Hi Sieghard,
I remember the days when one needed to go to a phone store to have them cut the
full size sim card to the Nano sim size. My first experience was in 2012 in
Jordan. When the store tech told me he is going to cut the sim card, I got very
nervous.somehow I thought that he may screw up
Hi Chris,
I remember when the iPhone 5S first came out which had the Nano SIM that I went
to the Philippines and had a really hard time finding a Nano SIM since most of
the carriers and devices still used full-size SIM's or Micro SIM's. I ended up
finding a place where they told me that a
Hi folks,
I followed this thread with interest, because I travel overseas frequently
enough to be concerned about the lack of physical sim tray in iPhone 14 series
sold in the US. Each time I travel to another country I buy a local sim
specific to the country I am visiting. Usually it takes
Here is an article that may help. Link to web page is at the end.
What do eSIMs mean for switching network?
using phone
This is perhaps the key advantage of eSIMs. As it stands switching networks can
be fiddly and time-consuming, but eSIMs look set to change all that.
Because they are
This is exactly what I was thinking. Although I am a fan of switching sim cards
to play with other phones, I do imagine that someone will come up with a way of
easily transferring an ESim from one phone to another. Question is would this
be a user accessible possibility? I have no idea but I
I would refuse to have an eSIM unless I was given a specific set of
instructions as to how to transfer the Sim between one found in another. I have
my old iPhone six which I would want to go to if my present iPhone gives me
problems. I would not want to be without that physical Sim card for
That seems to be correct
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 5:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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with a
I hope that is the case, so that there will still be a choice, not that I want
it, but I can well remember when I did want it.
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Michael Irons
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 4:25 PM
To:
I think, maybe the catch to Face ID is holding the phone at least ten inches
away from your face.
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Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
I believe the SE models will have a home button as long as there’s a large
number of people making it down that they really have to be able to go home. Rip
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> On Oct 20, 2022, at 2:15 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> I think it is kind of like the Home
Speaking of the home button, it isn't getting used to no home button
that is a problem for me. I'm getting used to face ID and that is
still somewhat of an issue for me. Not having a home button, is no
big deal. I just wish I could still have touch ID instead of face ID.
On 10/20/22, Carolyn
I think it is kind of like the Home Button; there are those who will grieve. I
wonder how much longer the SE models will have a Home Button?
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 20,
Sieghard and all,
To be fair, I think this thread is actually relevant in that there have been
other discussions here about accessibility / bugs between iOS versions where
someone might actually feel like they want to move a sim to another phone
running a different OS for accessibility
And if all you have to do is transfer your e-SIM from your old iPhone to your
new one during the setup process of your new phone it would be just as easy
peasy.
I understand why people who make a living reviewing products have multiple
phones and want to transfer a SIM from one device to
Apple makes six variants of each version of the iPhone 14 lineup. The
different variants have unique cell phone frequencies for the region
of the phone. For example, American cell phone carriers use
frequencies used in no other part of the world. Outside the big metro
areas, carriers support
Maybe those who really want a physical sim card should check out the new iPad
that was announced on Thursday. 10.9 inch with a physical SIM on those
units... much cheaper than an iPhone 14 pro max...
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
My guess is that eventually, SIM cards will be like analog - outdated. I am
sorry for those who feel that SIM cards are important, but as I keep telling my
husband, life goes on whether or not we do.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
I have had the same sim card now since my iPhone 5S. Each time I get a new one
I just pop the card out and put it in the new one. Easy peasy.
Chris Judge
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Sent: October 19, 2022 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
If you did that your iPhone 8 would be your active phone again.
Chris Judge
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Sent: October 19, 2022 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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It maybe perfectly reasonable as far as it goes, but apart from Mark being the
list moderator the question also has little or nothing to do with the purpose
of this list which is about the iPhone's accessibility features and physical
SIM or e-SIM do not factor into accessibility.
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Then you should not support Apple by buying a phone which does not meet your
requirements. Maybe if enough people do this Apple will put a SIM tray into the
iPhone 15 again although I personally probably wouldn't hold my breath. It
would seem that e-SIM is where ?Apple thinks the world is going
It will continue to work nicely until you need a new phone in 2, 3, 4 or 5
years or however long you decide you want to keep your iPhone SE third Gen and
at that point you will get a phone without SIM tray just as you do now when you
buy an iPhone 14 Pro.
I predict that in short order many
What would happen is that your iPhone 8 would have cell service and your
iPhone 13 Pro Max would not and that is the short and the long answer.
