[videoblogging] Re: Newsflash from the future
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: Things like this come along to remind me that it's 2009 already. WE LIVE IN THE FUTURE. Fuji are releasing a 3D digital stills and video point and shoot camera, and standalone wireless 3D digital picture frame. No glasses required for viewing 3D on either the camera or the picture frame. http://www.gizmag.com/fujifilm-finepix-real-3d-w1-camera/12445/ http://www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/ AND Nikon are releasing a point and shoot camera with 4 video modes and built-in 40 inch projector. http://www.gizmag.com/nikon-coolpix-s1000pj/12437/ http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/digitalcamera/coolpix/s1000pj/ Both coming to stores near you in September. if you live in America. the Japanese have probably had this shit for years. the rest of us peasants will probably get access to them around 2015. by which time you'll all have hoverboards. Rupert http://twitter.com/ruperthowe It looks like what the viewer does is project two sources of light into a viewing area for separate eye viewing: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/viewer/finepix_real3dv1/features/index.html -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Great piece on Gawker: The End of Television as We Know It
While this excerpt goes into aspects of technology, it is not discerning. The main thing it's missing is that while there's a dropping of technological limitations in producing content. The human limitations have not changed. On the viewing end, people still have only so much time and interest to spend on media. Unlike print while is non-linear -- you can read a book, blog, twitter stream to a point, and then come back and continue at any time later -- video and film are linear. If you stop watching a video 1/3 through and come back three days later, you lose the impact and need to start at the beginning. And you have only so many 30 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hour periods during you day to watch; depending on the linear media story length. The fact that livestreaming and technologies that companies like Microsoft develop allow automatic recording of media do not diminish the problem of limited time people have to watch but amplify it. It means that it'll be even more important to edit media into meaningful pieces that provide useful information, rather than having a massive glut of linear media to wade through. When the printing press arrived it didn't make everyone a Moliere, Shakespeare or Dickens. But it allowed them to be recognized and be known quicker. Still 99% of people who wrote were only interesting to immediate friends and family -- or less than 1% of people. While 1% of the very talented story writers are interesting to almost everyone. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@... wrote: http://gawker.com/5265239/the-end-of-television-as-we-know-it , but here's the good stuff: You see, with the internet, yes *the internet*, creators of serialized content can circumvent the system and produce their shows independently, in much the same way that filmmakers began began circumventing the studio system to develop films a few years back-They raise money on their own, shoot the film they want to shoot, and then turn around and showcase at film festivals where, if the moon and the stars align just right, they're able to sell their film and it goes on to become a huge success. This model birthed some of the more smart, intelligent and important films of the modern era, shot from scripts that may have never seen the light of day otherwise in the traditional system, because they were too edgy or some horseshit like that. The problem, for years, with doing this with television was that content creators didn't have a way to showcase their product, they couldn't take it into a screening room and expect prospective buyers of content to sit there and spend hours watching a full season of television to see if it was worth a shit or not, but with the internet they now do. More and more Americans are watching more and more video online for longer and longer periods of time, so it stands to reason that sooner or later, someone is going to raise their own money, shoot their own full length show (half hour to an hour long) without network interference, put it on the internet, and it will become a cultural phenomenon, something that people, average people and not just early adapters, talk about around the proverbial water cooler at work. In fact, it's probably on the verge of happening right now. And then a network will swoop in and buy the show to bring it to those still not watching television on the internet, and other shows will be developed online and other networks will swoop in and buy them too, but eventually everyone will watch episodic shows online and there won't be a need for the traditional networks any longer. Hell, right now, Microsoft and Apple are both developing programs that will capture all of the video you want to watch by recording it live as it goes up onto the web and saving it for the user to view later, just like a DVR or TiVo, except for your computer and handheld electronic devices. These sort of software programs currently being developed aggregate video content from all over the web so the user can watch everything in one place instead of surfing around from site to site to watch the things they want to watch. In other words, the need for television networks to develop and air shows will evaporate. They'll still be there, it's a stretch to say they'll die off altogether, but they will never be the same. And we'll all be better off for that. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Paul joshp...@... wrote: This largest hurdle I foresee is getting apps to run on the tvs, and how well each manufacturer adheres to any given standard. I believe most manufacturers have signed on to use tru2way, which is based in Java, which is now owned by Oracle. Does anyone foresee Ellison making some type of grab here? If so, will it kill the platform/adoption? My impression is that the main, first iTV's use a closed software architecture of widgets, i.e. Yahoo Widgets. There's one or more that have open software, but very expensive. It probably won't be until next year that open software iTV's will be affordable that anyone can write software to. Things may have changed since I last looked into this...let me know if otherwise. -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
The history of technological phaes is covered well by Kurzweil in The Singularity is Near, IMO. The first phase is widely optomistic where people see possibilities and blue skies. Then those predictions fall short with skepticism and conservative view. In the second (and sometimes third phase) real success occurs. Recently this can be seen with the first dot.com boom and bust. Out of that huge, successful companies emerged in the second phase like Google, Amazon, etc. For internet media we are probably between the first and second phase. And I do (and have) predicted that Internet TV will realize the potential of quality, independent online media publishing. Story telling going back to performing in front of a group at a fire, the Greek theatres, to Cinema and TV, is at a distance, large. It is immersive and compelling. For story, people want to be drawn into it -- not disengage to interact and direct it, then immerse again back and forth. Otherwise it's game playing, not story. And Internet TV will remove the network/cable gatekeepers to Story in it's proper proscenium. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@... wrote: And like Social Media, YouTube, videoblogging, twitter, and other trends, it will take 3 years to become mainstream. Year 1: Discovery by early-adopters Year 2: Corporate Discovery and creation of budget for projects in... Year 3: Where everything goes mainstream. I keep talking about this three year trend to people, saying that we have to move fast if we want to change the media. Look at how things changed for videoblogging alone between 2004 and 2007, or even from 2006 to now? This is not a dress rehearsal. We can't just sit and talk about changing the state of media, we must take action. The corporate momentum and infrastructure/warchest for communication has and will drown out our conversations, no matter how many positive benefits our ideas will bring to the world. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Rupert rup...@... wrote: This is it. On 24-May-09, at 5:05 PM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: With set-top boxes failing, major brands like Sony are planning on adding ethernet ports to their flatscreens: http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2521446,00.html Plug and play internet on televisions could be a total game-changer. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: SHVH - Ojai, CA
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jimmyjay24 onarol...@... wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jimmyjay24 onaroll44@ wrote: Feb 7th + OjaiDigitalDojo = SuperHappyVlogHouse A laid-back, over-friendly, often serendipitous meetup of vloggers Open agenda: share vids, discuss projects, ask questions, make merry Info and sign-up on the wiki (password to the wiki: sh1vh) Newbies welcome http://superhappyvloghouse.pbwiki.com/OjaiDigitalDojo ...this is your subconscious reminding you that SuperHappyVlogHouse at the OjaiDigitalDojo is a short 10 days away...where's that video I want to show...what's the name of that plugin...how do I get rid of the hiss...why does Markus call it a dojo--is he a ninja... Prior Ojai residents: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/gallery/2009/jan/17/rock-stars-parents?picture=341867265
[videoblogging] Re: HD Backup
Good points Brook. I was thinking alternately of just buying a new drive as I need it. And they'll probably just continue going down in price. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhin...@... wrote: Speed is the issue with backing up as data to DV. Its going to take an hour for every 17 gigs. It also locks you into a proprietary system for dumping and recovering. Another minus: DV tapes are relatively fragile and definitely not archival. For data backup I'd give them a three year life at maximum. Drive space is cheap these days. Most people I know are just dedicating external drives for video backup. You can buy an external 1 TB MyBook with firewire, esata AND usb2 for $150 - that's the cost or 50 low end DV tapes, making the drive about the same cost per gig (cheaper if you aren't compressing the tape backups). .Also not archival - all drives fail (EVERYTHING fails), but easier to manage a few large capacity drives than boatloads of tape for cloning/refreshing every few years. And much much much much faster. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] HD Backup
Is there a non-exorbitent method of backing up HD encoded video? Encoding AVCHD to quicktime or mp4 increases file size by 5 or more multiples. A project can be FCP project can have 100 gb of clips. I remember in the olde days tape storage was a quick, cheap and good method of backing up large data -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: HD Backup
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric en...@... wrote: Is there a non-exorbitent method of backing up HD encoded video? Encoding AVCHD to quicktime or mp4 increases file size by 5 or more multiples. A project can be FCP project can have 100 gb of clips. I remember in the olde days tape storage was a quick, cheap and good method of backing up large data -- Enric Think I found the solution to mini-DV: http://www.jakeludington.com/project_studio/20050828_backup_files_to_dv_camera.html ;)
[videoblogging] Best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kNbS6pTBP4watch_response
[videoblogging] Directors back distributor Cinelan
There's an interesting article on a a new film content publisher, launched Thursday at the Berlin Film Fest focusing on professionally produced, three-minute nonfiction films. Wonder if anything will come of it, http://tinyurl.com/33eug9 -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Penn Jillette vlogging
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, michael_aivaliotis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://crackle.com/c/Penn_Says/ That's a lot of Sony cameras. Penn makes obvious, clear sense.
[videoblogging] Re: iTunes feed is empty
I'm pretty busy with the work I currently have. So if you've already tried reinstalled and it didn't work, I need to know. I don't have time to go on sites and debug what's happening. I'm can spend time on the vPIP code as time permits, but if something needs to be fixed on a site like a Wordpress install, the people involved will need to handle that. -- Ernic --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went through and made a few repairs. But... still nothing shows up on my iTunes page. In fact... I'm not 100% sure my iTunes page is hooked to my feedburner feed. Anyway I can check the details of my itunes information/setup? Hey MissB ... your iTunes is also empty. Ryanne and I also have had the same kind of problem with our feed. our feed isnt updating. Enric was helping us trouble shoot and thought that we need to reintsall WP in case something got corrupted. Mike, are you using vPIP? what's your feed? maybe we can find a shared trait that is causing our issue. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
[videoblogging] Re: New Media Douche Bags
In The Wisdom of Crowds, James Surowiecki -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds -- talks the evidence of how crowds work. Crowds having a range of information, expertise, etc. But in a well working group, the mis- information (ill formed rants and raves), cancel each other out. Leaving a mean or average of information that is usually as accurate or more than any expert. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol, interesting video :D I guess I would be a fully qualified new media douchebag if I had a career in self- promotion, had a blog, used half of those services, etc, but I dont. Uut Ive got the opinionated hate part, so I gues Im well on the road to becoming what I hate. Time to get the video effects ableton live out and try to recover the weird me that used to exist more before I started ranting on the net. I fl the need to twist and subvert the new media a-list, and fuse it with something altogether less blurgh. 'Scoble on Acid' is my starting point. Join me, season starts November 2013 based on my current pace of progress ;) Who are the Pete Scott you refer to, or were you joking? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, tim@ tim@ wrote: Podcasting News has found a telling video. I find it interesting that they use the names Pete and Scott in the video. Why would they use those names? Pete and Scott don't hate and they are certainly not Douche Bags. http://www.podcastingnews.com/2007/11/21/media-douchebags-unite/ Tim Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids http://frenchmaidtv.com Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Need to decide on a format
For vPIP release 1.13c: The license.txt has been updated to list the current licenses of the vPIP components. The readme.html file now points to http://vpip.org for the most recent documentation. Thanks, Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen solitude@ wrote: Den 16.11.2007 kl. 13:35 skrev Jay dedman jay.dedman@: vPIP is GPLso if you wanted to help optimize this feature... I've been confused about the license of vPIP for a while now, maybe Enric can help out. I realise that I'm one of the few people who have actually read through the vPIP source code more than once starting with the first versions Enric released way back when and as a result some of my obversations are more esoteric. The licenses.txt states that the cirneViewer.swf is conventional copyright and the rest of the package is LGPL (not GPL). But vPIP consists of a collection of scripts, some by Enric, some not. * The .js files contain text stating that they are covered by the X11 license. * jQuery is either MIT or GPL (I'm guessing MIT is what enric chose since bundling it would be impossible under GPL). * The thickbox is clearly marked as Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike, but the thickbox parts of vpip.js are not marked so it's impossible to see which parts of the file are LGPL or X11 or CC BY-SA. * Cortado is GPL as far as I know, but I can't find a note about this anywhere in the vPIP package * The source code for the code generator is nowhere to be found making the LGPL license kinda worthless since it's impossible to do anything with the complied swf file. * The jeroen flv player bundled has no license information, but if it's identical to the one on his website it's CC BY-NC-SA, not LGPL. This kind of stuff is important to get sorted out. It needs to be very clear what parts are covered by which license. Especially considering projects like Show in a Box which states that everything here is open source (when it's clearly not that simple). - Andreas -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen http://www.solitude.dk/ Thank you for bringing these details up. Both the license.txt and readme.html are months out of date. I will do this for the next release of vPIP: - Update lincese.txt to list all licenses for all code. - Provide and include source for all SWF files that are not the cineViewer (name changed from cirneViewer) flash application. - Change readme.html to point to the documentation at http://vpip.org Note: - The Jeroen FLV Player is not included in vPIP. There is a ..\jeroen directory that has graphical assets for building in the flash player, cineViewer's, interface to look similar to one of the jeroen flv player interfaces. - All vPIP code except the cineViewer application will be licensed under X11 (or MIT License): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Licensing
I should have clarified that the freedom I'm talking about is the right to negotiate how your work is used. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a contradiction in the GPL inasmuch as it prevents people from restricting the freedom of others. (Just as laws against slavery impinge upon the freedom of slave owners.) Nevertheless, those that desire a freer freedom can pick the BSD license, which permits the software to be incorporated in unfree systems. This is how Microsoft Windows contains TCP/IP code from BSD unix. Enric wrote: This may start a whole discussion back and forth. But, I find a problem with the philosophy and idea behind fully GPL and free software. As Richard Stallman posits freedom, it's the freedom of anyone to use software without restriction or barriers. The contradiction I find is that is that is purely accomplished by compelling those that create software to release all the code. So there is a contradiction in the word freedom in that it is taking away freedom of choice from those that create the work. I see the best result is a wide inclusion of those producing open source and mixed open and closed source products. That way a wide range of products and perspectives produce a rich, valuable source of software. -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Need to decide on a format
