Re: Blindfold Bowling finally out!

[Larry Smith]

ok, thanks!
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> You do have the feature to view scores during the game. You shake the ios 
> device.
> Likewise, I have purchased the unlimited play  in  app purchase.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Larry Smith
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:39 AM
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Blindfold Bowling finally out!
> 
> It is the bowlers with averages of I believe 150 and above, that never miss 
> spare shots. I don’t mind that, but no one, not even pro bowlers can make 
> split shots every time. Smiles, I seem to get Susan who has I think a 194 
> average. There is one or two other random people that I get also. I have 
> gotten Kathy once or twice. Now she does misses spares from time to time. Her 
> average is around 107 I think. As I stated in my previous post, This is a 
> nice bowling app for voiceover users. It just needs a bit of adjusting, and 
> some added features, such as having the ability to view scores during the 
> game. I have purchased the unlimited play  in app purchase.
>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Jim Ruby  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow I found the computer played poorly. I only tried playing against the 
>> computer once though and I think she sayd her name was cathy.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:18 PM
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: Blindfold Bowling finally out!
>> 
>> Blind fold bowling is a nice game. I have contacted the developer, and I 
>> have gotten a response from him. When playing against the computer, in 
>> “single finger mode”, it is impossible to win. Smiles, the computer never 
>> misses a spare shot. No matter what pins are left, and no matter how bit the 
>> split, the computer will convert the shot every time  smiles! I also ask if 
>> the scores could be reviewed during the game.
>>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:12 AM, jazzyjennifer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yeah same here, i am going to grab it too.
>>> 
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RE: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Krister,

I suggest you try out Richard's suggestion and figure out what works best for 
you. I prefer to use KNFB Reader in portrait mode since it's more intuitive for 
me to just put the page in front of me like I would read it, but essentially I 
do the same, i.e. put the phone so the camera corner is approx. in the middle 
of the page, I check to see if the left edge of the phone is roughly parallel 
to the edge of the paper, then I raide the phone up a good foot and do my 
thing. It's better to raise it a bit too high rather than having it too low, a 
few inches more don't seem to make a difference when it comes to accuracy of 
the OCR and you are more likely to have all four edges of the page in view.

Now, if, for example, the app tells you that the phone only sees the top and 
the left edge, then you have to move the phone a bit right and down since 
obviously it doesn't see those edges.

If it says you are 10 degrees counter clockwise, then just turn the phone 
slightly clockwise. You can actually test this by deliveratly turning the phone 
either clockwise or counter clockwise, let's say at least 45 degrees, so about 
half way between portrait and landscape. Then do a field of view report and see 
what it says, now try to hold the phone more or less straight and do it again. 
Compare what it said, doing it sort of by extremes can really help to bring the 
point home. It doesn't matter if you turn the phone clockwise or counter 
clockwise, just make sure you take notice if it says 40 degrees clockwise and 
you then rotate it counter clockwise by approximately that amount and now it 
says 5 degrees clockwise you know you turned it the right way, but not quite 
enough, if it now says 8 degrees counter clockwise you know you turned it the 
right way but a bit too much. I find that if it's less than 5 degrees the 
results are usually very good since the app of course corrects for a small 
amount of error.
The vibration I assume is self-explanatory, if the phone vibrates you are 
holding it tipped side to side or front to back and you just have to make very 
small adjustments until it stops vibrating.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain

Hi and thanks for that explanation. I actually never thought about having the 
document in landscape, probably because i always have the phone in portrait, 
but it’s certainly well worth trying. What does that ”rotated so and so many 
degrees clockwise” mean and what does it refer to? Is it the paper you should 
adjust then?
/Krister

> 16 okt. 2015 kl. 14:50 skrev Richard Turner :
> 
> Hi,
> Well, it sounds like at least you get a good workout while using the app, 
> grin.
> 
> In my opinion, the best way to get used to using the app and making sure you 
> have the phone in the right position is to do the following:
> 
> 1.  put the page you want to scan on a table or desk in landscape mode near 
> the edge of the surface closest to you.  So, the long side would be toward 
> you and the short sides will be pointed left to right.
> 
> 2.  lay the phone flat on the page pointed in the same direction as the page, 
> so the long side is toward you with the corner that contains the camera as 
> close to the center of the page as possible.  
> If you have trouble judging where the center is, before you lay the phone on 
> the page, fold the page in half the long way, unfold it and then folder it in 
> half the short way and lay it back flat on the surface.  That way, where the 
> folds meet is the center of the page.  
> Place the camera on that spot.
> 
> 3.  Use both hands to raise the phone straight up about one foot.  I hold the 
> corners of the phone with my thumbs and little fingers so my other fingers 
> are pointed at each other.  Some people actually put their elbows on the desk 
> to help steady their hands.
> 
> Once you have the phone about a foot off the page, and level, gently reach a 
> finger to the field of view report button and double tap.
> A tricky  movement but not too hard.  The main thing it to not tilt the phone 
> while doing this.
> 
> After a while, you will get used to how high to raise the phone and how to 
> have the camera aimed at the center so you can do it with one hand and get 
> good scans.
> 
> I hope that helped,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain
> 
> Hello,
> I have been using the KNFB reader for a good while now and think it’s pretty 
> decent. It does what it’s supposed to do i guess and does it well. This rant 
> 

Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

[christopher hallsworth]

Double tap slide to set up which may be displayed and spoken in a different 
language every few seconds.
> On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:29, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> A friend called me and asked me to help her updae her phone to IOS9.
> 
> She was concerned about the hello screen with all the differnet languages 
> that comes up once the os OS is installed and the phone reboots.
> 
> In the past this screen has proven problematic with voiceover.
> 
> I dont' remember what i did to get past it.
> 
> Any tips on how to handle that?
> 
> Maybe its not a problem with IOS9 just can't remember.
> 
> If I can give her a way to do it reliably I would prefer that as opposed to 
> going over there to do it for her.
> 
> Better to teach a person to fish...
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Don
> 
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Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Me, with 5 days of IOS experience at the time, got that bit straight away. Just 
click on something like continue, as that keeps it on English. I'd rather not 
swear by it, though. 

- Original Message -
From: Don Breda  
To: VIPhone google group  
Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:29 pm
Subject: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

>
>
> A friend called me and asked me to help her updae her phone to IOS9.
> 
> She was concerned about the hello screen with all the differnet 
> languages that comes up once the os OS is installed and the phone reboots.
> 
> In the past this screen has proven problematic with voiceover.
> 
> I dont' remember what i did to get past it.
> 
> Any tips on how to handle that?
> 
> Maybe its not a problem with IOS9 just can't remember.
> 
> If I can give her a way to do it reliably I would prefer that as opposed 
> to going over there to do it for her.
> 
> Better to teach a person to fish...
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Don
> 
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Resetting iphone 5C to pass on to somebody else

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

Just wanted to ask your advice how best to reset my iphone 5C which I'm going 
to pass onto a family member.  can I reset it after I've removed the SIM card 
from it?  Or do I have to reset it while my sIM card is still in it?  I will be 
using the same sIM card with my new iphone 6S.  I'm just not sure whether you 
can reset the iphone without the SIM card being in it.

Many thanks for any advice.

Andrew

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Re: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain

[Alan Lemly]

I'll add to Richard's and Sieghard's excellent comments. 

I think contrast is very important in getting a reliable field of view report 
particularly where the four corners are concerned. Since most pages I scan are 
white, I saved an old TV tray top that is dark green. This makes a great 
surface to place my pages on before doing a KNFB field of view report. If you 
have a table that you know is a darker brown, that also would provide good 
background contrast for white pages being scanned. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Krister,
> 
> I suggest you try out Richard's suggestion and figure out what works best for 
> you. I prefer to use KNFB Reader in portrait mode since it's more intuitive 
> for me to just put the page in front of me like I would read it, but 
> essentially I do the same, i.e. put the phone so the camera corner is approx. 
> in the middle of the page, I check to see if the left edge of the phone is 
> roughly parallel to the edge of the paper, then I raide the phone up a good 
> foot and do my thing. It's better to raise it a bit too high rather than 
> having it too low, a few inches more don't seem to make a difference when it 
> comes to accuracy of the OCR and you are more likely to have all four edges 
> of the page in view.
> 
> Now, if, for example, the app tells you that the phone only sees the top and 
> the left edge, then you have to move the phone a bit right and down since 
> obviously it doesn't see those edges.
> 
> If it says you are 10 degrees counter clockwise, then just turn the phone 
> slightly clockwise. You can actually test this by deliveratly turning the 
> phone either clockwise or counter clockwise, let's say at least 45 degrees, 
> so about half way between portrait and landscape. Then do a field of view 
> report and see what it says, now try to hold the phone more or less straight 
> and do it again. Compare what it said, doing it sort of by extremes can 
> really help to bring the point home. It doesn't matter if you turn the phone 
> clockwise or counter clockwise, just make sure you take notice if it says 40 
> degrees clockwise and you then rotate it counter clockwise by approximately 
> that amount and now it says 5 degrees clockwise you know you turned it the 
> right way, but not quite enough, if it now says 8 degrees counter clockwise 
> you know you turned it the right way but a bit too much. I find that if it's 
> less than 5 degrees the results are usually very good since the app of course 
> corrects for a small amount of error.
> The vibration I assume is self-explanatory, if the phone vibrates you are 
> holding it tipped side to side or front to back and you just have to make 
> very small adjustments until it stops vibrating.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain
> 
> Hi and thanks for that explanation. I actually never thought about having the 
> document in landscape, probably because i always have the phone in portrait, 
> but it’s certainly well worth trying. What does that ”rotated so and so many 
> degrees clockwise” mean and what does it refer to? Is it the paper you should 
> adjust then?
> /Krister
> 
>> 16 okt. 2015 kl. 14:50 skrev Richard Turner :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Well, it sounds like at least you get a good workout while using the app, 
>> grin.
>> 
>> In my opinion, the best way to get used to using the app and making sure you 
>> have the phone in the right position is to do the following:
>> 
>> 1.  put the page you want to scan on a table or desk in landscape mode near 
>> the edge of the surface closest to you.  So, the long side would be toward 
>> you and the short sides will be pointed left to right.
>> 
>> 2.  lay the phone flat on the page pointed in the same direction as the 
>> page, so the long side is toward you with the corner that contains the 
>> camera as close to the center of the page as possible.  
>> If you have trouble judging where the center is, before you lay the phone on 
>> the page, fold the page in half the long way, unfold it and then folder it 
>> in half the short way and lay it back flat on the surface.  That way, where 
>> the folds meet is the center of the page.  
>> Place the camera on that spot.
>> 
>> 3.  Use both hands to raise the phone straight up about one foot.  I hold 
>> the corners of the phone with my thumbs and little fingers so my other 
>> fingers are pointed at each other.  Some people actually put their elbows on 
>> the desk to help steady their hands.
>> 
>> Once you have the phone about a foot off the page, and level, gently reach a 
>> finger to the field of view report button and double 

Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Woops, I was wrong!! Although, I'm interested. Why does it matter, if it 
doesn't continue in the language, anyway?

