[VIHUELA] Re: Protocol of emails (again...)

2011-12-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Being a robot and lacking a friendly, smiling face, I am very grateful for the impersonal nature of e-mail. (Just kidding. ...kinda.) Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Stewart McCoy Sent: Tuesday, December 20,

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges

2011-11-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Or, in my case, Carpe carpio! Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Monica Hall Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:07 AM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges

2011-11-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Maybe a lot to ask, but it would be both valuable and interesting, and certainly is not impossible. As a fan of mandolin going back as far as there have been instruments to carry related names, one of my favorite references is: Morey, Stephen. 1993. Mandolins of the 18th century. Editrice

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges

2011-11-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
-Original Message- From: Monica Hall [mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:32 AM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges Exactly - now who will volunteer to write it. I would love to... if it weren't

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges

2011-11-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Sounds like a plan. ...If I can convince you to coauthor! Eugene -Original Message- From: Monica Hall [mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:06 AM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges - Original

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar culture and habits?

2011-05-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
That image was actually in reference to the supporters/fans/disciples of Carulli vs. the supporters/fans/disciples of Molino in Paris (i.e., the Carullists and Molinists). It didn't necessarily have to do with nail use (I don't know if either expressed preferences for nails). Molino's technique

[VIHUELA] Re: list - protocol

2011-04-18 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Alas, the tyrannical giant Microsoft and its forced default of top-replying so dominates the universe of electronic communication that I fear there is no easy way back to a rational conversational civility. This note was typed using MS Outlook (with a tear in the eye for the memory of Eudora).

[VIHUELA] Hopkinson Smith to give guitar concert and master class in Columbus, OH, April 2011

2011-03-09 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
attend as an auditor will be $15 at the door.  Feel free to reply directly (off list if you'd like) with any questions you may have.   Best, Eugene Eugene C. Braig IV Artistic Director Phone: 614-561-9204 The Columbus Guitar Society Capital University, Conservatory of Music 1 College Main Columbus

[VIHUELA] Re: The stringing of the baroque guitar - again

2011-02-10 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
[mailto:a-mah...@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:39 AM To: 'Vihuelalist'; Eugene C. Braig IV Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: The stringing of the baroque guitar - again Dear Eugene, This is my first post to the list. I was amazed to hear that you are a biologist in your day

[VIHUELA] Re: The stringing of the baroque guitar - again

2011-02-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I am a dabbler in early strings. I don't ever intend to be anything but. However, I am a fan of scholarship (a biologist on the day job) and this extends to my appreciation of music. I watch this bourdon-vs.-not debate periodically because both sides tend to have insight that I appreciate. I

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-02-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
on that. In my opinion, there's no logical reason to have a fully re-entrant 6-course guitar. You end up repeating a note on one course or the other. [Eugene C. Braig IV] Indeed, at least relatively speaking. However, the 6-course instrument was largely a quirk of Spanish-speaking places

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-02-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Russian guitar (supposedly from his period in Russia between 1804 - 14). On 03/02/2011 15:49, Monica Hall wrote: [Eugene C. Braig IV] Indeed, at least relatively speaking. However, the 6-course instrument was largely a quirk of Spanish-speaking places. The rest of Europe seems

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-02-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
guitar (supposedly from his period in Russia between 1804 - 14). On 03/02/2011 15:49, Monica Hall wrote: [Eugene C. Braig IV] Indeed, at least relatively speaking. However, the 6-course instrument was largely a quirk of Spanish-speaking places. The rest of Europe seems to have gone

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-02-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Thanks for your thoughts, Monica. Eugene -Original Message- From: Monica Hall [mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:45 PM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? Well - yes. A lot

[VIHUELA] Re: Four c. guitar

2010-07-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I don't think he is talking about the earliest 16th-c. publications of guitar music (hopefully), but referring to the semi-obscure, iconography-based history of things like gittern, citole, etc. The dates he gives fall in the couple centuries before the music Jocelyn offered us. Eugene

[VIHUELA] Re: Four c. guitar

2010-07-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Craddock's recording is now super-hard to find. I would love to have a copy, but can't seem to track one down at a reasonable price. Also look into: Lonardi, Massimo. 2006. Comiença la Musica para Guitarra. Stradivarius. Marincola, Federico. 1994. Pieces pour Luth/Pieces pour Guitare. Disques

