[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo Day 19
But it does take talent, it's not just moments stitched together, you said so yourself in this post... It's the eye, it's a way of seeing the world in a way that no one else sees it. Croma has this gift, you do, Michael, Jay, David Howell, and quite a few on this list. Heck quite a lot on this list actually... I don't have that eyeI have moments, but by and large I don't. It's not to say that I don't like my video's, I do, well most of them, but the point is that to make great video's is still not easy. The tech side of it, the ability to capture footage, edit it and post it, is easy but to know which moments to capture, to edit them in a way that tells a great story...those do still take a certain degree of knowledge and talent. That should not discourge people from posting or creating, do this because you want to, do this because you can. Someday this could all be taken from us, use it now Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rup...@... wrote: For me, this has been the most important aspect of videoblogging - it's most unique contribution to film art. I'm being delberately grandiose about it, because Jay's video reconnected me today like a sharp slap to the face. However pretentious you may think this sounds, I really believe that it's carrying forward and reinventing the tradition of observational documentary filmmaking that can be traced back through Direct Cinema, Cinema Verité and Kino Pravda all the way to the Lumière brothers' first films. Jay is always modest about the skill at work in his videos. And I guess to the casual observer it might be easy to see his technique as just clips pasted next to each other. Truth is, he has a great eye for shooting - each clip tells a focussed story of some kind - and he has great instinct for editing them together, giving them shape and rhythm. But when he says, the only skill it takes is actually being aware enough to record when things are happening around you - at some level, that's true. Because he doesn't need any advanced editing skills to cut the clips together the way he does - or any experience in writing or graphics. Instead, he has the confidence to avoid artificial manipulation through music, effects, narration, even transitions. He lets the moments speak for themselves. I know that a lot of people worry that their videos of life need music or other seasoning to make them more interesting. In my experience, the opposite is often true. I rarely feel more excited by the power of filmmaking than when I watch a video of undiluted moments, edited together with attention and intention. I love Valdez's hugely technical mashups for WS, but am even happier to see him turning his talent to making Momentshowing video diaries. Simple documentary filmmaking, by someone with mad skills. Similarly, what makes David Kessler's Shadow World videos much better than a TV-style documentary is the simplicity of his intention and execution. Events don't have to be important - they can be profound in their simple reality. Even a 12seconds.tv video can tell an engaging story. I'd like to see more people doing it. I've noticed some people talking about having to meet the high standards set by others during the game - the implication being that there's some level of technical and artistic anxiety involved, because it's video art. But... watch Jay's video! To make unique, engaging films, you really don't need anything more than a pocket camera, a simple clip splicer and the intention to capture some of your life's myriad little stories. Eventually it'll make us all much more interesting filmmakers than any amount of expensive cameras and Final Cut masterclasses. MOMENTSHOWING! Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 20-Nov-09, at 8:02 PM, Michael Verdi wrote: I don't want to take anything away from Jay's video but I'd like to point out that one part of what makes the video great (and easy to shoot) is Jay's idea of Momentshowing. I've been really taking that to heart over the last year and made some things that I really like and, I think, capture the truth of the moment, by just capturing tiny, random, moments (usually on my phone). That said, there is more to it than just capturing them - there's what you do with them. It doesn't take long to get that there's a method to Jay's madness in something like this: http://momentshowing.net/2007/04/video-crazy_arms/ Here's a few of mine; inspired by Jay: http://michaelverdi.com/2009/03/10/hanging-out/ http://michaelverdi.com/2009/07/10/leveling-up/ http://michaelverdi.com/2009/10/04/dog-cat-cows-airplanes/ http://michaelverdi.com/2009/11/02/kids/ Anyway, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the process or the constraints can make your art smarter if you let it. -
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright Music?
A sound reasoned, thought out responsesweet...but I would expect no less from Michael...me, well here is my take. What I think is disgenious is the following, record labels, corporations, marketing people, all for years, heck decades have done is try to get us as consumers to think of their products in our everyday lifes...rememeber the old Kodak slogan, Share moments, share life, Coke, it's the real thing, and so on or the way music is used now in commercials, to envoke a certain feeling or moment from your life...I mean in itself music takes us to a certain place in time in our lives, music video's help convey this process by putting pictures to words and so on They have spent a lot of money to get us to identify certain brands, certain music with events in our lives. It's how they have made a lot of money...it's just that now...anyone can take these things and share them...I mean what did they think was going to happen, a whole generation and a half has been rasised to think of their lives around brands, around music, around TV shows...and now they bitch and complain when we use tools to share OUR lives with the very things that we identify our lives with? It's nuts...I mean they still want us to think in the terms that they want us to think in, we just can't share it, show it or let anyone know we like or dislike it... I don't freakin think so Heath http://heathparks.com/blog I do agree you should alwasy give attribution though, something I need to be better at and I wouldn't ever use copyrighted music for a clientor for profit. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michaelve...@... wrote: Hey Pete, I'm cool with that. It would be great to get attribution (or even $) but really I just want people to see what I make. I don't pretend that I've made anything wholly original (I don't think anyone has) and I'm happy for people to use it as inspiration. Artists build off of the work of others without permission all of the time and to pretend otherwise is dishonest. In this world I think (and it's the case for myself personally) artists are more often negatively impacted by obscurity than by someone using their work without permission. Here's a recent video I made using some music from The Flaming Lips: http://michaelverdi.com/2009/11/03/embryonic/ The band did not loose anything in this transaction. Hopefully they've gained a new fan or two. In fact the whole reason I even bought that album was because I'd fallen in love with other albums of theirs that I'd downloaded illegally. Again that transaction (the illegal download) didn't cost the band a dime because I wasn't going to purchase those albums anyway and it resulted in me purchasing their latest. In fact I'd love to give them some more of my money to see them in concert (and probably buy a t-shirt) during their current tour. This craziness that publishing something entitles you to a monopoly on it that can be extended for a ridiculous amount of time is well, ridiculous. And in the case of non-commercial reuse, e.g. free advertising, can be harmful to try to enforce. You end up treating fans or customers like criminals. That's an easy way to appear like an asshole. Anyone here ever have to call Microsoft after reinstalling Windows? What a bunch of bullshit that is. Anyway, I could go on and on - this topic makes me so angry. Or rather what makes me angry is that we've let corporations set the conversation (and laws) about what property is and we've got artists totally buying into it even though for 99.9% of them it's not in their self-interest (it's like poor people voting for Republicans). What I'm always amazed by is that artists steal intellectual property like they breath air and then get pissed when someone else returns the honor. - Verdi On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Pete Prodoehl ras...@... wrote: So just to be clear... you guys are all cool with someone (oh, I dunno, let's say a musician) taking your video, and using it in any way they like, for whatever purpose they choose, even if you don't agree with it, and even if you have not released it under a sharing license? So if a multinational corporation uses your video and makes money from it, you're OK with that? If a huge record label uses it as they please, it's all good? I'm a huge supporter of Creative Commons, but I'm also respectful of people's work and allowing them to choose how they share it/how it is used, and not just being a jerk and taking it. I'd expect all creatives to think in a similar way, but sadly, I'm always amazed by people who work hard in one craft (let's say video) are so willing to take what someone else has created (let's say a musician) and do what they please with it without permission, or attribution, or anything else. (Sorry for the rant, it's been a while! :) Pete John Coffey wrote: What is
[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing
To render out in mp4 in Vegas you need to go to file, render as. Then in the drop down box, select mainconcept.mp4 and this then should give you an option for an Ipod version, if you select one of those and select the custom tab to the right you can then tweak the setings to get the mp4 output you want. Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Jones david.jo...@... wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Rupert rup...@... wrote: Amused as I am by you telling David H that he's off the mark, just as he sounds like he's about to blow... (wait - 3, 2, 1, I think I can hear him popping like Krakatoa from 7000 miles away) He's actually right. MP4 - particularly H264 MP4 - are notoriously bad to edit with. They *look* editable, but they grind and crunch and take forever to render and slip out of sync and won't be trimmed and cause your software to crash. Getting a faster processor won't help you. Even people with blazing fast Macs and Final Cut Pro can't cut H264. So you *do* have to transcode them first. It will speed *everything* else up. It's one of the reasons I edit all my clips from little cameras phones in iMovie or Vegas. iMovie converts to DV codec as it imports - and in my opinion the absolute best thing about Vegas is that it doesn't do any conversion - you put the clips in the timeline and cut. Which is why I recommended it to you. Although there's still a chance that it would have trouble editing big H264 MP4 files because H264 is a bugger to edit. Weirdly I had a conversation a bit like this - but the other way round - with David H on Twitter about 2 years ago when I complained about not being able to edit my point shoot and phone MP4s in Final Cut Pro. Lots of other people were complaining about it - but David's FCP was editing his MP4s fine at that point. I think that was before he got his Xacti - and Xacti files for some reason seem to cause more of a problem than most. In fact, I just remembered, one time I did have trouble editing Xacti files on Vegas. Unless you want to try Vegas, you're going to have to transcode the clips. It's like taking things off tape - but you don't have to watch log while you do it - you can batch convert a bunch of clips while you sleep or do something else. Honestly, Google it online - in almost every type of editing, there's some kind of preparation of clips. It seems like an insane waste of time, I know - why can't the editing companies adapt their software so we don't have to do this whole extra step, when it seems so close? But at the moment, it's necessary. If your editing software won't output a good enough video file, that's another truly unnecessary extra step - and one that's costing you an extra level of compression. Vegas (or Premiere) would be able to export a good quality MP4 direct from your timeline. Just download the trial of Vegas and try it. It's great. I already said I *have* tried Vegas (Platinum) as recommended, and for the life of me I cannot find a way to output MP4 in 1280x720. If it's there then please point me to where... I've hardly used it, but I go to the obvious Make Movie output screen and it only gives me 1440x1080 or higher for Sony AVC which seems like the only MP4 option. Perhaps I'm missing the obvious? If I have to convert first and editing 1280x720 H.264 direct is an absolute waste of time, then so be it. But really, with Video Studio I feel so close, I can't help pushing until I get it. Sorry if I seem overly stubborn, but also please remember that everyone has different requirements. What might be not usable/not possible for your needs might be perfectly adequate for my needs. In fact VS has moments when it lets me trim and preview without any major problems, but this seems fairly random. So perhaps going from 2G to 3G RAM will the trick for me. I also have not optimised my machine for performance. If it can work *sometimes* then why not all the time on a good/optimised machine/software? Some people have mentioned you have to get a more editable friendly MP4 codec, so that gives me further hope that's it's actually possible. I can't believe there is no one out there successfully editing 1280x720 MP4 directly, anyone? I'm tackling this problem in two separate areas: 1) Basic editing of 1280x720 MP4 video 2) Direct outputting of 1280x720 MP4 video Ideally I want a program that lets me do both with minimal work. Thanks. Dave.
