Re: [videoblogging] Re: Top Ten Vlogging Mistakes
--- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But because the law offers no protection for such creative re-use, it had to be removed from ourmedia when the copyright owner (United Features Syndicate) complained. This is an area of law which needs to be tested by the courts, but won't be if we all hide under Creative Commons. there's no incentive to test this in the courts, because major copyright owners - the ones likely to be involved in test cases - are inherently likely to win, given a) the resources they can bring to the table to fight, and b) the fact that the laws are written poorly (in other words, massively in their favor) in the first place. when congress can just wave its magic wand and extend copyright indefinitely, who cares what some minor court has to say about anything. the whole point of creative commons is that this process is *not* hidden, that it's exposed to all sides of the process - media consumers, media producers, and media distributors. what you seem to be suggesting here seems a little wonky: And, I reiterate: the music currently available under Creative Commons does not suit every need. I did look once for Indian music to use in my trailer, and did not find it. Someone in this thread said something about using popular music being easy. Damn right, and that's part of the reason I do it. which seems to me to be since there isn't enough good CC music in the world, the law should let me take whatever i want from whomever i want, and that is conceptually problematic. CC is a nascent movement; of course it doesn't suit every need right now. but the likelihood that CC could grow as a popular movement into the sort of thing that suits your/our needs is much greater in my opinion than the likelihood that the united states congress is going to suddenly have an a-ha moment, ignore entertainment industry lobbying groups, and magically stop repressing remix culture. -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogging Directories
--- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are they? I know of the top 5, but what are the rest? who are you referring to when you say the 'top 5'? -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogging Directories
also: Podguide.tv - curated directory of ipod compatible videoblogs these are mostly audio focused, but have videoblogs included: Podcast.net Podcastalley.com Podcastingnews.com thanks for the list, i had never heard of vlogmap. (stimpy, you diot!) -scotto --- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The top 5 are the 5 that come off the top of my head when people say where do I find videoblogs? Here are my top 5: Vlogdir. http://www.vlogdir.com Mefeedia. http://www.mefeedia.com Vlogmap. http://www.vlogmap.com Fireant. http://www.fireant.tv iTunes Music Store. From within iTunes What are some others? On 3/8/06, Caution Zero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are they? I know of the top 5, but what are the rest? who are you referring to when you say the 'top 5'? -scotto -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Need worksafe WMV, AVI, or whatever else Creative Vision:M will take
I'm here at Virgin Digital playing with one of those new Vision:M's by Creative, and I'm looking for some decent (meaning:worksafe) video in a format the device will recognize. I tried loading it with Jay's latest post, but no go -- it's a Quicktime file. I was gonna put some KitKat on the device, but ummm...worksafe? creative isn't supporting quicktime? curse you, red baron!! i suppose it's obvious now that it's been pointed out, but still... that's freaking irritating. i need to replace my nomad soon and this makes the decision more complicated... how do you like that vision:m in terms of form factor and usability? i've always been a creative supporter, but i was super tempted by the shiny shiny video ipod i played with recently... -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Channel101.com
--- Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of you seen and or submitted work to channel101.com? It doesn't look like they pull any punches, and are driving creators to create in a competitive darwinian model. It does look like they are having alot of fun and not taking themselves seriously. i think channel101 is fantastic. i have spent a lot of time there, thoroughly impressed with the creativity on display. i think the nature of their live screenings is probably hard to underestimate; they are clearly going for stuff that will play well to an audience of several hundred people drinking and having a good time in a night club. but many of their shows are just outstanding regardless. the only sad part is how often really, really good stuff gets cancelled. for instance, check out the AMAZING wright brothers series that only ran for four episodes: the wright stuff http://channel101.com/shows/show.php?show_id=163 being in LA, they have the benefit of a community that keeps it thriving. we're hoping to follow a bit in their footsteps with Caution Zero Network, given that we have a huge, wonderfully talented fringe theater and sketch comedy scene up here. -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Advice Please
--- Conrad Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If any of you do this then please point me to your site so I can see how I should offer it. Also, should I consider putting both types of file on the same feed? we offer feeds for all our filetypes, plus a feed that includes all the filetypes: http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/rss.html they are of variable popularity, of course, but we felt it wasn't that much work to just snag the extra subscribers. Do you publicise both feeds? we mainly use the quicktime 7 feed for publicity. -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
nice... at the end of step 1, i am getting: Sorry! an unexpected error has occurred. This error has been forwarded to MySpace's technical group. mmm, how i love it when major sites neglect qa... -scotto --- filmmaker_lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh... Here's the frontpage of it. http://music.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=film Lynn Lane Coal River Pictures website: www.CoalRiverPictures.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MySpace Page: http://myspace.com/lynnlane Vlogs: Docmaker on the Go vlog: http://docmaker.blogspot.com feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/docmaker Coming Soon: www.Vlogumentarian.com www.VlogReporter.com AIVF/IDA Ring 8 (Boxing Organization) Member Marshall Chess Club Member NYC --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone provide a direct link to this film side of MySpace? The best I can find is a forum topic discussion for filmmakers. -josh On 2/26/06, johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't wait!! I mean, I feel old enough already. Definitely time to stick a fork in me and take me off the grill; I'm done. All these little constructs we debate-- they already know. They make it naturally. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://vloggercon.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron andrew@ wrote: Another important consideration that people often overlook is that these young teenagers will soon be the leaders of the world. Very soon. On Feb 26, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Frank Carver wrote: Sunday, February 26, 2006, 2:39:39 AM, Jay dedman wrote: but for whatever reason, MySpace still seems like a dead end. doesn't seem like it will last. Yahoo! Groups Links -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Four Eyed Media Monsters