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to help a tiny bit with show-in-a-box licensing issues: http://showinabox.pbwiki.com/licensing As you can see, I had not explored what VPiP was made of, but from what I understood it would need to be GPL to be distributed with the rest of SIAB. Did I get that right? No, GPL allows other code licensed with less restrictive licenses. A list of those licenses are at: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html vPIP is licensed under X11 (sometimes called MIT License) which the GPL license allows. Frankly, there is a lack of people who understand this stuff, and an apparent lack of will to try to understand it. The issues arent being taken seriously enough, which ironic considering how strongly many in this group feel when its peoples video licenses that are being ignored. Yes, I've been finding it a bit frustrating getting repeated questions on why vPIP isn't GPL that I've explained several times. -- Enric I suppose I should not be surprised, given the amount of times I mention that many peoples CC licenses give others the right to re-host their work, which is incompatible with many peoples stated wishes to remain in control of their content for stats purposes, and I never get any response to that. I gues the details give people a headache, but these legal issues are meaningless without understanding of the detail. I mean I cant really blame people for not wanting to look at the detail, as some of it is likely to spoil their dreams and plans, but all the same, its irresponsible. If I ever do anything useful I think I'll just release it into the public domain to provide a few less headaches for everyone else. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen solitude@ wrote: Den 16.11.2007 kl. 13:35 skrev Jay dedman jay.dedman@: vPIP is GPLso if you wanted to help optimize this feature... I've been confused about the license of vPIP for a while now, maybe Enric can help out. I realise that I'm one of the few people who have actually read through the vPIP source code more than once starting with the first versions Enric released way back when and as a result some of my obversations are more esoteric. The licenses.txt states that the cirneViewer.swf is conventional copyright and the rest of the package is LGPL (not GPL). But vPIP consists of a collection of scripts, some by Enric, some not. * The .js files contain text stating that they are covered by the X11 license. * jQuery is either MIT or GPL (I'm guessing MIT is what enric chose since bundling it would be impossible under GPL). * The thickbox is clearly marked as Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike, but the thickbox parts of vpip.js are not marked so it's impossible to see which parts of the file are LGPL or X11 or CC BY-SA. * Cortado is GPL as far as I know, but I can't find a note about this anywhere in the vPIP package * The source code for the code generator is nowhere to be found making the LGPL license kinda worthless since it's impossible to do anything with the complied swf file. * The jeroen flv player bundled has no license information, but if it's identical to the one on his website it's CC BY-NC-SA, not LGPL. This kind of stuff is important to get sorted out. It needs to be very clear what parts are covered by which license. Especially considering projects like Show in a Box which states that everything here is open source (when it's clearly not that simple). - Andreas -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen http://www.solitude.dk/
[videoblogging] Re: Need to decide on a format
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Den 16.11.2007 kl. 13:35 skrev Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vPIP is GPLso if you wanted to help optimize this feature... I've been confused about the license of vPIP for a while now, maybe Enric can help out. I realise that I'm one of the few people who have actually read through the vPIP source code more than once starting with the first versions Enric released way back when and as a result some of my obversations are more esoteric. The licenses.txt states that the cirneViewer.swf is conventional copyright and the rest of the package is LGPL (not GPL). But vPIP consists of a collection of scripts, some by Enric, some not. * The .js files contain text stating that they are covered by the X11 license. * jQuery is either MIT or GPL (I'm guessing MIT is what enric chose since bundling it would be impossible under GPL). * The thickbox is clearly marked as Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike, but the thickbox parts of vpip.js are not marked so it's impossible to see which parts of the file are LGPL or X11 or CC BY-SA. * Cortado is GPL as far as I know, but I can't find a note about this anywhere in the vPIP package * The source code for the code generator is nowhere to be found making the LGPL license kinda worthless since it's impossible to do anything with the complied swf file. * The jeroen flv player bundled has no license information, but if it's identical to the one on his website it's CC BY-NC-SA, not LGPL. This kind of stuff is important to get sorted out. It needs to be very clear what parts are covered by which license. Especially considering projects like Show in a Box which states that everything here is open source (when it's clearly not that simple). - Andreas -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen http://www.solitude.dk/ Thank you for bringing these details up. Both the license.txt and readme.html are months out of date. I will do this for the next release of vPIP: - Update lincese.txt to list all licenses for all code. - Provide and include source for all SWF files that are not the cineViewer (name changed from cirneViewer) flash application. - Change readme.html to point to the documentation at http://vpip.org Note: - The Jeroen FLV Player is not included in vPIP. There is a ..\jeroen directory that has graphical assets for building in the flash player, cineViewer's, interface to look similar to one of the jeroen flv player interfaces. - All vPIP code except the cineViewer application will be licensed under X11 (or MIT License): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Licensing
This may start a whole discussion back and forth. But, I find a problem with the philosophy and idea behind fully GPL and free software. As Richard Stallman posits freedom, it's the freedom of anyone to use software without restriction or barriers. The contradiction I find is that is that is purely accomplished by compelling those that create software to release all the code. So there is a contradiction in the word freedom in that it is taking away freedom of choice from those that create the work. I see the best result is a wide inclusion of those producing open source and mixed open and closed source products. That way a wide range of products and perspectives produce a rich, valuable source of software. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think vPIP is an awesome plug-in. I'm glad we get to ship it / promote it / teach people how to use it with Show in a Box. I respect Enric's desire to not offer everything as GPL. Especially since he is working on his flash player to make it fabulous, and since the use of flash players by media companies big and small is a HUGE thing, that has to do with $$$ flowing... I respect Enric's plan, whatever it might be, to be able to charge people for use in the future / or whatever (I don't know what) but to not simply give everything away as GPL. We definitely need to work out the licensing issues around all the parts of SIAB. It's on the long list of things to do -- but no one has gotten to it with the focus and rigor needed to finish answering all the questions and teach everyone else what's up. I, for example, barely know what all the different terms mean -- and could easily use the wrong one when talking. This issue does keep coming up internally, and does keep starting over at the beginning... without ever really getting resolved. So -- sorry, Enric. I hope it seems less like pressure to get you to change your mind -- and more of a lack of understanding and clarity on the part of the SIAB team. What we need is for someone in this group to take this on as a task and go the distance with figuring out what all this means. And write it all up as a clear thing on the wiki -- and hopefully in the future we can simply keep pointing to the wiki. I think the issue is least resolved around the flash player issues -- what are we going to include? How do those licenses line up. Do we have any lawyers in this group?? Anyone who's worked on software licensing before?? Any volunteers to really figure this out??? Jen On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:10 pm, Enric wrote: Yes, I've been finding it a bit frustrating getting repeated questions on why vPIP isn't GPL that I've explained several times. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: JetSetShow becomes Epic-FU
Nice move! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://jetsetshow.com is now http://epicfu.com/ -- Bill Cammack http://reelsolid.tv
[videoblogging] Re: re:Casey's thread: Dan McVicar, AFTRA, and independent producers
I remember when I got out of College with a Film degree and called the local Projectionist union. The woman there, hearing how young my voice sounded, basically said how dare I call for information. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you say seems ok, but what happens if Google/YouTube, Blip or the other online distribution places sign agreements with the unions that could eventually push out non-union and non-commercial productions? Currently we have the choice to say Bugger off, I don't need you. If the online distribution joints are collecting revenue and braking off a piece for the union wouldn't the unions at some point force or make it known that they would prefer union talent in as many web based productions as possible? I don't know how to say this correctly but theoretically the union could tell you (Actor McVicar) to stop your production because you (Producer/Vlogger) are not paying union dues as an actor. It goes back to the question what is going to be considered a professional production? Is a one person vlogger exempt but if you have three or more working together that makes it a production company? This could set the precedent that allows the other entertainment unions jump in. I have too many questions about this. Gut feeling it seems like a creativity killer in the making. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, danielmcvicar danielmcvicar@ wrote: Hi Everybody, I've been a member of SAG and AFTRA for decades, and sometimes serve on committees in preparing for negotiation. It is my observation that this is a new area for unions, producers, performers and distributors of media. The business models are being disrupted. The union has always been there to protect performers from abusive work conditions, to improve pay and conditions, and has also taken the responsibility for insuring performers. Regarding net video, the union doesn't know what to do yet. There are some plans in place that allow producers of net video to be brought in under AFTRA rules that are not very expensive. They would be similar to lowbudget film deals. Really, it is at what point does the video become professional, and is distributed in a way that makes money. You may always operate outside the union, if you are an independent producer, but there may be limitations in using union members or in distributing videos through union signatories. That is the same in preexisting video and film formats. There are more shared points that the union would have with producers and distributors of content. One in particular is piracy, and the violation of copyright. I have suggested that in the coming negotiation with the networks and producers for the AFTRA contract, that the performer and union retain their right to sue Youtube or another entity that profited illegally from their work and image. This would be an adjustment in language, because the current release transfers copyright to the producer, and it is the producer's responsibility to seek damages. Without drilling down into more specifics, I would like to say that a union can serve performers, creators and producers well. It is the loss of revenue from work that is the biggest threat to all. Just ask people in the music industry. Perhaps there will be an adaptation of the unions to include small producers who perform and create, and the rights for all can be protected. I don't think there is a way to bully anyone out of the sphere now. Not as long as there are video cameras, and places to post videos. What they can do is to help the performer and creator earn some revenue from the further distribution of their work in digital formats, and recover part of that revenue stream be it in paid download, or on a site or format that includes advertising. Ciao! D --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: Wel I am a fan of unions in general. I just think there will be some growing pains if they try to apply this stuff to net video prematurely, especially as there is currently so much hype about internet video $$ which doesnt match the reality for most. So I do look forward to the day when unions get in the way of someone exploiting people whilst making lots of money, but do not look forward to the day that some small player with no money gets bullied out of this sphere by unions. Cheers Steve Elbow --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin jannie.jan@ wrote: Is this a 'problem' for indie talent and technician? Or a blessing? Health insurance, retirement benefits, fiscal protections from abuse, etc? There either will or will not come a time when the things you produce are popular enough to sustain
[videoblogging] Re: International Disturbed People's Day
Your not disturbing me, I already am --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today is apparently the International Disturbed People's Day and I wanted to wish all vloggers a Happy international disturbed people's day. Cause to be frank most of the vloggers I know are DEEPLY disturbedespecialy Galacticast and Wreck and Salavge, some episodes of Lo-Fi St. Louis, and that really weird bunny wedding of Schlomo's, Bekah's crazy #$%^$# neighbor, Verdi's naked video and.well I am sure you get the idea. Here's to disturbed long may we reign! Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] Re: Patrick Power 1969-2007
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. I am stunned. Patrick Power mailed Brittany and I when he saw the lumiere manifesto on boingboing. We had very brief communication and then nothing. Now I know why. Brittany went through almost all of his videos as she was searching for the right ones to present on dvblog. His works were nothing short of amazing. I cannot tell how saddened I am to hear that he has passed away. - Andreas Den 21.10.2007 kl. 15:06 skrev Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The excellent dvblog.org today posted some intriguing work by a fellow named Patrick Power. A trip to patrickpower.com, however, revealed the disturbing news that Patrick Power died a week ago. Perusing photos on the site, it appears that within the last five months, he had a child, got married, and died. Further research indicates that his site and work have not been much discussed, that much of his work (still viewable thanks to the wayback machine) was absolutely extraordinary, and that he was a genuine pioneer in this medium, posting web video since the mid-90s and, while not exactly videobloging, having a regularly updated site for the last decade consisting of constantly updated videos. Really the only thing that makes it not one of the first videoblogs is the lack of RSS. Further, he was regularly teaching this to people. Does anyone have more information about him - his work, what happened to him, anything? I should also mention that the redirect from patrickpower.com includes a donation button to help his family. ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen http://www.solitude.dk/ http://www.patrickpower.com/otto/ http://www.patrickpower.com/cloudset/
[videoblogging] Re: Casey in the Guardian: Will Hollywood kill the web-only stars.
Also, Jackson West's WGA interview with member Ezra Sacks: http://newteevee.com/2007/10/21/qa-ezra-sacks-on-writers-guild-strike/ Last question: === NewTeeVee: What about the resistance to organized labor by technology entrepreneurs and independent productions? Sacks: Nobody could be more resistant to organization than Henry Ford was, and they got organized. It might have been ruthless, it might have been bloody, it might have taken twenty years, but a big group of people are not going to get ripped off and left unprotected. Now, maybe times are changing, I don't know. It depends on how satisfied people are who are working in new media. If they're happy working in that situation, I don't necessarily know if just because the guild wants to bring them in, they're going to bring them in. === The times, they area a-changin' --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's Jackson West's NewTeeVee article about the strike: http://newteevee.com/2007/10/19/wga-rank-and-file-authorize-strike/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin jannie.jan@ wrote: http://news.google.com/news?q=wga+strikeie=UTF-8oe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-aum=1sa=Ntab=wn The Google-collected WGA strike news, FYI. Jan On 10/20/07, Jan McLaughlin jannie.jan@ wrote: Way to go, Casey. Of course this medium will be unionized. Eventually. Is this a 'problem' for indie talent and technician? Or a blessing? Health insurance, retirement benefits, fiscal protections from abuse, etc? There either will or will not come a time when the things you produce are popular enough to sustain real livings for lots and lots of people. When that entertainment tipping point happens, why not provide yourself and the people you work with living wages and benefits? Serious talent wishing to cross over to MSM will be folded into unions; those who don't want to play in the MSM sandbox will stand outside, not looking in, but looking out to recruit new, hungry talent to feed the hungry long tail of entertainment. Jan On 10/20/07, Irina irinaski@ wrote: very nice i'm really intrigued by the strike in LA it seems like we online can never be touched by something like that but i hear i am totally wrong On 10/16/07, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: I could not miss the following article as it is currently given prominence on the Guardian main page: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/oct/16/digitalvideo Touches on issues such as 'the unions are coming' which is certainly something I expect to cause a few nightmares for some in the future. Probably wont affect people who dont use any outside talent in their videos so much for now, but in the longterm the existing 'professional' entertainment industry is certainly going to want to get in on the act. Cheers Steve Elbows -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Individual Email | Traditional http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: New stuff from a Flash showcase
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was posted to another group. Upcoming stuff in Flash. http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2007/10/03/adobe-max-chicago-sneak-peeks/ The guy (Peter Elst) has a lot to say on his blog, may be worth a bookmark to some. http://www.peterelst.com/blog/ Wow, the animation (muscles, bones) and other features of Flash 10 are something. -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Flash 9 Usage
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I looked on the Adobe site for Flash Player Version Penetration. The September 2007 penetration shows at 93.3%. This leads me to think that the penetration is high enough to switch to developing in Flash 9 (Actionscript 3.) I'm wondering if people on the list are on Flash 8 or lower? And if so, the preference for that? ive never installed or updated Flash that I can remember. Does Flash do this for automatically? Yes, if you hit a site that has Flash 9; it will offer to automatically update. Like http://www.kyte.tv -- Enric Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/2aodyc RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
[videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.