[VIHUELA] Re: Four c. guitar

2010-07-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
...@gamutstrings.com] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:33 AM To: Eugene C. Braig IV; 'List LUTELIST'; 'Vihuelalist' Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Four c. guitar Eugene, You apparently can get one in the USA for about $21. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dpopularfield

[VIHUELA] Re: Four c. guitar

2010-07-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
distracting. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Stuart Walsh Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:20 AM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Cc: 'List LUTELIST'; 'Vihuelalist' Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Four c. guitar Eugene C

[VIHUELA] Re: Four c. guitar

2010-07-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
- From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Four c. guitar I think you have hit the nail on the head. The problem with the baroque guitar

[VIHUELA] Re: 4-course guitar videos

2010-07-21 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
The CD is nice too, a tasteful compilation of solo and song: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/nelsonbartram As a fan of La Folia, I'm particularly fond of LeRoy's Mes pas semez. Best, Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of

[VIHUELA] Re: some 19th century seven-string guitar pieces

2010-04-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Odd. Here are some lute-distant periphera: I had always known of plane tree as an English term for trees of the same taxonomic grouping as North American sycamore (i.e., of the genus *Platanus*). All trees of the genus *Acer* are technically maples, although common names don't always reflect

[VIHUELA] Re: Chord I

2009-10-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I really think that fingering is common to most modern guitarists in most genres that use the intervals of the current standard tuning, classical included, and probably has been since the time of alfabeto. A long tradition indeed. Eugene -Original Message- From:

[VIHUELA] Re: Chord I

2009-10-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
- and I guess I have much thinner fingures than all you gentleman - so thin in fact that I don't find stopping double courses easy. I keep thinking maybe I should get the spacing reduced between the strings of each course. [Eugene C. Braig IV] I think the risk of buzzing is mitigated a bit

[VIHUELA] Re: A new-to-me vihuela

2009-10-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Jordan or an emulator. There really is very little left of the original now. Best, Eugene -Original Message- From: Garry Bryan [mailto:gar...@netins.net] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:24 PM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] A new-to-me vihuela Greetings Eugene

[VIHUELA] Re: A new-to-me vihuela

2009-10-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Rob MacKillop Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 2:15 AM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Cc: vl Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: A new-to-me vihuela Very good, Eugene. I buy a mandolin, and you buy a vihuela. The world

[VIHUELA] A new-to-me vihuela

2009-10-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Greetings fellow punteadophiliacs: Nothing to tickle your scholarly mental muscles, but I'm a bit excited so thought I'd share. After years of inaudible unplayability, my quirky speculative vihuela has returned to me, artfully brought to functionality by Ohio luthier and

[VIHUELA] Re: Quills, 15the century dance and plucked duos

2009-09-04 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Regarding quills in the style of 18th-c. mandolinists, here's a link to an image of what I've been using in recent times: http://cittern.ning.com/photo/bic-synthoquill?context=user Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee cyrillienne

2009-08-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
-Original Message- From: Stuart Walsh [mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:20 AM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Cc: 'Vihuelalist' Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: Oleg is a great scholar and fine player now based in Iowa

[VIHUELA] Re: PS to ...Re: Guitarre theorbee

2009-07-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I wholeheartedly agree, Martyn. Those pictured at the top of this page are of that later ilk, as is the link Alexander provided: http://www.harpguitars.net/history/org/org-form1a.htm Personally, I like the creator of this page very much, and I certainly appreciate his knowledge and enthusiasm.

[VIHUELA] Re: CD recording today

2009-02-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Awesome! I already want that CD on my shelves. Break that proverbial leg. Eugene -Original Message- From: Rob MacKillop [mailto:luteplay...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:58 AM To: Vihuela Subject: [VIHUELA] CD recording today I'm just about to leave

[VIHUELA] Re: CD recording today

2009-02-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
...And, especially after this description, I can't wait for release! Eugene ___ From: Rob MacKillop [mailto:luteplay...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:27 PM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Cc

