RE: Navigating google sheets

[naturelovingmom]

I have sheets oppen and it doesn't seem to work. Both with the display and not, 
and no go. it keeps putting me down the botom where the sheets are. 
Steph

On 16/06/2017 2:44 pm, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> That is the same way Excel works.  Each workbook usually defaults to having 
> three sheets. 
> Your's is probably all on that first sheet. 
> There is a swipe up with three fingers command for the braille display. 
> It is either spacebar+dots 3,4,5,6 or spacebar+dots 1,4,5,6. 
> But that is going to take an awful lot of swipes to get to row 169. 
>
> I've not used Sheets so I don't know if there is a go to cell option 
> somewhere, but that might be worth a Google search. 
>
> Richard 
>
>
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>
> Thank you. Is there a way to do this with a braille display? Also, there's 
> actually 3 sheets along the botom, sheet one, two and three. Don't know how 
> it works, maybe they have more rows or something like that? 
> Steph 
>
> On 16/06/2017 1:38 pm, Brandon Olivares  wrote: 
> > 
> > Okay, basically put focus on the sheet, then scroll down (three fingers 
> > swipe up) until you are at the row you need. If you touch a cell, it'll 
> > announce the coordinates of that cell, and the contents of it. 
> > 
> > Read the info you need, then to insert your link, double tap the cell, then 
> > immediately beneath the sheet you'll hear a field that says “formula bar”, 
> > and it'll say “text field”. Double tap on that and add your link. After you 
> > insert it, flick right and double tap on confirm. 
> > > On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:34 PM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > 
> > > here's what i need to do but I cant work out how. 
> > > 
> > > I need to go to row 169 and get the info from there that I need. Then, 
> > > once I have written my google doc, I need to place the link to that doc 
> > > on that row in a certain column. 
> > > How do I do that? 
> > > Steph 
> > > 
> > > On 16/06/2017 1:30 pm, Brandon Olivares  wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> What exactly do you have trouble with? I find it pretty easy on the 
> > >> iPhone. 
> > >>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:06 AM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hi all, 
> > >>> 
> > >>> I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips on navigating and using 
> > >>> google sheets? How do I search for a row, and how do I add to the 
> > >>> spreadsheet? 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Thanks for your help, 
> > >>> Steph 
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RE: Navigating google sheets

[Richard Turner]

That is the same way Excel works.  Each workbook usually defaults to having 
three sheets.
Your's is probably all on that first sheet.
There is a swipe up with three fingers command for the braille display.
It is either spacebar+dots 3,4,5,6 or spacebar+dots 1,4,5,6.
But that is going to take an awful lot of swipes to get to row 169.

I've not used Sheets so I don't know if there is a go to cell option somewhere, 
but that might be worth a Google search.

Richard


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Subject: Re: Navigating google sheets

Thank you. Is there a way to do this with a braille display? Also, there's 
actually 3 sheets along the botom, sheet one, two and three. Don't know how it 
works, maybe they have more rows or something like that? 
Steph

On 16/06/2017 1:38 pm, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
>
> Okay, basically put focus on the sheet, then scroll down (three fingers swipe 
> up) until you are at the row you need. If you touch a cell, it'll announce 
> the coordinates of that cell, and the contents of it. 
>
> Read the info you need, then to insert your link, double tap the cell, then 
> immediately beneath the sheet you'll hear a field that says “formula bar”, 
> and it'll say “text field”. Double tap on that and add your link. After you 
> insert it, flick right and double tap on confirm. 
> > On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:34 PM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > 
> > here's what i need to do but I cant work out how. 
> > 
> > I need to go to row 169 and get the info from there that I need. Then, once 
> > I have written my google doc, I need to place the link to that doc on that 
> > row in a certain column. 
> > How do I do that? 
> > Steph 
> > 
> > On 16/06/2017 1:30 pm, Brandon Olivares  wrote: 
> >> 
> >> What exactly do you have trouble with? I find it pretty easy on the 
> >> iPhone. 
> >>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:06 AM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Hi all, 
> >>> 
> >>> I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips on navigating and using 
> >>> google sheets? How do I search for a row, and how do I add to the 
> >>> spreadsheet? 
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks for your help, 
> >>> Steph 
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Re: Learning to code for IOS and MAC

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hello,

Swift Playgrounds is an iPad-only app. It works well though; I'm having fun 
going through the course. David Woodbridge does a couple of wonderful demos of 
it on his iSee podcast.

Best,
Anna



> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> I believe there's an app for the iPad called Swift Playgrounds, but I
> don't know how well it works with VoiceOver. This app teaches kids and
> adults how to code an app. I think it is supposed to be rleased for
> the iPhone in iOS 11 but not totally sure.
> 
> Wayne
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> On 6/13/17, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> mac has it's own scripting language, ios is a different beast, so doubt
>> there is a common  product to work for both.   I used to
>> code in C/C++, Pascal, Basic;  and script for one wouldn't necessarily
>> compile let alone run, on another platform.  The languages
>> have all changed now.  It was all clicking on things and clicking on it's
>> things to make it do things...   maybe;  and that's been a
>> while ago.  Writing long and complicated lines of code are long gone, even
>> though it is what we used to get good at.
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Re: Navigating google sheets

[naturelovingmom]

Thank you. Is there a way to do this with a braille display? Also, there's 
actually 3 sheets along the botom, sheet one, two and three. Don't know how it 
works, maybe they have more rows or something like that? 
Steph

On 16/06/2017 1:38 pm, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
>
> Okay, basically put focus on the sheet, then scroll down (three fingers swipe 
> up) until you are at the row you need. If you touch a cell, it'll announce 
> the coordinates of that cell, and the contents of it. 
>
> Read the info you need, then to insert your link, double tap the cell, then 
> immediately beneath the sheet you'll hear a field that says “formula bar”, 
> and it'll say “text field”. Double tap on that and add your link. After you 
> insert it, flick right and double tap on confirm. 
> > On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:34 PM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > 
> > here's what i need to do but I cant work out how. 
> > 
> > I need to go to row 169 and get the info from there that I need. Then, once 
> > I have written my google doc, I need to place the link to that doc on that 
> > row in a certain column. 
> > How do I do that? 
> > Steph 
> > 
> > On 16/06/2017 1:30 pm, Brandon Olivares  wrote: 
> >> 
> >> What exactly do you have trouble with? I find it pretty easy on the 
> >> iPhone. 
> >>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:06 AM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Hi all, 
> >>> 
> >>> I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips on navigating and using 
> >>> google sheets? How do I search for a row, and how do I add to the 
> >>> spreadsheet? 
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks for your help, 
> >>> Steph 
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Re: Navigating google sheets

[Brandon Olivares]

Okay, basically put focus on the sheet, then scroll down (three fingers swipe 
up) until you are at the row you need. If you touch a cell, it'll announce the 
coordinates of that cell, and the contents of it.

