andy) Wicker
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Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:50
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Subject: [videoblogging] Re
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> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
>
>
> i think i will setup a new section called vlogdirty... the porn room.
> ;-)
>
> sull
>
>
> On 12/1/05, petertheman < [EMAIL PR
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From:
Michael
Sullivan
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:31
PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on
mefeedia??
i think i will setup a new section called vlogdirty... the porn
room.;-)sull
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petertheman
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 9:15
PM
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on
mefeedia??
Hey Jay,yes, I noticed it as well. It was inevitable, I
am actua
petertheman wrote:
>
>>know that I'm sometimes not even sure if I should want videos in
> FireANT
>>when my kids are in the room.
> Yep. It's a complex issue. I just want to make sure we provide
> solutions that scale and that work, but don't censor. There is enough
> censorship out there.
Agre
> I wouldn't go with G, PG, X type ratings... As mentioned, 'adult'
> doesn't always mean X, etc. Perhaps following the iTunes model of
> marking things as 'mature' or 'explicit' or whatever might work.
>
> For people not logged in, I would filter out all 'mature' content. For
> people who are
y) Wicker
Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280
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From:
Wong Teck
Jung
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:29
AM
Subject
> I have to say I feel concerned about the free distribution of adult
> and violent videos by individuals, versus the law-abiding, lawyer-
> retaining mainstream producers who have to keep on file documents
> regarding the actor's age, animal welfare, explosives permits, etc.
>
> So my question is;
petertheman wrote:
> Hey Jay,
> yes, I noticed it as well. It was inevitable, I am actually surprised
> it took this long..
> Any comments?
Well, it's sad, but as a directory, I suppose it's something you have to
deal with. Some ideas...
I wouldn't go with G, PG, X type ratings... As mentioned
perhaps someone's willing to do sth like vlog-monitor?
On 12/2/05, Deirdre Straughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/2/05, Wong Teck Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netiba
>
> I've never heard of NetIBA before (just looked it up), wh
On 12/2/05, Wong Teck Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netiba
I've never heard of NetIBA before (just looked it up), which may or may
not prove anything. But, for a business with money behind it, there is
incentive to pay for something like th
we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netiba
On 12/2/05, Deirdre Straughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/2/05, Frank Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter.
> > I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone
On 12/2/05, Frank Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter.I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might (deliberately oraccidentally) mis-categorize something.
Yes, of course, but... I don't think that any of the sites which
pur
Friday, December 2, 2005, 6:42:08 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
> My suggestion on the porn:
> Have a ratings system, so that everyone who submits a feed has to tag it
> "rated G" "rated X" or whatever.
> If a feed is rated X, replace any thumbnails with "Adult Content" or some
> such in a graphic.
The smart ones know it and adjust to constant change ;)
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't tell advertisers that ;)
>
> On 12/2/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The number of factors, complexity and randomness of human
> > characteristic
Don't tell advertisers that ;)On 12/2/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The number of factors, complexity and randomness of human
characteristics make it currently unlikely to precisely calculate
worth for a large population. Another factor is that human beings are
volitional and self-de
The number of factors, complexity and randomness of human
characteristics make it currently unlikely to precisely calculate
worth for a large population. Another factor is that human beings are
volitional and self-determined, therefore self-creating. So future
predictions are likely to fail.
-
Ok, it's late...that first part didn't make sense, but you know what I mean.
On 12/2/05, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And those in control of the make up of an individual's make up
> (nature, nurture take your pick) are in control of the determination
> of value.
>
> And those with money an
And those in control of the make up of an individual's make up
(nature, nurture take your pick) are in control of the determination
of value.
And those with money and power may play a big role in one's make up,
so they can feed thier own value.
On 12/2/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And
And both determination of value can be objective to the different make
up of those individuals.
-- Enric
http://www.cirne.com
Determine the Media
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ah, of course. One might find one thing incredible valuable, and
ano
Ah, of course. One might find one thing incredible valuable, and another would not.On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If financial worth is equal to audience interest and that interest is subjective, is financial worth then subjective?On 12/1/05,
Devlon <
[EMAIL PROTECTED
If financial worth is equal to audience interest and that interest is subjective, is financial worth then subjective?On 12/1/05, Devlon <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Depends on who's interested, it's subjective. That gives
community involvement more value. It's (ideally at least) a more
temper
Depends on who's interested, it's subjective. That gives
community involvement more value. It's (ideally at least) a more
tempered view.
