date:20150701

I never received an invitation or a response 
to my invitation request.  I would have purchased
 one.  at that price.   on On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Brian Fischler 
brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

 Larry after asking for an invitation to buy one did you eventually receive 
 the opportunity to buy one, and place the order? It is kind of a two step 
 process asking for an invite then receiving the invite after a few weeks and 
 placing your order when you receive the email invite. I think do to the 
 debacle of the Fire phone Amazon did not want to manufacture a lot of the 
 Echos in case the demand was limited.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April and 
 there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  Since the 
 echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via the 
 iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability to 
 do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I would 
 be very interested to know what your friend is able to do with Bluetooth 
 from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, 
 you can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first bluetooth 
 speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their iPhone VO to 
 play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to MLV At Bat 
 games through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there is no way to 
 delete items that you have added to your to do list and shopping list. I 
 tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone app and then on 
 safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it just kept swapping 
 the item I clicked delete from one list to the other so taking a item on 
 the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. 
 The button next to delete is move to the other list so obviously some 
 kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any luck with any of this 
 please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

What I meant is the echo does not use Apple airplay service. It relies on 
Bluetooth. That's all.
Mary


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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 Not sure what you mean does not work with air play as I just got it all 
 working and tried using Siri with the new Apple Music I said play Bon Jovi, 
 and sure enough it all worked and is playing over the Echo pretty cool. Now I 
 do not think you can say to Echo Alexxa play Bon Jovi on Apple Music. I think 
 you need to use the iPhone to get it started, but then you can use the verbal 
 commands or remote to skip songs and change volume and such. Actually I am so 
 impressed with the remote as I think it is the first remote I have owned for 
 anything where you do not need to point it at the device or even be in the 
 same room, very cool remote which I have been using to speak in to with a 
 loud air conditioner on in the room. Now that I have learned VO does work 
 over the Echo completely different user experience. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The echo at this time definitely does not work with airplay. I would not 
 hold my breath waiting for it to do so, as that is probably not what Amazon 
 has in mind.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April and 
 there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  Since 
 the echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will receive 
 one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability 
 to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I 
 would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do with 
 Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, 
 you can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first 
 bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their 
 iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to 
 MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there 
 is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do list and 
 shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone 
 app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it 
 just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to the other 
 so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved 
 it to the to do list. The button next to delete is move to the other 
 list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any 
 luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Larry after I asked for an invitation via the amazon website it took like a 
month or a little longer before I received the opportunity to order it I placed 
my order on May 27 and just received it yesterday. So as long as you are sure 
you asked for the invite to buy one it should come eventually then you got 
about a month wait after that.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 I never received an invitation or a response 
 to my invitation request.  I would have purchased
 one.  at that price.   on On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Brian Fischler 
 brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Larry after asking for an invitation to buy one did you eventually receive 
 the opportunity to buy one, and place the order? It is kind of a two step 
 process asking for an invite then receiving the invite after a few weeks and 
 placing your order when you receive the email invite. I think do to the 
 debacle of the Fire phone Amazon did not want to manufacture a lot of the 
 Echos in case the demand was limited.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April and 
 there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  Since 
 the echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will receive 
 one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability 
 to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I 
 would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do with 
 Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, 
 you can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first 
 bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their 
 iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to 
 MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there 
 is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do list and 
 shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone 
 app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it 
 just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to the other 
 so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved 
 it to the to do list. The button next to delete is move to the other 
 list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any 
 luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Artist Apple Music

Start station means that Apple music will start a custom radio station like 
iTunes radio used to, based on the artist that you are double tapping on the 
more button for. That was a bad sentence, I hope you got when I was getting at.
Mary


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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 Is it possible to sort by artist in «my music» in the Apple Music App? For 
 example the artist Marcus Miller under artist in my music. And when i double 
 click Marcus Miller, i can see all his albums chronologic from the newest to 
 the oldest. How do you do to accomplish this? 
 
 What is «start station» under the «more» option?
 
 What is «follow»?
 
 Take care
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Hey Mary will have to play around with it later disconnecting wise, no big deal 
as long as I know the volume goes to zero, right now I am listening to a MLB At 
Bat game over the echo, would be nice if eventually an tell Echo to launch MLB 
At Bat on the iPhone but not sure that will ever happen Just happy to see you 
can play an audio like Downcast or Apple Music on the Echo as I do not really 
use Prime Music as I find their offerings very limited. you c
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Now I am curious. When you disconnected the iPhone from Echo by turning 
 Bluetooth off, did your volume go crazy again? I did it by telling Alexa to 
 disconnect, and my volume went down, both the regular volume and voiceover 
 volume. Maybe disconnecting Bluetooth or turning it off, on the iPhone, would 
 work better.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Mary just saw this one. All I did was say Alexxa pair, then the Echo 
 says after a few seconds in pair mode turn the volume up on your iPhone as 
 it defaults to zero go to settings on your iPhone and bluetooth and select 
 Echo. To unfair just turn bluetooth off, no need to use the app for this. 
 Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 How did you pair your echo with your iPhone? Did you just turn Bluetooth on 
 on the iPhone then tell Alexa to pair? Or did you have to use the app or 
 the Mac or whatever?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes agreed it does do all that and I was able to get something from Tune 
 In to play and i did not have to log in to tune in or anything but I do 
 have tune in pro. The main reason I got it was to quickly use with MLB At 
 Bat as my friend who does not use VO showed that feature off to me. 
 Unfortunately since pairing the Echo with the iPhone seems to knock out VO 
 it is not something I can do unless someone who uses VO has figured out a 
 work around. Am going to play with it more today to see what I can figure 
 out but tried it twice and both times VO disappeared, and I had to turn 
 bluetooth off on the iPhone to then get VO back.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 You can listen to podcasts on the echo. You can also connect and I heart 
 account, or establish one,. I did it with the Mac using the URL for the 
 Echo site. It is still limited, but it isn't as bad as just being able to 
 play prime music I think you are also supposed to be able to connect your 
 tune in account, and if you have favorites, they are supposed to go to 
 the top of the search list when Alexa searches using to noon. And, there 
 is the  news brief, weather forecasts, and other general information. I 
 hope it will get better.
 Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same 
 day is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can 
 access is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the 
 Echo is pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I 
 sent them an email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim 
 they are passing my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo 
 via the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to 
 do with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are 
 a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone 
 to the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As 
 for your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of 
 strange in that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing 
 and praying, and eventually, you can probably get your news flash 
 list set up the way you wanted. But forget that to do and the

Re: Artist Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread hebertisaac99

Have you tried this?  First go to settings.  Next go to music.  Next go to sort 
albums. Then choose artist.  

Sent from Isaac's iPhone 


 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 Is it possible to sort by artist in «my music» in the Apple Music App? For 
 example the artist Marcus Miller under artist in my music. And when i double 
 click Marcus Miller, i can see all his albums chronologic from the newest to 
 the oldest. How do you do to accomplish this? 
 
 What is «start station» under the «more» option?
 
 What is «follow»?
 
 Take care
 
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Re: Artist Apple Music

Start station generates a custom radio station based on that artist or 
song. Follow allows you to follow that artist on Connect.


On 01/07/2015 19:27, hebertisaa...@gmail.com wrote:

Have you tried this?  First go to settings.  Next go to music.  Next go to sort 
albums. Then choose artist.

Sent from Isaac's iPhone



On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Is it possible to sort by artist in «my music» in the Apple Music App? For 
example the artist Marcus Miller under artist in my music. And when i double 
click Marcus Miller, i can see all his albums chronologic from the newest to 
the oldest. How do you do to accomplish this?

What is «start station» under the «more» option?

What is «follow»?

Take care

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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

2015-07-01 Thread Amy Ruell

Call Amazon again. They lost my initial request.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April and 
 there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  Since the 
 echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via the 
 iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability to do 
 anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I would be 
 very interested to know what your friend is able to do with Bluetooth from 
 their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo connected 
 and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, you 
 can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first bluetooth 
 speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their iPhone VO to 
 play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to MLV At Bat games 
 through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there is no way to delete 
 items that you have added to your to do list and shopping list. I tried 
 clicking the delete button both on the iPhone app and then on safari on 
 th emac, but instead of deleting items it just kept swapping the item I 
 clicked delete from one list to the other so taking a item on the 
 shopping list and instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. The 
 button next to delete is move to the other list so obviously some kind of 
 a focus issue. If anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let 
 us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Hi Amy I ran in to trouble connecting to my wifi on the mac as the Amazon 
website kept causing VO to get stuck in a busy busy, but I was able to connect 
to my wifi network using the amazon echo app, so try the app
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Amy Ruell aru...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I just got my echo and have very little time to get set up. Did you just go 
 to the Amazon website to get started? Is that how you got instructions on how 
 to use and configure the echo? Thanks very much.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 Not sure what you mean does not work with air play as I just got it all 
 working and tried using Siri with the new Apple Music I said play Bon Jovi, 
 and sure enough it all worked and is playing over the Echo pretty cool. Now 
 I do not think you can say to Echo Alexxa play Bon Jovi on Apple Music. I 
 think you need to use the iPhone to get it started, but then you can use the 
 verbal commands or remote to skip songs and change volume and such. Actually 
 I am so impressed with the remote as I think it is the first remote I have 
 owned for anything where you do not need to point it at the device or even 
 be in the same room, very cool remote which I have been using to speak in to 
 with a loud air conditioner on in the room. Now that I have learned VO does 
 work over the Echo completely different user experience. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The echo at this time definitely does not work with airplay. I would not 
 hold my breath waiting for it to do so, as that is probably not what Amazon 
 has in mind.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April 
 and there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  
 Since the echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will 
 receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for 
 your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in 
 that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, 
 and eventually, you can probably get your news flash list set up the 
 way you wanted. But forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all 
 the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility act together 
 sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and 
 some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I 
 wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. 
 One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this 
 completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the 
 first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get 
 their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can 
 listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed 
 is there is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do 
 list and shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the 
 iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting 
 items it just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to 
 the other so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of 
 deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to delete is 
 move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If 
 anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

2015-07-01 Thread May McDonald

What you can do to get your IPhone and echo to play together through bluetooth 
is tell your echo to pair. This will connect it via bluetooth. It will play 
everything through the echo including voiceover. According to my friend it 
won't do things like whats app through it.

When you want to disconnect from your phone tell your echo to disconnect.

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 You can listen to podcasts on the echo. You can also connect and I heart 
 account, or establish one,. I did it with the Mac using the URL for the Echo 
 site. It is still limited, but it isn't as bad as just being able to play 
 prime music I think you are also supposed to be able to connect your tune in 
 account, and if you have favorites, they are supposed to go to the top of the 
 search list when Alexa searches using to noon. And, there is the  news brief, 
 weather forecasts, and other general information. I hope it will get better.
 Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same day 
 is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can access 
 is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the Echo is 
 pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I sent them an 
 email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim they are passing 
 my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability 
 to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I 
 would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do with 
 Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, 
 you can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first 
 bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their 
 iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to 
 MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there 
 is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do list and 
 shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone 
 app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it 
 just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to the other 
 so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved 
 it to the to do list. The button next to delete is move to the other 
 list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any 
 luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Fairly Major Hardware issue with IOS 8.4

Like many on this list I am constantly using my iPhone for almost everything. 
Therefore I need to charge is a few times a day, and even sleep with my phone 
falling asleep to podcasts or something. I had 7 months ago purchased two 10 
foot lighting cord chargers on Amazon. I recall the description  on Amazon 
claiming they were Apple certified and I am going to go in to my account to see 
if anything has been posted about them since the latest IOS update. As since I 
installed IOS 8.4 on both my iPad and iPhone the lighting chargers no longer 
work as they get the error message that says something like the cable is not 
compatible with Apple or something along that line. You can click ok on the 
message to get it to go away but even if you do the cable will not charge the 
phone. You can unplug and plug back in but you keep getting the error message 
making the chargers absolutely worthless. Anyone else having charging issues 
with lighting cords they bought on Amazon? Update and Lighting Chargers bought 
on Amazon

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Opting out of apple music after end of trial question?

2015-07-01 Thread Jan Kleinhans

Hi

The subject says it all really.  When I activated the trial period, it informed 
me that, and this is the part I missed somehow, if automatic update is not 
turned off in your music account, you will go on and of course pay the 
subscription.  I could not find any way in my account where you could choose to 
opt out should you want to do so after the trial period.  What should I be 
looking for when the time comes for that?  It was rather strange that you had 
to choose a plan in any event, even after activating the free trial button, and 
that confused me some what.  Any help appreciated with this.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

2015-07-01 Thread May McDonald

Hey Bryan. Check your audio ducking to make sure it's not on?

Also, my friend said he just needed to turn up the volume on either the IPhone 
or the echo the first time he did it.

Good luck.

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes agreed it does do all that and I was able to get something from Tune In 
 to play and i did not have to log in to tune in or anything but I do have 
 tune in pro. The main reason I got it was to quickly use with MLB At Bat as 
 my friend who does not use VO showed that feature off to me. Unfortunately 
 since pairing the Echo with the iPhone seems to knock out VO it is not 
 something I can do unless someone who uses VO has figured out a work around. 
 Am going to play with it more today to see what I can figure out but tried it 
 twice and both times VO disappeared, and I had to turn bluetooth off on the 
 iPhone to then get VO back.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 You can listen to podcasts on the echo. You can also connect and I heart 
 account, or establish one,. I did it with the Mac using the URL for the Echo 
 site. It is still limited, but it isn't as bad as just being able to play 
 prime music I think you are also supposed to be able to connect your tune in 
 account, and if you have favorites, they are supposed to go to the top of 
 the search list when Alexa searches using to noon. And, there is the  news 
 brief, weather forecasts, and other general information. I hope it will get 
 better.
 Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same day 
 is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can access 
 is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the Echo is 
 pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I sent them an 
 email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim they are 
 passing my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for 
 your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in 
 that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, 
 and eventually, you can probably get your news flash list set up the 
 way you wanted. But forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all 
 the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility act together 
 sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and 
 some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I 
 wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. 
 One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this 
 completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the 
 first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get 
 their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can 
 listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed 
 is there is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do 
 list and shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the 
 iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting 
 items it just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to 
 the other so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of 
 deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to delete is 
 move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If 
 anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Opting out of apple music after end of trial question?