Read the info you need, then to insert your link, double tap the cell, then 
immediately beneath the sheet you'll hear a field that says “formula bar”, and 
it'll say “text field”. Double tap on that and add your link. After you insert 
it, flick right and double tap on confirm.
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:34 PM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> here's what i need to do but I cant work out how.
> 
> I need to go to row 169 and get the info from there that I need. Then, once I 
> have written my google doc, I need to place the link to that doc on that row 
> in a certain column.
> How do I do that?
> Steph
> 
> On 16/06/2017 1:30 pm, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
>> 
>> What exactly do you have trouble with? I find it pretty easy on the iPhone. 
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:06 AM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips on navigating and using 
>>> google sheets? How do I search for a row, and how do I add to the 
>>> spreadsheet? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help, 
>>> Steph 
>>> 
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Re: Navigating google sheets

[Brandon Olivares]

Basically you should be able to move your finger around the screen to read the 
rows and columns. If you want to edit one, I believe you double tap it, then 
there should be a text field at the bottom you double tap to edit.
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:34 PM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> here's what i need to do but I cant work out how.
> 
> I need to go to row 169 and get the info from there that I need. Then, once I 
> have written my google doc, I need to place the link to that doc on that row 
> in a certain column.
> How do I do that?
> Steph
> 
> On 16/06/2017 1:30 pm, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
>> 
>> What exactly do you have trouble with? I find it pretty easy on the iPhone. 
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:06 AM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips on navigating and using 
>>> google sheets? How do I search for a row, and how do I add to the 
>>> spreadsheet? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help, 
>>> Steph 
>>> 
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Re: Navigating google sheets

[naturelovingmom]

here's what i need to do but I cant work out how.

I need to go to row 169 and get the info from there that I need. Then, once I 
have written my google doc, I need to place the link to that doc on that row in 
a certain column.
How do I do that?
Steph

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Re: Navigating google sheets

[naturelovingmom]

Google docs is accessible. I use it deaily for my writing. However, I am having 
major problems navigating google sheets.
Steph

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> I’d love this information as well. Google docs and sheets are the bane of my 
> existence these days. 
>
> Shannon 
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Re: Navigating google sheets

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What exactly do you have trouble with? I find it pretty easy on the iPhone.
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:06 AM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi all,
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RE: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mario,

Agreed, I doubt it will make much if any difference for a Voiceover user except 
that if it indeed results in better battery life we of course also benefit from 
that. Here a bit more along the lines of what Daniel already pointed out in the 
form of an article from iMore:

Apple's new adaptive screen refresh technology is going to change how we look 
at devices
If I had to pick the WWDC announcement that made my week, it'd have to be 
Apple's newest display technology, ProMotion. Essentially, it makes the new 
iPad Pro feel faster without compromising on battery life. But simply saying 
"faster" doesn't do justice to how ProMotion is going to not only improve the 
iPad Pro experience — or the experience of Apple's other computing platforms in 
the future.
Here's everything you ever wanted to know about ProMotion — and then some. 
(Because I can't help but geek out about display technology.)

Apple describes it as such:
A new [display] technology that delivers refresh rates of up to 120Hz for fluid 
scrolling, greater responsiveness and smoother motion content. With ProMotion, 
Apple Pencil is even more responsive with an industry-best, 20-millisecond 
latency for even more fluid and natural drawing. ProMotion also improves 
display quality and reduces power consumption by automatically adjusting the 
display refresh rate to match the movement of the content.

In English: ProMotion makes your scrolling look smoother, text crisper, and 
drawing virtually lag-free. And it does it all while saving battery life and 
keeping your video from looking like a bad HDTV set.

Is ProMotion hardware or software?
It's a hardware component of Apple's new iPad Pro displays, though APIs in iOS 
help make it adaptive.

If you want to read more, check out the rest of the imore article: 
https://www.imore.com/promotion

-Original Message-
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Mário Navarro
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.



hi Daniel.

Oh, okay. Thank you for that.
cheers.


Às 23:02 de 15/06/2017, Daniel Miller escreveu:
> Hi. No, ProMotion is a strictly visual adjustment. It will not affect 
> voiceover users in the slightest. There's no need to even worry about it. All 
> the technology does this tell the iPad went to refresh the screen based on 
> what you're doing with it. It's mainly meant for the pencil, and video 
> content.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And I had forgotten the most important and what the world demands.
>> The battery power.
>>
>> I'm sick of having to charge the battery of the normal  iPhone screens to or 
>> 3 times a day...
>> And I don't have to spend more money on an iPhone plus just to have more 
>> battery power...
>> cheers.
>>
>>
>> Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:
>>> Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how 
>>> to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know 
>>> how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the 
>>> bag. Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or 
>>> beginning of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 
>>> public beta and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad 
>>> if you don't like it.
>>> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Greg Wocher
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
>>> iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It 
>>> is a technical limitation of the technology.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> d
 On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




 Hi

 I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
 things.

 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
 screen?
 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
 I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read 
 is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
 Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
 Please, what are your thoughts.
 thanks.
 cheers.

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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Mário Navarro]

hi Daniel.

Oh, okay. Thank you for that.
cheers.


Às 23:02 de 15/06/2017, Daniel Miller escreveu:

Hi. No, ProMotion is a strictly visual adjustment. It will not affect voiceover 
users in the slightest. There's no need to even worry about it. All the 
technology does this tell the iPad went to refresh the screen based on what 
you're doing with it. It's mainly meant for the pencil, and video content.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 15, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:






And I had forgotten the most important and what the world demands.
The battery power.

I'm sick of having to charge the battery of the normal  iPhone screens to or 3 
times a day...
And I don't have to spend more money on an iPhone plus just to have more 
battery power...
cheers.


Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:

Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how to 
make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know how 
useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. Once 
the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning of July 
you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta and try it 
out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't like it.
Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d

On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two things.

1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
screen?
2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
cheers.

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Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:

Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how to 
make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know how 
useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. Once 
the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning of July 
you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta and try it 
out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't like it.
Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d

On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two things.

1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
screen?
2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
cheers.

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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Mário Navarro]

Sieghard
- that's what we all hope. An iPhone 8 with all the new technologies of top.

If it is not this time, I and millions of people will be very 
disappointed and even perhaps will leave Apple...

And Samsung will sell galaxy S8 more and more like water...

Apple has to come with all in this iPhone 8.
a big screen with  powerfull battery and the best technology of top.
That is what we all want and hope...
I hope more RAM with 4GB and of course a new processor Apple 11.
The rest we all know what the world wants in the iPhone 8.
thanks Sieghard

cheers.


Às 01:24 de 16/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:

The Plus models already have a 5.5 inch screen and have had it since the iPhone 
6 Plus.
There are rumours that there will be a new high-end iPhone in the fall with a 
5.8 inch screen which may not actually be physically be larger as it would have 
narrower or no bezel around the screen, but it sounds as if it will also be an 
even more expensive phone as the Plus models already are due to the fact that 
it may have all the latest technologies like OLED screen, wireless charging 
etc. I guess we'll see.

I guess your reasons are all valid, definitely I can see how sighted people 
enjoy the larger screens. For me even the new iPad Pro with the Files app of 
iOS 11 which they announced and which gives you easier access to files is still 
no laptop replacemenb.
But it of course all depends on what you do, if mostly it's consuming media, 
email, maybe Skype or Facetime and so on it might be OK. I use a lot of 
business applications which require Windows and there is just no way any iOS or 
Android tablet at this point could replace a Windows laptop for me.
I bought a very nice laptop with a touch screen last fall and end up never 
using the touch screen because when it comes to Windows I am just so used to 
doing everything with the keyboard.


Regards,
Sieghard

had have a 5.5 inch screen

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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.



Hi sieghard
I always liked to use iPad to have a larger screen, and for all their
characteristics:
Especially with the new iPad pro.
I like to feel use an iPad as a laptop...
I like to be able to take with me total peace of mind for anywhere.
   and be able to do almost with satisfaction.
I like big screens.