[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing
This is an excellent point Michael, I think we all got really spoiled with how easy it is to edit in DV/SD, etc. There are so many HD flavors out there right now and you just need a ton of processing power to edit it, if you arn't going to convert it first. It sucks but I think we are still at least a year, maybe 2 away from being able to easlily edit HD video on home PC's. Who knows though Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michaelve...@... wrote: Here's the big thing with HD video that people forget after all those years with DV. The DV video codec is great for both shooting and editing. The only HD video codec that I've seen that works for both shooting and editing is Panasonic's DVCHD Pro. For everything else you need to convert the video to an intermediate format. I use Final Cut Pro and transcode everything to ProRes. I don't know what you'd use on Windows editors but the concept is the same - transcoding to an intermediate editing codec. - Verdi
[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing
I think you are going to be stuck wity extra steps here...I just got a zi8, now my computer is almost 4 years old now, but at the time I got it, it was screaming, dedicated video card and everything. I wanted to edit video with this machine for a while. And for standard def, it's awesome. But even with Vegas 9, HD is a no go, not in it's native form anyway. And I have searched and searched on Vegas forums, on other forms, etc and for most people they convert the footage to a different format to be able to edit. Now the funny part is, that the included software from Kodak, will edit my HD footage well, but the video editor sucks, at least from my standpoint of wanting to do cuts, overlays's etc But doing basic trims, it's fine... I hear you about having the SD card option, that is why for the longest time most of my video blogs were shot using my Kodak digital still camera and then my Cannon using the movie modes...it was just so much simplier. That's one reason I love the zi8 is that it also shoots in a widescreen VGA mode as well as 720 and 1080 HD... Handbrake might be able to convert you files for you and it's free Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Jones david.jo...@... wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Michael Verdi michaelve...@... wrote: Here's the big thing with HD video that people forget after all those years with DV. The DV video codec is great for both shooting and editing. The only HD video codec that I've seen that works for both shooting and editing is Panasonic's DVCHD Pro. For everything else you need to convert the video to an intermediate format. I use Final Cut Pro and transcode everything to ProRes. I don't know what you'd use on Windows editors but the concept is the same - transcoding to an intermediate editing codec. That's messy, and I want to avoid that if possible. If it's automatic then that might be ok. One of the main reasons I got the new cam is for the convenience of SD card over tape, reducing the steps/time involved in the editing process, so have to put in extra steps again kinda sucks. Is anyone out there using modest hardware to edit 1280x720 H.264 HD directly? I'm not doing anything fancy making movies here and using all the crazy filters, I just need to take existing H.264 clips direct form the cam, trim them, and output H.264, with a minimum of fuss and effort. I'm not going to give up on HD. I sense VS12 can also do it if I tweak my system enough, so I need to try Sony Vegas as it claims to be quick, and then there is the more RAM option. BTW, MPEG Streamclip works really well, but is painfully sloow... Dave.
[videoblogging] Advertising and personal vlogs : Was, Blip doesn't love me anymore?
I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. It's funny you should bring this up, as I have been wondering for a while now, what the future of the type of video blogging I do is. When I say I, I mean people who shoot mainly personal video's and don't have the ad's set to on. All these video hosting sites need to find a way to make money, charging for HD content is one (Google doesn't count as they have more money than the whole world and YT probably doesn't cost them anything, contray to some reports), limiting what you can upload and adding advertisments. Now at one time adding advertisments to any personal vlog would cause a massive flame war here with anyone who suggested that advertisments were not all bad, that person would forever be branded a heritic and cast out..Butif Blip doesn't make any money, then...bye, bye video's... So...what to do? Allow advererts? Or just hope that blip never goes away? Self host? (which may or may not be an issue) I mean long gone are the days when you could see a Josh Leo or Paul or a Steve or just a personal vlogger on Blip's homepage or showcase pages..It is about being a desitantion for shows on the web Which is fine, I mean they need to make money like anyone else and they are still the most creater friendly group I know of...this is not a bash of blip but more of a question of where do we go from here? thing... It's a very real possiblity that the only free game in town someday will be YT This email is a little all over the place but hopefully the main point is coming across...will the little guy eventually get shut out? Will it just be a small little market with a handfull of us just making personal vid's because we can? I'm going to be in NY tomorrow and Friday, maybe I should just drop by blip and ask them? lol Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: Seems to me that you're being misunderstood. The weird thing is that it seems almost deliberate. It reads like their stock position is that if anybody asks whether something they're doing breaches the ToS, they should err on the side of caution in their response and just say No. My personal reading of what you're doing is that it's fine under their ToS, but it's a bit depressing to see this kind of response from them, that doesn't seem to be trying to help you out or understand what it is that you're trying to do. Especially when they used to handle all support requests more quickly and positively than anyone else. I'm sure we're all aware that they've been switching their focus away from people like us and from YouTube clip content, to position themselves more strongly as The Web TV Show People. It's obvious that videoblogging isn't going to make anybody any money by itself, but on the other hand there are a lot of people out there who use Blip because it's a fantastic video sharing site, with a great set of features - better than YouTube. Seems to me that things like your videos are just sensible free social marketing for them - showing off why Blip is great to people who usually just see YouTube embeds. But perhaps the weight of HD content being uploaded to their servers, which they have to transcode and stream out, is costing them too much to be worth it. And I guess videoblogs and marketing and commercial videos often opt out of advertising, therefore don't make Blip any money. I know Vimeo banned videogame screencasts because they were costing too much in terms of processing time and bandwidth. Perhaps that's why Blip say We are not a good solution for screencasts - even though they're actually a great solution for your kind of screencasts. So. Add some post-roll adverts onto your videos, make them some money, and see how keen they are to nuke your account after that ;) Rupert On 28-Oct-09, at 1:24 PM, Adam Warner wrote: Hi all, I'm disappointed to learn that Blip.tv is discouraging me from hosting my videos. I'm especially disappointed because I have been using Blip since the beta days (under two accounts). I feel like I've just been kicked in the gut. This email to the group is intended to ask your opinion on whether I should continue with Blip.tv and if not, I would really
[videoblogging] Re: Kodak Zi8 for blogging?
Absolutely Gina, I just bought the zi8 a few days ago and I have been playing around with it. So I do have some serious hands on impressions. And you are dead on about having to temper your expectations with this camcorder. I think most people look at the specs and get blown away and think they can use it for things that it's really not designed for. As you stated it's a point and shoot camera, meant for sharing short clips with minimal editing. You are not going to be able to shoot a short film on this thing...(I mean you could but seriously) Some things to be aware as there are some issues with this camera. Yes, it's h.264 .mov file but it's in some funky wrapper and it won't work in some editing software programs. I know for sure in Sony Vegas, if you drop it in the time line as is, you don't have any audio. For most people just renaming the mov extension to mp4 works. For most, for some it doesn't and in my case, the audio and video get out of sync for 2 seconds, it's an easy fix to correct it but it is a pain. There are some other work arounds you can do as well. If you are shooting HD, make sure your computer can handle it, mine does...barely...(going to get a new one soon anyway) At night indoors with lighting, shooting in HD, it's grainy...but as noted above, this is a sub 200 point and shoot camera, it is what it is. HD in natural light outside or inside, is stunning. Invest in a small handheld tripod and attach it to the bottom of the camera, it helps with camera shake a lot. It also has a WVGA setting which is SD at a 848 x 480 which actually looks pretty good even in low light. When I first got it and had some of the issues, I was ready to take it back, but I had to remind myself of a few things, one, most of these sub 200 camcorders have various issues, funky codecs, lag, low light performance, etc...but it's under 200 bucks, you want a real HD camcorder expect to spend at least 600-1200 bucks. After experimenting with it and understanding what it is and what it's not. I am keeping it. Most of the time I will be using it to shoot video of my grandson and the rest of the time little short clips here and there of things going on around me. I'll stick with my DVX when I want to make a film.. ;-) Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, compumavengal compumaven...@... wrote: I'd like to bring something up that is often forgotten about under $200 camcorders. These camcorders were originally designed for point and shoot users. Having said that the features of the Zi8 are stunning: # 1080p (1920 × 1080, 30 fps) # 720p/60 fps (1280 × 720, 60 fps) # 720p (1280 × 720, 30 fps) USB 2.0 (high speed), AV out, HDMI, DC in, external microphone jack (support stereo) in an under $200 camcorder. I don't expect it to do low light shooting. I don't have expectation of white balancing. There is no optical zoom. I won't ever use the digital zoom. I've owned a Xacti camcorder, never a problem with it. I have a Zi6 and I love it. But I understand the constrictions these camcorders by imposes on me. If I shoot hand held I'm gonna get jerky video unless I'm really careful. I have to be next to the person I'm talking to or no more than 4 feet away. I have to be creative in finding ways to stabilize the camcorder as I walk; like having the camcorder on a very small tripod braced in a handbag pocket. This may or may not work for you. If I am recording an event or lecture I'm taking my 30x optical zoom JVC Hard Drive Camcorder and a tripod. My point is that comparing $1,200 features to a $200 camcorder is inherently frustrating. If you need more stuff then you'll have to willing to jump to the next price class. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Jones david.jones@ wrote: My quest for a cheap new videoblogging camera continues... I came across the Kodak Zi8 HD pocket camcorder: http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsus/en_US/pd/Zi8_Pocket_Video_Camera/productID.156585800 Test footage looks really good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-raL4iQoY and the main benefit is that it has an external mic jack. It even has a remote which is essential for solo video blogging. Only downside seems to be lack of swivel head, so I won't be able to see myself in the video. That would be annoying, but not a showstopper. At least it would stop me looking off-lens all the time... The real test will always under my own conditions of course, I shoot in mostly the same location indoors in a fluoro lit workshop. I was considering the Canon FS200 SD card camcorder (looking for second hand because new is out of my price range), but the sensor is only 1/6 so most likely has fairly horrible low light performance, and the reviews mention this as well. I don't need the full HD,
[videoblogging] Re: Kodak Zi8 for blogging?