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Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 3:14 PM
To:
As it stands even if Mark decides to buy the phone from somewhere else
it should work just fine here in the states. I mean people buy the
phones here all the time and send them to other places. Yes if you
take your sim from your 13 and put it back in your 8 it will just
work.
On 10/19/22, Malcolm
I think Mark’s question is perfectly reasonable and has become confused with
other issues.
Here in the UK my understanding is that iPhone models come with a removable SIM
tray. When I discussed ESIM with my provider EE the person I spoke to was far
from advising me that an ESIM was the way to
The sad reality is, every time Apple shows "courage " look out, it means that
somethings about to get taken away. Just like every time something is done in
the name of "safety" it usually means some right or liberty is about to get
taken away, that's as far as I'll go into that on this list
I'd expect it to just work. I get the situation where people want to be able to
use multiple phones by just switching out the SIM card, but that's not
something I'm interested in doing. When I got my iPhone 11, the person at the
AT store basically just handed me my phone and I could walk out of
For my part, I don't expect the same feature set in all parts of the world for
the same device, and I wouldn't find this insulting. Just as people have the
right to choose which product they want to buy, companies have the right to
choose what product they want to sell, and this includes
Interesting, Joshua. Are you going to try?
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Joshua Hendrickson
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to
That is exactly what I intend to get, Dave. Fortunately, I don't care about the
card, but I sympathize with those to whom a card is important.
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dandrews...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday,
When I got my 13 pro max, I put in my sim card from my iPhone 8 for
the first time. It was surprisingly easy. I wonder what would happen
if I took the sim card from my 13 pro max and put it back into my
iPhone 8.
On 10/19/22, dandrews...@comcast.net wrote:
> I am not an expert in these things,
I am not an expert in these things, but I think that phones in specific
countries are set up to use the cell bands in use in that country, so if you
buy one from outside the United States, you could have problems, in theory. I
could be wrong, but if it were me, I would investigate.
Well,
13 pro max, unless you order from outside the states. This is pretty
much the only way, unless you have someone buy it and send it to you.
being someone that loves having the freedom to swap devices I get not
wanting this 14 pro max.
On 10/19/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> I do
I do the same, Regina, get the store person to get my phone going.
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regina alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does
Peter, with all do respect, this is not the same as the removal of the
headphone jack.
In that instance, the jack was removed from all new models of the phone,
regardless of from where they were purchased.
I did not start this thread to engage in a debate.
Each person is free to purchase his
It’s an interesting question. I keep getting the message on my 13 promax that I
don’t have a Sim card, and I Have to say okay each time. Is there a way to get
this off my phone or am I supposed to have a SIM card? By the way, what is a
SIM card? My education is lacking. I’m not sure I’ve ever
This is like the headphone jack controversy all over again .. LOL
Get ready for it again in a couple of years when the lightening port .. or at
the time USBC port goes away ..
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022
Well said, Julian.
In addition, if I pay the same money for a product as those outside the US,
then I expect the same feature set. It really is that simple. To me, selling
a phone model that does not offer the same features but that costs the same
price as the enhanced model, is insulting.
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> On Oct 19, 2022, at 1:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> I have the same question.
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18,
Apparently the iPHone isn't expensive enough already so he wants to add the
cost of going to Canada for the sake of a physical sim tray, which of course is
his choice.
Perhaps simply calling Apple and asking what happens if you do not specify a
carrier when ordering instead of mucking around
I have the same question.
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llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:50 PM
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Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro
I also would be annoyed by not being able to use a sim tray. What if you have
another phone that you want to switch to like possibly an Android model? This
used to be easy because all you have to do is simply switch the sim card from
one phone to the other. Now, as far as I know, you can't do
For what it's worth, some of us simply just enjoy the freedom of switching our
Sim card between phones without having to interact with our carrier. Remember
the good ole days of CDMA? Were you had to interact with the carrier and give
them your electronic serial number every time you wanted to
Wondering that too
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llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:50 PM
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Mark, I'm just curious, what's wrong with going the E-sim route? I
didn't have any trouble changing the physical sim-card from my iPhone
8 to my 13 pro max. However, if apple is going the e-sim route, then
personally I'd go with that option. However, again, I hope you can
find what you are
order it outside of the US that is the only way. Honestly if you can
find a deal on the 13 pro max take it.
On 10/18/22, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> My question, why a physical sim tray when an electronic sim works just
> fine?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From:
My question, why a physical sim tray when an electronic sim works just fine?
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro
To my knowledge, I don’t think there’s a way to get a physical Sim because if I
remember correctly, they stated that it was gonna be electronic so I could be
very wrong though. I could be very wrong, but I don’t think the model you’re
looking at has a physical Sim tray, but I could be very
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