Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
On 1/18/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:02 PM, wtrainbow wrote: Even though you might not be making money now if you do in the future they could so for back royalties with interest and that could feasibly be a handsome chunk of change. Interesting you should say that... if someone starts to make money you could legaly structure yourselves and incoporate to avoid liabilities from the original practices... it's quite simple actually. Yes and no. If it's obvious that was your intent, a judge can pierce the corporate veil. It would be better to plan not to create illegal content in the first place. -- -m http://www.secretelite.com/michael Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
� wrote: I do strongly advise you slowly move your workflow into a completely podsafe arena... I've recently registered as a podcaster with podsafe music network and used one song in a vlog entry. Reading the above statement made me wonder what the artists terms on pmn specify so here is a c/p of http://music.podshow.com/music/artistTerms.htm : [snip] Listener does suggest that the intent is for the music to be used in an audio recording The Podsafe terms are definitely aimed at audio, not video. Contrast that with Magnatune, which took my suggestions and added in a bit for videobloggers: http://magnatune.com/artists/license/podcast Video blogs can put a credit at the end of their video of the form The song 'song name' by 'artist name' used by permission from www.magnatune.com Maganatune gets it when it comes to licensing music. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that -- a promotional tool / ad. View Askew wants them to spread as far as possible. yet technically still illegal. It would be unwise to spread the idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're promoting them. Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same). So - even though you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it. Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) . It could be construed that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under copyright law. What if, down the line, you do end up making a profit from your work? Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue. brett IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights, record companies, etc). On 1/18/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under the guidelines of fair use. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Look people... I've used short clips of video and music under Fair Use and have not infringed on anyone's copyrights. All clips (and notice I use the word 'clips' because I have never used someone else's work in full, only in part under Fair Use) are used for news and criticism. Go here for the Coles notes version - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use Thank you and goodnight... [Elvis has left the building] Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that -- a promotional tool / ad. View Askew wants them to spread as far as possible. yet technically still illegal. It would be unwise to spread the idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're promoting them. Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same). So - even though you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it. Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) . It could be construed that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under copyright law. What if, down the line, you do end up making a profit from your work? Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue. brett IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights, record companies, etc). On 1/18/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under the guidelines of fair use. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:56:45 +0100, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look people... I've used short clips of video and music under Fair Use and have not infringed on anyone's copyrights. All clips (and notice I use the word 'clips' because I have never used someone else's work in full, only in part under Fair Use) are used for news and criticism. Just to clarify (I haven't seen your videoblog). Works have to be the subject of the news or criticism to be considered fair use. E.g. background music used in a book review is not fair use - quoting the book is. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
I don't think I've seen the episode with the Clerks2 reference but in past episodes, uses of other peoples work has been used in reference to news or critisism, no different than rocketboom's usage.On 1/19/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:56:45 +0100, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look people... I've used short clips of video and music under Fair Use and have not infringed on anyone's copyrights. All clips (and notice I use the word 'clips' because I have never used someone else's work in full, only in part under Fair Use) are used for news and criticism. Just to clarify (I haven't seen your videoblog). Works have to be the subject of the news or criticism to be considered fair use. E.g. background music used in a book review is not fair use - quoting the book is. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.comVlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
