Re: voice memos

2012-09-16 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Ruby,

Like you I'm also learning French using my iPhone and other devices.  
Currently I use the native Music app because I can turn MP3 files into books by 
changing the tags in iTunes.  You can then slow down or speed them up in the 
Music app.  Also, there are some nice podcasts out there that work well on the 
iPhone, my favorite is Coffee Break French.  If you want to share French 
learning resource ideas contact me off list.

Eric Caron 

On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Ruby Alphonse rubyalpho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 is there anyone who can help me, I need to know whether there is an option to 
 make the audio slow or fast for me to  study? I  want to learn french, will 
 IPod Touch help me for my learning? thanks in advance Ruby
 
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Re: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book

2012-09-16 Thread Craig Werner
After much experimenting, I have concluded that I can't get 
iBooks
links to activate and plan to write to accessibil...@apple.com soon.
Here is what I have discovered.  If anyone can report different
results, please let me know.

Problem:  When trying to activate a link in iBooks 2.1.1 that takes a
user to a different page of the book than the one being read, the
Double-tap gesture produces no results.

There is no links option on the rotor within the iBooks app.
Therefore, if a user wants to try to activate a link, he/she must stop
reading the text and go to the words or characters options of the
rotor, flick down until the title of the link is heard, and do a
double-tap.  I have tried tapping at several places on the line that
lists a particular link, all to no avail.  Damashe suggested that
links with other information on the same line might cause troubles,
and it is true that in the case of the iBook links I have been working
with, there is other information on the line, such as two
greater-than signs and a comma, but this information is not
contiguous to the title of the link.  At any rate, regardless of where
I double-tap on the line, I get no results.  The
double-tap-and-hold pass-through gesture does pop up a menu of
options, but these have to do with the word being selected, not with
the link itself.
Craig

On 9/12/12, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 This doesn't always work as sometimes the usual roter options are not always

 available in iBooks for me. Also, the double tap and hold doesn't work at
 all for navigation links that are supposed to move you to another part of
 the book. I am not sure if this is an accessibility issue or one related to

 formatting of a particular book or PDF as in some cases, the links work just

 fine and other times they don't.
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book


 Hello,

 When you use up and down flicks along with the rotor to navigate on to the

 exact link, use a double-tap and hold (pass-through gesture) to tell the
 iOS device you want to work specifically with the link. A menu of options

 should pop up.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 11/09/2012, at 14:25, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you, Dameshe and Scott, for weighing in.  I am going to get
 sighted help tomorrow and do some more experimenting.  Dameshe, from a
 character by character search of lines containing links, it certainly
 appears that any line containing a link carries other information
 besides the name of the link, including greater than signs
 signifying the presence of a link.  I'll be back with an update soon.

 Craig

 On 9/10/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Although this is not exactly related to this specific issue, I have
 found
 that trying to activate links in books using iBooks, while using a
 Braille
 display results in VoiceOver crashes and the link is never activated.
 I would be curious if anyone has had any success with speech and/or
 Braille
 when activating links. I think this is something that needs to be
 brought to
 APple's attention and I would encourage you to do so by e-mailing
 accessibil...@apple.com.

 On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have had a few books with links that didn't work. What seems to have
 happened is that the link isn't on a line by itself, usually I have a
 comma or some other punctuation. It's like if someone emails you a
 link,
 as onlg as that links text is all on one line you can usually click
 it.
 But if I wrote the url like this,
 www.google.coj,
 and you receive it with the comma after the m in .com, you can not
 activate that link.
 Try moving your finger down the screen til you get to the link then
 double
 tap it. If this method doesn't work, then I am afraid you have other
 punctuation or something on the line with the link.
 Sorry for the rambling message, hope it helped some.
 - Original Message - From: Craig Werner
 coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:54 AM
 Subject: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book


 Greetings to the list.

 I am using iBooks 1.1.1 on my iPhone 3GS to read a book in the Rough
 Guide travel series.  This book contains links to sections of
 chapters
 which it lists at the start of each chapter.  Try as I might, I
 cannot
 activate those links and jump to a desired page number.  I have
 stopped continuous reading, changed the rotor to word mode, and
 double-tapped on words in the title of the link and on the word
 link
 itself, all to no avail.  Of course, I can activate the search
 button and do a search for the desired section's title, but I'd
 rather
 just click on the 

Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless

2012-09-16 Thread Scott Howell
Grant,

I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I found that 
they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to check into this and 
ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers as they would those of us on 
3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks.

On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited
 customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I
 mistaken?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Grant
 
 On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark,
 
 I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data plan.
 However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed 3Gb,
 ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely unreasonable.
 Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to
 arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If ATT
 pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless you
 have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell. In
 fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with unlimited
 data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got
 pinged for this not long ago.
 
 On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T  T Wireless.  In
 fact,
 I preordered my iPhone 4.
 
 However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T  T
 Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the
 order
 before its completion.
 
 I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that one
 needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite
 right.
 
 
 As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online
 preorder process was a wise decision.
 
 Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T 
 T
 Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S
 preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not
 include unlimited data.
 
 Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so but
 I
 can tell you that A T  T Wireless would love to remove all of those
 remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to
 accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese
 that
 one will simply agree without reading it.
 
 In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go
 into
 an A T  T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my
 current
 device, and place it in the new device to insure that nothing funky
 happens
 with my data plan.
 
 Good Luck To All,
 
 Mark
 
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RE: Deleting from within music app

2012-09-16 Thread Ramy Moustafa
The other finger will tap anywhere on the screen or what?
Just 1 tap or 2 ?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of dr.andrewat...@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:33 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Deleting from within music app

Double tap, swipe to the right and tap with another finger at the end
of the swipe.
You're basically swiping to the right and touching with two fingers.

HTH
Andre



Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 I have 3gs, and I can't delete any song fromit, please please I need help


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 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kirsten Edmondson
 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Deleting from within music app

 Thanks, I'll try. It's funny, but I was wishing I could get Siri to do it
 too!

 Kirsten

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 15 Sep 2012, at 11:09, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Kirsten,
  It, (meaning your results) may vary from say, a 3GS to a 4S perhaps
since
 it
  depends on pinpoint timing in my experience.
 
  On my 4S I double-tap--Hold, wait for the tri-tone and while it is
still
  sounding I do a quick swipe to the right. This only works about 80% of
the
  time and the timing of the last part of the gesture seems to be the key,
 it
  has to be almost frantic for lack of a better description. And this is
 one
  continuous gesture without a finger lift inbetween.
 
  Once I get my 3GS back from the person who borrowed it way too long ago
 I'll
  try the same thing with the slower processor and report my findings.
It's
  not you but the gesture seems about as consistent as do the ones
 pertaining
  to the rotor. The rotor will cooperate 90% of the time and sometimes
  twisting it one direction works better than the other. But hey, 90's
 better
  than 80 so maybe the Apple gods are smiling down on us some days after
 all.
  Now if I could just talk Siri into doing that part . . .
 
  Jon
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
  Of Kirsten Edmondson
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:50 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Deleting from within music app
 
  I don't know what I'm doing wrong but can't get delete to come up when I
  double tap, hold and then swipe. There is a menu button which comes up
at
  the end of the whole list of albums, but double tapping and holding
 doesn't
  do anything either!
  Any suggestions?
  Thanks
 
 
  Kirsten
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 

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Re: imanuals for my iphone 4?

2012-09-16 Thread Fred Olver
Thanks, Esther, I knew I could count on you to point me in the right 
direction.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: Esther mori...@mac.com

To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: imanuals for my iphone 4?


Hi Fred,

I'll paste in the information from my comment to the AppleVis guide On
Easy access to the iOS manual:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/easy-access-ios-manual#comment-1677
There are two ways you can access these guides and read them on your
iOS device: one is to use the HTML version of the guide for the iPod,
iPhone, or iPad and iOS operating system.  The second is to search
iBooks for a version of same user guides to read in ePub versions in
iBooks.  Of the two, the HTML version is likely to always be the most
up to date.  You can also always create an icon for the HTML version
of the user guide on your iOS device home screen by double-tapping the
Utilities button in Safari (above the home button) and then double
tapping Add to Home Screen.  I use to navigate to the section on
VoiceOver or Accessibility and create a home screen icon that would
open to that section when I got my first iOS device.

Here's the information on how to find URLs for the most current (iOS
5) user guide manuals.  I suspect that for iOS 6, you'll simply use a
6 in place of the 5 following the device name of iPhone, iPad, or
iPodTouch.  For the user guide in other languages, change the two
letter code of en at the end to one appropriate for the language you
want.
begin quote
#3 Links to HTML versions of iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad manuals
Submitted by Esther on 31 December 2011.
This is an updated listing of the current HTML version of the
accessible HTML user guides for the iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPhone
under iOS 5.
* iPhone User Guide:
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/
• iPod Touch User Guide:
http://help.apple.com/ipodtouch/5/voiceover/en/
• iPad User Guide:
http://help.apple.com/ipad/5/voiceover/en/

For versions in other languages, change the two character code at the
end from en for English to the appropriate combination, for example:
fr for French
es for Spanish
it for Italian
de for German
nl for Dutch
ru for Russian
ja for Japanese
da for Danish
fi for Finnish
pt for Portuguese
sv for Swedish
nb for Norwegian
ar for Arabic
ko for Korean
ro for Romanian
sk for Slovak
hr for Croatian
sq for Albanian
bg for Bulgarian
cs for Czech
et for Estonian
he for Hebrew
hu for Hungarian
id for Indonesian
lt for Lithuanian
lv for Latvian
ms for Malay
pl for Polish
tr for Turkish
vi for Vietnamese

However, for Chinese you need to distinguish between traditional and
simplified characters, so the zh code is qualified as zh_CN for
simplified and zh_TW for traditional, as in:
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/zh_CN/
and
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/zh_TW/

There are probably other working language codes.
end quote

HTH. Cheers,

Esther


On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 I have been trying to find manuals that I can read on my iphone without 
 much success can anyone direct me to a manual in itunes or tell me the 
 name so I can go specificly to that manual? I have tried I O s and found 
 a couple by a company called G M B H I believe, but I thought they were 
 kinda spotty in their information.


 Thanks.
 I want to do this because when I upgrade my phone in a couple months I 
 feel like I will be behind the ape ball if I don't get familiar with the 
 current operating system etc.


 Fred Olver

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Changing song tags on i phone after sync?

2012-09-16 Thread Ramy Moustafa


HI all;

I have some songs on I phone I deleted them from I phone, will they sync
again, or what shall I do to remove them from syncing?
And I need to change some  tags on my songs, I will do this on my hard
drive, but how wil I sync these songs again?

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IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Avnish Chopra
48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!

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video conversions

2012-09-16 Thread Tom Rash
I haven't found a way to do this yet.  I have a lot of family videos converted 
from VHS to DVD.  I'd like to be able to copy the dvd onto my hard drive and 
name it appropriately so I could easily find the video using Apple TV with 
voice over.  
Currently when I make a video using my iPhone, I can copy the video to my hard 
drive, name it, and find it and show it using voice over on the Apple TV with 
home sharing on and using Itunes.  This is great.  
The iphone files are numbered until I give them an identifiable title.  Then I 
bring them up through Itunes using voice over on the Apple TV.  How can I 
convert these older videos so I can use them the same as my existing video 
library?  Thanks for any suggestions.  
BTW, I am still using Windows XP.

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Voiceover coming through the earpiece when headset is unplugged.

2012-09-16 Thread Shameless FanGirl
Good morning all,

Subject says it all. my ringtones and other apps which are sound-oriented 
Audible, radio apps, etc all behave as normal, Siri as well, but VO is being 
routed through the earpiece the second I unplug my headset. This is a newly 
replaced phone, and I'm positively perplexed.

Thoughts/suggestions?

TIA, as always

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Voiceover coming through the earpiece when headset is unplugged.

2012-09-16 Thread Kimber Gardner
Does this happen all the time? Do you ever hear VO through the iPhone speaker?

The only thing I can think of is to check the setting for routing
in-coming calls under accessibility. Make sure it's set to default.

Kimber

On 9/16/12, Shameless FanGirl shamelessfang...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good morning all,

 Subject says it all. my ringtones and other apps which are sound-oriented
 Audible, radio apps, etc all behave as normal, Siri as well, but VO is being
 routed through the earpiece the second I unplug my headset. This is a newly
 replaced phone, and I'm positively perplexed.

 Thoughts/suggestions?

 TIA, as always

 Sent from my iPhone

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New itunes

2012-09-16 Thread Fanus
Hello List
Are there any accessibility issues with the latest itunes 
and Jaws?
Regards
Fanus

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RE: youmail question

2012-09-16 Thread Regina Alvarado
What does this app do? Is it an email program?
Reggie
 

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Of Hope Paulos
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: youmail question

Hello all. Can someone please provide me with a link to the podcast of this
voicemail program?
Thanks!
Hope

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2012, at 11:11 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com
wrote:

 Rebecca,
 
 One of the cool feature I have found that is quite simple to use when you
 find yourself in the spot you are describing. What I do is just do a
triple
 fingers double tap. This will silence the Voice Over but not disable it.
 Thus allows you to double tap the record without Voice Over rudely
speaking
 when you don't want her to talk! ;)
 
 Once you are done. Just use the triple fingers double tap again to turn
the
 Voice Over voice back on.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 AppleVis Editorial Team
 www.AppleVis.com
 Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
 Zello: =AnonyMouse=
 
 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: youmail question
 
 Hi all.  I listened to the podcast on youmail and set up an account. 
 The trouble is that I can't seem to record a greeting without voiceover in
 the background saying start recording and stop recording. Any suggestions?
 Thanks.
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iTunes install error

2012-09-16 Thread Fanus
Hello List
Sorry for my previous message on accessibility of the latest 
iTunes but I did not see the message of a lister that he 
does not encounter any issues with Jaws. My problem is now 
that, when I try to install the latest version, I get the 
following error: The feature your trying to use is on a 
network resource which is not available. Click ok to try 
again or or enter a path to the folder which contains the 
install package iTunes.msi. Has anyone any idea what this 
means. The previous version is still working perfectly.
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RE: New itunes

2012-09-16 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Fanus,
It looks just like the last version as far as I've been able to tell so far.
It may be just a bit more responsive.

Jon
 

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Hello List
Are there any accessibility issues with the latest itunes and Jaws?
Regards
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RE: iTunes install error

2012-09-16 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Fanus,
This used to happen a lot under Windows-XP and was related to corrupt
Windows installer or install-Shield files.
If you download the iTunes installation package instead of updating from
within iTunes, you may be able to point to the .exe files or extract the
.msi file if the message comes up again.

Jon
 

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Subject: iTunes install error

Hello List
Sorry for my previous message on accessibility of the latest iTunes but I
did not see the message of a lister that he does not encounter any issues
with Jaws. My problem is now that, when I try to install the latest version,
I get the following error: The feature your trying to use is on a network
resource which is not available. Click ok to try again or or enter a path to
the folder which contains the install package iTunes.msi. Has anyone any
idea what this means. The previous version is still working perfectly.
Regards
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Re: video conversions

2012-09-16 Thread Scott Howell
Look at HandBrake, http://www.handbrake.fr. This is an excellent piece of 
software and should meet your needs nicely.

On Sep 16, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't found a way to do this yet.  I have a lot of family videos 
 converted from VHS to DVD.  I'd like to be able to copy the dvd onto my hard 
 drive and name it appropriately so I could easily find the video using Apple 
 TV with voice over. 
 Currently when I make a video using my iPhone, I can copy the video to my 
 hard drive, name it, and find it and show it using voice over on the Apple TV 
 with home sharing on and using Itunes.  This is great. 
 The iphone files are numbered until I give them an identifiable title.  Then 
 I bring them up through Itunes using voice over on the Apple TV.  How can I 
 convert these older videos so I can use them the same as my existing video 
 library?  Thanks for any suggestions. 
 BTW, I am still using Windows XP.
 
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Re: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-16 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
also, given the immensely short duration of time that Steve Jobs has been dead 
for, I am amazed that you can assert that Apple has slowed down already, and is 
less innovative.

It is highly likely that most things coming out of Apple at this time he was 
fully aware of and these products were well and truly into the pipe line.

I agree with the other poster, in ovation is always much quicker to occur when 
your at the beginning of a products revolutionary process. As it matures the 
natural speed of evolution slows.


