the numbers to dial a phone number on apple keyboard

[Arlene]

Malcolm, thank you for sending this list of voice over comands. One of the 
ones I didn't know about was that on the apple keyboard that you could dial 
a phone number. We haven't been able to get that to work. If you could tell 
me more about that. Would it be the numbers located on the top row of the 
keyboard or would it be a keyboard with the number pad? I'm just asking this 
to make sure I know what is meant by the numbers. Thank you so much.


ARlene
- Original Message - 
From: "Malcolm Parfitt" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: what's the vo key?


The following list of key combinations may help you.

You can use VoiceOver Help to learn the keyboard layout and the actions 
associated with various key combinations. VoiceOver Help speaks keys and 
keyboard

commands as you type them, without performing the associated action.

VoiceOver keyboard commands

VO = Control-Option
list of 25 items
• Turn on VoiceOver Help: VO–K

• Turn off VoiceOver Help: Escape

• Select the next or previous item: VO–Right Arrow or VO–Left Arrow

• Double-tap to activate the selected item: VO–Space bar

• Press the Home button: VO–H

• Touch and hold the selected item: VO–Shift–M

• Move to the status bar: VO–M

• Read from the current position: VO–A

• Read from the top: VO–B

• Pause or resume reading: Control

• Copy the last spoken text to the clipboard: VO–Shift–C

• Search for text: VO–F

• Mute or unmute VoiceOver: VO–S

• Open Notification Center: Fn–VO–Up Arrow

• Open Control Center: Fn–VO–Down Arrow

• Open the Item Chooser: VO–I

• Change the label of the selected item: VO–/

• Double-tap with two fingers: VO–”-”

• Adjust the rotor: Use Quick Nav (see below)

• Swipe up or down: VO–Up Arrow or VO–Down Arrow

• Adjust the speech rotor: VO–Command–Left Arrow or VO–Command–Right Arrow

• Adjust the setting specified by the speech rotor: VO–Command–Up Arrow or 
VO–Command–Down Arrow


• Turn the screen curtain on or off: VO–Shift–S

• Return to the previous screen: Escape

• Switch apps: Command–Tab or Command–Shift–Tab
list end
Quick Nav

Turn on Quick Nav to control VoiceOver using the arrow keys.
list of 7 items
• Turn Quick Nav on or off: Left Arrow–Right Arrow

• Select the next or previous item: Right Arrow or Left Arrow

• Select the next or previous item specified by the rotor: Up Arrow or Down 
Arrow


• Select the first or last item: Control–Up Arrow or Control–Down Arrow

• Tap an item: Up Arrow–Down Arrow

• Scroll up, down, left, or right: Option–Up Arrow, Option–Down Arrow, 
Option–Left Arrow, or Option–Right Arrow


• Adjust the rotor: Up Arrow–Left Arrow or Up Arrow–Right Arrow
list end
You can also use the number keys on an Apple Wireless Keyboard to dial a 
phone number in Phone or enter numbers in Calculator.


Single-key Quick Nav for web browsing

When you view a webpage with Quick Nav on, you can use the following keys on 
the keyboard to navigate the page quickly. Typing the key moves to the next
item of the indicated type. To move to the previous item, hold the Shift key 
as you type the letter.

list of 18 items
• Turn on Single-key Quick Nav: VO-Q

• Heading: H

• Link: L

• Text field: R

• Button: B

• Form control: C

• Image: I

• Table: T

• Static text: S

• ARIA landmark: W

• List: X

• Item of the same type: M

• Level 1 heading: 1

• Level 2 heading: 2

• Level 3 heading: 3

• Level 4 heading: 4

• Level 5 heading: 5

• Level 6 heading: 6
list end
Text editing

Use these commands (with Quick Nav turned off) to work with text. VoiceOver 
reads the text as you move the insertion point.

list of 11 items
• Go forward or back one character: Right Arrow or Left Arrow

• Go forward or back one word: Option–Right Arrow or Option–Left Arrow

• Go up or down one line: Up Arrow or Down Arrow

• Go to the beginning or end of the line: Command–Left Arrow or Command–Down 
Arrow


• Go to the beginning or end of the paragraph: Option–Up Arrow or 
Option–Down Arrow


• Go to the previous or next paragraph: Option–Up Arrow or Option–Down Arrow

• Go to the top or bottom of the text field: Command–Up Arrow or 
Command–Down Arrow


• Select text as you move: Shift + any of the insertion point movement 
commands above


• Select all text: Command–A

• Copy, cut, or paste the selected text: Command–C, Command–X, or Command–V

• Undo or redo last change: Command–Z or Shift–Command–Z

Sent from my iPhone


On 9 Apr 2018, at 16:34, Arlene  wrote:

