Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[Kirin Jacobsen]

Testing. I sent out a different email with a run down as to whats up with
me and everything VW. Just seeing if this works.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 7:25 PM Anil Nair  wrote:

> I'm still here..Hi from Malaysia
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 3:55 AM Lloyd McClelland 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi  I’m still here , still have the ‘61 Beetle . I’ve sold the 57 Beetle-
>> the fun part ( for me) was it went to Kafer Dave ..who knows where it is
>> going next . Lloyd
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2019, at 9:11 AM, 'Rayvwbug' via VintagVW - Air Cooled
>> Volkswagen Discussion List  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have a 69 vert in pieces for so long I forget the order that it came
>> apart. Can anyone tell me order of reassembling the dash?  Assume dash pad,
>> gauges and switches,  glove box, etc
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: No Quarter 
>> Date: 1/21/19 9:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?
>>
>> No but I still have that bug.  I got married and then had a house built
>> in
>> the country.  Li'l Red is sitting in my parent's back yard so it's my
>> goal
>> to get him fired up and start driving him again this year.  I never get
>> rid
>> of anything so I still have all my dubs and then some.  LOL!
>>
>> I'm glad this list is still here - quite a few others I was on are no
>> longer
>> so maybe we can rekindle this list for a bit more...
>>
>> NQ
>> - Original Message -
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>> To: 
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>> >I had forgotten all about this list. Subscribed in the 90's.  NQ - is
>> Lil
>> >Red still on the road?
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[vintagvw] State of Seabert

[Kirin Jacobsen]

Hi all,
Its been a very long time since I have made a post of this length. Today's
number of posts has brought back a great bit of nostalgia for me. After all
it was this list that actually got me my beetle. Anyways I wanted to give
you a recap of whats gone on it probably about the last 15 years of owning
this Beetle. I won't ever sell it, its got a life time place in my garage.

The car itself has gone through a few iterations. I did a refresh for my
highschool grad with a new interior, fresh 1600dp, disc brakes and it was
VERY slammomatic. It got put into storage for a year while I spent a year
abroad. I came back sorted out the last few niggly things. Was all geared
up to spend the show season enjoying the car when disaster struck. I got
rearended on my way to an event that I had planned by another bug. It wiped
out the rear apron, fender, decklid etc. At that point I wasn't quite sure
what to do since the paint was pretty faded out most likely from some cheap
respray. At that point with the encouragement of my friends I blew it all
apart for a complete rotesserie resto.

It spent 3 years in the body shop. Luckily because it was a California car
it had virtually no rust. Although the only original bolt on panels that
are on the car I'm pretty sure are the hood, drivers front fender, and
passenger door and possibly the passenger rear fender. Body work was slow.
And amongst all this I moved out of town to go to university and life
ultimately got in the way. 5 years ago I bought a house with a 23x23 foot
heated shop(Long potentially cold winters here). The bug came home and I
started working on it again after 8 months renoeing my 1962 British
Columbia box house.

I made decent headway and then eventually got engaged. And like what had
happened in prep for the original tight deadline for my beetle, it happend
again. I was determined to get it finished for my wedding. I managed to
finish putting together the Resto-cal look car of my dreams. It turned out
better than I expected, yet I can see all its flaws that probably no one
else will ever notice. Its super gratifying to see it sitting parked some
where and every one comments on how shiney it is.

And then after enjoying it for a month or so 6 weeks before my wedding the
new 1914 developed a horrible rattle and lost power. I limped it home, tore
it apart and found out that some piece of hardware had made it's way down
the intake and had beat up cylinder head and piston top.

Luckily Volkswagen people are the best. I had friends loan me a 1600dp and
my car managed to make it to my wedding. Over the fall I have torn the 1914
down and am just waiting on receiving the cylinder head back from Brothers
Machine shop.

So of course I'm going to have a ton of questions. This is my first motor
build. Albeit all the parts have under 1000 miles on them. Long term
thoughts with this car are to eventually add air conditioning. I also
terribly want a Split window van to round out the fleet. But I'm going to
have to wait a bit on that.

In the mean time I have to finish sorting out my new daily driver(Nissan
Xterra) and then it's time to figure out how to get this 1914 back together.

Enough ramblings for this evening. Thanks for reading.

