Re: [videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
Hi All, Been looking @ some video blog sites and comparing to the one I'm building. I've imported two short videos I made, from YouTube just to chk compatibility, etc. They appear in a list format on the Home page/ Blog and I can add commentary if I choose so far so good. But now, I've been looking at other vid-blogs and some have a Player with selections in a list connected to the player either under the Player or to the side of the Player. Do you think that's a better format than the more traditional 'blog' style where each is listed in its own space? I know, content is important, nevertheless, I'd like to give the visitor a format that is user friendly but surprise them with the content. Opinions pleze. BTW, Richard Harrington likes lijit. So I checked it out. Thought OK, so I installed configured it as small, non-intrusive, no ads. Kinda neat, but the search on my site either had ads, or worse, if the subject was not found on my site it offered off-site locations...excse me! I deactivated the plugin, wrote lijit support with ??'s and awaiting response. I don't want ads at least for awhile. So back to WordPress Search for now and I'm ok with it. Any experience w/lijit or opinions? Inspirational Vid-blogs I should check-out? Thanx. Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com
Re: [videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Been looking @ some video blog sites and comparing to the one I'm building. I've imported two short videos I made, from YouTube just to chk compatibility, etc. They appear in a list format on the Home page/ Blog and I can add commentary if I choose so far so good. But now, I've been looking at other vid-blogs and some have a Player with selections in a list connected to the player either under the Player or to the side of the Player. Do you think that's a better format than the more traditional 'blog' style where each is listed in its own space? I know, content is important, nevertheless, I'd like to give the visitor a format that is user friendly but surprise them with the content. Opinions pleze. Mine is here: http://www.eevblog.com Around half my audience view me and subscribe via Youtube (not to mention find me in the first place). So it's essential you are on YouTube, simple as that. And when setting up my blog, I figured, well, seeing as that I'm on Youtube I might as well simply use embedded YouTube clips on my actual Wordpress blog site. So using any other video hosting technology or player seemed rather duplicative and pointless. And then there is the third or so that watch the lower res podcast via iTunes or whatever, and currently those are hosted on my own server which seems to be coping. So nothing fancy at all with my blog, just YouTube in wordpress with Feedburner RSS, and it all just works really well. The only downside I've found with this method is it's rather hard for people to find my older blogs on the site. There is no one big master list you can scroll through, just a jumbled mix of a Tag Cloud, keyword search, or Older entries view. YMMV of course. Dave.
Re: [videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
As a full disclosure Tom, Lijit is a previous client of mine. The Lijit widget is paid for on its end buy advertising. The reason it offers up other sites for the serach term is because it will provide information of the people in your network. You can configure the search results to default to your own blog initially and then to your network of friends and their blogs, then to the web etc. I am curious whether you also waited until the reports are sent out on Sunday evening. It provides valuable information about what searches brought people to your site, searches that people made on your site that do not provide results etc. The Lijit search function also allows people to get to other related search results within your site that might also interest them It will increase your page views from that standpoint. It may be that they can turn off ads on your search results and they actually have a revenue share from that end. I'll let them answer your questions directly and I know Tara Anderson and her staff would be happy to answer all the questions to your satisfaction. If not let me know and I will help where I can. Jim Turner On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Been looking @ some video blog sites and comparing to the one I'm building. I've imported two short videos I made, from YouTube just to chk compatibility, etc. They appear in a list format on the Home page/ Blog and I can add commentary if I choose so far so good. But now, I've been looking at other vid-blogs and some have a Player with selections in a list connected to the player either under the Player or to the side of the Player. Do you think that's a better format than the more traditional 'blog' style where each is listed in its own space? I know, content is important, nevertheless, I'd like to give the visitor a format that is user friendly but surprise them with the content. Opinions pleze. BTW, Richard Harrington likes lijit. So I checked it out. Thought OK, so I installed configured it as small, non-intrusive, no ads. Kinda neat, but the search on my site either had ads, or worse, if the subject was not found on my site it offered off-site locations...excse me! I deactivated the plugin, wrote lijit support with ??'s and awaiting response. I don't want ads at least for awhile. So back to WordPress Search for now and I'm ok with it. Any experience w/lijit or opinions? Inspirational Vid-blogs I should check-out? Thanx. Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com tomjdolan%40gmail.com -- Jim Turner One By One Media, LLC www.onebyonemedia.com www.bloggersforhire.com @Genuine this email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