On 12/1/05, Digital Buddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I like your thinking Sull. Is worth based on interest? hmm...
- TedOn 12/1/05, Michael Sullivan <
[
I like your thinking Sull. Is worth based on interest? hmm...
- TedOn 12/1/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
if coke does a videoblog, i'd be happy to let it be listed in the vlogdir. i like coke.On 12/2/05,
Michael Sullivan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:i
dont think the decisio
i dont think the decision should emphasize a pro or anti-commercialism of video feeds. well, thats of course up to peter... but i assure you that you wont be able to keep an open directory pure of commercial media or commercially driven media. and, i dont necessarily feel that its presence in
if coke does a videoblog, i'd be happy to let it be listed in the vlogdir. i like coke.On 12/2/05, Michael Sullivan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:i dont think the decision should emphasize a pro or anti-commercialism of video feeds. well, thats of course up to peter... but i assure you that you w
On 12/1/05, southvalleymobiletelevision <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just when I thought it was safe to go out and educate my community
> (of all ages) on vlogging, one of the sample videos I was displaying
> from http://www.blogtelevision.net/ had a broken link. So I went to
> go find it or an
Just when I thought it was safe to go out and educate my community
(of all ages) on vlogging, one of the sample videos I was displaying
from http://www.blogtelevision.net/ had a broken link. So I went to
go find it or another one, for samples for referral page web video
hosts.
It looks like th
Glad to know there are guy out there ready to put themselves on the line for the greater good of mankind. :)
Joan
On 12/2/05, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Being the bold intrepid explorer that I am, ventured on to this site to> see what all the fuss was about and> found...
> Being the bold intrepid explorer that I am, ventured on to this site to
> see what all the fuss was about and
> found...
> FREE PORN Downloadable and up to 1/2 hour long. Another thing
> grabs me though, all of this material was not made by the owner of the
> sit
Is there anyway to force a thumb nail warning label requirement on porn
postings? I think
it should be treated like cigarettes...Adults have the right to smoke all they
want, but the
gov forces cigarette manufacturers to put a warning label on the package.
Bill Day
mebillday.blogspot.com
HI guys,
Being the bold intrepid explorer that I am, ventured on to this site to see what all the fuss was about and found...
FREE PORN Downloadable and up to 1/2 hour long. Another thing grabs me though, all of this material was not made by the owner of the site,
i think i will setup a new section called vlogdirty... the porn room.;-)sullOn 12/1/05, petertheman <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:--- In
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont> want to. In
Flickr does that 'flag this content' although it makes you feel like you are
reporting it,
when in reality, I'm pretty sure it just puts it in a specific category. And in
things like
Google Image Search, adult/mature content is set to OFF by default. That kind
of system
could work.
ER
-
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont
> want to. In order to gain a lasting trust with the users of your
> system, however, I think it would be important for you to provide a
> Why not provide an option for users to flag certain content as
> questionable or offensive, then put that content/feed into moderation
> queue for possible removal.
Flagging is another thing we're working on. The key is this though: I
don't want to remove feeds like Richard's, even though they
I agree. I think short of censorship, rating or categorizing would be best.
Tags might be able to help sort out some porn and violent videos from the others.Joan
On 12/2/05, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dontwant
Why not provide an option for users to flag certain content as
questionable or offensive, then put that content/feed into moderation
queue for possible removal.
-Josh
On 12/1/05, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont
I don't think you should be required to sensor anything if you dont
want to. In order to gain a lasting trust with the users of your
system, however, I think it would be important for you to provide a
rating system for adult content.
Its not just for kids - I would like to see an alert that
> > I personally am not opposed to porn but when it comes up so
> blatantly we as vloggers are
> > going to need to find away so that when we are showing new people
> "youth" how to Vlog
> > and the tools that are available that this stuff does not hit us in
> the face.
This is by the way exac
Hey Jay,
yes, I noticed it as well. It was inevitable, I am actually surprised
it took this long..
So here's the plan we have, for now. In a few months we'll probably
add more features. I have given this some thought over the past
months, and there is a balance: I want mefeedia to be an open
direc
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to throw something out to the vlogger community.
> I just went to check mefeedia site. Because of an email from Devlon
and was bummed to
> see some one had submitted a Iporn site which was inevitable.
>
> I pe
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