On 15 Sep 2012, at 21:02, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote:

 If other  platforms are moving faster it is only because they are far behind.
 As for innovations slowing down; as any technology  matures change will  
 naturally slow down.
 It can not do otherwise.
 Everything moves faster when starting from zero.
 This is truly basic stuff and I wonder why people keep acting shocked when  
 they encounter it.
 
 At 03:18 PM 9/15/2012, you wrote:
 I think that's what I was getting at: Going from the 4S to the 5 is not
 going to be substantially different. There's a reason why I chose the
 iPhone, but I don't think it unfair to say that Apple appears to be
 innovating at a slower rate than when Jobs was in charge. That doesn't mean
 that Cook is not innovative or that the iPhone is falling way behind. All
 things considered though, I think other platforms are raising the bar at a
 faster rate. Since we're relying on one major OS upgrade a year, I'd like to
 see that upgrade pack a punch. Hardware-wise, I think they're doing what
 they need to do to keep pace. The camera is more dynamic even if it stayed
 at 8 MP. But, Do Not Disturb is nothing to be wowed by when other platforms
 were doing this already. I'm fine with them going rogue on maps, but why fix
 something that wasn't broken? The same is true of Youtube. Perhaps my
 greater complaint is that Apple is attempting to pit itself against Google
 when Google could in fact help iOS stay ahead of the curve. Anyway,
 regardless, I am glad that accessibility is still built into the core, and
 that is something that for me personally keeps the iPhone ahead of
 everything else.--Joe
 
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 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming
 
 Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what NFC is? LOL, just
 kidding. Every time I hear NFC, I don't think payment system. I think, No
 F.g Clue.
 
 Anyway, seriously though, I'm not going to belittle anyone who upgrades from
 the 4S to the 5 because after all, it's still moving up the chain of new
 devices. However for me personally, I can wait because with what I can get
 out of the 4S, I can't justify a new phone just yet. Now, if I was coming
 from the 3GS or the 4, then I would definitely be getting the 5.
 
 Cheers.
 
 
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 On 9/14/2012 2:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Well said, Allison. It seems that with every release of a new iPhone a
 certain group of people (and I don't necessarily mean just people on
 this list) complain and say it's disappointing etc. When the 4S came
 out it was the same, a lot of people were disappointed it wasn't
 called the iPhone 5 as if the name matters and so on. I actually think
 it would have been smart of Apple to just call it the new iPhone,
 after all, a MacBook Pro or an iMac doesn't have a model number.
 Compared to a 4S the iPhone 5 is maybe not quite as big an update as
 the 4S was from the 4, but of course for the many people who are on a
 4 or even 3GS it's huge and who says it has to be this incredible new
 innovation every year, it's not as if anybody's life and happiness
 depends on the fact that they buy a new iPhone every year; at least it
 shouldn't depend on that, if it does maybe you need to spend money on
 a shrink instead of a new iPhone. I heard a lot of disappointment that
 there is no NFC, but I think Apple may feel NFC it's just not the
 thing and they certainly don't adopt something if they don't believe
 in it or if they think the time isn't right.
 
 Regards,
 
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RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Daniel Miller
We'll all find out wednesday

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Subject: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!

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iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Avnish and others,

I haven't spend too much time on Google, but a quick search about iOS 6
accessibility did produce quite a few hits, here is one I read. Many of the
40 features we already heard about, but it's a nice comprehensive list and
while the author doesn't go into details, he does mention Voiceover
improvements as well as other accessibility improvements. I believe Kimber
recently asked about how she can make the alarm play a particular song,
well, item 35 in the list indicates that this will be an iOS 6 feature.

I also hope all you who preordered the iPhone 5 have not neglected to place
orders for your favourite BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar or Land Rover to take
advantage of Siri in-car integration, after all, you may have to wait quite
long to get just the colour you want! I'm just ticked off that this won't
work with my vintage Rolls Royce Silver Dawn *smile*.

Anyhow, here is the link to the article and below the actual list for those
who want just the basics:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/11/40-ios-6-features-youll-actually-car
e-about

There are over 200 new features in iOS 6, but you won’t care about every
change Apple made.
Apple highlights the top iOS 6 features, but there are many more iOS 6
features that Apple silently announced.
These “hidden” iOS 6 features are features you’ll actually use and care
about. Check out the 40 iOS 6 Features You’ll Actually Use:

1. FaceTime over 3G and 4G – Make FaceTime calls over cellular connections.
2. Facebook Integration – Share photos to Facebook from Photos app and Like
Apps.
3. Maps- New maps with traffic and 3D flyover mode.
4. Calls – Slide to answer a call or slide up to reply with a message 
remind you to call back later.
5. Passbook – Your digital wallet for loyalty cards, Amtrak, United, hotel
reservations and more.
6. Lost Mode – Send a phone number to whoever found your lost iPhone to get
a call.
7. Turn by Turn Directions – Voiceguided turn by turn directions with GPS on
the iPhone 4S.
8. Open Apps with Siri – Siri can now open apps with your voice.
9. VIP Inbox – Tell Mail who your important contacts are so you never miss
an email.
10. Siri - Check sports scores, movie times and make restaurant
reservations.
11. Instant Sharing to Facebook and Twitter – Notification Center lets you
share direct to Facebook and Twitter.
12. Better Sharing Menu – When Sharing, you’ll see a new icon driven sharing
menu.
13. Autocorrection for Every Keyboard – Support for autocorrect while using
external Bluetooth keyboards.
14. Location Based Reminders for iPad – The iPad will now support reminders
based on location, may be limited to cellular models.
15. Manual Location Entry for Reminders – No longer need GPS to set a
location reminder, type in an address.
16. VoiceOver Improvements – Better accessibility features from VoiceOver
for visually impaired users.
17. Personal Dictionary in the Cloud – sync personalized spellings and
autocorrections of names across iPhone and iPad.
18. Do Not Disturb - Set the iPhone to prevent calls and notifications from
waking you at night, but still allow special callers.
19. Per Account Signatures in Mail – One signature for work email, one for
personal.
20. Game Center Challenges – Brag about your high score and issue challenges
to friends.
21. Game Center Friends from Facebook – Pull your Facebook friends into
games.
22. Manual Reorder of Reminders – Change the order of reminders to match
your priorities.
23. Improved Privacy Controls – More granular control over your personal
data. Turn location control off by app.
24. Custom Vibrations for Alerts – Already available in iOS 5, expect new
features.
25. Features for China – Baidu, Sina Weibo, Tudou, Youku, Better text input,
dictionary.
26. Video stabilization : Stabilizes iPhone and iPad video, which are often
shaky.
27. Shared Photostreams- Make and share albums in PhotoStream. Easily share
the right photos with specific friends and family members in near real-time.
Also includes comments and notifications.
28. App in Safari Search Results – See app store search results in the
Safari search results.
29. Full Screen Landscape Support in Safari – See more of the web while
browsing in landscape on the iPhone.
30. Faster Safari Javascript – Improved Safari performance while browsing.
31. HDR Improvements – Better performance and results for HDR photo taking.
32. Made for iPhone Hearing Aids – Apple certified hearing aids that will
work specifically with the iPhone and iPad.
33. Improved Accessibility Controls – Lock settings and lock the home button
to keep kids out of settings they don’t need to touch.
34. French, German and Spanish Dictionaries – Multiple language dictionaries
now in iOS 6.
35. Alarm with Song – Wake up with your favorite music in iOS 6.
36. Redesigned Stores – Better looking mobile stores with CoverFlow.
37. In App Bluetooth Pairing – No longer need to leave the app to set up
your Bluetooth headphones.
38. Eyes Free – A new Siri button for Siri 

RE: New itunes

2012-09-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Fanus,

This iTunes 10.7 release is just a minor release which I assume was
necessary for the upcoming iOS 6 update. As John pointed out, it's pretty
much the same as before and I have noticed any differences regarding how it
works with Jaws. What I am more concerned about is the major iTunes update
which is coming in October as it will apparently have a completely new look
and feel. I just downloaded the Jaws 14 public Beta which by the way works
great and there is no mention about the new upcoming iTunes. Maybe Jonathan
has something to say about it if it's not some well-kept secret. Of course
Jaws 14 is not scheduled to be released until the end of October assuming
the public beta doesn't reveal any issues which delay this and I assume
iTunes will come out more in the first half of October. I guess we will have
to wait and see, I certainly won't upgrade to this new major update until I
know if it works well with Jaws.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Text.

2012-09-16 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com


I have always done my messages with Siri with either email or messages. How do 
I get a contact from my address book into the to field of a text or an email? I 
see when I start the number or email that it will show it in a list, but from 
there I have tried everything I can think of, and it won't change positions. 
Thanks in advance. Did this email as you explained Sieghard.. Interested to see 
if it will put in the subject for me. 





Reggie and Brooks

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RE: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Wow! Too bad Iphones 3gs like mine wn't get along with Ios6! So I guess I'll
just have to continue reading up on your experiences on some of these
features!

-Mensaje original-
De: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] En nombre de
Sieghard Weitzel
Enviado el: domingo, 16 de septiembre de 2012 10:40 a.m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over

Hello Avnish and others,

I haven't spend too much time on Google, but a quick search about iOS 6
accessibility did produce quite a few hits, here is one I read. Many of the
40 features we already heard about, but it's a nice comprehensive list and
while the author doesn't go into details, he does mention Voiceover
improvements as well as other accessibility improvements. I believe Kimber
recently asked about how she can make the alarm play a particular song,
well, item 35 in the list indicates that this will be an iOS 6 feature.

I also hope all you who preordered the iPhone 5 have not neglected to place
orders for your favourite BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar or Land Rover to take
advantage of Siri in-car integration, after all, you may have to wait quite
long to get just the colour you want! I'm just ticked off that this won't
work with my vintage Rolls Royce Silver Dawn *smile*.

Anyhow, here is the link to the article and below the actual list for those
who want just the basics:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/11/40-ios-6-features-youll-actually-car
e-about

There are over 200 new features in iOS 6, but you won’t care about every
change Apple made.
Apple highlights the top iOS 6 features, but there are many more iOS 6
features that Apple silently announced.
These “hidden” iOS 6 features are features you’ll actually use and care
about. Check out the 40 iOS 6 Features You’ll Actually Use:

1. FaceTime over 3G and 4G – Make FaceTime calls over cellular connections.
2. Facebook Integration – Share photos to Facebook from Photos app and Like
Apps.
3. Maps- New maps with traffic and 3D flyover mode.
4. Calls – Slide to answer a call or slide up to reply with a message 
remind you to call back later.
5. Passbook – Your digital wallet for loyalty cards, Amtrak, United, hotel
reservations and more.
6. Lost Mode – Send a phone number to whoever found your lost iPhone to get
a call.
7. Turn by Turn Directions – Voiceguided turn by turn directions with GPS on
the iPhone 4S.
8. Open Apps with Siri – Siri can now open apps with your voice.
9. VIP Inbox – Tell Mail who your important contacts are so you never miss
an email.
10. Siri - Check sports scores, movie times and make restaurant
reservations.
11. Instant Sharing to Facebook and Twitter – Notification Center lets you
share direct to Facebook and Twitter.
12. Better Sharing Menu – When Sharing, you’ll see a new icon driven sharing
menu.
13. Autocorrection for Every Keyboard – Support for autocorrect while using
external Bluetooth keyboards.
14. Location Based Reminders for iPad – The iPad will now support reminders
based on location, may be limited to cellular models.
15. Manual Location Entry for Reminders – No longer need GPS to set a
location reminder, type in an address.
16. VoiceOver Improvements – Better accessibility features from VoiceOver
for visually impaired users.
17. Personal Dictionary in the Cloud – sync personalized spellings and
autocorrections of names across iPhone and iPad.
18. Do Not Disturb - Set the iPhone to prevent calls and notifications from
waking you at night, but still allow special callers.
19. Per Account Signatures in Mail – One signature for work email, one for
personal.
20. Game Center Challenges – Brag about your high score and issue challenges
to friends.
21. Game Center Friends from Facebook – Pull your Facebook friends into
games.
22. Manual Reorder of Reminders – Change the order of reminders to match
your priorities.
23. Improved Privacy Controls – More granular control over your personal
data. Turn location control off by app.
24. Custom Vibrations for Alerts – Already available in iOS 5, expect new
features.
25. Features for China – Baidu, Sina Weibo, Tudou, Youku, Better text input,
dictionary.
26. Video stabilization : Stabilizes iPhone and iPad video, which are often
shaky.
27. Shared Photostreams- Make and share albums in PhotoStream. Easily share
the right photos with specific friends and family members in near real-time.
Also includes comments and notifications.
28. App in Safari Search Results – See app store search results in the
Safari search results.
29. Full Screen Landscape Support in Safari – See more of the web while
browsing in landscape on the iPhone.
30. Faster Safari Javascript – Improved Safari performance while browsing.
31. HDR Improvements – Better performance and results for HDR photo taking.
32. Made for iPhone Hearing Aids – Apple certified hearing aids that will
work specifically with the iPhone and iPad.
33. Improved Accessibility Controls – Lock settings and 

Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Amy Harris
Hi all,

 

I'm looking at buying an iphone 5 as well as a braille keyboard/display.  I
need the keyboard/display to be in one single unit, to connect using
bluetooth, to also work with my iPad 2, and to be very small/portable.  I've
been looking at the BraillePen 12 or the RefreshABraille 18, but I thought
I'd ask if there were any others in that size range that might be worth
looking at, and if there were any pros/cons to any of them.  Does the list
think that I should wait until IOS6 and/or the new iTunes come out before I
purchase a braille display?  Thanks for any quick thoughts on this subject.

 

Amy

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RE: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Miranda B.
Hi,

I haven't seen this myself, but I am very interested in the Focus 14 from
Freedom Scientific. From what I understand (someone please correct me if I'm
wrong), this has the features you've mentioned that you're looking for.

 

In Christ, Miranda

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Harris
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

 

Hi all,

 

I'm looking at buying an iphone 5 as well as a braille keyboard/display.  I
need the keyboard/display to be in one single unit, to connect using
bluetooth, to also work with my iPad 2, and to be very small/portable.  I've
been looking at the BraillePen 12 or the RefreshABraille 18, but I thought
I'd ask if there were any others in that size range that might be worth
looking at, and if there were any pros/cons to any of them.  Does the list
think that I should wait until IOS6 and/or the new iTunes come out before I
purchase a braille display?  Thanks for any quick thoughts on this subject.

 

Amy

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Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Stacey Robinson
Amy,
I have the Braillepen12 and it works great with my iPhone 4s.
It also works nicely with my husbands iPod touch.
It's very very portable and doesn't way much.

On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Amy Harris wrote:

 Hi all,
  
 I’m looking at buying an iphone 5 as well as a braille keyboard/display.  I 
 need the keyboard/display to be in one single unit, to connect using 
 bluetooth, to also work with my iPad 2, and to be very small/portable.  I’ve 
 been looking at the BraillePen 12 or the RefreshABraille 18, but I thought 
 I’d ask if there were any others in that size range that might be worth 
 looking at, and if there were any pros/cons to any of them.  Does the list 
 think that I should wait until IOS6 and/or the new iTunes come out before I 
 purchase a braille display?  Thanks for any quick thoughts on this subject.
  
 Amy
 
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RE: Deleting from within music app

2012-09-16 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Do you keep the swipe finger on the screen and tap with a second finger, or 
does the swipe finger come off the screen before the tap?

Thanks.

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Subject: Re: Deleting from within music app

Double tap, swipe to the right and tap with another finger at the end
of the swipe.
You're basically swiping to the right and touching with two fingers.

HTH
Andre



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 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kirsten Edmondson
 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Deleting from within music app

 Thanks, I'll try. It's funny, but I was wishing I could get Siri to do it
 too!

 Kirsten

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 15 Sep 2012, at 11:09, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Kirsten,
  It, (meaning your results) may vary from say, a 3GS to a 4S perhaps since
 it
  depends on pinpoint timing in my experience.
 
  On my 4S I double-tap--Hold, wait for the tri-tone and while it is still
  sounding I do a quick swipe to the right. This only works about 80% of the
  time and the timing of the last part of the gesture seems to be the key,
 it
  has to be almost frantic for lack of a better description. And this is
 one
  continuous gesture without a finger lift inbetween.
 