-Kirin
Seabert 1962 Turkis Restocal

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Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[Anil Nair]

I'm still here..Hi from Malaysia

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 3:55 AM Lloyd McClelland 
wrote:

> Hi  I’m still here , still have the ‘61 Beetle . I’ve sold the 57 Beetle-
> the fun part ( for me) was it went to Kafer Dave ..who knows where it is
> going next . Lloyd
>
> On Jan 23, 2019, at 9:11 AM, 'Rayvwbug' via VintagVW - Air Cooled
> Volkswagen Discussion List  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have a 69 vert in pieces for so long I forget the order that it came
> apart. Can anyone tell me order of reassembling the dash?  Assume dash pad,
> gauges and switches,  glove box, etc
>
> Thanks
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: No Quarter 
> Date: 1/21/19 9:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?
>
> No but I still have that bug.  I got married and then had a house built in
> the country.  Li'l Red is sitting in my parent's back yard so it's my goal
> to get him fired up and start driving him again this year.  I never get
> rid
> of anything so I still have all my dubs and then some.  LOL!
>
> I'm glad this list is still here - quite a few others I was on are no
> longer
> so maybe we can rekindle this list for a bit more...
>
> NQ
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?
>
>
> >I had forgotten all about this list. Subscribed in the 90's.  NQ - is Lil
> >Red still on the road?
> >
> >
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[vintagvw] Beetle Dash Reassembly

['Rayvwbug' via VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List]

Thanks NQ


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone

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From: No Quarter  
Date: 1/23/19  1:56 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working? 

That's a toughy Ray and I'm sorry I can't help you with that.  I would 
encourage you to do some deep scans on youtube and see if you can find 
anything on there.  Also, in depth thread searches on thesamba could also 
help.  They haven't helped me much with my quest for the stroker VW engine 
with the 34-pict-3 carburetor on it, but others have been sending me links 
and what info they can scare up so that will be a big help whether I find 
the website or not.

NQ
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?




Hi All,
I have a 69 vert in pieces for so long I forget the order that it came 
apart. Can anyone tell me order of reassembling the dash? Assume dash pad, 
gauges and switches, glove box, etc
Thanks
Ray


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
From: No Quarter 
Date: 1/21/19  9:23 PM  (GMT-05:00)
To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

No but I still have that bug. I got married and then had a house built in
the country. Li'l Red is sitting in my parent's back yard so it's my goal
to get him fired up and start driving him again this year. I never get rid
of anything so I still have all my dubs and then some. LOL!

I'm glad this list is still here - quite a few others I was on are no longer
so maybe we can rekindle this list for a bit more...

NQ
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?


>I had forgotten all about this list. Subscribed in the 90's. NQ - is Lil
>Red still on the road?
>
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> Brian B.
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Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[Lloyd McClelland]

Hi  I’m still here , still have the ‘61 Beetle . I’ve sold the 57 Beetle- the 
fun part ( for me) was it went to Kafer Dave ..who knows where it is going next 
. Lloyd 

On Jan 23, 2019, at 9:11 AM, 'Rayvwbug' via VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen 
Discussion List  wrote:

Hi All,

I have a 69 vert in pieces for so long I forget the order that it came apart. 
Can anyone tell me order of reassembling the dash?  Assume dash pad, gauges and 
switches,  glove box, etc

Thanks 

Ray



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


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Date: 1/21/19 9:23 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com 
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No but I still have that bug.  I got married and then had a house built in 
the country.  Li'l Red is sitting in my parent's back yard so it's my goal 
to get him fired up and start driving him again this year.  I never get rid 
of anything so I still have all my dubs and then some.  LOL!

I'm glad this list is still here - quite a few others I was on are no longer 
so maybe we can rekindle this list for a bit more...

NQ
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?


>I had forgotten all about this list. Subscribed in the 90's.  NQ - is Lil 
>Red still on the road?
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Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[No Quarter]

Thanks for your reply Dave.  *THIS* is the grass-roots info I'm looking for 
and when I mentioned to my wife about snagging another state we've never 
been to, she jumped on it.  I said told her you might have a place to sleep 
in a shed and she was even more on board!  I know I didn't mention anything 
about her coming along so if that's a no-go, no worries - we can always 
spring for a motel.  She's so onboard infact she's already looking for what 
days she can take off for the trip.  I'm going to take you up on this and 
plan to be a PIYA for a day or 2 while I take notes, pictures, and soak it 
all up.  You have all the beer coming to you that you want plus some money 
because I really appreciate you helping me on this.  I told Enid (my wife) 
that when I start working on her beetle, I want that engine to be a 1600DP 
with FI so that she doesn't have to monkey around with chokes and so forth. 
She's never driven anything with a carburetor and in fact has driven more in 
the USA than she ever did growing up in Australia due to public 
transportation.  So if you can handle hearing the Aussie accent for awhile 
then get your questions ready and she'll be glad to answer.


Concerning your setup, I had read that you could do a cheap method of 
creating the pressurized fuel pump ring by installing a T-fitting underneath 
the tank and also back at the engine so that the excess pressure can just 
recirculate without having to add another spigot on the tank.  Kind of a 
lazy way, but I was told it works.