Hi Jim, You know, this whole adventure is so new, and so I'm advancing a little more cautiously than I normally would. Actually, with so much bad/cautionary Press re: the web, I find it difficult to 'trust' unknowns. I did get into lijit quite late last nite and I'll take a look at it more closely. Thanx for your comments, Tom Dolan On Jan 31, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Jim Turner wrote: As a full disclosure Tom, Lijit is a previous client of mine. The Lijit widget is paid for on its end buy advertising. The reason it offers up other sites for the serach term is because it will provide information of the people in your network. You can configure the search results to default to your own blog initially and then to your network of friends and their blogs, then to the web etc. I am curious whether you also waited until the reports are sent out on Sunday evening. It provides valuable information about what searches brought people to your site, searches that people made on your site that do not provide results etc. The Lijit search function also allows people to get to other related search results within your site that might also interest them It will increase your page views from that standpoint. It may be that they can turn off ads on your search results and they actually have a revenue share from that end. I'll let them answer your questions directly and I know Tara Anderson and her staff would be happy to answer all the questions to your satisfaction. If not let me know and I will help where I can. Jim Turner On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Been looking @ some video blog sites and comparing to the one I'm building. I've imported two short videos I made, from YouTube just to chk compatibility, etc. They appear in a list format on the Home page/ Blog and I can add commentary if I choose so far so good. But now, I've been looking at other vid-blogs and some have a Player with selections in a list connected to the player either under the Player or to the side of the Player. Do you think that's a better format than the more traditional 'blog' style where each is listed in its own space? I know, content is important, nevertheless, I'd like to give the visitor a format that is user friendly but surprise them with the content. Opinions pleze. BTW, Richard Harrington likes lijit. So I checked it out. Thought OK, so I installed configured it as small, non-intrusive, no ads. Kinda neat, but the search on my site either had ads, or worse, if the subject was not found on my site it offered off-site locations...excse me! I deactivated the plugin, wrote lijit support with ??'s and awaiting response. I don't want ads at least for awhile. So back to WordPress Search for now and I'm ok with it. Any experience w/lijit or opinions? Inspirational Vid-blogs I should check-out? Thanx. Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com tomjdolan%40gmail.com -- Jim Turner One By One Media, LLC www.onebyonemedia.com www.bloggersforhire.com @Genuine this email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com
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Just a quick note as the moderator of this list. I notice that we have a thread here under Turnhere free videos, yet none of the discussions are about Turnhere. Please appease my obsessive compulsive behavior and start a new email thread with a new subject heading when changing topics. This helps make the conversations understandable in our email inboxes. Jay On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Been looking @ some video blog sites and comparing to the one I'm building. I've imported two short videos I made, from YouTube just to chk compatibility, etc. They appear in a list format on the Home page/ Blog and I can add commentary if I choose so far so good. But now, I've been looking at other vid-blogs and some have a Player with selections in a list connected to the player either under the Player or to the side of the Player. Do you think that's a better format than the more traditional 'blog' style where each is listed in its own space? I know, content is important, nevertheless, I'd like to give the visitor a format that is user friendly but surprise them with the content. Opinions pleze. BTW, Richard Harrington likes lijit. So I checked it out. Thought OK, so I installed configured it as small, non-intrusive, no ads. Kinda neat, but the search on my site either had ads, or worse, if the subject was not found on my site it offered off-site locations...excse me! I deactivated the plugin, wrote lijit support with ??'s and awaiting response. I don't want ads at least for awhile. So back to WordPress Search for now and I'm ok with it. Any experience w/lijit or opinions? Inspirational Vid-blogs I should check-out? Thanx. Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com -- http://ryanishungry.com http://momentshowing.net http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