  Once I get my 3GS back from the person who borrowed it way too long ago
 I'll
  try the same thing with the slower processor and report my findings. It's
  not you but the gesture seems about as consistent as do the ones
 pertaining
  to the rotor. The rotor will cooperate 90% of the time and sometimes
  twisting it one direction works better than the other. But hey, 90's
 better
  than 80 so maybe the Apple gods are smiling down on us some days after
 all.
  Now if I could just talk Siri into doing that part . . .
 
  Jon
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Kirsten Edmondson
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:50 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Deleting from within music app
 
  I don't know what I'm doing wrong but can't get delete to come up when I
  double tap, hold and then swipe. There is a menu button which comes up at
  the end of the whole list of albums, but double tapping and holding
 doesn't
  do anything either!
  Any suggestions?
  Thanks
 
 
  Kirsten
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 

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1password, which one?

2012-09-16 Thread don bishop
I see there are two versions of 1password, the regular one and the pro 
one.  The pro will interface with ipad etc., and also the iphone.  I 
have only the iphone, and wondering if anyone knows of any features for 
the iphone that are in the pro version and not in the cheaper one.
Don't need to pay for interfaces I won't use if the actual content is 
the same.


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Re: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

iOS 6 will be available on the 3GS. Since there's no Siri on the 3GS, those 
features won't be there, but I would imagine most of the others will be.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 16, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Gerardo Corripio gera1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow! Too bad Iphones 3gs like mine wn't get along with Ios6! So I guess I'll
 just have to continue reading up on your experiences on some of these
 features!
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] En nombre de
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Enviado el: domingo, 16 de septiembre de 2012 10:40 a.m.
 Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Asunto: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over
 
 Hello Avnish and others,
 
 I haven't spend too much time on Google, but a quick search about iOS 6
 accessibility did produce quite a few hits, here is one I read. Many of the
 40 features we already heard about, but it's a nice comprehensive list and
 while the author doesn't go into details, he does mention Voiceover
 improvements as well as other accessibility improvements. I believe Kimber
 recently asked about how she can make the alarm play a particular song,
 well, item 35 in the list indicates that this will be an iOS 6 feature.
 
 I also hope all you who preordered the iPhone 5 have not neglected to place
 orders for your favourite BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar or Land Rover to take
 advantage of Siri in-car integration, after all, you may have to wait quite
 long to get just the colour you want! I'm just ticked off that this won't
 work with my vintage Rolls Royce Silver Dawn *smile*.
 
 Anyhow, here is the link to the article and below the actual list for those
 who want just the basics:
 http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/11/40-ios-6-features-youll-actually-car
 e-about
 
 There are over 200 new features in iOS 6, but you won’t care about every
 change Apple made.
 Apple highlights the top iOS 6 features, but there are many more iOS 6
 features that Apple silently announced.
 These “hidden” iOS 6 features are features you’ll actually use and care
 about. Check out the 40 iOS 6 Features You’ll Actually Use:
 
 1. FaceTime over 3G and 4G – Make FaceTime calls over cellular connections.
 2. Facebook Integration – Share photos to Facebook from Photos app and Like
 Apps.
 3. Maps- New maps with traffic and 3D flyover mode.
 4. Calls – Slide to answer a call or slide up to reply with a message 
 remind you to call back later.
 5. Passbook – Your digital wallet for loyalty cards, Amtrak, United, hotel
 reservations and more.
 6. Lost Mode – Send a phone number to whoever found your lost iPhone to get
 a call.
 7. Turn by Turn Directions – Voiceguided turn by turn directions with GPS on
 the iPhone 4S.
 8. Open Apps with Siri – Siri can now open apps with your voice.
 9. VIP Inbox – Tell Mail who your important contacts are so you never miss
 an email.
 10. Siri - Check sports scores, movie times and make restaurant
 reservations.
 11. Instant Sharing to Facebook and Twitter – Notification Center lets you
 share direct to Facebook and Twitter.
 12. Better Sharing Menu – When Sharing, you’ll see a new icon driven sharing
 menu.
 13. Autocorrection for Every Keyboard – Support for autocorrect while using
 external Bluetooth keyboards.
 14. Location Based Reminders for iPad – The iPad will now support reminders
 based on location, may be limited to cellular models.
 15. Manual Location Entry for Reminders – No longer need GPS to set a
 location reminder, type in an address.
 16. VoiceOver Improvements – Better accessibility features from VoiceOver
 for visually impaired users.
 17. Personal Dictionary in the Cloud – sync personalized spellings and
 autocorrections of names across iPhone and iPad.
 18. Do Not Disturb - Set the iPhone to prevent calls and notifications from
 waking you at night, but still allow special callers.
 19. Per Account Signatures in Mail – One signature for work email, one for
 personal.
 20. Game Center Challenges – Brag about your high score and issue challenges
 to friends.
 21. Game Center Friends from Facebook – Pull your Facebook friends into
 games.
 22. Manual Reorder of Reminders – Change the order of reminders to match
 your priorities.
 23. Improved Privacy Controls – More granular control over your personal
 data. Turn location control off by app.
 24. Custom Vibrations for Alerts – Already available in iOS 5, expect new
 features.
 25. Features for China – Baidu, Sina Weibo, Tudou, Youku, Better text input,
 dictionary.
 26. Video stabilization : Stabilizes iPhone and iPad video, which are often
 shaky.
 27. Shared Photostreams- Make and share albums in PhotoStream. Easily share
 the right photos with specific friends and family members in near real-time.
 Also includes comments and notifications.
 28. App in Safari Search Results – See app store search results in the
 Safari search results.
 29. Full Screen Landscape Support in Safari – See more of the web while
 browsing in landscape on 

Re: youmail question

2012-09-16 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
Thanks for answering my youmail question.  I'm in the new user wizard 
and it says congratulations thanks for using youmail on the i phone and 
then it says swipe to view next screen. I tried swiping to the right 
with 1 2 and 3 fingers, it doesn't move to the next screen also tried up 
and down and no movement to the next screen so i'm stuck in thi one screen.

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Re: Left side loud speaker

2012-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
There is only one speaker. The mic is on the left. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2012, at 5:34, Godwin Adoyi gad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 On my iPhone 4s with the latest ios built, no matter what settings I do, I 
 can’t get the left side loud speaker working.
 Is anyone having same problem? What’s the remedy?
 Thanks,
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 Cell Phone: +233244311697
 Skype: gadoyi
 
  
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Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Amy Harris
Thanks for the info! :-)  I've been looking at the BraillePen 12 and I 
hadn't heard about the HumanWare 14-cell display!  I'm going to add that to 
my list. *GRIN*  Below are the ones that I've been considering.  I'd 
appreciate any thoughts that anyone has on them.
 

RefreshABraille 18 (8-dot Braille display.)

BraillePen 12

VarioConnect 12-cell (Baum)

EasyLink 12 (Optelec)

HumanWare Focus 14 (Thanks to the list! *GRIN*)

 

Also, I grew up on 6-dot Braille.  For anyone that knows/has learned 8-dot 
Braille, is it a hard adaptation to make?

 

Thanks again!

Amy

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Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Another braille display which is small and you might like to consider is the 
Essys 12 or 24.  I have the 40 and apart from a couple of repairs, this braille 
display works well with the I phone.

Best regards,

Kawal.
On 16 Sep 2012, at 19:42, Amy Harris aharr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the info! :-)  I've been looking at the BraillePen 12 and I hadn't 
 heard about the HumanWare 14-cell display!  I'm going to add that to my list. 
 *GRIN*  Below are the ones that I've been considering.  I'd appreciate any 
 thoughts that anyone has on them.
  
 RefreshABraille 18 (8-dot Braille display.)
 BraillePen 12
 VarioConnect 12-cell (Baum)
 EasyLink 12 (Optelec)
 HumanWare Focus 14 (Thanks to the list! *GRIN*)
  
 Also, I grew up on 6-dot Braille.  For anyone that knows/has learned 8-dot 
 Braille, is it a hard adaptation to make?
  
 Thanks again!
 Amy
 
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Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
Just for clarification, the Focus 14 is made by Freedom Scientific;
not Humanware.

On 9/16/12, Amy Harris aharr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the info! :-)  I've been looking at the BraillePen 12 and I
 hadn't heard about the HumanWare 14-cell display!  I'm going to add that to

 my list. *GRIN*  Below are the ones that I've been considering.  I'd
 appreciate any thoughts that anyone has on them.


 RefreshABraille 18 (8-dot Braille display.)

 BraillePen 12

 VarioConnect 12-cell (Baum)

 EasyLink 12 (Optelec)

 HumanWare Focus 14 (Thanks to the list! *GRIN*)



 Also, I grew up on 6-dot Braille.  For anyone that knows/has learned 8-dot
 Braille, is it a hard adaptation to make?



 Thanks again!

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Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Amy Harris
Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal.  
I knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help.  You know, useful help. 
*GRIN*
 
I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves.  
That's not really what I need.  I need something more along the lines of 
being able to turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through 
braille while in a meeting.  Does that eliminate any of these devices?  I'd 
also love a display that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages, 
Notes, Mail, Reminders, my grocery list app, and so on.  Does such a thing 
even exist, or does it all have to be done through the particular braille 
display's software?
 
Amy

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Re: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

There are some things - maps for example that won't be fully
functional on the 3GS. I wonder if Google accessibility have scene
number 38?

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/16/12, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:
 Hi,

 iOS 6 will be available on the 3GS. Since there's no Siri on the 3GS, those
 features won't be there, but I would imagine most of the others will be.

 Best,
 Anna



 On Sep 16, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Gerardo Corripio gera1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Wow! Too bad Iphones 3gs like mine wn't get along with Ios6! So I guess
 I'll
 just have to continue reading up on your experiences on some of these
 features!

 -Mensaje original-
 De: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] En nombre
 de
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Enviado el: domingo, 16 de septiembre de 2012 10:40 a.m.
 Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Asunto: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice
 Over

 Hello Avnish and others,

 I haven't spend too much time on Google, but a quick search about iOS 6
 accessibility did produce quite a few hits, here is one I read. Many of
 the
 40 features we already heard about, but it's a nice comprehensive list
 and
 while the author doesn't go into details, he does mention Voiceover
 improvements as well as other accessibility improvements. I believe
 Kimber
 recently asked about how she can make the alarm play a particular song,
 well, item 35 in the list indicates that this will be an iOS 6 feature.

 I also hope all you who preordered the iPhone 5 have not neglected to
 place
 orders for your favourite BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar or Land Rover to take
 advantage of Siri in-car integration, after all, you may have to wait
 quite
 long to get just the colour you want! I'm just ticked off that this won't
 work with my vintage Rolls Royce Silver Dawn *smile*.

 Anyhow, here is the link to the article and below the actual list for
 those
 who want just the basics:
 http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/11/40-ios-6-features-youll-actually-car
 e-about

 There are over 200 new features in iOS 6, but you won’t care about every
 change Apple made.
 Apple highlights the top iOS 6 features, but there are many more iOS 6
 features that Apple silently announced.
 These “hidden” iOS 6 features are features you’ll actually use and care
 about. Check out the 40 iOS 6 Features You’ll Actually Use:

 1. FaceTime over 3G and 4G – Make FaceTime calls over cellular
 connections.
 2. Facebook Integration – Share photos to Facebook from Photos app and
 Like
 Apps.
 3. Maps- New maps with traffic and 3D flyover mode.
 4. Calls – Slide to answer a call or slide up to reply with a message 
 remind you to call back later.
 5. Passbook – Your digital wallet for loyalty cards, Amtrak, United,
 hotel
 reservations and more.
 6. Lost Mode – Send a phone number to whoever found your lost iPhone to
 get
 a call.
 7. Turn by Turn Directions – Voiceguided turn by turn directions with GPS
 on
 the iPhone 4S.
 8. Open Apps with Siri – Siri can now open apps with your voice.
 9. VIP Inbox – Tell Mail who your important contacts are so you never
 miss
 an email.
 10. Siri - Check sports scores, movie times and make restaurant
 reservations.
 11. Instant Sharing to Facebook and Twitter – Notification Center lets
 you
 share direct to Facebook and Twitter.
 12. Better Sharing Menu – When Sharing, you’ll see a new icon driven
 sharing
 menu.
 13. Autocorrection for Every Keyboard – Support for autocorrect while
 using
 external Bluetooth keyboards.
 14. Location Based Reminders for iPad – The iPad will now support
 reminders
 based on location, may be limited to cellular models.
 15. Manual Location Entry for Reminders – No longer need GPS to set a
 location reminder, type in an address.
 16. VoiceOver Improvements – Better accessibility features from VoiceOver
 for visually impaired users.
 17. Personal Dictionary in the Cloud – sync personalized spellings and
 autocorrections of names across iPhone and iPad.
 18. Do Not Disturb - Set the iPhone to prevent calls and notifications
 from
 waking you at night, but still allow special callers.
 19. Per Account Signatures in Mail – One signature for work email, one
 for
 personal.
 20. Game Center Challenges – Brag about your high score and issue
 challenges
 to friends.
 21. Game Center Friends from Facebook – Pull your Facebook friends into
 games.
 22. Manual Reorder of Reminders – Change the order of reminders to match
 your priorities.
 23. Improved Privacy Controls – More granular control over your personal
 data. Turn location control off by app.
 24. Custom Vibrations for Alerts – Already available in iOS 5, expect new
 features.
 25. Features for China – Baidu, Sina Weibo, Tudou, Youku, Better text
 input,
 dictionary.
 26. Video stabilization : Stabilizes iPhone and iPad video, which are
 often
 shaky.
 27. Shared Photostreams- Make and share albums in PhotoStream. Easily
 share
 the right photos with specific friends and family members in near
 

Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
You can use the Essys as a separate note taker if you want.  However when you 
use the I phone with the braille display, most functions ar done by 
manipulating the braille display I don't know why you can't use your list of 
applications through the display of your choice through your I phone.  As long 
as the display is connected via bluetooth to your I phone, all things will work 
on your I phone.  Does that help?

Kawal.
On 16 Sep 2012, at 20:05, Amy Harris aharr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal.  I 
 knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help.  You know, useful help. 
 *GRIN*
  
 I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves.  
 That's not really what I need.  I need something more along the lines of 
 being able to turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through 
 braille while in a meeting.  Does that eliminate any of these devices?  I'd 
 also love a display that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages, Notes, 
 Mail, Reminders, my grocery list app, and so on.  Does such a thing even 
 exist, or does it all have to be done through the particular braille 
 display's software?
  
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RE: Left side loud speaker

2012-09-16 Thread Godwin Adoyi
Dave,

Hmm, I see.

Thanks, 

Godwin 

 

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Subject: Re: Left side loud speaker

 

There is only one speaker. The mic is on the left. 

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On 17/09/2012, at 5:34, Godwin Adoyi gad...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

On my iPhone 4s with the latest ios built, no matter what settings I do, I
can't get the left side loud speaker working.

Is anyone having same problem? What's the remedy?

Thanks,

Godwin Adoyi
Cell Phone: +233244311697
Skype: gadoyi




 

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Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
There is also the EuroBraille 12 and 20 cell displays. They also have Braille 
keyboards. 

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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2012, at 5:37, Miranda B. knownofl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I haven’t seen this myself, but I am very interested in the Focus 14 from 
 Freedom Scientific. From what I understand (someone please correct me if I’m 
 wrong), this has the features you’ve mentioned that you’re looking for.
  
 In Christ, Miranda
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Amy Harris
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:31 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
  
 Hi all,
  
 I’m looking at buying an iphone 5 as well as a braille keyboard/display.  I 
 need the keyboard/display to be in one single unit, to connect using 
 bluetooth, to also work with my iPad 2, and to be very small/portable.  I’ve 
 been looking at the BraillePen 12 or the RefreshABraille 18, but I thought 
 I’d ask if there were any others in that size range that might be worth 
 looking at, and if there were any pros/cons to any of them.  Does the list 
 think that I should wait until IOS6 and/or the new iTunes come out before I 
 purchase a braille display?  Thanks for any quick thoughts on this subject.
  
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Re: youmail question

2012-09-16 Thread Chris

Try double tapping on the text.


Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 16/09/2012 19:03, Rebecca Ilniski wrote:

Thanks for answering my youmail question.  I'm in the new user wizard
and it says congratulations thanks for using youmail on the i phone and
then it says swipe to view next screen. I tried swiping to the right
with 1 2 and 3 fingers, it doesn't move to the next screen also tried up
and down and no movement to the next screen so i'm stuck in thi one screen.


