the latest response with some further questioning (and perhaps begging), or maybe someone from Blip will see this and chime in (Mike do you still read these threads?) I welcome your thoughts everyone, and if I'm just plain wrong in my thinking that I should be able to continue using Blip, then so be it. I'll start looking for alternative ways to host my videos. Maybe I should go with the FlowPlayer route and just host my own? Sincerely, Adam W. Warner http://LearnWebTools.com http://WordPressModder.org My Recommended Web Hosting [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore
Adam Where can I see some of the video tutorials? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:24:09 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really appreciate your opinions on alternatives for hosting my videos as it relates to my requirements to keep some private and some public. Here are the details. I am developing a new site which will contain a lot of video. While I was poking around in my Blip.tv account I happened across their FAQ and saw something that I wanted to get some further information on before I started hosting hundreds of videos. I sent Blip.tv this message through their contact form: I have a Pro account and have been using it mostly for testing some video tutorials I've been making. The reason (I'm paying) for the Blip Pro account is because of the private feature and the ability to turn off embedding in the player settings. While browsing around in the Dashboard today I came across the content policy and it has me a bit worried as it may relate to my intended usage of Blips service. I hope you can clear things up and advise. My intention is to utilize my Blip account to continue to host my tutorial videos for a learning site in development. The site is named LearnWebTools and is located at http://learnwebtools.com. The site's focus will be to provide video tutorials on various web technologies. My desire is for some of these videos to only be available on this site (ones marked as private), and some to be available to through the show page (ones marked as public) and to take advantage of your video distribution service. I am looking for verification from Blip as to whether or not my intended usage constitutes a show in Blip's terms and if not, what steps I would need to take to become compliant. The first reply from Blip Support: Thanks for reaching out. We are a free platform, provided your content meets our terms of service. We are not a good solution for marketing or commercial videos. See our Terms of Service: Prohibited Content section, fourth bullet. You can read this at http://www.blip.tv/tos It looks like you have a really interesting business, and I hope you find a good match for a service provider. Best to you in your endeavors! ***Fourth Bullet of the tos says this*** Content that has as its sole or primary purpose to advertise a particular product or service that, in the sole judgment of Blip.tv, does not otherwise have redeeming value to the community. Blip.tv may allow the uploading of some such content for a fee, at its sole discretion. Such advertising content may be treated differently than other content (i.e. through indications that it is an advertisement, or exclusion from some indices or searches). I replied with this: I'm not sure I was clear on my intent. My intent is to create a show that showcases my video tutorials. It wouldn't be a show in terms of actors and such, more of a helpful Reality show. It is not to market commercial videos. I was asking if this would be considered a show under the Blip tos? I really do hope I can continue to use the Blip.tv service. ...and received this response: We're not a good solution for screencasts. If it is determined a tutorial is meant as advertisement for a product the account would be removed. Is it just me, or am I being misunderstood by this support person? If you do a simple search for tutorials or better yet screencasts, you will see many examples of tutorial screencast shows. Maybe the issue is that I actually asked permission? I'm just so disappointed. I plan to reply to the latest response with some further questioning (and perhaps begging), or maybe someone from Blip will see this and chime in (Mike do you still read these threads?) I welcome your thoughts everyone, and if I'm just plain wrong in my thinking that I should be able to continue using Blip, then so be it. I'll start looking for alternative ways to host my videos. Maybe I should go with the FlowPlayer route and just host my own? Sincerely, Adam W. Warner http://LearnWebTools.com http://WordPressModder.org My Recommended Web Hosting [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore
Sorry, I should have included that in the original email. As I said, I'm still experimenting with presentation/quality etc., but these show the basic format. http://wordpressmodder.org/how-to-add-a-sticky-post-to-a-wordpress-category-archive-page-719.html http://wordpressmodder.org/secondary-html-content-plugin-video-overview-728.html Sincerely, Adam W. Warner http://LearnWebTools.com http://WordPressModder.org My Recommended Web Hosting From: mich...@rosenblumtv.com mich...@rosenblumtv.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 9:38:48 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore Adam Where can I see some of the video tutorials? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:24:09 To: videoblogging@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really appreciate your opinions on alternatives for hosting my videos as it relates to my requirements to keep some private and some public. Here are the details. I am developing a new site which will contain a lot of video. While I was poking around in my Blip.tv account I happened across their FAQ and saw something that I wanted to get some further information on before I started hosting hundreds of videos. I sent Blip.tv this message through their contact form: I have a Pro account and have been using it mostly for testing some video tutorials I've been making. The reason (I'm paying) for the Blip Pro account is because of the private feature and the ability to turn off embedding in the player settings. While browsing around in the Dashboard today I came across the content policy and it has me a bit worried as it may relate to my intended usage of Blips service. I hope you can clear things up and advise. My intention is to utilize my Blip account to continue to host my tutorial videos for a learning site in development. The site is named LearnWebTools and is located at http://learnwebtools.com. The site's focus will be to provide video tutorials on various web technologies. My desire is for some of these videos to only be available on this site (ones marked as private), and some to be available to through the show page (ones marked as public) and to take advantage of your video distribution service. I am looking for verification from Blip as to whether or not my intended usage constitutes a show in Blip's terms and if not, what steps I would need to take to become compliant. The first reply from Blip Support: Thanks for reaching out. We are a free platform, provided your content meets our terms of service. We are not a good solution for marketing or commercial videos. See our Terms of Service: Prohibited Content section, fourth bullet. You can read this at http://www.blip. tv/tos It looks like you have a really interesting business, and I hope you find a good match for a service provider. Best to you in your endeavors! ***Fourth Bullet of the