With a dual FI setup, I would expect to have to syncrhonize both sides to 
get the airflow adjusted properly and fiddling around with a laptop doesn't 
bother me.  I just don't want the bother of dorking with carbs.


We own a 1995 Mexican beetle that we towed home from KC about 6 or 7 years 
ago.  It has the stock FI that they came with in Mexico and it was another 
minor goal of mine to reverse-engineer that setup so that I could copy it. 
As it turns out, next year that beetle is 25 years old and I can license it 
for use on the road and fully intend to.  I had heard that the stock FI 
detuned the engine down to 48hp so I wasn't all too keen about that, so if I 
could do a homebrew setup that wouldn't leave me having to learn Spanish so 
as to get my replacement parts ordered, I'd rather go that way.


As far as running an additional metal fuel line, I'm sure I could figure out 
how to run it through the tunnel or even along the brake line on the floor 
in the car.  That is a bit of work yes, but to me that's a piece of cake 
that is far easier to eat than monkeying with dual carbs.


With the wiring and GM crimp tool - that's the kind of stuff I need to know.


NQ, count on about a 10% power increase with FI.

Loving it even more.

150hp from a 1776cc and I assume with a turbo - not a bad deal at all.  I 
had thought about a super charger years ago.  Build a bullet proof bottom 
end and then brute force the power with a super charger or turbo.



Yes, there is a learning curve but once you understand the fuel is
delivered based on throttle position, rpm, map, o2 sensor(and the fuel
table)...you are done.


The learning curve doesn't bother me if I have someone to help me through 
it.  I appreciate this like you wouldn't believe.  In fact, if you decide to 
do this as some kind of seminar, you may end up with a little gathering of 
people if you're open to it.  I know others wish to learn this stuff too.


Enid and I live in Beatrice, NE so we are not far from you at all.  We can 
be in NW Arkansas in a touch over 6 hours.


If you're serious about the offer then I can be reached at 
moc.enecirtaeb@tnelis (which is my email backwards) and we can make the 
plans off-list.


Cheers!  (Very Aussie/Brit of you.)

NQ

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[vintagvw] Sorry for my typos

[No Quarter]

I've ventured into the world of smart phones over the past year or 2 and of 
course since I'm so cheap, I can't buy them new.  I taught myself (via 
youtube) how to fix Samsung Galaxy S4 units so I like to buy them with 
problems and combine the good parts to make a good working one - just like I 
do with VWs.  :)


Since I use the smart phone to reply from time to time and I subscribe via 2 
email accounts, sometimes you will see a message from Lazlo (which is still 
me - just my gmail moniker) and with all the typos that almost makes it so 
that I need to translate my own messages, you can rest assured that it's all 
thumbs on the smart phone coupled with auto-correct that create that mess in 
the first place.


NQ

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Re: [vintagvw] Re: Is the VintagVW list still working?

[No Quarter]

Yeah Bruce losing Rob was a shock.  We had a great time on our 2001 
California trip.  The 3 of us started the Buskatiers group and this year is 
our 20th year anniversary of Bustoberfest - our annual gathering at Indian 
Cave State Park.  We had a chat and got caught up and since I've been out of 
the scene for many years, I've decided it wouldn't hurt me to come back at 
least in part.  I'm a married man now and have responsibilities so I can't 
do VW all the time, but I can make a little room for it as a tribute to Rob. 
I had no idea he was sick and at least now he doesn't have to worry about 
his health, but when I see him again, I'm gonna give him an earful about 
taking care of himself and then hit the road.


Hang on to that green Johnny Lightning single cab with the Buskatiers logo 
on the back.  That was in fact modeled from Rob's SC and Terry Wolfe took 
the photos.  They gave Rob a case of the SC's for free for his contribution. 
My wife and I each have a signed copy that will never leave us until we slip 
our earthly bonds.


NQ


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Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[No Quarter]

That's a toughy Ray and I'm sorry I can't help you with that.  I would 
encourage you to do some deep scans on youtube and see if you can find 
anything on there.  Also, in depth thread searches on thesamba could also 
help.  They haven't helped me much with my quest for the stroker VW engine 
with the 34-pict-3 carburetor on it, but others have been sending me links 
and what info they can scare up so that will be a big help whether I find 
the website or not.


NQ
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 11:11 AM
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Hi All,
I have a 69 vert in pieces for so long I forget the order that it came 
apart. Can anyone tell me order of reassembling the dash? Assume dash pad, 
gauges and switches, glove box, etc

Thanks
Ray


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone

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From: No Quarter 
Date: 1/21/19  9:23 PM  (GMT-05:00)
To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

No but I still have that bug. I got married and then had a house built in
the country. Li'l Red is sitting in my parent's back yard so it's my goal
to get him fired up and start driving him again this year. I never get rid
of anything so I still have all my dubs and then some. LOL!