Good news! And a useful example of defending against bogus DMCA take down notices. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like Antonio won against KSDK! His account and his 500+ videos have been reinstated, read about it here: http://www.pubdef.net/2007/10/pubdef-wins-fight-with-ksdk- youtube.html Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter bill@ wrote: A local St. Louis video blogger, Antonio French, has had all his videos pulled from YouTube after a Local TV station sent a take down notice to YouTube. The video they sent the take down notice was a report that he had posted where they promised a follow up to a story about an alderman on the take and then didn't. Antonio French had posted this video to show how answers were promised and then posted the follow-up report to show that the question of who the alderman was, was never answered. To me it looks like a clear case of fair use because he was using the videos to comment and critique them. You can read more about what has happened to the rest of his videos on his blog at http://pubdef.net A word about Antonio French He started his blog Pub-Def as a newspaper reporter frustrated by the lack of depth in local political reporting in St. Louis. He started posting videos to his blog after he saw what I was doing with Lo-Fi Saint Louis. His reporting is very good and has broken several stories that have been followed up in both local and national main stream media. He's become an important source of information on the activities of local government and a vocal critic of local main stream media. He doesn't really make much money with Pub Def (short for Public Defender) but the cost overhead of doing it is so low that he doesn't really need to make that much money at it. He's exactly the kind of grass roots journalist that our little media revolution has made possible. He's currently moving all his videos to Blip.tv (something I suggested he do months ago.) But I can understand why he wanted to continue to use YouTube because it's so well known and has so much traffic. Anyway I thought that this story was relevant to the discussion here especially in light of the Hip-Hop Violinist story, as some of the circumstances are similar. If you get a moment go check out some of the work he's doing at Pub- Def and if you have any ideas about how he might go about dealing with this issue I'm sure he would be open to hearing them. But I also wanted to introduce him to the group (he's not a participant here) because I think that the kind of work he is doing is really important. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net
[videoblogging] Flash 9 Usage
Today I looked on the Adobe site for Flash Player Version Penetration. The September 2007 penetration shows at 93.3%. This leads me to think that the penetration is high enough to switch to developing in Flash 9 (Actionscript 3.) I'm wondering if people on the list are on Flash 8 or lower? And if so, the preference for that? Thanks, Enric
[videoblogging] Re:Miro
The first question to ask for any product including applications is does the customer want it? Not, should the customer want it. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: desktop aggregators are cold. On 9/28/07, Patrick Race [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the idea behind Miro and I'm very supportive of the project but I'm like Bill. I test to see that my feeds work every week or two and don't use it as a core application. It just hasn't become one of those natural transitions in my computer use pattern and I think it's probably because a lot of what it does I'm already doing through my browser. Does anyone here use Miro as a core application and if so was it a conscious effort to adopt it or did it just slowly become a program you use? I think I might use Miro more if it had a commenting system built in or some more give and take. It maybe needs more give and take. It might be too much of a one way street right now. Pat http://akrobotics.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: September SF Video Edit
Cool. I'm going to ask people who come to spend some time sharing their editing methods. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Enric, This is great. I love it. At PodCamp Philly participants in my session produced, acted in, and shot a video, then edited it on the big screen with everyone watching and giving feedback as I edited. It was fun. I like this idea. --Steve On Sep 17, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Enric wrote: SF Video Edit is coming up on Saturday 9/29 from 4 pm - 11 pm at Citizen Space, 425 Second St., #300, San Francisco. Sign up and location information is on upcoming.org: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/227422/ Wiki for SF Video Edit is at: http://www.sfvideoedit.org/index.php It's a free opportunity to edit your project with others around. Standard Inform: === Most people edit alone, now you have a choice. Inspired by SuperHappyDevHouse and SuperHappyVlogHouse is SF Video Edit. SF Video Edit is a monthly gathering of editors at a location. Like SuperHappyDevHouse it's unstructured (at least for now) where you can choose to: + Work on your edit by yourself with others around; or + Go over edits with others who are around; or + Watch someone else edit, give suggestions and get ideas; or + Learn how to build a blog to showcase your videos; or + Take a break, have a drink and talk with someone. Yes, beverages will be provided and a projector (Mac only connection to screen your versions of your edit. But you'll need to bring your own computer editing system (or a friend who has one.) If you're not in San Francisco and would like to start you're own, please do ;) -- Enric -==-
[videoblogging] Re: September SF Video Edit
Sorry, wrong upcoming.org entry. It's this one: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/266628/ -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SF Video Edit is coming up on Saturday 9/29 from 4 pm - 11 pm at Citizen Space, 425 Second St., #300, San Francisco. Sign up and location information is on upcoming.org: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/227422/ Wiki for SF Video Edit is at: http://www.sfvideoedit.org/index.php It's a free opportunity to edit your project with others around. Standard Inform: === Most people edit alone, now you have a choice. Inspired by SuperHappyDevHouse and SuperHappyVlogHouse is SF Video Edit. SF Video Edit is a monthly gathering of editors at a location. Like SuperHappyDevHouse it's unstructured (at least for now) where you can choose to: + Work on your edit by yourself with others around; or + Go over edits with others who are around; or + Watch someone else edit, give suggestions and get ideas; or + Learn how to build a blog to showcase your videos; or + Take a break, have a drink and talk with someone. Yes, beverages will be provided and a projector (Mac only connection to screen your versions of your edit. But you'll need to bring your own computer editing system (or a friend who has one.) If you're not in San Francisco and would like to start you're own, please do ;) -- Enric -==-
[videoblogging] Re: video blogging / facebook / myspace / you tube
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gena, so very few want something different these days. Most are content with the usual stuff (garbage) found on YouTube. I find it disheartening that there are so few interested in content that may be regarded as alternative vlogs. Trying to reach out to those few is a lonely task. 1 hit here. 1 hit there. Very few return. I do cherish those that come back again and again though. Those that return are generally people that I now call friends. It may just be my form of an alternative vlog that people dont find interesting? I dont know? If I knew that, your post of When to let it go... would be easier to answer. Regardless. My employer found my sites yesterday and I've been informed that if I want to keep working there, I needed to remove them (my sites). Strict corporate policy of no blogs. Yes...I know I know. It's not a blog. They dont care. It's close enough to being one. I guess I will be making my decision as to what I am going to do over the weekend. I cant afford to be jobless and my site doesnt earn me a living. Does your blog have to do with your work? If not, how can a company tell you how to behave outside of your worktime? If the blog doesn't relate to your work, you may want to contact the EFF about this: http://www.eff.org/about/contact/ -- Enric Any ways...yeah. Go the Social Media way and not have a site or have your own site and run it the way you want? I would always recommend that one have their own site and control their own destiny. You can always steal a little here and there from these social media sites and incorporate it into your own site. That's always an option. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena compumavengal@ wrote: Not everyone wants base level content. We have that on M$M. Part of our job is to connect with those folks who do want something different. (I'm especially talking to you David Howell!)
[videoblogging] Re: video blogging / facebook / myspace / you tube
Ahh, yahoo concatenates email addresses. Here's the EFF contact info with @ replaced with [at]: Contact Information For all other inquiries and information, please contact us via the appropriate e-mail address below, or by mail, fax or phone. San Francisco Main Office Address:Phone/Fax Numbers: Electronic Frontier Foundation 454 Shotwell Street San Francisco CA 94110-1914 USA Phone: +1 415 436 9333 Fax: +1 415 436 9993 Washington, DC Marcia Hofmann and David Sobel Address:Phone/Fax Numbers: 1875 Connecticut Ave NW, Ste 650 Washington, DC 20009Phone: +1 202 797 9009 Fax: +1 202 797 9066 Email Addresses membership[at]eff.org For membership, donation, corporate giving or matching gifts information press[at]eff.orgFor media inquiries action[at]eff.org For issues or problems relating to the Action Center or Action Alerts webmaster[at]eff.orgFor website problems or suggestions (not Action Center) information[at]eff.org For questions, requests, or misc. queries --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the information on the EFF contact page: Contact Information For all other inquiries and information, please contact us via the appropriate e-mail address below, or by mail, fax or phone. San Francisco Main Office Address: Phone/Fax Numbers: Electronic Frontier Foundation 454 Shotwell Street San Francisco CA 94110-1914 USA Phone: +1 415 436 9333 Fax: +1 415 436 9993 Washington, DC Marcia Hofmann and David Sobel Address: Phone/Fax Numbers: 1875 Connecticut Ave NW, Ste 650 Washington, DC 20009 Phone: +1 202 797 9009 Fax: +1 202 797 9066 Email Addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED] For membership, donation, corporate giving or matching gifts information [EMAIL PROTECTED] For media inquiries [EMAIL PROTECTED] For issues or problems relating to the Action Center or Action Alerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] For website problems or suggestions (not Action Center) [EMAIL PROTECTED] For questions, requests, or misc. queries Business can have contracts that don't hold up in court. Signing an illegal contract does not make it binding. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell taoofdavid@ wrote: My sites dont have anything to do with work. However the policy states that employees are not allowed to have blogs. Nothing further detailing what type of blog employees are not allowed to have. Just a blanket statement. I knew that when I signed the policy and agreed to it. My own fault. I take full responsibility. I'll have to check that link out once I get home as according to Websense here at work...The category Advocacy Groups is filtered. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com Does your blog have to do with your work? If not, how can a company tell you how to behave outside of your worktime? If the blog doesn't relate to your work, you may want to contact the EFF about this: http://www.eff.org/about/contact/ -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: video blogging / facebook / myspace / you tube
Here's the information on the EFF contact page: Contact Information For all other inquiries and information, please contact us via the appropriate e-mail address below, or by mail, fax or phone. San Francisco Main Office Address:Phone/Fax Numbers: Electronic Frontier Foundation 454 Shotwell Street San Francisco CA 94110-1914 USA Phone: +1 415 436 9333 Fax: +1 415 436 9993 Washington, DC Marcia Hofmann and David Sobel Address:Phone/Fax Numbers: 1875 Connecticut Ave NW, Ste 650 Washington, DC 20009Phone: +1 202 797 9009 Fax: +1 202 797 9066 Email Addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED] For membership, donation, corporate giving or matching gifts information [EMAIL PROTECTED] For media inquiries [EMAIL PROTECTED] For issues or problems relating to the Action Center or Action Alerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] For website problems or suggestions (not Action Center) [EMAIL PROTECTED] For questions, requests, or misc. queries Business can have contracts that don't hold up in court. Signing an illegal contract does not make it binding. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sites dont have anything to do with work. However the policy states that employees are not allowed to have blogs. Nothing further detailing what type of blog employees are not allowed to have. Just a blanket statement. I knew that when I signed the policy and agreed to it. My own fault. I take full responsibility. I'll have to check that link out once I get home as according to Websense here at work...The category Advocacy Groups is filtered. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com Does your blog have to do with your work? If not, how can a company tell you how to behave outside of your worktime? If the blog doesn't relate to your work, you may want to contact the EFF about this: http://www.eff.org/about/contact/ -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: video blogging / facebook / myspace / you tube
Well I wish you the best of luck in your decision either way. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. I work for a company where I am privy to vast amounts of personal and financial information for both individuals and enterprises. My assumption is that they dont want that information to be published on blog sites for anyone to see. So, to guard against that I guess, they say the employees arent allowed to have blogs. A rather archaic method, to say the least, of preventing an information leak on such a grand scale that a blog would provide. Personally I think it's just a way for them to get their rocks off in thinking they have full control over our personal lives. I in no way understand why their rules are thus however if I break those rules, as it states in the policy I signed, I would be dismissed from my position. Again. I take full blame and am taking the weekend to decide if I really want to work for a company that treats it's employees this way. I cant afford to be unemployed however this might just be the kick in the arse that pushes me into the freelancing world full-time rather than evenings and weekends. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf inthecity@ wrote: There's something strange about your company unilaterally blocking advocacy groups, but I haven't the foggiest what you do, and have never worked somewhere with content filters so maybe it's all a bit more common than I realized. You state that the company policy is no blogs. What exactly is the purpose behind this ban? Would you be prohibited from writing a letter to the editor? Publishing a paper-zine? Making your own films that were distributed through traditional means? It's all a bit puzzling, you know? Josh On Sep 14, 2007, at 9:31 AM, David Howell wrote: My sites dont have anything to do with work. However the policy states that employees are not allowed to have blogs. Nothing further detailing what type of blog employees are not allowed to have. Just a blanket statement. I knew that when I signed the policy and agreed to it. My own fault. I take full responsibility. I'll have to check that link out once I get home as according to Websense here at work...The category Advocacy Groups is filtered. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com Does your blog have to do with your work? If not, how can a company tell you how to behave outside of your worktime? If the blog doesn't relate to your work, you may want to contact the EFF about this: http://www.eff.org/about/contact/ -- Enric [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: FireAnt acquired by Odeo
Good to hear things are working well for you. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today it was announced that FireAnt's software and technology http://GetFireAnt.com was acquired by SonicMountain, a company that also recently acquired Odeo http://odeo.com (see: http://tinyurl.com/3bbpsg). I've been asked to join the new team, serving as VP of Product Development, and will be heading up FireAnt's transition (among other projects) as we re-launch everything under the Odeo brand later this year. First of all, I want to say Thank You to everyone in the videoblogging community who supported FireAnt along the way, especially Jay Dedman, Daniel Salber, Erik Radmall, and Clint Sharp, who were instrumental in launching this project. We met a lot of wonderful creative people, and made some really important lifelong friendships. It's been an amazing privilege to contribute to this dynamic and innovative community, and especially to have been involved from such an early stage. I also want to thank Jonathan Weiss, Drew Reynaud, and Jesse Boley who continued FireAnt's technology development over the past year, which was demo'd at Video on the Net in March 2007. When we first launched ANTs Not TV at Vloggercon in January 2005, there were about 20 active videobloggers â we knew each of them personally and worked with most of them to create those magical RSS feeds with enclosures. It was amazing to see all these video channels updating over time and to watch them in a unified experience. There was nothing else like it. It was clear that something powerful was happening. It was a new kind of television, and yet it was not like TV at all â it was open to anyone and the possibilities seemed endless. And it began to spread⦠thanks to the many talented and creative video producers, educators, and evangelists. While FireAnt had its share of struggles along the way as a start up, I'm encouraged that the ideas we helped pioneer have grown incredibly stronger over the past few years. This Not TV (now more often called Internet TV) is really changing the media culture, and it's having profound social effects. The medium is enabling new voices and conversations. The playing field is being leveled â the barriers between Internet TV and TV are disintegrating. So it's up to us to create what we want to see and share⦠We don't have to rely on Rupert Murdoch and Sumner Redstone to create our culture. Thank goodness! I look forward to watching your videos (and subscribing!). When I get back to producing a more regular videoblog (or whatever it's called), I hope you'll subscribe and leave me a comment :-) Best, Josh - http://JoshKinberg.com