--- Richard BF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm especially interested in the new members' opinions, as they probably haven't had a lot of the citizen media, fuck big media rhetoric we used to go on about here a year ago, but now tend to no longer bother about. i guess you asked for it, and i'm new enough, so. :) i didn't catch on until recently that many members of this list defined videoblogging as inherently personal... livejournal via video, as it were. i don't have a problem with that as an aspect of videoblogging. i just also thought non-diary art was quite significantly a part of what you seem to be pointing at when you say 'citizen media, fuck big media'. i think the idea that only large networks can push out episodic video storytelling, for instance, is ripe for destruction, and a videoblog seems to be a great way to distribute an antidote. it seems like that kind of storytelling could / should coexist pretty easily alongside 'here is what i am thinking right now' when it comes to what styles / genres videoblogging should encompass or describe as a term. -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?
--- Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I completely agree and have been using pod/vlogsafe music from magnatune.com. given that someday we might want to try to sell our stuff, i've a) asked a composer to do some original music, but equally fun has been b) using royalty-free music. i love how easy it is to find on the net now. it ain't as cheap as 'free!' but it's really really good when you need very specific moods to be able to just keyword search off things like nostalgic or adventurous and get zip files with 15 sec, 30 sec, and 60 sec versions. we have a running gag going right now where a melodramatic piece of music called Thrill Seekers is going to appear in every single episode of our first season... getting our money's worth on that one at least... -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Will The Bubble Up Fizzle Down?
--- Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that if you do get to the point of selling your stuff, you can try to work out a deal with the copyright holder. Most of my stuff is CC Non-Commercial, but if you used it, and later had a chance to make money with it, I'd gladly work something out to supply you with a commercial license. it's probably a lot less risky to work that out in advance rather then when you decide to sell your work, but yeah. i could do that, but what i like about the royalty-free music sites i'm using is how easily searchable they are and how reliable they are. that was one of the main reasons i wanted to mention that type of music as a resource. that said, read the small print if you go that route - not all royalty-free licenses are equally friendly; one site in particular, for instance, forced you to declare your finished product all rights reserved if you wanted to use their music, which didn't work at all with my CC plans. that said, if we do a season two, i am hoping to put out more of a call for composers - try to get some CC savvy musicians who might want to help score specific scenes or offer existing tunes that they think would fit what we need. i didn't really think i'd have much luck with that approach until i'd built an audience, so i just asked a buddy to score some scenes, but as we got into editing, it became clear we needed extra stuff. actually, one of our editors has gotten really damn savvy just using soundtrack to get beds and loops going that sound really professional. it still kind of stuns me how cool the tools / options are these days; fun stuff indeed. -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Networks afraid of vlogging?
--- robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone explain why youtube (and vimeo) constantly entertain? Both have a method for discover that works. That's valuable. i'd be interested to hear more about why you say this. i find youtube to be a swamp that consistently tries my patience. i'm desperate for a more curated experience of video on the web than that. i guess i realize there are plenty of people with near infinite amounts of time to surf that stuff, but man, it drives me nuts. -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Will people buy subscriptions
--- Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the other night i heard about a service that charged $8/year to handle itunes subscriptions, they said you keep 100% of your subscriptions http://www.tunecore.com/ tunecore is not doing video at the moment. they are strictly a service to help independent labels / musicians get music in the itunes stores and on real rhapsody. -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pricing Media (difficult question)
--- Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the ad was generic enough it may have longer pertinence. But I would think the ad would be less meaningful and valuable to the company paying for it in time. seems like sponsorship campaigns would potentially have a greater chance of maintaining value in this time-shifting situation - associating your brand with the brand halo of a RB has a value, even if you're not selling a specific product. one of the reasons internet advertising at the level of raw banner ad units is hard to effectively measure is that even if a user doesn't click on the ad, there's value in just getting your message or your brand in front of a user in the first place. i can easily see google ad sense extended into videoblogging by way of intelligent tagging, however. imagine a protocol that calls their ad server when you start watching the file and has a relevant, contextual ad to show you by the end of the file. sure, in today's world, shifting video to the ipod would break that - but these video players will definitely not be without wireless connectivity forever (if phones don't simply usurp these devices' role altogether). -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] CHERUB - episode 1 is live!