I'm glad this list is still here - quite a few others I was on are no longer
so maybe we can rekindle this list for a bit more...

NQ
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From: "Brian" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?



I had forgotten all about this list. Subscribed in the 90's. NQ - is Lil
Red still on the road?


Brian B.

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Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[No Quarter]

Kirin thanks for hitting up your friend for info.  I do own a small 
harborfreight lathe so I have no problems cobbling something up with that if 
I have to.  If he is willing to do some kind of write-up, I can be reached 
here or even via facebook since we a FB friends (been reading your updates.)


Not to detract from Dave B's offer - I'm going to go get some hands-on 
training, but at this stage in the game, I'm open to what needs to be done 
to pull this off.  FI will help make my VW engines fire and forget (I know 
I'm lazy) so that I only need to care about maintenance.  This way I can 
build any sized VW engine I want, FI it, and enjoy driving rather than 
tinkering.


NQ 


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Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

['Rayvwbug' via VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List]

Hi All,
I have a 69 vert in pieces for so long I forget the order that it came apart. 
Can anyone tell me order of reassembling the dash?  Assume dash pad, gauges and 
switches,  glove box, etc
Thanks 
Ray


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone

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From: No Quarter  
Date: 1/21/19  9:23 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working? 

No but I still have that bug.  I got married and then had a house built in 
the country.  Li'l Red is sitting in my parent's back yard so it's my goal 
to get him fired up and start driving him again this year.  I never get rid 
of anything so I still have all my dubs and then some.  LOL!

I'm glad this list is still here - quite a few others I was on are no longer 
so maybe we can rekindle this list for a bit more...

NQ
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?


>I had forgotten all about this list. Subscribed in the 90's.  NQ - is Lil 
>Red still on the road?
>
>
> Brian B.
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Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[Dave C. Bolen]

NQ,

Longish on FI.

The 68 has been running megasquirt for 14 years.  After I replaced the 
pistons and cylinders I decided to leave the turbo off to be able to get
to places that I plan to update(edis and wide band o2 instead of 
narrowband).


Works just fine that way although I did retune it a little as the AAC p 
appear to work much better than the old Mahle's.


My setup...
CB FI intakes with 28lb/hr CB high Z injectors(no resistor pack needed).
CB FI rails
78 bus pressure regulator(replaced with better Holley adjustable 
regulator).

78 bus(2 L) throttle body(somewhat modified).
78 bus fuel pump and gas filter.
megasquirt from the second group buy(BTW the CPU on it now hitting EOL(End 
of life) but I have spares).
DISx ignition cause I use their tach output module for a clean injection 
signal.

Narrow band o2 sensor.
Intake manifold air temp sensor and engine temp sensor(not oil).
Throttle position sensor.

THIS IS a BLOW THRU setup when I get the turbo back on it.  No blow off 
valve needed.  Oh and the turbo stuff started out with a lobuget carb 
setup.


No spark control yet
NQ, there are sample fuel maps out there for VW guys galore(and mine).

Ok, here is the hard part.  Like anything with a diy setup and a computer, 
you are going to want to fiddle with it.  Tune from the front seat with a 
laptop.  Log a test run and then feed it to a piece of software that will

adjust the Fuel table for you.

Oh, and from the logging, I know it takes me about 4/10ths of  second to 
shift.


The biggest part of it is running the fuel line and the return back in to 
the tank.  Some easy ways around that and in a bus you don't have to go 
farbut you must have a fuel ring(hi pressure gas).


THen there is the wiring.  Not too bad but you need the tool to do
crimps on GM weatherpack connector pins.

NQ, count on about a 10% power increase with FI.

My 1776 with turbo and meqaquirt is just awesome, no fall off in power
in 4th gear(in cool weather).  VERY streetable but there when you want it 
and guessing about 150hp in anything less than 90 degree weather.


Yes, there is a learning curve but once you understand the fuel is 
delivered based on throttle position, rpm, map, o2 sensor(and the fuel 
table)...you are done.


Want to come to North West Arkansas in the spring?
I teach for beer.
Got a brand new 1200 sq foot shop and a place to sleep.

Cheers, dave



On Wed, 23 Jan 2019, No Quarter wrote:


Hi Dave.  Thanks for your reply!  You analogy about relatives picking up from 
where they left off from is perfect.  That's what this is.  :)
I want this engine for my 62 double cab and 67 bus.  I would not build this way 
for a big, but torque is king in the bus and I want it all and I want it
low.  I had my first bad experience with CB Performance large valve heads on my 
1776.  It would have made tons of power, but in the bus at the point where
the power band was kicking in, the bus hit terminal velocity.  I was forever 
running behind the power curve.  Traded straight across for Gene Berg 3 angle
valve job stock valves and the power came in where I wanted it.  The guy I'm 
looking for was building stroker engines for the bus crowd and he told me all
he did was pull the venturi and up the main jet one size.  He could tune it up 
and off he went.  I've never had a vw engine over 4K and in fact my bus would
cruise 3600 to 3800 rpm all day long.  I suffered some low end losses with the 
freeway flyer and tall tires so that 1st hear takeoffs took a lot of revving
to get going in the mountains and even around home.

