if there was confusion!
Cheers,
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Very good, Eugene. I buy a mandolin, and you buy a vihuela. The world
keeps turning...
Enjoy it - an amazing repertoire.
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2009/10/1 Eugene C. Braig IV [1]brai...@osu.edu
Greetings fellow punteadophiliacs:
Nothing to tickle your scholarly mental muscles
Your page seems to be working now. 'Jane' got removed some time ago.
She comes back in various guises but I have managed to remove her each
time. She also visits other ning groups.
All seems OK for the present.
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For Sale
Baroque Guitar by Alexander Batov. Flat back, 67cms string length.
Aquila gut strings, nylgut set in Kingham professional case. Used on
recordings and videos by Rob MacKillop. MP3 files on
[1]www.SongOfTheRose.co.uk and YouTube videos at
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today are free to use it or reject it.
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Very useful, David, and sensible. I like the way you show the voice
movement in the tab part - bar 30, for instance, now makes much more
sense. Any chance of a sound file?
I'll provide a link from my vihuela site.
Rob
2009/6/1 David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
, and then, with a
slightly coarse but well tuned voice, he sang the following Romance
that he himself had written that day Cervantes, 1615.
Rob
2009/5/24 David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Nelson, Jocelyn [2]nels...@ecu.edu
wrote
And now I've added an mp3 of the Francesco da Milano original (Ness 15)
which Valderabbano used as the basis for his Soneto primero grado 92a
[1]http://www.vihuela.eu/study.htm
Makes for an interesting comparison.
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2009/5/23 Nelson, Jocelyn [1]nels...@ecu.edu
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I've uploaded four of Valderrabano's 'primero grado' sonetos:
[1]http://www.vihuela.eu/study.htm really excellent fantasias and
nowhere near as difficult as those by Fuenllana, Narvaez, Mudarra, etc.
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2009/5/23 Stuart Walsh [1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com
Rob MacKillop wrote:
I've uploaded four of Valderrabano's 'primero grado' sonetos:
[1][2]http://www.vihuela.eu/study.htm really excellent fantasias
!
Rob
2009/5/23 John Griffiths [1]jag...@unimelb.edu.au
Hi Rob: some of these sonetos are actually fantasias by
Francesco da
Milano!
John
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the word 'easy' in quotation
marks. I like the pieces, and stand by my statement that they are much
easier than Fuenllana and many of the other solo pieces in the
repertoire.
Yes, I use gut strings in unison on the 5th and 6th courses - Aquila
'Venice' - very nice.
Rob
to the medieval citole?
Are there any images which clearly show the pendola in use?
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mentioned that pendola means feather - so that gives us a
good idea of what was used.
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Thanks, Monica. A free translation indeed.
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, maybe.
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differently, and you must
find your own way eventually, but hopefully this will help.
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Is there a modern edition of Narvaez's songs? I started to do my own,
but I'm finding it difficult reading the words. I am using the CDRom
edition which reproduces the red ink for the voice parts, but the words
are very difficult to read.
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Alas, poor me. Could you email me a copy, Rocky?
Rob
2009/5/10 Stuart Walsh [1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com
Mjos Larson wrote:
Oh, dear! Thanks for the report.
It did work when I downloaded it just now.
Anyone else having a problem?
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No problems at all. Lots
I couldn't open the file, Rocky. I downloaded it twice. Same problem -
a window saying the file was corrupted. Anyone else have this problem?
Normally I have no such problems with your pdfs.
Rob
2009/5/10 Mjos Larson [1]rockype...@earthlink.net
I have uploaded an updated
French tab as well??!! What is happening to you, Monica? Pandering to
the unwashed?
Rob
2009/4/25 Monica Hall [1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
I am pleased to announce that I have revised my pieces by
Foscarini on
my [1][2]www.earlyguitar.ning.com site. I have added
Well done, Monica. Good work, as usual. Maybe Rocky could give you some
formatting tips?
Rob
2009/3/26 Monica Hall [1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
I have just uploaded my edition of 13 pieces by Playford arranged
for
5-course guitar in the Princess Anne book to my
2009/2/18 Monica Hall [1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Rob might like to know that in 1702 Kremberg was lute teacher to the
children of Lady Griseli Baillie of Mellerstain House in
Berwickshire.
As was Sainte Colombe the younger...