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  
To: Viphone  
Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:07 pm
Subject: Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

>
>
> No it will not proceed in that language.
> > On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:36, Don Breda  wrote:
> > 
> > Ok and if it is not spoken in english  then how do you know what to 
> > doubletap.
> > 
> > If you doubl tap on someing in another language then won't the setup 
> > proceed in that language?
> > 
> > Don
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 16-Oct-15 2:32 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
> >> Double tap slide to set up which may be displayed and spoken in a 
> >> different language every few seconds.
> >>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:29, Don Breda  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> A friend called me and asked me to help her updae her phone to IOS9.
> >>> 
> >>> She was concerned about the hello screen with all the differnet languages 
> >>> that comes up once the os OS is installed and the phone reboots.
> >>> 
> >>> In the past this screen has proven problematic with voiceover.
> >>> 
> >>> I dont' remember what i did to get past it.
> >>> 
> >>> Any tips on how to handle that?
> >>> 
> >>> Maybe its not a problem with IOS9 just can't remember.
> >>> 
> >>> If I can give her a way to do it reliably I would prefer that as opposed 
> >>> to going over there to do it for her.
> >>> 
> >>> Better to teach a person to fish...
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks in advance.
> >>> 
> >>> Don
> >>> 
> >>> 
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Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

[christopher hallsworth]

No it will not proceed in that language.
> On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:36, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> Ok and if it is not spoken in english  then how do you know what to doubletap.
> 
> If you doubl tap on someing in another language then won't the setup proceed 
> in that language?
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> On 16-Oct-15 2:32 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>> Double tap slide to set up which may be displayed and spoken in a different 
>> language every few seconds.
>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:29, Don Breda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A friend called me and asked me to help her updae her phone to IOS9.
>>> 
>>> She was concerned about the hello screen with all the differnet languages 
>>> that comes up once the os OS is installed and the phone reboots.
>>> 
>>> In the past this screen has proven problematic with voiceover.
>>> 
>>> I dont' remember what i did to get past it.
>>> 
>>> Any tips on how to handle that?
>>> 
>>> Maybe its not a problem with IOS9 just can't remember.
>>> 
>>> If I can give her a way to do it reliably I would prefer that as opposed to 
>>> going over there to do it for her.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Andy Baracco]

I think he wanted to download it to play on another device perhaps. I 
downloaded it and transfered it to an SD card to play on my VRS. You can 
also use Dropbox to transfer it to your iPhone to play in Voice dream 
Reader.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: jazzyjennifer

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

yeah just click the link, and it should start playing,

On 10/15/2015 7:56 PM, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
Just click the link.

- Original Message -
From: Gerardo Corripio  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:45 am
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling



   How would I go about downloading the file from this page? I'd like to
save it on my PC

El 15/10/2015 05:58 p.m., jazzyjennifer escribió:

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling,
this way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is
set up. and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT


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RE: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain

[M. Taylor]

Krister,

When using the Field of View report, it is not necessary to receive a zero 
degree rotation.  

My experience has been that as long as I get either a plus or minus 6-8 degree 
rotation, I take the picture and have excellent results.  

Why is the degree of rotation important.  The short anser is that, generally 
speaking, the less rotation, the better the OCR.

However, all things being equal, that is to say, the font is large enough and 
the paper contrast is good enough, etc, the app can recognize most text without 
a zero degree rotation.

If, however, you were scanning a document that used extremely stylized text or 
that was very, very small or that had a reflective serfice, then a smaller 
degree of rotation may give you better OCR results

Oh, to your original question, the degree of rotation is based on a clock.  So, 
if you receive a message a plus 7 degrees clockwise rotation message, during 
the field of view report, then rotate the phone a little bit counterclockwise, 
that is to say, from right to left, as though you were counting down or 
backward on a analog clock face.

Finally, I find that I can usually get the photo in one shot if I stand, rather 
than sit, when using the app.  Of course, I do have some vision and doubtless 
this is a tremendous advantage when taking a photo.  

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain

I'll add to Richard's and Sieghard's excellent comments. 

I think contrast is very important in getting a reliable field of view report 
particularly where the four corners are concerned. Since most pages I scan are 
white, I saved an old TV tray top that is dark green. This makes a great 
surface to place my pages on before doing a KNFB field of view report. If you 
have a table that you know is a darker brown, that also would provide good 
background contrast for white pages being scanned. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Krister,
> 
> I suggest you try out Richard's suggestion and figure out what works best for 
> you. I prefer to use KNFB Reader in portrait mode since it's more intuitive 
> for me to just put the page in front of me like I would read it, but 
> essentially I do the same, i.e. put the phone so the camera corner is approx. 
> in the middle of the page, I check to see if the left edge of the phone is 
> roughly parallel to the edge of the paper, then I raide the phone up a good 
> foot and do my thing. It's better to raise it a bit too high rather than 
> having it too low, a few inches more don't seem to make a difference when it 
> comes to accuracy of the OCR and you are more likely to have all four edges 
> of the page in view.
> 
> Now, if, for example, the app tells you that the phone only sees the top and 
> the left edge, then you have to move the phone a bit right and down since 
> obviously it doesn't see those edges.
> 
> If it says you are 10 degrees counter clockwise, then just turn the phone 
> slightly clockwise. You can actually test this by deliveratly turning the 
> phone either clockwise or counter clockwise, let's say at least 45 degrees, 
> so about half way between portrait and landscape. Then do a field of view 
> report and see what it says, now try to hold the phone more or less straight 
> and do it again. Compare what it said, doing it sort of by extremes can 
> really help to bring the point home. It doesn't matter if you turn the phone 
> clockwise or counter clockwise, just make sure you take notice if it says 40 
> degrees clockwise and you then rotate it counter clockwise by approximately 
> that amount and now it says 5 degrees clockwise you know you turned it the 
> right way, but not quite enough, if it now says 8 degrees counter clockwise 
> you know you turned it the right way but a bit too much. I find that if it's 
> less than 5 degrees the results are usually very good since the app of course 
> corrects for a small amount of error.
> The vibration I assume is self-explanatory, if the phone vibrates you are 
> holding it tipped side to side or front to back and you just have to make 
> very small adjustments until it stops vibrating.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain
> 
> Hi and thanks for that explanation. I actually never thought about having the 
> document in landscape, probably because i always have the phone in portrait, 
> but it’s certainly well worth trying. What does that ”rotated so and so many 
> degrees clockwise” 

Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

[Rajmund]

Hello,
If you double tap something but English, you have to set it up in that 
language. Although, when I got to the password bit, and because I didn't have a 
password, when I turned it off and on, it started from the language again, but 
I'd rather not try a different language, unless you know the language.

- Original Message -
From: Don Breda  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

>
>
> Ok and if it is not spoken in english  then how do you know what to 
> doubletap.
> 
> If you doubl tap on someing in another language then won't the setup 
> proceed in that language?
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> On 16-Oct-15 2:32 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
> > Double tap slide to set up which may be displayed and spoken in a different 
> > language every few seconds.
> >> On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:29, Don Breda  wrote:
> >>
> >> A friend called me and asked me to help her updae her phone to IOS9.
> >>
> >> She was concerned about the hello screen with all the differnet languages 
> >> that comes up once the os OS is installed and the phone reboots.
> >>
> >> In the past this screen has proven problematic with voiceover.
> >>
> >> I dont' remember what i did to get past it.
> >>
> >> Any tips on how to handle that?
> >>
> >> Maybe its not a problem with IOS9 just can't remember.
> >>
> >> If I can give her a way to do it reliably I would prefer that as opposed 
> >> to going over there to do it for her.
> >>
> >> Better to teach a person to fish...
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
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Re: Resetting iphone 5C to pass on to somebody else

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Andrew,

I don't think you can do anything with the phone if it doesn't have a sim card 
in it. Do all your resetting, removing from iCloud, etc. and remove the sim 
card once you've made sure the phone is erased. Your relative will need a sim 
card to be able to use the phone.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 16, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just wanted to ask your advice how best to reset my iphone 5C which I'm going 
> to pass onto a family member.  can I reset it after I've removed the SIM card 
> from it?  Or do I have to reset it while my sIM card is still in it?  I will 
> be using the same sIM card with my new iphone 6S.  I'm just not sure whether 
> you can reset the iphone without the SIM card being in it.
> 
> Many thanks for any advice.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

[Don Breda]

Ok and if it is not spoken in english  then how do you know what to 
doubletap.


If you doubl tap on someing in another language then won't the setup 
proceed in that language?


Don



On 16-Oct-15 2:32 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Double tap slide to set up which may be displayed and spoken in a different 
language every few seconds.

On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:29, Don Breda  wrote:

A friend called me and asked me to help her updae her phone to IOS9.

She was concerned about the hello screen with all the differnet languages that 
comes up once the os OS is installed and the phone reboots.

In the past this screen has proven problematic with voiceover.

I dont' remember what i did to get past it.

Any tips on how to handle that?

Maybe its not a problem with IOS9 just can't remember.

If I can give her a way to do it reliably I would prefer that as opposed to 
going over there to do it for her.

Better to teach a person to fish...

Thanks in advance.

Don


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Re: Looking for a ring tone app

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all,

I suggest for you to go to contact and you can find ring tone. if you pick 
your favorite people yo like more, thengo edit your favorite peole and 
change ring tone as yo like. your choice. . so that this would give you 
opporutnities to know whose ring tones belong to. anywya, for anyone you 
don't necessarily follow, let this go as routine. but it is worth for yo to 
look after your favorite people and yo set up what way you want on ring 
tone.  for each favorite person. good luck!


maybe my suggestion is not good enough.

rich


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From: Meagan Daniels

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:50 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Looking for a ring tone app

On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 6:44:30 PM UTC-4, Jen wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for a ring tone app.  I’ve heard of zedge but did try but
can’t get any of the tones to preview.  What do other’s use around here 
and

like.

Thanks.

Jen


Hi Jen,

Have you tried going to settings in the zedge app, and tapping autopreview 
ringtones? It will not select like a normal button, but tap it and wait for 
it to say on. It will be a little bit delayed. That's how I got mine to 
play.

Meagan

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Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?

[Casey]

	hi so what windows voice do you like and currently use with your screen 
reader.




On 10/10/2015 8:45 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I think this falls under the category of the subjective nature  of speech 
synthesizers.  It is really a matter of personal preference.

I personally can't stand Eloquence or Keynote.
But that is my point, everyone hears differently and has different aspects of 
voices they like and dislike.

I truly hope you find a voice that works for you.

Take care,
Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?

Hello,
I don't have windows, just heard it. I am used to eloquence, and the old 
keynote voice. Strangely, though, when I played with a first generation stream, 
on that, Samantha handled the punctuation marks better, in my opinion.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:29 pm
Subject: RE: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?




Which speech synthesizer are you using on Windows?
If you are also using Eloquence there, then it could be you are so used to the 
way Eloquence speaks that you have not gotten used to the other voices.
Hopefully, it will come in time.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?

Hello,
Hmm. Strange. As I said, its probably just me not used to it, but I do find 
punctuated messages more clear on windows, or note takers, for that matter.. 
Oh, sorry for the spelling errors, I thought I capitalised I, and added the ' 
obviously I haven't.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2015 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?




I just read both your message and Alex Hall's message in this thread at 80% and 
85% using the American Female Siri voice and the pauses for commas were very 
clear to me.
Richard



On Oct 10, 2015, at 5:06 AM, rajmund  wrote:

Well, I'm trying all voices, and i think the Ssri voices are slightly better, 
but not there yet. Ill get used to it, I guess.,

Sent from an  IPad


On 10 Oct 2015, at 12:34, Alex Hall  wrote:

I have to say, I've never experienced this. I use Samantha or one of the 
American Siri voices all the time, between 75 and 85 percent, and I use Alex on 
my Mac. so I have a lot of experience at the speed you're using. I suppose it's 
something you get used to, because it's something I've never picked up on.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 10, 2015, at 04:27, Rajmund  wrote:

Hello All,
So, let me just try and explain this. As many of you know, and as my signature 
suggests, am coming from note takers. So that's mainly things like eloquence, 
and a few others. So here's my issue. And I know this will sound like  I'm 
picky, but really. I have the note takers on the fastest speech rate, and I 
find them too slow. With voice over, however, I find 75% too slow, but if I 
increase it, I understand no word, if it reads a long passage, but otherwise, 
too slow. So something like I had a nice day, though. And i had a nice day 
though will sound the same. Its as if commas are completely ignored , rather 
than insert a pause, etc. Guess its the emotion, or something. Anyway, anyone 
noticed this? If so,  have you found a particular voice that was better at it 
than others? I have so far tried Daniel, Samantha, Female British Siri, and 
just trying Alex. But if someone does know of something, please, tell  me about 
it? Or do you just eventually get used to it?

PS. When I say increased, I mean something like 80%, and its too quick. 
Otherwise,,  too slow. And I do get a headache from slow speech rates.
Anyway, many thanks!

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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Andy Baracco]

Go to www.applevis.com and there are instructions as to how to submit 
content to them. it will have a much wider distribution if you do that.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: jazzyjennifer

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

i dont know how to submit it to appple vis, never sent an audio tutorial
to them,

On 10/15/2015 10:19 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

You should submit it to Applevis.