A friend of mine in Lake Havasu City and I had a chat years ago about him 
working on old propane powered trucks in the mines and how these big old 6
cylinder trucks had such small valves.   They needed the increased port 
velocities down low for torque or they would never get anywhere.  He even bored 
out
a set of 1300cc heads and put them on a stroker engine for fun and then put 
them on his single cab.  He let his friend drive it and his friend said it
pulled like mad up to 35mph then fell flat on its face.  What did you do?  Lol!

It was an experiment to test the theory and for buses it it sound.   I need a 
conservative approach for my buses.  I know this is a type 1 list, but I feel
more at home here and I think the low end of the torque spectrum is worth 
investigating for those who would like to build an engine and last a long term 
due
to keeping the revs in check. 

I would love to venture into the world of fuel injection.   I'm fact, I would 
buy a plane ticket and pay someone who would let come to them and have them
teach and school me in what I need to do.  I'm only interested in naturally 
aspirated setups and I'd love to know just what parts I could pull from the
scrap heap to accomplish it.  I'd like to take notes, ask questions galore, get 
part numbers for the connectors and components, know how to create the
correct fuel maps and so forth.  I don't want to spend countless hours 

Re: [vintagvw] Re: Is the VintagVW list still working?

['Bruce Howard' via VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List]

I’m still here and glad to see others are too. Agreed that Facebook feels weird 
and isn’t a good replacement listserv. 

Sad news about Bill May, feel bad for missing the report or worse, forgotten. 
He was always a huge help. 

Terrible news too about Rob Laffoon. He was always cool to me when we lived in 
Omaha, always willing to chat. I have an autographed copy of his Johnny 
Lightning single cab. 

Still currently VW-less but my kid and I have our eye on a Ghia that an 
immigrant family is currently using as a play set. Already sourced a new roof 
with pillars and don’t even own it yet. Car life. 

Later,
VWguyBruce

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> On Jan 22, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Kirin Jacobsen  wrote:
> 
> Still here. About to rebuild my wounded 1914.
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 11:29 AM stokester > I'm still here fixing VW radios!
>> 
>> Nick Stokes
>> vwradios.com
>> 
>>> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 7:16:19 PM UTC-5, No Quarter wrote:
>>> Hi gang - NQ here.  I just wondered if the list was still running? 
>>> 
>>> NQ 
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Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[Kirin Jacobsen]

I will bug one of my friends who has w fuel injected bug. I know he did it
budget minded and used megasquirt. Think he used some fox body mustang
parts and milled up a crank trigger wheel.