I agree with all of you. $25-100 for 1-2 days work is not acceptable, and debases the market. There are a lot of filler video content work for QA sites being parcelled out that pays appallingly, as I think we discussed before. On the other hand, the proposition that was offered by Turnhere was that you shouldn't spend more than 3-4 hours in total (pre-production to delivery) making each 1 minute video, for businesses in walking distance from your house. They have a checklist, provide all the documents, etc. They don't want anything fancy - just a basic to- camera interview with some cutaways and a clip of the company's signage. So it should work out as $50-70 per hour. They also won't take on newbies or students - they require professional commercial experience. And have QA standards for everything submitted. I'm not sure about the WMV thing. They specify that you upload H264 3000kpbs 864x486, and talk about how they provide iPod/iPhone compatible files to show businesses. Odd that they have a WMV download for their intro webinar. I'm not pimping them - I haven't even signed up with them. The commoditization of video production concerns me because it affects the price and value of genuine creative filmmaking in this arena. But I just wanted to put it out there for discussion and get some of the facts clear. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 21 Jan 2010, at 04:12, Bohuš wrote: Hiya, Just a word of background, I do TV production for a living. Mostly independent stuff, but some broadcast stuff... I've been approached a lot by companies like this, especially start- ups. They want me to find ways to reduce costs, and still deliver a large percentage of what I do to clients. The problem is that I do actually have to make a living off of making video, and that's not going to happen if each one takes a day or two to make and the most I can hope to get is $25-100. It's great if you're on vacation, take a few fun videos, and then get a check for $25... that's great. The problem is when I'm asked to create videos with the same level of production that I usually charge many time more for. You're right... there are a lot of start-ups out there who think that the best business model is to create a venue for other people to do all the work, and then they make their cash off the backs of others. Ebay is a great example of that. They've created this quasi-community (less and less these days) and behave as if they were a store like Amazon (with special quasi-promotions, advertising, etc.), but they don't actually stock anything or even lick a postage stamp. They've made their fortune by creating this virtual market. That's fair since everyone is making a little something, but what do I get out of making a video review for $25-50? It's fine if you're having fun, but how to move to the next level? What affects me now is that many clients who approach me now think that this is the status quo for video production. I love the FLIP camera (I have several of them, after all...), but its ease has made my clients think that all video is just that easy. it's funny how shocked people are when they call me for a gig, and I don't jump at the chance to bring thousands of dollars worth of gear to their $200 shoot. Oh well, these topics have been covered before here so I'll quiet down. I love the video revolution, and I love that more people are using video to communicate than ever, but I don't love opportunistic companies who devalue the industries that they try to exploit. TurnHere.com, who are an agency who match up filmmakers with small businesses, have a new promo going for US Canadian filmmakers. You can offer free 1 minute videos to small businesses, and Turnhere will pay you $200 to make them. It's a very small amount of money, and is undercutting other people who are trying to do the same thing on an individual basis. But the requirements are much lower than your average bespoke video job. It's pretty much video by numbers. Turn up for an hour, shoot an interview with the proprietor, shoot some B roll, cut a 1 minute film, get paid $200. I looked into their business model. I'd want to here from video producers who did a lot of work for them. Seems more like http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia. Ironically, Turnhere's orientation video is a downloading WMV: http://producers.turnhere.com/orientation-webinar-video.html Guess some there doesn't know how to do simple transcoding? Sorry to be a scrooge, but I hate companies that just want to profit from other people's work. Like an Amway scheme. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://momentshowing.net http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links -- -- Bohus Blahut (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot) modern filmmaker
Re: [videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