The section of the clip from the clerks2 crit that we used, did not have any music in it.On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Brett Gaylor wrote: can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that -- a promotional tool / ad. View Askew wants them to spread as far as possible. yet technically still illegal. It would be unwise to spread the idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're "promoting" them. Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same). So - even though you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it. Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) . It could be construed that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under copyright law. What if, down the line, you do end up making a profit from your work? Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue. brett IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights, record companies, etc). On 1/18/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under the guidelines of fair use. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service .YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Clever boy.On 1/19/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The section of the clip from the clerks2 crit that we used, did not have any music in it.On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Brett Gaylor wrote: can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that -- a promotional tool / ad. View Askew wants them to spread as far as possible. yet technically still illegal. It would be unwise to spread the idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're promoting them. Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same). So - even though you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it. Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) . It could be construed that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under copyright law. What if, down the line, you do end up making a profit from your work? Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue. brett IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights, record companies, etc). On 1/18/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under the guidelines of fair use. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? Also, what about the rights for those commericals at the end? http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/01/rb_06_jan_17.html The reason I ask is because we use copyrighted music all the time, as well as screencasts from Google Earth. I haven't been too worried about getting busted because we're still smalltime. Also, searching the pod-safe music sites is a daunting task and my ears begin to bleed after listening to tons of crappy songs (not to say all of it is crap). Anyways, it would provide big publicity if Google or the RIAA censored a video blog. Is there a bigger risk of getting busted if a vlog has sponsorship money? Just want to get ideas from others. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez you'd think they could afford a decent mic, though :) On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Ted Tagami wrote: Jay, what a great find! Two thoughts: (1) the celebrity of the filmmakers is one thing, but its great just to see friends get together and discuss the work and process, and for us to have a lens into that process. (2) damn good marketing wonder if any of these guys subscribes to the group... ;) Damn, that's exactly what I was thinking too... cellebrities are people too :) Sometimes media and the people in it get so abstracted we forget they're human... I think this is one of the legacies of Ebay.. .it turned buyers into sellers and taught us all something about the person on the other end of the phone or other side of the counter. Vlogging is a humanizing thing indeed. And also damn good marketing. :) On 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S . N E T -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=_ypWGVVDWUSpuxYaJQCHhA Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=ZN1ChvogeamDt5UU6pqRYQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=JJpiF0el7XIZm7_UQJThew Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Explainsw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=UJhUAw_ybLAhU1YhEOb9AA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? I'm no lawyer, but if you're providing free advertising for something I don't believe you'll get into any trouble unless you are: a) using the copyrighted material to make fun of it; b) using the copyrighted material to promote something the artist may be against (eg. pornography, politics, etc.); c) making money from using their copyrighted material. I don't know about Rocketboom, but when I used copyrighted music on my last show, I made a direct link to the Amazon page where you can purchase the CD. Since they get free advertising as well as a link to sell more albums, I doubt that they will ever complain. The good thing about doing this is that you can sign up with Amazon Associates and if anyone buys the product you can make 5% of the profits. (My theory should work, but I haven't made a cent yet...) In any case, the Clerks 2 web site is set up as a videoblog, so why would Rocketboom get into any trouble... it seems to me that Kevin Smith just wanted to generate buzz (and that's exactly what Rocketboom contributed to). Besides, I bet you five bucks that Kevin Smith is a Rocketboom fan... Amanda Congdon is too cute to evade his radar. Kitka Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Yeah, we are an Amazon affiliate and link from the vlog post to the album that contains the song we're using... but 90% of our traffic is coming from iTunes so most viewers do not have the context of our site. (Damn iTunes!) I realize that using copyrighted music is 100% illegal, but wonder if there is a bigger risk of getting busted if the site contains sponsorship, which means we're making money off the content (including the song used). This is probably a worthless topic since any way you look at it is illegal. Oh well, I have no plans of changing any time soon since the RIAA has bigger fish to fry. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? I'm no lawyer, but if you're providing free advertising for something I don't believe you'll get into any trouble unless you are: a) using the copyrighted material to make fun of it; b) using the copyrighted material to promote something the artist may be against (eg. pornography, politics, etc.); c) making money from using their copyrighted material. I don't know about Rocketboom, but when I used copyrighted music on my last show, I made a direct link to the Amazon page where you can purchase the CD. Since they get free advertising as well as a link to sell more albums, I doubt that they will ever complain. The good thing about doing this is that you can sign up with Amazon Associates and if anyone buys the product you can make 5% of the profits. (My theory should work, but I haven't made a cent yet...) In any case, the Clerks 2 web site is set up as a videoblog, so why would Rocketboom get into any trouble... it seems to me that Kevin Smith just wanted to generate buzz (and that's exactly what Rocketboom contributed to). Besides, I bet you five bucks that Kevin Smith is a Rocketboom fan... Amanda Congdon is too cute to evade his radar. Kitka Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Oh wait... I've made 87 cents from Amazon Associates, yay. Well, if you direct your audience from your vlog to go to LeanBackVids.com then I don't think you should be at fault for people watching in iTunes. Besides, I wonder if there's some way of disclaiming the music you use by saying it was taken from a shared music source... with all the legal jargon rolling around, there must be a way to get out of that kind of lawsuit. I would worry more if you do have a sponsorship. It would be a responsible move to make sure that you are using music that you are authorized to use. I have no doubt that as the web grows more communial, it will not be as difficult to use a piece of music in vlogs. My best advice is to play it safe for now by either adding a disclaimer or linking to the product... the other option is to make friends with record executives... BTW, the only reason Kitkast took on a 1930s Hollywood theme is because I was trying to find music that was open source! Alot of these old movies and songs are open source so I got a lot of stuff off archive.org to use for my intro/outro! Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, we are an Amazon affiliate and link from the vlog post to the album that contains the song we're using... but 90% of our traffic is coming from iTunes so most viewers do not have the context of our site. (Damn iTunes!) I realize that using copyrighted music is 100% illegal, but wonder if there is a bigger risk of getting busted if the site contains sponsorship, which means we're making money off the content (including the song used). This is probably a worthless topic since any way you look at it is illegal. Oh well, I have no plans of changing any time soon since the RIAA has bigger fish to fry. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? I'm no lawyer, but if you're providing free advertising for something I don't believe you'll get into any trouble unless you are: a) using the copyrighted material to make fun of it; b) using the copyrighted material to promote something the artist may be against (eg. pornography, politics, etc.); c) making money from using their copyrighted material. I don't know about Rocketboom, but when I used copyrighted music on my last show, I made a direct link to the Amazon page where you can purchase the CD. Since they get free advertising as well as a link to sell more albums, I doubt that they will ever complain. The good thing about doing this is that you can sign up with Amazon Associates and if anyone buys the product you can make 5% of the profits. (My theory should work, but I haven't made a cent yet...) In any case, the Clerks 2 web site is set up as a videoblog, so why would Rocketboom get into any trouble... it seems to me that Kevin Smith just wanted to generate buzz (and that's exactly what Rocketboom contributed to). Besides, I bet you five bucks that Kevin Smith is a Rocketboom fan... Amanda Congdon is too cute to evade his radar. Kitka Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Ms. Kitka wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? I'm no lawyer, but if you're providing free advertising for something I don't believe you'll get into any trouble unless you are: a) using the copyrighted material to make fun of it; b) using the copyrighted material to promote something the artist may be against (eg. pornography, politics, etc.); c) making money from using their copyrighted material. when I used copyrighted music on my last show, I made a direct link to the Amazon page where you can purchase the CD. Since they get free advertising as well as a link to sell more albums, I doubt that they will ever complain. The good thing about doing this is that you can sign up with Amazon Associates and if anyone buys the product you can make 5% of the profits. (My theory should work, but I haven't made a cent yet...) I'm am also 'not a lawyer' and since no one has ever been able to explain 'fair use' to me in a way I can feel safe about, and I don't want to risk going to court over it, I've stayed away from using material I do not have the right to use. Kitka, you seem to contradict yourself: I don't believe you'll get into any trouble unless you are making money from using their copyrighted material. and then you go on to say that you might be making money via sales from Amazon. Isn't this making money from using their copyrighted material? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Kitka, you seem to contradict yourself: I don't believe you'll get into any trouble unless you are making money from using their copyrighted material. and then you go on to say that you might be making money via sales from Amazon. Isn't this making money from using their copyrighted material? Pete Good point, Pete, but the difference is quite clear; while I'm making a few cents off the sale of their album, I'm not making any money by using the music on my vlog... the money is made by using a perfectly legitimate advertising service on my blog site. So, when I said I've made 87 cents, the money was made from the text link on my blog site, not by embedding the link somehow into my vlog (which is probably do-able since I think Rocketboom does that with their story links). If a record exec has a problem with the money I make from Amazon Affiliates, they can go ahead and sue Amazon. Seriously, though... a begger makes more money on the street than I do from Amazon. Kitka Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ms. Kitka wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? I'm no lawyer, but if you're providing free advertising for something I don't believe you'll get into any trouble unless you are: a) using the copyrighted material to make fun of it; b) using the copyrighted material to promote something the artist may be against (eg. pornography, politics, etc.); c) making money from using their copyrighted material. when I used copyrighted music on my last show, I made a direct link to the Amazon page where you can purchase the CD. Since they get free advertising as well as a link to sell more albums, I doubt that they will ever complain. The good thing about doing this is that you can sign up with Amazon Associates and if anyone buys the product you can make 5% of the profits. (My theory should work, but I haven't made a cent yet...) I'm no lawyer either but my sense is this kind of policy is setting yourself up for a lawsuit. I think it's very, very risky to use anyone else's footage or music unless they expressly allow it through a creative commons license or some other deal with you. For example, I avoid using music unless it's got a CC license, it's public domain, I've licensed it, or I've gotten permission from the owner/publisher. I often license tracks from productiontrax.com, which offers a decent database of music and lower prices for noncommercial licensees. And I'm always pleasantly surprised how many music publishers let me use their work gratis; it's just a matter of asking nicely and explaining how you'll use it. But these are usually mom 'n pop music labels I'm dealing with. If it were a major Hollywood studio, I'd tread very carefully. Would they sue? Maybe not. But if you become a repeat offender they may change their minds. You can claim fair use all you want; but if you're repackaging someone else's content and making it available for an international audience, you may ruffle some feathers andy carvin www.andycarvin.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Hi, i am (thankfully perhaps) not a lawyer, but am interested in media copyright issues. Here is a excerpt of the wikipedia article on Fair Use. A quick look suggests that critising, commenting or reporting on a thing does allow you to use parts of it (to make a point such as rocketboom). I don't think that the profitability of your work matters when considering weather you can cite fair use of another work. --begin wikipedia excerpt-- Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include— 1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; 2. the nature of the copyrighted work; 3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and 4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.[1] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:38:08 +0100, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? I'm no lawyer, but if you're providing free advertising for something I don't believe you'll get into any trouble unless you are: a) using the copyrighted material to make fun of it; Parody is actually one of the few things you can go far with. b) using the copyrighted material to promote something the artist may be against (eg. pornography, politics, etc.); Irrelevant. What matters is whether you're using copyrighted material or your own material. It does not matter what causes you may or may not be promoting. c) making money from using their copyrighted material. Making money makes it worse. Making no money does not mean what you're doing is legal. Fair Use rights have been discussed on this list more than once. Myths keep appearing, even new ones. Free advertising is one of these myths. I keep recommending that videobloggers educate themselves. It's all fun and games until you get a cease and desist letter. Buy a college text book on mass media laws and read it. I've read Dom Pember Mass Media Law and I recommend it because it covers all applicable laws, not just copyright (privacy, libel, trademark etc.). I don't know about Rocketboom, but when I used copyrighted music on my last show, I made a direct link to the Amazon page where you can purchase the CD. Since they get free advertising as well as a link to sell more albums, I doubt that they will ever complain. Just because they haven't found out about your use doesn't make it legal use. The good thing about doing this is that you can sign up with Amazon Associates and if anyone buys the product you can make 5% of the profits. (My theory should work, but I haven't made a cent yet...) Even worse. As you mentioned above making money on copyright infringement is never a good idea. In any case, the Clerks 2 web site is set up as a videoblog, so why would Rocketboom get into any trouble... it seems to me that Kevin Smith just wanted to generate buzz (and that's exactly what Rocketboom contributed to). We don't know what Kevin Smith intended. As long as he hasn't given explicit permission you can't do anything apart from Fair Use. Period. With that said I believe rocketboom's use does fall under Fair Use. IANAL and all that. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? Also, what about the rights for those commericals at the end? http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/01/rb_06_jan_17.html The reason I ask is because we use copyrighted music all the time, as well as screencasts from Google Earth. I haven't been too worried about getting busted because we're still smalltime. Also, searching the pod-safe music sites is a daunting task and my ears begin to bleed after listening to tons of crappy songs (not to say all of it is crap). Anyways, it would provide big publicity if Google or the RIAA censored a video blog. Is there a bigger risk of getting busted if a vlog has sponsorship money? Just want to get ideas from others. Matt, There are all sorts of legal issues... and I suggest doing whatever's in your power to secure rights or simply use podsafe or creative commons materials that explitiely state how you can use them. That siad there is one final rule of thumb I go buy... and truely any great legal mind would tell you this under the table. Lawsuits ALWAYS follow the money... therefore if you're not making any money you'll have some leway... In short I don't think you have much to worry about unless your planing on sub licensing or selling your content in the future. I do strongly advise you slowly move your workflow into a completely podsafe arena... because with so much great openly licensced media out there, particularly music there's just no need to take any risks. That said I think rocketboom is getting into a big grey area because of their celebrity. 