Rupert - I agree with you about the resolution and it's more about the skill than the resolution. Croma's Passenger made me cry it was so beatiful, it also made me want to quit vlogging as I realize that I don't have even an ounce of his creativity and eye...but that's off topic. I agree, it's about the story, you don't need HD resolution to tell the storyHere's the funny thing though, the main reason I bought it was that it shoots VGA in a widescreen format as well...848x480, perfect for web video... Now will I shoot in HD, yes, but only for select things, my grandson, special events, etc where I am only going to show the world, a minute or 2 but I want to have the other footage for me. Visual memories are very important to me, during my parents 2nd divorce from each other, my father destroyed all of our family photo's, all of them, thousands of pictures, simple moments from our lives, fishing with my grandfather, my first christmas, my first steps, me sitting and playing, family outing, and so oneI have no record of my life prior to me being 16, except for about 3 photo's that my mother was able to save (so I guess that means it was not all of them but 99.7%)... I do this for me, I do this so someday my grandson and my children can look back and hopefully remeber a happy time, so I want those moments to be a bit 'bigger' I know you are not railing at anyone personaly and you are so right in most of it's overkill, but I'm an american and we love overkill :-) Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: OK. I've got to get this off my chest. I think that HD is massively overrated for shooting videoblog posts of people talking. Or even videoblog posts of pretty things. That beautiful video I posted by Jay the other day, with all those super detailed little moving photographic moments - that was 320x240. If you're Robert Croma, and you're doing something insanely visually beautiful at a large scale, great. But it's about the skill and artistry, not the resolution. Liss produces more beauty than most of us can handle, at 640x360. Speakman at 320x240. If you only want a cheap pocket camera for videoblogging, why is resolution your priority? Why not get a camera that shoots much better images and colours at lower res video? And is great in Low Light - surely one of the most important things of all for videoblogging? I've always been impressed by the visuals and low light capabilities of the good Canon point and shoots. Although they are getting sucked into HD now. Nokia's blogger marketing people sent me a Nokia N86, which their ex- Kodak imaging chief has put a lot of effort into - a beautiful Zeiss lens and great processor. Shoots lovely video at 640x480, and great photographs at 8MP. Or even 5MP. That's a *phone* that shoots better quality video than your Kodak or your Flip. If you're not convinced by any of that, but you believe in energy conservation and limiting your emissions, then consider this: a report by McKinsey published before the explosion in HD video predicted that data centers would outstrip airlines in carbon emissions by 2020. Think about the energy costs of uploading *and* transcoding *and* storing *and* delivering all the multiple formats of your video (YouTube converts to and stores 3 copies: flv, mp4, HD) hundreds or thousands of times. And the power required by your computer to edit and playback HD. All to see your face in 1920x1080. R Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 23-Oct-09, at 1:10 PM, compumavengal wrote: I'd like to bring something up that is often forgotten about under $200 camcorders. These camcorders were originally designed for point and shoot users. Having said that the features of the Zi8 are stunning: # 1080p (1920 × 1080, 30 fps) # 720p/60 fps (1280 × 720, 60 fps) # 720p (1280 × 720, 30 fps) USB 2.0 (high speed), AV out, HDMI, DC in, external microphone jack (support stereo) in an under $200 camcorder. I don't expect it to do low light shooting. I don't have expectation of white balancing. There is no optical zoom. I won't ever use the digital zoom. I've owned a Xacti camcorder, never a problem with it. I have a Zi6 and I love it. But I understand the constrictions these camcorders by imposes on me. If I shoot hand held I'm gonna get jerky video unless I'm really careful. I have to be next to the person I'm talking to or no more than 4 feet away. I have to be creative in finding ways to stabilize the camcorder as I walk; like having the camcorder on a very small tripod braced in a handbag pocket. This may or may not work for you. If I am recording an event or lecture I'm taking my 30x optical zoom JVC Hard Drive Camcorder and a tripod. My point is
[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
Hmmm me making a short video.I can do that, 6-7 minutes tops... :-) I kid... Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: This was my instinct, too. Or at most two minutes. I've been doing this other project with one minute videos, and it works really well. You can fit quite a lot into a minute. What do other people think? Short is good...especially since each person needs to post their video within 24 hours. I assume we'll have a lot of midnight postings. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
[videoblogging] Re: NaVloPoMo 2009
I'll do 11/4/09be gentle whomever makes one on 11/3.. Heath http://heathparks.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: OKAY! name your dates! On 19-Oct-09, at 5:12 PM, sull wrote: 11:11 squat ;) On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: It's that time of year again. I've reverted to calling it NaVloPoMo because after all the umming and ahhing about names and last year, we came up with VloMo, which just didn't have the same ring to it. Given all the things going on in my life, there's absolutely no way on God's Earth that I'm going to be able to make a video every day in November. And I know a lot of you will feel the same. Which got me thinking about ways to make it work. Of course, if you want to go ahead and do one video a day every day in November, that's GREAT. But in addition, I thought maybe instead of 30 people all trying to make 30 videos, we could collaborate - 30 videobloggers each making just one video. Some of the best stuff that came out of the first Navlopomo in 2007 was when people started responding to and remixing each others' videos. So... How about this? You choose a day in November - and on that day, you have to make a video inspired in some way by the previous day's video. A big linear game of videoblogging Consequences. What do you think? Are there 30 people out there who are up for this? If you're up for it, reply here. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: iPod Nano shoots video
I have to say that I agree about the Iphone...and you all know how hard that is for me to say..lol But I think almost hands down, the Iphone is the best entertainment device that also happens to be a phone. Now I have heard as just a phone it's just so so, but they did pretty much nail everything else. Last week, my wife, Glenna, said she wanted a phone that could sync with her work outlook, mail, etc. So we went looking at the phones verizon has (long time users, I like the network, what can I say) Well we first looked at the blackberries and they are nice but she also wanted the abilbity to watch shows, listen to podcasts, music etc, surf the web and all that...well the one blackberry she really liked was the storm and given the reviews of the storm, there was no way (although I hear the storm 2 is much better), then we started looking at the windows mobile phones.and OMG...I wanted to toss the phones accross the room, I mean they sucked, I don't just mean they were hard to use, they just sucked, compared to my Dare they sucked...and I like Windows...one of about 3 in this group... Just to send a text message was an effort in how many steps can we make... Anyway, she didn't get anything.yet, the blackberry is still on the table but if verizon had the Iphone, we would have walked out of the store on Tuesday happy and verizon would have made some money So I will give props to Apple for the iphoneit does make you wonder though why these other handset makers are having such a hard time making an Iphone cloneI mean it can't be that hard, can it? Heath http://heathparks.com (site under construction) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: So Rupert given your experience with Nokia and Apple, I would love to read your more elaborate thoughts on the two options for mobile smart phone puters. Are you leaning towards iPhone? I was a Nokia user for a long time...but without being a fanboy, I got to say how awesome the iPhone is. The fact that you can figure out how to do things without instructions is amazing. Hopefully, other companies will follow this model. It's strange to me that Nokia is open and Apple is closed, but developers have created many more applications for Apple than Nokia. Being a big fan of Open Source, it's just an example that usability will always win. As far as the camera on the iPhone 3GS, it's not something right home about. The image is pretty poor. Little control. Bad mic. BUT BUT BUT it is extremely easy to take a video and post it online. So easy. Hopefully, Apple with all their developers and design sense will just set the expectation for how all phones should be, open source included. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
[videoblogging] [show-in-a-box] Re: Videopress and vPIP: UPDATED!!!
Yea, I ran into some issues too when trying it out on another themeI am still on the fence on this, it's awesome that Eric is taking ownership of the plugin's cause he really knows his stuff and is a great guy to boot...but for me, I am just not sure if I want to mess with it anymore...part of it's because I am moving my site to a new hosting provider and even though it's supposed to be really simple to transfer your site to a new provider, it left my head spinning a bitso for me it's just easier to kinda start back from scratch, but I do have a lot of video's, post's etc...and regardless what I do it's going to take a bit of work... I am still not 100% sure what I am going to do with my site redesign I have 2 design's I am giving a hard look to...I guess I will know, when I know Heath http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: I was able to make a few crude code changes to make the archive display in columns. (http://kenetic.org/archive). Your archive page looks awesome. The page looks like what Mike wants for his own Archive page. The number of columns IS hardcoded but could be set up as an option. The problem is that the current archive uses a table instead of lists so there is not a lot of flexibility there. I ran into other problems with this when I was attempting to use a different theme and had to revert back to K2 because of it. Another random issue I see is that the number of thumbnails shown on the first page of the archive is always one less than the number I specified in setup (both before and after my change). However, I have not taken a thorough look at the code to see why. If anyone wants a quick fix while you wait for a more permanent solution, I can give you my changes. Yeah, Cheryl added this suggestion for any future changes to the plugin: it would be best if he could just output it as either a definition list (with dt the post title and dd items for thumbnail image and description) or an unordered list with other semantic tags wrapping things like the post title (heading) and description (paragraph) and a styling class for a thumbnail image. Then designers who know CSS could concoct all manner of display options. We could control the number and width of columns or provide single-column display, and we could share basic templates with each other. I wouldn't want to see any specific number of columns hard-coded in. Just a list, so we can decide how many columns to display based on individual taste/what fits for our sites. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Video Archives, the best way to show them?
I have been thinking this morning, always dangerous I know, anyway I see there has been a lot of discussion again on the best way for vloggers to create an archive page. Well as I said, it got me thinking and I would like to know what would make you view my archive? I mean no matter how I set up an archive page, what would make anyone want to sit back and just watch all of my 400 or so and counting video's? How could I even show that on a page? 400 and counting thumbnails? Would a 60x60 little picture pique your interest enough to select a random archive video and watch it? I think before any solution can be created we as vloggers have to answer these questions first. Or am I just smoking crack? I am also begining to think that an archive is becoming more and more of a very personal thing for each vlogger and what works for one may not work for everyone, which is why it's good to have choices... Anyway any thoughts? Heath http://heathparks.com
[videoblogging] Re: Videopress and vPIP: UPDATED!!!