I 'm tired of using small screens in all the iPhone  models.
I hope that the iPhone 8 will bring us a screen of 5.5, or 5.8.

The perfect screen for iPhones, for me would be to 5.5, or 5.8.

Despite being blind, I really like to  feel a big screen in front of me.
And because I have more people to live with me in the house,  I want They have 
fun...
I got my iPhone 7 for sale to buy the 8, but only if he bring a screen of 5.5 
or 5.8.

Thanks.
Cheers.


Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:

Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how to 
make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know how 
useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. Once 
the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning of July 
you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta and try it 
out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't like it.
Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d

On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two things.

1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
screen?
2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
cheers.

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A BEGINNER'S GUIDE TO YOUR PHONE'S HEALTH APPS | POPULAR SCIENCE

[M. Taylor]

A beginner's guide to your phone's health apps

How to use Google Fit or Apple Health.
By David Nield 6 hours ago

Both iOS and Android track basic activities automatically.

A plethora of health trackers promise to help you get in shape. But before
you start browsing the options, check out the apps built right into your
phone. Google Fit and Apple Health, which both launched in 2014 on,
respectively, Android and iOS, track your activity through sensors on the
phone itself or through compatible wearables.

While they share a lot of the same basic features, the two apps do differ in
ways that go beyond the interface. Google Fit provides a more basic
steps-and-activity counter, and is available on the web as well as Android
phones and tablets. Apple Health gives you a more comprehensive, full-on
health monitoring service, but only works on Apple devices.

If you've never opened up these apps on your phone before, now's your
opportunity. You can be tracking your steps and counting your calories in no
time, using the device you already have-and getting fitter along the way.
Google Fit setup

Fire up the Google Fit app-if it's not already on your phone, you can
download it here-and log in with your Google account. Once you enter a few
personal details about yourself, you'll be up and running (quite literally,
if you want to celebrate with a jogging session).

You don't need to do anything special to activate or enable Google Fit. It
works automatically in the background: As long as you keep your phone on
you, it will measure your steps as you walk, run, and cycle. If your device
misses something, or you put down your phone during a workout, you can add
activities manually. Just open the app and tap the plus icon in the bottom
right corner of the interface.

To start using the app more mindfully, try setting goals. Tap the plus icon,
choose Add goal, and you can set a target for yourself. These targets could
include, for example, walking a given number of steps, remaining active for
a certain amount of time, or doing several different activities-it's really
up to you. Setting goals makes the Google Fit interface a bit more
interesting, as the app will track your progress and let you know how well
you're doing.
Google Fit

Google Fit sticks to the basics but does them well.

Speaking of the interface, the front screen, called Home, summarizes how
much activity you've done today and how near you are to hitting your goals.
Scroll down the page for a more detailed readout that includes recent
highlights, like that 10-mile hike you took over the weekend.

For even more detail, you can switch to the Timeline. Access it through
through the main Google Fit menu, which you open by tapping the hamburger
button in the top left corner. Timeline breaks down all of your recent
activities individually. You can tap on any of them for more details, and
even view your walks, runs, and bike rides on a map (if your phone was
logging GPS coordinates at the time).

Google Fit can also give you real-time statistics during an activity. Hit
the plus icon, then Start activity, and then select your activity of choice.
You'll see time, steps, calories, distance, and so on as you go. If you're
walking, running, or cycling, you'll hear an audio prompt every time you hit
a mile, although you can disable this digital cheering section in the app
settings if you prefer.

You can also access this information through a web interface. This Google
Fit view shows your goals up top and displays a more detailed breakdown
lower down, but doesn't split the Home and Timeline into separate sections.
You can scroll back through your history, and again you have the option to
add new activities manually via the plus icon.
Taking Google Fit further

Having your phone track your activities as you go is all well and good, but
you don't necessarily want to take your device with you to tackle, say, a
10k run or a soccer game. That's why you should consider syncing a wearable
tracker with your Google Fit account.

Android Wear smartwatches are the obvious place to start: Any Android Wear
watch can track your steps and activity, and some come with embedded GPS
(check the device specs for details) to let you plot your route on a map.
You won't need to carry your phone everywhere with you-instead, everything
syncs up once you get back home.

A number of other wearables also play nice with Google Fit, including bands
from Xiaomi, Under Armour, and Misfit. Unfortunately, Fitbit hasn't made its
trackers compatible with either Google Fit or Apple Health-and of course the
Apple's Watch works with its own platform rather than Google's.
Android Wear

Plenty of Android Wear devices plug right into Google Fit.

You can also pipe extra data into Google Fit from other apps. Sleep As
Android, for instance, can track your sleep and send the data to Google Fit,
while Calorie Counter will help you log your eating habits. Google Fit also
works with popular running and cycling apps 

RE: New siri voices in IOS 11

[Wayne Scott]

I can't wait.  I just hope I remember to switch Siri back to 
American as I have mine on British.  That one sounded more 
tatural than the American.


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Did you seriously pay money to sign up for a developer account? 
In two
or at the most 3 weeks you could get the first public beta for 
free.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On

Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:42 PM
To: Viphone  
wrote:


Hi Ming.
Even if this is true people beta testing IOS 11 cannot discuss.  
I am

not one of them that's why I'm replying.
Have a great day.
Jen


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:29 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone
 wrote:

hi all!
anyone know that in IOS 11 it has some new siri voices.
does the voices also can work in voice over as well?


thanks!
Ming

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RE: Is there a Settings tab in YouTube app?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks for this, Sieghard. Unfortunately, the control I’m looking for wasn’t in 
that Settings area. I suspect maybe I’ll need to go to the desktop  YouTube 
site. I seem to be picking up the sense that the YouTube app is pared down 
compared to the desktop.

Best, Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is there a Settings tab in YouTube app?

Hi Keith,

I have an “Your Account” button at the top left just below the time in the 
status bar. If I double tap on that a window/screen opens with a close button 
at the top left, on that screen “Settings” is a bit further down after the “My 
channels” button and before “Terms and Privacy”, I would say about the middle 
of the screen.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 6:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is there a Settings tab in YouTube app?

Hi,

Running latest public iOS on an iPhone 7 with latest YouTube app.

I’m trying to find without success what I’ve been told is a Settings tab on 
YouTube. I’m trying to change the playback speed to help in learning a song, 
and been told within this Settings tab is such a control. I’ve looked 
everywhere within the YouTube app, including using the item chooser, but 
haven’t been able to track this down.

If anyone can help me with this, I’d very much appreciate it. I’m wondering if 
this tab could be on the iPad app and not on the iPhone app, but I don’t have 
an iPad to look into this.

Thanks in advance, Keith
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RE: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Richard Turner]

The only place I could ever imagine using a touch screen for a Windows machine 
is if it was the Surface Pro and I'm not convinced that would ever truly 
replace a really good laptop.
And, as a totally blind person, I don't personally want an iPad.  Maybe, if 
someone gave me one, an iPad Mini for the extra battery life, but I find the 
extra screen size more annoying than useful.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

The Plus models already have a 5.5 inch screen and have had it since the iPhone 
6 Plus.
There are rumours that there will be a new high-end iPhone in the fall with a 
5.8 inch screen which may not actually be physically be larger as it would have 
narrower or no bezel around the screen, but it sounds as if it will also be an 
even more expensive phone as the Plus models already are due to the fact that 
it may have all the latest technologies like OLED screen, wireless charging 
etc. I guess we'll see.