Strangely thinking FI and vws makes me think of Sharkey. That car just got
parted out a short time ago after being in storage for a decade time
flies.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 7:09 AM No Quarter  Hi Dave.  Thanks for your reply!  You analogy about relatives picking up
> from where they left off from is perfect.  That's what this is.  :)
>
> I want this engine for my 62 double cab and 67 bus.  I would not build
> this way for a big, but torque is king in the bus and I want it all and I
> want it low.  I had my first bad experience with CB Performance large valve
> heads on my 1776.  It would have made tons of power, but in the bus at the
> point where the power band was kicking in, the bus hit terminal velocity.
> I was forever running behind the power curve.  Traded straight across for
> Gene Berg 3 angle valve job stock valves and the power came in where I
> wanted it.  The guy I'm looking for was building stroker engines for the
> bus crowd and he told me all he did was pull the venturi and up the main
> jet one size.  He could tune it up and off he went.  I've never had a vw
> engine over 4K and in fact my bus would cruise 3600 to 3800 rpm all day
> long.  I suffered some low end losses with the freeway flyer and tall tires
> so that 1st hear takeoffs took a lot of revving to get going in the
> mountains and even around home.
>
> A friend of mine in Lake Havasu City and I had a chat years ago about him
> working on old propane powered trucks in the mines and how these big old 6
> cylinder trucks had such small valves.   They needed the increased port
> velocities down low for torque or they would never get anywhere.  He even
> bored out a set of 1300cc heads and put them on a stroker engine for fun
> and then put them on his single cab.  He let his friend drive it and his
> friend said it pulled like mad up to 35mph then fell flat on its face.
> What did you do?  Lol!
>
> It was an experiment to test the theory and for buses it it sound.   I
> need a conservative approach for my buses.  I know this is a type 1 list,
> but I feel more at home here and I think the low end of the torque spectrum
> is worth investigating for those who would like to build an engine and last
> a long term due to keeping the revs in check.
>
> I would love to venture into the world of fuel injection.   I'm fact, I
> would buy a plane ticket and pay someone who would let come to them and
> have them teach and school me in what I need to do.  I'm only interested in
> naturally aspirated setups and I'd love to know just what parts I could
> pull from the scrap heap to accomplish it.  I'd like to take notes, ask
> questions galore, get part numbers for the connectors and components, know
> how to create the correct fuel maps and so forth.  I don't want to spend
> countless hours reading forums, conjecture, wading through and endless sea
> of talk in an effort to sleuth out some magical recipe.   It's why I'm
> willing to pay someone who has found a good budget approach to fuel
> injection and has done all the research.  Since I can't seem to find
> someone willing to teach me, then I'm forced to monkey with the idea of a
> 34 pict on a stroker.
>
> I really mean it.  I would pay a worthy amount for the data to make it
> worth someone's while.  Once I knew the recipe, I could build whatever
> engine I wanted and fuel inject it no longer being bound by the chains and
> shackles of carburetors.  Unless the person teaching me specifically said
> to not talk about it, I would gladly put on a seminar to teach people how
> to do the same.
>
> After all, happiness is only real when shared.
>
> NQ
>
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Dave C. Bolen" 
> Date: 23/01/2019 08:12 (GMT-06:00)
> To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?
>
>
> NQ(and others).
>
> Glad to see the list here.  It reminds me of my relatives, don't talk for
> 5 years and then pick right back up like it was yesterday.
>
> I've trimed my herd down to my 68 sedan(megasquirted 1776 turbo) and a 72
> KG 1914.  The turbo is newely back on the road after cracking a cylinder
> at 12psi...my fault though and another long story about what NOT do do
> in a hurry with your exhaust on a turbo.
>
> NQ, to answer your first question(the one that started this).
>
> I really don't think you could pass enough air and gas thru a 34pict to
> feed a 2 liter for very long.  My bet is that the jetting and idle circuit
> adjustments/changes would be a nightmareeven with a limit of 4000 rpm.
>
> Might be an interesting exercise though.
>
> Think about the throttle body on a 2L bus engine and the teeny tiny carb
> off of a 1200cc.  VW always managed their horsepower by adjusting the carb
> venturi size and the exhaust pipe size...mostly 

Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[Lazlo]

Yep Jeff that's the same Bill May.  His stamped louvered deck lid is now on
my 67 bus.  He dropped it off on his way to California.  As I recall Bill
got home from a funeral of a friend and succumbed to death himself.  These
guys who lived ot are getting older and there is a steady stream of loss
underway.  We just have to soak up as much as we can so yhe torch gets
passed on.  I was in my mid 20s when I signed on this list.  In 2.5 years I
will be 50.  Young and spry NQ is a memory, but the kid inside still lives
onfor now...

NQ

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 08:30 Jeffrey Bateman  "Yes when Bill died I felt so bad."  Is that Bill May?  I believe I have
> his last name correct.  This "Bill" I believe lived up north and then moved
> to California.  He was a walking encyclopedia on VW's.  He helped me on
> several occasions when I was restoring my 70 bug. Very nice and helpful.
>
> *
> *
>
> --
> *From:* vintagvw@googlegroups.com  on behalf
> of No Quarter 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:43 PM
> *To:* vintagvw@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?
>
> I'm going to reply to everyone in one fell swoop.
>
> It's good to see all of you on here.
>
> Dave Bolen:  Glad to see you're still here.  You can tell who the
> die-hards
> are can't you?  :)
>
> Ray:  Yes when Bill died I felt so bad.  Just under 2 weeks ago we lost
> Rob
> Laffoon from Omaha, NE otherwise known at captoaster.  He drove that green
> single cab for 18 years and in fact, it's his bus that Johnny Lightning
> reproduced right down to the Buskatiers logo on the back!
>
> Nick Stokes:  I am *SO* glad you piped up.  I was at work when I saw your
> post come through and I thought by golly I've put it off long enough.  I
> have a 6v short wave radio in an old early 60s bug.  I'm going to go down
> to
> the VW line up and pull that thing out and send it to you.  I'd like that
> thing made to work and replace what should be replaced.  It's such a rare
> rig and I think it would make a great radio to install in one of my VWs.
> I
> assume all pertinent info is listed on your website.
>
> Kirin:  I've been following your saga on facebook.  Sorry about the engine
> trouble - it's always the littlest things that cause the biggest problems.
>
> Bert:  If Gilbert comes back on here, I hope he writes me.  I have some VW
> parts of his and when I run across them, I'd like to send them back to
> him.
> At the very least, I'd like him to contact me privately so I could get
> that
> wrapped up.
>
> Mike Morehouse:  I remember when you were getting that bug fixed up.  The
> way you're talking, it sounds like you're going to sign off the list.  Are
> you in fact leaving or are you sticking around?  My wife and I were in
> Florida April of 2017.  Too bad we couldn't have met up.  Charlie Ford
> lives
> in Tampa, FL and we spent a few days with him and his wife.  His search
> for
> the beginning of wind was epic and he just gave up the Mothership to
> another
> deserving individual within the past year.  It was hard but also time for
> another chapter in his life and the Mothership's.
>
> That about covers it.  Glad to see you all still around.
>
> BTW:  Does anyone at all rememeber a guy out west that did those stroker
> bus
> engines and made them look totally stock?  I cannot find his website - he
> had detailed engines that were just beautiful and he used a 34-pict-3 with
> the venturi pulled out and one jet size bigger.  I lost his info and kick
> myself over it .  20 bucks to the person that finds that website for me.
>
> Catch y'all later...
>
> NQ
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Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[No Quarter]