tos says this*** Content that has as its sole or primary purpose to advertise a particular product or service that, in the sole judgment of Blip.tv, does not otherwise have redeeming value to the community. Blip.tv may allow the uploading of some such content for a fee, at its sole discretion. Such advertising content may be treated differently than other content (i.e. through indications that it is an advertisement, or exclusion from some indices or searches). I replied with this: I'm not sure I was clear on my intent. My intent is to create a show that showcases my video tutorials. It wouldn't be a show in terms of actors and such, more of a helpful Reality show. It is not to market commercial videos. I was asking if this would be considered a show under the Blip tos? I really do hope I can continue to use the Blip.tv service. ...and received this response: We're not a good solution for screencasts. If it is determined a tutorial is meant as advertisement for a product the account would be removed. Is it just me, or am I being misunderstood by this support person? If you do a simple search for tutorials or better yet screencasts , you will see many examples of tutorial screencast shows. Maybe the issue is that I actually asked permission? I'm just so disappointed. I plan to reply to the latest response with some further questioning (and perhaps begging), or maybe someone from Blip will see this and chime in
[videoblogging] Re: november 1
Are the the 90 seconds a top limit? Can I make less? Miguel. Just working on what people said here and on Twitter, we had 4 votes for 1 minute, 5 for 90 seconds (or 1-2 minutes), and 3 for no limits at all. Which means most participants didn't really have a view about length. So I say we go for 90 seconds. I think that's a good length. That way all 30 videos together would take 45 mins to watch. There were no other restrictions on dimensions, bit rate, format or location. Do what you need to do, wherever you need to do it. PS you posted this to artists in the cloud, but the discussion's been happening on the yahoo vb group, so i'll reply there. On 28-Oct-09, at 5:43 AM, Adrian Miles wrote: hi all OK, not sure of where this ended up. We've agreed to around 1minute, is that right? (or was it up to 3, or did we settle on 90 seconds...) also, any other constraints in terms of: 1. dimensions 2. bit rate 3. format 4. location one reason I ask is I'd prefer to stay QT native in a way where if transcoded the thing will break but if transcoding is fundamental then like to know :-) oh, and since I'm in Australia nov 1 comes early for me. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@... Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group - Artists in the Cloud. To post to this group, send email to artists-in-the-cl...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to artists-in-the-cloud+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud?hl=en or visit http://artistsinthecloud.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore
Adam Interesting. Take a look at www.nyvs.com If you find it of interest, get in touch with me. mich...@rosenblumtv.com Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:46:08 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore Sorry, I should have included that in the original email. As I said, I'm still experimenting with presentation/quality etc., but these show the basic format. http://wordpressmodder.org/how-to-add-a-sticky-post-to-a-wordpress-category-archive-page-719.html http://wordpressmodder.org/secondary-html-content-plugin-video-overview-728.html Sincerely, Adam W. Warner http://LearnWebTools.com http://WordPressModder.org My Recommended Web Hosting From: mich...@rosenblumtv.com mich...@rosenblumtv.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 9:38:48 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore Adam Where can I see some of the video tutorials? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:24:09 To: videoblogging@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really appreciate your opinions on alternatives for hosting my videos as it relates to my requirements to keep some private and some public. Here are the details. I am developing a new site which will contain a lot of video. While I was poking around in my Blip.tv account I happened across their FAQ and saw something that I wanted to get some further information on before I started hosting hundreds of videos. I sent Blip.tv this message through their contact form: I have a Pro account and have been using it mostly for testing some video tutorials I've been making. The reason (I'm paying) for the Blip Pro account is because of the private feature and the ability to turn off embedding in the player settings. While browsing around in the Dashboard today I came across the content policy and it has me a bit worried as it may relate to my intended usage of Blips service. I hope you can clear things up and advise. My intention is to utilize my Blip account to continue to host my tutorial videos for a learning site in development. The site is named LearnWebTools and is located at http://learnwebtools.com. The site's focus will be to provide video tutorials on various web technologies. My desire is for some of these videos to only be available on this site (ones marked as private), and some to be available to through the show page (ones marked as public) and to take advantage of your video distribution service. I am looking for verification from Blip as to whether or not my intended usage constitutes a show in Blip's terms and if not, what steps I would need to take to become compliant. The first reply from Blip Support: Thanks for reaching out. We are a free platform, provided your content meets our terms of service. We are not a good solution for marketing or commercial videos. See our Terms of Service: Prohibited Content section, fourth bullet. You can read this at http://www.blip. tv/tos It looks like you have a really interesting business, and I hope you find a good match for a service provider. Best to you in your endeavors! ***Fourth Bullet of the tos says this*** Content that has as its sole or primary purpose to advertise a particular product or service that, in the sole judgment of Blip.tv, does not otherwise have redeeming value to the community. Blip.tv may allow the uploading of some such content for a fee, at its sole discretion. Such advertising content may be treated differently than other content (i.e. through indications that it is an advertisement, or exclusion from some indices or searches). I replied with this: I'm not sure I was clear on my intent. My intent is to create a show that showcases my video tutorials. It wouldn't be a show in terms of actors and such, more of a helpful Reality show. It is not to market commercial videos. I was asking if this would be considered a show under the Blip tos? I really do hope I can continue to use the Blip.tv service. ...and received this response: We're not a good solution for screencasts. If it is determined a tutorial is meant as advertisement for a product the account would be removed. Is it just me, or am I being
Re: [videoblogging] Re: november 1
