Hello. I just bought an LCII for no other reason than because
it was so-o-o cute! I think that it has a 60 MG hard drive and
4 MG of RAM, according to the ìget infoî and ìabout this macî
folders. My 14-year old thought he would be able to play
Escape Velocity on it. However, the game requires
--- Terry Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AFAIK, the Macintosh TV chassis is basically the
same as an LC5xx machine.
The video and TV input is located on the
motherboard, but there is the Apple
Video system for the LC5xx series.
As a matter of fact, you could even install the
At 18:05 -0700 on 05/09/01, Andrew Michael MacTao wrote:
Just a curious question... One that has always puzzled me. Does
anyone know the specifics, why uploading a file to a server takes so
much longer than downloading the same file?
Are you on a 56K modem by any chance? They're limited
what is a Quadra 605? where do you buy it for $10?
i have a LC II and a IIFx.. can you tell me what to do to max out the Macs
in terms of performance? PNs and location to buy?
thanks,
billy j
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From: Andrew W. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL
Steve, i just got a LC II and a IIfx as noted on my last reply. can you
detail what i can do to max out performance (in terms of being practical
also)?
later, billy j
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From: Steve Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September
--- Andrew W. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Terry Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AFAIK, the Macintosh TV chassis is basically the
same as an LC5xx machine.
The video and TV input is located on the
motherboard, but there is the Apple
Video system for the LC5xx series.
As
i run 7.2 OS.
billy j
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From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:43 AM
Subject: Re: LCII acquisition
--- billy j [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve, i just got a LC II and a IIfx as noted on my
Don't let the some folks scare you away from your cute lil' machine. I have
done the Net on my LC and thats a slower machine.
It really isn't that much slower than a LC II...
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Steve, thanks for help.
the IIfx has 16 Meg in it now. the LC II has 11 Meg.
how can you tell if the HDs are scsi or not? what does the Mac FPU look
like? VRAM? where is it on MOBO?
i understand scsi and other computer stuff, so talk as 'heavy' as you wish.
i just don't know the Macs!
Everyone should stop picking on the Mac TV... It may not be fast, but it's
so cool! That's what I think, anyway... Sure wish I had one...
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Welcome Deven! You sure sound like someone who knows his stuff, happy to
have you around. I guess you'll learn about other listmembers soon enough.
I myself don't know sh*t about programming, and hardware manupilation is
not my strongest point either, but I do my bit about operating system and
Here's how to increase the speed in your LC II without breaking the bank.
First you to obtain a motherboard from a Quadra 605. It will give you a 68040
processor and enable you to upgrade the ram to 32K. You can add two 512K
video ram to replace the ones that come standard. You can add more
Does anyone know where to get simple games (for my children) for my old
Mac Classic II a.k.a. Performa 200? I only can find games for the iMac
on the web. Thx for the info.
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At 02:44 AM 9/6/2001, you wrote:
Hello. I just bought an LCII for no other reason than because
it was so-o-o cute! I think that it has a 60 MG hard drive and
4 MG of RAM, according to the ìget infoî and ìabout this macî
folders. My 14-year old thought he would be able to play
Escape Velocity
Very cool, I wish I had all those Mac models. However, I have a serious lack of
monitors-- one Mac RGB 12, with a moderate case of magnetic color stain, and big-@$$
PC monitor that works with all my Macs through my OmniMac VGA converter. I like to
think I'm pretty knowledgeable about Macs and
l s writes:
My school was just given three Performa 575s. They
are running system 7.1 and I would like to update the
system. What is the highest I can go? I have 8.5
system disks available, can I do that?
This would be better tackle on Quadlist, since the 575 has an '040
processor, but I'd
Very cool! I don't have any LC IIs to try this on, though. Sounds like a good move,
seeing as the LC II was a bit of a crippled machine. (You meant 32MB, right? Not
32k..) If you ask me, though, changing a mobo is changing the whole computer. I like
using upgrade cards, overclocking, and
The classic II is far from ancient .. it has a 16 Mhz 68030. My classification for
Ancient is 68000 (or older). The 68030 is a reasonably fast processor for certain
games, and you can run some decent things on it. Don't try and run programs like Avara
designed for the 68040 or PPC chips, but
I say, keep the LCII. It has a lot of charm. If it can hold 10 megs of RAM, and that's
enough for you, go for it. You can get an accelerator board to insert in the PDS slot
and boost it to a 68030 or maybe even 68040. My accelerator did wonders for my IIci
and IIsi. Simply adding an FPU can
Ah, wait, my mistake, the LC II HAS a 68030! So you can definitely go to a 68040
easily. The 030 is a nice chip though, you should be happy with the machine if you
boost the RAM to 10megs and maybe add an accelerator.
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7.5.3 or 7.5.5 is your best bet. It provides new features and functionality and
support for more new software. 8.1 provides more, but it may be laggy on this machine.
Good luck,
Deven Gallo
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--- billy j [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yea, i know what scsi looks like 50 or 68 pin
ribbons. what i can't
remember is what did the older IDE look like? they
didn't have ATA back
then, did they?
hell, i should know i'm 50 year old EE!