1) the videosphere is not as well devleloped and therefore not as much content is explicitely licensced for use with vlogs and other open access media. Therefore rocketboom must draw on grey area content. 2) though I don't know how much money they're making yet their celebrity puts them in a precarious spot... they're high visibility... somone in fact might be tempted to sue them not because they're necissarily making money of this media, but because of the added bonus of free publicity. That said I love and respect what rocketboom is doing with creative remixing and reuse of content... and I think though we may suffer some set backs this MUST be the way of the future. To opt out of remixing, redistribution and reuse unnecisarily is to opt out of the evolving marketplace and the new economy of information... indreasingly as this new economy grows I ecpect they'll be more incentive for arists and even incumbent media to open up their libraries for creative reuse on at least some level. In summary... the winds of change are blowing in favor of a more liberal fair use, but we must be careful of setbacks that will happen... primarily due greed and misunderstanding. Every artist down here on the ground floor know the value of creative reuse... but people not on the ground floor of this revolution may not get it AT all. Proceed with caution, but enjoy, experiment and do great and flattering things for those artists who's materials you reuse. Site them heavily and very favorably. Peace, -Mike -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez you'd think they could afford a decent mic, though :) On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Ted Tagami wrote: Jay, what a great find! Two thoughts: (1) the celebrity of the filmmakers is one thing, but its great just to see friends get together and discuss the work and process, and for us to have a lens into that process. (2) damn good marketing wonder if any of these guys subscribes to the group... ;) Damn, that's exactly what I was thinking too... cellebrities are people too :) Sometimes media and the people in it get so abstracted we forget they're human... I think this is one of the legacies of Ebay.. .it turned buyers into sellers and taught us all something about the person on the other end of the phone or other side of the counter. Vlogging is a humanizing thing indeed. And also damn good marketing. :) On 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under the guidelines of fair use. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I do strongly advise you slowly move your workflow into a completely podsafe arena... I've recently registered as a podcaster with podsafe music network and used one song in a vlog entry. Reading the above statement made me wonder what the artists terms on pmn specify so here is a c/p of http://music.podshow.com/music/artistTerms.htm : -begin quote 2 a (the artist grants pmn) ...the right to allow others to reproduce each Work for the purpose of Broadcasting the Work, including the right to use and incorporate each Work into a Collective Work, which may itself be Broadcast 1 Definitions Broadcast means Work or an acceptable Derivative Work thereof that is played publicly for the benefit of interested listeners, and particularly when such Work is played by a listener accessing a digital file such as a podcast or streaming media file. Podcast means a specific type of Broadcast, where the Work is incorporated into a file (which may contain one or more works and/or other material) which may be streamed, or played on a computer, on an MP3 player or similar device by individuals who have downloaded such file. -end quote Listener does suggest that the intent is for the music to be used in an audio recording Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Even though you might not be making money now if you do in the future they could so for back royalties with interest and that could feasibly be a handsome chunk of change. Using copyrighted music is complicated. You need permission from the owner of the composition and the owner of the recording. Often times these aren't the same. Here is info on licensing http://www.ascap.com/weblicense/ Here good explanation of fair use http://www.soundexchange.com/licensing101.html#a19 Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? Also, what about the rights for those commericals at the end? http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/01/rb_06_jan_17.html The reason I ask is because we use copyrighted music all the time, as well as screencasts from Google Earth. I haven't been too worried about getting busted because we're still smalltime. Also, searching the pod-safe music sites is a daunting task and my ears begin to bleed after listening to tons of crappy songs (not to say all of it is crap). Anyways, it would provide big publicity if Google or the RIAA censored a video blog. Is there a bigger risk of getting busted if a vlog has sponsorship money? Just want to get ideas from others. Matt, There are all sorts of legal issues... and I suggest doing whatever's in your power to secure rights or simply use podsafe or creative commons materials that explitiely state how you can use them. That siad there is one final rule of thumb I go buy... and truely any great legal mind would tell you this under the table. Lawsuits ALWAYS follow the money... therefore if you're not making any money you'll have some leway... In short I don't think you have much to worry about unless your planing on sub licensing or selling your content in the future. I do strongly advise you slowly move your workflow into a completely podsafe arena... because with so much great openly licensced media out there, particularly music there's just no need to take any risks. That said I think rocketboom is getting into a big grey area because of their celebrity. 