Yes. On 28-Oct-09, at 1:48 PM, miglsd27 wrote: Are the the 90 seconds a top limit? Can I make less? Miguel. Just working on what people said here and on Twitter, we had 4 votes for 1 minute, 5 for 90 seconds (or 1-2 minutes), and 3 for no limits at all. Which means most participants didn't really have a view about length. So I say we go for 90 seconds. I think that's a good length. That way all 30 videos together would take 45 mins to watch. There were no other restrictions on dimensions, bit rate, format or location. Do what you need to do, wherever you need to do it. PS you posted this to artists in the cloud, but the discussion's been happening on the yahoo vb group, so i'll reply there. On 28-Oct-09, at 5:43 AM, Adrian Miles wrote: hi all OK, not sure of where this ended up. We've agreed to around 1minute, is that right? (or was it up to 3, or did we settle on 90 seconds...) also, any other constraints in terms of: 1. dimensions 2. bit rate 3. format 4. location one reason I ask is I'd prefer to stay QT native in a way where if transcoded the thing will break but if transcoding is fundamental then like to know :-) oh, and since I'm in Australia nov 1 comes early for me. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@... Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group - Artists in the Cloud. To post to this group, send email to artists-in-the-cl...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to artists-in-the-cloud+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud?hl=en or visit http://artistsinthecloud.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: november 1
If you round it out to 100 seconds it would dovetail into an ongoing project that could use a shot in the arm. http://100seconds.org/ On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Yes. On 28-Oct-09, at 1:48 PM, miglsd27 wrote: Are the the 90 seconds a top limit? Can I make less? Miguel. Just working on what people said here and on Twitter, we had 4 votes for 1 minute, 5 for 90 seconds (or 1-2 minutes), and 3 for no limits at all. Which means most participants didn't really have a view about length. So I say we go for 90 seconds. I think that's a good length. That way all 30 videos together would take 45 mins to watch. There were no other restrictions on dimensions, bit rate, format or location. Do what you need to do, wherever you need to do it. PS you posted this to artists in the cloud, but the discussion's been happening on the yahoo vb group, so i'll reply there. On 28-Oct-09, at 5:43 AM, Adrian Miles wrote: hi all OK, not sure of where this ended up. We've agreed to around 1minute, is that right? (or was it up to 3, or did we settle on 90 seconds...) also, any other constraints in terms of: 1. dimensions 2. bit rate 3. format 4. location one reason I ask is I'd prefer to stay QT native in a way where if transcoded the thing will break but if transcoding is fundamental then like to know :-) oh, and since I'm in Australia nov 1 comes early for me. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@... Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group - Artists in the Cloud. To post to this group, send email to artists-in-the-cl...@googlegroups.comartists-in-the-cloud%40googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to artists-in-the-cloud+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comartists-in-the-cloud%2Bunsubscribe%40googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud?hl=en or visit http://artistsinthecloud.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore
Seems to me that you're being misunderstood. The weird thing is that it seems almost deliberate. It reads like their stock position is that if anybody asks whether something they're doing breaches the ToS, they should err on the side of caution in their response and just say No. My personal reading of what you're doing is that it's fine under their ToS, but it's a bit depressing to see this kind of response from them, that doesn't seem to be trying to help you out or understand what it is that you're trying to do. Especially when they used to handle all support requests more quickly and positively than anyone else. I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. But perhaps the weight of HD content being uploaded to their servers, which they have to transcode and stream out, is costing them too much to be worth it. And I guess videoblogs and marketing and commercial videos often opt out of advertising, therefore don't make Blip any money. I know Vimeo banned videogame screencasts because they were costing too much in terms of processing time and bandwidth. Perhaps that's why Blip say We are not a good solution for screencasts - even though they're actually a great solution for your kind of screencasts. So. Add some post-roll adverts onto your videos, make them some money, and see how keen they are to nuke your account after that ;) Rupert On 28-Oct-09, at 1:24 PM, Adam Warner wrote: Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really appreciate your opinions on alternatives for hosting my videos as it relates to my requirements to keep some private and some public. Here are the details. I am developing a new site which will contain a lot of video. While I was poking around in my Blip.tv account I happened across their FAQ and saw something that I wanted to get some further information on before I started hosting hundreds of videos. I sent Blip.tv this message through their contact form: I have a Pro account and have been using it mostly for testing some video tutorials I've been making. The reason (I'm paying) for the Blip Pro account is because of the private feature and the ability to turn off embedding in the player settings. While browsing around in the Dashboard today I came across the content policy and it has me a bit worried as it may relate to my intended usage of Blips service. I hope you can clear things up and advise. My intention is to utilize my Blip account to continue to host my tutorial videos for a learning site in development. The site is named LearnWebTools and is located at http://learnwebtools.com. The site's focus will be to provide video tutorials on various web technologies. My desire is for some of these videos to only be available on this site (ones marked as private), and some to be available to through the show page (ones marked as public) and to take advantage of your video distribution service. I am looking for verification from Blip as to whether or not my intended usage constitutes a show in Blip's terms and if not, what steps I would need to take to become compliant. The first reply from Blip Support: Thanks for reaching out. We are a free platform, provided your content meets our terms of service. We are not a good solution for marketing or commercial videos. See our Terms of Service: Prohibited Content section, fourth bullet. You can read this at http://www.blip.tv/tos It looks like you have a really interesting business, and I hope you find a good match for a service provider. Best to you in your endeavors! ***Fourth Bullet of the tos says this*** Content that has as its sole or primary purpose to advertise a particular product or service that, in the sole judgment of Blip.tv, does not otherwise have redeeming value to the community. Blip.tv may allow the uploading of some such content for a fee, at its sole discretion. Such advertising content may be treated differently than other content (i.e. through indications that it is an advertisement,
Re: [videoblogging] Re: november 1