I guess your reasons are all valid, definitely I can see how sighted people 
enjoy the larger screens. For me even the new iPad Pro with the Files app of 
iOS 11 which they announced and which gives you easier access to files is still 
no laptop replacemenb.
But it of course all depends on what you do, if mostly it's consuming media, 
email, maybe Skype or Facetime and so on it might be OK. I use a lot of 
business applications which require Windows and there is just no way any iOS or 
Android tablet at this point could replace a Windows laptop for me.
I bought a very nice laptop with a touch screen last fall and end up never 
using the touch screen because when it comes to Windows I am just so used to 
doing everything with the keyboard.


Regards,
Sieghard

had have a 5.5 inch screen 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Navarro
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.



Hi sieghard
I always liked to use iPad to have a larger screen, and for all their
characteristics:
Especially with the new iPad pro.
I like to feel use an iPad as a laptop...
I like to be able to take with me total peace of mind for anywhere.
  and be able to do almost with satisfaction.
I like big screens.

I 'm tired of using small screens in all the iPhone  models.
I hope that the iPhone 8 will bring us a screen of 5.5, or 5.8.

The perfect screen for iPhones, for me would be to 5.5, or 5.8.

Despite being blind, I really like to  feel a big screen in front of me.
And because I have more people to live with me in the house,  I want They have 
fun...
I got my iPhone 7 for sale to buy the 8, but only if he bring a screen of 5.5 
or 5.8.

Thanks.
Cheers.


Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:
> Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how 
> to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know 
> how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. 
> Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning 
> of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta 
> and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't 
> like it.
> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.
>
> Hello,
> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
> iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is 
> a technical limitation of the technology.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
> d
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
>> things.
>>
>> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
>> screen?
>> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
>> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read 
>> is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
>> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
>> Please, what are your thoughts.
>> thanks.
>> cheers.
>>
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RE: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Plus models already have a 5.5 inch screen and have had it since the iPhone 
6 Plus.
There are rumours that there will be a new high-end iPhone in the fall with a 
5.8 inch screen which may not actually be physically be larger as it would have 
narrower or no bezel around the screen, but it sounds as if it will also be an 
even more expensive phone as the Plus models already are due to the fact that 
it may have all the latest technologies like OLED screen, wireless charging 
etc. I guess we'll see.

I guess your reasons are all valid, definitely I can see how sighted people 
enjoy the larger screens. For me even the new iPad Pro with the Files app of 
iOS 11 which they announced and which gives you easier access to files is still 
no laptop replacemenb.
But it of course all depends on what you do, if mostly it's consuming media, 
email, maybe Skype or Facetime and so on it might be OK. I use a lot of 
business applications which require Windows and there is just no way any iOS or 
Android tablet at this point could replace a Windows laptop for me.
I bought a very nice laptop with a touch screen last fall and end up never 
using the touch screen because when it comes to Windows I am just so used to 
doing everything with the keyboard.


Regards,
Sieghard

had have a 5.5 inch screen 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Navarro
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.



Hi sieghard
I always liked to use iPad to have a larger screen, and for all their
characteristics:
Especially with the new iPad pro.
I like to feel use an iPad as a laptop...
I like to be able to take with me total peace of mind for anywhere.
  and be able to do almost with satisfaction.
I like big screens.

I 'm tired of using small screens in all the iPhone  models.
I hope that the iPhone 8 will bring us a screen of 5.5, or 5.8.

The perfect screen for iPhones, for me would be to 5.5, or 5.8.

Despite being blind, I really like to  feel a big screen in front of me.
And because I have more people to live with me in the house,  I want They have 
fun...
I got my iPhone 7 for sale to buy the 8, but only if he bring a screen of 5.5 
or 5.8.

Thanks.
Cheers.


Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:
> Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how 
> to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know 
> how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. 
> Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning 
> of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta 
> and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't 
> like it.
> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.
>
> Hello,
> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
> iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is 
> a technical limitation of the technology.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
> d
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
>> things.
>>
>> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
>> screen?
>> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
>> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read 
>> is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
>> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
>> Please, what are your thoughts.
>> thanks.
>> cheers.
>>
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Ah, come on, Mikayla, you just wish you could do it every day *grin*.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Jeez, it took me a while to figure it out, and I truly apologize big time 
Sieghard!But hey, I’m blind; LOL!

Mikayla? BTW: last Halloween I attended a local spaghetti dinner fundraiser  
for the blind, held on the Saturday of Halloween weekend 2016. I entered the 
haloween costume contest, and took home the grand prize. My award winning 
costume? I got completely dressed up in woman’s clothing, heels, hose and a hot 
skirt suit, with short auburn colored wig and appropriate make up, and went as 
a “Blind Date”!

What a PITA walking around in 3 inch heels the whole night! My hat goes off to 
the ladies out there, that pull this off all the time for us guys!
I appreciate it big time ladies!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Now, Mike, if you make a girl out of me again I’ll call you Mikayla which will 
then cause you to experience a gender identity crisis *smile*

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

What I think she is saying is; if you purchase the version where you own it, no 
subscription, it only costs $199.00. Not the original $299.00. I think I’m 
correct with this.
HTH!..Mike

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We 

Re: Navigating google sheets

[Shannon Dyer]

I’d love this information as well. Google docs and sheets are the bane of my 
existence these days.

Shannon
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:06 AM, natureloving...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips on navigating and using 
> google sheets? How do I search for a row, and how do I add to the spreadsheet?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Steph
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[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi, I am using the latest version of facebook with my IPhone.  How do you 
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When I post something, facebook asks me if I want to send the post to my 8 
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never see any of my posts.  How do you change this?  Thanks so much, Andy and 
Shubert
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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Daniel Miller]

Hi. No, ProMotion is a strictly visual adjustment. It will not affect voiceover 
users in the slightest. There's no need to even worry about it. All the 
technology does this tell the iPad went to refresh the screen based on what 
you're doing with it. It's mainly meant for the pencil, and video content.

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And I had forgotten the most important and what the world demands.
> The battery power.
> 
> I'm sick of having to charge the battery of the normal  iPhone screens to or 
> 3 times a day...
> And I don't have to spend more money on an iPhone plus just to have more 
> battery power...
> cheers.
> 
> 
> Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:
>> Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how 
>> to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know 
>> how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. 
>> Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning 
>> of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta 
>> and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't 
>> like it.
>> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Greg Wocher
>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
>> iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It 
>> is a technical limitation of the technology.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Greg Wocher
>> d
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
>>> things.
>>> 
>>> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
>>> screen?
>>> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
>>> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read 
>>> is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
>>> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
>>> Please, what are your thoughts.
>>> thanks.
>>> cheers.
>>> 
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> Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:
>> Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how 
>> to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know 
>> how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. 
>> Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning 
>> of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta 
>> and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't 
>> like it.
>> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Greg Wocher
>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
>> iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It 
>> is a technical limitation of the technology.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Greg Wocher
>> d
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
>>> things.
>>> 
>>> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
>>> 

Re: Learning to code for IOS and MAC

[Wayne Merritt]

I believe there's an app for the iPad called Swift Playgrounds, but I
don't know how well it works with VoiceOver. This app teaches kids and
adults how to code an app. I think it is supposed to be rleased for
the iPhone in iOS 11 but not totally sure.