[VIHUELA] Re: b-guitar hero

2008-12-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
..And where can this spectacle be seen? I have been known to play Legnani on original 19th-c. guitars, but am not so good at walking on stage. I thus favor café, soirée, or living room performance. Best, Eugene -Original Message- From: Jelma van Amersfoort [mailto:jel...@gmail.com]

[VIHUELA] Re: b-guitar hero

2008-12-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Funktastic! Eugene -Original Message- From: David van Ooijen [mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 3:01 AM To: Vihuela List Subject: [VIHUELA] b-guitar hero Slightly OT. Yesterday I was playing baroque guitar in he opening choir of the fifth cantata

[VIHUELA] Re: Hi All

2008-12-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
That would seem a perfectly logical argument to capo at II, which I don't believe I've ever seen in approaching vihuela music on modern guitar. Best, Eugene -Original Message- From: Daniel F Heiman [mailto:heiman.dan...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:41 PM To:

[VIHUELA] Re: Hi All

2008-12-11 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:35 AM 12/11/2008, Joshua Horn wrote: I was under the assumption that putting a capo on the third fret would place a standard tuned Guitar into Lute or Vihulea G tuning. Yes, solo work. =) My first bit of advice would be to get rid of the capo unless you need to adjust pitch for

[VIHUELA] Re: Hi All

2008-12-11 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
There's nothing at all wrong with a capo. I own several and actually use them (albeit rarely). When I do, however, I use the capo as a transposition tool. I personally don't see much use for transposition in playing unaccompanied solos. I also don't entirely buy into efforts to emulate a less

[VIHUELA] Re: Bartolotti

2008-10-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:37 PM 10/4/2008, Rob MacKillop wrote: Bravo, Monica. Excellent stuff, as usual. Makes me want to play Bartolotti. Thanksalotti... Rob MacKillop Me too! Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[VIHUELA] Re: Guerau on modern guitar

2008-09-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Indeed. It makes me wonder why Sanz is so popular amongst modern guitarists. Best, Eugene At 07:57 AM 9/29/2008, Monica Hall wrote: Sorry Gary Wires have got crossed here I think! What I said (I hope!) was that Guerau's music doesn't work very well without low octave strings or bordones on

[VIHUELA] Re: Guerau on

2008-09-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:12 AM 9/29/2008, Fred wrote: It makes me wonder why Sanz is so popular amongst modern guitarists. Could it be that the modern guitarists who are creating the current popularity (which is a good thing, mind you) are simply unaware of the sounds created whilst playing the music on an

[VIHUELA] Re: Nagging Erratum

2008-09-25 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:09 PM 9/25/2008, Fred wrote: Dear List, To those whose time I've wasted whilst contemplating my previous message, I am truly sorry. I have thoroughly scolded myself for putting fingers to keyboard before putting mind into action. I am unquestionably guilty of thinking without an

[VIHUELA] Re: To all

2008-09-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:57 AM 9/24/2008, Josh Horn wrote: To all, For those whom I might of offended with my demonstration tuning video, I apologize. That was not my intention. I have been and always will be an improvisor and an inventor always trying new things. Sorry for the confusion or anything that might

[VIHUELA] Re: More of the delectable Gordon Ferries

2008-09-23 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:42 PM 9/23/2008, Eleanor Smith wrote: Thought this had better go to the list as a whole... These pieces are all available on the Fires of Love CD that's advertised at the beginning of the videos ... it's a mix of pieces from the time of Adrien le Roy. I don't think Gordon currently has any

[VIHUELA] Re: Lineage of early Guitars

2008-09-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
These are all excellent reasons why the concept of lineage doesn't work beyond very superficial analogy regarding instrumental organology. Systems of nomenclature, standard tunings, functional construction features, decorative conventions, etc. all interact in musical instruments and can be

[VIHUELA] Re: Lineage of early Guitars

2008-09-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:35 AM 9/22/2008, Michael Gillespie wrote: Friends, I read somwthere that the tuning pattern is more important than the shape (of the instrument), like the theorboed guitar - lute shaped, guitar tuned. Just a thought. I would say it depends. That would make the modern

[VIHUELA] Re: Lineage of early Guitars

2008-09-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:49 PM 9/22/2008, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: At 11:05 AM 9/22/2008, Fred wrote: This is precisely what I'm suggesting. The modern guitar is linked to the renaissance vihuela _only_ by way of its relation to the renaissance lute, which is the ancestor of the theorbo/chitar...rone (stress