Oh my god, *now* you suggest this, just as we've decided?! ;) 90 seconds videos would still qualify under your rules, though, wouldn't they? On 28-Oct-09, at 2:40 PM, Jason Daniels wrote: If you round it out to 100 seconds it would dovetail into an ongoing project that could use a shot in the arm. http://100seconds.org/ On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Yes. On 28-Oct-09, at 1:48 PM, miglsd27 wrote: Are the the 90 seconds a top limit? Can I make less? Miguel. Just working on what people said here and on Twitter, we had 4 votes for 1 minute, 5 for 90 seconds (or 1-2 minutes), and 3 for no limits at all. Which means most participants didn't really have a view about length. So I say we go for 90 seconds. I think that's a good length. That way all 30 videos together would take 45 mins to watch. There were no other restrictions on dimensions, bit rate, format or location. Do what you need to do, wherever you need to do it. PS you posted this to artists in the cloud, but the discussion's been happening on the yahoo vb group, so i'll reply there. On 28-Oct-09, at 5:43 AM, Adrian Miles wrote: hi all OK, not sure of where this ended up. We've agreed to around 1minute, is that right? (or was it up to 3, or did we settle on 90 seconds...) also, any other constraints in terms of: 1. dimensions 2. bit rate 3. format 4. location one reason I ask is I'd prefer to stay QT native in a way where if transcoded the thing will break but if transcoding is fundamental then like to know :-) oh, and since I'm in Australia nov 1 comes early for me. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@... Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group - Artists in the Cloud. To post to this group, send email to artists-in-the-cl...@googlegroups.comartists-in-the-cloud %40googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to artists-in-the-cloud+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comartists-in- the-cloud%2Bunsubscribe%40googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud?hl=en or visit http://artistsinthecloud.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore
Hi Rupert, Thanks for your reply and sharing your knowledge. You make many good points. I do have advertising turned on in my videos but did just realize that one was set as Private and therefore didn't display the ads. I've changed that video to Public and now the ads are showing. I am hoping for a positive response from Blip as confirmation for me to continue. Sincerely, Adam W. Warner http://LearnWebTools.com http://WordPressModder.org My Recommended Web Hosting From: Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 10:51:56 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore Seems to me that you're being misunderstood. The weird thing is that it seems almost deliberate. It reads like their stock position is that if anybody asks whether something they're doing breaches the ToS, they should err on the side of caution in their response and just say No. My personal reading of what you're doing is that it's fine under their ToS, but it's a bit depressing to see this kind of response from them, that doesn't seem to be trying to help you out or understand what it is that you're trying to do. Especially when they used to handle all support requests more quickly and positively than anyone else. I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. But perhaps the weight of HD content being uploaded to their servers, which they have to transcode and stream out, is costing them too much to be worth it. And I guess videoblogs and marketing and commercial videos often opt out of advertising, therefore don't make Blip any money. I know Vimeo banned videogame screencasts because they were costing too much in terms of processing time and bandwidth. Perhaps that's why Blip say We are not a good solution for screencasts - even though they're actually a great solution for your kind of screencasts. So. Add some post-roll adverts onto your videos, make them some money, and see how keen they are to nuke your account after that ;) Rupert On 28-Oct-09, at 1:24 PM, Adam Warner wrote: Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really appreciate your opinions on alternatives for hosting my videos as it relates to my requirements to keep some private and some public. Here are the details. I am developing a new site which will contain a lot of video. While I was poking around in my Blip.tv account I happened across their FAQ and saw something that I wanted to get some further information on before I started hosting hundreds of videos. I sent Blip.tv this message through their contact form: I have a Pro account and have been using it mostly for testing some video tutorials I've been making. The reason (I'm paying) for the Blip Pro account is because of the private feature and the ability to turn off embedding in the player settings. While browsing around in the Dashboard today I came across the content policy and it has me a bit worried as it may relate to my intended usage of Blips service. I hope you can clear things up and advise. My intention is to utilize my Blip account to continue to host my tutorial videos for a learning site in development. The site is named LearnWebTools and is located at http://learnwebtools.com. The site's focus will be to provide video tutorials on various web technologies. My desire is for some of these videos to only be available on this site (ones marked as private), and some to be available to through the show page (ones marked as public) and to take advantage of your video distribution service. I am looking for verification from Blip as to whether or not my intended usage constitutes a show in Blip's terms and if not, what steps I would need to take to become compliant. The first reply from Blip Support: Thanks for reaching out. We are a free platform, provided your content meets our terms of service. We are not a good solution for marketing or
Re: [videoblogging] Re: november 1
Just to be clear, re-reading this - I didn't mean to sound properly exasperated. Was laughing. I do like the whole concept of the 100seconds film festival - should have said this. It's an outlet that a lot of us could submit videos to. But the 90 seconds videos would still qualify for the festival, wouldn't they? On 28-Oct-09, at 3:11 PM, Rupert Howe wrote: Oh my god, *now* you suggest this, just as we've decided?! ;) 90 seconds videos would still qualify under your rules, though, wouldn't they? On 28-Oct-09, at 2:40 PM, Jason Daniels wrote: If you round it out to 100 seconds it would dovetail into an ongoing project that could use a shot in the arm. http://100seconds.org/ On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Yes. On 28-Oct-09, at 1:48 PM, miglsd27 wrote: Are the the 90 seconds a top limit? Can I make less? Miguel. Just working on what people said here and on Twitter, we had 4 votes for 1 minute, 5 for 90 seconds (or 1-2 minutes), and 3 for no limits at all. Which means most participants didn't really have a view about length. So I say we go for 90 seconds. I think that's a good length. That way all 30 videos together would take 45 mins to watch. There were no other restrictions on dimensions, bit rate, format or location. Do what you need to do, wherever you need to do it. PS you posted this to artists in the cloud, but the discussion's been happening on the yahoo vb group, so i'll reply there. On 28-Oct-09, at 5:43 AM, Adrian Miles wrote: hi all OK, not sure of where this ended up. We've agreed to around 1minute, is that right? (or was it up to 3, or did we settle on 90 seconds...) also, any other constraints in terms of: 1. dimensions 2. bit rate 3. format 4. location one reason I ask is I'd prefer to stay QT native in a way where if transcoded the thing will break but if transcoding is fundamental then like to know :-) oh, and since I'm in Australia nov 1 comes early for me. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@... Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group - Artists in the Cloud. To post to this group, send email to artists-in-the-cl...@googlegroups.comartists-in-the-cloud %40googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to artists-in-the-cloud+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comartists- in- the-cloud%2Bunsubscribe%40googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud?hl=en or visit http://artistsinthecloud.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: november 1 ( no time limit)