Wayne

On 6/13/17, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
> mac has it's own scripting language, ios is a different beast, so doubt
> there is a common  product to work for both.   I used to
> code in C/C++, Pascal, Basic;  and script for one wouldn't necessarily
> compile let alone run, on another platform.  The languages
> have all changed now.  It was all clicking on things and clicking on it's
> things to make it do things...   maybe;  and that's been a
> while ago.  Writing long and complicated lines of code are long gone, even
> though it is what we used to get good at.
>
> Sorry I can't be more positive.
> - Original Message -
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> To: "com viphone@googlegroups." ;
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:56 AM
> Subject: Learning to code for IOS and MAC
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there any  accessible way to learn to code for IOS and MAC?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Mário Navarro]

And I had forgotten the most important and what the world demands.
The battery power.

I'm sick of having to charge the battery of the normal  iPhone screens 
to or 3 times a day...
And I don't have to spend more money on an iPhone plus just to have more 
battery power...

cheers.


Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:

Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how to 
make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know how 
useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. Once 
the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning of July 
you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta and try it 
out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't like it.
Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d

On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two things.

1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
screen?
2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
cheers.

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Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:

Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how to 
make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know how 
useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. Once 
the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning of July 
you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta and try it 
out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't like it.
Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d

On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two things.

1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
screen?
2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
cheers.

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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Mário Navarro]

Hi,
I hope so, That  everything works well.

thanks.

cheers.


Às 20:06 de 15/06/2017, Wayne Merritt escreveu:

Since we are still in the beta period, there's no way to know how well
VoiceOver will work with the new Promotion way of moving multiple
items on screen. Unless that is you get the public beta, or wait until
iOS 11 is released in September. Outside of those things, anyone using
the developer betas cannot comment. Personally, I was amazed at how
well moving apps became when iOS 10 was released last year, taking the
concepts to a different level than we had in iOS 9 and earlier. So, I
have no doubt that Apple will make Promotion work as well.

Jmt,
Wayne

On 6/15/17, Mary Otten  wrote:

Based on what I have read, certainly have no personal experience, it seems
like this promotion thing is something that's automatically going to happen,
that is, adjustment behind the scenes, not something the user will do. So
why wouldn't have an effect on VoiceOver? I guess time will tell, but I
would be shocked if it made any difference at all to blind voiceover users.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out
how to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't
know how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of
the bag. Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June
or beginning of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS
11 public beta and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the
iPad if you don't like it.
Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no
the iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to
big. It is a technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d

On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two
things.

1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad
screen?
2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I
read is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
cheers.

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Re: A strange facebook problem

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hello,
I haven't had this problem. Maybe it's a problem with Facebook itself. Not 
sure. Have you tried logging out of your account and logging back in again? 
Maybe the Facebook accessibility team can help.
I wish I knew more to help you. By the way, I'm also using the latest versions 
of everything. That means Facebook and iOS in this case.
Thanks, and I wish I could be of more help.

Jeffrey

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:29 PM, Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello yes, I have been also experiencing this. I have not tried contacting 
> anyone about it. I'm only able to do as you have stated and review others 
> posts. I attributed it to the most recent update as well. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jen .
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A strange facebook problem
> 
> Hi I am using the latest version of the facebook app and latest version of 
> iOS.  this started happening on Monday but I can post a Facebook status in 
> the morning but then if I log into Facebook later in the day to write 
> something area disappears and the only things I am able to do is post a video 
> or a photo or share links and other people stuff.  is this happening to 
> anyone else and if so is there a way to get around this I tried uninstalling 
> and reinstalling the app but no success in fixing this issue Any suggestions 
> please help Jen
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RE: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Mike Ulrich]

I always thought an IPhone with the smallest of screen would be great for me. 
Easier to carry, particularly in my front pocket of pants, jeans or shorts.No 
need for a bigger screen to see the icons, or read pages ETC.
But the one big thing I've noticed on my 128 gig SE, is that whenever I have to 
use the 4 finger single tap on the bottom of the screen; to get down to the 
bottom of a page, I'm just about always hitting the side, thus only enacting a 
three finger single tap!

Oh well's, you just gotta take da Good wit da Bad I spose?
I still like a smaller screen IPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Navarro
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.



Hi sieghard
I always liked to use iPad to have a larger screen, and for all their
characteristics:
Especially with the new iPad pro.
I like to feel use an iPad as a laptop...
I like to be able to take with me total peace of mind for anywhere.
  and be able to do almost with satisfaction.
I like big screens.

I 'm tired of using small screens in all the iPhone  models.
I hope that the iPhone 8 will bring us a screen of 5.5, or 5.8.

The perfect screen for iPhones, for me would be to 5.5, or 5.8.

Despite being blind, I really like to  feel a big screen in front of me.
And because I have more people to live with me in the house,  I want They have 
fun...
I got my iPhone 7 for sale to buy the 8, but only if he bring a screen of 5.5 
or 5.8.

Thanks.
Cheers.


Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:
> Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how 
> to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know 
> how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. 
> Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning 
> of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta 
> and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't 
> like it.
> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.
>
> Hello,
> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
> iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is 
> a technical limitation of the technology.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
> d
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
>> things.
>>
>> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
>> screen?
>> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
>> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read 
>> is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
>> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
>> Please, what are your thoughts.
>> thanks.
>> cheers.
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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Mário Navarro]

Hi sieghard
I always liked to use iPad to have a larger screen, and for all their 
characteristics:

Especially with the new iPad pro.
I like to feel use an iPad as a laptop...
I like to be able to take with me total peace of mind for anywhere.
 and be able to do almost with satisfaction.
I like big screens.

I 'm tired of using small screens in all the iPhone  models.
I hope that the iPhone 8 will bring us a screen of 5.5, or 5.8.

The perfect screen for iPhones, for me would be to 5.5, or 5.8.

Despite being blind, I really like to  feel a big screen in front of me.
And because I have more people to live with me in the house,  I want 
They have fun...
I got my iPhone 7 for sale to buy the 8, but only if he bring a screen 
of 5.5 or 5.8.


Thanks.
Cheers.


Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:

Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how to 
make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know how 
useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. Once 
the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning of July 
you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta and try it 
out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't like it.
Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d

On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two things.

1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
screen?
2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
cheers.

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RE: A strange facebook problem

[Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)]

Hello yes, I have been also experiencing this. I have not tried contacting 
anyone about it. I'm only able to do as you have stated and review others 
posts. I attributed it to the most recent update as well. 

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Subject: A strange facebook problem

Hi I am using the latest version of the facebook app and latest version of iOS. 
 this started happening on Monday but I can post a Facebook status in the 
morning but then if I log into Facebook later in the day to write something 
area disappears and the only things I am able to do is post a video or a photo 
or share links and other people stuff.  is this happening to anyone else and if 
so is there a way to get around this I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the 
app but no success in fixing this issue Any suggestions please help Jen

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A strange facebook problem

[Jen .]

Hi I am using the latest version of the facebook app and latest version of iOS. 
 this started happening on Monday but I can post a Facebook status in the 
morning but then if I log into Facebook later in the day to write something 
area disappears and the only things I am able to do is post a video or a photo 
or share links and other people stuff.  is this happening to anyone else and if 
so is there a way to get around this
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app but no success in fixing this 
issue
Any suggestions please help
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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Wayne Merritt]

Since we are still in the beta period, there's no way to know how well
VoiceOver will work with the new Promotion way of moving multiple
items on screen. Unless that is you get the public beta, or wait until
iOS 11 is released in September. Outside of those things, anyone using
the developer betas cannot comment. Personally, I was amazed at how
well moving apps became when iOS 10 was released last year, taking the
concepts to a different level than we had in iOS 9 and earlier. So, I
have no doubt that Apple will make Promotion work as well.