It looks like video production is going the way of photography. It will be harder and harder to make a living from delivering high production quality video when it is increasingly in the hands of more people. It also means we'll see larger sums of money traditionally paid to one person be split up between a wider group of people. (i.e. in the example of this startup) Competition is an exciting thing. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: I agree with all of you. $25-100 for 1-2 days work is not acceptable, and debases the market. There are a lot of filler video content work for QA sites being parcelled out that pays appallingly, as I think we discussed before. On the other hand, the proposition that was offered by Turnhere was that you shouldn't spend more than 3-4 hours in total (pre-production to delivery) making each 1 minute video, for businesses in walking distance from your house. They have a checklist, provide all the documents, etc. They don't want anything fancy - just a basic to- camera interview with some cutaways and a clip of the company's signage. So it should work out as $50-70 per hour. They also won't take on newbies or students - they require professional commercial experience. And have QA standards for everything submitted. I'm not sure about the WMV thing. They specify that you upload H264 3000kpbs 864x486, and talk about how they provide iPod/iPhone compatible files to show businesses. Odd that they have a WMV download for their intro webinar. I'm not pimping them - I haven't even signed up with them. The commoditization of video production concerns me because it affects the price and value of genuine creative filmmaking in this arena. But I just wanted to put it out there for discussion and get some of the facts clear. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 21 Jan 2010, at 04:12, Bohuš wrote: Hiya, Just a word of background, I do TV production for a living. Mostly independent stuff, but some broadcast stuff... I've been approached a lot by companies like this, especially start- ups. They want me to find ways to reduce costs, and still deliver a large percentage of what I do to clients. The problem is that I do actually have to make a living off of making video, and that's not going to happen if each one takes a day or two to make and the most I can hope to get is $25-100. It's great if you're on vacation, take a few fun videos, and then get a check for $25... that's great. The problem is when I'm asked to create videos with the same level of production that I usually charge many time more for. You're right... there are a lot of start-ups out there who think that the best business model is to create a venue for other people to do all the work, and then they make their cash off the backs of others. Ebay is a great example of that. They've created this quasi-community (less and less these days) and behave as if they were a store like Amazon (with special quasi-promotions, advertising, etc.), but they don't actually stock anything or even lick a postage stamp. They've made their fortune by creating this virtual market. That's fair since everyone is making a little something, but what do I get out of making a video review for $25-50? It's fine if you're having fun, but how to move to the next level? What affects me now is that many clients who approach me now think that this is the status quo for video production. I love the FLIP camera (I have several of them, after all...), but its ease has made my clients think that all video is just that easy. it's funny how shocked people are when they call me for a gig, and I don't jump at the chance to bring thousands of dollars worth of gear to their $200 shoot. Oh well, these topics have been covered before here so I'll quiet down. I love the video revolution, and I love that more people are using video to communicate than ever, but I don't love opportunistic companies who devalue the industries that they try to exploit. TurnHere.com, who are an agency who match up filmmakers with small businesses, have a new promo going for US Canadian filmmakers. You can offer free 1 minute videos to small businesses, and Turnhere will pay you $200 to make them. It's a very small amount of money, and is undercutting other people who are trying to do the same thing on an individual basis. But the requirements are much lower than your average bespoke video job. It's pretty much video by numbers. Turn up for an hour, shoot an interview with the proprietor, shoot some B roll, cut a 1 minute film, get paid $200. I looked into their business model. I'd want to here from video producers who did a lot of work for them. Seems more like http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia. Ironically, Turnhere's orientation video is a downloading
Re: [videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
On the other hand, the proposition that was offered by Turnhere was that you shouldn't spend more than 3-4 hours in total (pre-production to delivery) making each 1 minute video, for businesses in walking distance from your house. They have a checklist, provide all the documents, etc. They don't want anything fancy - just a basic to- camera interview with some cutaways and a clip of the company's signage. So it should work out as $50-70 per hour. They also won't take on newbies or students - they require professional commercial experience. And have QA standards for everything submitted. Yeah, they seem to be doing a lot of marketing and reach out to video producers recently. I've heard of this offer from several different sources. And they way I understood it, for most jobs they send you...all they want is for you to shoot it. They edit the video in house. But I really wonder about their business model. If they're paying you $200 to record the video, and they have costs on the back end, what are they charging the clients for a stand up interview and some b-roll? I'd love to hear from someone who's done a job from them. Sounds like it's Video Production Company 2.0. I wonder if they'll go after the wedding market. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://momentshowing.net http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