I think the original idea is to participate ..it doesnt matter time limits...fuck them...just make your video in the way you want and like and acknowledge your presence to the world...just be sure to be there everyday or whenever you can do it-during November... no rules...just your will to be a passionated videoblogger and DO IT !!! peace John Dkar http://twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms http://twitwall.com/JohnDkarFilms http://www.facebook.com/johndkarfilms http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: From: Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: november 1 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 11:47 AM Just to be clear, re-reading this - I didn't mean to sound properly exasperated. Was laughing. I do like the whole concept of the 100seconds film festival - should have said this. It's an outlet that a lot of us could submit videos to. But the 90 seconds videos would still qualify for the festival, wouldn't they? On 28-Oct-09, at 3:11 PM, Rupert Howe wrote: Oh my god, *now* you suggest this, just as we've decided?! ;) 90 seconds videos would still qualify under your rules, though, wouldn't they? On 28-Oct-09, at 2:40 PM, Jason Daniels wrote: If you round it out to 100 seconds it would dovetail into an ongoing project that could use a shot in the arm. http://100seconds. org/ On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog. tv wrote: Yes. On 28-Oct-09, at 1:48 PM, miglsd27 wrote: Are the the 90 seconds a top limit? Can I make less? Miguel. Just working on what people said here and on Twitter, we had 4 votes for 1 minute, 5 for 90 seconds (or 1-2 minutes), and 3 for no limits at all. Which means most participants didn't really have a view about length. So I say we go for 90 seconds. I think that's a good length. That way all 30 videos together would take 45 mins to watch. There were no other restrictions on dimensions, bit rate, format or location. Do what you need to do, wherever you need to do it. PS you posted this to artists in the cloud, but the discussion's been happening on the yahoo vb group, so i'll reply there. On 28-Oct-09, at 5:43 AM, Adrian Miles wrote: hi all OK, not sure of where this ended up. We've agreed to around 1minute, is that right? (or was it up to 3, or did we settle on 90 seconds...) also, any other constraints in terms of: 1. dimensions 2. bit rate 3. format 4. location one reason I ask is I'd prefer to stay QT native in a way where if transcoded the thing will break but if transcoding is fundamental then like to know :-) oh, and since I'm in Australia nov 1 comes early for me. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.miles@ ... Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au --~--~-- ---~--~-- --~-- --~-- -~--~ ~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group - Artists in the Cloud. To post to this group, send email to artists-in-the- cl...@googlegrou ps.comartists-in- the-cloud %40googlegroups. com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to artists-in-the- cloud+unsubscrib e...@googlegroups. comartists- in- the-cloud%2Bunsubsc ribe%40googlegro ups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups. google.com/ group/artists- in-the-cloud? hl=en or visit http://artistsinthe cloud.com -~-- ~~--- -~~-- ~ ~--~- -~--- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: november 1 ( no time limit)
Sure. This thread was about the parameters for the other 30 day game, not the full NaVloPoMo. If you're doing a video every day in November for NaVloPoMo - go for it, do whatever you want! On 28-Oct-09, at 5:13 PM, John Cardenas wrote: I think the original idea is to participate ..it doesnt matter time limits...fuck them...just make your video in the way you want and like and acknowledge your presence to the world...just be sure to be there everyday or whenever you can do it-during November... no rules...just your will to be a passionated videoblogger and DO IT !!! peace John Dkar http://twitter.com/JohnDkarFilms http://twitwall.com/JohnDkarFilms http://www.facebook.com/johndkarfilms http://www.youtube.com/JohnDkar --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: From: Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: november 1 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 11:47 AM Just to be clear, re-reading this - I didn't mean to sound properly exasperated. Was laughing. I do like the whole concept of the 100seconds film festival - should have said this. It's an outlet that a lot of us could submit videos to. But the 90 seconds videos would still qualify for the festival, wouldn't they? On 28-Oct-09, at 3:11 PM, Rupert Howe wrote: Oh my god, *now* you suggest this, just as we've decided?! ;) 90 seconds videos would still qualify under your rules, though, wouldn't they? On 28-Oct-09, at 2:40 PM, Jason Daniels wrote: If you round it out to 100 seconds it would dovetail into an ongoing project that could use a shot in the arm. http://100seconds. org/ On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog. tv wrote: Yes. On 28-Oct-09, at 1:48 PM, miglsd27 wrote: Are the the 90 seconds a top limit? Can I make less? Miguel. Just working on what people said here and on Twitter, we had 4 votes for 1 minute, 5 for 90 seconds (or 1-2 minutes), and 3 for no limits at all. Which means most participants didn't really have a view about length. So I say we go for 90 seconds. I think that's a good length. That way all 30 videos together would take 45 mins to watch. There were no other restrictions on dimensions, bit rate, format or location. Do what you need to do, wherever you need to do it. PS you posted this to artists in the cloud, but the discussion's been happening on the yahoo vb group, so i'll reply there. On 28-Oct-09, at 5:43 AM, Adrian Miles wrote: hi all OK, not sure of where this ended up. We've agreed to around 1minute, is that right? (or was it up to 3, or did we settle on 90 seconds...) also, any other constraints in terms of: 1. dimensions 2. bit rate 3. format 4. location one reason I ask is I'd prefer to stay QT native in a way where if transcoded the thing will break but if transcoding is fundamental then like to know :-) oh, and since I'm in Australia nov 1 comes early for me. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.miles@ ... Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au --~--~-- ---~--~-- --~-- --~-- -~--~ ~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group - Artists in the Cloud. To post to this group, send email to artists-in-the- cl...@googlegrou ps.comartists-in- the- cloud %40googlegroups. com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to artists-in-the- cloud+unsubscrib e...@googlegroups. comartists- in- the-cloud%2Bunsubsc ribe%40googlegro ups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups. google.com/ group/artists- in-the-cloud? hl=en or visit http://artistsinthe cloud.com -~-- ~~--- -~~-- ~ ~--~- -~--- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Advertising and personal vlogs : Was, Blip doesn't love me anymore?