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the effort. For those
who asked: two microphones: DPA 4041 - on one T-shaped stand, about 18
inches apart, and about six feet away. The mic preamp/converter is the
Grace Lunatec V3. The best bit of equipment, though, seems to be the
sound engineer's ears. All hail the unsung heroes.
Rob
microphones, and getting the balance between viol and guitar also took
some time, but we still managed to get in the can (as we recording
types say!) about one third of the programme. The acoustic was so good,
I can't wait for tomorrow...
Thanks again.
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2009/2/9 Mjos Larson [1]rockype...@earthlink.net
I have uploaded a collection of about 20 Kremberg pieces to my Ning
group page:
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This edition is mostly guitar settings of songs, but a few pieces
have voice and BC
no assumption that any of you would want my videos on your
iGoogle page, but you never know. My wife is not the only crazy person
in the world...but this is an experiment. So far it worked easily for
me and her. I would be interested to know if there are any problems.
Rob MacKillop
I've moved my vihuela pages - and reformatted some of them - to a
dedicated site: [1]http://www.vihuela.eu Please let me know if there
are any problems or ommissions.
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Beautiful website and wonderful performances. The two-vihuela lineup
will allow you to make new arrangements. Very exciting. Good luck with
the new ensemble.
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Please forgive me!
[1]http://www.youtube.com/user/baroqueuke
My first instrument - when I was eight years old...my life must be
drawing full circle...and coming to an end!!! Hopefully not for a
while...
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Oops. I didn't intend to open a run on favourite ukulele videos! Sorry!
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2009/1/17 Waling Tiersma [1]waling.tier...@inter.nl.net
Way out of our 'genre' but if you like the uke you shouldn't miss
this one:
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(I assume
Removed already?
Rob
2009/1/10 Stuart Walsh [1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com
I've put a couple of little pieces in A minor by Graf Logy ...or
Losy ..or whatever his name is:
[2]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AlFRlm97MTIfeature=channel_page
Stuart
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for the
price range, so I don't think it would be so bad. What interests me is
that they think there might be profit in such a specialist area. Is
early 19thC guitar becoming trendy? Time to move on!
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2008/12/12 Joshua Horn [3]hornjoshu...@gmail.com
If I do use a capo on 3rd, should my G be tuned to F#? before I
put it
on, or not? - I'm pretty much completly new to Lutes and Vihuela's
and
pretty much all early music.
I started out
.
But there were vihuelas in E, but I think pitch is less important than
a clear sound.
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So it is! Where did you find the tune?
Rob
2008/12/7 Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rob,
did you notice that the final piece in the GGregory Ms is very
closely related to
[2]http://www.torban.org/sounds/poljubyla.mp3
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Nice performance, Stuart. I'll get around to recording the GG version
soonish...
Rob
2008/12/7 Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roman Turovsky wrote:
It is a late 18th century Ukrainian popular song-tune, much (ab)used
in vaudeville from 1800 on, with cheesy texts
All fascinating stuff, guys. Any comments on improvising preludes?
Rob
2008/12/8 Trond Bengtson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The title of the pop song is: Yes, my darling daughter.
There is a nice version on Youtube.
[2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVDl689v6iE
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Playing mostly baroque guitar and 19th-century guitar these days...
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, on other luthiers, on the
very development of the guitar itself.
Sinier de Ridder
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Anyone seen this?
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Both books are very expensive. I'll just buy new strings instead...
Rob
2008/11/28 Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are some nice pictures but don't expect much of the text ;)
And you are right, it's certainly hugely overpriced for what it
gives ...
If I
Does this link work? [1]http://tinyurl.com/62zsar
or this:
[2]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Music-of-Fernando-Sor/dp/B0018Y
DPJA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=musicqid=1227290706sr=8-1 (cut and paste
into browser)
Or serch [3]www.amazon.co.uk or com for Lost Music Fernando Sor
Rob
Thanks, Monica.
Rob
2008/11/14 Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For those of you who are interested in Murcia, Alejandro Vera has
another article about him in the November issue of Early Music.
He has uncovered a lot of biographical information about Murcia
to anything I said. He sounded
like a 14-year old. I refused to take part in the programme. My fears
were justified.
Looking forward to Part 2!
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Bravo, Monica. Excellent stuff, as usual. Makes me want to play
Bartolotti. Thanksalotti...
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What's not 'serious' about folk music?