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Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
All braille displays work similarly with the iPhone. It is the iOS software 
which controls everything. The braille display is for viewing and the keyboard 
is for typing. Controls are more basic than with a braille note taker.

I would be cautious about getting the HumanWare or vario displays. Connections 
can be more problematic do to the nature of the bluetooth driver stacks and 
controls in the HumanWare products.

I have an Alva BC640 and a RefreshaBraille. Both work well with my iPhone.

That said, I prefer the Refreshabraille because I can turn it on and off whilst 
my iPhone is unlocked and it connects and disconnects without difficulties. My 
Alva, on the other hand, requires that I lock my iPhone before I turn the Alva 
on. After the display is on, I unlock my iPhone and the Alva automatically 
connects. However, when I write in 8 dot computer braille, the Alva is easier 
because all 8 dots are in a row (40 cells gives more room for the keyboard). On 
the Refreshabraille, dots 7 and 8 are next to the spacebar, so harder to press 
dot 7 for capitalisation.

National Braille Press, NBP, in the US has a braille brochure with the computer 
braille code. They also use to sell a book training on computer braille. In 
computer braille, the letters are the same, numbers are dropped to the lower 
part of the 6 dot cell (1 is dot 2, 2 is dots 2 3, 3 is dots 2 5, Etc.), and 
there are unique symbols for each punctuation mark. Upper-case letters are the 
same as lower-case letters with dot 7 added. I write computer braille at the 
same speed that I write contracted braille.

For large files, I find my iPhone 4 does better in 8 dot mode rather than 
contracted braille mode. Also, in contracted braille mode, iOS has a half 
second buffer. If you stop writing for half a second, whatever is in the buffer 
is translated and written to the field. Braille entry works whenever the 
keyboard is activated. Also, almost everything VO speaks is simultaneously 
displayed in braille. I regularly take notes in braille during meetings with 
speech muted.


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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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On 17/09/2012, at 7:05, Amy Harris aharr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal.  I 
 knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help.  You know, useful help. 
 *GRIN*
  
 I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves.  
 That's not really what I need.  I need something more along the lines of 
 being able to turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through 
 braille while in a meeting.  Does that eliminate any of these devices?  I'd 
 also love a display that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages, Notes, 
 Mail, Reminders, my grocery list app, and so on.  Does such a thing even 
 exist, or does it all have to be done through the particular braille 
 display's software?
  
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RE: Left side loud speaker

2012-09-16 Thread Frank Ventura
Isn't that a microphone, not a loudspeaker?
Frank

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Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:35 PM
To: Viphone Group
Subject: Left side loud speaker

Hello,
On my iPhone 4s with the latest ios built, no matter what settings I do, I 
can't get the left side loud speaker working.
Is anyone having same problem? What's the remedy?
Thanks,
Godwin Adoyi
Cell Phone: +233244311697
Skype: gadoyi

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Re: youmail question

2012-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
I do not have the app. At a guess, I would try doing the doubre-tap and hold 
pass through gesture, then, keeping the finger on the screen after the triple 
ascending tone sound, swipe the finger to the right before lifting it from the 
screen. This tells the iPhone to pass the right swipe gesture directly to the 
app rather than controlling VoiceOver.

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 Thanks for answering my youmail question.  I'm in the new user wizard and it 
 says congratulations thanks for using youmail on the i phone and then it says 
 swipe to view next screen. I tried swiping to the right with 1 2 and 3 
 fingers, it doesn't move to the next screen also tried up and down and no 
 movement to the next screen so i'm stuck in thi one screen.
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 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski
 
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Iphone 5 cases

2012-09-16 Thread Frank Ventura
Hi all I was wondering if anyone has seen any IPhone 5 cases on the market? Not 
looking to go cheapo but rather quality. Definitely something with a belt clip. 
Don't want to go leather this time, maybe something more high tech like carbon 
fibre. Any suggestions?
Frank


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Re: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-16 Thread James Mannion
I agree with what was said that change will slow down as a technology
matures. Also I think you have to really logicly think to yourself,
what is the reality compared to specifically what you thought it coud
have or should have been. If it is just a perception with no logic
behind it, then you really need to question if it is grounded in
anything. Then there is also the factor, there is only so much change
at one time that there is any chance of getting right. If you are
trying to push too many changes at once, there may be no time and
resources to make sure they are done correctly. There is already the
concern of this being a .0 version and how much of a mess it will be
with bugs and things not being worked out to work correctly. I hope
they tested things well. I think though if you ask yourself what the
picture was you had in mind and how that compares with reality and you
don't know, but just on some superficial level you just don't think
you are excited enough about what is new, try grounding it in some
real logical reasoning.

On 9/15/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote:
 also, given the immensely short duration of time that Steve Jobs has been
 dead for, I am amazed that you can assert that Apple has slowed down
 already, and is less innovative.

 It is highly likely that most things coming out of Apple at this time he was
 fully aware of and these products were well and truly into the pipe line.

 I agree with the other poster, in ovation is always much quicker to occur
 when your at the beginning of a products revolutionary process. As it
 matures the natural speed of evolution slows.


 On 15 Sep 2012, at 21:02, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote:

 If other  platforms are moving faster it is only because they are far
 behind.
 As for innovations slowing down; as any technology  matures change will
 naturally slow down.
 It can not do otherwise.
 Everything moves faster when starting from zero.
 This is truly basic stuff and I wonder why people keep acting shocked when
  they encounter it.

 At 03:18 PM 9/15/2012, you wrote:
 I think that's what I was getting at: Going from the 4S to the 5 is not
 going to be substantially different. There's a reason why I chose the
 iPhone, but I don't think it unfair to say that Apple appears to be
 innovating at a slower rate than when Jobs was in charge. That doesn't
 mean
 that Cook is not innovative or that the iPhone is falling way behind.
 All
 things considered though, I think other platforms are raising the bar at
 a
 faster rate. Since we're relying on one major OS upgrade a year, I'd like
 to
 see that upgrade pack a punch. Hardware-wise, I think they're doing what
 they need to do to keep pace. The camera is more dynamic even if it
 stayed
 at 8 MP. But, Do Not Disturb is nothing to be wowed by when other
 platforms
 were doing this already. I'm fine with them going rogue on maps, but why
 fix
 something that wasn't broken? The same is true of Youtube. Perhaps my
 greater complaint is that Apple is attempting to pit itself against
 Google
 when Google could in fact help iOS stay ahead of the curve. Anyway,
 regardless, I am glad that accessibility is still built into the core,
 and
 that is something that for me personally keeps the iPhone ahead of
 everything else.--Joe

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming

 Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what NFC is? LOL,
 just
 kidding. Every time I hear NFC, I don't think payment system. I think,
 No
 F.g Clue.

 Anyway, seriously though, I'm not going to belittle anyone who upgrades
 from
 the 4S to the 5 because after all, it's still moving up the chain of new
 devices. However for me personally, I can wait because with what I can
 get
 out of the 4S, I can't justify a new phone just yet. Now, if I was
 coming
 from the 3GS or the 4, then I would definitely be getting the 5.

 Cheers.


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 and
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 On 9/14/2012 2:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Well said, Allison. It seems that with every release of a new iPhone a
 certain group of people (and I don't necessarily mean just people on
 this list) complain and say it's disappointing etc. When the 4S came
 out it was the same, a lot of people were disappointed it wasn't
 called the iPhone 5 as if the name matters and so on. I actually think
 it would have been smart of Apple to just call it the new iPhone,
 after all, a MacBook Pro or an iMac doesn't have a model number.
 Compared to a 4S the iPhone 5 is maybe not quite as big an update as
 the 4S was from the 4, but of course 

RE: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Richard Turner
I recently had a chance to use a Braille Pen 12 and compare it to several
others.
If you narrow your list down to the RefreshaBraille or the Braille Pen, go
with the Refreshabraille.  The key responsiveness is much better with the
Refreshabraille, and even though it offers 18 cells, it is actually slightly
smaller than the Braille Pen 12.
I have not seen the Focus 14 from Freedom Scientific yet.  I'm hoping to get
some time with one as soon as the dealer nearby gets one in, which should be
within two weeks.
 
I wasn't clear if you knew this, but all braille displays have 8 dots.
 
David gave a good explanation and a good resource for learning computer
braille in his message so I won't repeat all that.
 
HTH,
Richard
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Harris
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone


Thanks for the info! :-)  I've been looking at the BraillePen 12 and I
hadn't heard about the HumanWare 14-cell display!  I'm going to add that to
my list. *GRIN*  Below are the ones that I've been considering.  I'd
appreciate any thoughts that anyone has on them.
 

RefreshABraille 18 (8-dot Braille display.)

BraillePen 12

VarioConnect 12-cell (Baum)

EasyLink 12 (Optelec)

HumanWare Focus 14 (Thanks to the list! *GRIN*)

 

Also, I grew up on 6-dot Braille.  For anyone that knows/has learned 8-dot
Braille, is it a hard adaptation to make?

 

Thanks again!

Amy

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RE: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-16 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Hi:
One other thing which should be considered is the advantages we have as
visually impaired people with the Iphone. Compared to other options out
their it provides us with the best options for accessibility. Yes there is
still room for improvement but comparatively speaking it's the best.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Mannion
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming

I agree with what was said that change will slow down as a technology
matures. Also I think you have to really logicly think to yourself,
what is the reality compared to specifically what you thought it coud
have or should have been. If it is just a perception with no logic
behind it, then you really need to question if it is grounded in
anything. Then there is also the factor, there is only so much change
at one time that there is any chance of getting right. If you are
trying to push too many changes at once, there may be no time and
resources to make sure they are done correctly. There is already the
concern of this being a .0 version and how much of a mess it will be
with bugs and things not being worked out to work correctly. I hope
they tested things well. I think though if you ask yourself what the
picture was you had in mind and how that compares with reality and you
don't know, but just on some superficial level you just don't think
you are excited enough about what is new, try grounding it in some
real logical reasoning.

On 9/15/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote:
 also, given the immensely short duration of time that Steve Jobs has been
 dead for, I am amazed that you can assert that Apple has slowed down
 already, and is less innovative.

 It is highly likely that most things coming out of Apple at this time he
was
 fully aware of and these products were well and truly into the pipe line.

 I agree with the other poster, in ovation is always much quicker to occur
 when your at the beginning of a products revolutionary process. As it
 matures the natural speed of evolution slows.


 On 15 Sep 2012, at 21:02, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote:

 If other  platforms are moving faster it is only because they are far
 behind.
 As for innovations slowing down; as any technology  matures change will
 naturally slow down.
 It can not do otherwise.
 Everything moves faster when starting from zero.
 This is truly basic stuff and I wonder why people keep acting shocked
when
  they encounter it.

 At 03:18 PM 9/15/2012, you wrote:
 I think that's what I was getting at: Going from the 4S to the 5 is not
 going to be substantially different. There's a reason why I chose the
 iPhone, but I don't think it unfair to say that Apple appears to be
 innovating at a slower rate than when Jobs was in charge. That doesn't
 mean
 that Cook is not innovative or that the iPhone is falling way behind.
 All
 things considered though, I think other platforms are raising the bar at
 a
 faster rate. Since we're relying on one major OS upgrade a year, I'd
like
 to
 see that upgrade pack a punch. Hardware-wise, I think they're doing what
 they need to do to keep pace. The camera is more dynamic even if it
 stayed
 at 8 MP. But, Do Not Disturb is nothing to be wowed by when other
 platforms
 were doing this already. I'm fine with them going rogue on maps, but why
 fix
 something that wasn't broken? The same is true of Youtube. Perhaps my
 greater complaint is that Apple is attempting to pit itself against
 Google
 when Google could in fact help iOS stay ahead of the curve. Anyway,
 regardless, I am glad that accessibility is still built into the core,
 and
 that is something that for me personally keeps the iPhone ahead of
 everything else.--Joe

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming

 Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what NFC is? LOL,
 just
 kidding. Every time I hear NFC, I don't think payment system. I think,
 No
 F.g Clue.

 Anyway, seriously though, I'm not going to belittle anyone who upgrades
 from
 the 4S to the 5 because after all, it's still moving up the chain of new
 devices. However for me personally, I can wait because with what I can
 get
 out of the 4S, I can't justify a new phone just yet. Now, if I was
 coming
 from the 3GS or the 4, then I would definitely be getting the 5.

 Cheers.


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 On 9/14/2012 2:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Well said, Allison. It seems that with every release of a new iPhone a
 

Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Scott Howell
David,

Do you tend to use contracted more than uncontracted Braille? Also I think I'm 
going to get one of those booklets that will help me remember how to make an 
at @ symbol etc.  I never used computer Braille. In fact until a year ago or 
so I had not used Braille since I was in school which was a good while ago. :)
I'm really looking to use my RefreshaBraille for more than just reading. :)

On Sep 16, 2012, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 All braille displays work similarly with the iPhone. It is the iOS software 
 which controls everything. The braille display is for viewing and the 
 keyboard is for typing. Controls are more basic than with a braille note 
 taker.
 
 I would be cautious about getting the HumanWare or vario displays. 
 Connections can be more problematic do to the nature of the bluetooth driver 
 stacks and controls in the HumanWare products.
 
 I have an Alva BC640 and a RefreshaBraille. Both work well with my iPhone.
 
 That said, I prefer the Refreshabraille because I can turn it on and off 
 whilst my iPhone is unlocked and it connects and disconnects without 
 difficulties. My Alva, on the other hand, requires that I lock my iPhone 
 before I turn the Alva on. After the display is on, I unlock my iPhone and 
 the Alva automatically connects. However, when I write in 8 dot computer 
 braille, the Alva is easier because all 8 dots are in a row (40 cells gives 
 more room for the keyboard). On the Refreshabraille, dots 7 and 8 are next to 
 the spacebar, so harder to press dot 7 for capitalisation.
 
 National Braille Press, NBP, in the US has a braille brochure with the 
 computer braille code. They also use to sell a book training on computer 
 braille. In computer braille, the letters are the same, numbers are dropped 
 to the lower part of the 6 dot cell (1 is dot 2, 2 is dots 2 3, 3 is dots 2 
 5, Etc.), and there are unique symbols for each punctuation mark. Upper-case 
 letters are the same as lower-case letters with dot 7 added. I write computer 
 braille at the same speed that I write contracted braille.
 
 For large files, I find my iPhone 4 does better in 8 dot mode rather than 
 contracted braille mode. Also, in contracted braille mode, iOS has a half 
 second buffer. If you stop writing for half a second, whatever is in the 
 buffer is translated and written to the field. Braille entry works whenever 
 the keyboard is activated. Also, almost everything VO speaks is 
 simultaneously displayed in braille. I regularly take notes in braille during 
 meetings with speech muted.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17/09/2012, at 7:05, Amy Harris aharr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal.  
 I knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help.  You know, useful help. 
 *GRIN*
  
 I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves.  
 That's not really what I need.  I need something more along the lines of 
 being able to turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through 
 braille while in a meeting.  Does that eliminate any of these devices?  I'd 
 also love a display that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages, 
 Notes, Mail, Reminders, my grocery list app, and so on.  Does such a thing 
 even exist, or does it all have to be done through the particular braille 
 display's software?
  
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Re: 1password, which one?

2012-09-16 Thread Scott Howell
Don,

You may not necessarily need the Pro version today, but honestly for not much 
more money I'd suggest you get the Pro. You never know in the future if you may 
decide to get an iPad. Just my suggestion.

On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:48 PM, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote:

 I see there are two versions of 1password, the regular one and the pro one.  
 The pro will interface with ipad etc., and also the iphone.  I have only the 
 iphone, and wondering if anyone knows of any features for the iphone that are 
 in the pro version and not in the cheaper one.
 Don't need to pay for interfaces I won't use if the actual content is the 
 same.
 
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RE: Iphone 5 cases

2012-09-16 Thread Scott Van Gorp
Hi Frank:

Otterbox has some available for preorder.  Try www.otterbox.com
http://www.otterbox.com/ 

 

Cordially:

 

Scott Van Gorp  

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Subject: Iphone 5 cases

 

Hi all I was wondering if anyone has seen any IPhone 5 cases on the market?
Not looking to go cheapo but rather quality. Definitely something with a
belt clip. Don't want to go leather this time, maybe something more high
tech like carbon fibre. Any suggestions?

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Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless

2012-09-16 Thread Grant Hardy
Lol. You should definitely take my question with a grain of sault. I'm
not an ATT customer, in fact I live in Canada. This was just
something I came across on the internet and was curious to find out
whether it's true.