I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. It's funny you should bring this up, as I have been wondering for a while now, what the future of the type of video blogging I do is. When I say I, I mean people who shoot mainly personal video's and don't have the ad's set to on. All these video hosting sites need to find a way to make money, charging for HD content is one (Google doesn't count as they have more money than the whole world and YT probably doesn't cost them anything, contray to some reports), limiting what you can upload and adding advertisments. Now at one time adding advertisments to any personal vlog would cause a massive flame war here with anyone who suggested that advertisments were not all bad, that person would forever be branded a heritic and cast out..Butif Blip doesn't make any money, then...bye, bye video's... So...what to do? Allow advererts? Or just hope that blip never goes away? Self host? (which may or may not be an issue) I mean long gone are the days when you could see a Josh Leo or Paul or a Steve or just a personal vlogger on Blip's homepage or showcase pages..It is about being a desitantion for shows on the web Which is fine, I mean they need to make money like anyone else and they are still the most creater friendly group I know of...this is not a bash of blip but more of a question of where do we go from here? thing... It's a very real possiblity that the only free game in town someday will be YT This email is a little all over the place but hopefully the main point is coming across...will the little guy eventually get shut out? Will it just be a small little market with a handfull of us just making personal vid's because we can? I'm going to be in NY tomorrow and Friday, maybe I should just drop by blip and ask them? lol Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: Seems to me that you're being misunderstood. The weird thing is that it seems almost deliberate. It reads like their stock position is that if anybody asks whether something they're doing breaches the ToS, they should err on the side of caution in their response and just say No. My personal reading of what you're doing is that it's fine under their ToS, but it's a bit depressing to see this kind of response from them, that doesn't seem to be trying to help you out or understand what it is that you're trying to do. Especially when they used to handle all support requests more quickly and positively than anyone else. I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. But perhaps the weight of HD content being uploaded to their servers, which they have to transcode and stream out, is costing them too much to be worth it. And I guess videoblogs and marketing and commercial videos often opt out of advertising, therefore don't make Blip any money. I know Vimeo banned videogame screencasts because they were costing too much in terms of processing time and bandwidth. Perhaps that's why Blip say We are not a good solution for screencasts - even though they're actually a great solution for your kind of screencasts. So. Add some post-roll adverts onto your videos, make them some money, and see how keen they are to nuke your account after that ;) Rupert On 28-Oct-09, at 1:24 PM, Adam Warner wrote: Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really
Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore
SInce you are a WordPress guy, why not try using VideoPress? On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Adam Warner awarne...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Rupert, Thanks for your reply and sharing your knowledge. You make many good points. I do have advertising turned on in my videos but did just realize that one was set as Private and therefore didn't display the ads. I've changed that video to Public and now the ads are showing. I am hoping for a positive response from Blip as confirmation for me to continue. Sincerely, Adam W. Warner http://LearnWebTools.com http://WordPressModder.org My Recommended Web Hosting From: Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv rupert%40twittervlog.tv To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 10:51:56 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore Seems to me that you're being misunderstood. The weird thing is that it seems almost deliberate. It reads like their stock position is that if anybody asks whether something they're doing breaches the ToS, they should err on the side of caution in their response and just say No. My personal reading of what you're doing is that it's fine under their ToS, but it's a bit depressing to see this kind of response from them, that doesn't seem to be trying to help you out or understand what it is that you're trying to do. Especially when they used to handle all support requests more quickly and positively than anyone else. I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. But perhaps the weight of HD content being uploaded to their servers, which they have to transcode and stream out, is costing them too much to be worth it. And I guess videoblogs and marketing and commercial videos often opt out of advertising, therefore don't make Blip any money. I know Vimeo banned videogame screencasts because they were costing too much in terms of processing time and bandwidth. Perhaps that's why Blip say We are not a good solution for screencasts - even though they're actually a great solution for your kind of screencasts. So. Add some post-roll adverts onto your videos, make them some money, and see how keen they are to nuke your account after that ;) Rupert On 28-Oct-09, at 1:24 PM, Adam Warner wrote: Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really appreciate your opinions on alternatives for hosting my videos as it relates to my requirements to keep some private and some public. Here are the details. I am developing a new site which will contain a lot of video. While I was poking around in my Blip.tv account I happened across their FAQ and saw something that I wanted to get some further information on before I started hosting hundreds of videos. I sent Blip.tv this message through their contact form: I have a Pro account and have been using it mostly for testing some video tutorials I've been making. The reason (I'm paying) for the Blip Pro account is because of the private feature and the ability to turn off embedding in the player settings. While browsing around in the Dashboard today I came across the content policy and it has me a bit worried as it may relate to my intended usage of Blips service. I hope you can clear things up and advise. My intention is to utilize my Blip account to continue to host my tutorial videos for a learning site in development. The site is named LearnWebTools and is located at http://learnwebtools.com. The site's focus will be to provide video tutorials on various web technologies. My desire is for some of these videos to only be available on this site (ones marked as private), and some to be available to through the show page (ones marked as public) and to take advantage of your video distribution service. I am looking for verification from Blip as to whether or not my intended usage constitutes a show in Blip's terms and if not, what steps I would need to
Re: [videoblogging] Advertising and personal vlogs : Was, Blip doesn't love me anymore?