2015-07-01 Thread Grant

It is in the iTunes and App Store section in the settings app. Double-tap on 
your Apple ID, and select “view account”. Confirm your password, then on the 
page that appears, find and double-tap on “subscriptions”. You will now be in a 
screen that lists all recurring subscriptions charged by the iTunes Store. One 
of those will be Apple Music. If you double-tap on that subscription, you will 
be on a page that has a checkbox controlling auto-renewal. If you uncheck that 
box and save your changes (I think you select a “done” button), you should be 
good to go.

Grant

On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:

Hi
 
The subject says it all really.  When I activated the trial period, it informed 
me that, and this is the part I missed somehow, if automatic update is not 
turned off in your music account, you will go on and of course pay the 
subscription.  I could not find any way in my account where you could choose to 
opt out should you want to do so after the trial period.  What should I be 
looking for when the time comes for that?  It was rather strange that you had 
to choose a plan in any event, even after activating the free trial button, and 
that confused me some what.  Any help appreciated with this.
 
Jan Kleinhans

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RE: Audio books have disappeared since updating to 8.4

2015-07-01 Thread Wendy Alling

Hi all,
Got my audio books problem solved.  I went into iTunes and downloaded the
books and they are now in iBooks so all is well.


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Hi,Re: Fairly Major Hardware issue with IOS 8.4

2015-07-01 Thread Kim Samco


I think I have the same cable since I think it was you who recommended it.  So 
far it's working fine.  Now, hopefully I haven't just jinxed it.

Kim





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 Like many on this list I am constantly using my iPhone for almost everything. 
 Therefore I need to charge is a few times a day, and even sleep with my phone 
 falling asleep to podcasts or something. I had 7 months ago purchased two 10 
 foot lighting cord chargers on Amazon. I recall the description  on Amazon 
 claiming they were Apple certified and I am going to go in to my account to 
 see if anything has been posted about them since the latest IOS update. As 
 since I installed IOS 8.4 on both my iPad and iPhone the lighting chargers no 
 longer work as they get the error message that says something like the cable 
 is not compatible with Apple or something along that line. You can click ok 
 on the message to get it to go away but even if you do the cable will not 
 charge the phone. You can unplug and plug back in but you keep getting the 
 error message making the chargers absolutely worthless. Anyone else having 
 charging issues with lighting cords they bought on Amazon? Update and 
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Re: iOS 9

2015-07-01 Thread Alan Paganelli

Thanks so much!


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:47 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 iOS 9 will be here in the Fall. Yes it does provide more capabilities to 
 Siri, such as show me reminders from yesterday.
 
 
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 Hi All,
 
 When is iOS 9 due out?
 
 Is this the version that is suppose to provide greater capibilities for Siri 
 and if so, what might those be?
 
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

When you disconnect your iPhone from the echo, be prepared for voiceover fun. 
It goes to zero on the phone.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey May,
 
 What is it that Homer Simpson says, doh because that fixed it. Can’t believe 
 I did not think of that as when you pair your iPhone with the Echo sure 
 enough your iPhone volume must go to zero by default, just got it paired and 
 playing something from Downcast on the Echo. Thanks so much and do pass along 
 my thanks to your friend for pointing out the blatantly obvious. Ok, now this 
 really changes things since the iPhone and VO does work with the Echo. Time 
 to explore more.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:04 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey Bryan. Check your audio ducking to make sure it's not on?
 
 Also, my friend said he just needed to turn up the volume on either the 
 IPhone or the echo the first time he did it.
 
 Good luck.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes agreed it does do all that and I was able to get something from Tune In 
 to play and i did not have to log in to tune in or anything but I do have 
 tune in pro. The main reason I got it was to quickly use with MLB At Bat as 
 my friend who does not use VO showed that feature off to me. Unfortunately 
 since pairing the Echo with the iPhone seems to knock out VO it is not 
 something I can do unless someone who uses VO has figured out a work 
 around. Am going to play with it more today to see what I can figure out 
 but tried it twice and both times VO disappeared, and I had to turn 
 bluetooth off on the iPhone to then get VO back.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 You can listen to podcasts on the echo. You can also connect and I heart 
 account, or establish one,. I did it with the Mac using the URL for the 
 Echo site. It is still limited, but it isn't as bad as just being able to 
 play prime music I think you are also supposed to be able to connect your 
 tune in account, and if you have favorites, they are supposed to go to the 
 top of the search list when Alexa searches using to noon. And, there is 
 the  news brief, weather forecasts, and other general information. I hope 
 it will get better.
 Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same 
 day is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can 
 access is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the 
 Echo is pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I 
 sent them an email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim 
 they are passing my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone 
 to the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As 
 for your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of 
 strange in that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing 
 and praying, and eventually, you can probably get your news flash 
 list set up the way you wanted. But forget that to do and the 
 shopping list. No go all the way around until Amazon gets its 
 accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that 
 certain things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took 
 awhile and some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my 
 wifi network.I wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for 
 these two things. One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the 
 Echo, but this completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon

Re: apple problem reporting

2015-07-01 Thread Steve

Note though I wonder if it will be more difficult to get refunds.  Apple just 
revised its terms and conditions last week.  It now says no refunds, althogh 
maybe they still will make an exception for inaccessibility issues.

- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: apple problem reporting


Interestingly, the receipt I have for the iBook that started this whole 
discussion did not have a refund link. I know they have in the past for iTunes 
purchases, I'm not sure about apps. But I double checked this book receipt, and 
there was definitely no such link there.
Mary


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 On Jun 29, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not sure if this has been mentioned on this thread or not. If you save
 your receipts of purchased apps, books or music, there will also be a
 Refund link within the email that will take you to the form. If you
 have deleted the email, or you delete these messages automatically
 when they come in, then definitely bookmark the link. I have gotten in
 the habbit of saving all the receipt emails for each item I have
 purchased from Apple. I have only had to get a refund once, but I was
 super glad I had the email with the refund link when that time came.
 
 Best,
 Wayne
 
 On 6/29/15, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 The good thing about using the form from Apple, is that it is easy to
 specify which product is causing the problem. You sign in, and all your
 purchases for the past however long, I didn’t check, but I’m guessing 90
 days, are listed in order from most recently purchased to oldest purchase.
 Mary Otten
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

I requested  an invitation in April so I suppose I won’t receive an invitation 
to order.  Request acknowledgment indicated several weeks.  
On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

 Larry after I asked for an invitation via the amazon website it took like a 
 month or a little longer before I received the opportunity to order it I 
 placed my order on May 27 and just received it yesterday. So as long as you 
 are sure you asked for the invite to buy one it should come eventually then 
 you got about a month wait after that.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 I never received an invitation or a response 
 to my invitation request.  I would have purchased
 one.  at that price.   on On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Brian Fischler 
 brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Larry after asking for an invitation to buy one did you eventually receive 
 the opportunity to buy one, and place the order? It is kind of a two step 
 process asking for an invite then receiving the invite after a few weeks 
 and placing your order when you receive the email invite. I think do to the 
 debacle of the Fire phone Amazon did not want to manufacture a lot of the 
 Echos in case the demand was limited.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April 
 and there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  
 Since the echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will 
 receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for 
 your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in 
 that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, 
 and eventually, you can probably get your news flash list set up the 
 way you wanted. But forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all 
 the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility act together 
 sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and 
 some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I 
 wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. 
 One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this 
 completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the 
 first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get 
 their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can 
 listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed 
 is there is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do 
 list and shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the 
 iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting 
 items it just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to 
 the other so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of 
 deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to delete is 
 move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If 
 anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Well I do lol.

On 01/07/2015 19:13, Mary Otten wrote:

Start station means that Apple music will start a custom radio station like 
iTunes radio used to, based on the artist that you are double tapping on the more button 
for. That was a bad sentence, I hope you got when I was getting at.
Mary


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Hi,

Is it possible to sort by artist in «my music» in the Apple Music App? For 
example the artist Marcus Miller under artist in my music. And when i double 
click Marcus Miller, i can see all his albums chronologic from the newest to 
the oldest. How do you do to accomplish this?

What is «start station» under the «more» option?

What is «follow»?

Take care

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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

You are right they will ship on July 14,  The price is close to $200.  I would 
have appreciated a note indicating I would not receive an invitation to order.
On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 The echo is now generally available for sale, as I understand it. No 
 invitation necessary. So, I would think that there would not be any more 
 special okay issued for purchase, since you can just go and order it. I don't 
 know what it costs. I certainly hope it isn't $200, as they had suggested it 
 would be.
 Mary
 
 
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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Larry after I asked for an invitation via the amazon website it took like a 
 month or a little longer before I received the opportunity to order it I 
 placed my order on May 27 and just received it yesterday. So as long as you 
 are sure you asked for the invite to buy one it should come eventually then 
 you got about a month wait after that.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 I never received an invitation or a response 
 to my invitation request.  I would have purchased
 one.  at that price.   on On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Brian Fischler 
 brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Larry after asking for an invitation to buy one did you eventually receive 
 the opportunity to buy one, and place the order? It is kind of a two step 
 process asking for an invite then receiving the invite after a few weeks 
 and placing your order when you receive the email invite. I think do to 
 the debacle of the Fire phone Amazon did not want to manufacture a lot of 
 the Echos in case the demand was limited.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April 
 and there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  
 Since the echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will 
 receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone 
 to the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for 
 your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in 
 that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, 
 and eventually, you can probably get your news flash list set up the 
 way you wanted. But forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all 
 the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility act together 
 sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and 
 some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I 
 wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. 
 One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this 
 completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the 
 first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get 
 their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can 
 listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I 
 noticed is there is no way to delete items that you have added to 
 your to do list and shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button 
 both on the iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of 
 deleting items it just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from 
 one list to the other so taking a item on the shopping list and 
 instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to 
 delete is move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus 
 issue. If anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let us 
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More on the Amazon echo the iPhone and Bluetooth

For whatever reason, and I hope this stays this way, subsequent connection and 
disconnection of my iPhone with my Amazon echo via Bluetooth did not result in 
volume changes. The phone and voice over volume did not go to zero when I 
connected and disconnected. I have no idea why it messed up both ways the first 
time, but it worked right the next time I connected and disconnected. I am 
using an iPhone 5S, if that matters. I have not yet tried my old iPhone 4s or 
my iPad mini.
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

2015-07-01 Thread Amy Ruell

Hello all,
I just got my echo and have very little time to get set up. Did you just go to 
the Amazon website to get started? Is that how you got instructions on how to 
use and configure the echo? Thanks very much.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 Not sure what you mean does not work with air play as I just got it all 
 working and tried using Siri with the new Apple Music I said play Bon Jovi, 
 and sure enough it all worked and is playing over the Echo pretty cool. Now I 
 do not think you can say to Echo Alexxa play Bon Jovi on Apple Music. I think 
 you need to use the iPhone to get it started, but then you can use the verbal 
 commands or remote to skip songs and change volume and such. Actually I am so 
 impressed with the remote as I think it is the first remote I have owned for 
 anything where you do not need to point it at the device or even be in the 
 same room, very cool remote which I have been using to speak in to with a 
 loud air conditioner on in the room. Now that I have learned VO does work 
 over the Echo completely different user experience. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The echo at this time definitely does not work with airplay. I would not 
 hold my breath waiting for it to do so, as that is probably not what Amazon 
 has in mind.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April and 
 there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  Since 
 the echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will receive 
 one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability 
 to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I 
 would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do with 
 Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, 
 you can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first 
 bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their 
 iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to 
 MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there 
 is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do list and 
 shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone 
 app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it 
 just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to the other 
 so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved 
 it to the to do list. The button next to delete is move to the other 
 list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any 
 luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Hi Mary,

Disconnecting the iPhone by telling Siri to turn bluetooth off did not affect 
the volume of VO on the iPhone as I just quickly turned bluetooth off and then 
back on on the iPhone and the VO volume did not change
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Amy Ruell aru...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Call Amazon again. They lost my initial request.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April and 
 there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  Since the 
 echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via the 
 iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability to 
 do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I would 
 be very interested to know what your friend is able to do with Bluetooth 
 from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, 
 you can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first bluetooth 
 speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their iPhone VO to 
 play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to MLV At Bat 
 games through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there is no way to 
 delete items that you have added to your to do list and shopping list. I 
 tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone app and then on 
 safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it just kept swapping 
 the item I clicked delete from one list to the other so taking a item on 
 the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. 
 The button next to delete is move to the other list so obviously some 
 kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any luck with any of this 
 please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Anyone figure out what liking a song does in new Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread hebertisaac99

I could be wrong but after reading a article that talks about thisit helps 
apple music learn your music interests. 
 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204842
Here is wheir I found the article.  