Cheers, Grant

On 9/16/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Grant,

 I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I found
 that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to check into
 this and ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers as they would
 those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks.

 On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited
 customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I
 mistaken?

 Cheers,

 Grant

 On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark,

 I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data
 plan.
 However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed
 3Gb,
 ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely
 unreasonable.
 Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to
 arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If
 ATT
 pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless
 you
 have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell.
 In
 fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with
 unlimited
 data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got
 pinged for this not long ago.

 On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T  T Wireless.  In
 fact,
 I preordered my iPhone 4.

 However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T  T
 Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the
 order
 before its completion.

 I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that
 one
 needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite
 right.


 As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online
 preorder process was a wise decision.

 Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T
 
 T
 Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S
 preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not
 include unlimited data.

 Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so
 but
 I
 can tell you that A T  T Wireless would love to remove all of those
 remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to
 accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese
 that
 one will simply agree without reading it.

 In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go
 into
 an A T  T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my
 current
 device, and place it in the new device to insure that nothing funky
 happens
 with my data plan.

 Good Luck To All,

 Mark

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RE: braille reference, was Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Scott, Amy and others,
If you want a quick, easy way to look up braille codes you can't remember,
there is an app, made by someone I know, called Braille Reference, and is
$0.99 in the app store.
Under the computer braille section, if you select to search by name, it will
show you an alphabetical list of contractions.  The At sign is the fourth
one in the list.  He says dots 7 and 4, which is correct.  However, you
can get this if you are using contracted braille by doing space bar plus u
for upper case and then just a dot 4.
 
He plans an update with visual images for the braille cells in the near
future and there are a couple of search things he needs to clean up, but it
is a handy tool for a lot of my braille students.
 
HTH,
Richard
 
 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone


David, 

Do you tend to use contracted more than uncontracted Braille? Also I think
I'm going to get one of those booklets that will help me remember how to
make an at @ symbol etc.  I never used computer Braille. In fact until a
year ago or so I had not used Braille since I was in school which was a good
while ago. :)
I'm really looking to use my RefreshaBraille for more than just reading. :)

On Sep 16, 2012, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:


All braille displays work similarly with the iPhone. It is the iOS software
which controls everything. The braille display is for viewing and the
keyboard is for typing. Controls are more basic than with a braille note
taker.

I would be cautious about getting the HumanWare or vario displays.
Connections can be more problematic do to the nature of the bluetooth driver
stacks and controls in the HumanWare products.

I have an Alva BC640 and a RefreshaBraille. Both work well with my iPhone.

That said, I prefer the Refreshabraille because I can turn it on and off
whilst my iPhone is unlocked and it connects and disconnects without
difficulties. My Alva, on the other hand, requires that I lock my iPhone
before I turn the Alva on. After the display is on, I unlock my iPhone and
the Alva automatically connects. However, when I write in 8 dot computer
braille, the Alva is easier because all 8 dots are in a row (40 cells gives
more room for the keyboard). On the Refreshabraille, dots 7 and 8 are next
to the spacebar, so harder to press dot 7 for capitalisation.

National Braille Press, NBP, in the US has a braille brochure with the
computer braille code. They also use to sell a book training on computer
braille. In computer braille, the letters are the same, numbers are dropped
to the lower part of the 6 dot cell (1 is dot 2, 2 is dots 2 3, 3 is dots 2
5, Etc.), and there are unique symbols for each punctuation mark. Upper-case
letters are the same as lower-case letters with dot 7 added. I write
computer braille at the same speed that I write contracted braille.

For large files, I find my iPhone 4 does better in 8 dot mode rather than
contracted braille mode. Also, in contracted braille mode, iOS has a half
second buffer. If you stop writing for half a second, whatever is in the
buffer is translated and written to the field. Braille entry works whenever
the keyboard is activated. Also, almost everything VO speaks is
simultaneously displayed in braille. I regularly take notes in braille
during meetings with speech muted.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2012, at 7:05, Amy Harris aharr...@gmail.com wrote:



Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal.
I knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help.  You know, useful help.
*GRIN*
 
I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves.
That's not really what I need.  I need something more along the lines of
being able to turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through
braille while in a meeting.  Does that eliminate any of these devices?  I'd
also love a display that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages,
Notes, Mail, Reminders, my grocery list app, and so on.  Does such a thing
even exist, or does it all have to be done through the particular braille
display's software?
 
Amy

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RE: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless

2012-09-16 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

They're going to, after 5GB/

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T  T Wireless

Lol. You should definitely take my question with a grain of sault. I'm not
an ATT customer, in fact I live in Canada. This was just something I came
across on the internet and was curious to find out whether it's true.

Cheers, Grant

On 9/16/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Grant,

 I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I 
 found that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to 
 check into this and ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers 
 as they would those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks.

 On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited 
 customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I 
 mistaken?

 Cheers,

 Grant

 On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark,

 I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data 
 plan.
 However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you 
 exceed 3Gb, ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is 
 completely unreasonable.
 Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the 
 doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the 
 contract. If ATT pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over 
 the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on the 
 horn to the FCC and raise hell.
 In
 fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with 
 unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon 
 Wireless got pinged for this not long ago.

 On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T  T Wireless.  
 In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4.

 However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T  
 T Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to 
 cancel the order before its completion.

 I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement 
 that one needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't 
 sound quite right.


 As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the 
 online preorder process was a wise decision.

 Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that 
 A T  T Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online 
 iPhone 4 S preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to 
 one that did not include unlimited data.

 Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done 
 so but I can tell you that A T  T Wireless would love to remove 
 all of those remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn 
 near anything to accomplish this including lacing there agreement 
 with so much legalese that one will simply agree without reading 
 it.

 In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will 
 go into an A T  T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card 
 from my current device, and place it in the new device to insure 
 that nothing funky happens with my data plan.

 Good Luck To All,

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Re: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Kliphton
I have been using IOS6 since thursday, and I am loving some of the new 
features.  For example.  Instead of opening up a message in mail, or going to 
the edit button at the top, you can just flick down and the delete button is 
right there.  Also, those of you who like using multiple email accounts, can 
use multiple signitures with them now.  It also has a VIP mailbox, for those 
important people's mail you do not want to miss.  iMessage is snappier, and 
there is also a do not disturb feature you can set for when you don't want your 
phone to ring, unless they are in your favorites list.  Jailbreaking had 
already provided me with this feature, but apple took it one step further.  
Blue tooth, is now right after wi fi, so you don't have to dig for it.  I love 
the passbook app, and the turn by turn directions that the map gives you, you 
can even enable speach at certain volumes.  That's all for now, just a little 
taste for you before wednsday.
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On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hello Avnish and others,
 
 I haven't spend too much time on Google, but a quick search about iOS 6
 accessibility did produce quite a few hits, here is one I read. Many of the
 40 features we already heard about, but it's a nice comprehensive list and
 while the author doesn't go into details, he does mention Voiceover
 improvements as well as other accessibility improvements. I believe Kimber
 recently asked about how she can make the alarm play a particular song,
 well, item 35 in the list indicates that this will be an iOS 6 feature.
 
 I also hope all you who preordered the iPhone 5 have not neglected to place
 orders for your favourite BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar or Land Rover to take
 advantage of Siri in-car integration, after all, you may have to wait quite
 long to get just the colour you want! I'm just ticked off that this won't
 work with my vintage Rolls Royce Silver Dawn *smile*.
 
 Anyhow, here is the link to the article and below the actual list for those
 who want just the basics:
 http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/11/40-ios-6-features-youll-actually-car
 e-about
 
 There are over 200 new features in iOS 6, but you won’t care about every
 change Apple made.
 Apple highlights the top iOS 6 features, but there are many more iOS 6
 features that Apple silently announced.
 These “hidden” iOS 6 features are features you’ll actually use and care
 about. Check out the 40 iOS 6 Features You’ll Actually Use:
 
 1. FaceTime over 3G and 4G – Make FaceTime calls over cellular connections.
 2. Facebook Integration – Share photos to Facebook from Photos app and Like
 Apps.
 3. Maps- New maps with traffic and 3D flyover mode.
 4. Calls – Slide to answer a call or slide up to reply with a message 
 remind you to call back later.
 5. Passbook – Your digital wallet for loyalty cards, Amtrak, United, hotel
 reservations and more.
 6. Lost Mode – Send a phone number to whoever found your lost iPhone to get
 a call.
 7. Turn by Turn Directions – Voiceguided turn by turn directions with GPS on
 the iPhone 4S.
 8. Open Apps with Siri – Siri can now open apps with your voice.
 9. VIP Inbox – Tell Mail who your important contacts are so you never miss
 an email.
 10. Siri - Check sports scores, movie times and make restaurant
 reservations.
 11. Instant Sharing to Facebook and Twitter – Notification Center lets you
 share direct to Facebook and Twitter.
 12. Better Sharing Menu – When Sharing, you’ll see a new icon driven sharing
 menu.
 13. Autocorrection for Every Keyboard – Support for autocorrect while using
 external Bluetooth keyboards.
 14. Location Based Reminders for iPad – The iPad will now support reminders
 based on location, may be limited to cellular models.
 15. Manual Location Entry for Reminders – No longer need GPS to set a
 location reminder, type in an address.
 16. VoiceOver Improvements – Better accessibility features from VoiceOver
 for visually impaired users.
 17. Personal Dictionary in the Cloud – sync personalized spellings and
 autocorrections of names across iPhone and iPad.
 18. Do Not Disturb - Set the iPhone to prevent calls and notifications from
 waking you at night, but still allow special callers.
 19. Per Account Signatures in Mail – One signature for work email, one for
 personal.
 20. Game Center Challenges – Brag about your high score and issue challenges
 to friends.
 21. Game Center Friends from Facebook – Pull your Facebook friends into
 games.
 22. Manual Reorder of Reminders – Change the order of reminders to match
 your priorities.
 23. Improved Privacy Controls – More granular control over your personal
 data. Turn location control off by app.
 24. Custom Vibrations for Alerts – Already available in iOS 5, expect new
 features.
 25. Features for China – 

Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Kliphton
I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in 
iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not 
disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:

 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!
 
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RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Hope Paulos
There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is
inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm hesitant
to upgrade is this is the case.
Thanks.

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I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in
iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not
disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
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RE: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread CD
What is the passbook App?  I mean what does it do?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice
Over

I have been using IOS6 since thursday, and I am loving some of the new
features.  For example.  Instead of opening up a message in mail, or going
to the edit button at the top, you can just flick down and the delete button
is right there.  Also, those of you who like using multiple email accounts,
can use multiple signitures with them now.  It also has a VIP mailbox, for
those important people's mail you do not want to miss.  iMessage is
snappier, and there is also a do not disturb feature you can set for when
you don't want your phone to ring, unless they are in your favorites list.
Jailbreaking had already provided me with this feature, but apple took it
one step further.  Blue tooth, is now right after wi fi, so you don't have
to dig for it.  I love the passbook app, and the turn by turn directions
that the map gives you, you can even enable speach at certain volumes.
That's all for now, just a little taste for you before wednsday.
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On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hello Avnish and others,
 
 I haven't spend too much time on Google, but a quick search about iOS 
 6 accessibility did produce quite a few hits, here is one I read. 
 Many of the
 40 features we already heard about, but it's a nice comprehensive list 
 and while the author doesn't go into details, he does mention 
 Voiceover improvements as well as other accessibility improvements. 
 I believe Kimber recently asked about how she can make the alarm play 
 a particular song, well, item 35 in the list indicates that this will be
an iOS 6 feature.
 
 I also hope all you who preordered the iPhone 5 have not neglected to 
 place orders for your favourite BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar or Land Rover to 
 take advantage of Siri in-car integration, after all, you may have to 
 wait quite long to get just the colour you want! I'm just ticked off 
 that this won't work with my vintage Rolls Royce Silver Dawn *smile*.
 
 Anyhow, here is the link to the article and below the actual list for 
 those who want just the basics:
 http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/11/40-ios-6-features-youll-actual
 ly-car
 e-about
 
 There are over 200 new features in iOS 6, but you won't care about 
 every change Apple made.
 Apple highlights the top iOS 6 features, but there are many more iOS 6 
 features that Apple silently announced.
 These hidden iOS 6 features are features you'll actually use and 
 care about. Check out the 40 iOS 6 Features You'll Actually Use:
 
 1. FaceTime over 3G and 4G - Make FaceTime calls over cellular
connections.
 2. Facebook Integration - Share photos to Facebook from Photos app and 
 Like Apps.
 3. Maps- New maps with traffic and 3D flyover mode.
 4. Calls - Slide to answer a call or slide up to reply with a message 
  remind you to call back later.
 5. Passbook - Your digital wallet for loyalty cards, Amtrak, United, 
 hotel reservations and more.
 6. Lost Mode - Send a phone number to whoever found your lost iPhone 
 to get a call.
 7. Turn by Turn Directions - Voiceguided turn by turn directions with 
 GPS on the iPhone 4S.
 8. Open Apps with Siri - Siri can now open apps with your voice.
 9. VIP Inbox - Tell Mail who your important contacts are so you never 
 miss an email.
 10. Siri - Check sports scores, movie times and make restaurant 
 reservations.
 11. Instant Sharing to Facebook and Twitter - Notification Center lets 
 you share direct to Facebook and Twitter.
 12. Better Sharing Menu - When Sharing, you'll see a new icon driven 
 sharing menu.
 13. Autocorrection for Every Keyboard - Support for autocorrect while 
 using external Bluetooth keyboards.
 14. Location Based Reminders for iPad - The iPad will now support 
 reminders based on location, may be limited to cellular models.
 15. Manual Location Entry for Reminders - No longer need GPS to set a 
 location reminder, type in an address.
 16. VoiceOver Improvements - Better accessibility features from 
 VoiceOver for visually impaired users.
 17. Personal Dictionary in the Cloud - sync personalized spellings and 
 autocorrections of names across iPhone and iPad.
 18. Do Not Disturb - Set the iPhone to prevent calls and notifications 
 from waking you at night, but still allow special callers.
 19. Per Account Signatures in Mail - One signature for work email, one 
 for personal.
 20. Game Center Challenges - Brag about your high score and issue 
 challenges to friends.
 21. Game Center Friends from Facebook - Pull your Facebook 

Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Kliphton
It's accessible, but not as much as on ios5, your not able to update apps with 
out sited help.  The way I have worked around this, is I update them in iTunes, 
and then sink my phone.  The other thing is, when you attempt to install an 
app, it doesn't ask you for your password to your apple ID, this is a little 
shaky to me, maybe they will correct it by Wednesday.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:

 There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is
 inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm hesitant
 to upgrade is this is the case.
 Thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kliphton
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
 
 I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in
 iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not
 disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!
 
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RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Kevin W.
From what I have read, this is a feature.  If you have already purchased the
app, there is no reason to log in when your ID is simply accessing a copy to
which it is already authorized.   
 
K. W.

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Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

It's accessible, but not as much as on ios5, your not able to update apps
with out sited help.  The way I have worked around this, is I update them in
iTunes, and then sink my phone.  The other thing is, when you attempt to
install an app, it doesn't ask you for your password to your apple ID, this
is a little shaky to me, maybe they will correct it by Wednesday.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:

 There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is 
 inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm 
 hesitant to upgrade is this is the case.
 Thanks.
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kliphton
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
 
 I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially 
 in iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a 
 do not disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!
 
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Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Hank Smith

I hipe the app store will be come accessible.
I don't like the fact I can not update via the phone
On 9/16/2012 2:53 PM, Kliphton wrote:

It's accessible, but not as much as on ios5, your not able to update apps with 
out sited help.  The way I have worked around this, is I update them in iTunes, 
and then sink my phone.  The other thing is, when you attempt to install an 
app, it doesn't ask you for your password to your apple ID, this is a little 
shaky to me, maybe they will correct it by Wednesday.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:


There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is
inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm hesitant
to upgrade is this is the case.
Thanks.