IDE/ATAPI has always used a 40 pin dual row 0.1
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very cool! I don't have any LC IIs to try this on,
though. Sounds like a good move, seeing as the LC II
was a bit of a crippled machine. (You meant 32MB,
right? Not 32k..) If you ask me, though, changing a
mobo is changing the whole computer. I like using
Jag's House is proud to be the host site for this
software. Convert MP3 files to AIFF for playing on 68k
Macs, ported from Linux,
sports a command line interface. Runs on 020 Macs or
up.
ftp://ftp.jagshouse.com/pub/mpg123mac68k.sit.hqx
jag
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Most USB Devices would be too fast for the 68k macintosh .. a PowerMac maybe, though.
There could be a NuBUS USB card out there SOMEwhere.
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On to another pie in the sky project. USB for NuBus
Macs, at least the NuBus PowerMacs. There probably
are some stand alone USB
Scsi hard drive usually have a large 50 pin plug on the end.. if you know
what an ide hard drive connector looks like, then you will know whether it
is scsi or not.. the vram slot on the lcII is the big blue one.
the LCII has a place for an FPU (68882) with solder pads.. you can solder
a
I also have a IIfx -- night day, speedwise. Save the FPU work for
*that*7.0.1 on a IIfx compares favorably, I'd bet, with 9.1 on a G3...it
seems the faster thay get, the bigger the software bloats up to slow 'em
down...besides doing flashy new things like mp3s, which require the CPU
power,
Is there a site that has the pinouts for _every_
type of internal and external port ever used on a Mac
from the 128K through the latest model? (Including the
mini DIN 7 ports on the x100 PowerMac AV PDS card.)
If there isn't such a site, it's about time one was
created.
I know the AV card
At 23:47 -0700 on 05/09/01, Andrew W. Hill wrote:
At 18:05 -0700 on 05/09/01, Andrew Michael MacTao wrote:
Just a curious question... One that has always puzzled me. Does
anyone know the specifics, why uploading a file to a server takes so
much longer than downloading the same file?
Are
At 04:19 -0400 on 06/09/01, billy j wrote:
how can you tell if the HDs are scsi or not? what does the Mac FPU look
All Mac HDs are SCSI for Macs that are on-topic for this list.
like? VRAM? where is it on MOBO?
The FPU is a chip that looks a lot like the CPU. It says 68882 on it.
VRAM
At 08:20 -0400 on 06/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just say overclock)ing my IIsi to maybe 30mhz and using it as a game
server/file server.
Won't work past about 29MHz because the floppy drive controller craps out.
If you have anything in the PDS slot, you're limited to about 25MHz or so.
p
At 10:30 -0400 on 06/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with virtually NO performance decrease + great graphics.) Wolfenzoom is an
extension,
Where does one obtain Wolfenzoom?
Google turned that into a rhetorical question...
At 10:35 -0400 on 06/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I say, keep the LCII. It has a lot of charm. If it can hold 10 megs of
RAM, and that's enough for you, go for it. You can get an accelerator
board to insert in the PDS slot and boost it
to a 68030 or maybe even 68040. My accelerator did
At 10:39 -0700 on 06/09/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
There was a CPU upgrade for the LCII that also allowed
more than 10megs RAM, but for what it costs and
what you get, you're far better off dropping in an
LCIII+ (33Mhz) board along with its fan and bracket.
LC II and later share the fan and
At 12:44 -0700 on 06/09/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
Is there a site that has the pinouts for _every_
type of internal and external port ever used on a Mac
Yes. Well, almost...the FAQ has a link.
from the 128K through the latest model? (Including the
mini DIN 7 ports on the x100 PowerMac AV PDS
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, the pickle wrote:
I've had a 68K MP3-to-AIFF converter in the Archive for ages and it uses a
GUI...then there's SoundApp...
How does AIFF compare in file size and sound quality to MP3? I gave up on
the MP3 player ideas because I figured my LC II couldn't handle it but
Howdy Y'all,
Wow, didn't know there would be such a disparity in opinion as to the
viability of the Mac TV as a computer. Thank you to those who
emailed me with suggestions and links. I maxed out the ram and got
the TV mode working.
I thought I would share something that I find interesting,
How does AIFF compare in file size and sound quality to MP3? I gave up on
the MP3 player ideas because I figured my LC II couldn't handle it but if
it can play AIFF's it may deserve some more consideration.
-Brian
AIFF's are uncompressed and untempered (no removal of sounds out of
reach for
I forgot to mention that this app also plays MP3's on
an 020 or up. It was written by Mark White and tested
on a SE/30. I have not used it yet. Have fun!
ftp://ftp.jagshouse.com/pub/mpg123mac68k.sit.hqx
JAG
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--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:44 -0700 on 06/09/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
Is there a site that has the pinouts for _every_
type of internal and external port ever used on a
Mac
Yes. Well, almost...the FAQ has a link.
from the 128K through the latest model? (Including
At 15:41 -0700 on 06/09/01, JAG wrote:
I forgot to mention that this app also plays MP3's on
an 020 or up. It was written by Mark White and tested
on a SE/30. I have not used it yet. Have fun!