Seems like the 80/20 rule will likely apply here. 20% of the content should have enough viewers and ad revenues to subsidize the rest of us little guys. Not that I'm looking to free load. I use Blip not only because it's free, but because it has cool features that YouTube can't match. However, my stuff is more of a hodge podge of personal videoblogging, educational stuff, etc, not a dedicated show with a script, theme, episodes, etc. Just out of curiosity, I wonder what the average viewer number is for some of the big shows? And by the same token, what sort of revenue that brings in. And, at the same time, how many people subscribe or regularly watch episodes of a show. From everything I have read, web video viewers are a fickle bunch. You'd have to have something special to keep serving up ads to the same viewers over and over again. -- Chad F. Boeninger libraryvoice.com - blog libraryvoice.com/videos - videoblog twitter.com/cfboeninger On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:12 PM, hpbatman7 heathpa...@msn.com wrote: I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. It's funny you should bring this up, as I have been wondering for a while now, what the future of the type of video blogging I do is. When I say I, I mean people who shoot mainly personal video's and don't have the ad's set to on. All these video hosting sites need to find a way to make money, charging for HD content is one (Google doesn't count as they have more money than the whole world and YT probably doesn't cost them anything, contray to some reports), limiting what you can upload and adding advertisments. Now at one time adding advertisments to any personal vlog would cause a massive flame war here with anyone who suggested that advertisments were not all bad, that person would forever be branded a heritic and cast out..Butif Blip doesn't make any money, then...bye, bye video's... So...what to do? Allow advererts? Or just hope that blip never goes away? Self host? (which may or may not be an issue) I mean long gone are the days when you could see a Josh Leo or Paul or a Steve or just a personal vlogger on Blip's homepage or showcase pages..It is about being a desitantion for shows on the web Which is fine, I mean they need to make money like anyone else and they are still the most creater friendly group I know of...this is not a bash of blip but more of a question of where do we go from here? thing... It's a very real possiblity that the only free game in town someday will be YT This email is a little all over the place but hopefully the main point is coming across...will the little guy eventually get shut out? Will it just be a small little market with a handfull of us just making personal vid's because we can? I'm going to be in NY tomorrow and Friday, maybe I should just drop by blip and ask them? lol Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: Seems to me that you're being misunderstood. The weird thing is that it seems almost deliberate. It reads like their stock position is that if anybody asks whether something they're doing breaches the ToS, they should err on the side of caution in their response and just say No. My personal reading of what you're doing is that it's fine under their ToS, but it's a bit depressing to see this kind of response from them, that doesn't seem to be trying to help you out or understand what it is that you're trying to do. Especially when they used to handle all support requests more quickly and positively than anyone else. I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. But perhaps the weight of HD content being uploaded to their servers, which they have to transcode and stream out, is costing them too much
RE: [videoblogging] Advertising and personal vlogs : Was, Blip doesn't love me anymore?
Yes, by all means, do stop by! Eric Mortensen wrote a response to the original thread, but his answer seems to be awaiting moderation? From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hpbatman7 Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 16:13 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Advertising and personal vlogs : Was, Blip doesn't love me anymore? I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. It's funny you should bring this up, as I have been wondering for a while now, what the future of the type of video blogging I do is. When I say I, I mean people who shoot mainly personal video's and don't have the ad's set to on. All these video hosting sites need to find a way to make money, charging for HD content is one (Google doesn't count as they have more money than the whole world and YT probably doesn't cost them anything, contray to some reports), limiting what you can upload and adding advertisments. Now at one time adding advertisments to any personal vlog would cause a massive flame war here with anyone who suggested that advertisments were not all bad, that person would forever be branded a heritic and cast out..Butif Blip doesn't make any money, then...bye, bye video's... So...what to do? Allow advererts? Or just hope that blip never goes away? Self host? (which may or may not be an issue) I mean long gone are the days when you could see a Josh Leo or Paul or a Steve or just a personal vlogger on Blip's homepage or showcase pages..It is about being a desitantion for shows on the web Which is fine, I mean they need to make money like anyone else and they are still the most creater friendly group I know of...this is not a bash of blip but more of a question of where do we go from here? thing... It's a very real possiblity that the only free game in town someday will be YT This email is a little all over the place but hopefully the main point is coming across...will the little guy eventually get shut out? Will it just be a small little market with a handfull of us just making personal vid's because we can? I'm going to be in NY tomorrow and Friday, maybe I should just drop by blip and ask them? lol Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: Seems to me that you're being misunderstood. The weird thing is that it seems almost deliberate. It reads like their stock position is that if anybody asks whether something they're doing breaches the ToS, they should err on the side of caution in their response and just say No. My personal reading of what you're doing is that it's fine under their ToS, but it's a bit depressing to see this kind of response from them, that doesn't seem to be trying to help you out or understand what it is that you're trying to do. Especially when they used to handle all support requests more quickly and positively than anyone else. I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. But perhaps the weight of HD content being uploaded to their servers, which they have to transcode and stream out, is costing them too much to be worth it. And I guess videoblogs and marketing and commercial videos often opt out of advertising, therefore don't make Blip any money. I know Vimeo banned videogame screencasts because they were costing too much in terms of processing time and bandwidth. Perhaps that's why Blip say We are not a good solution for screencasts - even though they're actually a great solution for your kind of screencasts. So. Add some post-roll adverts onto your videos, make them some money, and see how keen they are to nuke your account after that ;) Rupert On 28-Oct-09, at 1:24 PM, Adam Warner wrote: Hi
[videoblogging] 1and1 to go Unlimited web traffic on all acounts
Hi gang! Has anyone tried using 1and1's web hosting to host videos on their servers after they announced Unlimited traffic feature? I wonder what would be the best workflow as far as using a very good flash video player embeddable everywhere like youtube's. Any comments? Thanks -Renat Zarbailov Founder I N N O M I N D. O R G
Re: [videoblogging] Advertising and personal vlogs : Was, Blip doesn't love me anymore?