Jmt,
Wayne

On 6/15/17, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Based on what I have read, certainly have no personal experience, it seems
> like this promotion thing is something that's automatically going to happen,
> that is, adjustment behind the scenes, not something the user will do. So
> why wouldn't have an effect on VoiceOver? I guess time will tell, but I
> would be shocked if it made any difference at all to blind voiceover users.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out
>> how to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't
>> know how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of
>> the bag. Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June
>> or beginning of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS
>> 11 public beta and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the
>> iPad if you don't like it.
>> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Greg Wocher
>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no
>> the iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to
>> big. It is a technical limitation of the technology.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg Wocher
>> d
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two
>>> things.
>>>
>>> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad
>>> screen?
>>> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
>>> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I
>>> read is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
>>> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
>>> Please, what are your thoughts.
>>> thanks.
>>> cheers.
>>>
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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Billy Maynard]

hi,

what does this promotion thing do for hte iPad?  I also have thought about 
getting one  but, this is the first time I've heard of this feature and no 
idea  what it does or is  supposed to do if it's a feature apple is 
introducing in  os 11.


Any info would be appreciated.  I am also gonna see what I can find on my 
own.

Billy Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.


Based on what I have read, certainly have no personal experience, it seems 
like this promotion thing is something that's automatically going to happen, 
that is, adjustment behind the scenes, not something the user will do. So 
why wouldn't have an effect on VoiceOver? I guess time will tell, but I 
would be shocked if it made any difference at all to blind voiceover users.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out 
how to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't 
know how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of 
the bag. Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June 
or beginning of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 
11 public beta and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the 
iPad if you don't like it.

Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no 
the iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to 
big. It is a technical limitation of the technology.


Regards,
Greg Wocher
d

On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
things.


1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
screen?

2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I 
read is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.

Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
cheers.

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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Mike Ulrich]

Jeez, it took me a while to figure it out, and I truly apologize big time 
Sieghard!But hey, I’m blind; LOL!

 

Mikayla? BTW: last Halloween I attended a local spaghetti dinner fundraiser  
for the blind, held on the Saturday of Halloween weekend 2016. I entered the 
haloween costume contest, and took home the grand prize. My award winning 
costume? I got completely dressed up in woman’s clothing, heels, hose and a hot 
skirt suit, with short auburn colored wig and appropriate make up, and went as 
a “Blind Date”!

 

What a PITA walking around in 3 inch heels the whole night! My hat goes off to 
the ladies out there, that pull this off all the time for us guys!

I appreciate it big time ladies!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Now, Mike, if you make a girl out of me again I’ll call you Mikayla which will 
then cause you to experience a gender identity crisis *smile*

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

What I think she is saying is; if you purchase the version where you own it, no 
subscription, it only costs $199.00. Not the original $299.00. I think I’m 
correct with this. 

HTH!..Mike

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Hi,

 

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

 

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

 

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

 

What's New in Version 3.0

 

1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

 

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.

Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories. 

 

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source

Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

 

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,

as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

 

5.  Added Uber to Route type options

The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

 

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity

You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

 

Countries and regions available as of 2017:

USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, 

Game - Zombies, run

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

As subject:  anybody tried this game, is it as good as they say?  someone said 
it was recommended on Applevis site, but didn't find 
it.  Great idea if it works.  Not so sure about subscription charges for the 
fuller version, though understand this is normal.

The idea is to occupy you while encouraging you to exercise - walk/jog/run/etc; 
hope that means exercise bike.  But the fully 
immersive sound thing and story lines to work through sound a good way of doing 
it.

Comments how folks found this.

thanks, BobH.

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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Mary Otten]

Based on what I have read, certainly have no personal experience, it seems like 
this promotion thing is something that's automatically going to happen, that 
is, adjustment behind the scenes, not something the user will do. So why 
wouldn't have an effect on VoiceOver? I guess time will tell, but I would be 
shocked if it made any difference at all to blind voiceover users.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how 
> to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know 
> how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. 
> Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning 
> of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta 
> and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't 
> like it.
> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad? 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Greg Wocher
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.
> 
> Hello,
> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
> iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is 
> a technical limitation of the technology.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
> d
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
>> things.
>> 
>> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
>> screen?
>> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
>> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read 
>> is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
>> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
>> Please, what are your thoughts.
>> thanks.
>> cheers.
>> 
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you, Richard!





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:33 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Well, as I said, the technology is here, just not widely available.

Do a google search for iBeacons, if you add BlindSquare to the search you can 
find lots of stories about how they are being used.

Apparently, the London Underground subway system is installing them, the San 
Francisco Airport, a mall I think in Toronto, Canada, and more.

You might also search for Seeing Eye and iBeacons, but that is so new, I’m not 
sure what you will find.

Once you have more information about them, you might want to talk to your local 
mall manager to see if they would look into installing them as an ADA provision.



HTH,

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:16 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi Rich!

I’m not kidding but rather looking for any possible solution because I get 
completely lost being in the mall.

Not too long ago GPS would be considered a miracle but it’s widely available 
and even accessible now.

Lets hope the sky rocketing science will come up with something helpful soon 
enough.

Thanks,

Anna







From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,

I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.

That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.

But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.



Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.



Later,

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Thank you very much Richard!

You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.

I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.

Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.

If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.

But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.

I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.

I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.

I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.

I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.

Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.

Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.

There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.

I hope all this is useful.

Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, 

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you, Sieghard!





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:09 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi Richard,



I don’t think Anna was joking, but of course you are correct in saying that 
this is not something that is currently possible with GPS technology alone 
especially if you are indoors where the signal is less precise or may even be 
non-existant as, for example, it would be the case in an underground mall or 
most likely the first floor of a multi-level mall.

I think also it will take a few more years, but I also think that this is 
coming and that it will first happen at airports where often even sighted 
people get confused especially at airports with multiple terminals which are 
often far apart. Many asian airports such as Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo and so on 
require you to take a train from one terminal to another and they might be as 
much as a mile or so apart.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:05 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,

I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.

That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.

But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.



Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.



Later,

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Thank you very much Richard!

You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.

I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.

Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.

If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.

But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.

I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.

I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.

I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.

I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.

Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.

Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.

There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.

I hope all this is useful.

Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.

Richard





(Sent from the iPod 

Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Mário Navarro]

Hi, Greg. Thanks!
Let's see if someone  has this new iPad and can tell us something about 
VO and this new technology promotion screen.

I'm not gonna risk without knowing if VO works fine with promotion scrreen.
thanks.
cheers.




Às 18:50 de 15/06/2017, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d

On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two things.

1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
screen?
2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
cheers.

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RE: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out how to 
make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't know how 
useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of the bag. Once 
the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June or beginning of July 
you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS 11 public beta and try it 
out. I believe you have 30 days to return the iPad if you don't like it.
Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad? 

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
> things.
> 
> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
> screen?
> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
> that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
> Please, what are your thoughts.
> thanks.
> cheers.
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Now, Mike, if you make a girl out of me again I’ll call you Mikayla which will 
then cause you to experience a gender identity crisis *smile*

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

What I think she is saying is; if you purchase the version where you own it, no 
subscription, it only costs $199.00. Not the original $299.00. I think I’m 
correct with this.
HTH!..Mike

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

5.  Added Uber to Route type options
The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity
You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

Countries and regions available as of 2017:
USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.