Yea, I saw yesterday where Eric had done this and was going to post on it today but got busy with my real job. it's given me some food for thought because I was just going to go with Blip.tv's player permantanty because of vpip and the other plugin's not being updated regularly but nowI am not sure.. regardless I am going to be blowing up my site here shortly and changing things up across the board with my online life...I am sure all 12 or so of you who follow me will be waiting with baited breath...lol Thanks Eric! Heath http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: Eric Lorentz, aka UnholyKnght, has done us all a big solid. He updated the Videopress and vPIP plugins for the latest version of Wordpress: http://unholyknight.com/VideoWrangler/ Many of you may remember all the work that Charles and Enric put into the original versions. These plugins helped make video a more active part of our WP blogs. As Wordpress evolved, these plugins starting acting buggy or broke. It's a lot of work keeping these plugins constantly updated. If you use the old versions, delete them and install these new ones. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, give them a try. Or hopefully some folks here will link to some examples. We want to redesign our videoblog, but you can see all the plugins in action: http://ryanishungry.com VideoWrangler (new version of vPIP) allows multiple video formats to play in one place. Related Videos on sidebar lets us choose which of our archives compliment the main video. We put Recent Videos on the footer to show our latest work. If you click Archives in the navigation bar, you'll be able to scroll through thumbnails and descriptions of our work. The plugins are all open source if anyone wants to imporve the functionality. I know Heath and Mike Moon have recently discussed better Archive pages. Thank you Eric! Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
[videoblogging] Re: Blip Show Player and Archive Pages
I too have been looking at blip more and more. In fact I think I am going to totaly revamp my site and just use the blip player and as Verdi notes below use the blip player as a visual archive. I have also found a few plugin's that help show related posts, and random posts that I can put in the sidebar to help showcase older video's. As I have looked and looked and tried to find a theme that was me I realized that it's not the theme that makes my site, it's me and my content. People don't visit my site because it looks good, they visit my site and watch my video's because they know me or are subscribed to me, etcit's the content that makes the site me I am always going to have old video's, I will always have video's that some like and some do not. And seeing as I post fairly often I am always going to have a new video replacing and old one, etc...I for one have decided to stop worrying about it and just create, I can always repost an oldie but a goodie, I can always create a showcase site to show off my favortie video's. I am just going to focus on what I can do, instead of what I can't Long life the blog/vlog/multimedia thingy's... Heath http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michaelve...@... wrote: We've had a number of discussions about the problems of the blog format for videoblogs which mainly centers around the lack of tools for discovering old videos. I've been working on a fictional web series and thinking about this problem and I find myself using the great tools at blip.tv more and more - especially the showplayer and playlists. Here's what I've doing. I found that we've made a number of 5 - 10 episode stories so I've made playlists for each of them and embeded a showplayer for each at the top of my archive page. Check it out here http://talkbot.tv/category/season-3/. For a personal site you may not have stories like that but you could make playlists of a special group of related posts or maybe a playlist of your favorites and stick them anywhere that makes sense on your site - archive page, about page, etc. -Verdi -- Michael Verdi http://milkweedmediadesign.com http://michaelverdi.com
[videoblogging] Re: Blip Show Player and Archive Pages
Yea, Rupert, I love those best of video's that you do, and that is another great thing about Blip. Being able to showcase other vloggers via those playlists is just awesome. Heath http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: Excellent! I totally agree. Many great vlogs have minimal characterisation identity in their site design - the character and identity is in the videos. As for content, some of my favourite things that you've done were your mobile video posts, where you just shot moments with your phone. You don't have to try hard to make something - you are very watchable on camera. I use the Blip playlist player to show my more popular old videos on my Greatest Hits page, and it works really well. It's not even really that necessary to have your own podcast feed - you can use Blip's iTunes feed if you're uploading everything to Blip. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15-Sep-09, at 3:30 PM, hpbatman7 wrote: I too have been looking at blip more and more. In fact I think I am going to totaly revamp my site and just use the blip player and as Verdi notes below use the blip player as a visual archive. I have also found a few plugin's that help show related posts, and random posts that I can put in the sidebar to help showcase older video's. As I have looked and looked and tried to find a theme that was me I realized that it's not the theme that makes my site, it's me and my content. People don't visit my site because it looks good, they visit my site and watch my video's because they know me or are subscribed to me, etcit's the content that makes the site me I am always going to have old video's, I will always have video's that some like and some do not. And seeing as I post fairly often I am always going to have a new video replacing and old one, etc...I for one have decided to stop worrying about it and just create, I can always repost an oldie but a goodie, I can always create a showcase site to show off my favortie video's. I am just going to focus on what I can do, instead of what I can't Long life the blog/vlog/multimedia thingy's... Heath http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi michaelverdi@ wrote: We've had a number of discussions about the problems of the blog format for videoblogs which mainly centers around the lack of tools for discovering old videos. I've been working on a fictional web series and thinking about this problem and I find myself using the great tools at blip.tv more and more - especially the showplayer and playlists. Here's what I've doing. I found that we've made a number of 5 - 10 episode stories so I've made playlists for each of them and embeded a showplayer for each at the top of my archive page. Check it out here http://talkbot.tv/category/season-3/. For a personal site you may not have stories like that but you could make playlists of a special group of related posts or maybe a playlist of your favorites and stick them anywhere that makes sense on your site - archive page, about page, etc. -Verdi -- Michael Verdi http://milkweedmediadesign.com http://michaelverdi.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] How do you consume video?
I have been thinking about my own changing habits in video consumption and some comments made by Verdi, Rupert and Ryanne has got me thinking even more. How has your way of consuming(watching/interacting) with web video changed? I mean remember Fireant? Subscribe to your favorite feeds and have the content downloaded to your PC or laptop for your viewing pleasure! Then later onto your video Ipod! Sure things like that still exsist, Miro, and some little known program called Itunes...(and that blockbuster format the Zune)... Butand this is a big but, I think, how many of you are still downloading and watching video's on your Ipod or Zune or Zen or Iphone? With the Iphone and Ipod, if you have a cell or wi-fi connection you can just watch it online...do you still download video's to your PC's or Mac's? I know for me, my portable player is just filled with music and tv shows/movies that I have ripped, when I want to watch a vlog I just watch it online anymore, saying me some hard drive space... So.how do you watch web video? Heath http://heathparks.com
[videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)
Thanks for the reply David..a well thought out explanation.I appreciate it..and more importantly I understand better now... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/8/06, hpbatman7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't get and maybe someone can explain this to me in a simple manner, (I am not a real tech guy, I know enough and am learning but on a thread like this I realize how much I don't know.) I put my videos out, what is to stop someone from putting my RSS feed into a site without my knowledge and how does that site know it's not me? Nothing is stopping this, and in many cases this would be a good thing. Getting more exposure to your site, and your videos. The key point is: is that site (which is collecting RSS feeds) just an index of feeds (and thus simply pointing to the creators work via the links within their feed) ... or a service like Veoh that downloads that content, alters it, and rehosts it, and possibly even (as Veoh has done) fail to even provide a link back to the origional artist ... thus inplying this content is somehow affiliated with the service. Lots of great services do these things (hosting/transcoding/etc), but the key point in the Veoh debate is that the content producers are not the ones electing to have their work altered and rehosted. Requests for this altered content never hit the producers servers so they never see the stats. They have no way of knowing the altered content even exists ... and they have no attribution giving them credit at this new site (which is a very simple requirement of most of our cc licenses). And again I think the real sticking point here is that this isn't a case like YouTube where the artists go to upload their content in order to get these services ... this is someone taking the content from the prodcuer without their knowledge, altering it, hosting it elsewhere, and displaying as part of a larger video site without so much as a link back. What is to stop someone from uploading my video to YouTube and have it link back to their site? Nothing. But at least in this case it's a user who's breaking the rules and not the service/site itself. You can have all the opt in you want but by putting our video out there we all take the risk of someone highjacking our stuffdon't we? Yup, no question. If a rouge user of YouTube is uploading my video thats one thing ... but should we allow a commercial service be one of the active hijackers? The commercial service itself should at least respect the copyright (even if some of its users fail to) ... especially since most of us have the license information embedded into the feed ... its all there. I hear what you're saying though. I've been a long time advocate of the idea If you have a feed, you're authroizing syndication wherever anyone wants to syndicate it. However, those people syndicating it still need to abide by the copyrights that are attached to the content within the feed. - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com feed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)
Thank you for saying this Josh...I have to say this whole thread has really taken me by surpriseit seems that everyone is out to vilify VEOH.look I don't like what they did but you head the nail on the head when you talk about ALL the sites that are infringing..in various ways... What I don't get and maybe someone can explain this to me in a simple manner, (I am not a real tech guy, I know enough and am learning but on a thread like this I realize how much I don't know.) I put my videos out, what is to stop someone from putting my RSS feed into a site without my knowledge and how does that site know it's not me? What is to stop someone from uploading my video to YouTube and have it link back to their site? How does a site that gathers video control that? You can have all the opt in you want but by putting our video out there we all take the risk of someone highjacking our stuffdon't we? Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, this thread got out of whack... it was not about Veoh, but how other services are doing roughly what Veoh has done but to mainstream content owners while hiding behind their supposed inability to enforce their own terms of use Just trying to get back on track here. This thread was about the large amount of copyright infringment happening on the various video clip sharing services (YouTube, vSocial, et al) and how those services look the other way and, much to their own benefit, tolerate the copyright infringing practice of a relative minority of users. -Josh On 4/8/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First. Each one of the videos that was stolen from me by VEOH originally had my website address at the end of them. I could not verify that it was still there as I had to register with VEOH's site to actually view my own videos. That is not going to happen. Second. Each of the videos that was stolen came from my site which has All content is Copyright (c) 2005/2006 David Howell As well, there is a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 2.5 License for all content on my site. Nevermind that they have removed all but one of my videos, VEOH violated my copyright. Plain and simple. You know what? I am a pretty easy going guy. All VEOH had to do was ask me to use my videos. That's all. A simple email. They couldnt have been bothered though. They chose to steal them. Petty thievery. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Daryl Watson djwatson@ wrote: Copyright is an issue for filmmakers as well as vloggers. So how do film-makers ensure their films are correctly credited and the copyright status of their films made clear to their audience? They include it within the film/video itself. Is it that hard for a vlogger to include a plate at the end of each vlog that gives credit to the author of the vlogger, and a symbol indicating it's copyright status (trad. Or creative commons or otherwise)? And add a link-back as well so the vlogger can be contacted if need be? This wouldn't solve the Veoh issue, but it would mean that if your work was being used in contexts outside of your knowing, it would at the very least retain attribution and an address that would enable you to be contacted so interested parties could find more of the work that you've made. Daryl http://feztv.blogspot.com On 8/4/06 2:03 PM, videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com wrote: Message: 20 Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:51:05 - From: David Howell taoofdavid@ Subject: Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...) For me, the problem is that the videos of mine that Veoh has are videos that I made to advertise my wifes business. On the original posts on my site, I put a link to her site. Veoh does not link back to my site. Thus my wife is losing possible clients. Also, I am not credited with making the videos. A violation of my copyright. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron andrew@ wrote: Otherwise, what's the problem? Is anyone that has been complaining about Veoh (including me once before) lost any money or viewers because of them? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: How Much Time Do You Spend Editing?