Hi Dave.  Thanks for your reply!  You analogy about relatives picking up from 
where they left off from is perfect.  That's what this is.  :)
I want this engine for my 62 double cab and 67 bus.  I would not build this way 
for a big, but torque is king in the bus and I want it all and I want it low.  
I had my first bad experience with CB Performance large valve heads on my 1776. 
 It would have made tons of power, but in the bus at the point where the power 
band was kicking in, the bus hit terminal velocity.  I was forever running 
behind the power curve.  Traded straight across for Gene Berg 3 angle valve job 
stock valves and the power came in where I wanted it.  The guy I'm looking for 
was building stroker engines for the bus crowd and he told me all he did was 
pull the venturi and up the main jet one size.  He could tune it up and off he 
went.  I've never had a vw engine over 4K and in fact my bus would cruise 3600 
to 3800 rpm all day long.  I suffered some low end losses with the freeway 
flyer and tall tires so that 1st hear takeoffs took a lot of revving to get 
going in the mountains and even around home.
A friend of mine in Lake Havasu City and I had a chat years ago about him 
working on old propane powered trucks in the mines and how these big old 6 
cylinder trucks had such small valves.   They needed the increased port 
velocities down low for torque or they would never get anywhere.  He even bored 
out a set of 1300cc heads and put them on a stroker engine for fun and then put 
them on his single cab.  He let his friend drive it and his friend said it 
pulled like mad up to 35mph then fell flat on its face.  What did you do?  Lol!
It was an experiment to test the theory and for buses it it sound.   I need a 
conservative approach for my buses.  I know this is a type 1 list, but I feel 
more at home here and I think the low end of the torque spectrum is worth 
investigating for those who would like to build an engine and last a long term 
due to keeping the revs in check. 
I would love to venture into the world of fuel injection.   I'm fact, I would 
buy a plane ticket and pay someone who would let come to them and have them 
teach and school me in what I need to do.  I'm only interested in naturally 
aspirated setups and I'd love to know just what parts I could pull from the 
scrap heap to accomplish it.  I'd like to take notes, ask questions galore, get 
part numbers for the connectors and components, know how to create the correct 
fuel maps and so forth.  I don't want to spend countless hours reading forums, 
conjecture, wading through and endless sea of talk in an effort to sleuth out 
some magical recipe.   It's why I'm willing to pay someone who has found a good 
budget approach to fuel injection and has done all the research.  Since I can't 
seem to find someone willing to teach me, then I'm forced to monkey with the 
idea of a 34 pict on a stroker.
I really mean it.  I would pay a worthy amount for the data to make it worth 
someone's while.  Once I knew the recipe, I could build whatever engine I 
wanted and fuel inject it no longer being bound by the chains and shackles of 
carburetors.  Unless the person teaching me specifically said to not talk about 
it, I would gladly put on a seminar to teach people how to do the same.
After all, happiness is only real when shared.
NQ



 Original message 
From: "Dave C. Bolen"  
Date: 23/01/2019  08:12  (GMT-06:00) 
To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working? 


NQ(and others).

Glad to see the list here.  It reminds me of my relatives, don't talk for 
5 years and then pick right back up like it was yesterday.

I've trimed my herd down to my 68 sedan(megasquirted 1776 turbo) and a 72 
KG 1914.  The turbo is newely back on the road after cracking a cylinder
at 12psi...my fault though and another long story about what NOT do do
in a hurry with your exhaust on a turbo.

NQ, to answer your first question(the one that started this).

I really don't think you could pass enough air and gas thru a 34pict to 
feed a 2 liter for very long.  My bet is that the jetting and idle circuit 
adjustments/changes would be a nightmareeven with a limit of 4000 rpm.