Regards,
Sieghard
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

I don’t think Anna was joking, but of course you are correct in saying that 
this is not something that is currently possible with GPS technology alone 
especially if you are indoors where the signal is less precise or may even be 
non-existant as, for example, it would be the case in an underground mall or 
most likely the first floor of a multi-level mall.
I think also it will take a few more years, but I also think that this is 
coming and that it will first happen at airports where often even sighted 
people get confused especially at airports with multiple terminals which are 
often far apart. Many asian airports such as Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo and so on 
require you to take a train from one terminal to another and they might be as 
much as a mile or so apart.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,
I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.
That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.
But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.

Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.

Later,
Richard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Thank you very much Richard!
You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.
I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.
Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.
If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.
But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.
I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.
I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.
I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.
I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.
Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.
Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.
There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.
I hope all this is useful.
Richard


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:
Thanks Richard!
$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?
Do you think that GPS is good enough?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.
Richard


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:
Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

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RE: Is there a Settings tab in YouTube app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Keith,

I have an “Your Account” button at the top left just below the time in the 
status bar. If I double tap on that a window/screen opens with a close button 
at the top left, on that screen “Settings” is a bit further down after the “My 
channels” button and before “Terms and Privacy”, I would say about the middle 
of the screen.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Is there a Settings tab in YouTube app?

Hi,

Running latest public iOS on an iPhone 7 with latest YouTube app.

I’m trying to find without success what I’ve been told is a Settings tab on 
YouTube. I’m trying to change the playback speed to help in learning a song, 
and been told within this Settings tab is such a control. I’ve looked 
everywhere within the YouTube app, including using the item chooser, but 
haven’t been able to track this down.

If anyone can help me with this, I’d very much appreciate it. I’m wondering if 
this tab could be on the iPad app and not on the iPhone app, but I don’t have 
an iPad to look into this.

Thanks in advance, Keith
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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
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> 
> Hi
> 
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> things.
> 
> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
> screen?
> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
> that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
> Please, what are your thoughts.
> thanks.
> cheers.
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Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no the 
iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to big. It is a 
technical limitation of the technology.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
d
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
> things.
> 
> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad 
> screen?
> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I read is 
> that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.
> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
> Please, what are your thoughts.
> thanks.
> cheers.
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RE: Withings transitions to Nokia: all Withings device owners should contact them now to lobby for better accessibility

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have found out that this person’s Twitter handle is @SedHutch.
I guess I will try to install Twitter on my phone, I do have an account, but 
just haven’t found much use for it so far, as far as I am concerned it has the 
potential of being just another time-waster, but I guess in some ways it could 
be useful.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Withings transitions to Nokia: all Withings device owners should 
contact them now to lobby for better accessibility

X since Nokia is now in the business of making android phones, let us hope that 
they remain platform agnostic when it comes to this aspect of their business, 
i.e. the health stuff.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
Hi List,

I just received an email with news I hadn’t heard before. Apparently Withings 
merged with or was bought out by Nokia and this summer the transition from 
Withings to Nokia will take place. Below is an article about this. At this 
point the Withings Healthmate app is more or less accessible, but can 
definitely do with improvements. I own a Withings “Body” smartscale as well as 
the Withings “Thermo” body thermometer. The thermometer actually has its own 
app, again it’s accessible but with a few challenges. I hope that maybe down 
the road all Withings devices will be supported by a single app and I think now 
is a good time for all of us who own Withings devices to contact the company 
and make sure they don’t forget accessibility, it would be a shame if Nokia 
released a new app which would make all these investmenet into previously 
accessible devices worthless if the app becomes inaccessible. Hopefully it will 
become much more accessible, but instead of waiting to see if this happens 
please join me in requesting this. One statement in the article jumped out at 
me “You can be sure that our priority remains the same: empowering you to live 
a healthier life”. Let’s all remind Withings and Nokia that that “you” also 
includes millions of people and users of such devices who have physical 
disabilities and in some way especially that group should be a priority for a 
company who makes health and medical devices.
The article was written by somebody called “Cédric Hutchings”, when I clicked 
on his/her name I found out that he/she is “VP of Digital Health at Nokia & 
co-founder Withings. Passionate about health, wellness, and beautiful, useful 
things”. I will try to obtain a contact email for this person, if some of you 
who are more active on Twitter can find out how to tweet this person please 
post it here. Below now the article:

Last year Withings joined Nokia with a shared vision: to help you take care of 
your health with beautiful devices that fit seamlessly into everyday life.
We are excited to announce that in early summer 2017, our award-winning range 
of products will transition to the Nokia brand. Nokia is a global brand 
synonymous with innovation, connectivity and great design—values that Withings 
shares.
The name change is just the beginning. We aim to take our vision of connected 
health even further with a number of exciting developments that will start 
rolling out this summer. We can’t wait to share with you a complete redesign of 
our Health Mate app featuring unique coaching programs, and the debut of our 
Patient Care solution, which revolutionizes the relationship between caregivers 
and patients.
You can be sure that our priority remains the same: empowering you to live a 
healthier life. Existing Withings products will continue to be supported with 
updates and improvements, all your data will still be available in our apps, 
and our team is committed to providing you with the best quality of service 
possible.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Withings transitions to Nokia: all Withings device owners should contact them now to lobby for better accessibility

[Mary Otten]

X since Nokia is now in the business of making android phones, let us hope that 
they remain platform agnostic when it comes to this aspect of their business, 
i.e. the health stuff.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I just received an email with news I hadn’t heard before. Apparently Withings 
> merged with or was bought out by Nokia and this summer the transition from 
> Withings to Nokia will take place. Below is an article about this. At this 
> point the Withings Healthmate app is more or less accessible, but can 
> definitely do with improvements. I own a Withings “Body” smartscale as well 
> as the Withings “Thermo” body thermometer. The thermometer actually has its 
> own app, again it’s accessible but with a few challenges. I hope that maybe 
> down the road all Withings devices will be supported by a single app and I 
> think now is a good time for all of us who own Withings devices to contact 
> the company and make sure they don’t forget accessibility, it would be a 
> shame if Nokia released a new app which would make all these investmenet into 
> previously accessible devices worthless if the app becomes inaccessible. 
> Hopefully it will become much more accessible, but instead of waiting to see 
> if this happens please join me in requesting this. One statement in the 
> article jumped out at me “You can be sure that our priority remains the same: 
> empowering you to live a healthier life”. Let’s all remind Withings and Nokia 
> that that “you” also includes millions of people and users of such devices 
> who have physical disabilities and in some way especially that group should 
> be a priority for a company who makes health and medical devices.
> The article was written by somebody called “Cédric Hutchings”, when I clicked 
> on his/her name I found out that he/she is “VP of Digital Health at Nokia & 
> co-founder Withings. Passionate about health, wellness, and beautiful, useful 
> things”. I will try to obtain a contact email for this person, if some of you 
> who are more active on Twitter can find out how to tweet this person please 
> post it here. Below now the article:
>  
> Last year Withings joined Nokia with a shared vision: to help you take care 
> of your health with beautiful devices that fit seamlessly into everyday life.
> We are excited to announce that in early summer 2017, our award-winning range 
> of products will transition to the Nokia brand. Nokia is a global brand 
> synonymous with innovation, connectivity and great design—values that 
> Withings shares.
> The name change is just the beginning. We aim to take our vision of connected 
> health even further with a number of exciting developments that will start 
> rolling out this summer. We can’t wait to share with you a complete redesign 
> of our Health Mate app featuring unique coaching programs, and the debut of 
> our Patient Care solution, which revolutionizes the relationship between 
> caregivers and patients.
> You can be sure that our priority remains the same: empowering you to live a 
> healthier life. Existing Withings products will continue to be supported with 
> updates and improvements, all your data will still be available in our apps, 
> and our team is committed to providing you with the best quality of service 
> possible.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Richard Turner]

Well, as I said, the technology is here, just not widely available.
Do a google search for iBeacons, if you add BlindSquare to the search you can 
find lots of stories about how they are being used.
Apparently, the London Underground subway system is installing them, the San 
Francisco Airport, a mall I think in Toronto, Canada, and more.
You might also search for Seeing Eye and iBeacons, but that is so new, I’m not 
sure what you will find.
Once you have more information about them, you might want to talk to your local 
mall manager to see if they would look into installing them as an ADA provision.