[videoblogging] Re: thanks!! and vpip
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Rein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enric! Thanks for coming to my show Sunday! :-) Thank you; it was fun to listen to music and meet friends. Hey i have some questions for you re: vpip: 1) is the share the same as the embed code? or is that a way to email things. The share button provides embed code that lets your videos travel from web page to web page. 2) can you play windows media files? Yes, also QuickTime, Flash and Ogg. 3) what's the embed code for vpip itself vPIP is available from http://vpip.org ;), Enric thanks! lisa
[videoblogging] Re: Jonny's Par-tay Double Feature: Jay Dedman Kathryn V. Jones, this Weds
Could these shows be put on upcoming.org or another service that let's you click to add to your calendar? -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9-10PM Eastern, Weds Sept. 12 The first half hour will feature media iconoclast Jay Dedman who is wondering now that it's gotten easy to make stuff, what we're going to make. The second half of the show will feature Kathryn V. Jones who is poised to debut 35 a scripted, plot-driven, live web video dramatic series next week. Jay and Kathryn are people who push the edge. Come out on the edge with us and par-tay. As always, you are the biggest part of the par-tay with the live chatroom (and if you get an operator11.com account, we can get you into the mix via your webcam too). More details here: http://tinyurl.com/39opxh
[videoblogging] vPIP 1.12c Beta bug fix release
If you got vPIP 1.12a or 1.12b, this release fixes bugs in sharing the embed code. You should download this release soon so the bug doesn't propagate to sites sharing your video vPIP embed code. Get this version at vPIP: http://vpip.org/ To download this version with ShowInABox go to: http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/ and get The Whole Enchilada For usage instruction see: http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_vPIP http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion About vPIP -- vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after the viewer clicks on the link. Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one. The supported video (and audio) formats are: * Quicktime o .mov o .mp4 o .mp3 (audio) o .smi or .smil o .3gp * Windows Media o .avi o .wmv o .asf o .wma (audio) * Flash o .swf o .flv o Ogg o .ogg o .ogv o .oga ;), Enric -===- http://www.cirne.com http://www.vpip.org
[videoblogging] vPIP 1.12 Beta (with a new share video embeds) available
The major change is in sharing Wordpress vPIP video embeds. It has been simplified and extended. Simplified in that your entire vPIP embed layout is provided in the embed share code. Extended, so that the shared code includes the share embed option (button and code.) So if you have a popular video it will just continue to travel as people pick it up and embed it from site to site... As normal, you can get the new version at vPIP: http://vpip.org/ To download this version of vPIP with ShowInABox go to: http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/ and get The Whole Enchilada For usage instruction see: http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_vPIP http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion About vPIP -- vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after the viewer clicks on the link. Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one. The supported video (and audio) formats are: * Quicktime o .mov o .mp4 o .mp3 (audio) o .smi or .smil o .3gp * Windows Media o .avi o .wmv o .asf o .wma (audio) * Flash o .swf o .flv o Ogg o .ogg o .ogv o .oga ;), Enric -===- http://www.cirne.com http://www.vpip.org
[videoblogging] Re: vPIP 1.11b Beta interim release
I've added Ogg support to the .ogv and .oga extensions in vpip.js. And it will be in the next release. I don't think cortada.jar cares about extension, but the internal format -- so it should work with them. Someone can specify any file with or without extension in the Vlogsplosion Ogg media entry text box and it should take it. That's true for all the media entry areas. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Enric, On 8/31/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The supported media (video audio) formats are: * Quicktime o .mov o .mp4 o .mp3 (audio) o .smi or .smil o .3gp * Windows Media o .avi o .wmv o .asf o .wma (audio) * Flash o .swf o .flv o Ogg o .ogg Could you make it so Ogg can also handle the .ogv extension. (In addition of .ogg) (It's detailed here: http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/MIME_Types_and_File_Extensions ) Because some software can only tell types based on extension... the people at Xiph decided to start using .ogv for video (and .oga for audio, etc). .ogg still works too... and you should still support that too... but you don't know what it is based on the extension. (It could be video, it could be audio, it could be something else.) (You'd have to have an HTTP Content-Type available, or probe the file.) See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ Vlog Razor... Vlogging News http://vlograzor.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: vPIP 1.11b Beta maintenance release
I'll have another release probably before next week that fixes a bug in the embed code (if you have ThickBox off it still puts the embed code to use ThickBox, but with the ThickBox script reference missing.) And the embed code will match the layout of your vPIP entry with it's own share-embed option. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Enric, I'll have Jen Simmons update my page real soon! Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bug in the Wordpress version of vPIP was found that can appear under some circumstances where older posts have the vPIP Vlogsplosion entries messed up. This has been fixed in the 1.11b release now available. If you installed a version after 1.10 and before 1.11b, it's advised to install this release. vPIP wordpress download and install page: http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Wordpress_Install included with ShowInABox: http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/ ;), Enric Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing, Travel, Craic and Cocktails www.jchtv.com - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11b Beta maintenance release
A bug in the Wordpress version of vPIP was found that can appear under some circumstances where older posts have the vPIP Vlogsplosion entries messed up. This has been fixed in the 1.11b release now available. If you installed a version after 1.10 and before 1.11b, it's advised to install this release. vPIP wordpress download and install page: http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Wordpress_Install included with ShowInABox: http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/ ;), Enric
[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11d Beta maintenance release (was Re: vPIP 1.11b Beta...)
Oops, that should have said vPIP 1.11d Beta maintenance release ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bug in the Wordpress version of vPIP was found that can appear under some circumstances where older posts have the vPIP Vlogsplosion entries messed up. This has been fixed in the 1.11b release now available. If you installed a version after 1.10 and before 1.11b, it's advised to install this release. vPIP wordpress download and install page: http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Wordpress_Install included with ShowInABox: http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/ ;), Enric
[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11b Beta interim release
This interim release enhances the embed code options. You can now set the text of the share button title. And you can turn of CSS styling for the embed code area so you can style it yourself. The list of classes to style is in the documentation: http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion To download only vPIP go to: http://vpip.org/ and select the document page for where you'll be installing vPIP. To download this version of vPIP with ShowInABox go to: http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/ and get The Whole Enchilada For usage instruction see: http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_vPIP http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion and http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Playing_Flash About vPIP -- vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after the viewer clicks on the link. Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one. The supported media (video audio) formats are: * Quicktime o .mov o .mp4 o .mp3 (audio) o .smi or .smil o .3gp * Windows Media o .avi o .wmv o .asf o .wma (audio) * Flash o .swf o .flv o Ogg o .ogg ;), Enric -===- http://www.cirne.com http://www.vpip.org
[videoblogging] vPIP 1.11 Beta (Ogg support share video) available
The main features of this release is being able to play Ogg video with the included cortado Ogg player. And on wordpress you can share the embed code of your videos so viewers can embed the video on their sites. To download only vPIP go to: http://vpip.org/ and select the document page for where you'll be installing vPIP. To download this version of vPIP with ShowInABox go to: http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/ and get The Whole Enchilada For usage instruction see: http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_vPIP http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion and http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Playing_Flash About vPIP -- vPIP (video Playing In Place) dynamically embeds a link video after the viewer clicks on the link. Web pages load quickly with just image and text links. Then when the viewer clicks one of the links, it's replaced with the video. Clicking on another link closes the prior video and opens the new one. The supported video (and audio) formats are: * Quicktime o .mov o .mp4 o .mp3 (audio) o .smi or .smil o .3gp * Windows Media o .avi o .wmv o .asf o .wma (audio) * Flash o .swf o .flv o Ogg o .ogg ;), Enric -===- http://www.cirne.com http://www.vpip.org
[videoblogging] Re: Unrealistic Expectations Of Social Media
Not --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who is watching it? On 8/24/07, bordercollieaustralianshepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched it when it first launched. Slick, well funded. Good production. From what I remember of my first visit/impression, the joke was funny, but I didn't think Sands of Passion would sustain itself. I was wrong. Passion did not make me want to return. Could be my age, or my Cialis and Riddlin cocktail had worn wore off that day. Maybe I didn't like the burkas. I am a jeans and T-shirt guy. I dropped in when the link was posted again, but the quick look was all. Did not launch a video to see what, where it had changed. So when you asked again, I took a quick trip over this morning and the site loads so slow I resorted to the cache to have a look (I often load a new page in the background so do not know how long it took to load yesterday). It is not loading either. My third impression is that it just ain't for me. Younger people maybe (obviously people are watching it). Looking back at my chat archive first impression was: the future of television and I liked state of the union but I summed it up (as if my opinion matters) not really ready for prime time My friend's response: Oh This is funny and Oh this is soo good To each his own. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Irina irinaski@ wrote: did any of you watch NationalBanana? anyone? On 8/22/07, schlomo rabinowitz schlomo@ wrote: True; this has all happened since I made the initial post to the group. The web moves fast!! To the group, who may not read all those emails, ConvergeSouth took away his spot but later offered him a slot to discuss what must be earth-shattering issues that pertain directly to Feldman. The conference felt that his How To session would be overshadowed by Feldman's controversy... which may have happened, but honestly, I don't think it would have... but what do I know. Feldman is still declining the offer, thinking that he would just be walking into some sort of trap. So basically, Feldman and ConvergeSouth have agreed to disagree. Like sand in the hourglass, these are the days of our lives. Schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://weknowhow.tv http://winkshow.com http://hatfactory.net On 8/22/07, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytaylor@thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com wrote: Read the comments. All of them. Converge South, in the end, IS inviting Feldman, but to lead a session about the controversy itself. Organizer Ed Cone says that they want the focus on the videoblogging session to be on teaching people to videoblog, and not be sidetracked by the issues surrounding Feldman. http://www.1938media.com/convergesouth/ On 22/08/07, Enric enric@ enric%40cirne.comenric%40cirne.com wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroup s.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd bordercollieaustralianshepherd@ wrote: http://www.human-dog.com Hope they create a test pattern. Heck I may create a test pattern. Anything with Dog can't be all bad. I have a soft spot for tongue in snout humor. Funny. Kinda Hitchcock in the delivery. Anyone with Sir starting their name garners my attention. I would pay to see this guy fighting indecency on the big screen. Does he have a sidekick? Live in a cave (dumb question, people don't use Venetian Blinds in a cave). Does he travel the world or only the web? So many questions. Cape or Spandex or both? What is he vulnerable to? Tea and Beggin Strips Dog Treats? Group Moderator, could you put this video clip http://www.dltq.org/human-dog/dltq-intros/decencylogo.mov Ha! I think that's the original source from Raymond. ;) on the Home page of this group, even just for a day? Can a Video of the Day be a feature of this site? Just a idea. Sir Dave --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroup s.com, Enric enric@ wrote: Yes, I was tempted to say during the Loren discussion that the League of Decent Vloggers has come into being: http://www.human-dog.com/lab/?p=147 http://www.zudfunck.com/zudfunck/files/SirEdmundTwott.mov -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: Fwd: Chris Brogan has invited you to Spock
Watch out for the Mind Meld! http://tinyurl.com/2hvoln ; --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: N karma is a biatch -- Forwarded message -- From: Spock Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 23, 2007 3:51 PM Subject: Chris Brogan has invited you to Spock To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Future Spocker, Chris Brogan http://www.spock.com/users075132k26p9728c3kc16scc82k491s69269has invited you to check out Spock, a new search engine that organizes information around people. Click herehttp://www.spock.com/do/public/signup/media%40geekentertainment.tv/00c79386f96db4b3f62bb6f9923aa94bda0be04dto start searching on Spock for yourself and people you know. Thanks! The Spock Team Unsubscribe: http://www.spock.com/do/public/request_unsubscribe -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Marriage
That's really cool, Josh. Thanks for including in your Marriage. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't usually promote videos here on the list but over the past 2+ years, this group has become an important part of my life. So I thought i would share another important part of my life with you... My Wedding and more: http://tinyurl.com/2yntxf it isn't the whole wedding (thought i did have 4 cameras filming it) but it is a nice taste of what happened that week... thanks -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com www.SlowLorisMedia.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: for Podtech re: racist posts by Loren Feldman and lack of responsibility
I found Lukewarm Ghetto Snooze, http://www.podtech.net/home/3699/lukewarm-ghetto-snooze has insightful points on cultural criticism. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I for one, as a young(ish?) Black man who has devoted my life to representing hip-hop, I hope to counteract such ignorance with each of my videos at illdoctrine.com. And since I'm also a PodTech partner, whose videos appear alongside 1938media's on PodTech's entertainment page, I specifically posted my latest video to counter the bilious idiocy of the technigga clip: http://www.illdoctrine.com/2007/08/krs_one_how_to_see_your_future.html Didn't want to give that video any further publicity by acknowledging it, so I tried to offer a more genuine example of what hip-hop can look like, and what the young people (Black and otherwise) who represent it can sound like. For the record, I've met Loren Feldman and he seemed to be good people, and I usually enjoy his videos. But he made a grievous error on this one, and the ensuing rehab schtick does nothing to justify it. If anything it just adds insult to injury, as he maneuvers to evade accountability for his hateful provocation. Such an ugly and silly game to play, like kicking someone and then telling them they're stupid for saying ouch. jay smooth illdoctrine.com --- stbdpittsburgh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gena mentioned the following point: There will be other videos like this. What can we do as a community or individuals to make our anger know? We have choices of finding new paths. Which makes me wonder... Where are the proactive videos in response to this? If we're all so up in arms about the issue, why not create videos that disprove Loren's perceived theory about black / hip-hop culture? (That is, rather than petitioning PodTech (whom, a week ago, everyone wanted to pillory for withholding cash from Lan Bui and firing Irina Slutsky) to now exercise some form of acceptable behavior by censoring a video on their channel...) I know, I know -- people shouldn't HAVE to defend themselves from this kind of biased attack. But, if left unchecked... Cheers. Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz
[videoblogging] For Dan McVicar (was Re: Loren Feldman )