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Of Kliphton
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in
iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not
disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:


48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
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RE: typing on iphone

2012-09-16 Thread Cristobal
Gerardo,

 

I think you’re responding the these emails, but at the bottom of the message
chain where they can easily get lost instead of at the top. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: typing on iphone

 

El 15/09/2012 09:39 p.m., John Diakogeorgiou escribió: 

Thanks for inadvertently showing me how to add other letters. As someone
else said you are holding your finger down to long. If you hear some tones
you have held it down to long. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: typing on iphone

 

How to describe.  Everything generally goes well with Siri dictation and
using Fleksy for emails, etc.  However, when typing on the native keyboard,
I will start to type and there will be a blip and it says “other characters”
or similar.  I usually have my finger on the keyboard letter when it does
this, and when I lift my finger it will speak the previous letter a second
time and place it in whatever I am writing.  I then have to delete that
letter and start forward again only to have it happen in another couple of
words.  Is there a setting I can turn off? I have autocorrection on.  Could
this be the problem? So annoying that I will turn it off if need be.  Thanks
in advance.

Reggie

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Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Allison Mervis
Are they working on making the update process accessible? That's really an 
unacceptable over sight on Apple's part in my opinion. I don't typically use 
iTunes, choosing instead to use iCloud.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's accessible, but not as much as on ios5, your not able to update apps 
 with out sited help.  The way I have worked around this, is I update them in 
 iTunes, and then sink my phone.  The other thing is, when you attempt to 
 install an app, it doesn't ask you for your password to your apple ID, this 
 is a little shaky to me, maybe they will correct it by Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is
 inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm hesitant
 to upgrade is this is the case.
 Thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kliphton
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
 
 I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in
 iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not
 disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!
 
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Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread James Mannion
I agree. That is really extremely unacceptable. That is very basic
functionality and there is absolutely no excuse for Apple to break
that accessibility.

On 9/16/12, Allison Mervis alliso...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are they working on making the update process accessible? That's really an
 unacceptable over sight on Apple's part in my opinion. I don't typically use
 iTunes, choosing instead to use iCloud.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's accessible, but not as much as on ios5, your not able to update apps
 with out sited help.  The way I have worked around this, is I update them
 in iTunes, and then sink my phone.  The other thing is, when you attempt
 to install an app, it doesn't ask you for your password to your apple ID,
 this is a little shaky to me, maybe they will correct it by Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:

 There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is
 inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm
 hesitant
 to upgrade is this is the case.
 Thanks.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Kliphton
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

 I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially
 in
 iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do
 not
 disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:

 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!

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Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Amy Harris
I pretty much haven't used braille since school either, and I don't want to 
think about how long ago that was, *GRIN* but I can see where it would 
really come in handy for me in meetings so I really want/need to re-learn 
computer braille.  Sheesh, can you say run-on?!!!  I thought I learned 
English in school too, but apparently NOT! LOL
 
I really appreciate the info on computer braille, and the info on the app, 
which I intend to BUY, especially since it came along after I graduated.  I 
think that, especially when I'm supposed to be taking notes in meetings, 
this will really be helpful!  I can't appreciate this enough since I 
wouldn't have a clue without everyone's help!
 
Amy

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RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread AnonyMouse
Hello,

I'm going to try to put this to a rest. Our posting is correct. We did this
so others would be aware of this issue before upgrading.

This is one major flaw that we have found on the IOS 6. It is usable to a
sense. Just many other features are not. So it is not fully accessible nor
totally inaccessible.

I do plan on having a podcast on this issue for you to listen. I will show
you how to get around some of the problems. I will also show you what you
can't and can do on the podcast.

You can download the podcast on Wednesday. So before or after you have
installed your IOS 6 give this a listen. However, I highly recommend to our
users to listen to the podcast as I will mention many more things to note
besides the App Store. We are not saying not to upgrade but to know what to
expect when you do. That choice is up to you to make.

We are trying to let everyone know that there are problems with the IOS 6.

Regards,
AnonyMouse
AppleVis Editorial Team
www.AppleVis.com
Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
Zello: =AnonyMouse=


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is
inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm hesitant
to upgrade is this is the case.
Thanks.

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Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in
iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not
disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:

 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!
 
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Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread James Mannion
Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in
updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or
reliability issues?

Thanks,
Jim

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 I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in
 iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not
 disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
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RE: New itunes

2012-09-16 Thread Cristobal
All I want is for nothing to get broken. 

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New itunes

Hi Fanus,

This iTunes 10.7 release is just a minor release which I assume was
necessary for the upcoming iOS 6 update. As John pointed out, it's pretty
much the same as before and I have noticed any differences regarding how it
works with Jaws. What I am more concerned about is the major iTunes update
which is coming in October as it will apparently have a completely new look
and feel. I just downloaded the Jaws 14 public Beta which by the way works
great and there is no mention about the new upcoming iTunes. Maybe Jonathan
has something to say about it if it's not some well-kept secret. Of course
Jaws 14 is not scheduled to be released until the end of October assuming
the public beta doesn't reveal any issues which delay this and I assume
iTunes will come out more in the first half of October. I guess we will have
to wait and see, I certainly won't upgrade to this new major update until I
know if it works well with Jaws.

Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Deleting from within music app

2012-09-16 Thread Ramy Moustafa
I succeeded, finally,
Swipe to the right and just hit 1 finger tap.


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Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:40 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Deleting from within music app

Do you keep the swipe finger on the screen and tap with a second finger, or
does the swipe finger come off the screen before the tap?

Thanks.

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Of dr.andrewat...@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:33 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Deleting from within music app

Double tap, swipe to the right and tap with another finger at the end
of the swipe.
You're basically swiping to the right and touching with two fingers.

HTH
Andre



Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 I have 3gs, and I can't delete any song fromit, please please I need help


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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kirsten Edmondson
 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Deleting from within music app

 Thanks, I'll try. It's funny, but I was wishing I could get Siri to do it
 too!

 Kirsten

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 15 Sep 2012, at 11:09, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Kirsten,
  It, (meaning your results) may vary from say, a 3GS to a 4S perhaps
since
 it
  depends on pinpoint timing in my experience.
 
  On my 4S I double-tap--Hold, wait for the tri-tone and while it is
still
  sounding I do a quick swipe to the right. This only works about 80% of
the
  time and the timing of the last part of the gesture seems to be the key,
 it
  has to be almost frantic for lack of a better description. And this is
 one
  continuous gesture without a finger lift inbetween.
 
  Once I get my 3GS back from the person who borrowed it way too long ago
 I'll
  try the same thing with the slower processor and report my findings.
It's
  not you but the gesture seems about as consistent as do the ones
 pertaining
  to the rotor. The rotor will cooperate 90% of the time and sometimes
  twisting it one direction works better than the other. But hey, 90's
 better
  than 80 so maybe the Apple gods are smiling down on us some days after
 all.
  Now if I could just talk Siri into doing that part . . .
 
  Jon
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
  Of Kirsten Edmondson
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:50 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Deleting from within music app
 
  I don't know what I'm doing wrong but can't get delete to come up when I
  double tap, hold and then swipe. There is a menu button which comes up
at
  the end of the whole list of albums, but double tapping and holding
 doesn't
  do anything either!
  Any suggestions?
  Thanks
 
 
  Kirsten
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 

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RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Hope Paulos
Thank you and your team. I think this is wonderful of you guys to do this.
Hope 

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Of AnonyMouse
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:20 PM
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Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

Hello,

I'm going to try to put this to a rest. Our posting is correct. We did this
so others would be aware of this issue before upgrading.

This is one major flaw that we have found on the IOS 6. It is usable to a
sense. Just many other features are not. So it is not fully accessible nor
totally inaccessible.

I do plan on having a podcast on this issue for you to listen. I will show
you how to get around some of the problems. I will also show you what you
can't and can do on the podcast.

You can download the podcast on Wednesday. So before or after you have
installed your IOS 6 give this a listen. However, I highly recommend to our
users to listen to the podcast as I will mention many more things to note
besides the App Store. We are not saying not to upgrade but to know what to
expect when you do. That choice is up to you to make.

We are trying to let everyone know that there are problems with the IOS 6.

Regards,
AnonyMouse
AppleVis Editorial Team
www.AppleVis.com
Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
Zello: =AnonyMouse=


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Of Hope Paulos
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is
inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm hesitant
to upgrade is this is the case.
Thanks.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kliphton
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in
iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not
disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:

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 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!
 
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Re: braille reference, was Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

2012-09-16 Thread Frank Ventura
Thanks for the heads up about that app, looks good.
Frank Ventura
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Voicemail: 781 492-4262
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*Sent from my Mac Book Air*



On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Richard Turner 
richard.turne...@gmail.commailto:richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Scott, Amy and others,
If you want a quick, easy way to look up braille codes you can't remember, 
there is an app, made by someone I know, called Braille Reference, and is $0.99 
in the app store.
Under the computer braille section, if you select to search by name, it will 
show you an alphabetical list of contractions.  The At sign is the fourth one 
in the list.  He says dots 7 and 4, which is correct.  However, you can get 
this if you are using contracted braille by doing space bar plus u for upper 
case and then just a dot 4.

He plans an update with visual images for the braille cells in the near future 
and there are a couple of search things he needs to clean up, but it is a handy 
tool for a lot of my braille students.

HTH,
Richard




From: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comhttp://googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
Howell
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone

David,

Do you tend to use contracted more than uncontracted Braille? Also I think I'm 
going to get one of those booklets that will help me remember how to make an 
at @ symbol etc.  I never used computer Braille. In fact until a year ago or 
so I had not used Braille since I was in school which was a good while ago. :)
I'm really looking to use my RefreshaBraille for more than just reading. :)

On Sep 16, 2012, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden 
dchitten...@gmail.commailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

All braille displays work similarly with the iPhone. It is the iOS software 
which controls everything. The braille display is for viewing and the keyboard 
is for typing. Controls are more basic than with a braille note taker.

I would be cautious about getting the HumanWare or vario displays. Connections 
can be more problematic do to the nature of the bluetooth driver stacks and 
controls in the HumanWare products.

I have an Alva BC640 and a RefreshaBraille. Both work well with my iPhone.

That said, I prefer the Refreshabraille because I can turn it on and off whilst 
my iPhone is unlocked and it connects and disconnects without difficulties. My 
Alva, on the other hand, requires that I lock my iPhone before I turn the Alva 
on. After the display is on, I unlock my iPhone and the Alva automatically 
connects. However, when I write in 8 dot computer braille, the Alva is easier 
because all 8 dots are in a row (40 cells gives more room for the keyboard). On 
the Refreshabraille, dots 7 and 8 are next to the spacebar, so harder to press 
dot 7 for capitalisation.

National Braille Press, NBP, in the US has a braille brochure with the computer 
braille code. They also use to sell a book training on computer braille. In 
computer braille, the letters are the same, numbers are dropped to the lower 
part of the 6 dot cell (1 is dot 2, 2 is dots 2 3, 3 is dots 2 5, Etc.), and 
there are unique symbols for each punctuation mark. Upper-case letters are the 
same as lower-case letters with dot 7 added. I write computer braille at the 
same speed that I write contracted braille.

For large files, I find my iPhone 4 does better in 8 dot mode rather than 
contracted braille mode. Also, in contracted braille mode, iOS has a half 
second buffer. If you stop writing for half a second, whatever is in the buffer 
is translated and written to the field. Braille entry works whenever the 
keyboard is activated. Also, almost everything VO speaks is simultaneously 
displayed in braille. I regularly take notes in braille during meetings with 
speech muted.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.commailto:dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2012, at 7:05, Amy Harris 
aharr...@gmail.commailto:aharr...@gmail.com wrote:

Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal.  I 
knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help.  You know, useful help. *GRIN*

I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves.  That's 
not really what I need.  I need something more along the lines of being able to 
turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through braille while in a 
meeting.  Does that eliminate any of these devices?  I'd also love a display 
that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages, Notes, Mail, Reminders, my 
grocery list app, and so on.  Does such a thing even exist, or does it all have 
to be done through the particular braille display's software?

Amy

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RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like clarification
on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to continue given that
those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be under NDA.

Jonathan 

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Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in
updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or
reliability issues?

Thanks,
Jim

On 9/16/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially 
 in iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a 
 do not disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:

 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!

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Re: Summary from today's event

2012-09-16 Thread Robin

Hello,

If you want to purchase a iPhone 4S with 32GB, I 
highly suggest you get it prior to the 21st of 
SEPTEMBER, which is when the NEW iPhone 5 will 
DEBUT, which would result in only purchase of an 
8GB iPhone 4S from America's mobile phone 
carriers. The only other way you can purchase a 
32GB iPhone 4S would be to purchase it online from either Ama

zon or eBay.
At 08:35 AM 9/13/2012, you wrote:

Yes this is true going by the summary posted.


Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 13/09/2012 16:00, Wendy Alling wrote:

Hello,
Did I read it right that the 32 gb 4S was going 
to be discontinued?  Hope this isn't true 
because I was going to upgrade my 4 to that phone.



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Date: Wednesday, Sep 12, 2012 09:03:49 PM
Subject: RE: Summary from today's event




It is just a new name for the new headset which will come with the iPhone 5
and the iPod Touch 5 devices. It is also available for $30 or $35 as a
separate purchase if you want to use it with your existing iDevice.
Apparently it's better quality with a larger remote.



Regards,

Sieghard





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Of Karim Lakhani
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:52 PM

@ ,to3 viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Summary from today's event



Hi,

Does an ear pod mean you can store music on it as well?

Not sure what the purpose of a ear pod would be other then that?

Thanks.







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Hi,

The earPod is a earpiece accessory from Apple. The fifth gen iTouch will be
available in 32 or 64 GB model.

Cheers,

Joseph



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Subject: Re: Summary from today's event



Hi,

What's earpod? Also, will the ipod touch 5 only be available in 16 gb, if so
it's kind of a bummer for us stubborn people who won't store our music in
the cloud.

Courtney





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Re: iPhone 5

2012-09-16 Thread Robin
I FEEL what you are saying, and I intend to keep and hold onto my 
unlimited data. i like the luxury of NOT having to check to see if I 
went over my alotted data amount for a given month or period.


I'm hoping that if and when VZW begins offering the NEW Windows Phone 
with Windows Phone 8, they bring back unlimited data for a short 
period like they did when they began selling the iPhone 4. Prior to 
selling the iPhone, VZW stopped offering unlimited data.


At 08:04 AM 9/14/2012, you wrote:
I find it a little irritating with Verizon that in order to keep 
your unlimited data plan, you must pay full price for the iPhone 
5.  I think I'm going to Sprint with the rest of my family.  We 
don't even have 4G here yet, but hopefully it's coming.

On Sep 12, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

 Only reason for me who has a 4S would be for the 4th generation connection,
 but I think I will wait until next year.

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 17:13
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 Subject: iPhone 5

 Hi all,
 So, what do you all think of iPhone 5?
 How many of you are going to upgrade?
 For me personally, since I am upgrading from an iPhone 4, I think it is
 worth the upgrade.
 What with Siri, the faster processor, three microphones LTE and maps
 features-thigns you won't get on the 4 with IOS 6.
 What are peoples thoughts?
 Rich Cavallaro


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Re: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-16 Thread Robin
I highly suggest you wait until you see WHAT accessibility is like on 
the Nokia Lumia 920 with Windows Phone 8. Maybe Microsoft will KNOCK 
your SOCKS off with its 1st iteration of accessibility on Windows Phone.



In my humble opinion, SMART Phone platforms are becoming MORE 
ACCESSIBLE such as Android's JellyBean, BlackBerry, Windows Phone,  
of course Apple, WHO initiated it all with its 1st fully out of the 
box accessible iPhone 3GS back in Mid 2009.


Here's to more competition
!
At 04:03 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote:

Hi there,

I think what a little disappoint me is the no real improvement on 
the camera side of things. I was quite looking forward to at least 
12mp camera. That will make a different when come to things like 
OCR, or the pertential of some digital magnifying or similar things. 
Considering the new Nokia Lumia comes with like 41mp camera or some 
crazy number like that, i think 12mp or 14mp, or even 16mp isn't too 
much to ask for from Apple.


Regardless, i think it will be an upgrate for me, from 4 to 5. I' 
quite looking forward for the new features that 4 doesn't have, e.g. 
SIRI, turn by turn maps, passbook, etc.


Joannee

Sent from my iPhone

On 15/09/2012, at 8:16, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 It came out a few months ago that NFC is quite open to Kernel 
attacks in one's device. In other words, it has some very large 
security flaws. The current recommendation for Android phones which 
have it is to disable NFC until such time as a proper fix can be 
devised and distributed.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 14/09/2012, at 18:46, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 I'm personally disappointed there is no NFC, and because of that may wait.
 NFC would have had me in line to buy one when the stores opened.

 Other than that I think they did what they needed to do.