Andy


-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
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Subject: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, this
way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is set up.
and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT



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Re: Cannot successfully go between two phone calls

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I get the same buttons, but to get back to the previous call, do I
still have to hide the keypad? In previous versions, I didn't have to
do that. Herein lies my problem.

On 10/15/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> What do you see on the screen when you are on a phone call and take the
> phone away from your ear? The buttons are all there and the only way they
> wouldn't be is if the keypad is active in which case you have to double tap
> the "hide keypad" button at the bottom right.
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> When I get a second call I have buttons for "hold and Accept" or "End and
> Accept".
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> Regards,
> Sieghard
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> -Original Message-
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> Of Sharonda Greenlaw
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Cannot successfully go between two phone calls
>
> Hello all,
> Since updating to iOS nine, I have not been able to go between two phone
> calls. It used to be very much possible and I OS 8, because there were
> buttons that say merge calls or or take one call I don't remember the
> correct terminology. However now when I tap with two fingers, I don't
> successfully go to the other call. And neither do I see those buttons. Has
> anyone else had this phenomena? If so what did you do? I have the iPhone 6.
> Thank you
>
> Sharonda
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Cribbage

[Lynette Frison]

Hi,

Does anyone know of any other cribbage games for iOs that are accessible with 
VO? I use cribbage pro, but it has some VO issues and when I've written to the 
developer about them, I was told VO should read the cards being played, which 
it doesn't, as well as the count, and a few other things that would make it 
easier and enable me to play faster. Online games are slow for me because I am 
often unaware that it is my turn, or I have to manually check which card my 
opponent has played. Luckily, I have some very patient sighted friends. If 
anyone knows of a crib game that could be played through game centre, for 
example, that would be awesome.

Thanks,
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RE: Resetting iphone 5C to pass on to somebody else

[M. Taylor]

Hello Andrew,

You do not need a SIM card in the phone in order to reset it.

In fact, I strongly suggest that you reset the phone after removing the SIM.  
Why?  Because, if you completely reset the phone after removing the SIM card, 
then it cannot be activated until a new SIM is inserted.  

This is exactly what you want to happen for the new user of the phone as 
activating the phone with the SIM ties the phone and SIM together, in a way, 
from the wireless carrier's perspective.  

Were you to reset the phone with your original SIM inserted, then, upon the 
reset, the phone would automatically be activated on your SIM, again.  While 
this is not a completely bad thing, it is not as clean a solution as my 
recommendation.  

Finally, the following URL is a link to an article that provides the 
recommended steps one should follow before completely resetting the phone, in 
preparation, for resale.

http://9to5mac.com/2015/08/25/how-to-safely-prepare-wipe-your-iphone-for-resale-trade-in/

Good Luck,

Mark

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Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:04 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Resetting iphone 5C to pass on to somebody else

Hi,

Just wanted to ask your advice how best to reset my iphone 5C which I'm going 
to pass onto a family member.  can I reset it after I've removed the SIM card 
from it?  Or do I have to reset it while my sIM card is still in it?  I will be 
using the same sIM card with my new iphone 6S.  I'm just not sure whether you 
can reset the iphone without the SIM card being in it.

Many thanks for any advice.

Andrew

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Re: Looking for a ring tone app

[Meagan Daniels]

On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 6:44:30 PM UTC-4, Jen wrote:
> Hi,  
> 
> I am looking for a ring tone app.  I’ve heard of zedge but did try but 
> can’t get any of the tones to preview.  What do other’s use around here and 
> like.  
> 
> Thanks.  
> 
> Jen 

 Hi Jen,

Have you tried going to settings in the zedge app, and tapping autopreview 
ringtones? It will not select like a normal button, but tap it and wait for it 
to say on. It will be a little bit delayed. That's how I got mine to play. 
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Exactly yes! I'm wanting to first download here to my Laptop, to then 
transfer to my MP3 Player. Any ideas? Saving Target AS, does nothing 
using Thunderbird.


El 16/10/2015 02:13 p.m., Andy Baracco escribió:
I think he wanted to download it to play on another device perhaps. I 
downloaded it and transfered it to an SD card to play on my VRS. You 
can also use Dropbox to transfer it to your iPhone to play in Voice 
dream Reader.


Andy


-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

yeah just click the link, and it should start playing,

On 10/15/2015 7:56 PM, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
Just click the link.

- Original Message -
From: Gerardo Corripio 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:45 am
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling



   How would I go about downloading the file from this page? I'd 
like to

save it on my PC

El 15/10/2015 05:58 p.m., jazzyjennifer escribió:

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling,
this way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is
set up. and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT


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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Andy Baracco]

Jennifer! You did a good job, and you can't control why something works for 
someone and not for someone else.


Andy


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Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

yeah and i dont know how to submit pod casts to apple vis, and i dont
know why some people can get it to play through, and some cant,

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Re: Resetting iphone 5C to pass on to somebody else

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Anna and Mark,

Thank yo ufor you for your responses.  You've put my mind at rest.  

Andrew
> On 16 Oct 2015, at 20:29, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> You do not need a SIM card in the phone in order to reset it.
> 
> In fact, I strongly suggest that you reset the phone after removing the SIM.  
> Why?  Because, if you completely reset the phone after removing the SIM card, 
> then it cannot be activated until a new SIM is inserted.  
> 
> This is exactly what you want to happen for the new user of the phone as 
> activating the phone with the SIM ties the phone and SIM together, in a way, 
> from the wireless carrier's perspective.  
> 
> Were you to reset the phone with your original SIM inserted, then, upon the 
> reset, the phone would automatically be activated on your SIM, again.  While 
> this is not a completely bad thing, it is not as clean a solution as my 
> recommendation.  
> 
> Finally, the following URL is a link to an article that provides the 
> recommended steps one should follow before completely resetting the phone, in 
> preparation, for resale.
> 
> http://9to5mac.com/2015/08/25/how-to-safely-prepare-wipe-your-iphone-for-resale-trade-in/
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Lamanche
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:04 AM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Resetting iphone 5C to pass on to somebody else
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just wanted to ask your advice how best to reset my iphone 5C which I'm going 
> to pass onto a family member.  can I reset it after I've removed the SIM card 
> from it?  Or do I have to reset it while my sIM card is still in it?  I will 
> be using the same sIM card with my new iphone 6S.  I'm just not sure whether 
> you can reset the iphone without the SIM card being in it.
> 
> Many thanks for any advice.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[jazzyjennifer]

thanks andy, i never really did an  audio podcast and posted it in 
public before, i just wanted to do this, so people could get a lay out 
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

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another option you can do. is to open up your internet browser and paste 
teh link in the address bar, and you can save it buy hitting your alt 
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Andy Baracco]

No, It's a standard MP3.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

 Might it be that it needs flash to play? Weird! but OK if it gets
submitted someday to Apple Vis, I'll give it a listen off there.

El 16/10/2015 09:12 a.m., jazzyjennifer escribió:

here is the link for my audio tutorial again

http://twup.me/4vT

On 10/16/2015 9:41 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

 I can't download not even by opening the page. Anyone have it to share?

El 15/10/2015 09:19 p.m., Andy Baracco escribió:

You should submit it to Applevis.

Andy


-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, this
way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is set up.
and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT







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Re: deleting a post from facebook

[Candie Doy]

Hello.

As far as I can see, you haven’t gotten an answer to your question, yet, but if 
someone has already answered, I apologise. Anyway, I haven’t used Facebook in 
quite a while, but I hope this might help you.
1. In your timeline, or while viewing your profile in the 'more' tab, locate 
the post you want to edit.
2. Double tap with two fingers, and a list of buttons will appear, including 
like, share, comment, more, and cancel. The one you want is the button labeled 
'more.'
3. Then, you’ll get more options, including, but not limited to, ‘edit post,’ 
‘edit privacy,’ ‘hide from timeline,’ and ‘delete.’
4. Choose which one you want from there.
I apologise if the wording isn’t completely accurate, but I think it should be 
close enough to accomplish what you want. :-)
I hope this helps you.

Have a great day! ☺️

Sent from Candie's iPhone

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> 
> Hello everyone,
> I was wondering if anyone could help me to delete a post that I posted on my 
> timeline.  I made a couple of typos and would like to edit or delete it.  
> I have an iPhone 6 running ios9.02.  
> 
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Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to comment how 
accessible it is, please.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative


Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
there is both a Mac and a Windows version.

A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
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Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that helpful.
Richard


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M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able to 
either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, 
be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the 
same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to 
resolve this problem.
I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number.

As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to 
know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an 
entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too, 
was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
for Windows.  He said yes.

2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with 
a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may be 
a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I 
had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been 
reported to Apple since as early as the first release of 
iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he returned 
to the line, after visiting the site containing the 
reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an 
isolated issue.

4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
admitted that he was using a Mac to help me 
troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system files 
that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I 
called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC during 
our call.

The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to sync 
my iOS devices.

I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, 
thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to 
resolve the
problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was 
initially downloaded in iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh 
copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my PC.

2.
I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.

3.
I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.

Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no 
synchronization problems.

Mark

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Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[Cathy Inglis]

What is the name of the third-party application you are talking about and this 
post? I have read it and somehow cannot find the name of it. Thanks and Vance 
for the information.

Cathy and Tiny.

> On Oct 15, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> That used to be called DiskAid.
> 
> I should revisit it I guess.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
> there is both a Mac and a Windows version.
> 
> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that helpful.
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able 
> to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, be it audio books, ring 
> tones, music, etc.  
> 
> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the same problem.  As 
> would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to resolve this problem.
> I tried all of them and none worked, for me.  
> 
> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number. 
>  
> 
> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
> and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to know that the tech was 
> very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an entire afternoon to 
> resolving this problem, I, too, was very patient and polite.
> 
> 1.
> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
> for Windows.  He said yes.  
> 
> 2.
> He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
> running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with a 5 S with no
> problem during our call.   
> 
> 3.
> Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may 
> be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I had prepared a URL to 
> give to the tech to prove that this problem has been reported to Apple since 
> as early as the first release of iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot 
> of satisfaction when he returned to the line, after visiting the site 
> containing the reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that 
> mine was an isolated issue.
> 
> 4.
> After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
> admitted that he was using a Mac to help me troubleshoot.  This came up 
> because we were searching for some system files that clearly do not exist on 
> a Windows PC.  When I called him out on this, he admitted that he was not 
> using a Windows PC during our call.
> 
> The Surprise:
> 5.
> He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to sync 
> my iOS devices.
> 
> I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.  
> 
> He was unable to resolve my problem.
> 
> However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
> matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, thankfully, it was 
> successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to resolve the
> problem:
> 
> 1.
> Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
> system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was initially downloaded in 
> iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my 
> PC.
> 
> 2.
> I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.
> 
> 3.
> I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.
> 
> Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no 
> synchronization problems.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Going back one screen from the bluetooth keyboard when there's no escape key?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi, see answers below:

> 15 okt. 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Flor Lynch :
> 
> VoiceOver keys +b?
> 
Nah, that reads the screen from the cursor position. I have actually found out 
by reading the manual for the keyboard model that this is perfectly normal 
behaviour. Since it is a cross platform model meant to work on all major 
smartphone platforms there’s only an escape key for windows Os when the 
keyboard works with Android or iOs it presses the home button. This is also why 
in an earlier thread i was asking if anyone knew how the Zagg Pocket keyboard 
worked, if there is an escape key there or if there’s just a key to press the 
home button.
/Krister