[VIHUELA] Re: Lineage of early Guitars

2008-09-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:40 PM 9/22/2008, Fred wrote: Personally, I think a body of dedicated repertoire naming an instrument type is one of the most useful tools for tracking instrument development through time. If one were to perform five-course repertoire from the original tablature sources, particularly

[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-10 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I'd love to see it too. Eugene At 09:14 AM 9/10/2008, Monica Hall wrote: Well - if you find it - do let us know! Monica - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 10,

[VIHUELA] Re: Double headed 12 c/loaded/ Demi-filé

2008-06-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:41 PM 6/5/2008, Alexander Batov wrote: howard posner wrote: Does dyeing? The question, if I am again unmistaken, was whether a process used for dyeing might incidentally increase the density/ weight of a string. As far as I can see, adding anything to the string's innards is going to

[VIHUELA] Re: Sanz and the High G

2008-04-25 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 07:33 AM 4/25/2008, Monica Hall wrote: The reason why I get into scraps with people is because they think that they can prove categorically that the way they want to play the music themselves must be the way which the composer himself intended it to be played - and that everyone who plays it

[VIHUELA] Re: Going cheap?

2008-04-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:07 AM 4/24/2008, Alexander Batov wrote: Well, even down to listing yew as rib material of those awful lutes they don't seem to have a clue. Not violin dealer's business perhaps ... I wonder who on earth is going to buy all that Franciolini's stuff? Not me! To get on or off this list

[VIHUELA] Re: new website

2008-04-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Tremendous, and thank you. Eugene At 08:24 AM 4/24/2008, Rob MacKillop wrote: I've decided to put all my mp3 sound files on a dedicated website called Song Of The Rose (www.songoftherose.co.uk). I have no interest anymore in making CDs, so all my future solo files will be placed here. It

[VIHUELA] Re: {EARLY_GUIT} 4c music.. is there any?

2008-04-14 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Marvelous. Thanks for this. Eugene At 07:14 AM 4/13/2008, Peter Forrester wrote: Please excuse me if I have missed something, having only been thinking about citterns recently, but.. Rasguedo or, more properly? strummed music does seem to exist for the 4c guitar from England. See John M.

[VIHUELA] Re: Chi passa Boogie

2008-04-11 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:25 AM 4/11/2008, Arto Wikla wrote: Is this acceptable or horrible insult to the holy instruments? ;-) Whatever. It looks like you had fun, and I'm all for that. The mandora here means the tiny soprano lute, perhaps it should be called mandolino? Depends, but in this case, it definitely

[VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?!

2008-04-10 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:20 AM 4/9/2008, Monica Hall wrote: Well - I'd agree with most of what you say. But actually no-one has mentioned vihuela music which can be played on the classical guitar just as it is if you tune the 3rd string down to F#. But perhaps someone did before I joined this discussion.

[VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?!

2008-04-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:45 PM 4/8/2008, Monica Hall wrote: Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?! Check out this little page from Appalachian State University (Dr. Douglas James' program): http://www.library.appstate.edu/music/lute/gtrlst.html Which is a bit inaccurate. The music in Barberiis is not

[VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?!

2008-04-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:17 PM 4/8/2008, Monica Hall wrote: The moral of this tale - never rely on what anyone else says - always check the original - if you can. Always seems prudent. This kind of stuff makes me glad I'm a biologist on the day job. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at

[VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?!

2008-04-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:45 PM 4/8/2008, Stuart Walsh wrote: Lots of music was published for for the five-course guitar. There is a fair amount online too. Wouldn't a five-course be more promising than a four-course guitar? Bear in mind that the little four-course guitar is very unlike a modern classical guitar.

[VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?!

2008-04-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:09 PM 4/8/2008, Monica Hall wrote: Didn't get Stuart's message. But most 5-course music isn't suitable for classical guitar because of the octave stringing and re-entrant tuning - at least as notated. Of course, I wouldn't want to imply otherwise, although much 5-course music is workable

[VIHUELA] Re: OT: any ideas on this mandolin?