Lenny Bruce, offensive humor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPlQyk37dwI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXMIOADkVKg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvS4BcJ2lFo Dustin Hoffman as Lenny: http://tinyurl.com/2dtx2o --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh..it's comedy...like the guy that plays Kramer was doing comedy. So, I'm supposed to not feel offended now? You're not alone. Is the intent to offended. Where is Podtech on all of this? 1938 Media has a content deal with Podtech, correct? No blog post or comments from Scoble that I saw (quick scan only..feel free to point me to them) ...so either black folks dont even the the courtesy of some honest public outrage from the most prominent tech blogger or...(gasp).. it must be ok then... you know...wink...wink..nudge..nudge..we are outraged...really...take our word for it. I'm asking myself why I even need to type this Why is it PodTech keeps getting spanked by some in here? Residual outrage? Easy target? Hidden agenda? Following that logic, we should be writing to the ISP's and demanding Loren's access denied, PodTech's servers shut down. That leads to other services where the video might land. And all the immature posted comments many of us do not agree with? Report them too? We could be at this for years, chasing the cause/effect threads that would start. Here is/was a chance for Scoble and Podtech to really take a public stand on something that not only matters but also seems under their control to at least tangentially provide consequences. I mean something more substantial than just not blogging for a couple of days. Loren has every right to freedom of speech...but he doesnt need to do it as part of the business relationship with Podtech... Use freedom of speech to deny freedom of speech. I am at my wits end with another thing with a similar loop. If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. ... this sentence format is showing up all over the place. In church...Honor God and God will honor you. In politics .. I was listening to the Senate and one of them used this circle speak to make a point about the war or health care. Podtech - do the right thing and permanently sever the business relationship then publically say why. That would only brush the larger issue(s) under the rug? Loeren (the idiot or genius - and I am being sarcastic until the details are clear) is censured/removed, Podtech apologizes. Everything is back to normal. Comfortably Numb? I am going to reserve judgement at least another week. See how all of this plays out. I thought the tin foil hat someone posted was a wild take. Imagine if it was a big we punk'd you stunt. If it turns out that this is an ill-conceived, poorly executed, window to his soul video, I will be disapointed. Until then, at least it is a catylist for change. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Zenophon Abraham thisiswar3005@ wrote: Hey Irina and all, Dan speaks for me; I for one don't understand -- or want to -- this need to express racism via this medium. I also remind all that the American Psychiatric Association does consider racism a mental illness like depression. Zennie --- Irina irinaski@ wrote: out of all the hullabahoo, daniel mcvicar sums it up best for me in what he wrote below. On 8/5/07, danielmcvicar danielmcvicar@ wrote: Loren Feldman's post was wrong, terribly wrong. His followup piece playing the rehab card, tongue in cheek, was a dismissal of any responsibility that he may have for putting this poison out. This 'satire is destructive, and serves no purpose. It is also, for me, a negative reflection on Podtech. I sent John Furrier a message suggesting that Podtech cut ties with 1938media. I think it is the right thing to do for them, because they are besmirched by association. I am also dismayed by the comments that appeared on 1938media from snickering people with pseudonyms that continue the lousy and abhorrent jokes. That is how poison is spread, how racism gets perpetuated. I wish Loren Feldman all the best, but I do not want this racist humor to be part of my life or of my community. _ -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] \ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
[videoblogging] Re:Loren Feldman = Technigga
Well, Loren has a new video up today, http://tinyurl.com/ypgxm6 or http://www.1938media.com/statement-from-loren-feldman-in-rehab/ It's a take off on Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange, http://tinyurl.com/3d3kr4 or http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualVideoID=12650242 http://youtube.com/watch?v=89GSUhzT3Ow My impression is that Loren is satirizing the modern ritual of: faux-pas, condemnation, followed by attempted redemption in a drug clinic. My view is that human beings are so similar (even though before the modern era somewhat separated by locale) that drawing any conclusion on individuals by race isn't tenable. What I do think is going on is a earlier, tribal view of the world. A view where the tribe that's somewhat different across the hill is in competition for limited resources. And discrimination makes some sense in that earlier -- but by evolutionary standards very recent -- period. So we have this tribal bagage -- we can supress it, laugh at it, condemn it, etc. But, I think we're stuck with dealing with it and it's problems. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JayVivid th Orignal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Humor is subjective. But there certain universal things that everybody get even in race jokes. Richard Pryor was revered because he told the truth without exaggerating the truth or perception of it. Even Chris Rock has his moments. Paul Mooney is another great comedian and comic writer. It seems when non-white try to do race humor they rely to heavily tired ol' stereotype that's a throwback to slave days, jim crow and blaxploition era with superficial updates. The stuff that only closet bigots, redneck and neo-nazi's would think is funny and edgy.(before folks start jumping to reply. I'm not talking about the guy's video in question but I'm talking in general) If one is truly funny, it will come across naturally without forcing it. Real good race humor should be able to cross cultural lines and expose a hypocrisies or satirically pokes fun on both sides.in overtly demeaning. Like saying hey world looked the fucked up things we both do or say. Could someone explain being a complete and jerk is funny. Is this a cultural thing that I am missing. Please fill me in on the joke because its not shading new light or serving a constructive purpose. Unless the purpose to have folks openly talk about beside surface dressing conversation. Ok I know this is a videoblogging group and I expect to hear everything from pc to non-pc to neutral moderate. A reflection of conversation that goes on or should say doesn't go on. The topic of race is an optional lunary. Most folks can care less until it affect directly. (just my modest opinion) Has used video in a meaningful way to illustrate cultural differences and similarities. (I'm ahead of the game. Someone going to say why don't you create this video. I would but I lost my only camera so I'm working my azz off o get a new one.). Now that is truely edgy and revolutionary. If say somethings something funny and makes me say damn thats kind of fucked up but its still funny and I can admit to that observation if it has a smidgen of truth to it.. If its funny and not overt;y racist I will give a god comedian his/her props. No amount of think skin is going is going to make me tolerate race humor that is bad and purely mean-spirited. Then again, if you think being mean-spiritness is edgy.. With a saturation of the over-the-edge shockjocks, I guess that's what some folks is funny nowadays. Like they say different strokes for different folks. P.S. If you want to see race humor done right go see the movie Talk to Me starring Don Cheadle. It's based on the radio disc jockey in DC names Petey Reeves. Matter-of-fact, go to YouTube and you will a clip about how to eat watermelons thats deeps but thought-provoking. I spoil for you, just go and see and laugh your head off. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] August SF Video Edit
The next SF Video Edit is coming up on Saturday 8/25 from 4 pm - 11 pm! It's a free opportunity to edit your project with others around. Standard Inform: === Most people edit alone, now you have a choice. Inspired by SuperHappyDevHouse and SuperHappyVlogHouse is SF Video Edit. SF Video Edit is a monthly gathering of editors at a location. Like SuperHappyDevHouse it's unstructured (at least for now) where you can choose to: + Work on your edit by yourself with others around; or + Go over edits with others who are around; or + Watch someone else edit, give suggestions and get ideas; or + Learn how to build a blog to showcase your videos; or + Take a break, have a drink and talk with someone. Yes, beverages will be provided and a projector (Mac only connection to screen your versions of your edit. But you'll need to bring your own computer editing system (or a friend who has one.) Sign up and location information on upcoming.org: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/227422/ Wiki for SF Video Edit: http://www.sfvideoedit.org/index.php If you're not in San Francisco and would like to start you're own, please do ;) -- Enric -==-
[videoblogging] Re: Loren Feldman = Technigga
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren Feldman = Technigga http://1938media.blip.tv/file/326972/ Wow, funy! -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Publicity or lack of, old and new
The course of the future manifestation of a technology is hard to know. Ideas popular at the time that people subscribe to and set as standards such as transparency, end of privacy, elimination of copyright, etc. may turn out prophetic, overblown or some combination of both. Evolution sorts out what works and doesn't -- the success is usually there at the time, but usually not noticed. But obvious later. Keeping eyes open and not entrenched in a set of ideas I think is a good approach. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of different discussions recently have got me thinking about publicity. It strikes me that its become one of the weaker links, it hasnt evolved like the ease of use, technology distribution stuff has. I dunno, perhaps I would expect the various network/distribution/guide companies to do more to try to promote themselves beyond the web2.0/silly con valley/early adopter crowd, perhaps they do try but its not easy. I jusst think that if I actually had a show, I would be looking for a partner that could deliver some real value by actually being able to do a decent job of promoting the show. Now this does tie in to distribution, ie if you get on various settop or mobile networks featured in their on screen guide, some more people will find you. But even on that front Ive not often seen the vlog-related new networks make that many tie-ups with these networks. Heck its really unclear what the reality is out there because there are plenty of positive stories with huge $ numbers attached to these things, but hard to see where its actually happening in reality. Oh I dunno, it just strikes me that companies that expect to make money through advertising, need to find ways to advertise themselves better to the masses. Im conflicted on these points, as I hate many forms of advertising, and the net is supposed to have all sorts of new ways that people will find your content if they are interested, and various new forms of pblicity, concepts such as something going viral (as opposed to fake viral marketing). Ive long believed that the 'death of the music industry' predictors were ignoring the fact that just because the rules of distribution can change against established giants advantage, this does not automatically kill their ability to advertise their stuff, and get the mass customers needed to make the thing profitable. Im also aware that some could say these things are a quality issue, if there were more shows out there that were 'must watch' to the majority of people, news of them would spread like wildfire, the people would find them for themselves. It may be true, I dunno, its a brave new world and Im not sure if we are there yet. In any case it seems that so far there are a few different types of companies out there that have emerged and could be interesting partners for vloggers. Whether they succeed or fail could depend just as much on keeping the right things from the old ways of doing business, as which elements of web 2 they adopt. Maybe some companies have assumed the web will do their publicity for them, and been mistaken, or at least not realised quite what a narrow section of humans their marketing efforts have reached. But does this mean Im calling for some of the qualities of an old style TV network to be brought to vlog show business, when I previous reacted with horror and venom to such concepts? I dont know, I suppose at least in so much as I always found Channel Frederator rather watchable and yet it feels like a TV channel in some ways. Cheers Steve Elbows
[videoblogging] Re: new ways to distribute your shows
I found the band interviews (only saw the Slash Duff McKagan so far) pretty interesting: http://www.mydamnchannel.com/channel.aspx?episode=50 -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mydamnchannel.com/ There isnt a huge amount of content yet, mostly warm-up trailers, but I found it quite watchable so far as its fairly tongue-in-cheek. eg: http://www.mydamnchannel.com/hotmentalfreedom.aspx (start your way to a bright non-compensated career in content generation lol) http://www.mydamnchannel.com/channel.aspx?episode=76 http://www.mydamnchannel.com/channel.aspx?episode=100 Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ed Smith edd66@ wrote: Hi, do you have a link to MY Damn Channel? Thanks, Edward SmithOffer 2 Free life-coaching sessions with an experienced, reputable life coach to purchasers of your book or product, at no cost to you. A proven way to increase your product sales and offer a $250 value to your customers, with no catches. Contact Theresa Smith at 201-568-0019, email, tsmith@ or visit http://brightmoment.com/coaching.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Use Flash 9?
According to Adobe's March, 2007 stats, http://tinyurl.com/zzftm or http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html Flash 9's penetration is a bit above 83% (while Flash 8 is above 96%). I'm still coding and encoding in Flash 8, but see more and more sites requiring Flash 9. Are most of you who encode Flash doing Flash 9? Thanks, Enric -===- http://cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: Thankfully People Keep Trying
Quite accurate. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't want to add much more to any of this, except to respond to Chris and Enric that I don't want what happened on this group to be characterised as people lynching, thrashing, whatevering Podtech. Podtech made a mistake, people called on them to do the right thing - they didn't. And they didn't communicate. It dragged on. Podtech dug their own hole. We called them on their behaviour, and people here were remarkably mature, balanced and restrained. Along the way, separate to the discussion here, there were a couple of cheap personal shots at Robert Scoble that were ignored. And there was a stupid article published by a writer from a valley rag, who doesn't participate in this group (and someone told me he says he hates videoblogs/videobloggers) - he said something like because people have been begging for it as an excuse to use this group to promote his poorly researched, bitterly-toned article. I haven't seen many people here begging for anything like that. Part of the reason this all happened, Chris, is because a lot of people thought about Podtech as you do. I was disappointed and irritated by their actions and indifference to people's concerns - even to people's friendly advice. Hopefully, they'll get their shit together on their PR and attitude - they seem to be already - and we'll all be better off for it. Rupert On 28 Jul 2007, at 19:50, [chrisbrogan.com] wrote: I'm sorry to see PodTech taking a thrashing in here. I understand the different viewpoints, from what I've read (not first hand), but from my perspective, they were out there trying some new things and looking for a way to make the bridge for people who wanted to make their video work a business. Again, not saying anything about the deals and any breakdown in intentions. My point is simply this: it was nice to see another company out there taking a swing at making a viable business out of these new media creation methods. Watching this group is interesting, because it's this Creature Cantina of various opinions, perspectives, goals, and aspirations. Some folks just want the medium to be free and open and about personal communication. Others are trying to build next-generation TV. Some are working on business models. Others could give a rat's ass if they see a dime from their video work. And yet, we all still come here to hash it out, to learn, and apparently, to crap on people. Thankfully, people keep on trying. --Chris Brogan... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Silverlight TopBanana editing
Beau Amber of Metaliq demos the online Silverlight editing app, TopBanana (windows media video): http://tinyurl.com/ywa3cz or http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/5/0/85096922-090d-4dfa-96b6-f74810411973/FullCut2.wmv info: http://www.metaliq.com/portfolio/silverlight.html http://www.visitmix.com/Blogs/Joshua/beau-ambur-of-metaliq/ -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: Thankfully People Keep Trying
Wonders if the idea of transparency is becoming for some a unquestionable good idea that allows any type of behavior toward people running a business. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crapping on people isnt a totally negative thing either though. Some truths can be lost if people are always afraid to be negative, and one mans crap is anothers fertilizer. For sure it may not be the best of human nature, but it is real and companies and individuals who want to embrace the new open communication methods of the net, should learn to live with being crapped on, and if at all possible come to see it as something positive. Respect is a strange concept, and the internet shines light on this, on the gulf that often exists between the respect people think they deserve, and what they actually get. Companies feeling they're getting no respect from those they are trying to help, others feeling like the company doesnt respect them because of the way it went about such and such. Not fun, but not necessarily unconstructive either. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [chrisbrogan.com] group@ wrote: I'm sorry to see PodTech taking a thrashing in here. I understand the different viewpoints, from what I've read (not first hand), but from my perspective, they were out there trying some new things and looking for a way to make the bridge for people who wanted to make their video work a business. Again, not saying anything about the deals and any breakdown in intentions. My point is simply this: it was nice to see another company out there taking a swing at making a viable business out of these new media creation methods. Watching this group is interesting, because it's this Creature Cantina of various opinions, perspectives, goals, and aspirations. Some folks just want the medium to be free and open and about personal communication. Others are trying to build next-generation TV. Some are working on business models. Others could give a rat's ass if they see a dime from their video work. And yet, we all still come here to hash it out, to learn, and apparently, to crap on people. Thankfully, people keep on trying. --Chris Brogan...