> -Original Message- From: Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Going back one screen from the bluetooth keyboard when there's no 
> escape key?
> 
> Hi,
> As i have mentioned before i have bought myself a foldable bluetooth keyboard 
> which is compatible with all major mobile phone platforms like Windows, iOs 
> and Android. Now i have a little query: I wrote before and said that the 
> keyboard hadn’t an escape key, well turns out it has, only it sends the 
> command to press the home button instead of going back one screen as it 
> should do with Voiceover, correct? So how would i then go back one screen 
> rapidly without having to search the whole screen around for a back button? 
> Can it at all be done with this kind of keyboard?
> /Krister
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Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[christopher hallsworth]

iMazing

> On 16 Oct 2015, at 08:38, Cathy Inglis  wrote:
> 
> What is the name of the third-party application you are talking about and 
> this post? I have read it and somehow cannot find the name of it. Thanks and 
> Vance for the information.
> 
> Cathy and Tiny.
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That used to be called DiskAid.
>> 
>> I should revisit it I guess.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
>> Technical Support Representative
>> 
>> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
>> there is both a Mac and a Windows version.
>> 
>> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
>> Technical Support Representative
>> 
>> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that 
>> helpful.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
>> Support Representative
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able 
>> to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, be it audio books, 
>> ring tones, music, etc.  
>> 
>> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
>> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the same problem.  As 
>> would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to resolve this problem.
>> I tried all of them and none worked, for me.  
>> 
>> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support 
>> number.  
>> 
>> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
>> and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to know that the tech was 
>> very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an entire afternoon to 
>> resolving this problem, I, too, was very patient and polite.
>> 
>> 1.
>> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
>> for Windows.  He said yes.  
>> 
>> 2.
>> He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
>> running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with a 5 S with no
>> problem during our call.   
>> 
>> 3.
>> Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may 
>> be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I had prepared a URL 
>> to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been reported to Apple 
>> since as early as the first release of iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave 
>> me a lot of satisfaction when he returned to the line, after visiting the 
>> site containing the reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his 
>> conviction that mine was an isolated issue.
>> 
>> 4.
>> After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
>> admitted that he was using a Mac to help me troubleshoot.  This came up 
>> because we were searching for some system files that clearly do not exist on 
>> a Windows PC.  When I called him out on this, he admitted that he was not 
>> using a Windows PC during our call.
>> 
>> The Surprise:
>> 5.
>> He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to 
>> sync my iOS devices.
>> 
>> I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.  
>> 
>> He was unable to resolve my problem.
>> 
>> However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
>> matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, thankfully, it was 
>> successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to resolve the
>> problem:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
>> system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was initially downloaded in 
>> iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh copy of iOS 9.0.2 to 
>> my PC.
>> 
>> 2.
>> I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.
>> 
>> 3.
>> I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.
>> 
>> Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no 
>> synchronization problems.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hello,
I have been using the KNFB reader for a good while now and think it’s pretty 
decent. It does what it’s supposed to do i guess and does it well. This rant is 
about the one feature my stupid brain isn’t capable of comprehending, namely 
the ”field of view” report.

Now i understand that this feature is quite important and that you probably can 
get excellent results out of the KNFB reader if only i understood how to 
interpret and operate the field of view thing. For example i have never, ever, 
ever made four corners visible in a document. All four edges are visible 
alright but only 3 corners are visible all the time and the rotation thing… No 
matter how i adjust the paper, twist my hands into various painful angles, turn 
the phone, turn myself or turn myself, the phone and twist my hands in various 
painful angles all at the same time, it’s always rotated so and so many degrees 
clockwise or anticlockwise and nothing seems to help that. How should i 
interpret the rotating things, they must be there for a reason only i’m too 
dumb to calculate it out for myself. Maybe i’m holding the phone wrong somehow, 
wouldn’t surprice me in the least, but i don’t know how to hold it ”right”.
I would be grateful for any explanation of this so that i know what obvious 
thing i do wrong.
/Krister

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Re: older iphone issues

[Christopher Chaltain]

I have an iPhone 4S, and I haven't noticed any bugs on the 4S that 
others haven't also reported on newer iPhones. I also have an iPhone 5, 
and I see the same bugs on that phone.


On 10/15/2015 02:41 PM, Paul Richard McGann wrote:

to all,
question for you, few friends asked me about older iphones having more
problems due to ios 9? they ask me if there are bugs. I todl htem yes,
but they feel not fair if it is issue for older iphones while we have
new iphones.
some ask me if this happen to yo while using text message or email, do
this occur to be freezing while yo type on bodily messge? just
wondering. thank you1
sincerely,
rich

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Re: Stopping calls from going to all of my devices

[Christopher Chaltain]

And if you're talking about cellular calls, as opposed to FaceTime, go 
into Settings -> Phone and set calls on other devices to off.


On 10/15/2015 12:35 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Denny,

It kind of depends on your end goal.  Based on your question, I will assume 
that you want yours and your wife's devices to ring but not the iPads.

Just turn off FaceTime on the iPads.

If you want to fine tune things a little more, go through all of the Facetime 
settings on each device.

Mark

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Denny Schwab
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Stopping calls from going to all of my devices

Hello,

For a little while now all of our family's devices ring when one of us gets a 
call.  My wife and I use IPhone 6.  When either of us gets a call it rings on 
the other one's phone and both of our IPads.  How can I get this to stop?

Thanks,

Denny

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RE: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Well, it sounds like at least you get a good workout while using the app, grin.

In my opinion, the best way to get used to using the app and making sure you 
have the phone in the right position is to do the following:

1.  put the page you want to scan on a table or desk in landscape mode near the 
edge of the surface closest to you.  So, the long side would be toward you and 
the short sides will be pointed left to right.

2.  lay the phone flat on the page pointed in the same direction as the page, 
so the long side is toward you with the corner that contains the camera as 
close to the center of the page as possible.  
If you have trouble judging where the center is, before you lay the phone on 
the page, fold the page in half the long way, unfold it and then folder it in 
half the short way and lay it back flat on the surface.  That way, where the 
folds meet is the center of the page.  
Place the camera on that spot.

3.  Use both hands to raise the phone straight up about one foot.  I hold the 
corners of the phone with my thumbs and little fingers so my other fingers are 
pointed at each other.  Some people actually put their elbows on the desk to 
help steady their hands.

Once you have the phone about a foot off the page, and level, gently reach a 
finger to the field of view report button and double tap.
A tricky  movement but not too hard.  The main thing it to not tilt the phone 
while doing this.

After a while, you will get used to how high to raise the phone and how to have 
the camera aimed at the center so you can do it with one hand and get good 
scans.

I hope that helped,
Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain

Hello,
I have been using the KNFB reader for a good while now and think it’s pretty 
decent. It does what it’s supposed to do i guess and does it well. This rant is 
about the one feature my stupid brain isn’t capable of comprehending, namely 
the ”field of view” report.

Now i understand that this feature is quite important and that you probably can 
get excellent results out of the KNFB reader if only i understood how to 
interpret and operate the field of view thing. For example i have never, ever, 
ever made four corners visible in a document. All four edges are visible 
alright but only 3 corners are visible all the time and the rotation thing… No 
matter how i adjust the paper, twist my hands into various painful angles, turn 
the phone, turn myself or turn myself, the phone and twist my hands in various 
painful angles all at the same time, it’s always rotated so and so many degrees 
clockwise or anticlockwise and nothing seems to help that. How should i 
interpret the rotating things, they must be there for a reason only i’m too 
dumb to calculate it out for myself. Maybe i’m holding the phone wrong somehow, 
wouldn’t surprice me in the least, but i don’t know how to hold it ”right”.
I would be grateful for any explanation of this so that i know what obvious 
thing i do wrong.
/Krister

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How to hotswitch between running apps in iPhone 6S

[Robin Christopherson]

Dear listers

I think that users who are not running VO are able to ‘force swipe’ between 
running apps on the iPhone 6S. I can’t seem to be able to do this with VO 
running. Can anyone advise?

Thanks, Robin.

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KNFB Reader

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Are there any good tutorials for beginners for KNFB Reader?

Thank you.

John J. Fioravanti, Jr. 

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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Yes have tried with Thunderbird but no go; it saves as an html file.

El 15/10/2015 09:30 p.m., Andy Baracco escribió:
Highlight the link and hit either SHIFT F10 or the right mouse button 
key and arrow down to "Save Target" and hit ENTER and follow the prompts.

This works in WLM and I would assume that it would work in Outlook.
Andy


-Original Message- From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

 How would I go about downloading the file from this page? I'd like to
save it on my PC

El 15/10/2015 05:58 p.m., jazzyjennifer escribió:
hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, 
this way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is 
set up. and how its played


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Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[Russ Kiehne]

Speaking of third-party apps, do you know of a app I can run on my ios 
device that will do some thing like the following?


I connect the ios device to my computer.
Then I run a app on the ios device I would call open in.
Then you could use this app to browse the files on your computer such as: a 
file

called The Case of the Counterfeit Eye.zip.  Doubletap and
hold on the file and get a menu like:

dismiss pop up

AirDrop Button
Mail Button
Open in Voice Dream Button
Open in BARD Mobile Button
Open in Learning Ally Button
Quick view Button


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative


Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
there is both a Mac and a Windows version.


A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

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Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative


Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that 
helpful.

Richard


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Of M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative


Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able 
to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, be it audio books, 
ring tones, music, etc.


After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the same problem.  As 
would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to resolve this problem.

I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support 
number.


As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to know that the tech was 
very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an entire afternoon to 
resolving this problem, I, too, was very patient and polite.


1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
for Windows.  He said yes.


2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with a 5 S with no

problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may 
be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I had prepared a URL 
to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been reported to Apple 
since as early as the first release of iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave 
me a lot of satisfaction when he returned to the line, after visiting the 
site containing the reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his 
conviction that mine was an isolated issue.


4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
admitted that he was using a Mac to help me troubleshoot.  This came up 
because we were searching for some system files that clearly do not exist on 
a Windows PC.  When I called him out on this, he admitted that he was not 
using a Windows PC during our call.


The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to 
sync my iOS devices.


I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, thankfully, it was 
successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to resolve the

problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was initially downloaded in 
iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh copy of iOS 9.0.2 to 
my PC.


2.
I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.

3.
I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.

Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no 
synchronization problems.


Mark

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Re: two finger double tap IOS 9.0.2

[Tom Frank]

I have always had problems hanging up a phone call on my six plus. I found the 
best solution is to do the two finger double tap twice with about one second 
between the double taps.  I recommended this solution to a friend who was 
having the same problem and she said it seems to work.
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> There is also a possibility for operator error, as the device is fussy about 
> how the fingers are placed, and how hard the taps must be.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 4:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: two finger double tap IOS 9.0.2
> 
> This seems to be another bug which effects some and not others since the 
> two-finger double tap worked on my 6S when I first received it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shai
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 4:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: two finger double tap IOS 9.0.2
> 
> Hi Arnold,
> I have noticed the same behavior on my iPhone6s. I now use the end button as 
> you mentioned. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon.
> 
> 
> On 10/12/15, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> For whatever the reason, on my iPhone 6, the two-finger double tap to
>> end a
>> 
>> phone call has never been reliable. I now use the end call button
>> exclusively, which is on the screen, right above the home button.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Nancy Badger" 
>> To: "viphone" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 5:11 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am running iOS 9.02 on my iPhone 6 Plus. When I try to use to finger
>> double tap to hang up a phone call, it also starts my 00 tunes app or
>> my tune in radio app which ever I have used last. Then, two finger
>> double tap will not turn off the ooTunes or the tune in radio. Is
>> anyone else having this problem? Is there anything I can do about it?
>> Thanks
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from
>> my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[jazzyjennifer]

i dont know how to submit it to appple vis, never sent an audio tutorial 
to them,


On 10/15/2015 10:19 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

You should submit it to Applevis.

Andy


-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
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Subject: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, this
way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is set up.
and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT



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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Gerardo Corripio]

 I can't download not even by opening the page. Anyone have it to share?

El 15/10/2015 09:19 p.m., Andy Baracco escribió:

You should submit it to Applevis.

Andy


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Subject: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, this
way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is set up.
and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT



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iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[Richard Turner]

I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and find it 
mostly useless.
I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was also not 
very accessible.  
So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this app?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to comment how 
accessible it is, please.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative


Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
there is both a Mac and a Windows version.

A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that helpful.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able to 
either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, 
be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the 
same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to 
resolve this problem.
I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number.

As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to 
know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an 
entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too, 
was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
for Windows.  He said yes.

2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with 
a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may be 
a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I 
had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been 
reported to Apple since as early as the first release of 
iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he returned 
to the line, after visiting the site containing the 
reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an 
isolated issue.

4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
admitted that he was using a Mac to help me 
troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system files 
that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I 
called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC during 
our call.

The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to sync 
my iOS devices.

I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, 
thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to 
resolve the
problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was 
initially downloaded in iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh 
copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my PC.

2.
I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.

3.
I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.

Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no 
synchronization problems.

Mark

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Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[Daniel Miller]

iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and find 
> it mostly useless.
> I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was also 
> not very accessible.  
> So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this app?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to comment 
> how accessible it is, please.
> 
> BobH.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> 
> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
> there is both a Mac and a Windows version.
> 
> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that helpful.
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
> Support Representative
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able 
> to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, 
> be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.
> 
> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the 
> same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to 
> resolve this problem.
> I tried all of them and none worked, for me.
> 
> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number.
> 
> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
> and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to 
> know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an 
> entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too, 
> was very patient and polite.
> 
> 1.
> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
> for Windows.  He said yes.
> 
> 2.
> He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
> running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with 
> a 5 S with no
> problem during our call.
> 
> 3.
> Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may 
> be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I 
> had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been 
> reported to Apple since as early as the first release of 
> iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he returned 
> to the line, after visiting the site containing the 
> reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an 
> isolated issue.
> 
> 4.
> After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
> admitted that he was using a Mac to help me 
> troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system files 
> that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I 
> called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC during 
> our call.
> 
> The Surprise:
> 5.
> He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to sync 
> my iOS devices.
> 
> I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.
> 
> He was unable to resolve my problem.
> 
> However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
> matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, 
> thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took in order 
> to resolve the
> problem:
> 
> 1.
> Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
> system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was 
> initially downloaded in iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh 
> copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my PC.
> 
> 2.
> I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.
> 
> 3.
> I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.
> 
> Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing 

Re: Blindfold Bowling finally out!

[Russ Kiehne]

You do have the feature to view scores during the game. You shake the ios 
device.

Likewise, I have purchased the unlimited play  in  app purchase.


-Original Message- 
From: Larry Smith

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:39 AM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Blindfold Bowling finally out!

It is the bowlers with averages of I believe 150 and above, that never miss 
spare shots. I don’t mind that, but no one, not even pro bowlers can make 
split shots every time. Smiles, I seem to get Susan who has I think a 194 
average. There is one or two other random people that I get also. I have 
gotten Kathy once or twice. Now she does misses spares from time to time. 
Her average is around 107 I think. As I stated in my previous post, This is 
a nice bowling app for voiceover users. It just needs a bit of adjusting, 
and some added features, such as having the ability to view scores during 
the game. I have purchased the unlimited play  in app purchase.

On Oct 15, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Jim Ruby  wrote:

Wow I found the computer played poorly. I only tried playing against the 
computer once though and I think she sayd her name was cathy.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry Smith

Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:18 PM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Blindfold Bowling finally out!

Blind fold bowling is a nice game. I have contacted the developer, and I 
have gotten a response from him. When playing against the computer, in 
“single finger mode”, it is impossible to win. Smiles, the computer never 
misses a spare shot. No matter what pins are left, and no matter how bit 
the split, the computer will convert the shot every time  smiles! I also 
ask if the scores could be reviewed during the game.

On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:12 AM, jazzyjennifer  wrote:

yeah same here, i am going to grab it too.

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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[jazzyjennifer]

its for IOS

On 10/15/2015 7:45 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
 How would I go about downloading the file from this page? I'd like to 
save it on my PC


El 15/10/2015 05:58 p.m., jazzyjennifer escribió:
hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, 
this way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is 
set up. and how its played


http://twup.me/4vT





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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[jazzyjennifer]

yeah just click the link, and it should start playing,

On 10/15/2015 7:56 PM, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
Just click the link.

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From: Gerardo Corripio  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:45 am
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling



   How would I go about downloading the file from this page? I'd like to
save it on my PC

El 15/10/2015 05:58 p.m., jazzyjennifer escribió:

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling,
this way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is
set up. and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT


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Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?

[rajmund]

Hello,
Well, everyone is different. I got it, though. So, at the bottom, it says 
updated  minutes ago, I swipe left. if I swipe while on a message, that'll 
cycle between messages. LOL, it's now quicker to read things:

Sent from  an iPad using braille screen input. Please excuse any spelling 
errors.

> On 16 Oct 2015, at 3:56 p.m., Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Possibly deleting is the culprit. Try using the edit option instead; hit the 
> edit button, then do the swiping left thing to start at the bottom. Double 
> tap the messages to delete, then use the delete button to get rid of them 
> all. As I said, I've never tried this because I can't see the benefit of 
> reading my mail from oldest to newest.
>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:21, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> So, I've tried your suggestion below just now. I touch the bottom of the 
>> screen. When on the last message, I delete it. When I do that, it loses 
>> focus. Meaning, it goes to the top. Is this a bug, or am I missing something 
>> here? So, I have 40 messages. I scroll down, do a read all. To delete the 
>> message, I have to scroll to the bottom again. Why's that?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall  
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
>> Date: Monday, October 12, 2015 7:35 pm
>> Subject: Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No, but you can easily read from bottom to top if you want to. Just touch 
>>> the bottom left button, then swipe left once, and you're on the last 
>>> message.. No need to scroll anything. Then just keep moving left instead of 
>>> right, and that should do it. I've never done this, as oldest to newest 
>>> makes no sense to me, so there may be problems I don't know about. I'd also 
>>> imagine it's different on an iPad, but the principle is the same. If you 
>>> can come at a table while swiping left instead of right, VO will focus on 
>>> the last item instead of the first.
 On Oct 12, 2015, at 11:23, Rajmund  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I prefer reading messages from oldest to newest. Unfortunately, the IPad 
 doesn't agree, it thinks reading from newest to oldest is a better idea. 
 Is there a way to change it? If so, how, please? If not, a quick way to 
 stay at the bottom? 
 
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RE: bus transit app

[SSEric]

I don't know if they support San Diego, but have you tried either Transit
Times Plus or Bus Tracker.

 

 

 

  _  

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Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bus transit app

 

Hi All,

 

I live in san diego.  What is an accessible app to get the bus and trolley
stop times? 

 

We used to have sdTransit, but it stopped working when I upgraded toiOS 9.

 

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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[jazzyjennifer]

oh ok thanks

On 10/16/2015 10:51 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Jennifer, and anyone else interested in submitting AppleVis content,
Here is the link to submit podcasts to AppleVis, along with links on
this page for their guidelines and other information:
http://www.applevis.com/content/upload-audio-inclusion-podcast
I would encourage anyone to submit content since your podcast will hit
a much larger group of users. Even if you don't like AppleVis, it is a
good way for you to get your content out there. Plus, I'm sure there
are people who subscribe to the AppleVis feed who aren't on this list.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 10/16/15, jazzyjennifer  wrote:

yeah and i dont know how to submit pod casts to apple vis, and i dont
know why some people can get it to play through, and some cant,

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RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Dropbox or OneDrive both should do more or less what you want, only thing is 
that the files the app on your iOS device sees are synced to the cloud. Of 
course they are also in their respective folders inside Dropbox or OneDrive on 
the computer, but the app will see the cloud version. There are other file 
manager apps, but they basically work the same way. Some may actually see the 
files on your computer, I believe one such is "Tonido" but I am not sure if I 
spell this correctly. There was a lot of talk about that app about a year ago.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Speaking of third-party apps, do you know of a app I can run on my ios device 
that will do some thing like the following?

I connect the ios device to my computer.
Then I run a app on the ios device I would call open in.
Then you could use this app to browse the files on your computer such as: a 
file called The Case of the Counterfeit Eye.zip.  Doubletap and hold on the 
file and get a menu like:

dismiss pop up

AirDrop Button
Mail Button
Open in Voice Dream Button
Open in BARD Mobile Button
Open in Learning Ally Button
Quick view Button


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that 
there is both a Mac and a Windows version.

A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that helpful.
Richard


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Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able 
to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, be it audio books, 
ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the same problem.  As 
would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to resolve this problem.
I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support 
number.

As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to know that the tech was 
very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an entire afternoon to 
resolving this problem, I, too, was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
for Windows.  He said yes.

2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may 
be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I had prepared a URL 
to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been reported to Apple 
since as early as the first release of iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave 
me a lot of satisfaction when he returned to the line, after visiting the 
site containing the reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his 
conviction that mine was an isolated issue.

4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
admitted that he was using a Mac to help me troubleshoot.  This came up 
because we were searching for some system files that clearly do not exist on 
a Windows PC.  When I called him out on this, he admitted that he was not 
using a Windows PC during our call.

The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to 
sync my iOS devices.

I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, thankfully, it was 
successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to resolve the
problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
system files, I deleted 

Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?

[Rajmund]

Hello Alex,
So, I've tried your suggestion below just now. I touch the bottom of the 
screen. When on the last message, I delete it. When I do that, it loses focus. 
Meaning, it goes to the top. Is this a bug, or am I missing something here? So, 
I have 40 messages. I scroll down, do a read all. To delete the message, I have 
to scroll to the bottom again. Why's that?

- Original Message -
From: Alex Hall  
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
Date: Monday, October 12, 2015 7:35 pm
Subject: Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?

>
>
> No, but you can easily read from bottom to top if you want to. Just touch the 
> bottom left button, then swipe left once, and you're on the last message.. No 
> need to scroll anything. Then just keep moving left instead of right, and 
> that should do it. I've never done this, as oldest to newest makes no sense 
> to me, so there may be problems I don't know about. I'd also imagine it's 
> different on an iPad, but the principle is the same. If you can come at a 
> table while swiping left instead of right, VO will focus on the last item 
> instead of the first.
> > On Oct 12, 2015, at 11:23, Rajmund  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > I prefer reading messages from oldest to newest. Unfortunately, the IPad 
> > doesn't agree, it thinks reading from newest to oldest is a better idea. Is 
> > there a way to change it? If so, how, please? If not, a quick way to stay 
> > at the bottom? 
> > 
> > Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[jazzyjennifer]

yeah and i dont know how to submit pod casts to apple vis, and i dont 
know why some people can get it to play through, and some cant,


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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Wayne Merritt]

Jennifer, and anyone else interested in submitting AppleVis content,
Here is the link to submit podcasts to AppleVis, along with links on
this page for their guidelines and other information:
http://www.applevis.com/content/upload-audio-inclusion-podcast
I would encourage anyone to submit content since your podcast will hit
a much larger group of users. Even if you don't like AppleVis, it is a
good way for you to get your content out there. Plus, I'm sure there
are people who subscribe to the AppleVis feed who aren't on this list.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 10/16/15, jazzyjennifer  wrote:
> yeah and i dont know how to submit pod casts to apple vis, and i dont
> know why some people can get it to play through, and some cant,
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Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?

[Alex Hall]

Possibly deleting is the culprit. Try using the edit option instead; hit the 
edit button, then do the swiping left thing to start at the bottom. Double tap 
the messages to delete, then use the delete button to get rid of them all. As I 
said, I've never tried this because I can't see the benefit of reading my mail 
from oldest to newest.
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:21, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> So, I've tried your suggestion below just now. I touch the bottom of the 
> screen. When on the last message, I delete it. When I do that, it loses 
> focus. Meaning, it goes to the top. Is this a bug, or am I missing something 
> here? So, I have 40 messages. I scroll down, do a read all. To delete the 
> message, I have to scroll to the bottom again. Why's that?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall  
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
> Date: Monday, October 12, 2015 7:35 pm
> Subject: Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> No, but you can easily read from bottom to top if you want to. Just touch 
>> the bottom left button, then swipe left once, and you're on the last 
>> message.. No need to scroll anything. Then just keep moving left instead of 
>> right, and that should do it. I've never done this, as oldest to newest 
>> makes no sense to me, so there may be problems I don't know about. I'd also 
>> imagine it's different on an iPad, but the principle is the same. If you can 
>> come at a table while swiping left instead of right, VO will focus on the 
>> last item instead of the first.
>>> On Oct 12, 2015, at 11:23, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I prefer reading messages from oldest to newest. Unfortunately, the IPad 
>>> doesn't agree, it thinks reading from newest to oldest is a better idea. Is 
>>> there a way to change it? If so, how, please? If not, a quick way to stay 
>>> at the bottom? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Russ Kiehne]

I used the save target as option on my windows computer and it's now on my 
computer to be played.


-Original Message- 
From: jazzyjennifer

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

yeah and i dont know how to submit pod casts to apple vis, and i dont
know why some people can get it to play through, and some cant,

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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[jazzyjennifer]

here is the link for my audio tutorial again

http://twup.me/4vT

On 10/16/2015 9:41 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

 I can't download not even by opening the page. Anyone have it to share?

El 15/10/2015 09:19 p.m., Andy Baracco escribió:

You should submit it to Applevis.

Andy


-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, this
way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is set up.
and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT





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Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[Paul Richard McGann]

well, I suggest for you to call apple accessibility to get clear facts. I 
suggest to get the name of guy who gave the instructions. if you call 
anyone, and they know might know nothing and not being able to help. if yo 
have the name of guy, get the name and ask group for him and he might be 
there.  he might help yo with something.



-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility 
Technical Support Representative


Speaking of third-party apps, do you know of a app I can run on my ios
device that will do some thing like the following?

I connect the ios device to my computer.
Then I run a app on the ios device I would call open in.
Then you could use this app to browse the files on your computer such as: a
file
called The Case of the Counterfeit Eye.zip.  Doubletap and
hold on the file and get a menu like:

dismiss pop up

AirDrop Button
Mail Button
Open in Voice Dream Button
Open in BARD Mobile Button
Open in Learning Ally Button
Quick view Button


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
Technical Support Representative

Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said that
there is both a Mac and a Windows version.

A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
Technical Support Representative

Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that
helpful.
Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical
Support Representative

Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able
to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, be it audio books,
ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the same problem.  As
would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to resolve this problem.
I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support
number.

As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum
and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to know that the tech was
very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an entire afternoon to
resolving this problem, I, too, was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes
for Windows.  He said yes.

2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may
be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I had prepared a URL
to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been reported to Apple
since as early as the first release of iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave
me a lot of satisfaction when he returned to the line, after visiting the
site containing the reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his
conviction that mine was an isolated issue.

4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently
admitted that he was using a Mac to help me troubleshoot.  This came up
because we were searching for some system files that clearly do not exist on
a Windows PC.  When I called him out on this, he admitted that he was not
using a Windows PC during our call.

The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to
sync my iOS devices.

I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, thankfully, it was
successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to resolve the
problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the
system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was initially downloaded in
iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh copy of iOS 9.0.2 to
my PC.

2.
I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.

3.
I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.

Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no
synchronization 

Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Might it be that it needs flash to play? Weird! but OK if it gets 
submitted someday to Apple Vis, I'll give it a listen off there.


El 16/10/2015 09:12 a.m., jazzyjennifer escribió:

here is the link for my audio tutorial again

http://twup.me/4vT

On 10/16/2015 9:41 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

 I can't download not even by opening the page. Anyone have it to share?

El 15/10/2015 09:19 p.m., Andy Baracco escribió:

You should submit it to Applevis.

Andy


-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, this
way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is set up.
and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT







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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[jazzyjennifer]

ausom,

On 10/16/2015 10:42 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
I used the save target as option on my windows computer and it's now 
on my computer to be played.


-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

yeah and i dont know how to submit pod casts to apple vis, and i dont
know why some people can get it to play through, and some cant,



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RE: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What Alex suggests should work fine and yes, the focus jumping to the top is a 
bug but there is always hope that when iOS 9.1 comes out in 2 or 3 weeks that 
it will be fixed.
Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Hall
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:57 AM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?

Possibly deleting is the culprit. Try using the edit option instead; hit the 
edit button, then do the swiping left thing to start at the bottom. Double tap 
the messages to delete, then use the delete button to get rid of them all. As I 
said, I've never tried this because I can't see the benefit of reading my mail 
from oldest to newest.
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:21, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> So, I've tried your suggestion below just now. I touch the bottom of the 
> screen. When on the last message, I delete it. When I do that, it loses 
> focus. Meaning, it goes to the top. Is this a bug, or am I missing something 
> here? So, I have 40 messages. I scroll down, do a read all. To delete the 
> message, I have to scroll to the bottom again. Why's that?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall  
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
> Date: Monday, October 12, 2015 7:35 pm
> Subject: Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> No, but you can easily read from bottom to top if you want to. Just touch 
>> the bottom left button, then swipe left once, and you're on the last 
>> message.. No need to scroll anything. Then just keep moving left instead of 
>> right, and that should do it. I've never done this, as oldest to newest 
>> makes no sense to me, so there may be problems I don't know about. I'd also 
>> imagine it's different on an iPad, but the principle is the same. If you can 
>> come at a table while swiping left instead of right, VO will focus on the 
>> last item instead of the first.
>>> On Oct 12, 2015, at 11:23, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I prefer reading messages from oldest to newest. Unfortunately, the IPad 
>>> doesn't agree, it thinks reading from newest to oldest is a better idea. Is 
>>> there a way to change it? If so, how, please? If not, a quick way to stay 
>>> at the bottom? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?

[rajmund]

Hello there,


OK, thanks. but especially regarding the focus bug; wasn't sure whether it was 
me or what. So, thanks for that.

Sent from  an iPad using braille screen input. Please excuse any spelling 
errors.

> On 16 Oct 2015, at 4:45 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> What Alex suggests should work fine and yes, the focus jumping to the top is 
> a bug but there is always hope that when iOS 9.1 comes out in 2 or 3 weeks 
> that it will be fixed.
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Hall
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:57 AM
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?
> 
> Possibly deleting is the culprit. Try using the edit option instead; hit the 
> edit button, then do the swiping left thing to start at the bottom. Double 
> tap the messages to delete, then use the delete button to get rid of them 
> all. As I said, I've never tried this because I can't see the benefit of 
> reading my mail from oldest to newest.
>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:21, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> So, I've tried your suggestion below just now. I touch the bottom of the 
>> screen. When on the last message, I delete it. When I do that, it loses 
>> focus. Meaning, it goes to the top. Is this a bug, or am I missing something 
>> here? So, I have 40 messages. I scroll down, do a read all. To delete the 
>> message, I have to scroll to the bottom again. Why's that?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall  
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
>> Date: Monday, October 12, 2015 7:35 pm
>> Subject: Re: Default mailing app. Can it be customised?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No, but you can easily read from bottom to top if you want to. Just touch 
>>> the bottom left button, then swipe left once, and you're on the last 
>>> message.. No need to scroll anything. Then just keep moving left instead of 
>>> right, and that should do it. I've never done this, as oldest to newest 
>>> makes no sense to me, so there may be problems I don't know about. I'd also 
>>> imagine it's different on an iPad, but the principle is the same. If you 
>>> can come at a table while swiping left instead of right, VO will focus on 
>>> the last item instead of the first.
 On Oct 12, 2015, at 11:23, Rajmund  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I prefer reading messages from oldest to newest. Unfortunately, the IPad 
 doesn't agree, it thinks reading from newest to oldest is a better idea. 
 Is there a way to change it? If so, how, please? If not, a quick way to 
 stay at the bottom? 
 
 Sent from a Braille Sense 
 
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Re: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi and thanks for that explanation. I actually never thought about having the 
document in landscape, probably because i always have the phone in portrait, 
but it’s certainly well worth trying. What does that ”rotated so and so many 
degrees clockwise” mean and what does it refer to? Is it the paper you should 
adjust then?
/Krister

> 16 okt. 2015 kl. 14:50 skrev Richard Turner :
> 
> Hi,
> Well, it sounds like at least you get a good workout while using the app, 
> grin.
> 
> In my opinion, the best way to get used to using the app and making sure you 
> have the phone in the right position is to do the following:
> 
> 1.  put the page you want to scan on a table or desk in landscape mode near 
> the edge of the surface closest to you.  So, the long side would be toward 
> you and the short sides will be pointed left to right.
> 
> 2.  lay the phone flat on the page pointed in the same direction as the page, 
> so the long side is toward you with the corner that contains the camera as 
> close to the center of the page as possible.  
> If you have trouble judging where the center is, before you lay the phone on 
> the page, fold the page in half the long way, unfold it and then folder it in 
> half the short way and lay it back flat on the surface.  That way, where the 
> folds meet is the center of the page.  
> Place the camera on that spot.
> 
> 3.  Use both hands to raise the phone straight up about one foot.  I hold the 
> corners of the phone with my thumbs and little fingers so my other fingers 
> are pointed at each other.  Some people actually put their elbows on the desk 
> to help steady their hands.
> 
> Once you have the phone about a foot off the page, and level, gently reach a 
> finger to the field of view report button and double tap.
> A tricky  movement but not too hard.  The main thing it to not tilt the phone 
> while doing this.
> 
> After a while, you will get used to how high to raise the phone and how to 
> have the camera aimed at the center so you can do it with one hand and get 
> good scans.
> 
> I hope that helped,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A rant about KNFB Reader and my very, very small brain
> 
> Hello,
> I have been using the KNFB reader for a good while now and think it’s pretty 
> decent. It does what it’s supposed to do i guess and does it well. This rant 
> is about the one feature my stupid brain isn’t capable of comprehending, 
> namely the ”field of view” report.
> 
> Now i understand that this feature is quite important and that you probably 
> can get excellent results out of the KNFB reader if only i understood how to 
> interpret and operate the field of view thing. For example i have never, 
> ever, ever made four corners visible in a document. All four edges are 
> visible alright but only 3 corners are visible all the time and the rotation 
> thing… No matter how i adjust the paper, twist my hands into various painful 
> angles, turn the phone, turn myself or turn myself, the phone and twist my 
> hands in various painful angles all at the same time, it’s always rotated so 
> and so many degrees clockwise or anticlockwise and nothing seems to help 
> that. How should i interpret the rotating things, they must be there for a 
> reason only i’m too dumb to calculate it out for myself. Maybe i’m holding 
> the phone wrong somehow, wouldn’t surprice me in the least, but i don’t know 
> how to hold it ”right”.
> I would be grateful for any explanation of this so that i know what obvious 
> thing i do wrong.
> /Krister
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SoundCloud on the iPhone?

[Jim Portillo]

Hello.  I am kind of needing to use a service such as SoundCloud to share some 
things on Facebook.  However, I can't seem to figure a lot of it out, and what 
I do figure out is partial.  
Has anyone had luck using SoundCloud recently?  I guess from what I've been 
told, the layout has changed.
I'd love to hear from any SoundCloud iPhone users out there because I'm needing 
some tips.
Thanks so much.
Jim


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The Verge: Intel reportedly has 'army' of people working on Apple's next iPhone chip

[Alan Paganelli]

Intel reportedly has 'army' of people working on Apple's next iPhone chip
The Verge

Intel is pouring resources into a project to supply Apple's next iPhone with 
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RE: Blindfold Bowling finally out!

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You can shake your phone and it will announce your score.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Smith
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:40 PM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Blindfold Bowling finally out!

It is the bowlers with averages of I believe 150 and above, that never miss  
spare shots. I don’t mind that, but no one, not even pro bowlers can make split 
shots every time. Smiles, I seem to get Susan who has I think a 194 average. 
There is one or two other random people that I get also. I have gotten Kathy 
once or twice. Now she does misses spares from time to time. Her average is 
around 107 I think. As I stated in my previous post, This is a nice bowling app 
for voiceover users. It just needs a bit of adjusting, and some added features, 
such as having the ability to view scores during the game. I have purchased the 
unlimited play  in app purchase.
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Jim Ruby  wrote:
> 
> Wow I found the computer played poorly. I only tried playing against the 
> computer once though and I think she sayd her name was cathy.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:18 PM
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Blindfold Bowling finally out!
> 
> Blind fold bowling is a nice game. I have contacted the developer, and I have 
> gotten a response from him. When playing against the computer, in “single 
> finger mode”, it is impossible to win. Smiles, the computer never misses a 
> spare shot. No matter what pins are left, and no matter how bit the split, 
> the computer will convert the shot every time  smiles! I also ask if the 
> scores could be reviewed during the game. 
>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:12 AM, jazzyjennifer  wrote:
>> 
>> yeah same here, i am going to grab it too.
>> 
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Victor Gouveia]

Because so many people are having trouble downloading the file and/or 
playing it, I've taken the liberty of uploading the file to Send Space.


Here's the download link:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/mo74kb

Enjoy.


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-Original Message- 
From: jazzyjennifer

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

here is the link for my audio tutorial again

http://twup.me/4vT

On 10/16/2015 9:41 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

 I can't download not even by opening the page. Anyone have it to share?

El 15/10/2015 09:19 p.m., Andy Baracco escribió:

You should submit it to Applevis.

Andy


-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, this
way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is set up.
and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT





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RE: A Question To Those Running iOS 9.02 on an iPhone 5 S Syncing with iTunes for Windows

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Mark,

I don't do ring tones but I do synch music and apps. I do a regular backup to 
iCloud and to my computer and, of course, I always do my updates using iTunes.

Ron & Danvers
 phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question To Those Running iOS 9.02 on an iPhone 5 S Syncing with 
iTunes for Windows

Hello Ron,

Thank you for your reply;

Just to be sure we're on the same page, are you saying that you have no 
problems adding or removing music, books, ring tones, etc to and from your 5 S, 
via iTunes for Windows on your PC?  That is, you make the media changes on your 
PC, then attach the phone, then sync?

Is that right?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question To Those Running iOS 9.02 on an iPhone 5 S Syncing with 
iTunes for Windows

Hi,

I have your exact configuration.  Everything worked well after I re-booted the 
phone.  Before that, I had a problem with the blue tooth keyboard putting in 
double letters.  After that, everything is just fine.

Ron & Danvers


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question To Those Running iOS 9.02 on an iPhone 5 S Syncing with 
iTunes for Windows

Hello, Everyone,

As I received no reply to my question, in a different thread, I thought I would 
try a different approach.  

Is there anyone successfully synchronizing an iPhone 5 S, running iOS 9.02, 
with iTunes for Windows?  

If so, did you initially encounter any syncing difficulties and if so, how were 
they resolved?

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Victor Gouveia]

You can also copy the link to your clipboard, then, use your player to play 
the content by pasting the link into the open dialog box of what ever player 
you use.


For example, if you use Winamp on a Windows computer, open up the main 
window and press control+L.


In the resulting dialog box, paste the link and press enter.

The link should start playing right away, or, if it doesn't, simply press 
the spacebar and it'll start the playback.


This should be common with any player, especially if you are able to stream 
content from the internet, such as podcasts and the like.


This can also be done with Windows Media Player, VLC Media player and other 
players.


I'm sorry, but I don't know how this process happens with a MAC computer, so 
someone else will have to chime in on the thread who uses these devices.


Good luck.


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-Original Message- 
From: jazzyjennifer

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

yeah just click the link, and it should start playing,

On 10/15/2015 7:56 PM, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
Just click the link.

- Original Message -
From: Gerardo Corripio  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:45 am
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling



   How would I go about downloading the file from this page? I'd like to
save it on my PC

El 15/10/2015 05:58 p.m., jazzyjennifer escribió:

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling,
this way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is
set up. and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT


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Help with myway classic

[Jeremy Gilley]

Hey all,

 

Could use some help. With the loss of what remaining vision I had, I can no
longer navigate through my apartment parking lot as easily as I once did.

Someone mentioned that with myway classic, someone could pinpoint certain
points within a rout to help navigate them where they are.

Well, I need to mark a certain turnoff, or avenue that I need to turn off.

Unfortunately, there are no sidewalks to help me mark certain points, only
curbs.

Can someone by chance email me off list so we don't clutter the list with
some directions as to how I can set up markers?

I thought someone said just shake the phone, but when I tried it this
morning, nothing happened.

I tried to find a simple manual, but couldn't find any.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Wow thanks a lot! Am downloading as I EMail.

El 16/10/2015 05:45 p.m., Victor Gouveia escribió:
Because so many people are having trouble downloading the file and/or 
playing it, I've taken the liberty of uploading the file to Send Space.


Here's the download link:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/mo74kb

Enjoy.


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-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

here is the link for my audio tutorial again

http://twup.me/4vT

On 10/16/2015 9:41 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

 I can't download not even by opening the page. Anyone have it to share?

El 15/10/2015 09:19 p.m., Andy Baracco escribió:

You should submit it to Applevis.

Andy


-Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

hi guys, figure i would do an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling, this
way people could get a lay out of the game on how the screan is set up.
and how its played

http://twup.me/4vT







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Calendar Widget

[Chris Chaffin]

Have a question regarding the widget of the native calendar app.
I have noticed that any all day event does not show up on the Today screen.  Is 
this the way it is suppose to be, or is there a setting that I am not aware of?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[Dani Pagador]

Yes, but what are you using to access it? A little more info, please???

Thanks,
Dani

On 10/16/15, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.
>
>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and
>> find it mostly useless.
>> I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was
>> also not very accessible.
>> So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this
>> app?
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>> Technical Support Representative
>>
>> I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to
>> comment how accessible it is, please.
>>
>> BobH.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "M. Taylor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>> Technical Support Representative
>>
>>
>> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said
>> that there is both a Mac and a Windows version.
>>
>> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
>> Technical Support Representative
>>
>> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that
>> helpful.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical
>> Support Representative
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been
>> able to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S,
>> be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.
>>
>> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for
>> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the
>> same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to
>> resolve this problem.
>> I tried all of them and none worked, for me.
>>
>> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support
>> number.
>>
>> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the
>> sum and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to
>> know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated
>> an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too,
>> was very patient and polite.
>>
>> 1.
>> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using
>> iTunes for Windows.  He said yes.
>>
>> 2.
>> He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S
>> running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with
>> a 5 S with no
>> problem during our call.
>>
>> 3.
>> Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there
>> may be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I
>> had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been
>> reported to Apple since as early as the first release of
>> iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he
>> returned to the line, after visiting the site containing the
>> reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an
>> isolated issue.
>>
>> 4.
>> After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he
>> inadvertently admitted that he was using a Mac to help me
>> troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system
>> files that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I
>> called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC
>> during our call.
>>
>> The Surprise:
>> 5.
>> He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to
>> sync my iOS devices.
>>
>> I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.
>>
>> He was unable to resolve my problem.
>>
>> However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the
>> matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and,
>> thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took in
>> order to resolve the
>> problem:
>>
>> 1.
>> Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding
>> the system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was
>> initially downloaded in iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a
>> fresh copy of 

Re: Cribbage

[Richard Turner]

I have not played Cribbage Pro since the last update, but it has always read 
the cards being played, and the scores just fine.
You can also then slide your finger around and read them.
Richard


> On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Lynette Frison <1baby1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know of any other cribbage games for iOs that are accessible with 
> VO? I use cribbage pro, but it has some VO issues and when I've written to 
> the developer about them, I was told VO should read the cards being played, 
> which it doesn't, as well as the count, and a few other things that would 
> make it easier and enable me to play faster. Online games are slow for me 
> because I am often unaware that it is my turn, or I have to manually check 
> which card my opponent has played. Luckily, I have some very patient sighted 
> friends. If anyone knows of a crib game that could be played through game 
> centre, for example, that would be awesome.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lynette
> 
> 
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RE: Going back one screen from the Bluetooth keyboard when there's no escape key?

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Krister,
 I have the Zagg Pocket keyboard also. I ended up changing modifier key  to 
caps lock and then the letter h to go home. There is no escape on that 
keyboard. I made suggestions to those guys about putting one in future versions 
of the keyboard also. 
 Jenn and Kumi

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Going back one screen from the bluetooth keyboard when there's no 
escape key?

Hi, see answers below:

> 15 okt. 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Flor Lynch :
> 
> VoiceOver keys +b?
> 
Nah, that reads the screen from the cursor position. I have actually found out 
by reading the manual for the keyboard model that this is perfectly normal 
behaviour. Since it is a cross platform model meant to work on all major 
smartphone platforms there’s only an escape key for windows Os when the 
keyboard works with Android or iOs it presses the home button. This is also why 
in an earlier thread i was asking if anyone knew how the Zagg Pocket keyboard 
worked, if there is an escape key there or if there’s just a key to press the 
home button.
/Krister

> -Original Message- From: Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Going back one screen from the bluetooth keyboard when there's no 
> escape key?
> 
> Hi,
> As i have mentioned before i have bought myself a foldable bluetooth keyboard 
> which is compatible with all major mobile phone platforms like Windows, iOs 
> and Android. Now i have a little query: I wrote before and said that the 
> keyboard hadn’t an escape key, well turns out it has, only it sends the 
> command to press the home button instead of going back one screen as it 
> should do with Voiceover, correct? So how would i then go back one screen 
> rapidly without having to search the whole screen around for a back button? 
> Can it at all be done with this kind of keyboard?
> /Krister
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Re: AccessNote problem

[Craig Werner]

Hello, Hanspeter.

I'm sorry that I cannot help you with your problem except to suggest
that you try re-installing the app.  I also have not received replies
to recent emils sent to AccessNote Support.  I wonder if the app is
still under development or if it has been abandoned.

Craig

On 10/14/15, Hanspeter Schaffner  wrote:
> Hello
>
> I tryed to contact the support e-mail in the documentation of AccessNote
> from AFB without success; so I someone here can help me.
>
> When trying to open a "new note" in AccessNote most of the times I get
> thrown out of the App and back in the homescreen of the iPhone.
>
> I already tryed with closing all apps an restarting the phone, deleting
> and reinstalling the app several times. Reinstalling helps for the first
> few times.
>
> I never get thrown out when opening an existing file. Sometimes it helps
> when I open first an existing file and then open a new file.
>
> Could it have to do with the keyboard that is selectet? I am using Swiss
> German keyboard.
>
> TIA
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. I was fortunate. We had a bowling alley at the Michigan school 
for the blind so I bowled and set pins a lot so I'll describe the arrangement 
of the pins for you. First, there is a gutter on each side of the alley. You 
need to avoid the gutter.
Pin 1 is in the center of the alley and it is closest to the bowler.
The second row of pins has two pins, the 2 pin is on the left and the 3 pin  is 
on the right.
The third row Contains pins 4 5 and 6 from left to right.
The last row contains pins 7, 8, 9 and 10 pins from left to right. If you want 
to pick up those seven pins move your finger to number four to the left of 
center and you should pick them up. Have any of you tried two finger aim and 
throw? Have any of you beaten the computer yet?

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:47 PM, jazzyjennifer  wrote:
> 
> thanks andy, i never really did an  audio podcast and posted it in public 
> before, i just wanted to do this, so people could get a lay out of the 
> screan, and they could here a demo of the game,
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RE: KNFB Reader

[Jennie Facer]

There are a couple of good podcasts on AppleVis.com. Just do a search for knfb 
reader and I know of two so far. 

 

Jenn and Kumi

 

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB Reader

 

Are there any good tutorials for beginners for KNFB Reader?

Thank you.

John J. Fioravanti, Jr. 

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RE: Email contacts ?

[Jennie Facer]

Have you tried typing in  the name and then  once it is in focus, there should 
be a more info button. Here is where I think you can delete the contact. 

Jenn and Kumi 
TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

-Original Message-
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Marissa Solaun
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Email contacts ?

So I had asked this question before but don't think I explained it clearly 
enough I want to delete certain contacts that I no longer use in the default 
email application on the iPhone. I have a Gmail account used to be that you 
could remove certain contacts  from recent's I don't see that option anymore

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[Jennie Facer]

I would live to comment here also. I have a problem where my iPad will not 
answer my phone calls. After three or four or five even calls to Apple, they 
totally dropped the ball and won't help me anymore. I am not a happy camper.
 Jenn and Kumi

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical 
Support Representative

Hello Everyone,  

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been able to 
either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, be it audio books, ring 
tones, music, etc.  

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for 
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the same problem.  As would 
be expected, there were suggestions as to how to resolve this problem.
I tried all of them and none worked, for me.  

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support number.  

As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the sum 
and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to know that the tech was 
very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated an entire afternoon to 
resolving this problem, I, too, was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using iTunes 
for Windows.  He said yes.  

2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S 
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with a 5 S with no
problem during our call.   

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there may be 
a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I had prepared a URL to give 
to the tech to prove that this problem has been reported to Apple since as 
early as the first release of iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of 
satisfaction when he returned to the line, after visiting the site containing 
the reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an 
isolated issue.

4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he inadvertently 
admitted that he was using a Mac to help me troubleshoot.  This came up because 
we were searching for some system files that clearly do not exist on a Windows 
PC.  When I called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows 
PC during our call.