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It looks like video production is going the way of photography. It will be harder and harder to make a living from delivering high production quality video when it is increasingly in the hands of more people. Totally agreed. But to be more specific, it's now now enough to have expensive equipment. You must also know how to use it. Now anyone can buy a Canon Mark V and make completely gorgeous photos and video without effort. The technology does it for you. But what will separate the competition is how the equipment is used. There's so much more to making a video than pushing a button. And people are just buying their own equipment and documenting themselves. When they hire someone else, its because they want something special. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://momentshowing.net http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
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Jay is so right. You can have the best tech all you want. Video storytellers are special and with the right exposure and talent they will make a living over someone who can buy a nice camera. Chris Sent from my mobile. On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like video production is going the way of photography. It will be harder and harder to make a living from delivering high production quality video when it is increasingly in the hands of more people. Totally agreed. But to be more specific, it's now now enough to have expensive equipment. You must also know how to use it. Now anyone can buy a Canon Mark V and make completely gorgeous photos and video without effort. The technology does it for you. But what will separate the competition is how the equipment is used. There's so much more to making a video than pushing a button. And people are just buying their own equipment and documenting themselves. When they hire someone else, its because they want something special. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://momentshowing.net http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
So much to catch up on here. Before I do, I thought I'd let you know about this: TurnHere.com, who are an agency who match up filmmakers with small businesses, have a new promo going for US Canadian filmmakers. You can offer free 1 minute videos to small businesses, and Turnhere will pay you $200 to make them. It's a very small amount of money, and is undercutting other people who are trying to do the same thing on an individual basis. But the requirements are much lower than your average bespoke video job. It's pretty much video by numbers. Turn up for an hour, shoot an interview with the proprietor, shoot some B roll, cut a 1 minute film, get paid $200. I also know a local business who is selling 3 minute films to local businesses for £1000-£1500 ($1700-2300) Anyway, there it is Rupert
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Thank you Rupert Nice heads up :) Ernie @ernmander http://www.ernmander.com On 20/01/2010 20:22, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: So much to catch up on here. Before I do, I thought I'd let you know about this: TurnHere.com, who are an agency who match up filmmakers with small businesses, have a new promo going for US Canadian filmmakers. You can offer free 1 minute videos to small businesses, and Turnhere will pay you $200 to make them. It's a very small amount of money, and is undercutting other people who are trying to do the same thing on an individual basis. But the requirements are much lower than your average bespoke video job. It's pretty much video by numbers. Turn up for an hour, shoot an interview with the proprietor, shoot some B roll, cut a 1 minute film, get paid $200. I also know a local business who is selling 3 minute films to local businesses for £1000-£1500 ($1700-2300) Anyway, there it is Rupert [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
TurnHere.com, who are an agency who match up filmmakers with small businesses, have a new promo going for US Canadian filmmakers. You can offer free 1 minute videos to small businesses, and Turnhere will pay you $200 to make them. It's a very small amount of money, and is undercutting other people who are trying to do the same thing on an individual basis. But the requirements are much lower than your average bespoke video job. It's pretty much video by numbers. Turn up for an hour, shoot an interview with the proprietor, shoot some B roll, cut a 1 minute film, get paid $200. I looked into their business model. I'd want to here from video producers who did a lot of work for them. Seems more like http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia. Ironically, Turnhere's orientation video is a downloading WMV: http://producers.turnhere.com/orientation-webinar-video.html Guess some there doesn't know how to do simple transcoding? Sorry to be a scrooge, but I hate companies that just want to profit from other people's work. Like an Amway scheme. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://momentshowing.net http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