HTH,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi Rich!
I’m not kidding but rather looking for any possible solution because I get 
completely lost being in the mall.
Not too long ago GPS would be considered a miracle but it’s widely available 
and even accessible now.
Lets hope the sky rocketing science will come up with something helpful soon 
enough.
Thanks,
Anna



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,
I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.
That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.
But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.

Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.

Later,
Richard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Thank you very much Richard!
You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.
I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.
Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.
If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.
But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.
I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.
I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.
I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.
I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.
Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.
Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.
There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.
I hope all this is useful.
Richard


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:
Thanks Richard!
$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?
Do you think that GPS is good enough?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about 

Withings transitions to Nokia: all Withings device owners should contact them now to lobby for better accessibility

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi List,

I just received an email with news I hadn't heard before. Apparently Withings 
merged with or was bought out by Nokia and this summer the transition from 
Withings to Nokia will take place. Below is an article about this. At this 
point the Withings Healthmate app is more or less accessible, but can 
definitely do with improvements. I own a Withings "Body" smartscale as well as 
the Withings "Thermo" body thermometer. The thermometer actually has its own 
app, again it's accessible but with a few challenges. I hope that maybe down 
the road all Withings devices will be supported by a single app and I think now 
is a good time for all of us who own Withings devices to contact the company 
and make sure they don't forget accessibility, it would be a shame if Nokia 
released a new app which would make all these investmenet into previously 
accessible devices worthless if the app becomes inaccessible. Hopefully it will 
become much more accessible, but instead of waiting to see if this happens 
please join me in requesting this. One statement in the article jumped out at 
me "You can be sure that our priority remains the same: empowering you to live 
a healthier life". Let's all remind Withings and Nokia that that "you" also 
includes millions of people and users of such devices who have physical 
disabilities and in some way especially that group should be a priority for a 
company who makes health and medical devices.
The article was written by somebody called "Cédric Hutchings", when I clicked 
on his/her name I found out that he/she is "VP of Digital Health at Nokia & 
co-founder Withings. Passionate about health, wellness, and beautiful, useful 
things". I will try to obtain a contact email for this person, if some of you 
who are more active on Twitter can find out how to tweet this person please 
post it here. Below now the article:

Last year Withings joined Nokia with a shared vision: to help you take care of 
your health with beautiful devices that fit seamlessly into everyday life.
We are excited to announce that in early summer 2017, our award-winning range 
of products will transition to the Nokia brand. Nokia is a global brand 
synonymous with innovation, connectivity and great design-values that Withings 
shares.
The name change is just the beginning. We aim to take our vision of connected 
health even further with a number of exciting developments that will start 
rolling out this summer. We can't wait to share with you a complete redesign of 
our Health Mate app featuring unique coaching programs, and the debut of our 
Patient Care solution, which revolutionizes the relationship between caregivers 
and patients.
You can be sure that our priority remains the same: empowering you to live a 
healthier life. Existing Withings products will continue to be supported with 
updates and improvements, all your data will still be available in our apps, 
and our team is committed to providing you with the best quality of service 
possible.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5.

[Mário Navarro]

Hi

I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two 
things.


1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the 
iPad screen?

2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature?
I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I 
read is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch.

Will this change with the coming of IOS 11?
Please, what are your thoughts.
thanks.
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Hi Rich!

I’m not kidding but rather looking for any possible solution because I get 
completely lost being in the mall.

Not too long ago GPS would be considered a miracle but it’s widely available 
and even accessible now.

Lets hope the sky rocketing science will come up with something helpful soon 
enough.

Thanks,

Anna







From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,

I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.

That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.

But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.



Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.



Later,

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Thank you very much Richard!

You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.

I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.

Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.

If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.

But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.

I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.

I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.

I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.

I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.

Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.

Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.

There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.

I hope all this is useful.

Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.

Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,



For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.
That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.
But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.

Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.

Later,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Thank you very much Richard!
You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.
I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.
Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.
If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.
But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.
I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.
I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.
I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.
I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.
Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.
Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.
There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.
I hope all this is useful.
Richard


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:
Thanks Richard!
$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?
Do you think that GPS is good enough?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:
Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of 

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you very much Richard!

You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.

I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.

Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.

If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.

But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.

I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.

I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.

I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.

I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.

Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.

Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.

There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.

I hope all this is useful.

Richard







(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.

Richard









(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,



For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:



Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!



Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.



What's New in Version 3.0



1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.



2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search 

Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Richard Turner]

I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.
If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.
But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.
I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.
I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.
I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.
I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.
Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.
Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.
There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.
I hope all this is useful.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Thanks Richard!
$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?
Do you think that GPS is good enough?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:
Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We 

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Mike Ulrich]

What I think she is saying is; if you purchase the version where you own it, no 
subscription, it only costs $199.00. Not the original $299.00. I think I’m 
correct with this. 

HTH!..Mike

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Hi,

 

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

 

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

 

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

 

What's New in Version 3.0

 

1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

 

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.

Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories. 

 

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source

Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

 

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,

as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

 

5.  Added Uber to Route type options

The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

 

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity

You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

 

Countries and regions available as of 2017:

USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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Navigating google sheets

[naturelovingmom]

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips on navigating and using google 
sheets? How do I search for a row, and how do I add to the spreadsheet?

Thanks for your help,
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.

Richard







(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,



For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:



Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!



Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.



What's New in Version 3.0



1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.



2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.

Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.



3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source

Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.



4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,

as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!



5.  Added Uber to Route type options

The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.



6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity

You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.



Countries and regions available as of 2017:

USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.



Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Richard Turner]

There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

5.  Added Uber to Route type options
The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity
You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

Countries and regions available as of 2017:
USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.

Regards,
Sieghard
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,



For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:



Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!



Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.



What's New in Version 3.0



1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.



2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.

Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.



3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source

Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.



4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,

as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!



5.  Added Uber to Route type options

The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.



6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity

You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.



Countries and regions available as of 2017:

USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.



Regards,

Sieghard

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Is there a Settings tab in YouTube app?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Running latest public iOS on an iPhone 7 with latest YouTube app.

I'm trying to find without success what I've been told is a Settings tab on 
YouTube. I'm trying to change the playback speed to help in learning a song, 
and been told within this Settings tab is such a control. I've looked 
everywhere within the YouTube app, including using the item chooser, but 
haven't been able to track this down.

If anyone can help me with this, I'd very much appreciate it. I'm wondering if 
this tab could be on the iPad app and not on the iPhone app, but I don't have 
an iPad to look into this.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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