Greetings, I have no intention of spamming this list every single week, but I did think it was worth mentioning us one more time... I know this list is smart enough to sub to a feed if you want future updates; I mainly posted this to let you know that we're on schedule and should be posting every week for the next several months. Episode One of the new web parody CHERUB, the vampire with bunny slippers, is now live: http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ In this episode, a simple assignment to rescue a lost kitty turns into a nightmarish confrontation with Cherub's arch-nemesis, Johnny Mildly-Irritating. Also, the gang runs out of gin and panic ensues. CHERUB is a slapstick parody of Joss Whedon's ANGEL, released as an internet video series by Seattle-based Caution Zero Network. Season One features twelve 4-7 minute episodes about the adventures of Cherub, the vampire with bunny slippers, and his gang at Cherub Investigations - the aspiring actress Charity Case, the arcane expert Jasper Windham-Hill, the muscle man Roger Pipebomb, and the inter-dimensional traveler Barney. New episodes will be released every Friday. Like the show? Do us a favor and Digg it! http://digg.com/movies/Angel_Parody:_Cherub,_the_vampire_with_bunny_slippers:_episode_1 Thanks much! -Scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers
--- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, looks like I'm going to enjoy that. Now if you'd just include a DivX download, I could burn it to CD and watch it on the TV with the rest of the family, just as we used to do with Buffy and Angel... (yes, we are an entire family of Buffy geeks). not a bad idea... although we do plan on releasing the whole first season on DVD eventually, so maybe that will suffice. :) -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Podfading
--- PBCliberal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To some extent it already is. Look at how many video blogs have only one or two video pieces online, usually produced in November or December of last year, by people who had no idea how much work goes into every second of high quality video acquisition and post-production. that's definitely one of the main reasons i wanted to get into videoblogging from the perspective of episodic storytelling - the idea that story arcs can have an end and we can walk away gracefully when we're done telling stories in that world (or when we realize that people have stopped watching, and we cancel ourselves). i write an mp3 blog that updates five days a week, something quite simple by comparison, yet it is enough work that i knew an open-ended videoblog would drive me off a cliff... but i definitely admire those who are making that format go! -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers
--- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS to Scott: I seriously hope there is a line in the upcoming season in which the gypsy says The frogurt is also cursed. I also hope you get the reference heh, i'm afraid my simpsons fu is not nearly as great as my whedon fu. but thanks to google, i was able to hear the majesty of the reference in question: http://www.rpi.edu/~markhn/sounds/curse.wav sadly, season one of cherub is finished shooting, or we could have stuck that in somewheres... -scotto -- CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] CHERUB - the vampire with bunny slippers
hey folks, we've been following this list for months but haven't had anything new to add... until now! we just launched a new episodic video blog, would love to have feedback. here's the relevant data: Caution Zero Network presents: CHERUB, the Vampire with Bunny Slippers http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub CHERUB is a slapstick parody of Joss Whedon's ANGEL, released as an internet video series. Season One features twelve 4-7 minute episodes about the adventures of Cherub, the vampire with bunny slippers, and his gang at Cherub Investigations - the aspiring actress Charity Case, the arcane expert Jasper Windham-Hill, the muscle man Roger Pipebomb, and the inter-dimensional traveler Barney. New episodes will be released every Friday beginning February 10; a trailer for the season is already available. The series is at once a wild send-up and loving homage of Whedon's vampire with a soul. Cherub must safeguard a mystical artifact, the Eggplant of Mystery, from Cherub's nemesis, Johnny Mildly-Irritating, and the evil law firm of Dogboy Goat. If he ever experiences a moment of perfect back adjustment, his cursed bunny slippers will turn against him - which could be trouble when his old flame Muffy the Vampire Chiropractor comes to town. The only reason we would go to this much trouble to make this parody is because we actually really, really loved ANGEL, says creator Scott O. Moore. It's sad that they aren't going to make any more ANGEL, and this is the best we can do in the meantime. Well, this is the best we bothered to do, I should say. The first season of the series was shot over the course of six days in a small soundstage in Seattle, and is being edited by a team in Seattle and New York City. Released via video blog, the show will be easily available via iTunes, Windows Media, and a PSP-friendly format. The show was filmed with small screens such as the video iPod specifically in mind. Like the Whedon show it parodies, CHERUBs first season has a long story arc that continues throughout all twelve episodes. And like ANGEL, some storylines are left unresolved at the end of the season, leaving the door open for future episodes if the show finds an audience. CHERUB is hosted by Caution Zero Network, a new Seattle-based company that plans to produce and release more video projects in the future, drawing on extensive roots in the Seattle theatre and film communities to create interesting new content for the internet. View the trailer: http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub -scotto __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