[videoblogging] Re: I compiled a list of PodTech's latest meltdowns
I don't understand the rationale for the extent of the attack on PodTech. While they've made mistakes, bumbled and are somewhat inept. For some to wish that a company that's funding videobloggers being able to do their work should fail doesn't make sense to me. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nick Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Enric! Corrected. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric enric@ wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nick Douglas nick@ wrote: Just 'cause some people keep begging for it: PodTech: The meltdown of the Valley's worst video network http://valleywag.com/tech/podtech/the-meltdown-of-the-valleys- worst-vid\ eo-network-282475.php I don't believe in writing purely negative forum posts. So: In other news, I'm addicted to pancake sandwiches. They are so tasty and eggy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] You may want to correct your facts about Loren's media on PodTech: http://www.podtech.net/home/category/entertainment/1938-media/ -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: I compiled a list of PodTech's latest meltdowns
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nick Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just 'cause some people keep begging for it: PodTech: The meltdown of the Valley's worst video network http://valleywag.com/tech/podtech/the-meltdown-of-the-valleys-worst-vid\ eo-network-282475.php I don't believe in writing purely negative forum posts. So: In other news, I'm addicted to pancake sandwiches. They are so tasty and eggy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] You may want to correct your facts about Loren's media on PodTech: http://www.podtech.net/home/category/entertainment/1938-media/ -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: video coverage of Laughing Squid: Paradise Lost
I'll shoot. http://tinyurl.com/2jufuq http://tinyurl.com/2regdz ;), Enric -===- http://cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Scott Beale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, we are looking for a couple of people to shoot some video at our big Laughing Squid: Paradise Lost event this Saturday in San Francisco. We'll give you free admission, a Laughing Squid t-shirt and a couple of drink tickets. The video would be for our archives, but of course you can use it however you want as well (we don't need any kind of exclusive rights) and if you want to edit something together, even better. Oh and we can pay for tape stock as well. Here's more info on the event: http://laughingsquid.com/laughing-squid-paradise-lost/ We're also looking for a few lifecasting cyborgs to show up as well. Scott -- Scott Beale primary tentacle, Laughing Squid website/blog: http://laughingsquid.com hosting: http://laughingsquid.net squid list: http://laughingsquid.com/squidlist/events/ photos: http://laughingsquid.com/photo/ squid: http://squid.us
[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement
OK, I see your point. And I'll backup and say that I don't agree with an organization requiring a creator to give up their right to negotiate commercial compensation for their work. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think wikipedia is run by a non-profit foundation, but there is also a commercial arm called Wikia. Here is a page that explains wikipedia's policy on this stuff in more detail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content So as other indicated, it boils down to their feeling that non-commercial restrictions make stuff not free enough to fulfil wikipedia's mission. Im not sure about the whole contradiction thing, because those 2 policies are related to quite different aims. It isnt that content of wikipedia itself should not be original content (eg your own words), but that it should not be original research, should be verifiable. We can clearly have a nice debate about the pro's and cons of these particualr wikipedia policies, eg the sorts of sources they accept was a particular annoyance to many, but I dont quite understand how it relates to the licensing issue. Because if I wasnt useless and I actually wrote some words about something on wikipedia, those words would be my own and Id be giving wikipedia the right to use them under a certain kind of free license, just as you are being asked to do with a photograph. Both the words and the photograph are original in the sense that we create them, and they dont want to rely on fair use to let others use them, but make sure we are giving them freely. Wheras the whole 'no original research' etc stuff is more about what the words actually say and the photo actually shows. Me drawing a picture of Lily Tomlin and submitting it to that article might be the equivalent of people adding their own original research to an article, Im not sure, and in definately not sure how it relates to the licensing issue. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron andrew@ wrote: Wikipedia is a business. Sent via CrackBerry -Original Message- From: Enric enric@ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:17 To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement I understand the concept of Free as in Freedom (I read the book and have read The Cathedral and the Bazaar.) The contradiction I see is in disallowing original source contribution to Wikipedia articles while allowing commercial usage of original source material in Wikipedia without compensation. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote: Hey Enric, On 7/14/07, Enric enric@ wrote: [...] Why does Wikipedia require commercial use of someones contributed media work? This reason has to do with some of the philosophy (or whatever you want to call it) behind Wikipedia. When they talk about Wikipedia being a Free encyclopedia... they are talking about Freedom. (Not free as in gratis. Or free of charge.) Basically... long story short... the NC part of a CC license makes it non-Free (as in Freedom). Which is why they don't accept NC stuff. (I can explain in more detail if you'd like.) See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog. http://ChangeLog.ca/ ca/ All the Vlogging News on One Page http://vlograzor. http://vlograzor.com/ com/
[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fair enough, it is a very difficult balancing act, this business of how free peoples work should be. You would lose the ability to negotiate compensation for a whole range of uses, but still retain it for others. Most of these licenses are similar to the share-alike part of creative commons, if someone is reusing your work, commercially or not, they can only do so if their new derivative is shared with everyone under the same terms. So people who wanted to reuse your work in other ways, would still need to do a deal with you. But yeah, its still a bridge too far for many people, which is fair enough. Is it easier for something like software, compared to photos and video? Yes, software has the ability to multiply in quality and capability as more people add features and capabilities to it. Media does not seem to have that exponential property in re-use. It does gain in different perspectives -- but the multiplying quality of a Mona Lisa, David, etc. does not appear to exist. Media (and Art) seems to mainly be unique to the creative qualities of an artist. Im a fan of vpip and am meaning to check out showinabox, looks great. What licenses are they released under? vPIP is LGPL which makes it open for commercial use -- similar to Wikipedia's media submission requirement. Show-In-A-Box is Jay Dedman's initiative and he's probably the main person developing it's focus. I don't think they have a license requirement (yet). You should check with Jay. As a coder, Charles Iliya Krempeaux is more involved in Show-In-A-Box than me right now. There's usually the right for others to make some cash in specific ways using opensurce software, as long as they are bound to other conditions, so Im interested in how your attitude to that stuff compares to the wikipedia photo issue. My view is that freedom is predominantly individual -- a real person not an abstraction. Which means the lack of restrictions on the ability of a person to create and make a livelihood out of their creative capabilities. It's fine for an organization to recommend a person give up the ability to negotiate commercial compensation. I disagree with requirements that compels people to do that. -- Enric For me the best balance of this freedom issue is that other have the right to use work in a variety of ways, some of which may be commercial, just so long as the original creator still has some other ways to profit from the work if thats what they desire. Its not perfect, but at least this stuff is more honest than all the entities we've seen that try to get round this issue by pretending they are non-commercial, when they clearly arent. Somewhere on the wikipedia pages about thsi stuff, the even mention that being non-profit does not always equate to being able to rely on being considered non-commercial, from a legal point of view. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric enric@ wrote: OK, I see your point. And I'll backup and say that I don't agree with an organization requiring a creator to give up their right to negotiate commercial compensation for their work. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: I think wikipedia is run by a non-profit foundation, but there is also a commercial arm called Wikia. Here is a page that explains wikipedia's policy on this stuff in more detail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content So as other indicated, it boils down to their feeling that non-commercial restrictions make stuff not free enough to fulfil wikipedia's mission. Im not sure about the whole contradiction thing, because those 2 policies are related to quite different aims. It isnt that content of wikipedia itself should not be original content (eg your own words), but that it should not be original research, should be verifiable. We can clearly have a nice debate about the pro's and cons of these particualr wikipedia policies, eg the sorts of sources they accept was a particular annoyance to many, but I dont quite understand how it relates to the licensing issue. Because if I wasnt useless and I actually wrote some words about something on wikipedia, those words would be my own and Id be giving wikipedia the right to use them under a certain kind of free license, just as you are being asked to do with a photograph. Both the words and the photograph are original in the sense that we create them, and they dont want to rely on fair use to let others use them, but make sure we are giving them freely. Wheras the whole 'no original research' etc stuff is more about what the words actually say and the photo actually shows. Me drawing a picture of Lily Tomlin and submitting it to that article might be the equivalent of people adding
[videoblogging] Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement
I got a flickrmail asking if a photo I took of Lily Tomlin, http://www.flickr.com/photos/cirne/140992347 could be used in her Wikipedia article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Tomlin and if so, then to put a CC license of only Attribution on it. Now this seemed strange to me because that photo (and most of mine) are already licensed as CC Attribution+Share-Alike+Non-Commercial. Wikipedia is non-profit, so why would this license be a problem. But then when I checked the submission requirements, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Replace_this_image_female.svg it states: If you hold the copyright to an image (e.g. you photographed or drew it yourself) and would like Wikipedia to be able to use it, you will need to release it under a free license, such as the GNU Free Documentation License or the Creative Commons Attribution or Attribution/Share-alike licenses (versions 2.5 and earlier), which allow everyone to use, alter, and redistribute your work for any purpose, including commercial use. Do not use this form for images found somewhere on the Internet or created by someone else. Why does Wikipedia require commercial use of someones contributed media work? -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement
Just seems a contradiction to me that Wikipedia doesn't allow contributions from original sources as in the Vlog article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlog Where community entries were taken out. But then they want to allow profit from original sources. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been asked to do the same thing on a few photos which I've done. The reason is anyone can take wikipedia and use it commercially. For example, a lot of http://www.answers.com is wikipedia with ads. But I think the original purpose was to get wikipedia more widely distributed to people who don't have internet access (so articles could be put in a book, on a CD-ROM, etc). I can't find details with a quick search. -- Steve Rhodes http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://ari.typepad.com http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter.com/tigerbeat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Wikipedia allow commercial CC media contribution requirement
I understand the concept of Free as in Freedom (I read the book and have read The Cathedral and the Bazaar.) The contradiction I see is in disallowing original source contribution to Wikipedia articles while allowing commercial usage of original source material in Wikipedia without compensation. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Enric, On 7/14/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Why does Wikipedia require commercial use of someones contributed media work? This reason has to do with some of the philosophy (or whatever you want to call it) behind Wikipedia. When they talk about Wikipedia being a Free encyclopedia... they are talking about Freedom. (Not free as in gratis. Or free of charge.) Basically... long story short... the NC part of a CC license makes it non-Free (as in Freedom). Which is why they don't accept NC stuff. (I can explain in more detail if you'd like.) See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ All the Vlogging News on One Page http://vlograzor.com/
[videoblogging] vPIP 1.10 released and Vlogsplosion!
This release of vPIP is available from: http://vpip.org/ and from the Show In A Box download area for integration with Wordpress: http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/download/ The major feature of this release of vPIP are the Vlogsplosion capabilities for Wordpress. Vlogsplosion originates from Rudy's custom Wordpress theme capabilities at Galacticast that he published as UFOsplode: http://tinyurl.com/rzcq2 This became very popular which Michael Verdi implemented under the name of Vlogsplosion on many sites: RyanIsHungry, Swajana, AmandaAcrossAmerica, etc. But it was still a custom implementation that had to be hand coded on each site. So, Jay Dedman asked me and Michael to get together to create a modular version that could be relatively easily implemented by anyone who understood Wordpress. This became the first feature of the Show In A box suite of vlogging tools: http://showinabox.tv/ The parts of Vlogsplosion I implemented in vPIP is the custom enclosures as text boxes entries below where you write your post (see http://tinyurl.com/33ylff ) and the ability to create unique feeds (see http://tinyurl.com/2quopf ). Look at the Vlosplosion documentation on how these features work: http://tinyurl.com/2pyolh or http://wiki.vpip.org/index.php?title=Using_Vlogsplosion There are also significant changes in vPIP that apply to all platforms, not just in Wordpress: o ThickBox works now on IE6 Safari o 640x520 flash player that scales down to any smaller size. o Flash viewer, cirneViewer*.swf, controls automatically resize to vlog dimension specified in vPIP. o Only the video size needs to be set, the control size is added on. And the main part of the documentation has moved to a wiki: http://wiki.vpip.org Since there are bound to be errors and things I don't have time to cover in detail, please contribute to the wiki if you see something to add/change. The wiki uses MediaWiki, which I've exteneded to support anchor tags (a href...) and image tags (img src...). If you have questions on how to do this, let me know, and I'll document that. Finally, there's a google group for vPIP: http://groups.google.com/group/vpip Please join there to ask questions, provide answers, request features and get announcements on vPIP. ;), Enric -===- http://vpip.org
[videoblogging] Re: Help: Delete pics off Xacti from Mac?