2008-04-07 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:01 PM 4/6/2008, Stuart Walsh wrote: Eugene, did you see the photos of this mandolin? http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/mandopics/ I have now. thanks for the reference. Do you think this mando could be a de Meglio (or imitator)? This particular mandolin didn't really strike me as a good

[VIHUELA] Re: chitarra da gamba

2008-02-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:00 PM 2/22/2008, bill kilpatrick wrote: interesting curio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dvnteWmVLowatch_response Looks like a weird amateur effort to re-concoct the arepggione of the early 1800s from something that was built with the intent to be something else. My sense of

[VIHUELA] Re: chitarra da gamba

2008-02-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
baroque. frankenstein was looking for the secret of life and his monster did, indeed, experience soul. perhaps these deviants will find themselves sailing into bleak and desolate arctic wastes and end their wretched existence on a lost and lonely ice flow ... Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED

[VIHUELA] Re: fuenllana videos from the 30's

2008-02-18 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:56 PM 2/17/2008, bill kilpatrick wrote: i would imagine you already know about these but if not: http://www.youtube.com/user/PujolDisciple Thanks, Bill. I, for one, did not know of these and really enjoyed them. Of course, Pujol was instrumental in bringing the great vihuela books to

[VIHUELA] Re: Tombeau de du But

2008-02-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:44 PM 2/12/2008, Monica Hall wrote: Very enjoyable, Rob. Do you think (Baroque) guitar tombeaux (if that's the plural) have the same mesmeric effect as the lute ones? There is a beautiful one in Campion dedicated to M. de Maltot who apparently passed on to Campion the Rule of octaves.

[VIHUELA] Re: Calvi

2007-12-14 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:47 PM 12/14/2007, Stuart Walsh wrote: I' not sure what a 'mandola' is. Tyler refers to this genre as mandolino/ mandore/mandola. Does 'mandola', as you understand it, mean something other? Mandora/mandore was similar but usually referred to something a bit different with a different

[VIHUELA] Re: Calvi

2007-12-14 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
..And without attachments as they appear to be stalling the post to the list: At 05:36 PM 12/14/2007, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: At 04:47 PM 12/14/2007, Stuart Walsh wrote: I' not sure what a 'mandola' is. Tyler refers to this genre as mandolino/ mandore/mandola. Does 'mandola', as you

[VIHUELA] Re: dedillo

2007-10-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:25 AM 10/30/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: not sure what the difference is between tremolo and dedillo... Depending, both techniques can coincide. Dedillo is striking the string with both the up and downstroke, or both the contraction and extension, of a finger. Tremolo is the rapid

[VIHUELA] Re: dedillo

2007-10-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 07:00 PM 10/30/2007, Stuart Walsh wrote: Is the vihuela the only instrument that uses this technique? I don't think there is anything like it in 4 or 5 course guitar, or any kind of lute, technique. There couldn't be anything in the construction of the instrument that makes this a more

[VIHUELA] Re: BG stringing

2007-10-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Personally, I tend to prefer to not alter the configuration of my instruments. I like them to function as there builders made them. I prefer to buy the instruments that already function as I'd like. That said, I take absolutely no issue at all with anybody else who would like to tinker ad

[VIHUELA] Re: Guerau recording

2007-10-17 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:41 AM 10/17/2007, Monica Hall wrote: Even when played as guitar solos they can sound a bit odd. From my extensive collection...Rafael Bonavita on the Enchiriadis label doesn't need the kitchen sink - he can make all the noise off by himself. William Waters has made a solo recording -

[VIHUELA] Re: Guerau recording

2007-10-16 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:33 PM 10/13/2007, Monica Hall wrote: (I don't know if any of our modern virtuosi have revived these passacalles with bongo drums, samples, nyckelharpa etc) Well they have certainly revived Santiago de Murcia's music with everything including the kitchen sink...but Guerau has escaped their

[VIHUELA] Re: for Bill K.

2007-07-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I get frightfully frustrated by nebulous, non-specific octaves in listing tuning schemes, especially tuning schemes involving reentrant tunings and/or courses in octaves. Given string diameters and scale length, I suspect the below is parallel to typical 5-course guitar tuning, low to high:

[VIHUELA] Re: for Bill K.