It varies with me, it depends on what I am vlogging, this bit I did, Magic Eight Ball, I filmed and edited in under an hour, but I had a really good idea in my head of how I wanted the finished video to look, the filming probably took about 20 minutes total (with a couple of reshoots) and the editing about 30 minutes (which includes the time to import the video into my program) I use Sony Vegas (the lite version, it cost me about 60 bucks) You can see that video here. http://blip.tv/file/get/BatmanGeek- MagicEightBall238.mov This one took a bit longer because I went over to a friends house to have some fun and to just show geeks as they are, I probably took about 45 minutes of footage or so, ( I was there longer) and it did take me about 30 minutes to edit (not including the time to import the video) because I had more footage to go through...you can check it out here http://blip.tv/file/get/BatmanGeek-GeekDay587.mov I am learning NOT to film everything that makes editing a lot easier, at least when you are doing a bit but that gets harder when you are just videoing for the heck of it and then decide to make it a vlog..I have found though don't be afraid to edit, as long as the meat is there they will get it. btw I am still learning my way around with Vegas but I really like it. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Monique Danielle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Vloggers, I'm curious about how much times folks spend editing and what programs they use? Also how often do you vlog, as that impacts time available to edit? I'm using Adobe Premiere and my editing skills are extremely undeveloped (dare I say, they suck!). Anyway, I would love for folks to reply to this post by linking directly to a video or two and telling how long it took them to film and edit each video, and what editing software they are using. And, how often they vlog. I'm trying to get an idea of what I should be shooting for. The Adobe Premiere help files are pretty good, but I'm still missing alot of the power of the program. Do you know of any good online/interactive tutorials? I have three vlogs and I'm trying to decide how to approach them: 1. VlogDiva - I would like to post weekly there. My favorite entry is 'Characteristics of Bad Website Design', but believe it or not it took me a long time to edit that video. So I'm starting to think that I'm just going to read from a prompter. I spend so much time writing the script that I dont want to have to spend a bunch of time memorizing and editing to. 2. VlogChallenge - That one is easy because all I'm going to do is film myself announcing a challenge. But if I can get enough participants each week I would also like to make a remix of all entries for a given challenge. 3. ShopSWFL - This regional community site has a ton of back end functionality, but no content and is basically a shell right now. But once I launch in a few weeks I would like to start doing a daily vlog where I film people and places in and around SWFL for two to four minutes. I'm curious to see if anyone else is doing this - I would like to see how they are doing it, what the quality is, etc. Cheers Monique Danielle http://.vlogchallenge.com - This Week's Challenge: Danger http://www.vlogdiva.com - This Weeks Video: Networking Tips Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging Week 2006: Vloggers Participating in Videoblogging Week 2006
I would echo that comment that there needs to be better ways to track new videos..but I would also like to extend my thanks to all those who have worked very hard to index all those who are participating in vlog week 2006..I am no tech person I know enough...but you have done a fantastic job I just felt that I should say that Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello friends! I've updated the Videoblogging Week 2006 blog with a post about watching everyone's videos. Vloggers Participating in Videoblogging Week 2006 http://videobloggingweek2006.blogspot.com/2006/04/vloggers- participating-in.html It gives visitors a way to see everyone who is participating using the work of Aidan, Stephanie and Andy. Please use the comments section over there to post any other ways that you use to keep track of the new videos. This project has made it clear to me that there needs to be better ways for groups like this to keep track of new videos. The videobloggingweek2006 tag is a filter, a trusted filter that we all want to use to be able to see new videos, but the distribution mechanism isn't quite yet up to par. Hopefully we can figure something out... --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com http://Rocketboom.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Danger Vlogging: Day 2
I have always manually pinged and it usually shows up pretty quick within the hour.I will echo the weird and whatever works factor --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, mine finally showed after manually pingingwhatever works I guess. On 4/4/06, Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, this is just what I found in Technorati as of 10am this morning. I'm not trying to collect an official list or anything ac --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy markus@ wrote: me too - two posts so far trine berry wrote: I'm missing.. :-( I don't get it. I tagged it, it was showing up in technorati yesterday and now it's gone?? Trine YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogging dangerously...brainstorming session
Just have fun..sometimes that is just dangerous.. :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monique, there are other dangerous ideas you can do, ones that aren't risky for your business or reputation. Consider also some technically dangerous vlogs, like use a commercially-biased product placement in your vlog. Dangerous in the vlogosphere, but utterly tame to your friends and neighbors. On 4/3/06, gottadiva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, though, finding dangerous material that can be done around the constraints of a dayjob is pretty tricky. What other ideas have people had? I totally agree. I own a small business in a small town where everyone knows everyone. So, my 'dangerous' vlogging will probably be fairly tame. But, if we think outside of the box we can come up with fun stuff. For example if I were to sing and dance that would definitely be dangerous, as I would look like a total AZZ for the whole world to see! Cheers Monique Danielle http://www.vlogdiva.com Newest Webisode: Five Simple Concepts for Successful Networking Coming Soon: Three Part Series on Tradeshow Success Yahoo! Groups Links -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: VLOGGERS UNITE
You're right we don't really know anything about youexcept for what you have posted. As an observation only, I find it interesting that for someone who is trying to put the whole thing past me, I wonder why post this. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, lishisman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is distasteful are the continued accusations I keep recieving... I am trying to put the whole thing past me... Can YOU? For those of you keeping record... my first two posts were the same thing INTRODUCTION... I forgot to include something in the first... ref. 36615 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36615 and 36616 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36616 The third was a casting call looking for field coorespondants ref. 36618 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36618 The fourth was in response to send me your vlogs. ref. 36619 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36619 The fifth and sixth - number 5 I was proud of my first dual camera action, 6 I reposted cuz I didnt think 5 got through... ref. 36653 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36653 and 36654 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36654 Number 7 was my first try at stand up comedy... ref. 36701 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36701 Number 8/9 (accidental double post) I was pissed, in that after 4 days of posting to this forum I got ZERO responses. ref. 36752 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36752 and 36754 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36754 Numbers 10 WAS the ONLY so-called test I did that was marketing related... I posted DO NOT WATCH MY VIDEO TODAY And you know what I figured out? This was the first time I got responses out of any of you. I don't even know if I would consider it a test. It was just.. hey, I havent recieved any responses so what the hell? If I tell them not to watch will they?. Ref. 36916 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36916 Number 11 was another introductary post, that I did simply because I had gained some attention and wanted people to know me a little. This was the infamous self admission of me being a spammer, a failed attempt at humor... Which obviously no one got. Ref. 36949 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/36949 Do any you honestly think I dont know the difference between spam and not spam? If so, you are just plain STUPID. And wasting your time spelling it out for everyone here, is just STUPID too... NUMBER 12- 37030 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/37030 was the back breaker VLOGGERS UNITE, forget coming up with an idea EVER, the close mindedness, jealousy, whatever feelings came out in this thread are perfect examples of idiocracy. The following is an attempt at misinformation... At least know what your talking about before trying to dehumanize someone... [VLOGGERS UNITE was message #12 - it was preceded by 10 messages containing one line and then a link to the blog. That's the big problem. The small problem is that the 10 messages apparently was a market research experiment making the whole thing slightly unethical and very annoying. ] Did you even read the posts? Screw you for trying to make me look bad, fucking troll... Stephanie, You are the epitomy of hipocracy... You potray me to be some evil martketeer, yet you are marketing a product that anybody with half a brain could figure out for free. I sure it will make a wonderful refence three years from now when every point in the book is moot. Stop fucking attacking me. I am not the person you are painting a picture of... While I am on the subject of your useless banter... who died and left you boss of this group? Who asked you to determine what this group is, what it likes and dislikes? The difference between spam and not spam... it is all YOUR opinion you have no right to speak for a group of over 2000... Dont like that? Then dont stereotype me, or question who I am as a person... What the hell do you know about me? I know nothing about you, and until this post tried not to judge you... your book is probably great... and on impulse I probably would have bought it, I certainly would veer completely in the opposite direction... at this point I might even burn it on site. Oh and for the record, I emailed Steve Garfield from his vlog long before I knew he was even a member here or who any members here were to be honest. You see as a new vlogger, I didnt know of anybody else to talk to to get feedback on my vlog, I asked for his help once he said he would check it out, and then I checked with him a few days later, he emailed me saying that I didnt have to email him anymore, that was the extent of it. Please Mr. Garfield chime in anytime, right or wrong? I have grown to
[videoblogging] Re: VLOGGERS UNITE
I found nothing seriously distatasteful about the VLOGGERS UNITE thread from Jason, the original poster, and in his mea culpa, he brought up some issues that are important to me. Interesting commentI struggle myself when posting comments to the group. That is the maddening thing about email you never hear the intent behing the question or the comment. Something that sounds perfectly fine in your head sometime comes across as mean or just plain studid.. Now I will say I don't like it myself when someone posts a bunch of messages saying look at meI ignore those completly. And trust me I want as many people to come to my vlog as possible but I don't think you will get many visitors by being annoying. (or at least the being pecieved as annoying) I do agree with Stepanine in that I feel that this group is very open and receptive but it is hard for a new vlog to find it's place. But I have to remind myself, I have only been doing this since December of 2005, I am not even 6 months into this process. And there are a bunch of vlogs coming out everyday. I think in some ways people see this as the next big thing and if that is why you are doing thisyou may suceed but you may not.Me this is something I have always wanted to do..I'm an extrovert (I think that is how you spell it) so putting myself out there is nothing new. I have been doing that all my life, now I just let everyone else see how goofy I am... I vlog because it is fun..I do want people to watch,... I am not going to lie and I want to do other things as well. But for me this is a learning experience, this medium can be so powerful not because it can topple goverments or bring out the truth but by showing each other how much we have in common, that is what will break down barriers.IMHO... GeezI sound like a liberal ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting thread. Something that drives me crazy about this group is that there is some serious confusion about what is and is not spam. When someone posts about a vlog they are proud of, some people tend to think that it is spam. I actually apologized for spamming the group when I posted a piece that I was proud of (thanks for the feedback for all of you that viewed and reviewed it). I think that is a problem. I found nothing seriously distatasteful about the VLOGGERS UNITE thread from Jason, the original poster, and in his mea culpa, he brought up some issues that are important to me. Namely the fact that RSS is some kind of tool to get exposure. It is not a tool for exposure. It is simple distribution; it is shipping, more or less. I notice that most of the people who responded with angst in this thread have pretty good name recognition within this community. I am not attacking anyone, but I think that those of you who are established Vloggers don't really see the problems for getting exposure for a new Vlog. You all created this, and have deep (or not so deep) relationships with the other members of the community. People go to your Vlogs to learn. Your vlogs show up at the top of mefeedia, and have huge interconnected distribution channels because of that. There are now almost 7000 feeds at mefeedia. When I started Vlogging in December '05 there were 3000. How many were there when you started Vlogging? Exposure for vlogs is a problem, and it gets bigger everyday. Those problems are compounded when, in a group about video blogging, asking for people to check out your vlog is spam. As far as the VLOGGERS UNITE thread, I don't have a problem with it, and don't see it as spam, any more than I see this entire list as spam. I like this group, and have learned tons from it, but there is very little of what I got that I actually ask for. I appreciate the 'spam' on this list. It is some of the finest spam on the internet. I am not going to join that group, but I don't mind deleting one more of my 230 videoblogging messages in my inbox. I don't know what to do about the exposure problem, so this is kind of a meta piece, with probably little to no value, but I felt as if I should chime in and speak my mind. Oh yea, we just signed the paperwork for our new dog training studio, boutique and art gallery. snarkI will be posting video soon, and if it is good enough I will 'spam' the group with the info, mainly in the hopes that local vlogging hero Josh Leo will watch it and come out and vlog about it. Then maybe all of you will get a chance to see our new place. /snark Got to run. Time for a new coat of paint and to hang some sweet signage. Later, Ron Watson Pawsitive Vybe Canines 12 E Bridge St Suite G Rockford, MI 49341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 301.524.6670 http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com
[videoblogging] Re: Week of Vlogging Dangerously
Ok, Ok, I'm in as well..I have no idea what I will do but that's never stopped me before Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:36:04 +0200, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who needs to make the official ruling that this is happening?! I will. April 3rd to 9th to not conincide with Easter. Go crazy. Shoot some video. Promote it over the weekend. Tag it: videobloggingweek2006 At your favourite web service (but definitely at Technorati). -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Microsoft orders you to change your web-pages
Yeah, it will be real easy to get the 95% or so of people who use IE to just change Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/30/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they load your videos!!! this looks like there's going to have to be some workarounds I can think of one real easy one :) Michael Verdi wrote: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30643 Does this affect videobloggers? What do ActiveX controls do? -Verdi -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Just in case you're wondering...