1) the videosphere is not as well devleloped and therefore not as much content is explicitely licensced for use with vlogs and other open access media. Therefore rocketboom must draw on grey area content. 2) though I don't know how much money they're making yet their celebrity puts them in a precarious spot... they're high visibility... somone in fact might be tempted to sue them not because they're necissarily making money of this media, but because of the added bonus of free publicity. That said I love and respect what rocketboom is doing with creative remixing and reuse of content... and I think though we may suffer some set backs this MUST be the way of the future. To opt out of remixing, redistribution and reuse unnecisarily is to opt out of the evolving marketplace and the new economy of information... indreasingly as this new economy grows I ecpect they'll be more incentive for arists and even incumbent media to open up their libraries for creative reuse on at least some level. In summary... the winds of change are blowing in favor of a more liberal fair use, but we must be careful of setbacks that will happen... primarily due greed and misunderstanding. Every artist down here on the ground floor know the value of creative reuse... but people not on the ground floor of this revolution may not get it AT all. Proceed with caution, but enjoy, experiment and do great and flattering things for those artists who's materials you reuse. Site them heavily and very favorably. Peace, -Mike -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez you'd think they could afford a decent mic, though :) On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Ted Tagami wrote: Jay, what a great find! Two thoughts: (1) the celebrity of the filmmakers is one thing, but its great just to see friends get together and discuss the work and process, and for us to have a lens into that process. (2) damn good marketing wonder if any of these guys subscribes to the group... ;) Damn, that's exactly what I was thinking too... cellebrities are people too :) Sometimes media and the people in it get so abstracted we forget they're human... I think this is one of the legacies of Ebay.. .it turned buyers into sellers and taught us all something about the person on the other
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:02 PM, wtrainbow wrote: Even though you might not be making money now if you do in the future they could so for back royalties with interest and that could feasibly be a handsome chunk of change. Interesting you should say that... if someone starts to make money you could legaly structure yourselves and incoporate to avoid liabilities from the original practices... it's quite simple actually. Using copyrighted music is complicated. You need permission from the owner of the composition and the owner of the recording. Often times these aren't the same. Here is info on licensing http://www.ascap.com/weblicense/ Here good explanation of fair use http://www.soundexchange.com/licensing101.html#a19 Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser groups-yahoo- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? Also, what about the rights for those commericals at the end? http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/01/rb_06_jan_17.html The reason I ask is because we use copyrighted music all the time, as well as screencasts from Google Earth. I haven't been too worried about getting busted because we're still smalltime. Also, searching the pod-safe music sites is a daunting task and my ears begin to bleed after listening to tons of crappy songs (not to say all of it is crap). Anyways, it would provide big publicity if Google or the RIAA censored a video blog. Is there a bigger risk of getting busted if a vlog has sponsorship money? Just want to get ideas from others. Matt, There are all sorts of legal issues... and I suggest doing whatever's in your power to secure rights or simply use podsafe or creative commons materials that explitiely state how you can use them. That siad there is one final rule of thumb I go buy... and truely any great legal mind would tell you this under the table. Lawsuits ALWAYS follow the money... therefore if you're not making any money you'll have some leway... In short I don't think you have much to worry about unless your planing on sub licensing or selling your content in the future. I do strongly advise you slowly move your workflow into a completely podsafe arena... because with so much great openly licensced media out there, particularly music there's just no need to take any risks. That said I think rocketboom is getting into a big grey area because of their celebrity. 1) the videosphere is not as well devleloped and therefore not as much content is explicitely licensced for use with vlogs and other open access media. Therefore rocketboom must draw on grey area content. 2) though I don't know how much money they're making yet their celebrity puts them in a precarious spot... they're high visibility... somone in fact might be tempted to sue them not because they're necissarily making money of this media, but because of the added bonus of free publicity. That said I love and respect what rocketboom is doing with creative remixing and reuse of content... and I think though we may suffer some set backs this MUST be the way of the future. To opt out of remixing, redistribution and reuse unnecisarily is to opt out of the evolving marketplace and the new economy of information... indreasingly as this new economy grows I ecpect they'll be more incentive for arists and even incumbent media to open up their libraries for creative reuse on at least some level. In summary... the winds of change are blowing in favor of a more liberal fair use, but we must be careful of setbacks that will happen... primarily due greed and misunderstanding. Every