The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to sync 
my iOS devices.

I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.  

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the 
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, thankfully, it was 
successful.  The following are the steps I took in order to resolve the
problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding the 
system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was initially downloaded in iTunes. 
 Doing this forced iTunes to download a fresh copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my PC.

2.
I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.

3.
I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.

Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no 
synchronization problems.

Mark

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RE: drafts?

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Reggie,

 

I use this app on both my devices. You wants drafts 4.

 

Jenn and Kumi

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Regina Alvarado
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: drafts?

 

Quick question. On the new iPad there is an app called drafts. Is this an Apple 
app and can it be secured for the iPhone? Running current version with 6s. 
Thanks.

 

reggie & Lex

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A Question About Games for iPhone

[M. Taylor]

There has been quite a discussion about accessible games for iOS, on-list.  

There used to be a game called Aurify that was, in my opinion, the best
audio game ever developed for iOS.  The game stopped working and stopped
being supported many years ago.

To those of you who may remember it, is there anything like it now?  

The most regretful thing about my experience with Aurify is that if I had
not updated my 3GS to iOS 4.0, I would still be enjoying it, today.  As it
turned out, I did update to iOS 4.0 and by the time I realized the
incompatibility problem, it was too late to return to iOS 3.1.3.  I still
have my 3GS and it continues to work just fine, even after all these years,
a testament to Steve Jobbs and Apple, no doubt.

Also, aside from chess, does anyone know of any VoiceOver accessible or
self-voicing board games for iOS such as monopoly?

Personally, I am not a fan of narrative games or games of violence so am
looking for a fun, happy, game that is easy to play.  

Thank you,

Mark

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Article: How to use your iPhone EarPods like a pro

[Gary Bowers]

How to use your iPhone EarPods like a pro:

http://is.gd/unNcB2

Gary 
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/GaryDBowers

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Re: iMazing, formerly DiskAid for Windows, was RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical Support Representative

[chris]

Well if they are using OS X then they will be using VoiceOver right? 
Just going by the message one below this one.


On 17/10/2015 01:57, Dani Pagador wrote:

Yes, but what are you using to access it? A little more info, please???

Thanks,
Dani

On 10/16/15, Daniel Miller  wrote:

iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended.


On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner 
wrote:

I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and
find it mostly useless.
I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was
also not very accessible.
So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use this
app?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
Technical Support Representative

I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to
comment how accessible it is, please.

BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
Technical Support Representative


Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing.  He said
that there is both a Mac and a Windows version.

A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility
Technical Support Representative

Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that
helpful.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility Technical
Support Representative

Hello Everyone,

As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been
able to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S,
be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc.

After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes for
Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the
same problem.  As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how to
resolve this problem.
I tried all of them and none worked, for me.

Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support
number.

As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide the
sum and substance of my call.  By the way, I want you to
know that the tech was very gracious and professional.  As I had dedicated
an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too,
was very patient and polite.

1.
I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using
iTunes for Windows.  He said yes.

2.
He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 S
running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with
a 5 S with no
problem during our call.

3.
Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there
may be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I
had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has been
reported to Apple since as early as the first release of
iOS 9.0.  I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he
returned to the line, after visiting the site containing the
reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was an
isolated issue.

4.
After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he
inadvertently admitted that he was using a Mac to help me
troubleshoot.  This came up because we were searching for some system
files that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC.  When I
called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC
during our call.

The Surprise:
5.
He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, to
sync my iOS devices.

I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least.

He was unable to resolve my problem.

However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on the
matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and,
thankfully, it was successful.  The following are the steps I took in
order to resolve the
problem:

1.
Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after unhiding
the system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was
initially downloaded in iTunes.  Doing this forced iTunes to download a
fresh copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my PC.

2.
I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone.

3.
I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S.

Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no

RE: KNFB Reader

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

 

There are a couple of good podcasts on AppleVis.com. Just do a search for knfb 
reader and I know of two so far. 

 

Jenn and Kumi

 

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB Reader

 

Are there any good tutorials for beginners for KNFB Reader?

Thank you.

John J. Fioravanti, Jr. 

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RE: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not correct, you can tap on whatever you want, for us here in North America the 
setup will proceed in English regardless.

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Rajmund
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

Hello,
If you double tap something but English, you have to set it up in that 
language. Although, when I got to the password bit, and because I didn't have a 
password, when I turned it off and on, it started from the language again, but 
I'd rather not try a different language, unless you know the language.

- Original Message -
From: Don Breda  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 16, 2015 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

>
>
> Ok and if it is not spoken in english  then how do you know what to 
> doubletap.
> 
> If you doubl tap on someing in another language then won't the setup 
> proceed in that language?
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> On 16-Oct-15 2:32 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
> > Double tap slide to set up which may be displayed and spoken in a different 
> > language every few seconds.
> >> On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:29, Don Breda  wrote:
> >>
> >> A friend called me and asked me to help her updae her phone to IOS9.
> >>
> >> She was concerned about the hello screen with all the differnet languages 
> >> that comes up once the os OS is installed and the phone reboots.
> >>
> >> In the past this screen has proven problematic with voiceover.
> >>
> >> I dont' remember what i did to get past it.
> >>
> >> Any tips on how to handle that?
> >>
> >> Maybe its not a problem with IOS9 just can't remember.
> >>
> >> If I can give her a way to do it reliably I would prefer that as opposed 
> >> to going over there to do it for her.
> >>
> >> Better to teach a person to fish...
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
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RE: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Don,

No, even if you double tap when another language is displayed, the setup will 
continue in English. I assume the phone already knows that it is in North 
America.
There really isn't that much to tab on and even in many other languages other 
than the Asian ones or maybe Russian etc. you sort of get the idea of what it 
means.

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Don Breda
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating IOS and the hello screen:

Ok and if it is not spoken in english  then how do you know what to doubletap.

If you doubl tap on someing in another language then won't the setup proceed in 
that language?

Don



On 16-Oct-15 2:32 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
> Double tap slide to set up which may be displayed and spoken in a different 
> language every few seconds.
>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 19:29, Don Breda  wrote:
>>
>> A friend called me and asked me to help her updae her phone to IOS9.
>>
>> She was concerned about the hello screen with all the differnet languages 
>> that comes up once the os OS is installed and the phone reboots.
>>
>> In the past this screen has proven problematic with voiceover.
>>
>> I dont' remember what i did to get past it.
>>
>> Any tips on how to handle that?
>>
>> Maybe its not a problem with IOS9 just can't remember.
>>
>> If I can give her a way to do it reliably I would prefer that as opposed to 
>> going over there to do it for her.
>>
>> Better to teach a person to fish...
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
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Re: Going back one screen from the Bluetooth keyboard when there's no escape key?

[TaraPrakash]

You can try the escape key key with the function key if it has any. 

On one of my keyboards it works for going back
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Krister,
> I have the Zagg Pocket keyboard also. I ended up changing modifier key  to 
> caps lock and then the letter h to go home. There is no escape on that 
> keyboard. I made suggestions to those guys about putting one in future 
> versions of the keyboard also. 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
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> Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Going back one screen from the bluetooth keyboard when there's 
> no escape key?
> 
> Hi, see answers below:
> 
>> 15 okt. 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Flor Lynch :
>> 
>> VoiceOver keys +b?
> Nah, that reads the screen from the cursor position. I have actually found 
> out by reading the manual for the keyboard model that this is perfectly 
> normal behaviour. Since it is a cross platform model meant to work on all 
> major smartphone platforms there’s only an escape key for windows Os when the 
> keyboard works with Android or iOs it presses the home button. This is also 
> why in an earlier thread i was asking if anyone knew how the Zagg Pocket 
> keyboard worked, if there is an escape key there or if there’s just a key to 
> press the home button.
> /Krister
> 
>> -Original Message- From: Krister Ekstrom
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Going back one screen from the bluetooth keyboard when there's no 
>> escape key?
>> 
>> Hi,
>> As i have mentioned before i have bought myself a foldable bluetooth 
>> keyboard which is compatible with all major mobile phone platforms like 
>> Windows, iOs and Android. Now i have a little query: I wrote before and said 
>> that the keyboard hadn’t an escape key, well turns out it has, only it sends 
>> the command to press the home button instead of going back one screen as it 
>> should do with Voiceover, correct? So how would i then go back one screen 
>> rapidly without having to search the whole screen around for a back button? 
>> Can it at all be done with this kind of keyboard?
>> /Krister
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Re: All these wonderful perplexing devices

[Christopher H. Moss]

It took me all this time, but I managed with your help.  Thank you very much.

Kit 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 4:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: All these wonderful perplexing devices
Hi,

 

If you don’t want to use VoiceOver and have everything speak to you but would 
rather use your vision, you want to turn on Zoom in Settings, General 
Accessibility, Zoom.  Zoom magnifies everything on the screen.

I’m going to paste in some basic instructions on how to use Zoom.  Feel free to 
ask questions.  

 

How to use ZOOM

To zoom in, or to zoom out - Simply double-tap with three fingers anywhere on 
the screen: as long as you have enabled the Zoom in your settings, this command 
will turn the zoom on or off, making text larger, as well as any other items 
visible on the display.

To move the screen while zooming is enabled - You need to use three fingers of 
your choice and pan around the glass display to move the current screen focus 
around and see other parts of the image you normally see in whole (1:1 scale, 
no zoom).

To increase or decrease the iPad default zoom level - Here too, use three 
fingers to double-tap in a special way. Tap once with three fingers, and tap 
another time quickly (still with three fingers), but don’t lift the second 
tap-just keep your fingers on the screen. Then, while still keeping your 
fingers in constant contact with the glass display, move up to increase the 
zoom (and zoom in further still), or move down to zoom out. Then, release your 
fingers and your iPad will keep the custom zoom level you chose (which is 
previewed in real time).

 

Perhaps to avoid puzzling surprises, Apple disabled this option by default; 
once you have become accustomed to it, you'll be able to magnify the screen at 
will, and probably never by accident since three-finger zoom commands are too 
unnatural to occur accidentally.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Moss
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 3:51 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: All these wonderful perplexing devices

 

I am a legally blind historical novelist who loves all the new but frustrating 
tools coming out of places like Apple and Amazon.

I am finding the Echyo partivbbularly frustrating  since there is so little on 
it in twrms of books, and other tools called  Echo that have nothing to do with 
it... form instance, I bought the Echo Pen and am returning it because it turns 
out to have nothing to do with working the Amazon Alexa Echo...  grrr...

I also am starting to use my iPad, which my beloved gave me last Christmas, 
because it is supposed to work with Exho.  I needed to start using it anyway, 
even though I don't go to  lectures or even much out of the house at my age and 
infirmity.  One thing I am find ing extremenly perplexing is how the iPad 
supposedly is accessible but at the same time does not seem to be at all.  I 
went into settings to increase the size of the font but it didn't, exceptt   
the Settings.  I could use some typs on using iPad accessibility.

On the other  hand my beloved Kindle Keyboard is as gentle as a lamb, and just 
as tasty.

I told you I was a novelist.  My books are on Amazon under the names Nan 
Hawthorne and Christopher Hawthorne Moss and are both self published and also 
published formally.  If you are interested in any, let me know.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

As I said, I am typopathological, so forgive any I did not catch.

Kir Moss

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Updating IOS and the hello screen:

[Don Breda]

A friend called me and asked me to help her updae her phone to IOS9.

She was concerned about the hello screen with all the differnet 
languages that comes up once the os OS is installed and the phone reboots.


In the past this screen has proven problematic with voiceover.

I dont' remember what i did to get past it.

Any tips on how to handle that?

Maybe its not a problem with IOS9 just can't remember.

If I can give her a way to do it reliably I would prefer that as opposed 
to going over there to do it for her.


Better to teach a person to fish...

Thanks in advance.

Don


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to don breda

[Paul Richard McGann]

don, 

forgive me this time. 

I did send you email along with ron miller. I haven’t heard from you since. I 
guess my email got lost or end up in your junk folder. I haven’t heard words 
form you sinc.e  I know it is out of point on this listserv, but I doublecheck 
to make sure you get my post.  I hate this as it should be private, but letting 
yo know of email issue.s sorry. I apologize.  thank you1! 

rich 

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