2007-07-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:50 PM 7/12/2007, Monica Hall wrote: I get frightfully frustrated by nebulous, non-specific octaves in listing tuning schemes, especially tuning schemes involving reentrant tunings and/or courses in octaves. Given string diameters and scale length, I suspect the below is parallel to

[VIHUELA] Re: richard III and the charango (museum)

2007-07-09 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:16 AM 7/9/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: here it is: http://www.charangobolivia.org/museodeinstrumentos/index.htm in looking through the photos i see there's a violin in the collection, the sound chamber of which is made from a large, tubular section of bamboo - 4 tuning pegs; more or less

[VIHUELA] Re: richard III and the charango

2007-07-09 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:15 PM 7/9/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: --- Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have real difficulty understanding the why of your tireless campaign, Bill. sallying forth, probing the defensives for any signs of weakness ... .. folk violin was a welcome bit mush

[VIHUELA] Re: wild rose

2007-06-27 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:02 PM 6/27/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: please check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgaSQUQaQBk .. excellent music apart (all played by the same guy) about halfway through the video there's a detail of a rose which features - if i'm not mistaken - a figure holding a

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:59 AM 6/19/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: open mic' here at the vihuela bargrill appears to have become dusty of late ... so i'd thought i'd dredge up a fave'-rave', golden oldie and bring it up to date: a review of the book the black swan: impact of the highly improbable in a recent edition

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:21 PM 6/19/2007, Roman Turovsky wrote: From: Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] In most cases outside mathematics, I don't believe in proof. Much of western science is built on the notion of disproof leaving evidence for whatever is left standing; I like that system. Accepting

[VIHUELA] Re: vihuela's black swan

2007-06-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:37 PM 6/19/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: what intrigured me about this review - the book, i confess, will not be bought - was the idea that certain passions attract certain types of intellect and that what's acceptable in general terms by some may be rejected by others because of specifics.

[VIHUELA] Re: Eloy's photos

2007-06-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:39 PM 6/1/2007, Alexander Batov wrote: I wonder how did you do that? I tried to search in the way Eloy has suggested earlier: I followed Bill's advice and uploaded the mexican instruments pictures to http://www.flickr.com Where you can see them under my name, Eloy Cruz .. but no

[VIHUELA] Re: papa's got a brand new oud

2007-04-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:27 PM 4/12/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: i'm aware of what a 5c. instrument with re-entrant tuning can do but don't know enough about the structure of music to judge properly what it can't do. recently i've learned of composers who have written for the charango but i have no idea what

[VIHUELA] Re: gaspar sanz video (II)

2007-03-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:36 PM 3/29/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote: not wishing to try your collective patience, i'd very much appreciate comment on the manner in which this piece is performed: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=danensago seems to be one musician, multi-tracking - is his performance in accord with

[VIHUELA] Re: Charango as vihuela

2007-01-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
It seems to me that Howard did recognize the instruments and family relationships and even gave it more credence than I would in drawing analogy to primates (which is a real cladistically justifiable family and not a loose conglomeration of plastic, human-made, cross-fertilized

[VIHUELA] Re: paper on how vihuela became charango

2007-01-16 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I think this rather nice essay is as appropriate to this list as any other under the Dartmouth early-pluck umbrella. Its paragraphs on vihuela and 5-course guitar ancestry seem pretty a pretty fair summary. Eugene Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:14:37 + (GMT) From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL

[VIHUELA] Re: pod

2006-12-18 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:19 AM 12/18/2006, Alexander Batov wrote: There is also this very sensible performance of Robert de Visee's allemande in A. I'd wish he played the whole suite! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz87wCk4tfwmode=relatedsearch I always find Andia's intonation a little odd. Several years old

[VIHUELA] Re: Spanish one-man bands

2006-12-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I have done a little at the Met and have some notes and photos on the mandolin relatives and (to a much lesser extent) the guitars in their collection. When I'm home from the office, I'll check this catalogue number against my notes, but I suspect this was not an instrument I inspected or

[VIHUELA] Re: Spanish one-man bands

2006-12-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:50 PM 12/13/2006, Eloy Cruz wrote: Dear Stuart and List Doc Rossi is right, the catalog entry he copies is for an instrument with Museum No.: 224-1882, but the note next to the instrument calls it a cittern and has the Spanish virtuosi story. I saw the instrument in december 2002. I think I