I love blip.tv because the video quality looks great (closest to source) I like how they post the embed codes download links as I'm basically a lazy (timepoor) person and like them so I don't have to think as much. youtube compresses a lot. I suppose the other option is to upload onto our own servers as in general (for me at least), since they're personal/niche videos they're not getting a lot of views so likely wouldn't throw out the bandwidth costs too much. I'd have to shift hosting sites though as I'm still on my orig one which doesn't have the large storage like some of the US cheaper ones. this would mean people would miss out on the traffic they might get from people browsing all/topic vids on sites like blip/vimeo - the community aspects. but I guess if it happened, there'd be other video curation sites popping up where people can post urls for viewers to browse it wouldn't matter where they were hosted. (like Andrew Baron's new site? haven't played there much yet) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: november 1
personally I'd treat the 90 secs as max... On 29/10/2009, at 12:48 AM, miglsd27 wrote: Are the the 90 seconds a top limit? Can I make less?
[videoblogging] Re: Where to Host Videos Now that My Beloved Blip.tv Doesn't Love Me Anymore
Yes, this has me concerned as well. I'm learning to do tutorial/screencast videos but I'm not going to be selling a product just demonstrating how the software and hardware work, i.e. maybe a screencast of Super(C) for an overview of compression for newbies. I do understand that there are commercial screencasts that are product demos and sales motivators. Those I can see being held to a different standard. But educators, nerds and equipment junkies not being able to screencast? Naw, misunderstood for sure. Please, pretty please let this be a misunderstanding. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Warner awarne...@... wrote: Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really appreciate your opinions on alternatives for hosting my videos as it relates to my requirements to keep some private and some public. Here are the details. I am developing a new site which will contain a lot of video. While I was poking around in my Blip.tv account I happened across their FAQ and saw something that I wanted to get some further information on before I started hosting hundreds of videos. I sent Blip.tv this message through their contact form: I have a Pro account and have been using it mostly for testing some video tutorials I've been making. The reason (I'm paying) for the Blip Pro account is because of the private feature and the ability to turn off embedding in the player settings. While browsing around in the Dashboard today I came across the content policy and it has me a bit worried as it may relate to my intended usage of Blips service. I hope you can clear things up and advise. My intention is to utilize my Blip account to continue to host my tutorial videos for a learning site in development. The site is named LearnWebTools and is located at http://learnwebtools.com. The site's focus will be to provide video tutorials on various web technologies. My desire is for some of these videos to only be available on this site (ones marked as private), and some to be available to through the show page (ones marked as public) and to take advantage of your video distribution service. I am looking for verification from Blip as to whether or not my intended usage constitutes a show in Blip's terms and if not, what steps I would need to take to become compliant. The first reply from Blip Support: Thanks for reaching out. We are a free platform, provided your content meets our terms of service. We are not a good solution for marketing or commercial videos. See our Terms of Service: Prohibited Content section, fourth bullet. You can read this at http://www.blip.tv/tos It looks like you have a really interesting business, and I hope you find a good match for a service provider. Best to you in your endeavors! ***Fourth Bullet of the tos says this*** Content that has as its sole or primary purpose to advertise a particular product or service that, in the sole judgment of Blip.tv, does not otherwise have redeeming value to the community. Blip.tv may allow the uploading of some such content for a fee, at its sole discretion. Such advertising content may be treated differently than other content (i.e. through indications that it is an advertisement, or exclusion from some indices or searches). I replied with this: I'm not sure I was clear on my intent. My intent is to create a show that showcases my video tutorials. It wouldn't be a show in terms of actors and such, more of a helpful Reality show. It is not to market commercial videos. I was asking if this would be considered a show under the Blip tos? I really do hope I can continue to use the Blip.tv service. ...and received this response: We're not a good solution for screencasts. If it is determined a tutorial is meant as advertisement for a product the account would be removed. Is it just me, or am I being misunderstood by this support person? If you do a simple search for tutorials or better yet screencasts, you will see many examples of tutorial screencast shows. Maybe the issue is that I actually asked permission? I'm just so disappointed. I plan to reply to the latest response with some further questioning (and perhaps begging), or maybe someone from Blip will see this and chime in (Mike do you still read these threads?) I welcome your thoughts everyone, and if I'm just plain wrong in my thinking that I should be able to continue using Blip, then so be it. I'll start looking for alternative ways to host my videos. Maybe I