Yes, Tony Katz told me about this problem. Deleting the files off the Xacti drive when connected to a computer does not delete them -- they're still there (I think invisible.) You should only copy the files to your computer. Then delete them from the menu in XActi. This may apply only to the earlier versions of XActi, I have the C40. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks, As some of you might have read, I switched to a Mac a couple weeks back. First off, and sorry Heath, but... I Love the Mac! When I have the Xacti hooked to the Mac and I delete the pictures, they go poof, gone. But did they? When I look at that Xacti through the Mac to the SD card in the Xacti, it is empty. But when I use the camera, all the video is still there. How do I delete (real delete, erase, gone from the memory card, poof, no more, gonzo.)videos on my Xacti USB camera, through the Mac? Thanks, Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net
[videoblogging] Video/Film summer camp
A friend is looking for a video/film summer camp/workshop in California for teens that his daughter can attend. Anyone know of any good ones? -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Video/Film summer camp
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 5, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Enric wrote: A friend is looking for a video/film summer camp/workshop in California for teens that his daughter can attend. Anyone know of any good ones? -- Enric Hey Enric, I don't know anything about these folks, but I had noticed their website sometime back http://www.dvcamps.com/ Apparently they have some here in Ojai as well as Santa Barbara and LA. Markus -- http://tools.ourmedia.org/blog http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Thanks! It may be a bit too high end for her -- she's 15. But, I'll pass the info. along. -- Enric
[videoblogging] Viddler text video commenting
Viddler has probably been mentioned here before, but I think it's very interesting how they've implemented text and video commenting in the video playback. Here's some samples I like: http://www.viddler.com/explore/ijustine/videos/117/ http://www.viddler.com/explore/ijustine/videos/118/ http://www.viddler.com/explore/plasq/videos/2/ -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com
[videoblogging] Vlogs Sponsorship Needs
I'm looking to work on the next version of PledgeDrive from the one Devlon created for Have Money Will Vlog, http://www.havemoneywillvlog.com/. This will be part of the ShowInABox system, http://showinabox.tv/wordpress/about/ Since this is something you, videobloggers, would be using, I'd like to describe the current idea for PledgeDrive and ask for comment and recommendations: Idea What is firmed up is that it will be a Wordpress widget that sits in the sidebar with a donate/subscribe image/icon. How I see the rest working is: Clicking the icon will bring up a page for filling in single payment or subscription. If single payment, then levels of payment or other entered amount is given. If subscription, then subscription levels or other entered amount is provided. Then, the period of payment (such bi-monthly, monthly, bi-yearly, yearly, etc.) is chosen. Proceeding goes to paypal where the payment is finalized and returns one back to the vlog. If a target amount is setup, then a meter can appear showing how close the donations/subscriptions are to fulfilling the target value. And a report of donors with their donated amount can be displayed to the blog admin(s). Examples Jay has provided me several examples of funding on the web: Robert Greenwald's BraveNew Films: https://secure.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/bnf/images/donate.jsp Democracy TV: https://www.participatoryculture.org/subscribe/ Kiva, loans that change lives http://www.kiva.org/app.php?page=businessesaction=aboutid=9582 SFT Olympics: https://secure.ga4.org/01/sftolympics I've looked at Galacticast sponsorthip, http://www.galacticast.com/support/sponsor/ which is amount with description to name. This is submitted to your paypal page. For rocketboom, http://www.rocketboom.com/sponsorship/ The option is to contact Rocketboom and detailed information and examples are provided of the benefits of sponsorship. And blip.tv is also working on a sponsorship model based on the duckies purchase system by Ze Frank. Feedback - What stands out for me on the net video sponsorship system is that they're very simple -- click an amount and give name and go to paypal or just send an email enquiry. So the clarity and simplicity of the payment/sponsorship system appears to be important. Also the ability to stylize the layout through CSS, choose images and descriptions for pyament choices. What recommendations for the PledgeDrive design do you have that make sense for videoblogging? This may be from sponsoring a vlogging activity like a a bike trip through the U.S., subscribing to a weekly drama, comedy, etc. show, funding a full length movie and so forth. So PledgeDrive would need to be flexible for a wide range of projects (some not yet thought of.) Also, since this involves money, should there be a standard disclaimer form included? Thanks, Enric
[videoblogging] Re: H.264 Also Dominating the iPhone
Michael Verdi is listed, but I think he has a conflicting event he'll be at and won't be at Web Video Summit. I'll be on the THURSDAY, JUNE 28 session E9: Your Web Presence: Designing Great Pages for Video from 2:00PM - 2:50PM with Eddie Codel, Producer, Geek TV; Jon Phillips, COMMUNITY and BUSINESS DEVELOPER, CREATIVE COMMONS; and Aza Raskin, President, Humanized. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Dave Burstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks The YouTube/Apple MPEG .264 is big news, and that will only be reinforced on June 29 when the iPhone comes out. I've confirmed with informed sources it's all designed around H.264. I'm doing a session in the paid part of Web Video Summit on that on June 28 - not yet on the web site. But I don't want to use this list to push a paid event. Much of WVS in San Jose is free, however, and I'd like to introduce it here. Many folks you know are in the free sessions (code DSL07) including Jen Gouvea, Documentarian, Echo Chamber PANELIST: Oscar Grimm, Producer, Freshtopia PANELIST: Justin Kan, Lifecaster, Justin.tv Moderator: Graham Leggat, Executive Director, San Francisco Film Society PANELIST: Schlomo Rabinowitz, Producer, Echoplex Park PANELIST: Irina Slutsky, Producer, Podtech PANELIST: Michael Verdi, Videoblogger, Freevlog -- If no one objects, I'd like to post information on the list about the free parts of the show, and also how Vlogger reporters and others can get in to the whole thing gratis. But I'm stopping this note here, to make sure I'm not overstepping the bounds of what's appropriate for this list. If people think it's wrong to promote the free parts of the event, contact me on or off-list and I won't do it. If no one objects, I'll modestly post some details later. Dave Burstein Editor, DSL Prime Conference Chair, http://www.webvideosummit.com/conference/sessionsbyday.php
[videoblogging] YouTube to have H.264 versions
From iLounge, http://tinyurl.com/2fq3t7 : = ...YouTube will soon be encoding videos in the H.264 streaming-efficient compression format preferred by Apple TV, and that all new videos submitted to YouTube as of the mid-June launch of the AppleTV update will be playable by the device. From then until fall, YouTube will be encoding its entire back-catalog in H.264 format, adding videos in chunks until everything is accessible to Apple TV users. Direct links and the on-screen keyboard-based search engine mentioned in our previous update will bring you to current and old videos alike = If available to all, easier to mash-up. -- Enric
[videoblogging] Videoblogging Flashmeetings
I'm going to stop for the time being booking flashmeetings. If someone else who has a booking account wants to continue, feel free. Thanks, Enric
[videoblogging] Saturday June 2nd, 2007 FlashMeeting
This Saturday, 6/2/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT. Go to this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/9ccc46-8544 For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Tuesday May 29th/30th FlashMeeting
The Tuesday May 29th FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 30th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/8b3d44-8543 You may also check the FlashMeeting page at flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Saturday May 26th, 2007 FlashMeeting
This Saturday, 5/26/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT. Go to this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/caa4a2-8542 For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: Where are you staying for Pixelodeon
I was thinking of joining someone else who has a car they want to take down since my auto has been around awhile. But, I may go ahead and drive down and back up. It's a Honda Civic so at most it fits 4 people and that's a bit tight, preferably 3. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking to share a ride (as in I won't have a car but can split driving and gas) to and from San Francisco and to share a room or other place to stay in LA. Thanks, Verdi On 5/23/07, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My buddy went to LA, last October and he told me most of the strip is a pit..I can't remember where they ended up staying but I know it wasn't on the strip... Heath http://batamngeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, David Howell taoofdavid@ wrote: I was considering staying there as well but after reading what Gena just wrote, well, hmm. Maybe not. Sorry. I know it's L.A. and this is my Midwest thinking here but $160 a night for a dive of a hotel is just too much to pay. I still have my airline ticket for now. Dont have a room booked yet. Cant afford paying $400+ for 2 days in a hotel room. Getting bummed that chances are where I will be staying will be too far away to make associating (the real reason I am going) with other vloggers feasible. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Enric enric@ wrote: I'm thinking of staying at the Days Inn Hollywood, 5410 Hollywood Blvd., Hollywood, CA, 90027. Anyone else staying there? Or any reason I shouldn't. Any tips appreciated. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Tuesday May 22nd/23rd FlashMeeting
The Tuesday May 22nd FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 23rd). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/82e866-8541 You may also check the FlashMeeting page at flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Where are you staying for Pixelodeon
I'm thinking of staying at the Days Inn Hollywood, 5410 Hollywood Blvd., Hollywood, CA, 90027. Anyone else staying there? Or any reason I shouldn't. Any tips appreciated. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com
[videoblogging] Tuesday May 15th/16th FlashMeeting
The Tuesday May 15th FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 16th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/956e07-8489 You may also check the FlashMeeting page at flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com Note: There will NOT be a Flashmeeting this Saturday since there are no available meetings for the upcoming weekend.
[videoblogging] Videobloggers press for Ruby on Rails Geek Session
If you're in the San Francisco area and would like to cover the Ruby on Rails GeekSession, they're accepting videobloggers for press credentials. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to request press access. The description of the event is http://www.zaptix.com/group/ geeksessions/ruby_event: == GeekSessions is about two things: smart people and free beer. We start with a panel of experts on a hot topic and follow with an open bar reception, complete with catered food and everflowing libations. Join us for our launch event on May 22: Ruby on Rails: To Scale or Not to Scale. Since hitting the ground two years ago, Ruby on Rails is sweeping the technology community by storm. However, critics note that Rails suffers from persistent problems with scalability, an issue that plagues the framework to this day. Can Ruby surmount the scalability challenge? To set the record straight, we're inviting four luminaries from the Rails community to speak on their experiences and answer questions from the audience. Our speakers hail from Twitter, Joyent, Sun, and Pivotal Labs, San Francisco's fastest growing agile development studio. Join us on May 22 from 6 to 9 PM at the elegant City Club in downtown San Francisco. Come for the panel, and stay for an informal catered reception (and open bar) to continue the discussion. = -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com
[videoblogging] Saturday May 12th, 2007 FlashMeeting
This Saturday, 5/12/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT. Go to this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/a6efec-8391 For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Tuesday May 8th/9th FlashMeeting
The Tuesday May 8th FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 9th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/68e0bc-8390 You may also check the FlashMeeting page at flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: Tuesday May 8th/9th FlashMeeting
Meeting in progress; come on by: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/68e0bc-8390 ;), Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Tuesday May 8th FlashMeeting is starting at 5:00pm - 7:00pm PST USA, 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST USA, 1:00am - 3:00am GMT (May 9th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/68e0bc-8390 You may also check the FlashMeeting page at flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Contributors on YouTube May Share Advertising Revenue
SAN FRANCISCO, May 4 Some of the amateur video producers who put clips on YouTube are turning pro. YouTube, the video-sharing site purchased last year by Google, said on Friday that it would begin placing ads alongside clips from some of its most popular contributors and share revenue from those ads with them. The program is small for now. Only 20 to 30 video producers, including YouTube celebrities like Lonelygirl15, HappySlip and smosh, have been invited to join - New York Times, http://tinyurl.com/yok7jl Red Herring, http://tinyurl.com/2fukpw -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: Sources and your stories
-==-==- http://youtube.com/watch?v=TRU6tQdyYqQ -==-==- --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Short version: Think 'what actions we can take to make the article decent' rather than 'what actions can we take against pat' or you will probably continue to be frustrated by wikipedia, approaching its processes from the wrong angle methinks. Long version: Whats come out of it is lots of good advise, some of which was given to you on wikipedia before the issue was ever brought to this group. These processes will go the right way for you more if you stop jumping the gun. Even the user review process is a process too far at this stage, from what Ive learnt so far. You've been advised to try that if user keeps editing things without explaining himself. But I think thats supposed to mean from now on, its already been shown that some wikipedians are agreeing with some of pdelongchamps historical edits, he doesnt seem to have much problem explaining them in was that seem in tune with wikipedias aims. So for me the earlier stages of dispute resolution are far more desirable, the first of which could be considering the possibility that the past will not repeat itself. If it does repeat itself, the proper ways to proceed are now known. The starting point now is dialogue on the articles talk page. When you are given advice about things surrounding obtaining concensus on the article, I assume that means people discussing it on the talk page. Forming a concensus on this list, for example, is irrelevent, in the same way an external group cant come here and tell us we've all got to wear chocolate underpants when posting to this group, because theres a concensus on this point elsewhere. If that doesnt work, then can go on to steps involving 3rd parties trying to moderate the dispute, and if they fail and people go mad and abuse the wiki at any point, some of these stronger procedures can be considered. If the history of edits was as bad as portrayed here, and it had been discussed a lot on the talk page, and 3rd party advice was sought and listened to, then the way these harsher processes panned out would of been different. I found it very useful to look at other users who were up for ban discussion, the histories of other disputes, and indeed the user review thing you are now referring to. I look at the cases in question and the level of alleged abuse, and compare it to what we are dealing with here, to see if this case seems to fit. One piece of advice I see you were given before things exploded onto this list, was to keep a copy of the article the way you would like it on one of your user pages, with a view to 3rd parties then helping it to be improved to the extent where it couldnt fall foul of justifiable edits, then some time later merging it with the real article. Its a shame that didnt happen. Its one of the reasons Im still posting here about such things, it makes me worry that the dispute is powered by some peoples alternative beliefs about what wikipedias policies should be, or a refusal to take on board legitimate reasons why your content may be deleted. If thats even partially true, dispute resolutions are unlikely to satisfy, spend energy on other wiki's with differing approaches as a constructive alternative to fighting an impossible battle? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser groups-yahoo-com@ wrote: Just and FYI... the vote isn't over on the banning issue... but at this point it mine as well be... what has come out of it is there are some other actions we can take against pat, a sort of user review process... I'll be there if anyone wants to pursue it, but I'm so sick of the whole thing I'm pretty much done with the whole issue for now. -Mike
[videoblogging] Re: Sources and your stories
God point ; --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point :) http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZdfVqNlEKFU Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric enric@ wrote: -==-==- http://youtube.com/watch?v=TRU6tQdyYqQ -==-==-
[videoblogging] Re: Saturday May 5th, 2007 FlashMeeting
Happenin': http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/d798df-8392 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Saturday, 5/5/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT. Go to this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/d798df-8392 For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Good and Bad RSS Syndication Practices
Dave Winer linked to this on Twitter: Todd Cochrane on good and bad re-syndication practices: http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007014.html text from blog entry by Todd Cochrane: == I have been asked by a number of people to list what I consider are good and bad RSS syndication practices. I reserve the right to modify this list as thoughts and ideas come in that I think are worthy of adding to the list. * Good things Media Sites do with Syndicated Content o Attribution with Hyper link back to Content Origin Point o Original RSS Feed clearly seen and linked to. o No other confusing RSS links are associated media listing o Audio and Video Media is not altered or trans-coded o Audio and Video Media is not cached direct link only o Publishing Author Name on Media Listing o Make Listing Opt In o Claim a Feed o Pay content producers a revenue share on site advertising. * Bad things Media Sites do with Syndicated Content o Auto adding content versus asking to become listed! o Replace RSS feed with sites own. o Pre-Roll or Post Roll ads in the syndicated sites media player! o Not allowing one to claim there own feed. o Not allowing one to opt out. o Not linking directly to the media file. o Not honoring Creative Commons License. o Add to Digg etc links that drive people away from original content point. o Trans-coding media into a new format without permission. == Many of these or all are the same as we've generated. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: flickr to support video soon