[VIHUELA] Re: Ian Woodfield's Early History of the Viol (and Vihuela)

2006-10-11 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Greetings Roger (et al.), I don't think we disagree at all other than on a relatively trivial semantic level. At 11:30 PM 10/10/2006, Roger E. Blumberg wrote: I guess I do prefer to unify, when, as you say, there's something grossly obvious about it (or should be), a unity who's name and

[VIHUELA] Re: Ian Woodfield's Early History of the Viol (and Vihuela)

2006-10-10 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I still get a little squeamish regarding concepts of ancestry and evolution (even of families other than the grossly obvious) in musical organology. The process of instrument development is much more plastic and can borrow from any inspiration at whim. That said, of course it's all

[VIHUELA] Re: hmm

2006-06-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 07:36 PM 6/5/2006, Rob MacKillop wrote: I offer this without comment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUEe2TpCBlksearch=vihuela Here's my comment: H...he should stick to proper guitars a la Smallman. To get on or off this list see list information at

[VIHUELA] Re: hmm

2006-06-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 07:52 PM 6/5/2006, Roman Turovsky wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKh6o8ZkF6osearch=lute RT Hmmm...he should stick to high-speed progressive rock wankery in accompanying yodelers. To get on or off this list see list information at

[VIHUELA] Re: Right hand

2006-04-17 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:17 PM 4/15/2006, Bruno Correia wrote: I keep shortish nails myself, tapered down on the attack side. I prepare the stroke and use a combination of flesh and nail. When playing early thingies with courses of paired strings, I approach at an angle to incorporate less nail and more

[VIHUELA] Re: Meantone temperament

2006-03-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:19 AM 3/29/2006, LGS-Europe wrote: Again, you seem to be mixing theory (it is impossible to tune a guitar or lute in an unequal temperament) with practice (we have to play together with Werckmeister harpsichords)... In near as well as remote keys in unequal temperaments, if there are notes I

[VIHUELA] Re: Meantone temperament

2006-03-27 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:20 PM 3/27/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. The thing is that not all equal temperaments are equal, Of course indeed. ...so citing from historic sources proofes nothing as long as the mathematical stuff is included. I'm not certain what you mean here. Best, Eugene To get

[VIHUELA] Re: Mean tone temperament

2006-03-23 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:00 PM 3/23/2006, Monica Hall wrote: I don't know whether there is still anyone on this list - but if there is perhaps they can tell me what they know about Mean Tone Temperament on plucked stringed instruments, especially the baroque guitar... Of all places, this is receiving some

[VIHUELA] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango?

2005-12-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 07:44 AM 12/6/2005, Roger E. Blumberg wrote: The implications of this seem clear to me. Calling charango a vihuela, and recognizing it as being in the vihuela/guitarra family, a descendant and offspring of, as it clearly is, seems fair game. There is more than enough precedence, and

[VIHUELA] Re: Nuke thet uke!

2005-11-09 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:02 AM 11/9/2005, Rob MacKillop wrote: All this talk of charangos and single-strung vihuelas is making me ill. It has also reminded me of my very first instrument: a ukelele, which my grandfather sent me from America. It came with a Mel Bay tutor which contained what must be the most bizarre

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:35 AM 11/2/2005, bill kilpatrick wrote: it would seem that the line separating vihuela from guitar becomes more indistinct with each quoted, historical source. tunings are adaptable to both; the repertoire is easily shared; number of courses during its development are variable; decorative

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:33 AM 11/2/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: and don't necessarily have anything at all to do with willful efforts to perpetuate an ugly, elitist Eurocentric bias. Are you trying to say that american farmed catfish is philosophically equal to mediterranean red mullet?? It's all a matter of

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:23 PM 11/2/2005, bill kilpatrick wrote: as with the europeans in south america who referred to their instruments as vihuelas. on what basis do musicologists today justify their reclassification of the instrument and say they - the south americans - were wrong? I'm not sure what you mean

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:40 PM 11/2/2005, bill kilpatrick wrote: outside of honolulu, is there a recognized repertoire for the renaissance guitar? Mudarra, Morlaye, Le Roy, etc. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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