Rob
2008/9/26 Michael Gillespie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wondering... when (with who) did study of the early guitar
become
more serious. Sanz used spanish folk melodies where as de Visse
was the
royal guitarist, thats
everything and then arrange (or derrange) it. It has nothing to do with
the music or instruments discussed here. Try the acoustic guitar
forums. Nothing wrong with ingenuity, of course, that's how things
change, so keep experimenting.
Rob
2008/9/24 Joshua Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guys
I wasn't upset, Josh. It will take more than that to upset me. Good
luck with it all. You asked for feedback, and I gave you some.
Rob
2008/9/24 Josh Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To all,
For those whom I might of offended with my demonstration tuning
video, I apologize
2008/9/24 Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What Gordon is doing is a bit puzzling and I thought it was worth
talking about. What's your problem with that?
Nothing. What do you want to discuss?
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Many players use a strap.
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Hi all,
I am curious as to wether your Vihuela or Guitar should be resting
on
your left or right knee when playing traditional music. Is this
the
proper position
I would call that a theorboed guitar...
Rob
2008/9/17 Michael Gillespie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archguitar...
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it with me
whilst he has gone off on holiday to the west coast.
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I've just noticed that immediately below the video on its right-hand
side is a link - 'watch in high quality' - it really does make a
difference.
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Rob
2008/9/11 Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, here is the video:
[3]http://tinyurl.com/5cgkdv
The instrument will be back
I've placed a pdf of the scores here:
[1]http://www.rmguitar.info/temp.htm
Rob
2008/9/11 Michael Gillespie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What kind of notation are you reading? Are the basses marked /a
//a
///a 1,2,3 so on?
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(if
that's the correct title) from Pictures at an Exhibition... This music
is difficult to play! I wish I hadn't promised a video!!
Rob
2008/9/8 Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rob,
Thanks - interesting: there's a thought that the 'basses' could have
been at the upper octave
reconstruction of this vihuela - a memorable
experience.
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2008/8/26 Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My long promised update for one of the pages dedicated to the Dias
vihuela:
[1][2]http://www.vihuelademano.com/vgcrossroads.htm
It's not a sort of 'must
into a
reasonable-quality student baroque guitar. Maybe someone else could
chime in here.
Good luck finding a teacher. If you have any more questions, just ask.
Rob MacKillop
[3]www.songoftherose.co.uk (has some baroque guitar videos)
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with it for a week.
Rob
2008/8/23 Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well - I have the Granata book and Gallot and so could send you some
of the pieces if you haven't got these. The Gallot has the strings
on the fingerboard tuned to a major major common chord rather than
luthiers reading this who would like to comment?
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Well, it is certainly a baroque guitar with a lute bowl, but a
'chitarrone francese' would have diapasons, hence 'chitarrone'. Very
interesting, though!
Again, a good price.
Rob
2008/8/24 Peedu Timo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Would this then be a Chitarra Francese?
[2]http
of the original painting on
Wolfgang's website:
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archlute and scroll down.
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I'm looking for baroque guitar pieces with a Scottish connection. I
have the two pieces in the Princess Anne Lute Book and the Schiller
manuscript. Speaking of which, can someone give me the full name for
the Schiller ms?
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2008/8/18 Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rob,
Other than these two, the only others which come to mind are in a
sense all pieces in Corebetta's 1671 book dedicated to the Stuart
monarch. In particular there's a nice sarabande: La Stuart (f. 71)
and the preceding
They might be Irish, considering the Gallot d'Irlande connection, but I
would like a look at them if you have them...
Rob
2008/8/18 Mjos Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are any of the miscellaneous pieces in the De Gallot manuscript
Scottish?
I'm thinking of Lachimagry (sp
, some with different
bourdon settings, and possibly some with different tunings.
Monica states that 'they completely alter the sound quality of the
instrument' - well, that was the whole point, I imagine.
Rob
2008/8/17 Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes. Recently Gerard Rebours
Here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bananamunga
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finger
strokes in one direction, either mi or pi would suffice.
Rob MacKillop
2008/6/16 Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think this query came up before but I can't remember whether anyone knew
the answer to it.