artist down here on the ground floor know the value of creative reuse... but people not on the ground floor of this revolution may not get it AT all. Proceed with caution, but enjoy, experiment and do great and flattering things for those artists who's materials you reuse. Site them heavily and very favorably. Peace, -Mike -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez you'd think they could afford a decent mic, though :) On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Ted Tagami wrote: Jay, what a great find! Two thoughts: (1) the celebrity of the filmmakers is one thing, but its great just to see friends get together and discuss the work and process, and for us to have a lens into that process. (2) damn good marketing wonder if any of these guys subscribes to the group... ;) Damn, that's exactly what I was thinking too... cellebrities are people too :) Sometimes media and the people in it get so abstracted
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
What's really interesting is that View Askew itsself is using unliscensed copyrighted music in the Clerks 2 videoblogs. (Namely, in this case, 'The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly' main titles by Sergio Leone.) Under Fair Use, Andrew is showing a clip of it. What about the music? Every Clerks2 vlog is using music. I don't think they're concerned about it -- just don't raise any flags, because I've been enjoying them ;-)Beyond which -- as per the 'can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that -- a promotional tool / ad. View Askew wants them to spread as far as possible.On 1/18/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under the guidelines of fair use. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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re copyright for music - I believe the laws are different in different countries. fair use does not apply everywhere. it would be wise to contact your countries music collection organisation/s for any queries as they will know what applies to you and be able to offer advice. there are also different requirements regarding publishing and mechanical rights as well as artist/creator rights. eg APRA/AMCOS covers Australia/NZ. here's a link to the list of reciprocal orgs they have arrangements with in other countries in case you're not sure of who your local org is. otherwise google should be able to tell you. http://www.apra.com.au/corporate/AffiliateSocieties.asp cheers Kath ps - a quick list request - is it possible for people to trim posts when replying/quoting. saves excessive scrolling. thanks. -- http://www.aliak.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? here is Kevin Smith's feed: http://clerks2.com/clerks2ipod.xml Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
That's pretty cool Jay, thanks for the feed... that's going right on my ipod subscription list... BTW, do you dig up new stuff like this every week? -Mike On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Jay dedman wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? here is Kevin Smith's feed: http://clerks2.com/clerks2ipod.xml Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
It's a great videoblog. Check out the first entry for his fantastic intro to the series(http://clerks2.com/?p=5)The videoblogs themselves are made by Zak Knutson and Joey FigueroaOn 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? here is Kevin Smith's feed: http://clerks2.com/clerks2ipod.xml Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Pretty cool. Nice to see Smith getting feedback on his movie and the process. Good god though, Tarantino (the person, not his movies) bugs the shit outta me. Always has...always will. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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yeah, right up there with King Kong ;) Ronen wrote: It's a great videoblog. Check out the first entry for his fantastic intro to the series (http://clerks2.com/?p=5) The videoblogs themselves are made by Zak Knutson and Joey Figueroa On 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? here is Kevin Smith's feed: http://clerks2.com/clerks2ipod.xml Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
That's pretty cool Jay, thanks for the feed... that's going right on my ipod subscription list... BTW, do you dig up new stuff like this every week? im always finding cool videos in my aggregator. we're working on makiing tagging easier so people (like me) could become a filter channel. ill sort through hundreds of videos so you dnt have to. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
I used to when this thing began subscribe to the entire pipe of something like blogdigger media feeds and well a half dozen other sources... now the pipe is soo damn fat it'd take me a month to look at a 24 hour slice of such media. I haven't in fact taken a look at what's coming out of the firehose in about 6 months.. but at some point I'll probably will if only to get a good sense of how things are progressing... What are people sharing... what are the trends... what's new and unexpected... it's not something you do everyday. What I'm looking for is new levels of filters... more practical filters that I can integrate into my day to day so I will be subscribing to your feed jay. BTW, one of the things I've been playing with recently is favorited video feeds on mefeedia... I expect I'll be playing with them on flickr too... We need much better systems, particularly ones that use favoriting and tagging to filter and organize media through aggregat actions... it's what delicious does but not very well with media. -Mike On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Jay dedman wrote: That's pretty cool Jay, thanks for the feed... that's going right on my ipod subscription list... BTW, do you dig up new stuff like this every week? im always finding cool videos in my aggregator. we're working on makiing tagging easier so people (like me) could become a filter channel. ill sort through hundreds of videos so you dnt have to. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