 Jonathan

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 Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 2:41 p.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming

 My question would be, what did you want it to include that it did not?
 To some of us it is worth it to have LTE support verses not with the old
 models. Sounds like the case will be nicer as you said. I can't 
really say I
 get the point people are trying to make about it being 
underwhelming and not

 really any real upgrade and things like that.
 When I read things like that I just really want to scream, what 
do you want!

 I think at times people get an idea in their head and lose track of why
 logicly.

 On 9/13/12, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe you're right. Remember though that your performance is only as
 good as your wireless network and/or your cell service. Anyway, I
 don't mean for the thread to balloon into a negative rant. I was just
 offering some views from a consumer's viewpoint.



 Joe



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 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:59 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming



 Joe,



 It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processor and a gig
 of ram is sexy enough for me to trade in my 4s for the 5.



 Keith



 On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:





 Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'm not
 an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac
 Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this
 latest model. The hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the
 current ugly boxy form factor, and iOS 6 has some interesting new
 whistles. Yet, I feel like these whistles have lost their shrill
 compared to other platforms. Maybe it's because there is only one
 annual update as compared to the barrage from other manufacturers, but
 then, maybe it's because there is only one annual update that the
 iPhone should make more of a splash.



 Anyway, for whatever it's worth, if you're sitting on the 4S, my
 consumer advice is that the new model is not worth it. Strictly
 personally speaking mind you. Yet, I know people always ask, and
 please do forgive me if the subject has already been covered.



 Let's hope other platforms keep up the innovation so as to put Apple
 more in line with the cool factor it once enjoyed.



 Joe



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RE: Summary from today's event

2012-09-16 Thread Rich Cavallaro
Actually, it's 16 gigs for the iPhone 4s for $99.


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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Summary from today's event

Hello,

If you want to purchase a iPhone 4S with 32GB, I highly suggest you get it
prior to the 21st of SEPTEMBER, which is when the NEW iPhone 5 will DEBUT,
which would result in only purchase of an 8GB iPhone 4S from America's
mobile phone carriers. The only other way you can purchase a 32GB iPhone 4S
would be to purchase it online from either Ama zon or eBay.
At 08:35 AM 9/13/2012, you wrote:
Yes this is true going by the summary posted.


Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 13/09/2012 16:00, Wendy Alling wrote:
Hello,
Did I read it right that the 32 gb 4S was going to be discontinued?  
Hope this isn't true because I was going to upgrade my 4 to that 
phone.


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,f3 ,sied ,weitzel siegh...@live.ca
,to3  viphone@googlegroups.com,
Date: Wednesday, Sep 12, 2012 09:03:49 PM
Subject: RE: Summary from today's event



It is just a new name for the new headset which will come with the 
iPhone 5 and the iPod Touch 5 devices. It is also available for $30 
or $35 as a separate purchase if you want to use it with your existing
iDevice.
Apparently it's better quality with a larger remote.



Regards,

Sieghard





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Behalf Of Karim Lakhani
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:52 PM
@ ,to3 viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Summary from today's event



Hi,

Does an ear pod mean you can store music on it as well?

Not sure what the purpose of a ear pod would be other then that?

Thanks.







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@ ,,email3 karim.lakh...@shaw.ca
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:42 PM
@ ,to3 viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Summary from today's event

Hi,

The earPod is a earpiece accessory from Apple. The fifth gen iTouch 
will be available in 32 or 64 GB model.

Cheers,

Joseph



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Behalf Of Moop Curran
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:37 PM
@ ,to3 viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Summary from today's event



Hi,

What's earpod? Also, will the ipod touch 5 only be available in 16 
gb, if so it's kind of a bummer for us stubborn people who won't 
store our music in the cloud.

Courtney





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RE: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-16 Thread Robin
I know this is a bit off topic, but the NEW Windows Phone 8, Nokia 
Lumia 920, will have built in accessibility. I just don't know how it 
will compare to the iPhone's accessibility or Android's 
accessibility. I do know that Microsoft waited 2 years before putting 
out of the box accessibility into its Windows Phone Platform simular 
to Apple when it launched the iPhone in 2007 without any out of the 
box accessibility, and offer accessibility in 2009 when it launched 
the iPhone 3GS.


Let's HOPE that Microsoft  Google step up to the plate and offer 
simular accessibility as Apple has done. It offers more choice, and 
we (the blind) will have choices like everyone else, and not be 
confined to a limited number of options.


Here's to competition!

At 09:32 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote:

Hi Joanne,

I have not noticed a significant improvement with OCR and barcode scanning
apps between my iPhone 4 with a 5 MP camera and my iPhone 4S with an 8 MP
campera and many other improvements in the camera/image processing. I think
how well or not well many of these apps work depends on whether the
developers take full advantage of the camera quality. The iPhone 4S camera
and I'm sure the iPhone 5 camera with its slight improvements is considered
to be one of the best if not the best camera on a mobile phone and that
includes Nokia phones with a 12 Mp camera. I am not sure whether you heard
about this embarrassing episode when Nokia showed off this fantastic video
which they said was taken with the Lumia 920 camera. The video which
featured a woman riding a bike, was pretty impressive, but somebody from the
technology blog The Verge soon spotted a truth. Nokia made it look like the
woman was shot by a companion who was also riding a bike, but a reflection
in the video showed that she was actually shot by someone in a van holding a
much larger camera and accompanied by a lighting crew. Oops.

In any case, the Lumia 920 camera is not a 41 MP or a 16 MP nor a 12 MP. It
has an 8.7 MP sensor. Here is what I ound in a comparison review:

Perhaps the most important point of comparison here should be for the
cameras. The iPhone 5 still features an 8-megapixel sensor, but now it's 40
percent
faster, with better low-light performance and improved noise reduction. The
phone's gyroscope, processor, and camera app also work together to create
seamless,
high-res panoramas up to 28 megapixels. And the front-facing camera has been
given an update to 720p for HD FaceTime Calls.

The Lumia 920 also boasts an impressive camera, with an 8.7-megapixel sensor
and Nokia's PureView technology. According to Nokia, the camera can capture
5-10 times the amount of light of any competing smartphone cameras via a
floating lens technology that surpasses the optical image stabilization
system
of most digital SLRs. There's also a 1.3-megapixel, front-facing camera
with 720p HD video capture.

Is the Lumia 920 camera good? Yes, I assume it's probably very good and
maybe it's even better than the iPhone 5 camera, but the actual sensor is
not that much better so it will depend on the lenses and whatever else makes
for good pictures and we have to wait and see whether the great specs of the
Lumia 920 will stack up in reality. For those who are interested, here is a
bit more from that comparison, of course the Lumia 920 maybe a beautiful
phone and Windows Phone 8 may even be something to take seriously,
unfortunately it's of course not accessible and I have never heard a word
about accessibility of the platform at this point which is too bad because
if it were accessible it would give us another choice which would only be
good.

From a design standpoint, the Lumia 920 may be the only smartphone out
there to give the beautiful new iPhone 5 a run for its money. Made out of
glossy polycarbonate and glass, the Lumia 920's fun colors are a flashy
alternative to the black or white iPhone 5. But the iPhone definitely wins
for size, at just 4.87 by 2.31 by 0.3 inches and 3.95 ounces. The Lumia 920
is downright hefty by comparison.
It is 5.12 by 2.78 by 0.42 inches and 6.52 ounces.

The iPhone 5 features a 4-inch, 1,136-by-640-pixel display-it's the first
iPhone with a display larger than 3.5 inches. The Lumia 920, meanwhile, has
a
4.5-inch screen, with 1,280-by-768-pixel resolution. At 332 pixels per inch,
it's actually a bit denser than Apple's 326 ppi display. Still, that
difference
will be imperceptible to the naked eye, so it's really a matter of which
size display you prefer, and which size feels more comfortable to hold.

The iPhone 5 is powered by Apple's new A6 chip, which it claims is up to
twice as fast as the A5 processor found in the iPhone 4S. The Lumia 920,
meanwhile,
is powered by a 1.5-GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4. We've tested that
chip in plenty of other phones, like the Samsung Galaxy S III, and it's
super
fast.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

2012-09-16 Thread gabey8
One drawback of a who is near me command is that it most likely would have to 
be a feature that is enabled by each person -- in other words, the person would 
have to be willing to share their location (broadcast it, actually) in order to 
make themselves findable. Not everyone is comfortable with doing that.


Does this capability currently exist in iOS or even Android? I know that the 
ability exists to transmit one's location at a given address. But is it 
possible yet to narrow that down to broadcasting where we are in a large room, 
so others in the room can find us?



Donna

Visit Gabey's Place today. :-)



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To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, Sep 15, 2012 6:00 am
Subject: RE: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?



Thanks this is great I see quite a number of good commands that are new to the 
system. Possibility of future evolution? Does anyone else on the list 
considering our group take note of the who is near me command? I assume 
naturally that will only work at this time with folks who have iPhones, but the 
future possibilities for us blind folks are quite interesting. No more 
wondering around trying to find one another at a gathering.
 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 03:17
Subject: Fwd: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

 

For those who wonder what Siri is truly capable of in the forthcoming iOS 6 
which will be available next week.

 

Subject: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?


 


http://www.tuaw.com/2012/09/14/what-can-you-say-to-siri-in-ios-6/


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Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Robert Fenton
Hello: 
 
I too have a question. I am not a tester of the new operating system. Did this 
new version of the app store get introduced for the first time just before the 
new operating system is to be released? If so, is there a workable compromise 
to introduce the old code for the app store until such time as the new code can 
be made accessible? Thank you. 

Sent from my iPhone

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 I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like clarification
 on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to continue given that
 those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be under NDA.
 
 Jonathan 
 
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 Of James Mannion
 Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: kliph...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
 
 Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in
 updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or
 reliability issues?
 
 Thanks,
 Jim
 
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 I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially 
 in iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a 
 do not disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!
 
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RE: blue tooth head phones

2012-09-16 Thread Ramy Moustafa
What's the meaning of transmitter?


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Subject: Re: blue tooth head phones

Look at either jaybird.net or the Plantronics 903 series.

Jaybird has Bluetooth headphones, but also transmitters. The Plantronics 903
model is headphones and a transmitter.

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Skype: sseric57


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Introduction

2012-09-16 Thread Ezzie Ez

hereello everyone,

My name is Ezzie Bueno and I am a college student majoring in 
music education.  I've been using a Macbook Pro for almost two 
years now.
Now that my upgrade is here, I've decided to take the plunge and 
get myself in gear with the all-new iPhone 5! I'm totally blind 
and have never used a Touwh Screen in my life.
 How did you get started using the iPhone? What tips do you have 
for me as far as getting VO turned on, using SIRI, and getting 
started in general? Also, which apps do you all recommend once I 
get comfortable with the iPhone itself?


Thank you,
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RE: blue tooth head phones

2012-09-16 Thread Ramy Moustafa
It support this I think, but how will I know on the store that this or that
model support A2DP?
Will   voice over will not work? Or what will happen?

Thank s in advance.


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Of David Chittenden
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Subject: Re: blue tooth head phones

To be specific, if you want VoiceOver to work through the Bluetooth
earpiece, the earpiece must support A2DP profile. When you search, make sure
A2DP is part of your search criteria.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

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 Look at either jaybird.net or the Plantronics 903 series.
 
 Jaybird has Bluetooth headphones, but also transmitters. The Plantronics
903 model is headphones and a transmitter.
 
 Telephone: (614)522-9725 
 Skype: sseric57
 
 
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 Hi;
 I am going to get a blue tooth headphone.  I am not sure if all of them
play all sounds on an phone 4s.  Mainly i wonder about voice over, music and
books.  I also looking for a blue tooth transmitter for my victor stream so
I can use the same headphones for both.  Thanks Dave
 
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RE: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

2012-09-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
The who is near me is simply a voice interface to the find friends app. So
it will find people you have added to that app.
 
Jonathan

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of gab...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012 3:51 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?


One drawback of a who is near me command is that it most likely would have
to be a feature that is enabled by each person -- in other words, the person
would have to be willing to share their location (broadcast it, actually) in
order to make themselves findable. Not everyone is comfortable with doing
that. 


Does this capability currently exist in iOS or even Android? I know that the
ability exists to transmit one's location at a given address. But is it
possible yet to narrow that down to broadcasting where we are in a large
room, so others in the room can find us?


Donna

Visit Gabey's Place http://gabey8.blogspot.com  today. :-)
http://farmteamchronicles.blogspot.com 


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To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, Sep 15, 2012 6:00 am
Subject: RE: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?


Thanks this is great I see quite a number of good commands that are new to
the system. Possibility of future evolution? Does anyone else on the list
considering our group take note of the who is near me command? I assume
naturally that will only work at this time with folks who have iPhones, but
the future possibilities for us blind folks are quite interesting. No more
wondering around trying to find one another at a gathering.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com? ] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 03:17
Subject: Fwd: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?
 
For those who wonder what Siri is truly capable of in the forthcoming iOS 6
which will be available next week.
 
Subject: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

 

http://www.tuaw.com/2012/09/14/what-can-you-say-to-siri-in-ios-6/


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re: youmail question

2012-09-16 Thread Ezzie Ez
Call the Youmail number that you would be calling to listen to 
your voicemail.  Press was and you will be given the option to 
record a greeting.


HTH,
Ezzie Bueno


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Date sent: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:23:49 -0400
Subject: youmail question

Hi all.  I listened to the podcast on youmail and set up an 
account.
The trouble is that I can't seem to record a greeting without 
voiceover

in the background saying start recording and stop recording.  Any
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New iPhone user and new to iTunes

2012-09-16 Thread Charlotte
Hello all. I'm a new iPhone user and I just downloaded some ringtones, 
and am also looking for more. I don't know how to sync them with iTunes 
so they show up in my ringtone list. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Charlotte

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Re: Deleting messages from native facebook app

2012-09-16 Thread helpful teen
You need to get on a computer and delete your messages then get on your 
Iphone log out and log back in. 

 Sincerly, 
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RE: When Will Next Ipad Be Released

2012-09-16 Thread Rose Combs
are they calling it a mini pad?  

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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:51 AM
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Subject: RE: When Will Next Ipad Be Released

Hi,

There's apparently going to be another event in October, but we don't' know
for sure. According to sources I've read, they're going to introduce that
7.85-inch iPad.

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Subject: RE: When Will Next Ipad Be Released

They didn't say a word about a new iPad.  I listened to the entire
presentation.
I believe the last two iPads were released in March or April, not the Fall,
so I suspect if there is going to be a new smaller iPad, it will be early
next year.
I have nothing to base that on, other than Apple's history.

Richard
  


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Subject: When Will Next Ipad Be Released

Hi Everyone, 

Has there been any mention of when a newer Ipad will be released?  I thought
I heard some discussion but could absolutely be wrong.  Trying to decide
whether to buy what the New Ipad AKA Ipad 3 or wait because a newer version
is going to be released.  

Thank you,

Lynda 

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RE: Preordered my iPhone 5!

2012-09-16 Thread Sharon
Hi,
I also preordered the I phone 5 black 16 gb and ordered it from ATT's site
about 7:00 a.m. They said should be here the 21st.

Sharon

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Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Preordered my iPhone 5!

Hi,
I ordered a black 32GB iPhone 5, from the sprint site. I actually ordered at
8:30 in the morning yesterday. Its do to be delivered on the 21st.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
  
 I've preordered my iPhone 5, and it should arrive on or near October 5th.
Has anyone else taken the plunge and preordered, what capacity did you get,
and from where?
 
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RE: youmail question

2012-09-16 Thread Mary Ellen Sanchez
Hello I am having trouble setting up a you mail account and am not sure what
to do. I tried connecting with facebook but I have trouble. So any help
would be greatly appreciated thanks.

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Hi all.  I listened to the podcast on youmail and set up an account. 
The trouble is that I can't seem to record a greeting without voiceover in
the background saying start recording and stop recording. Any suggestions?
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RE: youmail question

2012-09-16 Thread Ezzie Ez
I do not yet have the Youmail app because I do not yet have an 
iPhone.  However, Youmail lets you listen to your voicemails and 
you can customize different %greetings for different callers.  
You can set Youmail to ditch blocked callers so that they won't 
be able to leave you messages.  You can receive messages to your 
email and download them to your computer.