As in plays without converting to AIFF *first*? As in decodes on the fly?
p
I guess there's only one way to find out. :-)
Terry
Well, yeah, but most people I've talked to, including a lot of Mac
programming experts with experience in the field, have said the 68040's
FPU
- let alone an FPU-less '020-based Mac - is far too weak to decode MP3s on
the fly, in real
At 20:04 -0400 on 06/09/01, Terry Mathews wrote:
I guess there's only one way to find out. :-)
...and I'm camping for the weekend - or will be tomorrow - so I'm away from
my stash or I'd test it right now...
Who's volunteering? :)
p
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While we're on the topic of upgrades via mobo swap, I read it's possible to
swap ouit the IIci motherboard for a PowerMac board of some sort. Which
powermac boards will fit in this case? Will they work w/ my SCSI hdd,
external SCSI devices, etc.?
Thx,
-- Deven IIci Lover Gallo
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At 20:12 + on 06/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there's a way to push up the 16MHz
say 20 to 25MHz even 32MHz? I have seen the overclocking item but
not much detail on which oscillator is used for this.
I don't think the IIvx can be chipped, at least not easily. There might -
and I
At 20:15 -0400 on 06/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While we're on the topic of upgrades via mobo swap, I read it's possible to
swap ouit the IIci motherboard for a PowerMac board of some sort. Which
powermac boards will fit in this case? Will they work w/ my SCSI hdd,
external SCSI devices,
Are my messages getting through to the list? I'm not getting any of my posts
for some reason. or anyone else's ..
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The only one I can think of that would even be close would be the 7100, but
it's really meant for a IIvx case...
The 7100 is SCSI, so your devices will work as well. Some NuBus cards aren't
compatible, but your HDs will be.
Terry
While we're on the topic of upgrades via mobo swap, I read it's
There is just no way an 020 (meaning a Mac II or LC)
is going to play MP3 in realtime. Even if it is
super optimized a IIci with a 50Mhz DayStar 030
is going to struggle.
--- Terry Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it's a full port of mpg123, it should play any
MP2 or MP3 audio.
Terry
2. If anyone isn't surprised, here's the whopper: This will
work: nubus video card without VRAM sticks installed!
As in no VRAM on the mobo or no VRAM on the card? :)
Slaps on my heads. Sorry... IIvx has pair of VRAM slots, without
these pair of sticks installed and using nubus video
At 8:59 PM -0400 9/6/01, Vintage Macs wrote:
As in plays without converting to AIFF *first*? As in decodes on the fly?
That's what the readme says. Download it and try it and lemme know.
Here is the redme and d/l url:
http://www.jagshouse.com/68kmp3.html
thanks!
jag
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ok, installed/config. MacTCP (v2.06) used Earthlink domain
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installed/config. MacPPP (v2.0.1) used my Earthlink Init,
then tried ATF1. after
each config. change i restarted, turned the modem off then
back on. every try yields the
I dunno, there's a chance this will work good. Mpg123 has a patch that makes
it use all integer math. It was developed for the Acorn RISC chips, but
works on all platforms. This is also an open-source program that has been
under constant development for years. I'm not kidding, years. I always
In a roundabout sort of way, it is. They are both 3 slot NuBus Macs. The
ports are basically in the same positions too. The cases aren't really
identical, since the IIcx/ci/Q700 doesn't accomidate an internal CDROM, but
aside from that...
I hope you mean the Q700, because the 7100 it is *not*
Nope. It's not possible. The LC575 shipped with 7.5.something or other and
can't use anything less. The best thing you can do is install 7.5.5 from
Apple's site, or buy a copy of 7.6.1. I think Jag's House on the swap list
has several copies for fairly cheap.
Terry
Any tricks to install the
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From: Matt Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:12 PM
Subject: Mac TV Madness (semi-OT)
Howdy Y'all,
Wow, didn't know there would be such a disparity in opinion as to the
viability of the Mac TV as a
A university unloaded a bunch of old Apple monitors, floppy drives, modems
at a computer training school for them to work on, and I inherited
everything as the students were only interested in working on PC's. Found
an Apple //e and //c with no power cord, but internally look fine and a 9
Apple
Check the AppleTalk control panel to make sure
that it is set to the port your Modem is plugged
into. Check the Chooser to make sure AppleTalk
is Active. If you aren't using Open Transport,
check the Network control panel. If you are
using Open Transport check the TCP/IP control
panel to be sure
--- Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that I think about it, you can play MP3s on a
486. Not
particularly well, but a 486/100 will do it
real-time.
I've hit a brick wall on the 475. mpg123 crashes out
due to a lack of
FPU (At least that's what it says) and all of my
Quadras
--- Sai kee Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
clipped stuff about 601 upgraded mystic LC575
into it. Any tricks to install the 7.1 into LC575 ?
Nope. The 601 upgrades for 68k Macs require a
minimum of System 7.5.
Apple's 601 upgrade control panel is designed only
for 040 Macs. If you use it on
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