I am sure it will be geek related...As I have used my outstanding detective skills to learn all I can about this move What did you expect? I call myself Batman Geek ;) Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o! I'm suspecting sci-fi ;) David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: Stephanie- I'm currently working on a brand new show, under a brand new name, with the subject matter I love most... I know it sounds cryptic, but give me a couple of weeks and all will be revealed. I'll make a quick announcement post here when I launch the new show. Casey --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Bryant mortaine@ wrote: What other projects are up next for you? --Stephanie (I haven't seen your latest post, so if it's in there, forgive me and i'll catch it this week.) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: I finally told my parents about Kitkast yesterday and they took it quite well. However, they are relieved to know that I'm moving onto other projects! From this day forward, I will be using my real name to vlog; Casey McKinnon. Yours, Casey (The artist formerly known as Kitka) -- Stephanie Bryant mortaine@ Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Blip
I haven't had any problems today or in the last few weeks for that matter. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm starting to think not a week goes by that I dont post this question. Anyone else experiencing slowness with Blip? It's been going on for me for 2 days with any vloggers site I visit that has their work on Blip. Got so bad for me that I finally just went and uploaded a copy to my own server so that people could actually watch the video. I'm trying to figure out if it's just my connection or Blip. However there are no problems for me with line speed tests or any other sites not hosting videos on Blip. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Wow...my first vlog!
I love it when people love comments as well. It truely makes you feel you made a connection with your audience ;) Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, gottadiva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments are my heroin. Ha ha, he he. That is so true. I get totally excited when someone takes the time to leave a comment on my vlog. It makes me feel like I've made a connection and been heard. Cheers Monique Danielle http://www.vlogdiva.com (latest webisode - common characteristics of bad website design). Some folks would go as far as to say that comments are part of what distinguishes a videoblog from just a podcast. :) comments allow for conversation welcome! J. Rhett Aultman wrote: gottadiva wrote: Hi, Welcome to vlogging. Seems like there is someone new here every day. I visited you vlog, but it said that I had to be logged in to leave a comment. So, I figured I would just post here. Well done vlog for a first timer, that's for sure! Thanks a big one. We're still up in the air about taking comments at the site itself. I had a copy of phpNuke up about two years ago and it was chronically hacked and spammed. Is it a standard practice to allow comments from anyone? -- Rhett. Yahoo! Groups Links . -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: French Against iTunes Store
I agree, a closed system no matter who it is from creates problems for us as in the end user, I should not have to break laws to listen to music I have leagaly purchased on whatever device I own. That is just stupid, IMHO Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other thing about iTunes/iPod is that no one else can sell copy-protected music for the iPod because iPod only supports Apple's DRM (which Apple does not allow anyone else to use). So its a completely closed system. No one else can sell copy-protected files for the iPod. You could sell non-DRM MP3 files, but often that is not secure enough for major companies to get on board with. So, it creates a monopoly. This is the kind of practice that people railed against Microsoft for engaging in only a few short years ago. -Josh On 3/22/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No iTunes proprietary system that sells music that can be sold on a single playerthe iPod. Yes songs can be burned to a CD and re- ripped but that's also a violation of the license. It's a monopolistic practice, and monopolies are bad for business. It's a good move by France I think against this ridiculous DRM HELL we currently find ourselves in. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga kunga@ wrote: Is it just me? I don't quite get what France is trying to do. You can burn songs you download from the iTunes Store to a CD and then rip for any player. So why are they claiming that Apple's Store and the iPod are a closed system? This seems like mostly a technological ignorance than a real argument. Even NBC reported this morning that songs you buy at the iTunes Store can only be played on an iPod which is simply not the truth. What's up with this journalistic/ legislative failure to understand and report/legislate based on the facts? If France outlaws the iTunes Store, it will also hurt us if Apple doesn't separate all the free podcasts from what they have for sale that is mis-perceived as only playable on iPods. -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: avid free dv alternative
I use the lite version of Sony Vegas it ended up costing me under 100 and it is really nice, I know they are looking for free but I have to say if you are on a PC Vegas is top notch and worth the investment Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try a free trial of Sony Vegas: http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/products/showproduct.asp? PID=965FeatureID=8191 -Josh On 3/20/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a friend who uses a camera that records in .mov files but since she has a pc, windows movie maker doesnt work with it... she tried downloading Avid Free DV but had some serious errors when trying to run it... so that it not an option does anyone know of any other free editing software for PC's that can handle .mov files? -- Josh Leo joshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.com wearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=OHeQJ Kby66gg3t35np-qiw Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=hK8TfZa7 ClhTIxDJdP6Cbw Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usec=3s=38.sig=fljF53rXtnOM jmpIySYbqA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Vloggers getting together
Thanks for the tip on when I do some traveling..I am going on a few trips this year so... Still if any Vloggers plan on doing something like a VloggerCon in Chicago, Indy, Michigan anywhere in the MidWest that would be great!! PS I have been spreading the word as much as I can, but if you have ever heard the old joke about CincinnatiMark Twain once said when the end of the world happens he wants to be living in Cincinnati because we are always ten years behind the rest of the world (something to that effect) But I am out there trying.. :) Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Carl Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Heath. I am in a similar situation here in Worcester, MA. I am the only one around, unless I want to drive an hour to Boston, which I end up doing fairly often. I recommend that when you travel, try to find vloggers to connect with. Jan McLaughlin made a whole road trip (Road Node 101) on this idea and had a great time. In addition, her multi-country trip brought a sense of unity to the vlogging communities she touched, showing us that the threads running through us as individuals also help sew the patchwork quilt that is our community. You can also create converts right there in Cincinnati. Do a vlogging demonstration so people can know what you are doing. I am sure you can find some interested folks over at U Cincy. Just a feeling. You have a powerful tool to help you create community. Show people what they don't know they are missing! Good luck and have fun. Cheers, Carl http://carlweaver.blogspot.com http://worcesterdiaries.blogspot.com/ Carl Weaver Photographer http://www.carlweaver.com -Original Message- From: hpbatman7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vloggers getting together OK, I know that there is VloggerCon in June in San Fran, however, not all of us can make it there. So I was wondering how often vloggers get together and where the popular spots for those get togethers seem to be. The reason I am asking is that I live in Cincinnat, the hotbed of the video revolution.I am kidding of course. Actually as of this moment I think I am Cincinnati's ONLY active vlogger..sad I know. Anyway I would like to meet some fellow vloggers through get togethers, online chat, whatever..So if anyone or anyones would be so kind to let me know I would forever be in your debt.OK not really but I would REALLY appreciate it. Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Vloggers getting together
That sound perfectly evil.I am going to be in Michigian, near DetriotNovi, in May the 19, 20, and maybe the 21st..maybe I can hook up with some vloggers there... Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:23:53 +0100, hpbatman7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still if any Vloggers plan on doing something like a VloggerCon in Chicago, Indy, Michigan anywhere in the MidWest that would be great!! EvilExpo in the Wonderful city of Detroit. Late July. Participation at your own risk. URL: http://www.thepan.tv/evilwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Top Ten Vlogging Mistakes
Well, as long as we are ranting an peeving, what really peeves me about other vlogs is that they get me hits than mine. :) just felt like being a smart.alec. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: O! Okay! got it. Sorry. : ) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy markus@ wrote: sh! don't mention pets that really peeves some folks on the list some guy complained a while back about cat videos and Richard BF's been uploading them ever since ;) missbhavens1969 wrote: I don't suppose we could start a rant and peeve thread about rants and pet peeves? Bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com -- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Ours MA PLPC Holistic_One@ wrote: There there, it's not like we can't start another thread to rant and peeve on some other subject... It'll be allright. Some people just don't get it Lisa From: Stephanie Bryant mortaine@ Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Top Ten Vlogging Mistakes Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:52:22 -0800 You really have no concept of the rants and pet peeves thread, do you? People like you spoil the fun for the rest of us. On 3/15/06, Josh Wolf inthecity@ wrote: -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: markus.sandy@ msn: msandy@ skype: msandy spin: markus@ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Fighting Copyright Ignorance with Comic Books
I became numb reading the comic.it was very good stuff and it really does highlight what is wrong with the current copyright situation..$10,000 for a 4 1/2 second clip of the Simpson's playing in the background in a documentary...that is just freakin stupid.I am left speechless, I really am.. Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Sorry if this has been posted already (man, it's hard to keep up with you guys), but I just wanted to post a note about a must-read comic book on copyright and fair use. The Center for the Study of the Public Domain, in an effort to educate content producers about the realities of copyright, have published an amazing comic book called Tales from the Public Domain: Bound by Law? (http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/) The comic book, available in various digital formats as well as on paper, is an entertaining, highly informative about the often-confusing world of copyright law. The book follows the story of a documentary maker putting together a film about life in New York City. (Trapped by a STRUGGLE she didn't understand By day a FILM MAKER... By night she fought for FAIR USE!) As she's gone around and captured scenes for her film, she's also picked up incidental uses of other people's work - a saxophonist playing a song, a sign in the background with a company logo, public TV screens showing images of Bart Simpson. These scenes are a reality of modern life, yet they're a nightmare for documentary producers. As the comic book notes, one producer was forced to remove footage that featured someone whose mobile phone ringtone happened to be the theme to the movie Rocky because they couldn't afford to pay the song's publisher $10,000 for including it. In other cases, important works like the civil rights documentary Eyes on the Prize get locked away for years because the producers couldn't afford to pay for the clearance rights of incidental music. (Thankfully, Eyes on the Prize will finally air again on PBS this fall, after years of fundraising to pay for clearance fees.) The question is, who's in the right? When does the incorporation of someone else's creative work into a new work constitute fair use, and when does it cross the line? Page after page, the comic goes through examples of producers who've found themselves in difficult circumstances because they allowed themselves to get pushed around by big-media lawyers - even when their use of someone else's content is justifiably fair use. It's intended to give producers confidence when it comes to using someone's content in a fair use context, explaining when the law is on their side and when it isn't. Read more here: http://www.andycarvin.com/ permalink: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/03/fighting_copyright_i.html -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.andycarvin.com -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: What makes a good vlog?