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, I was there when Stewart told us that. But, keep in mind that Stewart told me the same thing almost a year ago. So, we're still trying to figure out what his definition of soon is. That's the problem with listening to God. ;) :-) Robert _ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Rhodes Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:35 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] flickr to support video soon At the end of this post on yahoo photos shutting down Stewart says flickr will support video soon. http://www.techcrun http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/03/breaking-yahoo-to-announce-closure-of- yahoo-photos-tomorrow/ ch.com/2007/05/03/breaking-yahoo-to-announce-closure-of-yahoo-photos-tomorro w/ -- Steve Rhodes http://ari.typepad. http://ari.typepad.com com http://tigerbeat. http://tigerbeat.vox.com vox.com blogs http://flickr. http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ com/photos/ari/ photos http://del.icio. http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter. http://twitter.com/tigerbeat com/tigerbeat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogumentary (don't sue me Chuck Olsen)
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this is crazy but I feel like this whole Wikipedia thing has turned back time 3 years or something. Here we are trying to figure out what the rules are; what we're allowed to say; what will pass the litmus test. Oh the irony! I can't take it anymore. The idea of making a videoblogging piece similar in spirit to Chuck Olsen's Blogumentary has been floating around since at least the first vloggercon. What if we used our own wiki (with our own rules or lack of rules) to collect stories and videos (!) about the history of videoblogging? You can post stories, pictures, old videos, new videos, quote blogs and vlogs and your local paper - whatever you need to get the point across. Maybe some day someone will take all of that a make a film or a book out of it. If that happens we can add that to the wiki too! We don't have to come up with some ultimate definition of videoblogging that everyone agrees on. Just document what happened and what's currently happening. The definition can be found in there and can change as we change. Maybe we can even try not to delete each others stuff. If you disagree, write your own version of the events. Soon we'll all forget what happened; how it evolved and we'll either have something like this wiki to tell our history or we'll be stuck with whatever is allowed on Wikipedia or gets published in the real media. Good method. I'll start by documenting points about my vlogs and net video software. I'll try to be concise and salient. The problem may be that some will be long and promotional. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com We're videobloggers - we know how to do this. Check it out - http://vlogumentary.pbwiki.com - Verdi -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs
[videoblogging] Re: Request for user ban on Wikipedia videoblogging article
Now for something completely different ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everyone, I know there's about zero interest left in this. (i feel the same way, i would have dropped it a long time ago if it weren't for my wiki account on the chopping block) Just wanted to report that the Ban Request has been closed with results pasted below. Thankfully, if anything good came out of this it's that there's some good discussions going on in the talk page and the article has gained a lot of sources. I'd like to get a third party Admin to check out the article in a week or so and give us some tips comments. Hopefully, someone'll throw in some book citations. Good weekend and let's hope for a calmer Monday. Community sanction discussion Well, what I see there, in for example this edit[1], is the example of dictionary definitions and a link farm. I'm sure you were trying to help, but that edit really *would* need a lot of improvement. Wikipedia is not[2] the dictionary, though we do have a sister project, Wiktionary,[3] which you might wish to look at if you want to write dictionary definitions. Also, please note that, to be quite frank, I couldn't care less who any of you are, up to and including if you invented the Internet. We write from reliable sources,[4] never our own knowledge, thoughts, or experience[5], so it really doesn't matter a bit who an editor is. If Linus Torvalds[6] came along to edit the Linux[7] article, he'd *still* be expected to source. (And deal with me asking about a few bugfixes. But that's a different story.) From what I can see, Pdelongchamp has been doing a great job keeping laundry lists[8], dictionary definitions[9], material sourced to blogs, and such things out of the article. You'd probably not do badly to *listen to him*, and work at improving the article. Most of the material I can see that Pdelongchamp is removing really isn't acceptable. - Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:16, 4 May 2007 (UTC) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_blogdiff=127290390oldid=127280521 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RS [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOR [6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds [7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:LAUNDRY [9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DICDEF *Comments after looking at the evidence* Being sensitive to your concerns I have to ask you guys from groups.yahoo.com/vlogging - have you read policy documents before coming to Community sanction noticeboard? First off if members of the yahoo group are working to support each other this is a breach of Wikipedia:Sock puppetry:Meatpuppets[1] and a serious one - Single purpose accounts[2] are not encouraged. Second although Pdelongchamp didn't mention it there is a possible Conflict of interest[3] problem here - authors or those associated with them should not be adding their books to wikipedia - this site is not for self promotion. I haven't seen one reason to block Pdelongchamp. The diff I see here[4] is an example of proper editing practice - removal of original research[5]. The only issue I could have with Pdelongchamp is their slight failure to assume good faith[6] but this is not a blocking offence. I do think Pdelongchamp deleted too many external links from this version [7] - I would have deleted 80% of them and kept Citizens do media for themselves, BBC Technology TV Stardom on $20 a Day, New York Times 'Vlogger (noun): Blogger With Video Camera, The Wallstreet Journal The next big thing: vlogging, Times Online, UK - but only if they were worked into the article. As far as I can see there is no malicous intent from, no wrong doing by and no need for sanction against Pdelongchamp. However I do think there should have been more of a compromise on both sides. Mmeiser was trying to improve the article, he was going about it wrong but the edits seem to be good faith Mmeiser the vloggers, you should have requested comment[8] in order to build a consensus[9] on the talk page or in the very least Mmeiser should have taken User:Adrian_M._H[10]. advice and created temporary page[11] in their userspace. User:Adrian_M._H[10]. has made a trojan effort to mediate between Pdelongchamp and Mmeiser I recommend that this block request be withdrawn and Adrian_M._H's advice taken forthwith. As an uninvolved party I would be happy to host a temp rewrite page in my userspace if this is of assitance to both sides -Cailil talk 01:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Meatpuppets [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Single_purpose_account [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_blogdiff=nextoldid=106060604 [5]
[videoblogging] Saturday May 5th, 2007 FlashMeeting
This Saturday, 5/5/07, FlashMeeting is coming up. The starting time is 10am - noon PST USA, 1pm - 3pm EST USA, 17:00-19:00 GMT. Go to this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/d798df-8392 For future and past meeting check the FlashMeeting page at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers
Wikipedia for credibility and to compete with established encyclopedias like Encyclopaedia Britannica, requires citation from authoritative sources. This is usually established media sources like New York Times, Time Magazine, ABC News, etc. People working on new developments on the net like Videoblogging are by it's nature going to be ahead of authoritative media and will initially be misrepresented. The development of net media are moving so fast and compete with the prior media, resulting in a tendency to be misrepresented in the prior media. So sticking strictly with Wikipedia's policy of authoritative citation will by it's nature misrepresent videoblogging. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Markus, I don't have a vlog anymore but I used to do cookingkittycorner.blogspot.com As you can see from the results from the ban attempt, I have in fact been trying to stick up for the vlog article. It was changes i made to the article nearly a year ago that saved it from getting deleted. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_blogdiff=70288801oldid=70288758) Since then, I've asked people to source their contributions. (a wikipedia core content policy) The vocal people in this group seem to be misdirecting their frustration with Wikipedia policy towards me. The content Mmeiser had been trying to reinsert ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_blogdiff=125328951oldid=124431636) into the article was the content that almost got the article deleted nearly a year ago. As much as Mmeiser is upset that I initially supported the deletion (because I agreed with the reasoning behind the nomination) I instead decided that the information could actually be turned into something valuable and did research and made changes. Changes that saved it from getting deleted. I hate to say this but if I had left Mmeiser alone, the article would probably have been deleted over and over again since then. Wikipedia has policies. Anyone can edit it but there's only a select kind of information that can go into it. People claim i've been making disruptive edits and dicking with the article for a year now. I challenge them to read the wikipedia definition of disruptive edits. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing) Has anyone really looked at the evidence to determine if it is in fact Mmeiser who has been putting up with me for a year or if it is instead the other way around? (see my defense in the ban request) I would be happy to explain any specific edit I've made if a link of the edit is provided. I can't really defend accusations that i've deleted everything for the last 2 years which is terribly inaccurate. pd On 5/3/07, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI Patrick, When I saw your initial post, I thought why is he posting in the wrong thread? and then I looked more carefully and got your joke. When you posted the text version, I thought is he now spamming? But I assume you have a different default char set than me and hence the funny characters in the first version of that email. You've pissed off a number of group members and friends and so I can't help but wonder what kind of person you really are. Do you have a vlog? Not a requirement of course. I'm just wondering if I can see you or your work anywhere. Markus On May 3, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Patrick Delongchamp wrote: Hey Mike, I didn't mean for it to seam like you were threatening me. Sorry. It was just meant as a lighthearted reflection of the topics currently being discussed in the group. pd -- http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers
Very useful approach. When I find time, I'll do that. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who wants to go through the 3 vlogging books written by this community and then jsut cite them in the wikipedia entry. isnt that all we have to do? I am sure that they devine vlog in there along with some od the genres etc right? where are all those academic papers folks have written? arent those reliable sources? let's just cite the heck out of it with sources we actually trust instead of using a magazine article written in 5 minutes... let's work together to follow wikipedia's rules but keep what we as vloggers know this new medium to be On 5/3/07, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Markus, I don't have a vlog anymore but I used to do cookingkittycorner.blogspot.com As you can see from the results from the ban attempt, I have in fact been trying to stick up for the vlog article. It was changes i made to the article nearly a year ago that saved it from getting deleted. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_blogdiff=70288801oldid=70288758 ) Since then, I've asked people to source their contributions. (a wikipedia core content policy) The vocal people in this group seem to be misdirecting their frustration with Wikipedia policy towards me. The content Mmeiser had been trying to reinsert ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Video_blogdiff=125328951oldid=124431636 ) into the article was the content that almost got the article deleted nearly a year ago. As much as Mmeiser is upset that I initially supported the deletion (because I agreed with the reasoning behind the nomination) I instead decided that the information could actually be turned into something valuable and did research and made changes. Changes that saved it from getting deleted. I hate to say this but if I had left Mmeiser alone, the article would probably have been deleted over and over again since then. Wikipedia has policies. Anyone can edit it but there's only a select kind of information that can go into it. People claim i've been making disruptive edits and dicking with the article for a year now. I challenge them to read the wikipedia definition of disruptive edits. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing) Has anyone really looked at the evidence to determine if it is in fact Mmeiser who has been putting up with me for a year or if it is instead the other way around? (see my defense in the ban request) I would be happy to explain any specific edit I've made if a link of the edit is provided. I can't really defend accusations that i've deleted everything for the last 2 years which is terribly inaccurate. pd On 5/3/07, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] markus.sandy%40mac.com wrote: HI Patrick, When I saw your initial post, I thought why is he posting in the wrong thread? and then I looked more carefully and got your joke. When you posted the text version, I thought is he now spamming? But I assume you have a different default char set than me and hence the funny characters in the first version of that email. You've pissed off a number of group members and friends and so I can't help but wonder what kind of person you really are. Do you have a vlog? Not a requirement of course. I'm just wondering if I can see you or your work anywhere. Markus On May 3, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Patrick Delongchamp wrote: Hey Mike, I didn't mean for it to seam like you were threatening me. Sorry. It was just meant as a lighthearted reflection of the topics currently being discussed in the group. pd -- http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com www.SlowLorisMedia.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Video Blog Wikipedia Entry
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Den 02.05.2007 kl. 16:38 skrev Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there anyone besides me, that thinks this whole conversation is just whacked? I mean basicly we are trying to appease a person who no longer even VLOGS! Does this seem weird to anyone? I understand trying to work with someone, trying to teach, but this just seems crazy..maybe it's just me Videoblogging is not a prerequisite for talking, caring and having knowledge about videoblogging. Mathematics is not a prerequisite for formulating, understanding or knowledge about physics? -- Enric -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/
[videoblogging] Re: Video Blog Wikipedia Entry
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of Crowdfunding though I had moved the article here for anyone interested in editing it: http://crowdfunding.pbwiki.com/ and this is a cool project that has recognized Crowdfunding and is looking for people interested in this topic to research, write and edit material. It is a joint project between Wired.com and NewAssignment.net. Congrats, Sull! -- Enric http://zero.newassignment.net/assignmentzero/crowdfunding Who needs wikipedia! ;) Sull On 5/1/07, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sull, It may seem discouraging to have your content deleted but I've had conversations with you in the past on the importance of verifiability. Yes, I nominated 'Crowdfunding' for deletion. However, other editors voted and agreed that it should not be a wikipedia article. It didn't contain any sources, the topic was non notable by Wikipedia standards and the article consisted entirely of original research. (A violation of Wikipedia's core content policies) See the discussion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Crowdfunding You also failed to mention that the 'Crowdfunding' article has been deleted on 2 other occasions in which I had no involvement or knowledge of. Yes, Mmeiser and I have been in an edit war over the Video blog article's content for many of the same reasons. For months I have tried to discuss the encyclopedic reasons for removing original research, indiscriminate links, and the need to cite content from the article. As responses, I received long, ranting, personal attacks and he refused to address my encyclopedic reasoning. What hasn't been mentioned yet is how Mmeiser recently sought the help of a Wikipedia Administrator. The result was not surprising. a) The administrator did not reinstate the content. b) On the contrary, the administrator cited the important of verifiability and suggested to Mmeiser that he try editing content on a separate page and have me look it over and give him suggestions before he place it into the article. (an extreme I still don't think is necessary as long as he uses citations when making contributions) I tried to extend an olive branch and asked that we work together constructively to reintroduce the content with sources. (what i had been trying to do all along) He, once again, wrote a long rant, made personal attacks, and announced he was through contributing to the Video blog article. To date, Mmeiser has contributed a total of one verifiable piece of content to the article. (which i have never deleted) It's sometimes difficult to read a long emotional argument like those of Mmeiser without being moved to feel the same emotions. This is what I assume happened when I was called pathetic, a loser, a troll, etc by group members earlier. Unfortunately, for Mmeiser and some others in this group, personal attacks don't carry much weight in civilized discussions regarding encyclopedic content. Since the yahoo group discussion began, we've had three people contribute encyclopedic content to the article: Ruperthowe, Bullemhead and myself. For the amount of discussion we've had in this group, I'd like to see more happening to the article. Let's keep improving it. I'm want to get some third party comments in a week or so after we've done some work on it. Patrick On 5/1/07, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] sulleleven%40gmail.com wrote: that user was also responsible for the deletion of my article 'Crowdfunding'. and yes, meiser has been battling for months. fucking wikipedia. i dont have the time nor patience for such games. On 4/29/07, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED]michael%40michaelverdi.com michael%40michaelverdi.com wrote: This user - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pdelongchamp - constantly fucks with the entry (deleting everything useful in it). It's pathetic. I can't believe Meiser still has the patience to try work on the article as his changes usually get deleted within hours. - Verdi On 4/29/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]jannie.jan%40gmail.com jannie.jan%40gmail.com jannie.jan%40gmail.com wrote: Has rather been decimated. Wow. Anybody? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlog Jan -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/fauxpress [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed