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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey I thought liking a song might put that song in to some kind of master 
 liked music playlist but have not found anything like that in Apple Music. 
 Anyone have any clue what liking and loving music does? Does it just help 
 learn your taste in music for suggestions? Thanks,
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Now I am curious. When you disconnected the iPhone from Echo by turning 
Bluetooth off, did your volume go crazy again? I did it by telling Alexa to 
disconnect, and my volume went down, both the regular volume and voiceover 
volume. Maybe disconnecting Bluetooth or turning it off, on the iPhone, would 
work better.
Mary


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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Mary just saw this one. All I did was say Alexxa pair, then the Echo 
 says after a few seconds in pair mode turn the volume up on your iPhone as it 
 defaults to zero go to settings on your iPhone and bluetooth and select Echo. 
 To unfair just turn bluetooth off, no need to use the app for this. Good luck 
 and let me know if you have any other questions.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 How did you pair your echo with your iPhone? Did you just turn Bluetooth on 
 on the iPhone then tell Alexa to pair? Or did you have to use the app or 
 the Mac or whatever?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes agreed it does do all that and I was able to get something from Tune In 
 to play and i did not have to log in to tune in or anything but I do have 
 tune in pro. The main reason I got it was to quickly use with MLB At Bat as 
 my friend who does not use VO showed that feature off to me. Unfortunately 
 since pairing the Echo with the iPhone seems to knock out VO it is not 
 something I can do unless someone who uses VO has figured out a work 
 around. Am going to play with it more today to see what I can figure out 
 but tried it twice and both times VO disappeared, and I had to turn 
 bluetooth off on the iPhone to then get VO back.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 You can listen to podcasts on the echo. You can also connect and I heart 
 account, or establish one,. I did it with the Mac using the URL for the 
 Echo site. It is still limited, but it isn't as bad as just being able to 
 play prime music I think you are also supposed to be able to connect your 
 tune in account, and if you have favorites, they are supposed to go to the 
 top of the search list when Alexa searches using to noon. And, there is 
 the  news brief, weather forecasts, and other general information. I hope 
 it will get better.
 Mary
 
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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same 
 day is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can 
 access is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the 
 Echo is pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I 
 sent them an email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim 
 they are passing my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone 
 to the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As 
 for your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of 
 strange in that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing 
 and praying, and eventually, you can probably get your news flash 
 list set up the way you wanted. But forget that to do and the 
 shopping list. No go all the way around until Amazon gets its 
 accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that 
 certain things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took 
 awhile and some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my 
 wifi network.I wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for 
 these two things. One I connected my iPhone via

Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

The echo is now generally available for sale, as I understand it. No invitation 
necessary. So, I would think that there would not be any more special okay 
issued for purchase, since you can just go and order it. I don't know what it 
costs. I certainly hope it isn't $200, as they had suggested it would be.
Mary


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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Larry after I asked for an invitation via the amazon website it took like a 
 month or a little longer before I received the opportunity to order it I 
 placed my order on May 27 and just received it yesterday. So as long as you 
 are sure you asked for the invite to buy one it should come eventually then 
 you got about a month wait after that.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 I never received an invitation or a response 
 to my invitation request.  I would have purchased
 one.  at that price.   on On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Brian Fischler 
 brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Larry after asking for an invitation to buy one did you eventually receive 
 the opportunity to buy one, and place the order? It is kind of a two step 
 process asking for an invite then receiving the invite after a few weeks 
 and placing your order when you receive the email invite. I think do to the 
 debacle of the Fire phone Amazon did not want to manufacture a lot of the 
 Echos in case the demand was limited.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April 
 and there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  
 Since the echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will 
 receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for 
 your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in 
 that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, 
 and eventually, you can probably get your news flash list set up the 
 way you wanted. But forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all 
 the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility act together 
 sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and 
 some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I 
 wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. 
 One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this 
 completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the 
 first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get 
 their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can 
 listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed 
 is there is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do 
 list and shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the 
 iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting 
 items it just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to 
 the other so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of 
 deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to delete is 
 move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If 
 anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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RE: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is something of a bust

2015-07-01 Thread Neal Ewers

Mary, You are right. Siri is good at finding pizza places and finding pop music 
of various kinds. An aside story that is rather humorous.
The other day, I wanted to learn information about the Taj Mahal, She said, I 
find one listing for the Taj Mahal. It is a very far place from you. OK, 
right. I guess you go there to get pizza. However, I just checked and now she 
has the right information. My point being, that if enough people let apple know 
that their use of Siri to find classical music is quite poor, perhaps it too 
will change. One never knows.

Neal
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is 
something of a bust

I have tried experimenting with Siri and classical music that I own in my 
library. It is very hit and miss. I did get it to play a whole symphony once. 
Other times, it doesn't think I own stuff I do own. So I think it's just a 
matter that Siri doesn't get the names of the conductors composers artist 
whoever. It's much better with pop

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Neal,
 
 Have you tried the pre-programmed classical stations?  They might have 
 something.  Most likely, the trouble is with copyright holders.  The 
 large music services pay royalty rates lower than that specified by 
 the government.  Further, orchestras likely own the copyrights not 
 record companies so the music services need to do deals with each of 
 the major orchestras.
 
 I noted that Schazam often does not have many of the classic jazz 
 recordings of the mid-20th century in its database.  Influential rock 
 artists can also be missing.  The new Google Play music service does 
 not have any Al Kooper recordings from the 1960s and 1970s.
 
 It seems these services are working so hard to develop their 
 businesses, they don't have the time, focus or energy to broaden their 
 catalog for diverse audiences.  Many of us will still be ripping CDs 
 and transferring them to iPhones for the foreseeable future.  I 
 enjoyed a Harvey Mandel album from the 1960s on the subway ride home 
 last week.  I doubt it is on the big services.  Better shovel the rap 
 music that people will forget in a couple of years.
 
 Kelly
 
 On 6/30/15, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 Mary, I haven t spent an enormous amount of time searching for 
 Classical music, but it appears to me that Apple is much more into 
 other kinds of music. Perhaps there are a lot of classical artists 
 that don t bother with putting their stuff on iTunes. That wouldn t 
 surprise me. I am sure I will find a good many things I like, but it 
 will be interesting to discover if there is as much as I have found on 
 Spotify, and even that is limited.
 
 
 
 Neal
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in 
 Apple music is something of a bust
 
 
 
 I haven't tried classical music with the new iTunes, but I have 
 always found that within iTunes, the display of classical music, even 
 classical that I bought, is not very good. Maybe I am missing 
 something. And if you try it on Amazon prime, if you have that 
 service, it is horrible there too it seems nobody understands the 
 classical listeners like a whole piece, not a single movement
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Wow! What a disappointment. Try asking Siri to play Beethoven 
 symphony number 5. She plays the wrong one. Try asking her for 
 Beethoven symphony number 9. She start somewhere half way through the 
 last movement and try as I might, I have not gotten her to play any 
 symphonies from the beginning.
 
 
 
 OK, there is likely something I am missing here. I know I can use my 
 keyboard and search for things, but I thought Siri would be better at this.
 She is better with other music, but not classical. What am I missing, 
 or is Apple so omnipotent that it things I would like to hear 
 whatever it decides to play for me no matter what I ask for?
 
 
 
 Neal
 
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Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is something of a bust

2015-07-01 Thread Tom Lange

Hi Mary, I, too got a nice surprise when fiddling with Apple Music yesterday.  
Since this thread came up yesterday, I did a search on the Bach Brandenburg 
concertos  from the Academy of St. Martin  In The Fields, which I purchased on 
CD at Tower Records in Westwood back in 1994.  I promptly added it to my 
library, then went looking for some of my favorite Mozart string quartets and 
found some, but I don't know if they match the recordings that I also bought at 
Tower. 
I'm still very interested in what the new Apple Music service has to offer but 
will reserve judgment regarding going beyond the free trial.  As some have 
already said, selection is hit and miss and I certainly won't use Siri for 
music searches. Siri's very handy for some things but downright stupid for 
others. 
Oh yeah, and as a side note, I did a search and couldn't find ANY Beatles 
albums: not one.  Hmmm.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, Neil, don't give up. I found a classical piece I have been looking for 
 for literally decades on iTunes today. In the store that is. I owned the 
 album probably 40 or more years ago and lost it. It has never been available 
 to my knowledge digitally. But today it popped up and I am a happy camper. So 
 I think the classical stuff is there. It's just Siri can't deal with the 
 names very well. That very piece that I purchased, Siri claims doesn't exist. 
 Go figure. Typing and searching is my friend.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Mary, I haven’t spent an enormous amount of time searching for Classical 
 music, but it appears to me that Apple is much more into other kinds of 
 music. Perhaps there are a lot of classical artists that don’t bother with 
 putting their stuff on iTunes. That wouldn’t surprise me. I am sure I will 
 find a good many things I like, but it will be interesting to discover if 
 there is as much as I have found on Spotify, and even that is limited.
  
 Neal
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music 
 is something of a bust
  
 I haven't tried classical music with the new iTunes, but I have always found 
 that within iTunes, the display of classical music, even classical that I 
 bought, is not very good. Maybe I am missing something. And if you try it on 
 Amazon prime, if you have that service, it is horrible there too it seems 
 nobody understands the classical listeners like a whole piece, not a single 
 movement
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Wow! What a disappointment. Try asking Siri to play Beethoven symphony 
 number 5. She plays the wrong one. Try asking her for Beethoven symphony 
 number 9. She start somewhere half way through the last movement and try as 
 I might, I have not gotten her to play any symphonies from the beginning.
  
 OK, there is likely something I am missing here. I know I can use my 
 keyboard and search for things, but I thought Siri would be better at this. 
 She is better with other music, but not classical. What am I missing, or is 
 Apple so omnipotent that it things I would like to hear whatever it decides 
 to play for me no matter what I ask for?
  
 Neal
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RE: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is something of a bust

2015-07-01 Thread Neal Ewers

Ah, That’s because the Beatles did not allow their music to be on iTunes.

 

Neal

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is 
something of a bust

 

Hi Mary, I, too got a nice surprise when fiddling with Apple Music yesterday.  
Since this thread came up yesterday, I did a search on the Bach Brandenburg 
concertos  from the Academy of St. Martin  In The Fields, which I purchased on 
CD at Tower Records in Westwood back in 1994.  I promptly added it to my 
library, then went looking for some of my favorite Mozart string quartets and 
found some, but I don't know if they match the recordings that I also bought at 
Tower. 

I'm still very interested in what the new Apple Music service has to offer but 
will reserve judgment regarding going beyond the free trial.  As some have 
already said, selection is hit and miss and I certainly won't use Siri for 
music searches. Siri's very handy for some things but downright stupid for 
others. 

Oh yeah, and as a side note, I did a search and couldn't find ANY Beatles 
albums: not one.  Hmmm.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, Neil, don't give up. I found a classical piece I have been looking for 
for literally decades on iTunes today. In the store that is. I owned the album 
probably 40 or more years ago and lost it. It has never been available to my 
knowledge digitally. But today it popped up and I am a happy camper. So I think 
the classical stuff is there. It's just Siri can't deal with the names very 
well. That very piece that I purchased, Siri claims doesn't exist. Go figure. 
Typing and searching is my friend.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

Mary, I haven’t spent an enormous amount of time searching for Classical music, 
but it appears to me that Apple is much more into other kinds of music. Perhaps 
there are a lot of classical artists that don’t bother with putting their stuff 
on iTunes. That wouldn’t surprise me. I am sure I will find a good many things 
I like, but it will be interesting to discover if there is as much as I have 
found on Spotify, and even that is limited.

 

Neal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is 
something of a bust

 

I haven't tried classical music with the new iTunes, but I have always found 
that within iTunes, the display of classical music, even classical that I 
bought, is not very good. Maybe I am missing something. And if you try it on 
Amazon prime, if you have that service, it is horrible there too it seems 
nobody understands the classical listeners like a whole piece, not a single 
movement

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 30, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

Wow! What a disappointment. Try asking Siri to play Beethoven symphony number 
5. She plays the wrong one. Try asking her for Beethoven symphony number 9. She 
start somewhere half way through the last movement and try as I might, I have 
not gotten her to play any symphonies from the beginning.

 

OK, there is likely something I am missing here. I know I can use my keyboard 
and search for things, but I thought Siri would be better at this. She is 
better with other music, but not classical. What am I missing, or is Apple so 
omnipotent that it things I would like to hear whatever it decides to play for 
me no matter what I ask for?

 

Neal

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Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is something of a bust

2015-07-01 Thread kg7fa2

Hi all, The Beatles were available on I-tunes, but have not released
there music for the new Apple Music.  Sounds like more legal games, in
wich lawyers are the only winners, I doubt if Paul, Ringo, or the estates
of George and John have anything to do with it!

Have a good one:
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Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is something of a bust

2015-07-01 Thread kg7fa2

At the present time, there are no Beatles available with the new Apple
Music!

Have a good one:
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Re: Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Russ Kiehne

I agree, I can't seem to find the option to change category.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Doc wright

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

I am disappointed with what they have done with the music app after
introducing apple music.  When I go to my music and change catagory to songs
there is no option to shuffle nor is there an option to shuffle all music by
a particular artist.
- Original Message - 
From: Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Apple Music

I have been enjoying apple Music however the last half hour I have not been
able to get it to play at all. So apparently my ISP has its bandwidth limits
or I need to reset my router, sad face!
I guess I might as well go to bed. This might keep me from continuing past
the trial through no fault of Apple. However no point in paying for
something I can't use.

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RE: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is something of a bust

Wow, that’s weird, I bought some Beatles music from iTunes.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is 
something of a bust

Ah, That’s because the Beatles did not allow their music to be on iTunes.

Neal

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is 
something of a bust

Hi Mary, I, too got a nice surprise when fiddling with Apple Music yesterday.  
Since this thread came up yesterday, I did a search on the Bach Brandenburg 
concertos  from the Academy of St. Martin  In The Fields, which I purchased on 
CD at Tower Records in Westwood back in 1994.  I promptly added it to my 
library, then went looking for some of my favorite Mozart string quartets and 
found some, but I don't know if they match the recordings that I also bought at 
Tower.
I'm still very interested in what the new Apple Music service has to offer but 
will reserve judgment regarding going beyond the free trial.  As some have 
already said, selection is hit and miss and I certainly won't use Siri for 
music searches. Siri's very handy for some things but downright stupid for 
others.
Oh yeah, and as a side note, I did a search and couldn't find ANY Beatles 
albums: not one.  Hmmm.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Mary Otten 
motte...@gmail.commailto:motte...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, Neil, don't give up. I found a classical piece I have been looking for 
for literally decades on iTunes today. In the store that is. I owned the album 
probably 40 or more years ago and lost it. It has never been available to my 
knowledge digitally. But today it popped up and I am a happy camper. So I think 
the classical stuff is there. It's just Siri can't deal with the names very 
well. That very piece that I purchased, Siri claims doesn't exist. Go figure. 
Typing and searching is my friend.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Neal Ewers 
neal.ew...@ravenswood.orgmailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
Mary, I haven’t spent an enormous amount of time searching for Classical music, 
but it appears to me that Apple is much more into other kinds of music. Perhaps 
there are a lot of classical artists that don’t bother with putting their stuff 
on iTunes. That wouldn’t surprise me. I am sure I will find a good many things 
I like, but it will be interesting to discover if there is as much as I have 
found on Spotify, and even that is limited.

Neal

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is 
something of a bust

I haven't tried classical music with the new iTunes, but I have always found 
that within iTunes, the display of classical music, even classical that I 
bought, is not very good. Maybe I am missing something. And if you try it on 
Amazon prime, if you have that service, it is horrible there too it seems 
nobody understands the classical listeners like a whole piece, not a single 
movement

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Neal Ewers 
neal.ew...@ravenswood.orgmailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
Wow! What a disappointment. Try asking Siri to play Beethoven symphony number 
5. She plays the wrong one. Try asking her for Beethoven symphony number 9. She 
start somewhere half way through the last movement and try as I might, I have 
not gotten her to play any symphonies from the beginning.

OK, there is likely something I am missing here. I know I can use my keyboard 
and search for things, but I thought Siri would be better at this. She is 
better with other music, but not classical. What am I missing, or is Apple so 
omnipotent that it things I would like to hear whatever it decides to play for 
me no matter what I ask for?

Neal
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iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Harry Bell

I have just updated my Mac mini with the latest update for os x (including 
itunes 12.2) and I have enabled iCloud music library, as I had already done on 
my iPhone 5s. On my iPhone I was prompted whether I wanted to merge my iPhone 
device music or not. On my Mac, no such choice was given and it seems now to be 
uploading (moving? Or copying?) every album from my iTunes library on the mac 
into iCloud. Does anyone know whether it is moving everything off my Mac or 
simply making a copy in iCloud? And if it is moving all 80GB of music, how will 
I get it all back if I don't start paying for Apple Music in 3 months' time?
Thanks
Harry

 

 

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Apple music confusion: what am I doing wrong?

2015-07-01 Thread Christine Grassman

Okay, so multiple times, I have selected my most loved genres and have selected 
artists. At the end, it says got it. However, I am getting no recommendations, 
and each time I go back to it, it has not saved my options.
There is no done button, which I see on other screens. What am I doing wrong? I 
also do not see any next button when I am finished

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Re: iOS 8.4 with 4s

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I'm not sure what is meant here, but I don't find IOS 8 to be 
ridiculously slow on the iPhone 4S, and I haven't since something like 
IOS 8.1.2. I think performance has been comparable to IOS 7 and earlier, 
and it's only gotten incrementally better with each release since IOS 8.2.


On 07/01/2015 05:27 AM, Shaf wrote:

Yes. It's ridiculously slow as always.
That being said, if you already have iOS 8 on a 4S there's no harm
upgrading.

On 7/1/2015 11:03 AM, Dave wrote:

hi, first of all, i am not interested in the music side of the new update.
would just like to know, if there are any problems or bugs, if i
update my iPhone 4s from 8.3 to 8.4.
Many thanks,
Dave.
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Re: Reading bookshare books.

2015-07-01 Thread Jenifer Barr

Thanks Chris! My computer kept crashing so I couldn't find that article. 

Jenifer Barr
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 On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
 https://www.bookshare.org/cms/categories/hot-topic?f[0]=field_bks_help_category%3A53
 
 At 05:31 PM 6/30/2015, you wrote:
 No, found a voice I like in voice dream reader... now how do I get the book 
 in there? 
 
 Jenifer Barr
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
 you can use a wide range of voices. VO is not a voice, but a screenreader. 
 Do you mean Alex?
 
 
 At 05:13 PM 6/30/2015, you wrote:
 Can you use vo? 
 
 Jenifer Barr
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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  wrote:
  
  I use VoiceDream Reader and love it.
  
  
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  Subject: Reading bookshare books.
  
  Hi all. Just want to make sure I'm correct in the assumption that I 
  can't read bookshare books using VO, correct? I hope I'm wrong because I 
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hi, first of all, i am not interested in the music side of the new update.

would just like to know, if there are any problems or bugs, if i update my 
iPhone 4s from 8.3 to 8.4.

Many thanks,

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Re: iOS 8.4 with 4s


Yes. It's ridiculously slow as always.
That being said, if you already have iOS 8 on a 4S there's no harm 
upgrading.


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hi, first of all, i am not interested in the music side of the new update.
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Re: [Bulk] Re: IOS 8.4

2015-07-01 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw

Yes.spotify is $9.99 usd. 


Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 I've been listening throughout the day, and I think the sound is at least as 
 good as Spotify's premium service, without all the accessibility fuss. 
 Spotify on iOS isn't too bad, but for the same price, this might be what I 
 stay with.
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Nicki keck jesusgir...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:52 PM
 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: IOS 8.4
 
 
 Yes, I am loving it so far.  My husband and I are finding lots of good 
 classic CCM, and I haven't even scratched the surface!  The quality is 
 excellent too.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Lizand Sammie
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:34 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: IOS 8.4
 
 I am like a kid in a candy store playing with Apple Music.  All I can say is 
 holy crap!  I am impressed.  Updating my software was extremely painless, and 
 it was so easy to start up my free trial of Apple Music.  If what I have 
 found so far on Apple Music is any indication I will happily pay for this 
 service.
 
 Liz Ulrich and Leader dog sammie
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viber update, and 4s

2015-07-01 Thread Dave



I have been using viber fine on my 4s, until the latest update.

now it is very laggy, and most of the time voiceover says nothing at all.

i have tryed the usual stuff, like turning voiceover on and off, and also 
removing the app completely and reinstalling again, but doesn’t make any 
difference.

is anyone else having the same problem, with their 4s?

Don’t want to get a later phone, until i see what apple are going to release in 
the autumn.

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Re: [Bulk] Re: IOS 8.4

They must have raised the price then. Last time I had a subscription I 
paid $4 per month for premium.


On 7/1/2015 7:47 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

No. Spotify is $12 a month. Or around there.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook




On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:27 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

I thought it was $9.99 as well. Pandora was cheaper, but is still limited 
skips, and doesn't let you play specific songs.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: IOS 8.4


What same price? Spotify is more than half the price of Apple Music.

On 7/1/2015 4:09 AM, Brent Harding wrote:

I've been listening throughout the day, and I think the sound is at least as 
good as Spotify's premium service, without all the accessibility fuss. Spotify 
on iOS isn't too bad, but for the same price, this might be what I stay with.


- Original Message - From: Nicki keck jesusgir...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: IOS 8.4


Yes, I am loving it so far.  My husband and I are finding lots of good classic 
CCM, and I haven't even scratched the surface!  The quality is excellent too.

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I am like a kid in a candy store playing with Apple Music.  All I can say is 
holy crap!  I am impressed.  Updating my software was extremely painless, and 
it was so easy to start up my free trial of Apple Music.  If what I have found 
so far on Apple Music is any indication I will happily pay for this service.

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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

2015-07-01 Thread May McDonald

I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo connected and 
plays everything through the echo with no problems.

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to the 
 echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes stuff 
 that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I haven't 
 done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other stuff, no, it 
 is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have to do a lot of 
 mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, you can probably get 
 your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But forget that to do and the 
 shopping list. No go all the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility 
 act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain things 
 for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some frustration 
 but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted to see if anyone 
 found any works arounds for these two things. One I connected my iPhone via 
 bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats 
 to Amazon for making the first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. 
 Can anyone get their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I 
 can listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed 
 is there is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do list 
 and shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone app 
 and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it just kept 
 swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to the other so taking a 
 item on the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved it to the to do 
 list. The button next to delete is move to the other list so obviously some 
 kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any luck with any of this please do 
 let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: New Apple user agreement iTunes Match

2015-07-01 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi,

Any music on your computer stays on your computer after your iTunes Match 
subscription ends, including tracks you've downloaded to replace lower-quality 
versions in your library. What goes away is your ability to download tracks you 
haven't purchased from iTunes to your devices from iCloud. You'll have to sync 
those tracks from your computer instead.

Best,
Anna



 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 I think that always was. If your subscription expires, that stuff disappears 
 from your library. I would assume that Itunes Match probably is DRM protected 
 if you end up replacing your iTunes library with it instead of what you 
 originally uploaded for the higher quality, but I could be wrong on that.
  
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:34 PM
 Subject: New Apple user agreement  iTunes Match
 
 The new agreement states, You will no longer be able to access your iTunes 
 Match Content from
 iTunes Match after the end of your subscription period.  Is anyone clear on 
 what exactly this means?
  
 Cher
  
 
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RE: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is something of a bust

Amen John!

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Hi all, The Beatles were available on I-tunes, but have not released there 
music for the new Apple Music.  Sounds like more legal games, in wich lawyers 
are the only winners, I doubt if Paul, Ringo, or the estates of George and John 
have anything to do with it!

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Re: New Music App

2015-07-01 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi,

You could try locking the screen and then using the controls on the lock screen.

HTH,
Anna



 On Jun 30, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What I'm finding annoying about the new Music app is that the prev and
 next track buttons seem to be gone. You have to double tap on what's
 currently playing, which now brings up a now playing menu to get those
 back, or go in to the Control Center.
 
 Scott
 
 On 6/30/15, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 It does but over complicates things.
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Shockley jawswiz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Double tap on the “Category x” button, where “X” is what you’re in, for
 example “Category Albums,” button. Then, a popup comes up, and you can
 select “Songs” from there. Then, double tap on the song you want to play.
 Then, go all the way down to the bottom where you’ll see the “Mini
 Player.” Find the name of the song you’re playing there, and double tap.
 Then, find “Shuffle” on that screen.
 Hope this helps,
 Jeffrey
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 1:01 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I don't see it. I am on my music, and library. I tried looking at
 everything under there.
 
 On 6/30/15, Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com wrote:
 PS:  the shuffle button is in the mini player window. Along the bottom.
 
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 Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
 Twitter: @lpnalda
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:35 AM, John Diakogeorgiou
 jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Unless I'm missing something, I don't like the new music app. I can't
 find a way to just play my music unless I have play lists set up. I
 can see my albums but not a list of songs. I also don't see a shuffle
 button. So unless the songs are in a play list, I can't find a way to
 just listen to them randomly.
 
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Re: Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Devin Prater

Turn hints on while you get used to the new music app.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree, I can't seem to find the option to change category.
 
 -Original Message- From: Robert Doc wright
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:12 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music
 
 I am disappointed with what they have done with the music app after
 introducing apple music.  When I go to my music and change catagory to songs
 there is no option to shuffle nor is there an option to shuffle all music by
 a particular artist.
 - Original Message - From: Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:08 PM
 Subject: Apple Music
 
 
 I have been enjoying apple Music however the last half hour I have not been
 able to get it to play at all. So apparently my ISP has its bandwidth limits
 or I need to reset my router, sad face!
 I guess I might as well go to bed. This might keep me from continuing past
 the trial through no fault of Apple. However no point in paying for
 something I can't use.
 
 
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Audio books have disappeared since updating to 8.4

2015-07-01 Thread Wendy Alling

Hi all,

After updating my phone to 8.4 my audio books have disappeared from my
phone.  I know that the audio books are now in iBooks but after looking
there they are nowhere to be found.  Can anyone help?
Wendy


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RE: Apple Music

This might be a dumb question, but where do I find Apple Music? Is it separate 
from iTunes Radio?
Thanks.
Lucy

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Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

I agree, I can't seem to find the option to change category.

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From: Robert Doc wright
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

I am disappointed with what they have done with the music app after introducing 
apple music.  When I go to my music and change catagory to songs there is no 
option to shuffle nor is there an option to shuffle all music by a particular 
artist.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Apple Music


I have been enjoying apple Music however the last half hour I have not been
able to get it to play at all. So apparently my ISP has its bandwidth limits
or I need to reset my router, sad face!
I guess I might as well go to bed. This might keep me from continuing past
the trial through no fault of Apple. However no point in paying for
something I can't use.


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Re: iOS 8.4 with 4s

2015-07-01 Thread Billy Maynard

hi,

The music is the update for the 8.4.  If you don't want it I don't see why 
you'd update.

Billy Maynard
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:27 AM
  Subject: Re: iOS 8.4 with 4s


  Yes. It's ridiculously slow as always.
  That being said, if you already have iOS 8 on a 4S there's no harm upgrading.


  On 7/1/2015 11:03 AM, Dave wrote:



hi, first of all, i am not interested in the music side of the new update.

would just like to know, if there are any problems or bugs, if i update my 
iPhone 4s from 8.3 to 8.4.

Many thanks,

Dave.
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Soundquality Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Terje Strømberg

Hi,

Soundquality. Apple Music vs. TIDAL - i can’t hear any difference with my 52 
years old ears. Apple Music from iPod connected to the amplifier via the 
lightning port. TIDAL app on the mac connected to the same amplifier via usb.

Take care

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Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks

2015-07-01 Thread Russ Kiehne

I use voice dream reader for listening to old time radio shows.  For 
example, I zip up a folder called the Shadow part 1.  Then I use itunes to 
transfer it to voice dream reader.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:51 PM
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Subject: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks

Hello Everyone,

This post comes under the heading of look before you leap:

I enjoy downloading old-time radio dramas such as the Mystery Theater and
Beyond Midnight as .mp3 files, then tagging them as Audio Books in iTunes
and then listening to them in the native iOS app.

So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio
series.  The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and
The Room.  These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I
change their media type to Audio Book.  Now because I have them tagged as
Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the
actual episode names as listed above.

In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply
select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see
Beyond Midnight listed as a single book.  After single-finger double-tapping
on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name.

No longer.

To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does
not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list
them as tracks.

This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see
are track 1, track 2, and track 3.

Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its
episode title or chapter heading.

At first, I thought this was an oversight until I did a search on Google and
discovered the following excerpt from Mac Rumors that described this issue
back near the beginning of the beta cycle:

[Begin Excerpt]
Currently, in iOS 8.3, a users' audiobook library is divorced from their
ebook library, forcing users to use two different apps to access their
entire digital book library. The new update consolidates all books in
Apple's iBooks app and also fixes another longstanding issue with audiobooks
on iOS. Since iOS 7, audiobook listeners have been unable to view chapter
titles or even select them. However, pazimi points out that while chapters
are now selectable in iOS 8.4, they do not list the actual chapter titles,
as they're listed as track numbers.
[End Excerpt]

The URL for the entire article can be found at:
http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/audiobooks-ios-8-4-beta/

This issue occurs in both iTunes 11.x and the very latest version of iTunes
12.

Fortunately for me, I have not yet updated my beloved 6 Plus to iOS 8.4.
Although I doubt it will make any difference to Apple, I will send a bug
report via the bug reporting portal.

If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the
individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app,
please post.

If I had updated to the latest iOS without doing some testing, over 70
episodes of my radio dramas would have been reduced to mere track numbers on
my phone.

In The Journey,

Mark

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Re: iOS 8.4 with 4s


Security and stability improvements?

On 7/1/2015 4:27 PM, Billy Maynard wrote:

hi,
The music is the update for the 8.4.  If you don't want it I don't see 
why you'd update.

Billy Maynard

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Yes. It's ridiculously slow as always.
That being said, if you already have iOS 8 on a 4S there's no harm
upgrading.

On 7/1/2015 11:03 AM, Dave wrote:

hi, first of all, i am not interested in the music side of the
new update.
would just like to know, if there are any problems or bugs, if i
update my iPhone 4s from 8.3 to 8.4.
Many thanks,
Dave.
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

2015-07-01 Thread Rich Ring

Yes! There are fairly good instructions on their web site, and, you’ll need to 
install the Amazon Echo app on your mobile device. And, I must say, the echo 
app is a big pain to configure.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Amy Ruell aru...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I just got my echo and have very little time to get set up. Did you just go 
 to the Amazon website to get started? Is that how you got instructions on how 
 to use and configure the echo? Thanks very much.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 Not sure what you mean does not work with air play as I just got it all 
 working and tried using Siri with the new Apple Music I said play Bon Jovi, 
 and sure enough it all worked and is playing over the Echo pretty cool. Now 
 I do not think you can say to Echo Alexxa play Bon Jovi on Apple Music. I 
 think you need to use the iPhone to get it started, but then you can use the 
 verbal commands or remote to skip songs and change volume and such. Actually 
 I am so impressed with the remote as I think it is the first remote I have 
 owned for anything where you do not need to point it at the device or even 
 be in the same room, very cool remote which I have been using to speak in to 
 with a loud air conditioner on in the room. Now that I have learned VO does 
 work over the Echo completely different user experience. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The echo at this time definitely does not work with airplay. I would not 
 hold my breath waiting for it to do so, as that is probably not what Amazon 
 has in mind.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April 
 and there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  
 Since the echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will 
 receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for 
 your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in 
 that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, 
 and eventually, you can probably get your news flash list set up the 
 way you wanted. But forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all 
 the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility act together 
 sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and 
 some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I 
 wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. 
 One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this 
 completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the 
 first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get 
 their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can 
 listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed 
 is there is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do 
 list and shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the 
 iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting 
 items it just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to 
 the other so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of 
 deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to delete is 
 move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If 
 anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Apple watch email list?

2015-07-01 Thread Jenifer Barr

Hi all. 
So, I got my apple watch yesterday... yay!!! I do have some questions though... 
even after listening to David's incredibley helpful podcasts... is there an 
email list specifically for the apple watch like there is for the iPhone?
Thanks for any info.


Jenifer Barr
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RE: Apple Music

Okay, to question further; I have not updated to 8.4. If I don't update, what 
will happen to iTunes Radio? It is still on my phone.
Thanks.
Lucy

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Chris
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

iTunes Radio is dead. Apple Music Radio takes its place. Apple Music itself is 
in the new Music app.

On 01/07/2015 15:42, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) wrote:
 This might be a dumb question, but where do I find Apple Music? Is it 
 separate from iTunes Radio?
 Thanks.
 Lucy

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 Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:33 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music

 I agree, I can't seem to find the option to change category.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Doc wright
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:12 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music

 I am disappointed with what they have done with the music app after 
 introducing apple music.  When I go to my music and change catagory to songs 
 there is no option to shuffle nor is there an option to shuffle all music by 
 a particular artist.
 - Original Message -
 From: Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:08 PM
 Subject: Apple Music


 I have been enjoying apple Music however the last half hour I have not 
 been able to get it to play at all. So apparently my ISP has its 
 bandwidth limits or I need to reset my router, sad face!
 I guess I might as well go to bed. This might keep me from continuing 
 past the trial through no fault of Apple. However no point in paying 
 for something I can't use.



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Apple Music FAQ: The ins and outs of Apple's new streaming music service | Macworld

For what it is worth, here is Mac worlds FAQ on Apple music.

http://www.macworld.com/article/2934744/apple-music-faq-the-ins-and-outs-of-apples-new-streaming-music-service.html

Apple Music FAQ: The ins and outs of Apple's new streaming music service

Apple singlehandedly turned the digital music marketplace on its head when it
launched the iTunes Store in 2003, and now it’s going after the current hottest
trend: Streaming media. Apple introduced this new service, Apple Music, during
its annual Worldwide Developer’s Conference, bringing out the company’s big
guns (record exec and Beats cofounder Jimmy Iovine, Apple’s senior vice
president of Internet Software Eddy Cue, and hip hop star Drake) to show the
world how Apple Music plans to compete with the likes of Spotify, Rdio, and
Tidal.

So, will this replace iTunes? Can you listen to music offline? What about
existing Beats subscriptions? We’ve got the answers to those questions and more
in this guide to everything Apple Music. We’re still learning—it just launched
on June 30—so if you have any additional questions, let us know in the comments
below and we’ll see what we can dig up.

Still antsy for more? Check out our first impressions of Apple Music.

Getting started

Apple music’s For You section serves up artist and playlist recommendations,
based on other things you’ve listened to and your profile preferences.
What the heck is this thing? Apple Music combines subscription-based music
streaming with global radio-like programming and a social feature that connects
artists to fans. It’s bundled within iOS 8.4 and iTunes 12.2. The service will
come pre-installed on all iOS and OS X devices, but users will be able to
stream music instead of purchase music. It’s an all-you-can-eat service for
subscribers: Pay a flat fee, and you unlock all of Apple Music’s extensive 30
million-song library. Apple Music is also the new home for your personal music
collection on your iOS devices.

Isn’t that the same as iTunes? Not at all. iTunes is all about media ownership,
functioning as both a virtual record store and an efficient digital library for
music and other media (movies, TV shows, etc) that you own personally. The
software comes pre-installed on all Apple devices, and is available as a free
download for non-Apple PCs and mobile devices. iTunes doesn’t require a
subscription fee to use it (unless you use iTunes Match—more on that in a
moment), since every song, album, movie, or show was purchased
individually—either from the iTunes Store, or imported or ripped from another
source.

Apple Music is all about streaming. You pay a flat fee to unlock access to
Apple Music’s entire catalogue, but you don’t actually own the music you listen
to. The files don’t live individually on your devices; you’re instead just
listening to tracks stored remotely, that are owned by Apple. If you subscribe
to any other media streaming subscription service—be it a music-only service
like Spotify, Beats Music, Tidal, or Rdio, a TV service like Hulu, or a
movie/TV combo service like Netflix or HBO Now—Apple Music functions the same
way.

So, iTunes is dead? Not exactly. You can access your entire iTunes library from
within Apple Music—just tap the My Music tab—and iTunes will still be a
standalone app and media store if you’d prefer to continue to buy music a la
carte. However, if you’ve let purchasing music fall by the wayside, you may
never have to open iTunes again if you sign up for an Apple Music subscription.

Beats 1 is Apple Music’s 24/7 live radio station, which has a curated
collection of songs, artist interviews, and pop culture.
What makes Apple Music different from Spotify/Rdio/Tidal/every other music
subscription service? Apple is putting a lot of emphasis on Apple Music’s three
additional features: Beats 1, curated playlists, and Connect.

Beats 1 is its radio offering, which features an around-the-clock worldwide
live broadcast from DJs based in Los Angeles, New York, and London. It promises
to deliver a curated selection of songs, pop culture news, and interviews with
artists.

Speaking of curation, Apple Music also offers up recommendations tailored to
your tastes, looking at artists you like and serving up other artists and
playlists for you to listen to. But instead of being built by algorithms, they
are built by real people, according to Apple. You can find these in the “For
You” section of the app—but first you’ll have to set it up by following the
prompts to select genres and artists you like.

Connect is Apple Music’s artist-based social networking feature, which lets
fans follow artists. Artists can share special content with fans through
Connect—hip-hop artist Drake took the stage at WWDC to show off how he’d use
Connect to post behind-the-scenes photos of his life, share snippets of new
songs, and other content. Besides Drake, you’ll find Connect profiles for
Pharrell Williams, FKA twigs, Chris

Re: Apple Music

iTunes Radio is dead. Apple Music Radio takes its place. Apple Music 
itself is in the new Music app.


On 01/07/2015 15:42, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) wrote:

This might be a dumb question, but where do I find Apple Music? Is it separate 
from iTunes Radio?
Thanks.
Lucy

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

I agree, I can't seem to find the option to change category.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Doc wright
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

I am disappointed with what they have done with the music app after introducing 
apple music.  When I go to my music and change catagory to songs there is no 
option to shuffle nor is there an option to shuffle all music by a particular 
artist.
- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Apple Music


I have been enjoying apple Music however the last half hour I have not been
able to get it to play at all. So apparently my ISP has its bandwidth limits
or I need to reset my router, sad face!
I guess I might as well go to bed. This might keep me from continuing past
the trial through no fault of Apple. However no point in paying for
something I can't use.




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RE: Apple Music

You mean I can still use it?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shaf
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

Nothing at all.

On 7/1/2015 8:54 PM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) wrote:
 Okay, to question further; I have not updated to 8.4. If I don't update, what 
 will happen to iTunes Radio? It is still on my phone.
 Thanks.
 Lucy

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chris
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:31 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music

 iTunes Radio is dead. Apple Music Radio takes its place. Apple Music itself 
 is in the new Music app.

 On 01/07/2015 15:42, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) wrote:
 This might be a dumb question, but where do I find Apple Music? Is it 
 separate from iTunes Radio?
 Thanks.
 Lucy

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:33 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music

 I agree, I can't seem to find the option to change category.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Doc wright
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:12 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music

 I am disappointed with what they have done with the music app after 
 introducing apple music.  When I go to my music and change catagory to songs 
 there is no option to shuffle nor is there an option to shuffle all music by 
 a particular artist.
 - Original Message -
 From: Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:08 PM
 Subject: Apple Music


 I have been enjoying apple Music however the last half hour I have 
 not been able to get it to play at all. So apparently my ISP has its 
 bandwidth limits or I need to reset my router, sad face!
 I guess I might as well go to bed. This might keep me from continuing 
 past the trial through no fault of Apple. However no point in paying 
 for something I can't use.


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Re: iOS 8.4 with 4s

Even if you do, there is a new setting in the Music part of the main 
Settings app, show Apple Music. Of course this is on by default, but 
turning it off returns you to the old Music app with the addition of a 
radio and connect tab which everyone with an Apple ID has access to.


On 01/07/2015 16:27, Billy Maynard wrote:

hi,

The music is the update for the 8.4.  If you don't want it I don't see why 
you'd update.

Billy Maynard
   - Original Message -
   From: Shaf
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:27 AM
   Subject: Re: iOS 8.4 with 4s


   Yes. It's ridiculously slow as always.
   That being said, if you already have iOS 8 on a 4S there's no harm upgrading.


   On 7/1/2015 11:03 AM, Dave wrote:



 hi, first of all, i am not interested in the music side of the new update.

 would just like to know, if there are any problems or bugs, if i update my 
iPhone 4s from 8.3 to 8.4.

 Many thanks,

 Dave.
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Re: Apple watch email list?

2015-07-01 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi Jennifer,

I don't know of a list specific to the watch, but watch questions are welcome 
on this one, since it's for all things iOS.

In case you're interested, I wrote a book on the watch. It's at
watchingwithoutlooking.wordpress.com

Cheers,
Anna


 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. 
 So, I got my apple watch yesterday... yay!!! I do have some questions 
 though... even after listening to David's incredibley helpful podcasts... is 
 there an email list specifically for the apple watch like there is for the 
 iPhone?
 Thanks for any info.
 
 
 Jenifer Barr
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

2015-07-01 Thread Amy Ruel

Thanks, Rich!

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Rich Ring
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Yes! There are fairly good instructions on their web site, and, you’ll need to 
install the Amazon Echo app on your mobile device. And, I must say, the echo 
app is a big pain to configure.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Amy Ruell aru...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hello all,
 I just got my echo and have very little time to get set up. Did you just go 
 to the Amazon website to get started? Is that how you got instructions on how 
 to use and configure the echo? Thanks very much.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Mary,

 Not sure what you mean does not work with air play as I just got it all 
 working and tried using Siri with the new Apple Music I said play Bon Jovi, 
 and sure enough it all worked and is playing over the Echo pretty cool. Now 
 I do not think you can say to Echo Alexxa play Bon Jovi on Apple Music. I 
 think you need to use the iPhone to get it started, but then you can use the 
 verbal commands or remote to skip songs and change volume and such. Actually 
 I am so impressed with the remote as I think it is the first remote I have 
 owned for anything where you do not need to point it at the device or even 
 be in the same room, very cool remote which I have been using to speak in to 
 with a loud air conditioner on in the room. Now that I have learned VO does 
 work over the Echo completely different user experience. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 The echo at this time definitely does not work with airplay. I would not 
 hold my breath waiting for it to do so, as that is probably not what Amazon 
 has in mind.
 Mary

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:

 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April 
 and there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  
 Since the echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will 
 receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for 
 your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in 
 that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, 
 and eventually, you can probably get your news flash list set up the 
 way you wanted. But forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all 
 the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility act together 
 sometime the next millennium.

 Sent from my iPhone

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 wrote:

 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and 
 some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I 
 wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. 
 One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this 
 completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the 
 first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get 
 their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can 
 listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed 
 is there is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do 
 list and shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the 
 iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting 
 items it just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to 
 the other so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of 
 deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to delete is 
 move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If 
 anyone has had any luck with any

Re: Strange problem with VoiceOver and iOS 8.4 when moving through elements in a list

2015-07-01 Thread Harry Bell

Yes, same here on 5s. Harry 

 

 On 1 Jul 2015, at 20:17, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, I'm running a 4S and get the skipping problem also when going through a 
 list.
  
 Carol P
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Lemly
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:56 PM
 Subject: Re: Strange problem with VoiceOver and iOS 8.4 when moving through 
 elements in a list
 
 I've had that skipping problem when swiping through a list of email messages 
 in the native mail app ever since iOS 8 and its updates were released. Even 
 though I've yet to update to version 8.4, I still get this skipping with ios 
 8.3 and have written apple accessibility about it. 
 
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Since upgrading to iOS 8.4, I’m experiencing a strange problem with 
 VoiceOver where moving through lists of content sometimes produces 
 unpredictable results. When flicking left or right to move to the previous 
 or next item, some items are skipped. For example, I’ve tested this in 
 Feeddler Pro and Lire, two RSS readers that I’ve used. In a list where I 
 know there are 20 articles, the problem becomes very obvious because 
 sometimes 20 articles do not appear as I flick right to move through the 
 list from the top. I might only see 17 or 18 articles. When I backtrack, I 
 usually discover that a few items were skipped over. I think this issue 
 impacts other apps like Mail, but am not totally sure since I’ve only used 
 iOS 8.4 for 24 hours.
 
 What do you guys think? Can anybody else reproduce this problem?
 
 Best,
 
 Grant
 
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Re: Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone

Yes. Sorry I mean the service itself isn't dead; just the feature in the 
Music app and iTunes.


On 01/07/2015 21:00, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) wrote:

You mean I can still use it?

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Shaf
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

Nothing at all.

On 7/1/2015 8:54 PM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) wrote:

Okay, to question further; I have not updated to 8.4. If I don't update, what 
will happen to iTunes Radio? It is still on my phone.
Thanks.
Lucy

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

iTunes Radio is dead. Apple Music Radio takes its place. Apple Music itself is 
in the new Music app.

On 01/07/2015 15:42, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) wrote:

This might be a dumb question, but where do I find Apple Music? Is it separate 
from iTunes Radio?
Thanks.
Lucy

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

I agree, I can't seem to find the option to change category.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Doc wright
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

I am disappointed with what they have done with the music app after introducing 
apple music.  When I go to my music and change catagory to songs there is no 
option to shuffle nor is there an option to shuffle all music by a particular 
artist.
- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Apple Music


I have been enjoying apple Music however the last half hour I have
not been able to get it to play at all. So apparently my ISP has its
bandwidth limits or I need to reset my router, sad face!
I guess I might as well go to bed. This might keep me from continuing
past the trial through no fault of Apple. However no point in paying
for something I can't use.



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Re: Strange problem with VoiceOver and iOS 8.4 when moving through elements in a list

Yeah, I'm running a 4S and get the skipping problem also when going through a 
list.

Carol P

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  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:56 PM
  Subject: Re: Strange problem with VoiceOver and iOS 8.4 when moving through 
elements in a list


  I've had that skipping problem when swiping through a list of email messages 
in the native mail app ever since iOS 8 and its updates were released. Even 
though I've yet to update to version 8.4, I still get this skipping with ios 
8.3 and have written apple accessibility about it. 


  Alan Lemly 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi all,


Since upgrading to iOS 8.4, I’m experiencing a strange problem with 
VoiceOver where moving through lists of content sometimes produces 
unpredictable results. When flicking left or right to move to the previous or 
next item, some items are skipped. For example, I’ve tested this in Feeddler 
Pro and Lire, two RSS readers that I’ve used. In a list where I know there are 
20 articles, the problem becomes very obvious because sometimes 20 articles do 
not appear as I flick right to move through the list from the top. I might only 
see 17 or 18 articles. When I backtrack, I usually discover that a few items 
were skipped over. I think this issue impacts other apps like Mail, but am not 
totally sure since I’ve only used iOS 8.4 for 24 hours.


What do you guys think? Can anybody else reproduce this problem?


Best,


Grant 



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Re: Apple Music


Nothing at all.

On 7/1/2015 8:54 PM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) wrote:

Okay, to question further; I have not updated to 8.4. If I don't update, what 
will happen to iTunes Radio? It is still on my phone.
Thanks.
Lucy

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

iTunes Radio is dead. Apple Music Radio takes its place. Apple Music itself is 
in the new Music app.

On 01/07/2015 15:42, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) wrote:

This might be a dumb question, but where do I find Apple Music? Is it separate 
from iTunes Radio?
Thanks.
Lucy

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Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

I agree, I can't seem to find the option to change category.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Doc wright
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music

I am disappointed with what they have done with the music app after introducing 
apple music.  When I go to my music and change catagory to songs there is no 
option to shuffle nor is there an option to shuffle all music by a particular 
artist.
- Original Message -
From: Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Apple Music


I have been enjoying apple Music however the last half hour I have not
been able to get it to play at all. So apparently my ISP has its
bandwidth limits or I need to reset my router, sad face!
I guess I might as well go to bed. This might keep me from continuing
past the trial through no fault of Apple. However no point in paying
for something I can't use.



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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

2015-07-01 Thread May

hahaha, you are very welcome.

Sometimes it just takes asking a question to point out the *duh* things. I 
always bop myself on the head when I come across those.

May and LD Luna Moon!
www.canadianlynx.ca

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey May,
 
 What is it that Homer Simpson says, doh because that fixed it. Can’t believe 
 I did not think of that as when you pair your iPhone with the Echo sure 
 enough your iPhone volume must go to zero by default, just got it paired and 
 playing something from Downcast on the Echo. Thanks so much and do pass along 
 my thanks to your friend for pointing out the blatantly obvious. Ok, now this 
 really changes things since the iPhone and VO does work with the Echo. Time 
 to explore more.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:04 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey Bryan. Check your audio ducking to make sure it's not on?
 
 Also, my friend said he just needed to turn up the volume on either the 
 IPhone or the echo the first time he did it.
 
 Good luck.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes agreed it does do all that and I was able to get something from Tune In 
 to play and i did not have to log in to tune in or anything but I do have 
 tune in pro. The main reason I got it was to quickly use with MLB At Bat as 
 my friend who does not use VO showed that feature off to me. Unfortunately 
 since pairing the Echo with the iPhone seems to knock out VO it is not 
 something I can do unless someone who uses VO has figured out a work 
 around. Am going to play with it more today to see what I can figure out 
 but tried it twice and both times VO disappeared, and I had to turn 
 bluetooth off on the iPhone to then get VO back.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 You can listen to podcasts on the echo. You can also connect and I heart 
 account, or establish one,. I did it with the Mac using the URL for the 
 Echo site. It is still limited, but it isn't as bad as just being able to 
 play prime music I think you are also supposed to be able to connect your 
 tune in account, and if you have favorites, they are supposed to go to the 
 top of the search list when Alexa searches using to noon. And, there is 
 the  news brief, weather forecasts, and other general information. I hope 
 it will get better.
 Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same 
 day is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can 
 access is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the 
 Echo is pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I 
 sent them an email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim 
 they are passing my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone 
 to the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As 
 for your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of 
 strange in that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing 
 and praying, and eventually, you can probably get your news flash 
 list set up the way you wanted. But forget that to do and the 
 shopping list. No go all the way around until Amazon gets its 
 accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that 
 certain things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took 
 awhile and some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my 
 wifi network.I wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for 
 these two things. One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the

RE: [Bulk] Re: New Apple user agreement iTunes Match

2015-07-01 Thread Don Cher

OK, thanks, Anna. The wording scared me as I'm about to dive into iTunes Match 
for the first time, but do not intend to keep subscribing as any new music is 
basically always being purchased from the iTunes store anyway. So this will 
work for me the way you have clarified the new agreement.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: New Apple user agreement  iTunes Match

 

Hi,

 

Any music on your computer stays on your computer after your iTunes Match 
subscription ends, including tracks you've downloaded to replace lower-quality 
versions in your library. What goes away is your ability to download tracks you 
haven't purchased from iTunes to your devices from iCloud. You'll have to sync 
those tracks from your computer instead.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

 

I think that always was. If your subscription expires, that stuff disappears 
from your library. I would assume that Itunes Match probably is DRM protected 
if you end up replacing your iTunes library with it instead of what you 
originally uploaded for the higher quality, but I could be wrong on that.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Don  mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net  Cher 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:34 PM

Subject: New Apple user agreement  iTunes Match

 

The new agreement states, You will no longer be able to access your iTunes 
Match Content from

iTunes Match after the end of your subscription period.  Is anyone clear on 
what exactly this means?

 

Cher

 

 

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Re: Soundquality Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Brett

Hi, 

I am pretty fussy about my sound quality so I have tested apple music against 
spotify and Deezer, both through a stereo and different good quality 
headthhones. 

I think Apple music does sound better, with better stereo seporation and more 
room between instrements. 

Therefore from my personal experience only, I would have to conclude that AAC 
is a suppearior codec over MP3. 

Cheers, 
Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone

 On 2 Jul 2015, at 1:55 am, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Soundquality. Apple Music vs. TIDAL - i can’t hear any difference with my 52 
 years old ears. Apple Music from iPod connected to the amplifier via the 
 lightning port. TIDAL app on the mac connected to the same amplifier via usb.
 
 Take care
 
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Re: iOS 8.4 with 4s


Not slow here on my 4s.

On 01/07/2015 11:27, Shaf wrote:

Yes. It's ridiculously slow as always.
That being said, if you already have iOS 8 on a 4S there's no harm
upgrading.

On 7/1/2015 11:03 AM, Dave wrote:

hi, first of all, i am not interested in the music side of the new
update.
would just like to know, if there are any problems or bugs, if i
update my iPhone 4s from 8.3 to 8.4.
Many thanks,
Dave.
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RE: Apple music confusion: what am I doing wrong?

2015-07-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

There is a Done button at the top of that screen. The I got it at the bottom 
is just a heading, not a button.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christine Grassman
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:14 AM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple music confusion: what am I doing wrong?

Okay, so multiple times, I have selected my most loved genres and have selected 
artists. At the end, it says got it. However, I am getting no recommendations, 
and each time I go back to it, it has not saved my options.
There is no done button, which I see on other screens. What am I doing wrong? I 
also do not see any next button when I am finished

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RE: Hi,Re: Fairly Major Hardware issue with IOS 8.4

2015-07-01 Thread Cristóbal

My wife's 10 foot Monoprice lightening cable gave out a while back. Monoprice 
is good about replacing or crediting for merchandise that has gone bad or is 
defective. In fact, last we checked, they're not selling that one anymore or at 
least it was out of stock. We ended up just getting the 6 foot option instead 
which has so far worked well. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hi,Re: Fairly Major Hardware issue with IOS 8.4

Brian,

I have 2 Monoprice 10 foot cables and 2 Amazon Basics 8 foot lightning cables 
and I have no issues with any of them. I can charge just fine and I actually 
used one of the Amazon cables to connect my iPhone to the computer when I did 
the 8.4 upgrade.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian Fischler
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hi,Re: Fairly Major Hardware issue with IOS 8.4

Thanks not sure if it was me that recommended it but it could have been as you 
got two 10 footers for like 12 bucks or something time to break out the 2nd one 
to see if it is having the same issues. Thanks for letting me know.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Kim Samco ksa...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 I think I have the same cable since I think it was you who recommended it.  
 So far it's working fine.  Now, hopefully I haven't just jinxed it.
 
 Kim
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Like many on this list I am constantly using my iPhone for almost 
 everything. Therefore I need to charge is a few times a day, and even sleep 
 with my phone falling asleep to podcasts or something. I had 7 months ago 
 purchased two 10 foot lighting cord chargers on Amazon. I recall the 
 description  on Amazon claiming they were Apple certified and I am going to 
 go in to my account to see if anything has been posted about them since the 
 latest IOS update. As since I installed IOS 8.4 on both my iPad and iPhone 
 the lighting chargers no longer work as they get the error message that says 
 something like the cable is not compatible with Apple or something along 
 that line. You can click ok on the message to get it to go away but even if 
 you do the cable will not charge the phone. You can unplug and plug back in 
 but you keep getting the error message making the chargers absolutely 
 worthless. Anyone else having charging issues with lighting cords they 
 bought on Amazon? Update and Lighting Chargers bought on Amazon
 
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Passwords in the App Store?

2015-07-01 Thread Donald Moore

Hi y'all, I have a 5S and downloaded IOS 8.4.  I went into the app store to
download the Amazon Echo app.  When I was asked for the password, there was
no way I could enter it using my 810 keyboard.  Are any of you having
similar problems, and, is there a work-around?

Thanks in advance.

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 



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Re: Strange problem with VoiceOver and iOS 8.4 when moving through elements in a list

2015-07-01 Thread Brett

Hi, 

I have seen this skipping issue in both 8,4 and 8,3 in several apps. This 
includes spotify,  email etc. 

For me the issue ís still present, but doesn't seem any worse. I do hope its 
one that gets fixed in iOS 9, as it does get quite frustrating. 

Cheers, 
Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone

 On 2 Jul 2015, at 3:56 am, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've had that skipping problem when swiping through a list of email messages 
 in the native mail app ever since iOS 8 and its updates were released. Even 
 though I've yet to update to version 8.4, I still get this skipping with ios 
 8.3 and have written apple accessibility about it. 
 
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Since upgrading to iOS 8.4, I’m experiencing a strange problem with 
 VoiceOver where moving through lists of content sometimes produces 
 unpredictable results. When flicking left or right to move to the previous 
 or next item, some items are skipped. For example, I’ve tested this in 
 Feeddler Pro and Lire, two RSS readers that I’ve used. In a list where I 
 know there are 20 articles, the problem becomes very obvious because 
 sometimes 20 articles do not appear as I flick right to move through the 
 list from the top. I might only see 17 or 18 articles. When I backtrack, I 
 usually discover that a few items were skipped over. I think this issue 
 impacts other apps like Mail, but am not totally sure since I’ve only used 
 iOS 8.4 for 24 hours.
 