In Bartolotti's Secondo Libro, the Allemandes usually start with a pick
up beat
Dear FoMRHI member
You will be pleased to hear that after 6 years of silence, the Fellowship of
Makers and Researchers of Historical Instruments, and its Quarterly
publication, are being revived. We already have enough material for at least
one, maybe two issues of the Quarterly. The first should
Fuenllana composed and intabulated pieces for the 5c vihuela. How this
instrument differed from the 5c guitar with bourdons on the 4th and 5th is a
little bit of a mystery. His 6c vihuela seems to have been quite small,
judging by the stretches required of the left hand. The 5c tablature seems
to
is the tablature for all his 5c pieces - PLAYABLE
ON THE 5c BAROQUE GUITAR (at a stretch) - in Italian, French and Milan's
'Guitar-type' tablature: http://www.rmguitar.info/scores.htm
Enjoy.
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Buy a ruler... ;-)
Rob
2008/6/6 Azalais [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
That works!... (but it takes even more intense concentration than avoiding
the 6th course when playing 5-line BG pieces on a vihuela!!! ) Rob, someday
when you have some extra time on your hands, would it be too much trouble
The CDRom Martyn mentions, you can find it here, Jerry:
http://www.lacg.net/facsimiles_page.htm
A bit more expensive than Martyn remembers (more like 50 quid, Martyn) but
well worth it.
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, Dentice and Severino, were active in
both Italy and Spain, and their works could be added to the canon of vihuela
literature.
OK?
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Thanks Azalais. My first response is that there is enough fiction in the
viola/vihuela debate already...but a good read is a good read ;-)
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? Any other publications for it?
And can anyone flesh out the story of one of the d'Este family ordering a
'Spanish viola da mano' but having to settle for an Italian one instead? I
can't remember the facts.
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2008/5/31 Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Maybe this is of interest??? Are you going to Jack's later?
Jack who? What are you talking about, Ed?
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and Aguado used them when they were young men. Moretti, of course - but
not repertoire pieces. And of course the string quartets plus guitar of
Boccherini.
Has anyone here got a 6c?
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of
Boccherini.
Has anyone here got a 6c?
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Rob
2008/5/31 Eloy Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes, Monica is right, there are 2 mss of Vargas y Guzman, one from 1773,
that has some minuets and other dances, and one from 1776, with 12 sonatas,
all for 6 c. guitar and continuo
Best
perfeccion la guitarra de
cinco y seis ordenes* by Abreay and Prieto - both instruments in one book.
The seven-course Sanguino replica looks amazing. You couldn't play that with
a beer belly!
Ah, too many instruments and not enough money...tis ever thus.
Rob
2008/5/31 Jelma van Amersfoort [EMAIL
, I can rough it with the worst of them before heading off to Versailles
to play with Marie Antoinette, if you get my drift...
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Barber surgeon? What an interesting combination!
Rob
2008/5/31 Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well - Granata was a barber surgeon - so you are in excellent company!
Monica
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Maestro, they are beautiful and should be snapped up!
Rob MacKillop
2008/5/31 Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My latest vihuela projects:
http://www.vihuelademano.com/vihuelas/pages/flutedback-vihuela-inAG.htm
http://www.vihuelademano.com/vihuelas/pages/flutedback-vihuela-inE.htm
to
the Lutes and Early Guitars Channel, which is:
http://www.vimeo.com/Francesco
Visitors welcome.
Rob MacKillop
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-hole,
because that is where a sweet and agreeable tone is obtained; and not next
to the bridge, which is where it is commonly strummed and played in
barber-style''.
Rob
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Somone asked me about my strumming techniques so I've added a video on
strumming the baroque guitar here:
http://www.vimeo.com/robmackillop/videos
It's more MacKillop than Corbetta, but you might get something out of it.
Rob
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added four more.
I've enjoyed playing them, and hope you enjoy hearing them. Please don't ask
me for scores as I am not sure of the legal implications. They are my
arrangements, but Rogerio Budasz did the transcribing.
Rob MacKillop
PS I will put them on the vihuela/guitar network site soon
never noticed the video tape had run out...Geez, I need to go for a long
walk!
Still, I hope you get something from these efforts. Was it worth it?
Probably not! Go to www.vimeo.com and search for MacKillop.
Rob MacKillop
PS Excuse the cross posting...
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Thank you La Monica - you are a star...
Rob
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seen before, and comments are welcome,
leading to discussion.
So, I think these networks have their place and are most welcome. But I am
happy to still read and enquire on this list. Hopefully both can live in
harmony together. I'm sure they can.
Discuss...
Rob MacKillop
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. It will be
useful to have all our sound files, scores, illustrations on one site.
If it doesn't work, I'll take it offline in a month's time.
Rob
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