What is the vo key? Thanks.
- Original Message - From: "'RobH.' via VIPhone" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: need to know where the options key is on the bluetooth 
keyboard



Ah, VO is a defined key combination for these things, and so goes in the 
manual as vo-right arrow, vo-left arrow and in this case,
vo-space. The vo combination can be changed, but current 

RE: PTA icloud Mail

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It’s a download from Apple. Just Google “Download iCloud for Windows”. 
Unfortunately this used to be very accessible but is so no longer.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 8:44 PM
To: peel-the-ap...@groups.io; peel-the-ap...@groups.io
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
idevi...@gatewayfortheblind.com
Subject: Re: PTA icloud Mail

Hi, where would I get that? I added the account through mail for Windows with 
it’s own app specific password. As of right now I’m stuck with a Windows 
computer. One thing I can try is deleting and logging back in.

Get Outlook for iOS

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> on behalf of 
Vollbrecht Family >
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macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
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Subject: Re: PTA icloud Mail

Where did you add the iCloud mail account? Did you do it directly and windows 
mail or through iCloud for windows? I would highly suggest using iCloud for 
windows, if that’s even still available. I don’t use windows so I really don’t 
know, but that would seem the best thing to try.

On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Maria Reyes 
> wrote:
Hi all,
I posted this earlier, but I didn’t see any replies or I just missed them, but 
I’m trying to use iCloud Mail on my windows 10 laptop using the built in mail 
app. I have the account with an app specific password, however, when I try to 
send messages, they won’t send. I get an error email. I do have the address 
correct. Is there something I need to enable in my settings?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Re: PTA icloud Mail

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, where would I get that? I added the account through mail for Windows with 
it’s own app specific password. As of right now I’m stuck with a Windows 
computer. One thing I can try is deleting and logging back in.

Get Outlook for iOS

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Vollbrecht Family 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 11:05:06 PM
To: peel-the-ap...@groups.io
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
idevi...@gatewayfortheblind.com
Subject: Re: PTA icloud Mail

Where did you add the iCloud mail account? Did you do it directly and windows 
mail or through iCloud for windows? I would highly suggest using iCloud for 
windows, if that’s even still available. I don’t use windows so I really don’t 
know, but that would seem the best thing to try.


On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Maria Reyes 
> wrote:

Hi all,
I posted this earlier, but I didn’t see any replies or I just missed them, but 
I’m trying to use iCloud Mail on my windows 10 laptop using the built in mail 
app. I have the account with an app specific password, however, when I try to 
send messages, they won’t send. I get an error email. I do have the address 
correct. Is there something I need to enable in my settings?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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RE: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just turn the Mute button on, of course the phone will only vibrate, but 
Voiceover will not announce callers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

Hello Folks,
The subject heading says it all.  I need to know how to stop voice over from 
announcing the names of callers.  I do not like it that when I am sitting with 
a group of people and I receive a call, everyone in the group knows who is 
calling me.
Is there a way of doing that?  I do not need to block my caller id, because 
when I call people, some of them do not like to receive calls from unknown 
numbers.

If anyone knows a trick of how to prevent Voice Over from saying the names of 
callers, I would truly appreciate it.

Regards,

Cris

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RE: Apple watch aps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have used it fpor longer outdoor walks, also some runs and pool swims and I 
just use the Workout app and select the appropriate activity which I am doing.

From: 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple watch aps

Hi Apple watch users

wondered if any of you apple watch users are using it for running and if so 
which aps do you use please.

Thanks
Linda
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icloud Mail

[Maria Reyes]

Hi all, 
I posted this earlier, but I didn’t see any replies or I just missed them, but 
I’m trying to use iCloud Mail on my windows 10 laptop using the built in mail 
app. I have the account with an app specific password, however, when I try to 
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correct. Is there something I need to enable in my settings? 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Re: Seven Simple Steps Toward Online Privacy – Robert Epstein – Medium

[Steve Matzura]

This is Internet 101 for us oldies. Good practices  all around.


On 4/16/2018 10:56 AM, Traci Duncan wrote:

Seven Simple Steps Toward Online Privacy – Robert Epstein – Medium
Interesting article. What are your thoughts?

BTW, is Firefox accessible on the Mac?