 What do you guys think? Can anybody else reproduce this problem?
 
 Best,
 
 Grant
 
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RE: Hi,Re: Fairly Major Hardware issue with IOS 8.4

2015-07-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Brian,

I have 2 Monoprice 10 foot cables and 2 Amazon Basics 8 foot lightning cables 
and I have no issues with any of them. I can charge just fine and I actually 
used one of the Amazon cables to connect my iPhone to the computer when I did 
the 8.4 upgrade.

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Brian Fischler
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hi,Re: Fairly Major Hardware issue with IOS 8.4

Thanks not sure if it was me that recommended it but it could have been as you 
got two 10 footers for like 12 bucks or something time to break out the 2nd one 
to see if it is having the same issues. Thanks for letting me know.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Kim Samco ksa...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 I think I have the same cable since I think it was you who recommended it.  
 So far it's working fine.  Now, hopefully I haven't just jinxed it.
 
 Kim
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Like many on this list I am constantly using my iPhone for almost 
 everything. Therefore I need to charge is a few times a day, and even sleep 
 with my phone falling asleep to podcasts or something. I had 7 months ago 
 purchased two 10 foot lighting cord chargers on Amazon. I recall the 
 description  on Amazon claiming they were Apple certified and I am going to 
 go in to my account to see if anything has been posted about them since the 
 latest IOS update. As since I installed IOS 8.4 on both my iPad and iPhone 
 the lighting chargers no longer work as they get the error message that says 
 something like the cable is not compatible with Apple or something along 
 that line. You can click ok on the message to get it to go away but even if 
 you do the cable will not charge the phone. You can unplug and plug back in 
 but you keep getting the error message making the chargers absolutely 
 worthless. Anyone else having charging issues with lighting cords they 
 bought on Amazon? Update and Lighting Chargers bought on Amazon
 
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RE: iOS 8.4 with 4s

2015-07-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Apart from Apple Music the note about what was new in the update also mentioned 
bug fixes so it’s probably not a bad idea to update.

 

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Billy Maynard
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hi,

 

The music is the update for the 8.4.  If you don't want it I don't see why 
you'd update.

 

Billy Maynard

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Subject: Re: iOS 8.4 with 4s

 

Yes. It's ridiculously slow as always.
That being said, if you already have iOS 8 on a 4S there's no harm upgrading.

On 7/1/2015 11:03 AM, Dave wrote:

 

 

hi, first of all, i am not interested in the music side of the new update.

 

would just like to know, if there are any problems or bugs, if i update my 
iPhone 4s from 8.3 to 8.4.

 

Many thanks,

 

Dave.

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Playlist in Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Chris Chaffin

In Apple Music, if I ask Siri to play the top 20 country songs, and they start 
playing, is there a way to make a playlist out of it?

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is something of a bust

Hi Neil,
I am not registered as a developer, so the bug reporting wouldn't be available, 
assuming I could figure out how to use it. Is there somewhere you can write as 
a general user to ask for improvements in classical music searching? Usually, I 
end up writing to Apple accessibility, because the bugs I'm complaining about 
our voice over related. But this one is not. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:38 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Mary, You are right. Siri is good at finding pizza places and finding pop 
 music of various kinds. An aside story that is rather humorous.
 The other day, I wanted to learn information about the Taj Mahal, She said, 
 I find one listing for the Taj Mahal. It is a very far place from you. OK, 
 right. I guess you go there to get pizza. However, I just checked and now she 
 has the right information. My point being, that if enough people let apple 
 know that their use of Siri to find classical music is quite poor, perhaps it 
 too will change. One never knows.
 
 Neal
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Mary Otten
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music 
 is something of a bust
 
 I have tried experimenting with Siri and classical music that I own in my 
 library. It is very hit and miss. I did get it to play a whole symphony once. 
 Other times, it doesn't think I own stuff I do own. So I think it's just a 
 matter that Siri doesn't get the names of the conductors composers artist 
 whoever. It's much better with pop
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Neal,
 
 Have you tried the pre-programmed classical stations?  They might have 
 something.  Most likely, the trouble is with copyright holders.  The 
 large music services pay royalty rates lower than that specified by 
 the government.  Further, orchestras likely own the copyrights not 
 record companies so the music services need to do deals with each of 
 the major orchestras.
 
 I noted that Schazam often does not have many of the classic jazz 
 recordings of the mid-20th century in its database.  Influential rock 
 artists can also be missing.  The new Google Play music service does 
 not have any Al Kooper recordings from the 1960s and 1970s.
 
 It seems these services are working so hard to develop their 
 businesses, they don't have the time, focus or energy to broaden their 
 catalog for diverse audiences.  Many of us will still be ripping CDs 
 and transferring them to iPhones for the foreseeable future.  I 
 enjoyed a Harvey Mandel album from the 1960s on the subway ride home 
 last week.  I doubt it is on the big services.  Better shovel the rap 
 music that people will forget in a couple of years.
 
 Kelly
 
 On 6/30/15, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 Mary, I haven t spent an enormous amount of time searching for 
 Classical music, but it appears to me that Apple is much more into 
 other kinds of music. Perhaps there are a lot of classical artists 
 that don t bother with putting their stuff on iTunes. That wouldn t 
 surprise me. I am sure I will find a good many things I like, but it 
 will be interesting to discover if there is as much as I have found on 
 Spotify, and even that is limited.
 
 
 
 Neal
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in 
 Apple music is something of a bust
 
 
 
 I haven't tried classical music with the new iTunes, but I have 
 always found that within iTunes, the display of classical music, even 
 classical that I bought, is not very good. Maybe I am missing 
 something. And if you try it on Amazon prime, if you have that 
 service, it is horrible there too it seems nobody understands the 
 classical listeners like a whole piece, not a single movement
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Wow! What a disappointment. Try asking Siri to play Beethoven 
 symphony number 5. She plays the wrong one. Try asking her for 
 Beethoven symphony number 9. She start somewhere half way through the 
 last movement and try as I might, I have not gotten her to play any 
 symphonies from the beginning.
 
 
 
 OK, there is likely something I am missing here. I know I can use my 
 keyboard and search for things, but I thought Siri would be better at this.
 She is better with other music, but not classical. What am I missing, 
 or is Apple so omnipotent that it things I would like to hear 
 whatever it decides to play for me no matter what I ask for?
 
 
 
 Neal
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Hello,
I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April and 
there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  Since the 
echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will receive one.
I hope the unit will work with airplay.
On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via the 
 iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability to do 
 anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I would be 
 very interested to know what your friend is able to do with Bluetooth from 
 their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo connected 
 and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to the 
 echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes stuff 
 that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I haven't 
 done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other stuff, no, 
 it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have to do a lot 
 of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, you can probably 
 get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But forget that to do 
 and the shopping list. No go all the way around until Amazon gets its 
 accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted to 
 see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely knocked 
 out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first bluetooth speaker 
 that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their iPhone VO to play over 
 the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to MLV At Bat games through 
 the echo. The other thing I noticed is there is no way to delete items 
 that you have added to your to do list and shopping list. I tried clicking 
 the delete button both on the iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, 
 but instead of deleting items it just kept swapping the item I clicked 
 delete from one list to the other so taking a item on the shopping list 
 and instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to 
 delete is move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

The echo at this time definitely does not work with airplay. I would not hold 
my breath waiting for it to do so, as that is probably not what Amazon has in 
mind.
Mary


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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April and 
 there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  Since the 
 echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via the 
 iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability to do 
 anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I would be 
 very interested to know what your friend is able to do with Bluetooth from 
 their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo connected 
 and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, you 
 can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first bluetooth 
 speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their iPhone VO to 
 play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to MLV At Bat games 
 through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there is no way to delete 
 items that you have added to your to do list and shopping list. I tried 
 clicking the delete button both on the iPhone app and then on safari on 
 th emac, but instead of deleting items it just kept swapping the item I 
 clicked delete from one list to the other so taking a item on the 
 shopping list and instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. The 
 button next to delete is move to the other list so obviously some kind of 
 a focus issue. If anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let 
 us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Opting out of apple music after end of trial question?

2015-07-01 Thread Donna

Apple sent me a confirmation email, like the receipts that are sent app 
purchases. At the bottom of the email is a link to opt after the 3 month trial. 

Donna

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:
 
 Hi
  
 The subject says it all really.  When I activated the trial period, it 
 informed me that, and this is the part I missed somehow, if automatic update 
 is not turned off in your music account, you will go on and of course pay the 
 subscription.  I could not find any way in my account where you could choose 
 to opt out should you want to do so after the trial period.  What should I be 
 looking for when the time comes for that?  It was rather strange that you had 
 to choose a plan in any event, even after activating the free trial button, 
 and that confused me some what.  Any help appreciated with this.
  
 Jan Kleinhans
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Hi Brian,
How did you pair your echo with your iPhone? Did you just turn Bluetooth on on 
the iPhone then tell Alexa to pair? Or did you have to use the app or the Mac 
or whatever?
Mary


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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes agreed it does do all that and I was able to get something from Tune In 
 to play and i did not have to log in to tune in or anything but I do have 
 tune in pro. The main reason I got it was to quickly use with MLB At Bat as 
 my friend who does not use VO showed that feature off to me. Unfortunately 
 since pairing the Echo with the iPhone seems to knock out VO it is not 
 something I can do unless someone who uses VO has figured out a work around. 
 Am going to play with it more today to see what I can figure out but tried it 
 twice and both times VO disappeared, and I had to turn bluetooth off on the 
 iPhone to then get VO back.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 You can listen to podcasts on the echo. You can also connect and I heart 
 account, or establish one,. I did it with the Mac using the URL for the Echo 
 site. It is still limited, but it isn't as bad as just being able to play 
 prime music I think you are also supposed to be able to connect your tune in 
 account, and if you have favorites, they are supposed to go to the top of 
 the search list when Alexa searches using to noon. And, there is the  news 
 brief, weather forecasts, and other general information. I hope it will get 
 better.
 Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same day 
 is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can access 
 is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the Echo is 
 pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I sent them an 
 email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim they are 
 passing my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for 
 your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in 
 that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, 
 and eventually, you can probably get your news flash list set up the 
 way you wanted. But forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all 
 the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility act together 
 sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and 
 some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I 
 wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. 
 One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this 
 completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the 
 first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get 
 their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can 
 listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed 
 is there is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do 
 list and shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the 
 iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting 
 items it just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to 
 the other so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of 
 deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to delete is 
 move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If 
 anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let us know.

Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Sorry Mary just saw this one. All I did was say Alexxa pair, then the Echo says 
after a few seconds in pair mode turn the volume up on your iPhone as it 
defaults to zero go to settings on your iPhone and bluetooth and select Echo. 
To unfair just turn bluetooth off, no need to use the app for this. Good luck 
and let me know if you have any other questions.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 How did you pair your echo with your iPhone? Did you just turn Bluetooth on 
 on the iPhone then tell Alexa to pair? Or did you have to use the app or 
 the Mac or whatever?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes agreed it does do all that and I was able to get something from Tune In 
 to play and i did not have to log in to tune in or anything but I do have 
 tune in pro. The main reason I got it was to quickly use with MLB At Bat as 
 my friend who does not use VO showed that feature off to me. Unfortunately 
 since pairing the Echo with the iPhone seems to knock out VO it is not 
 something I can do unless someone who uses VO has figured out a work around. 
 Am going to play with it more today to see what I can figure out but tried 
 it twice and both times VO disappeared, and I had to turn bluetooth off on 
 the iPhone to then get VO back.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 You can listen to podcasts on the echo. You can also connect and I heart 
 account, or establish one,. I did it with the Mac using the URL for the 
 Echo site. It is still limited, but it isn't as bad as just being able to 
 play prime music I think you are also supposed to be able to connect your 
 tune in account, and if you have favorites, they are supposed to go to the 
 top of the search list when Alexa searches using to noon. And, there is the 
  news brief, weather forecasts, and other general information. I hope it 
 will get better.
 Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same 
 day is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can 
 access is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the 
 Echo is pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I sent 
 them an email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim they 
 are passing my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the 
 ability to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your 
 echo. I would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do 
 with Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo 
 user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone 
 to the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your 
 iTunes stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo 
 speaker. I haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for 
 your other stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in 
 that you have to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, 
 and eventually, you can probably get your news flash list set up the 
 way you wanted. But forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all 
 the way around until Amazon gets its accessibility act together 
 sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and 
 some frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I 
 wanted to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. 
 One I connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this 
 completely knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the 
 first bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get 
 their iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can 
 listen to MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I 
 noticed is there is no way to delete items that you have added to 
 your to do list and shopping list. I tried clicking the

Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Hi May,
I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via the 
iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability to do 
anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I would be very 
interested to know what your friend is able to do with Bluetooth from their 
iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo connected 
 and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to the 
 echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes stuff 
 that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I haven't 
 done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other stuff, no, it 
 is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have to do a lot of 
 mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, you can probably get 
 your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But forget that to do and 
 the shopping list. No go all the way around until Amazon gets its 
 accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted to 
 see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I connected 
 my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely knocked out 
 VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first bluetooth speaker that 
 does not work with VO. Can anyone get their iPhone VO to play over the 
 Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to MLV At Bat games through the 
 echo. The other thing I noticed is there is no way to delete items that you 
 have added to your to do list and shopping list. I tried clicking the 
 delete button both on the iPhone app and then on safari on th emac, but 
 instead of deleting items it just kept swapping the item I clicked delete 
 from one list to the other so taking a item on the shopping list and 
 instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. The button next to 
 delete is move to the other list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. 
 If anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same day is 
really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can access is 
playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the Echo is pretty 
useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I sent them an email about 
the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim they are passing my feedback 
along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via the 
 iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability to do 
 anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I would be 
 very interested to know what your friend is able to do with Bluetooth from 
 their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo connected 
 and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, you 
 can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first bluetooth 
 speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their iPhone VO to 
 play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to MLV At Bat games 
 through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there is no way to delete 
 items that you have added to your to do list and shopping list. I tried 
 clicking the delete button both on the iPhone app and then on safari on 
 th emac, but instead of deleting items it just kept swapping the item I 
 clicked delete from one list to the other so taking a item on the 
 shopping list and instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. The 
 button next to delete is move to the other list so obviously some kind of 
 a focus issue. If anyone has had any luck with any of this please do let 
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Re: 8.4 taken down?

