[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-22 Thread Bill Cammack
That's interesting that some people call 911 because they're lonely! :D My point was basically that abuse can't be removed from any system built to protect or monitor someone. The best you can do is get the system started and HOPE that people give factual information and HOPE that everything

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-22 Thread Rick Rey
Here's a report from the DOJ on the abuse of 911 calls: http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/mime/open.pdf?Item=470 This is not a new problem. -Rick On 12/22/06, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Abuse can't be avoided, for the reasons someone stated before. The best > bet with a > system li

[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-22 Thread Bill Cammack
Abuse can't be avoided, for the reasons someone stated before. The best bet with a system like that would be to have the emergency information hidden and only accessed via a button on the user's page. Even then, as Edmund stated, there's nothing stopping someone from using the button when i

[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-22 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones
This made me recall the "Death of a videoblogger Kevin Kutz" hoax last April. When the social lines defining reality from fiction are blurred, less attention is paid. There is then just so much noise. We never found out what Kevin learned from the post other than that he needed sleep. Stan ht

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-22 Thread Deirdre Straughan
It sounds reasonable, though it would be tricky to ensure that the contact actually is good and stays good - they'd have to do a round of verification, and check it now and then. However, I should think MySpace would be powerfully motivated - they've had so much bad press and panicky parent reacti

[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note -Solution

2006-12-21 Thread Zadi
I've been mulling over a few ideas for the past couple of days and I came up with this: What if MySpace (or any social networking site) had an "in case of emergency, contact" form that you had to fill out when you signed up? Just like how when you enroll in a school or go to the doctor's office t

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-20 Thread Deirdre Straughan
employed by the service. > > > > > > Perhaps the person who was hired to police porn on MySpace could > do it. > > > They certainly aren't doing that job so they must have free time. > > > > > > Robyn > > > > > > From: videobl

[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-20 Thread Edmund Yeo
t; > > Robyn > > > > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Lan Bui > > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:52 PM > > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note > >

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-20 Thread Rick Rey
ired to police porn on MySpace could do it. > They certainly aren't doing that job so they must have free time. > > Robyn > > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lan Bui > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:52 PM > To: vide

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Robyn Tippins
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:52 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note Sure we would want to help them. In this case someone did, in other cases someone didn't. Are any of you willing to quit your job to patrol myspace (or any other

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Lan Bui
27;s fault, or not, don't we want to help them not die? Robyn From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lan Bui Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:16 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note I really think a

[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Zadi
r it's a > parent's fault, or not, don't we want to help them not die? > > > > Robyn > > > > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lan Bui > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:16 AM > To: videoblogging@yahoogroup

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Deirdre Straughan
A parent can do their best to raise their child to be happy, healthy, honest, and whole. I'm fortunate - so far, it's working. Many parents are not so fortunate, for a host of reasons which are often not their fault. Children are individuals in their own right from the get-go, and parents don't hav

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Deirdre Straughan
ault, or not, don't we want to help them not die? > > Robyn > > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ] > On Behalf Of Lan Bui > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:16 AM > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > Subjec

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Robyn Tippins
mber 19, 2006 11:16 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note I really think a child's actions are the parents responsibility. If you see a child get caught stealing something in a store, who does the store want to talk to? Now stealing isn&#

[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Heath
I'm not saying you shoudn't "know" your kids, I have 2 myself, raised them for 15 years, they are 21 and 18 now. I have done and continue to do the best I can along with my wife. But at some point, when is a child no longer a child? When did you want to start being your own person?.suici

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Lan Bui
I really think a child's actions are the parents responsibility. If you see a child get caught stealing something in a store, who does the store want to talk to? Now stealing isn't suicide but just because it is really really horrible doesn't make it less the parents responsibility to know

[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Heath
Making a blanket statement like that is very shortsigted, it's easy to find "warning" signs after the fact and sometimes just sometimes, you never know why someone committed suicide, that doesn't make it the parents fault. Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogro

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Deirdre Straughan
I'm not sure about that. MySpace has reacted in a big way to all the media hysteria about sexual predators. This is a chance for them to be seen as helping young people rather than providing an arena for them to get hurt. Zadi, it wouldn't surprise me if the press picks up on this, and if they don

[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-19 Thread Heath
It will never happen, the liability factor alone would prohibit a "panic button"...Zadi and Ricky you did what you could and you did the right thing.Yes you were lucky the school information was posted and if it wasn't I..well I am just glad it was.I could say more but this subj

[videoblogging] Re: MySpace Suicide Note

2006-12-18 Thread Gena
I think the protocol is exactly what you did and Rick did. It was the adult thing to do. There may have been other teens that read that note and didn't know what to do. Let's play it the other way, it could have be a hoax or cry for help. The kid would have gotten a minor boost out of it but then