HTH,
Ezzie Bueno

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Date sent: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:46:33 -0400
Subject: RE: youmail question

What does this app do? Is it an email program?
Reggie


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On Behalf

Of Hope Paulos
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: youmail question

Hello all.  Can someone please provide me with a link to the 
podcast of this

voicemail program?
Thanks!
Hope

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2012, at 11:11 PM, AnonyMouse 
anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com

wrote:

Rebecca,

One of the cool feature I have found that is quite simple to use 
when you
find yourself in the spot you are describing.  What I do is just 
do a

triple
fingers double tap.  This will silence the Voice Over but not 
disable it.
Thus allows you to double tap the record without Voice Over 
rudely

speaking
when you don't want her to talk! ;)

Once you are done.  Just use the triple fingers double tap again 
to turn

the
Voice Over voice back on.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
AnonyMouse
AppleVis Editorial Team
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Subject: youmail question

Hi all.  I listened to the podcast on youmail and set up an 
account.
The trouble is that I can't seem to record a greeting without 
voiceover in
the background saying start recording and stop recording.  Any 
suggestions?

Thanks.
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RE: youmail question

2012-09-16 Thread Mary Ellen Sanchez
Yes I am unable to get to that point on you mail. But I did create a you
mail account on the computer and whenever I launch the you mail app it says
error can't find it. so any help would be greatly appreciated. I am able to
sign on the computer though. so I am not sure what I am doing wrong.

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Thanks for answering my youmail question.  I'm in the new user wizard 
and it says congratulations thanks for using youmail on the i phone and 
then it says swipe to view next screen. I tried swiping to the right 
with 1 2 and 3 fingers, it doesn't move to the next screen also tried up 
and down and no movement to the next screen so i'm stuck in thi one screen.
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Multiplayer Games

2012-09-16 Thread Jeff Molzow
Hello:

I'm interested in knowing if there are some multi-player games, for the
IPhone or IPad,  that can be played either over Bluetooth, or
Wi-Fi/Internet, that are accessible with VoiceOver. I'd prefer to find games
like card games, board games, and am not really interested in fantasy or
roll playing games. What are you all finding accessible out there please??

Thanks
Jeff


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one more unlocked iPhone 4 16 gig $140 cable charger and jell rubber case included

2012-09-16 Thread Rich Cavallaro
Hi all:
Despite I having sold my iPhone 4 and ordered the 5, my mom wants to
sell her iPhone 4 16 gig and get a 5.
So, I am posting this add for her.
Pay pal is the accepted form of payment to my gmail address-i will
then transfer funds to her.
For sale, is an iPhone 4 16 gig in perfect condition.
 She will be unlocking it before it is  shipped. She is selling it,
plus a jell rubber case that goes around the phone and has a screen
protector.
Also included is a cable and  charger for $140 including shipping. pay
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 If interested, let me know.
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Pay pal to my gmail address however.
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RE: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I don't have a complete list of which features are not available, but I
believe the 3GS also does not get the new phone features like answering a
call with a predefined text message if you can't take the call, Do Not
Disturb etc. I also think the VIP Mailbox is not available on the 3GS and
there are a few more. Apple really does want people to upgrade especially
those with a 3GS.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice
Over

Hi,

There are some things - maps for example that won't be fully functional on
the 3GS. I wonder if Google accessibility have scene number 38?

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/16/12, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:
 Hi,

 iOS 6 will be available on the 3GS. Since there's no Siri on the 3GS, 
 those features won't be there, but I would imagine most of the others will
be.

 Best,
 Anna



 On Sep 16, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Gerardo Corripio gera1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Wow! Too bad Iphones 3gs like mine wn't get along with Ios6! So I 
 guess I'll just have to continue reading up on your experiences on 
 some of these features!

 -Mensaje original-
 De: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] En 
 nombre de Sieghard Weitzel Enviado el: domingo, 16 de septiembre de 
 2012 10:40 a.m.
 Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Asunto: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice 
 Over

 Hello Avnish and others,

 I haven't spend too much time on Google, but a quick search about 
 iOS 6 accessibility did produce quite a few hits, here is one I 
 read. Many of the
 40 features we already heard about, but it's a nice comprehensive 
 list and while the author doesn't go into details, he does mention 
 Voiceover improvements as well as other accessibility improvements. 
 I believe Kimber recently asked about how she can make the alarm play 
 a particular song, well, item 35 in the list indicates that this will 
 be an iOS 6 feature.

 I also hope all you who preordered the iPhone 5 have not neglected to 
 place orders for your favourite BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar or Land Rover 
 to take advantage of Siri in-car integration, after all, you may have 
 to wait quite long to get just the colour you want! I'm just ticked 
 off that this won't work with my vintage Rolls Royce Silver Dawn 
 *smile*.

 Anyhow, here is the link to the article and below the actual list for 
 those who want just the basics:
 http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/11/40-ios-6-features-youll-actua
 lly-car
 e-about

 There are over 200 new features in iOS 6, but you won't care about 
 every change Apple made.
 Apple highlights the top iOS 6 features, but there are many more iOS 
 6 features that Apple silently announced.
 These hidden iOS 6 features are features you'll actually use and 
 care about. Check out the 40 iOS 6 Features You'll Actually Use:

 1. FaceTime over 3G and 4G - Make FaceTime calls over cellular 
 connections.
 2. Facebook Integration - Share photos to Facebook from Photos app 
 and Like Apps.
 3. Maps- New maps with traffic and 3D flyover mode.
 4. Calls - Slide to answer a call or slide up to reply with a message 
  remind you to call back later.
 5. Passbook - Your digital wallet for loyalty cards, Amtrak, United, 
 hotel reservations and more.
 6. Lost Mode - Send a phone number to whoever found your lost iPhone 
 to get a call.
 7. Turn by Turn Directions - Voiceguided turn by turn directions with 
 GPS on the iPhone 4S.
 8. Open Apps with Siri - Siri can now open apps with your voice.
 9. VIP Inbox - Tell Mail who your important contacts are so you never 
 miss an email.
 10. Siri - Check sports scores, movie times and make restaurant 
 reservations.
 11. Instant Sharing to Facebook and Twitter - Notification Center 
 lets you share direct to Facebook and Twitter.
 12. Better Sharing Menu - When Sharing, you'll see a new icon driven 
 sharing menu.
 13. Autocorrection for Every Keyboard - Support for autocorrect while 
 using external Bluetooth keyboards.
 14. Location Based Reminders for iPad - The iPad will now support 
 reminders based on location, may be limited to cellular models.
 15. Manual Location Entry for Reminders - No longer need GPS to set a 
 location reminder, type in an address.
 16. VoiceOver Improvements - Better accessibility features from 
 VoiceOver for visually impaired users.
 17. Personal Dictionary in the Cloud - sync personalized spellings 
 and autocorrections of names across iPhone and iPad.
 18. Do Not Disturb - Set the iPhone to prevent calls and 
 notifications from waking you at night, but still allow special 
 callers.
 19. Per Account Signatures in Mail - One signature for work email, 
 one for personal.
 20. Game Center Challenges - Brag about your high score and issue 
 challenges to friends.
 

RE: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

2012-09-16 Thread Rose Combs
Why should she loosen up, There are many words that can be substituted for
foul language and they make one sound more educated also.  


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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

I've done that, the where the hell am I? not the where's my wife?
SIRI doesn't like foul language, O well.

Maybe she'll loosen  up in iOS 6.

Richard


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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

You know I just want to ask Siri where the hell am I? Oh wait there is an
app for that. :) Seriously it would be great if Siri could say hey you fool
your at the corner of 3rd and Main. There is a nice bar nearby and you
should stop and have a couple since you seem a little aggravated. Now that
would be a really good use for Siri. Oh maybe I could say Siri, where's my
wife? why she's three isles over, so you still have a chance to make a run
for it! :) Yep, I'm thinking Siri could really mature into something quite
useful. :)

On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use the dictation feature of siri a lot. Other than that, I don't 
 use
siri for much except voice dialing contacts out of my address book. And like
Ricardo, I can dial a call that has only a company name in the company field
and no first or last name. I would love to see voice inquiry integrated into
the maps and gps, so you could simply ask Siri where am I and get info back
like closest address, nearest intersection etc. But of course, since that
probably doesn't matter much to sighted people, unless they live in my town,
where a lot of the street signs are stolen by students at the start of each
year, it probably won't happen. 
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RE: i5 Underwhelming

2012-09-16 Thread Rose Combs
Isn't that called Holm's law or something similar?  


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Of Kevin Barry
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming

If other  platforms are moving faster it is only because they are far
behind.
As for innovations slowing down; as any technology  matures change will
naturally slow down.
It can not do otherwise.
Everything moves faster when starting from zero.
This is truly basic stuff and I wonder why people keep acting shocked when
they encounter it.

At 03:18 PM 9/15/2012, you wrote:
I think that's what I was getting at: Going from the 4S to the 5 is not 
going to be substantially different. There's a reason why I chose the 
iPhone, but I don't think it unfair to say that Apple appears to be 
innovating at a slower rate than when Jobs was in charge. That doesn't 
mean that Cook is not innovative or that the iPhone is falling way 
behind. All things considered though, I think other platforms are 
raising the bar at a faster rate. Since we're relying on one major OS 
upgrade a year, I'd like to see that upgrade pack a punch. 
Hardware-wise, I think they're doing what they need to do to keep pace. 
The camera is more dynamic even if it stayed at 8 MP. But, Do Not 
Disturb is nothing to be wowed by when other platforms were doing this 
already. I'm fine with them going rogue on maps, but why fix something 
that wasn't broken? The same is true of Youtube. Perhaps my greater 
complaint is that Apple is attempting to pit itself against Google when 
Google could in fact help iOS stay ahead of the curve. Anyway, 
regardless, I am glad that accessibility is still built into the core, 
and that is something that for me personally keeps the iPhone ahead of 
everything else.--Joe

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming

Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what NFC is? LOL, 
just kidding. Every time I hear NFC, I don't think payment system. I 
think, No F.g Clue.

Anyway, seriously though, I'm not going to belittle anyone who upgrades 
from the 4S to the 5 because after all, it's still moving up the chain 
of new devices. However for me personally, I can wait because with what 
I can get out of the 4S, I can't justify a new phone just yet. Now, if 
I was coming from the 3GS or the 4, then I would definitely be getting the
5.

Cheers.


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On 9/14/2012 2:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
  Well said, Allison. It seems that with every release of a new iPhone 
  a certain group of people (and I don't necessarily mean just people 
  on this list) complain and say it's disappointing etc. When the 4S 
  came out it was the same, a lot of people were disappointed it 
  wasn't called the iPhone 5 as if the name matters and so on. I 
  actually think it would have been smart of Apple to just call it 
  the new iPhone, after all, a MacBook Pro or an iMac doesn't have a
model number.
  Compared to a 4S the iPhone 5 is maybe not quite as big an update as 
  the 4S was from the 4, but of course for the many people who are on 
  a
  4 or even 3GS it's huge and who says it has to be this incredible 
  new innovation every year, it's not as if anybody's life and 
  happiness depends on the fact that they buy a new iPhone every year; 
  at least it shouldn't depend on that, if it does maybe you need to 
  spend money on a shrink instead of a new iPhone. I heard a lot of 
  disappointment that there is no NFC, but I think Apple may feel NFC 
  it's just not the thing and they certainly don't adopt something if 
  they don't believe in it or if they think the time isn't right.
 
  Regards,
 
  Sieghard
 
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Re: blue tooth head phones

2012-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
Unless the bluetooth earpiece supports A2DP, VO will only go through the 
earpiece when you are on a phone call. Otherwise, VO will only speak through 
the phone's speaker.

You need to read through the technical specs for each bluetooth earpiece to 
learn if it supports A2DP. If it does, the information will be listed 
somewhere. If no information about A2DP, the earpiece probably does not support 
it.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2012, at 11:51, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:

 It support this I think, but how will I know on the store that this or that
 model support A2DP?
 Will   voice over will not work? Or what will happen?
 
 Thank s in advance.
 
 
 Cheers:
 Ramy Moustafa
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 Of David Chittenden
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 Subject: Re: blue tooth head phones
 
 To be specific, if you want VoiceOver to work through the Bluetooth
 earpiece, the earpiece must support A2DP profile. When you search, make sure
 A2DP is part of your search criteria.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16/09/2012, at 10:06, Eric SS sseri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Look at either jaybird.net or the Plantronics 903 series.
 
 Jaybird has Bluetooth headphones, but also transmitters. The Plantronics
 903 model is headphones and a transmitter.
 
 Telephone: (614)522-9725 
 Skype: sseric57
 
 
 On Sep 15, 2012, at 1:19 PM, David Petrilli dpetri...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi;
 I am going to get a blue tooth headphone.  I am not sure if all of them
 play all sounds on an phone 4s.  Mainly i wonder about voice over, music and
 books.  I also looking for a blue tooth transmitter for my victor stream so
 I can use the same headphones for both.  Thanks Dave
 
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Re: When Will Next Ipad Be Released

2012-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
Apple has not officially announced anything, so everything is rumour. We will 
only learn for certain when Apple makes a public announcement.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2012, at 11:09, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 are they calling it a mini pad?  
 
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 Of Daniel Miller
 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:51 AM
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 Subject: RE: When Will Next Ipad Be Released
 
 Hi,
 
 There's apparently going to be another event in October, but we don't' know
 for sure. According to sources I've read, they're going to introduce that
 7.85-inch iPad.
 
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 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:48 AM
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 Subject: RE: When Will Next Ipad Be Released
 
 They didn't say a word about a new iPad.  I listened to the entire
 presentation.
 I believe the last two iPads were released in March or April, not the Fall,
 so I suspect if there is going to be a new smaller iPad, it will be early
 next year.
 I have nothing to base that on, other than Apple's history.
 
 Richard
 
 
 
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 Of Lynda Ingraham
 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 7:31 AM
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 Subject: When Will Next Ipad Be Released
 
 Hi Everyone, 
 
 Has there been any mention of when a newer Ipad will be released?  I thought
 I heard some discussion but could absolutely be wrong.  Trying to decide
 whether to buy what the New Ipad AKA Ipad 3 or wait because a newer version
 is going to be released.  
 
 Thank you,
 
 Lynda 
 
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RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello,

I actually think it's a good feature not to have to enter your password. It
is my understanding that you also don't have to put in your Apple Id
password any more when you download a free app. As long as the password is
required when money changes hands I don't see any security issues.


Regards,
Sieghard

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It's accessible, but not as much as on ios5, your not able to update apps
with out sited help.  The way I have worked around this, is I update them in
iTunes, and then sink my phone.  The other thing is, when you attempt to
install an app, it doesn't ask you for your password to your apple ID, this
is a little shaky to me, maybe they will correct it by Wednesday.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:

 There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is 
 inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm 
 hesitant to upgrade is this is the case.
 Thanks.
 
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 I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially 
 in iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a 
 do not disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!
 
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NewsRack Not focussed On Correct Newsfeed

2012-09-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

When I select a newsfeed to read articles, I go to the wrong one. I'm using a 
Braille display, and I use the cursor-routing keys. I can try double-tapping on 
the screen, but I'm hoping not to have to do this.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Teresa



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email attachments that are images of text pdf files

2012-09-16 Thread Jodie Hoger
Hi group. I am after an app that will ocr email attachments that have been sent 
to me at work via mfd machines. This is a common practice across our campuses 
so I receive text files as image pdfs. I really need to be able to read these 
files from my ipad/iphone as I am often on the road and do not have access to 
my laptop with fine reader or adobe pro that converts these files for me. I 
have downloaded several ocr apps however they all seem to only work from taking 
a picture of the print and then converting it which is not meeting my needs. 
Any advice is greatly appreciated. 
Thanks, 
Jo

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RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

2012-09-16 Thread Cristobal
I think there was a posting on Lifehacker or Gizmodo last week outlining how
you could already grab iOS 6 instead of having to wait till the 19th. I
believe it had to do with visiting a website and downloading this or that
file and syncing, etc. I can't recall if they stated whether or not it was a
legitimate means of upgrading or not since I didn't bother reading it all
the way through since I'm happy to wait the few extra days, but just
pointing it out in case there are any feathers to be ruffled with the NDA
and whatnot.


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Of Jonathan Mosen
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like clarification
on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to continue given that
those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be under NDA.

Jonathan 

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Of James Mannion
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: kliph...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in
updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or
reliability issues?

Thanks,
Jim

On 9/16/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially 
 in iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we even have a 
 do not disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday.
 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote:

 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
 know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!

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