2015-07-01 Thread Alan Paganelli

I'm downloading the update to my 5S right now and got the notice that iPhone is 
restarting so with everybody and their sister trying to download the update 
it's going to take some time.  On the other hand, if you wait a day or two, you 
probably could download in the wink of an eye so to speak!


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:11 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 I did it within minutes after 10 central, and had no trouble. I bet though, 
 as the day goes on, the servers probably got swamped. I doubt many remember 
 to get to it within 5 minutes of the announced time. I got to hear Beats1 
 launch, and it was great!
 
 - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:58 PM
 Subject: Re: 8.4 taken down?
 
 
 I just updated to IOS 8.4 in the last few minutes, so no, I don't think
 it's been removed.
 
 On 06/30/2015 08:55 PM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
 Hi,
 
 was wondering if 8.4 was removed?
 
 I have iphone 6+, and itunes says I have 8.3 version and that it is
 fully up to date. The next time it checks for an update is tomorrow.
 
 Was just curious if anyone heard if 8.4 was taken down.
 
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Strange problem with VoiceOver and iOS 8.4 when moving through elements in a list

2015-07-01 Thread Grant

Hi all,

Since upgrading to iOS 8.4, I’m experiencing a strange problem with VoiceOver 
where moving through lists of content sometimes produces unpredictable results. 
When flicking left or right to move to the previous or next item, some items 
are skipped. For example, I’ve tested this in Feeddler Pro and Lire, two RSS 
readers that I’ve used. In a list where I know there are 20 articles, the 
problem becomes very obvious because sometimes 20 articles do not appear as I 
flick right to move through the list from the top. I might only see 17 or 18 
articles. When I backtrack, I usually discover that a few items were skipped 
over. I think this issue impacts other apps like Mail, but am not totally sure 
since I’ve only used iOS 8.4 for 24 hours.

What do you guys think? Can anybody else reproduce this problem?

Best,

Grant

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Re: Hi,Re: Fairly Major Hardware issue with IOS 8.4

Thanks not sure if it was me that recommended it but it could have been as you 
got two 10 footers for like 12 bucks or something time to break out the 2nd one 
to see if it is having the same issues. Thanks for letting me know.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Kim Samco ksa...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 I think I have the same cable since I think it was you who recommended it.  
 So far it's working fine.  Now, hopefully I haven't just jinxed it.
 
 Kim
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Like many on this list I am constantly using my iPhone for almost 
 everything. Therefore I need to charge is a few times a day, and even sleep 
 with my phone falling asleep to podcasts or something. I had 7 months ago 
 purchased two 10 foot lighting cord chargers on Amazon. I recall the 
 description  on Amazon claiming they were Apple certified and I am going to 
 go in to my account to see if anything has been posted about them since the 
 latest IOS update. As since I installed IOS 8.4 on both my iPad and iPhone 
 the lighting chargers no longer work as they get the error message that says 
 something like the cable is not compatible with Apple or something along 
 that line. You can click ok on the message to get it to go away but even if 
 you do the cable will not charge the phone. You can unplug and plug back in 
 but you keep getting the error message making the chargers absolutely 
 worthless. Anyone else having charging issues with lighting cords they 
 bought on Amazon? Update and Lighting Chargers bought on Amazon
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Hi Mary,

Not sure what you mean does not work with air play as I just got it all working 
and tried using Siri with the new Apple Music I said play Bon Jovi, and sure 
enough it all worked and is playing over the Echo pretty cool. Now I do not 
think you can say to Echo Alexxa play Bon Jovi on Apple Music. I think you need 
to use the iPhone to get it started, but then you can use the verbal commands 
or remote to skip songs and change volume and such. Actually I am so impressed 
with the remote as I think it is the first remote I have owned for anything 
where you do not need to point it at the device or even be in the same room, 
very cool remote which I have been using to speak in to with a loud air 
conditioner on in the room. Now that I have learned VO does work over the Echo 
completely different user experience. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The echo at this time definitely does not work with airplay. I would not hold 
 my breath waiting for it to do so, as that is probably not what Amazon has in 
 mind.
 Mary
 
 
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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I would like to have an echo.  I requested an invitation in early April and 
 there was an indication I should hear something in several weeks.  Since the 
 echoes will begin shipping on July 14 I am wondering if I will receive one.
 I hope the unit will work with airplay.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via the 
 iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability to 
 do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I would 
 be very interested to know what your friend is able to do with Bluetooth 
 from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, 
 you can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first bluetooth 
 speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their iPhone VO to 
 play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to MLV At Bat 
 games through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there is no way to 
 delete items that you have added to your to do list and shopping list. I 
 tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone app and then on 
 safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it just kept swapping 
 the item I clicked delete from one list to the other so taking a item on 
 the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. 
 The button next to delete is move to the other list so obviously some 
 kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any luck with any of this 
 please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Strange problem with VoiceOver and iOS 8.4 when moving through elements in a list

2015-07-01 Thread Alan Lemly

I've had that skipping problem when swiping through a list of email messages in 
the native mail app ever since iOS 8 and its updates were released. Even though 
I've yet to update to version 8.4, I still get this skipping with ios 8.3 and 
have written apple accessibility about it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Since upgrading to iOS 8.4, I’m experiencing a strange problem with VoiceOver 
 where moving through lists of content sometimes produces unpredictable 
 results. When flicking left or right to move to the previous or next item, 
 some items are skipped. For example, I’ve tested this in Feeddler Pro and 
 Lire, two RSS readers that I’ve used. In a list where I know there are 20 
 articles, the problem becomes very obvious because sometimes 20 articles do 
 not appear as I flick right to move through the list from the top. I might 
 only see 17 or 18 articles. When I backtrack, I usually discover that a few 
 items were skipped over. I think this issue impacts other apps like Mail, but 
 am not totally sure since I’ve only used iOS 8.4 for 24 hours.
 
 What do you guys think? Can anybody else reproduce this problem?
 
 Best,
 
 Grant
 
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Artist Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Terje Strømberg

Hi, 

Is it possible to sort by artist in «my music» in the Apple Music App? For 
example the artist Marcus Miller under artist in my music. And when i double 
click Marcus Miller, i can see all his albums chronologic from the newest to 
the oldest. How do you do to accomplish this? 

What is «start station» under the «more» option?

What is «follow»?

Take care

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Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple music is something of a bust

Hi Tom,
I am curious about something. You mentioned having added some things to your 
library. I assume  that you meant from the Apple music, and that you did not 
buy them in iTunes. So, uwhen you added them to your library, does that mean 
they actually downloaded to your device or devices? And they will be available 
off-line for the duration of your music subscription? And you did your search 
not using Siri. I haven't experimented with searching much in the music part of 
the app without using Siri. I still search in the iTunes Store by typing, and 
that's where I've been finding the good stuff. Searches for Russian music are 
now turning up without me having to use the Cyrillic keyboard on my Mac. That's 
rather helpful. You should still be able to find Beatles in iTunes store, yes?
Mary


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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mary, I, too got a nice surprise when fiddling with Apple Music yesterday. 
  Since this thread came up yesterday, I did a search on the Bach Brandenburg 
 concertos  from the Academy of St. Martin  In The Fields, which I purchased 
 on CD at Tower Records in Westwood back in 1994.  I promptly added it to my 
 library, then went looking for some of my favorite Mozart string quartets and 
 found some, but I don't know if they match the recordings that I also bought 
 at Tower. 
 I'm still very interested in what the new Apple Music service has to offer 
 but will reserve judgment regarding going beyond the free trial.  As some 
 have already said, selection is hit and miss and I certainly won't use Siri 
 for music searches. Siri's very handy for some things but downright stupid 
 for others. 
 Oh yeah, and as a side note, I did a search and couldn't find ANY Beatles 
 albums: not one.  Hmmm.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, Neil, don't give up. I found a classical piece I have been looking for 
 for literally decades on iTunes today. In the store that is. I owned the 
 album probably 40 or more years ago and lost it. It has never been available 
 to my knowledge digitally. But today it popped up and I am a happy camper. 
 So I think the classical stuff is there. It's just Siri can't deal with the 
 names very well. That very piece that I purchased, Siri claims doesn't 
 exist. Go figure. Typing and searching is my friend.
 Mary
 
 
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 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Mary, I haven’t spent an enormous amount of time searching for Classical 
 music, but it appears to me that Apple is much more into other kinds of 
 music. Perhaps there are a lot of classical artists that don’t bother with 
 putting their stuff on iTunes. That wouldn’t surprise me. I am sure I will 
 find a good many things I like, but it will be interesting to discover if 
 there is as much as I have found on Spotify, and even that is limited.
  
 Neal
  
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 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I'd have to say that looking for classical music in Apple 
 music is something of a bust
  
 I haven't tried classical music with the new iTunes, but I have always 
 found that within iTunes, the display of classical music, even classical 
 that I bought, is not very good. Maybe I am missing something. And if you 
 try it on Amazon prime, if you have that service, it is horrible there too 
 it seems nobody understands the classical listeners like a whole piece, not 
 a single movement
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Wow! What a disappointment. Try asking Siri to play Beethoven symphony 
 number 5. She plays the wrong one. Try asking her for Beethoven symphony 
 number 9. She start somewhere half way through the last movement and try as 
 I might, I have not gotten her to play any symphonies from the beginning.
  
 OK, there is likely something I am missing here. I know I can use my 
 keyboard and search for things, but I thought Siri would be better at this. 
 She is better with other music, but not classical. What am I missing, or is 
 Apple so omnipotent that it things I would like to hear whatever it decides 
 to play for me no matter what I ask for?
  
 Neal
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

Yes agreed it does do all that and I was able to get something from Tune In to 
play and i did not have to log in to tune in or anything but I do have tune in 
pro. The main reason I got it was to quickly use with MLB At Bat as my friend 
who does not use VO showed that feature off to me. Unfortunately since pairing 
the Echo with the iPhone seems to knock out VO it is not something I can do 
unless someone who uses VO has figured out a work around. Am going to play with 
it more today to see what I can figure out but tried it twice and both times VO 
disappeared, and I had to turn bluetooth off on the iPhone to then get VO back.
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 You can listen to podcasts on the echo. You can also connect and I heart 
 account, or establish one,. I did it with the Mac using the URL for the Echo 
 site. It is still limited, but it isn't as bad as just being able to play 
 prime music I think you are also supposed to be able to connect your tune in 
 account, and if you have favorites, they are supposed to go to the top of the 
 search list when Alexa searches using to noon. And, there is the  news brief, 
 weather forecasts, and other general information. I hope it will get better.
 Mary
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same day 
 is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can access 
 is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the Echo is 
 pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I sent them an 
 email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim they are passing 
 my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via 
 the iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability 
 to do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I 
 would be very interested to know what your friend is able to do with 
 Bluetooth from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, 
 you can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first 
 bluetooth speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their 
 iPhone VO to play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to 
 MLV At Bat games through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there 
 is no way to delete items that you have added to your to do list and 
 shopping list. I tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone 
 app and then on safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it 
 just kept swapping the item I clicked delete from one list to the other 
 so taking a item on the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved 
 it to the to do list. The button next to delete is move to the other 
 list so obviously some kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any 
 luck with any of this please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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Re: Amazon Echo and the iPhone

I forgot to mention, that you can also play or audible books on the echo.
Mary


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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks as I am curious to as seeing Apple’s new music store on the same day 
 is really making me consider returning the Echo if all a VO user can access 
 is playing music on it through prime music than unfortunately the Echo is 
 pretty useless. I did quickly get a response from Amazon as I sent them an 
 email about the VO issues through the iPhone and they claim they are passing 
 my feedback along to their developers so we shall see. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:35 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They are definitely a VO user.
 
 I'll ask him whenever he's done working for the day.
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi May,
 I remember when the ability to use your iTunes library through echo via the 
 iPhone first became available on echo. They didn't mention the ability to 
 do anything else with the Bluetooth from the iPhone to your echo. I would 
 be very interested to know what your friend is able to do with Bluetooth 
 from their iPhone to the echo, and whether they are a vo user. 
 
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 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll have to ask a friend of mine, but he has his IPhone and echo 
 connected and plays everything through the echo with no problems.
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 I don't think you're supposed to be able to play MLB from your phone to 
 the echo. ITunes. I think that's it. The Bluetooth will take your iTunes 
 stuff that you select on your iPhone and plant over the echo speaker. I 
 haven't done it. But that is what is supposed to do. As for your other 
 stuff, no, it is a bust. The Mac app is kind of strange in that you have 
 to do a lot of mouse rotting and pressing and praying, and eventually, 
 you can probably get your news flash list set up the way you wanted. But 
 forget that to do and the shopping list. No go all the way around until 
 Amazon gets its accessibility act together sometime the next millennium.
 
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 On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just got my Amazon Echo today, and have read on the list that certain 
 things for the Echo do not work with VoiceOVer. It took awhile and some 
 frustration but I finally got it to connect to my wifi network.I wanted 
 to see if anyone found any works arounds for these two things. One I 
 connected my iPhone via bluetooth to the Echo, but this completely 
 knocked out VoiceOVer, congrats to Amazon for making the first bluetooth 
 speaker that does not work with VO. Can anyone get their iPhone VO to 
 play over the Echo? I want to pair it so I can listen to MLV At Bat 
 games through the echo. The other thing I noticed is there is no way to 
 delete items that you have added to your to do list and shopping list. I 
 tried clicking the delete button both on the iPhone app and then on 
 safari on th emac, but instead of deleting items it just kept swapping 
 the item I clicked delete from one list to the other so taking a item on 
 the shopping list and instead of deleting it moved it to the to do list. 
 The button next to delete is move to the other list so obviously some 
 kind of a focus issue. If anyone has had any luck with any of this 
 please do let us know. Thanks,
 
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