I really didn't mean to open a can of worms and like someone else pointed out I could have said what make a vlog popular. My intent was just to see if there was a standard and if so why. Based on all the comments it just seems to be No there is no standard which is great because I know good is a very subjective term, and I guess in my somewhat shallow way of thinking sometimes good=popular, which I know is not entirely true but hey, like I said sometimes I am shallow. ;) But also I was hoping people would point me to the stuff they like to help expand my horizon so to speak. Because I will say this there is a lot of stuff and trying to sort through it all can make for a long day :) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mrs. Ours MA PLPC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah that is such a loaded question... it's like asking...What makes a good salad? (please bear with me as almost all my analogies involve food or food preparation. I love to cook and it bleeds over). There are so many ways to make a salad and no real set WAY I mean a salad has a couple of ground rules... it's usually cold, and made with fresh ingredients of some kind and has some kind of dressing or sauce. After those ground rules are set... it's anyone's bag and I may hate a carrot raisin salad but I may adore an italian salad Even the way some people make the same salad can change my opinion. I adore my Mother-in- law's cranberry salad but I hate it when Aunt Helen makes it. So, what makes a good vlog is a hard thing to answer. I Love variety and my mood generally determines what's good today and what's good today may not be good tomorrow. I'm sure that some of my stuff isn't appealing to some... does that make it a bad vlog? of Course not. It means some people prefer other vlog material. What a wonderous gift we've been given as human beings... this lust and love of variety. Think about other animals that only eat specific things, only hunt certain prey or live in certain habitats... Wouldn't that suck? To be so llimited? I think for most of us we list the stuff we enjoy on our own sites under our show links. My list is ever expanding. There's just so much to see and then to link to it so other folks can enjoy it or not as they choose. I personally really enjoy that Most famous of Vlogs Richardshow.com But I also love Andy Carvin's vlog and they are certainly a small sample of the variety available in the Vlog universe. Variety, personal opinion, and a willingness to try something new. These are the factors within myself that determine what is good for me.but it certainly doesn't define what is good for someone else. My advice to anyone is always to explore. Check out as much as you can and create with your own special flair... Some people vlog sunsets, nature occuring as it occurs, and daisies growing. Some people would find that boring as hell. Get in touch with your inner film maker... film anything, everything, everywhere, anywhere... then watch your own footage... see what creative flow occurs. Sometimes you'll be surprised at what you yourself can create. Most importantly... Have fun with it. It's not worth doing if you're not having fun. Cheers! Lisa From: francisco_daum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: What makes a good vlog? Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:32:55 - Ah think it's about growth and improvement if not about being harmless. Take a look at notorious alcoholics like Jack Kerouac and Ernest Hemingway. I would have rather seen them die of natural causes instead of cirrhosis and suicide respectively. Maybe if they had the creative channel of vlogging they could have networked a lot better. We're just lucky we have their works available. Yeah so anyways good vlogging to me is about being harmless if not about growth and improvement. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, hpbatman7 heathparks@ wrote: I know I am opening a can of worms here (so to speak) and I may annoy some people with the question but.What makes a good vlog? I know that question is very subjective but I am new to all of this, just started at the end of December and I have been trying to find as many vlogs as possible. I have been to mefeedia, vlogdir, and of course just some old fashioned searching. I have found some I like, some I love and some. What's weird is that I am more drawn to things I never thought I would be, people and places, that probably under normal circumstances, I wuouldn't give 2 seconds to but now... I never saw myself as a reality person...maybe because the reality that regular TV trys to feed us, feels soUNreal. Now for me I like a mixture of stuff, ordinary, mixed
[videoblogging] Re: Stickam Re-Revolutionizes Video Blogging
The audio and video is really choppy, I have a 3mb connection so I am not sure why it would be so scattered. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need participants. Please. This is only one week old. Please go to my site to see and hear me live http://FutureMedia.org -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Mar 11, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Kunga wrote: http://stickam.com be there or be NOT LIVE. Click on my URL below and see and hear me LIVE NOW. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: What makes a good vlog?
On 3/9/06, hpbatman7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I am opening a can of worms here (so to speak) and I may annoy some people with the question but.What makes a good vlog? Honestly, if someone isn't funny, I eventually stop watching their personal vlog. Why? Well, to be honest, I get enough of everyday people being very everyday in the rest of my life. That's interesting..funny is important to me as well but not as important as I orginaly thought. And sometimes I like ordinary not everyday but I find it interesting meeting new people, maybe that's why I kinda like the ordinary, but I agree that after a while.. Caveat: If it's the vlog of someone I've met in person, or gotten to know elsewhere, then it's automatically interesting enough to watch. But not necessarily interesting enough to show other people. I would think the opposite would be true, at least for me, and don't you think that in a way you do get to know people from there vlogs? Especialy if they do share their lives. Interesting feedback Stephanie. --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: What makes a good vlog?
I have noticed a lot of short=good what is considered short under 5 minutes? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/10/06, hpbatman7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, if someone isn't funny, I eventually stop watching their personal vlog. Why? Well, to be honest, I get enough of everyday people being very everyday in the rest of my life. That's interesting..funny is important to me as well but not as important as I orginaly thought. And sometimes I like ordinary not everyday but I find it interesting meeting new people, maybe that's why I kinda like the ordinary, but I agree that after a while.. Yes, when I started, I liked watching everything, because it was endlessly fascinating to watch strangers' lives. I'm more selective now. I still subscribe to a bunch of vlogs that I don't watch much of. Caveat: If it's the vlog of someone I've met in person, or gotten to know elsewhere, then it's automatically interesting enough to watch. But not necessarily interesting enough to show other people. I would think the opposite would be true, at least for me, and don't you think that in a way you do get to know people from there vlogs? Especialy if they do share their lives. I do, which is why I subscribe to vlogs that I don't watch. I subscribe for a while, decide if I'm watching them regularly enough. If not, then I eventually take them off my main vlog subscriptions. Oh, and I'd second the short = good comment. The longest vlog I subscribe to is Icenrye, and I have to say, I think it could be about 1/4 the length. Frequently, a lot of it (20 minutes or more) is him just talking to the camera, which could be done just as well in text or even audioblog format on the site, and then save the video download MB's for the stuff that's actual video. BUT, I keep it as an example of long-format videoblogging. Unfortunately, it takes a very long time to download, and for power settings reasons, I can't just leave my downloads running overnight. --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: What makes a good vlog?
I know it's subjective, and I agree that when you get caught up in whats good or bad it is all a matter of opinion, I guess for me, as someone new, I just wondered, if there was a standard and if so why.. being a comic geek, we have these sort of debates all the time and personly I enjoy it because it forces my out of my comfort zone, to explore thoughts, opinion's, attitudes, etc that under normal circumstances I would never get exposed to. I find that interesting..of course I may be the only one ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christian Wach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Mar 2006, at 19:59, Devlon wrote: vlog like no one is watching LOL - for the vast majority of us, that's probably true. If you like it, it's good, if you don't, well, duh! ;) Anyone bold enough to claim they are objectively right? Thought not. My £0.02, Christian Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: What makes a good vlog?
True...but you could also make the same argument about popular as well...and I guess in my limited way of thinking sometimes I equate good as popular, which is stupid and limiting I know but hey I am working on it :) And I've learned I need to be a bit clearer in my thought process sometimes..although were is the fun in that. ;) Although I am glad people did give me examples of vlogs they like etc, I will have plenty of stuff to look at this weekend. Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christian Wach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Mar 2006, at 20:19, hpbatman7 wrote: I know it's subjective, and I agree that when you get caught up in whats good or bad it is all a matter of opinion, I guess for me, as someone new, I just wondered, if there was a standard and if so why.. Then perhaps you meant to ask: What makes a *popular* vlog? Good/bad questions will usually provoke flame wars since people tend to forget that they have no monopoly on truth, regardless of how much they may claim they do. :) Christian Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] What makes a good vlog?
