Hi Dave.  Thanks for your reply!  You analogy about relatives picking up from 
where they left off from is perfect.  That's what this is.  :)
I want this engine for my 62 double cab and 67 bus.  I would not build this way 
for a big, but torque is king in the bus and I want it all and I want it low.  
I had my first bad experience with CB Performance large valve heads on my 1776. 
 It would have made tons of power, but in the bus at the point where the power 
band was kicking in, the bus hit terminal velocity.  I was forever running 
behind the power curve.  Traded straight across for Gene Berg 3 angle valve job 
stock valves and the power came in where I wanted it.  The guy I'm looking for 
was building stroker engines for the bus crowd and he told me all he did was 
pull the venturi and up the main jet one size.  He could tune it up and off he 
went.  I've never had a vw engine over 4K and in fact my bus would cruise 3600 
to 3800 rpm all day long.  I suffered some low end losses with the freeway 
flyer and tall tires so that 1st hear takeoffs took a lot of revving to get 
going in the mountains and even around home.
A friend of mine in Lake Havasu City and I had a chat years ago about him 
working on old propane powered trucks in the mines and how these big old 6 
cylinder trucks had such small valves.   They needed the increased port 
velocities down low for torque or they would never get anywhere.  He even bored 
out a set of 1300cc heads and put them on a stroker engine for fun and then put 
them on his single cab.  He let his friend drive it and his friend said it 
pulled like mad up to 35mph then fell flat on its face.  What did you do?  Lol!
It was an experiment to test the theory and for buses it it sound.   I need a 
conservative approach for my buses.  I know this is a type 1 list, but I feel 
more at home here and I think the low end of the torque spectrum is worth 
investigating for those who would like to build an engine and last a long term 
due to keeping the revs in check. 
I would love to venture into the world of fuel injection.   I'm fact, I would 
buy a plane ticket and pay someone who would let come to them and have them 
teach and school me in what I need to do.  I'm only interested in naturally 
aspirated setups and I'd love to know just what parts I could pull from the 
scrap heap to accomplish it.  I'd like to take notes, ask questions galore, get 
part numbers for the connectors and components, know how to create the correct 
fuel maps and so forth.  I don't want to spend countless hours reading forums, 
conjecture, wading through and endless sea of talk in an effort to sleuth out 
some magical recipe.   It's why I'm willing to pay someone who has found a good 
budget approach to fuel injection and has done all the research.  Since I can't 
seem to find someone willing to teach me, then I'm forced to monkey with the 
idea of a 34 pict on a stroker.
I really mean it.  I would pay a worthy amount for the data to make it worth 
someone's while.  Once I knew the recipe, I could build whatever engine I 
wanted and fuel inject it no longer being bound by the chains and shackles of 
carburetors.  Unless the person teaching me specifically said to not talk about 
it, I would gladly put on a seminar to teach people how to do the same.
After all, happiness is only real when shared.
NQ



-------- Original message --------
From: "Dave C. Bolen" <dbo...@shockwaverider.com> 
Date: 23/01/2019  08:12  (GMT-06:00) 
To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Is the VintagVW list still working? 


NQ(and others).

Glad to see the list here.  It reminds me of my relatives, don't talk for 
5 years and then pick right back up like it was yesterday.

I've trimed my herd down to my 68 sedan(megasquirted 1776 turbo) and a 72 
KG 1914.  The turbo is newely back on the road after cracking a cylinder
at 12psi...my fault though and another long story about what NOT do do
in a hurry with your exhaust on a turbo.

NQ, to answer your first question(the one that started this).

I really don't think you could pass enough air and gas thru a 34pict to 
feed a 2 liter for very long.  My bet is that the jetting and idle circuit 
adjustments/changes would be a nightmare....even with a limit of 4000 rpm.

Might be an interesting exercise though.

Think about the throttle body on a 2L bus engine and the teeny tiny carb 
off of a 1200cc.  VW always managed their horsepower by adjusting the carb
venturi size and the exhaust pipe size...mostly for longetivity as many of 
us have learned over the years.

On the other hand!  Wasn't it Bill May who always touted the torque coming 
out of a mildly modified single port?  Seems like he always believed that
the single port made more torque down low than the dual port.

Ya didn't say what you wanted to put this engine in, but I'm thinking it 
wasn't something you were going to put on the hiway.

Go back to the "famous" hot vw's 1776 daily driver beginings and I think 
they tested with a 34pict to start with...they had dyno numbers also.

Now, time to tell *why* you want an engine like that!

Cheers, dave

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