Might be an interesting exercise though.

Think about the throttle body on a 2L bus engine and the teeny tiny carb 
off of a 1200cc.  VW always managed their horsepower by adjusting the carb
venturi size and the exhaust pipe size...mostly for longetivity as many of 
us have learned over the years.

On the other hand!  Wasn't it Bill May who always touted the torque coming 
out of a mildly modified single port?  Seems like he always believed that
the single port made more torque down low than the dual port.

Ya didn't say what you wanted to put this engine in, but I'm thinking it 
wasn't something you were going to put on the hiway.

Go back to the "famous" hot vw's 1776 daily driver beginings and I think 
they tested with a 

Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

[Dave C. Bolen]

NQ(and others).

Glad to see the list here.  It reminds me of my relatives, don't talk for 
5 years and then pick right back up like it was yesterday.


I've trimed my herd down to my 68 sedan(megasquirted 1776 turbo) and a 72 
KG 1914.  The turbo is newely back on the road after cracking a cylinder

at 12psi...my fault though and another long story about what NOT do do
in a hurry with your exhaust on a turbo.

NQ, to answer your first question(the one that started this).

I really don't think you could pass enough air and gas thru a 34pict to 
feed a 2 liter for very long.  My bet is that the jetting and idle circuit 
adjustments/changes would be a nightmareeven with a limit of 4000 rpm.


Might be an interesting exercise though.

Think about the throttle body on a 2L bus engine and the teeny tiny carb 
off of a 1200cc.  VW always managed their horsepower by adjusting the carb
venturi size and the exhaust pipe size...mostly for longetivity as many of 
us have learned over the years.


On the other hand!  Wasn't it Bill May who always touted the torque coming 
out of a mildly modified single port?  Seems like he always believed that

the single port made more torque down low than the dual port.

Ya didn't say what you wanted to put this engine in, but I'm thinking it 
wasn't something you were going to put on the hiway.


Go back to the "famous" hot vw's 1776 daily driver beginings and I think 
they tested with a 34pict to start with...they had dyno numbers also.


Now, time to tell *why* you want an engine like that!

Cheers, dave

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[Jeffrey Bateman]

"Yes when Bill died I felt so bad."  Is that Bill May?  I believe I have his 
last name correct.  This "Bill" I believe lived up north and then moved to 
California.  He was a walking encyclopedia on VW's.  He helped me on several 
occasions when I was restoring my 70 bug. Very nice and helpful.




From: vintagvw@googlegroups.com  on behalf of No 
Quarter 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:43 PM
To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working?

I'm going to reply to everyone in one fell swoop.

It's good to see all of you on here.

Dave Bolen:  Glad to see you're still here.  You can tell who the die-hards
are can't you?  :)

Ray:  Yes when Bill died I felt so bad.  Just under 2 weeks ago we lost Rob
Laffoon from Omaha, NE otherwise known at captoaster.  He drove that green
single cab for 18 years and in fact, it's his bus that Johnny Lightning
reproduced right down to the Buskatiers logo on the back!

Nick Stokes:  I am *SO* glad you piped up.  I was at work when I saw your
post come through and I thought by golly I've put it off long enough.  I
have a 6v short wave radio in an old early 60s bug.  I'm going to go down to
the VW line up and pull that thing out and send it to you.  I'd like that
thing made to work and replace what should be replaced.  It's such a rare
rig and I think it would make a great radio to install in one of my VWs.  I
assume all pertinent info is listed on your website.

Kirin:  I've been following your saga on facebook.  Sorry about the engine
trouble - it's always the littlest things that cause the biggest problems.

Bert:  If Gilbert comes back on here, I hope he writes me.  I have some VW
parts of his and when I run across them, I'd like to send them back to him.
At the very least, I'd like him to contact me privately so I could get that
wrapped up.

Mike Morehouse:  I remember when you were getting that bug fixed up.  The
way you're talking, it sounds like you're going to sign off the list.  Are
you in fact leaving or are you sticking around?  My wife and I were in
Florida April of 2017.  Too bad we couldn't have met up.  Charlie Ford lives
in Tampa, FL and we spent a few days with him and his wife.  His search for
the beginning of wind was epic and he just gave up the Mothership to another
deserving individual within the past year.  It was hard but also time for
another chapter in his life and the Mothership's.

That about covers it.  Glad to see you all still around.

BTW:  Does anyone at all rememeber a guy out west that did those stroker bus
engines and made them look totally stock?  I cannot find his website - he
had detailed engines that were just beautiful and he used a 34-pict-3 with
the venturi pulled out and one jet size bigger.  I lost his info and kick
myself over it .  20 bucks to the person that finds that website for me.

Catch y'all later...

NQ

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