I know I am opening a can of worms here (so to speak) and I may annoy some people with the question but.What makes a good vlog? I know that question is very subjective but I am new to all of this, just started at the end of December and I have been trying to find as many vlogs as possible. I have been to mefeedia, vlogdir, and of course just some old fashioned searching. I have found some I like, some I love and some. What's weird is that I am more drawn to things I never thought I would be, people and places, that probably under normal circumstances, I wuouldn't give 2 seconds to but now... I never saw myself as a reality person...maybe because the reality that regular TV trys to feed us, feels soUNreal. Now for me I like a mixture of stuff, ordinary, mixed with creativity, maybe because that is what I hope to accomplish on a regular basis. I also love the man on the street kinda things, inteviews and such (something I hope to get more comfortable doing) Here are a few of the vlogs I visit, http://missbhavens.blogspot.com/ http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com/ http://unholyknight.com/vlog/index.php http://joshleo.blogspot.com/ I am just curious what other vlogs people think are good and why. Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com You don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, you don't pull the mask off of the Lone Ranger and you don't mess around with Batman! (Hey I'm called Batman Geek, what did you expect?) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: myspace video
Which was kinda my point from my orginal post that was somewhat taken out of contextit is young now but will it still be in 5 years...I keep saying this but it seems to get drowned out.I mean bands, comedians, and now filmmakers are putting there stuff out in myspace to build buzz, promote feedback and to try thinngs out.wouldn't vlogging just be an extension of that? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Van Dijck wrote: is young but.and this is a big but.what if they continue to use it after High School and College? I think that's as unlikely as your daughter who is into goth still wearing those clothes in 10 years. I dunno, I still wear the same funny clothes I did almost 20 years ago. (Well, when I'm not working for the man.) Which is either something to be proud of, or ashamed of... I'm still not sure which. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: myspace video
I think by the very nature of how big myspace is would help vlogging I mean I think vlogging is about expressing yourself, and who is to say what is right or wrong about your expression (within reason of course)some of my vlogs are just about my everyday life and some are creative outlets. So am I a vlogger or an artist promoting his work? And could myspace allow me to do both? Honestly, I don't know but just based on the amount of conversation this has been generating I would have to say yes. But who really knows? Myspace may be forgetten in a year by the next big thing. It's an interesting question and debate and one I suspect that will be ongoing for a while --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question in this thread is, again, can vids.myspace.com benefit vloggers / vlogging. What do you think? How do you see it as benefiting vloggers/vlogging? Perhaps its good promotion for your content? I'm not really sure. Is it part of the shared ecosystem of the blogosphere? Doesn't really look like it. But maybe that's just my narrowminded opinion. :-) -Josh On 3/2/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh, yer talking' apples and tangerines there. Rocketboom is not what the majority of peeps are creating, from both creative and business perspectives. Your reply brings up the videoblogging definition matter - again. And the flash matter - again. We all get Rocketboom is different from drunk college kids' video. We all get that flash quality, sometimes, is not as good as other codecs. The question in this thread is, again, can vids.myspace.com benefit vloggers / vlogging. On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Just stating a fact. Their image quality looks bad. ... But in terms of audience... I would counter that Rocketboom gets a substantial regular audience (probably more so in frequency and return visits than any single vid in the MySpace/YouTube universe). Rocketboom is able to build a relationship with viewers ... ... Then again, a lot of people probably don't care that much about creative control or their own freedom. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: myspace video
I like your metaphor here and I do think it has merit, vlogging is still pretty new as well and who knows where it will lead but as others have said if you are looking at increasing your audience Myspace can not be ignored. However, I do think that the age group is young but.and this is a big but.what if they continue to use it after High School and College? Don't forget that this service is still pretty new in the big scheme of things, it could evlove into something vastly different than it is today. But again who knows and I do think we need to be open to various ideas and ways to blog,vlog or whatever. http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i talked a bit about myspace in a previous thread here i used a metaphor that myspace was like NYC and the blogosphere was like the rest of NY. if you dont venture into the city, you wont have as many connections to the connected to the culture, to the noise and chaos. If you hang out outside the city, more likely people will discover you based on your persistant efforts and quality but you can do much less of that and JUST be found by accidental persusings... people may check you out, move on. maybe someone interesting will connect with you. maybe not. is it good for vloggers/vlogging? think of it as casting a worm on a hook out into the water. maybe you'll catch something good. maybe nothing, maybe an old boot. the nice thing is, you can sit back and relax while that hook and worm is out their. you dont need to be active on myspace to potentially benefit from the user base. that is, if your looking for the people connection side of it. what about technically... the service. is that good and beneficial to vloggers? e. minimally, it is. but since i think their are better services from a technical perspective, i would not recommend myspace for its tech services. sull On 3/2/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see if we can begin to figure it out. I thinks there are several questions. 1) What do videobloggers want most? 2) What does videoblogging need most? The first question is probably more complex in that personal preferences intersect with and sometimes dominate the group interest. Back to the first. Methinks there is a very large audience over at myspace who are inclined towards shared experiences such as video production / audience. If this thinking is true then those vloggers who want larger audiences probably have something to gain. Isn't it easier to meet people if you venture beyond your clique sometimes? Seems sometimes it would benefit vloggers if we (a) encouraged the service providers who are non-native this group to participate, and (b) encouraged vloggers to experiment with, or at a minimum intellectually examine, alternative arenas. Regarding the second question, the group interest, it would be cool to hear from one of the vlogfathers. Does vids.myspace.com offer any benefit to vlogging / vloggers? On Mar 2, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: The question in this thread is, again, can vids.myspace.com benefit vloggers / vlogging. What do you think? How do you see it as benefiting vloggers/vlogging? Perhaps its good promotion for your content? I'm not really sure. Is it part of the shared ecosystem of the blogosphere? Doesn't really look like it. But maybe that's just my narrowminded opinion. :-) -Josh On 3/2/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh, yer talking' apples and tangerines there. Rocketboom is not what the majority of peeps are creating, from both creative and business perspectives. Your reply brings up the videoblogging definition matter - again. And the flash matter - again. We all get Rocketboom is different from drunk college kids' video. We all get that flash quality, sometimes, is not as good as other codecs. The question in this thread is, again, can vids.myspace.com benefit vloggers / vlogging. On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Just stating a fact. Their image quality looks bad. ... But in terms of audience... I would counter that Rocketboom gets a substantial regular audience (probably more so in frequency and return visits than any single vid in the MySpace/YouTube universe). Rocketboom is able to build a relationship with viewers ... ... Then again, a lot of people probably don't care that much about creative control or their own freedom. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
[videoblogging] Re: myspace video
I agree to some degree, I think it depends on if Myspace evloves or not, in it's current form you will outgrow it...but if grows and becomes a true social networking site then who knows..personaly I doubt it will evlove but.. I can't speak to Facebook but personaly I would like to have a site where you feel apart of a bigger community. I have a cirle of friends here where I live but when I go to shows (Comic Conventions, Wizard World, Dragon Con) I connect with a whole other sect of people who are into the same things I am and it's fun. I mean heck that is one of the reasons I am vlogging, to hopefully meet other people who like the same things I do.. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is young but.and this is a big but.what if they continue to use it after High School and College? I think that's as unlikely as your daughter who is into goth still wearing those clothes in 10 years. Now Facebook on the other hand I can really see that having longevity because your highschool/university classmates end up becoming your professional network too. Facebook may not be as loud as MySpace, but I feel like there's so much more potential there of course there is not yet an emphasis on video and most of the network is closed off if you don't have a .edu email address. Someone recently told me that the difference between MySpace and Facebook (many users have accounts in both social networks) is that MySpace is the avatar me and Facebook is the real me. Identities on MySpace are flexible and ever changing. Identities on Facebook are more tangible and persistent. As graduates move on from college, I'm sure they will be connected to their alumni network through Facebook. MySpace, I'm not so sure about. -Josh On 3/2/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is young but.and this is a big but.what if they continue to use it after High School and College? I think that's as unlikely as your daughter who is into goth still wearing those clothes in 10 years. Myspace is about unsupervised hanging out, friends and identity. That's why teens like it. Tomorrow's teens might use it in 5 years, but today's teens won't. Unless the site radically changes... Peter -- http://mefeedia.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Will people buy subscriptions
I agree, it may work but I don't think there is a market yet for paid podcasts or vlogs for that matter. Just think, how MANY shows do you listen to or watch and would you be willing to shell out 7 bucks here, 4 bucks, there and so on. I am sure there is a market to make money at podcasting and vlogging for that matter but I am just not sure HOW or WHEN that can happen. (Rocetboom is getting paid to advertise so I don't quite include them in this case because their content is still free) Maybe something similer to satilite radio.who knows. Wish them luck but my gut feeling is that it will fail. People only have so much money set aside for reoccuring bills.. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like Ricky Gervais and all but I think it's kinda high. I would rather pay twice as much and get satelite radio with more hours of programing than I can ever listen to in a month. Just think how much you would be shelling out to listen to all the stuff that you hear now for free if everyone charged that much for their podcasts. I'd be out hundreds of dollars a month. If he could charge much less, and keep a good part of his current audience he would probably make more money. I doubt that any significant portion of his audience will pay $7 a month. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r robert.videoblogging@ wrote: Hey all Here's another test of the market for subscriptions: An Audible subscription to the show will cost $7 a month in the US and £4.50 a month in the UK. For the money, you'll get four half hour shows. http://www.bit- tech.net/news/2006/02/20/ricky_gervais_podcast_paid/ Do you think enough peeps will pay or will they have to give in and revert to free distribution? Or will the content just end up available to anyone anywhere anyway? -- cheers r Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively my vlog: http://r.24x7.com good deal : http://foo.24x7.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: blip.tv having problems?
Not slamming them in any way, I think Blip is great they do a fantastic job, I just wanted to make sure I was not doing anything wrong or if it was just me running into the slow load times. That's all, I should have said that in the orginal post didn't think about it though.. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, Really, don't go knocking blip.tv or Blogger, they are a free service, of course they will have problems, the more people use the service the slower it gets, isn't that how computers work. I know it can be frustrating but remember what else do you get for free nowadays, not much I'll bet. Blimey! You think blip.tv is slow, hey, try the Archive! The only time you need to moan is when you have paid for a service that runs slow, right? But you don't get that happening, because the money is paying for a good service. These places that offer storage and distribution, God Bless 'Em, I think we should have more respect. Paul Knight On 5 Feb 2006, at 17:31, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, hpbatman7 heathparks@ wrote: Has anyone else noticed blip running real slow and sometimes even timing out? Yes. I have been having the same problems. Stan SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ⪠ Visit your group videoblogging on the web.  ⪠ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ⪠ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vlog http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com http://pjkweddingvideo.blogspot.com It's worth a laugh and (mostly) work friendly. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] blip.tv having problems?
Has anyone else noticed blip running real slow and sometimes even timing out? Just curious and I know people are still uploading and stuff but when I have go to view various videos it is VERY hit and miss, more miss the last day and a half and yeah blogger has been buggy as hell the last few days http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: blip.tv having problems?
Not intending to slam/knock them in any way, I think Blip does a fantastic job, and I love there service, I just wanted to make sure I was not doing anything wrong and to make sure it was not just me or my system... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, Really, don't go knocking blip.tv or Blogger, they are a free service, of course they will have problems, the more people use the service the slower it gets, isn't that how computers work. I know it can be frustrating but remember what else do you get for free nowadays, not much I'll bet. Blimey! You think blip.tv is slow, hey, try the Archive! The only time you need to moan is when you have paid for a service that runs slow, right? But you don't get that happening, because the money is paying for a good service. These places that offer storage and distribution, God Bless 'Em, I think we should have more respect. Paul Knight On 5 Feb 2006, at 17:31, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, hpbatman7 heathparks@ wrote: Has anyone else noticed blip running real slow and sometimes even timing out? Yes. I have been having the same problems. Stan SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ⪠ Visit your group videoblogging on the web.  ⪠ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ⪠ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vlog http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com http://pjkweddingvideo.blogspot.com It's worth a laugh and (mostly) work friendly. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] tracking site views
I have a question that may have been asked before but I did a search and did not see anything. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could recomend a hits counter/viewer, so I could see how many people are visiting my vlog. It is purely just out of curisioty, right now. I have seen some other vloggers with a lot of detailed information on there site and I know I'm not quite there yet but I want to learn as much as I can. Thanks for your time Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: question about sony vegas software
I am using the vegas program to create the titles, mostly, I do sometime use photshop but I get the results no matter what, I think it has to do my my compression settings (/) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are you creating your titles? Are you using a title feature of sony vegas or are you creating titles from a draw/paint program? Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, hpbatman7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the input.I forgot to mention that I also have some problems when I put text onto video, sometimes it will cause the picture to become blotchy, I noticed that if I rendered it using the 1mbs setting under, the .mov extentision it looked better, but the file size was bigger, I am guessing it is using a better compression setting? http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it is the transitions. What works on TV and movies does not necessarily work well with web video. My understanding of this is that you should try to avoid using transitions other than fades and dissolves. Now this is not a bad thing. If you can work around the constrictions you can come up with some nice looking stuff that will not hurt your visitor's eyes. However, for every rule cited someone will bring up a bunch of wonderful exceptions. I have used Swish Max (a low cost flash alternative) if I really wanted to create something that I can overlay in my video editing program. Just my two cents, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] New vlogger
Hello everyone, I just wanted to introduce myself...I am pretty new to all of this, just under a month. Now I could bore you all with a bunch of stuff or I could just ask you all to check out my vlog at http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com The title says it all, doesn't it? ;) Any way I am glad to be a part of the group and I am sure I will have questions in the near future and I hope to be able to provide answers someday myself. I hope to hear any thoughts or suggestions anyone may have on how I can improve my vlogs, so please feel free to comment, good, bad, indifferent, hey it's the only way you learn. :) Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