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Hey Jay, Turnhere had a camera operator interview me and I assume he also cut the piece together. http://www.turnhere.com/blog/favorite-videos/the-future-of-online-video-by-tim-street-part-1/ If he got $200 for shooting and editing this simple interview that took about 30 minutes to set up and shoot blocks away from his house I think it's a pretty fair deal for him. Tim On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Jay dedman wrote: TurnHere.com, who are an agency who match up filmmakers with small businesses, have a new promo going for US Canadian filmmakers. You can offer free 1 minute videos to small businesses, and Turnhere will pay you $200 to make them. It's a very small amount of money, and is undercutting other people who are trying to do the same thing on an individual basis. But the requirements are much lower than your average bespoke video job. It's pretty much video by numbers. Turn up for an hour, shoot an interview with the proprietor, shoot some B roll, cut a 1 minute film, get paid $200. I looked into their business model. I'd want to here from video producers who did a lot of work for them. Seems more like http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia. Ironically, Turnhere's orientation video is a downloading WMV: http://producers.turnhere.com/orientation-webinar-video.html Guess some there doesn't know how to do simple transcoding? Sorry to be a scrooge, but I hate companies that just want to profit from other people's work. Like an Amway scheme. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://momentshowing.net http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Turnhere free videos
Hiya, Just a word of background, I do TV production for a living. Mostly independent stuff, but some broadcast stuff... I've been approached a lot by companies like this, especially start-ups. They want me to find ways to reduce costs, and still deliver a large percentage of what I do to clients. The problem is that I do actually have to make a living off of making video, and that's not going to happen if each one takes a day or two to make and the most I can hope to get is $25-100. It's great if you're on vacation, take a few fun videos, and then get a check for $25... that's great. The problem is when I'm asked to create videos with the same level of production that I usually charge many time more for. You're right... there are a lot of start-ups out there who think that the best business model is to create a venue for other people to do all the work, and then they make their cash off the backs of others. Ebay is a great example of that. They've created this quasi-community (less and less these days) and behave as if they were a store like Amazon (with special quasi-promotions, advertising, etc.), but they don't actually stock anything or even lick a postage stamp. They've made their fortune by creating this virtual market. That's fair since everyone is making a little something, but what do I get out of making a video review for $25-50? It's fine if you're having fun, but how to move to the next level? What affects me now is that many clients who approach me now think that this is the status quo for video production. I love the FLIP camera (I have several of them, after all...), but its ease has made my clients think that all video is just that easy. it's funny how shocked people are when they call me for a gig, and I don't jump at the chance to bring thousands of dollars worth of gear to their $200 shoot. Oh well, these topics have been covered before here so I'll quiet down. I love the video revolution, and I love that more people are using video to communicate than ever, but I don't love opportunistic companies who devalue the industries that they try to exploit. TurnHere.com, who are an agency who match up filmmakers with small businesses, have a new promo going for US Canadian filmmakers. You can offer free 1 minute videos to small businesses, and Turnhere will pay you $200 to make them. It's a very small amount of money, and is undercutting other people who are trying to do the same thing on an individual basis. But the requirements are much lower than your average bespoke video job. It's pretty much video by numbers. Turn up for an hour, shoot an interview with the proprietor, shoot some B roll, cut a 1 minute film, get paid $200. I looked into their business model. I'd want to here from video producers who did a lot of work for them. Seems more like http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia. Ironically, Turnhere's orientation video is a downloading WMV: http://producers.turnhere.com/orientation-webinar-video.html Guess some there doesn't know how to do simple transcoding? Sorry to be a scrooge, but I hate companies that just want to profit from other people's work. Like an Amway scheme. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://momentshowing.net http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links -- -- Bohus Blahut (BOH-hoosh BLAH-hoot) modern filmmaker Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