Hope you enjoy,
Traci

https://medium.com/@re_53711/seven-simple-steps-toward-online-privacy-20dcbb9fa82


  Seven Simple Steps Toward Online Privacy

Robert Epstein 
Mar 16, 2017


I haven’t received a targeted ad on my computer or mobile phone for 
more than two years now. If you care about your privacy — or even if 
you’re just sick of being bombarded by ads for diet pills seconds 
after you send an email to a friend complaining that your pants are 
too tight — here are seven simple steps you can take to make your 
online presence more private:


1) /Junk Gmail/. All Gmail emails, both incoming and outgoing — even 
the angry draft emails you decided not to send — are analyzed and 
stored permanently by Google, Inc., with every snippet of information 
the company can extract from your emails added to the massive profile 
it has compiled about you. I recommend using http://ProtonMail.com 
 instead of Gmail. It’s based in Switzerland 
and subject to strict Swiss privacy laws. It takes only a few seconds 
to sign up, because the company doesn’t ask /anything/ about you 
(imagine that!). The basic service is free, and the paid version is 
cheap. ProtonMail is incredibly easy to use, and it also uses 
end-to-end encryption for maximum privacy. Unfortunately, you might be 
using Gmail and not even know it. To save money, thousands of 
businesses and universities use Gmail under their own brands — even 
news services such as /The Guardian, U.S. News & World Report/, 
/Salon/, and /The Hill/. To find out whether you have been unknowingly 
corresponding with someone through Google servers, open that person’s 
email and then find and click on the “view full header” option in your 
email software. If you find “google.com ” anywhere 
in the expanded header, Google has been monitoring all of your 
communications with that sender. Even if you switch to ProtonMail, you 
will still have no privacy when corresponding with someone using Gmail 
or hidden Google servers. I tell such people that if they want to 
communicate with me, they will need to use a different email service, 
and they usually do.


2) /Switch Search Engines/. Google’s search engine is the best because 
it indexes far more web pages than anyone else — at least 45 billion. 
But Google (the search engine) is also the most aggressive spying tool 
ever invented — funded from the outset by the NSA and the CIA 
 
to identify people who are a threat to national security. Google 
records every search you conduct, and your Google profile contains a 
complete history of every search you /ever/ conducted — even those 
sketchy ones! Worse still, my research 
 has 
shown in recent years that Google’s search engine is also the most 
powerful mind control device 
 
ever devised; it shifts the opinions of millions of people around the 
world every day without them knowing it. Instead of using Google.com 
, use http://StartPage.com. If you use the Firebox 
browser, you can even make StartPage your default search engine. Why 
StartPage? Because it doesn’t track you, and because it gives you full 
access to Google’s amazing index. In other words, it gives you great 
search results while also preserving your privacy. StartPage also 
doesn’t give you any search suggestions, which Google uses 
systematically to direct your searches 
 
as they please.


3) /Kill Chrome. /Google developed the Chrome browser because the 
massive amount of information they were collecting about you from 
their search engine wasn’t enough for them. With Chrome, they can see 
which web pages you visit — /and/ what you do on those pages — even if 
you go to those pages directly rather than going through their search 
engine. If you value your privacy, /never/ use Chrome, even in the 
bogus “incognito” mode. Instead, use http://Firefox.com, which is 
maintained by a nonprofit organization. As I reveal in “The New 
Censorship 
,” 
Google can still//get information about you when you’re using Firefox 
or Safari, but nowhere near as much as they get when you’re using Chrome.


4) /Axe Android/. As I explain in “Google’s Gotcha 

Re: Looking for speedometer app

[lenron brown]

I use speed box it works perfect.

On 3/15/18, Donna Neff  wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone hi everyone, I am looking for help, hoping there might
> be an app that’s available, and I will be most appreciative of any help.
>
> Regrettably, an Apple Watch is not financially feasible for me right now but
> I still want to find someway to determine what my speed and heart rate are,
> while I am walking or jogging.
>
> Is there a speedometer app perhaps? Anyone know of a device that could do
> this that isn’t too expensive?
>
> Any thoughts, or ideas, are welcome and thank you in advance.
>
> Donna
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Re: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

[Lielle Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Sorry, but this feature is not related to VoiceOver users. And by the way, i 
don't recommended to acctive this because that we are getting double 
announcement ones  from VoiceOver, and ones from  the feature  that called  
announce calls. I recommend to turn it of   and not to use this for blind 
people, it could be very mistake. 

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-16 באפר׳ 2018, בשעה 21:58, ‏‏Bill Gallik ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> There are actually a couple of ways you can set up your iPhone so incoming 
> calls will not be announced.
> 
> 1) Manually turn on “Do Not Disturb” keeping in mind that if you have 
> permissions set for some callers to bypass this their calls will still be 
> announced.
> 
> 2) Go to  and select the option best suited 
> for your circumstances.
> 
> Also, if you disable “Announce Calls” you may also want to go to 
>  and set that so you will at least know if 
> you’ve received a call during these meetings (or any other time you you have 
> “Announce Calls” disabled).
> 
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - “When you are arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same.”
> - Contributor Unknown
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Re: Brailliant BI 14

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

I believe I have 5 devices connected. It knows which device is calling for it’s 
attecnsion . This is amazing to me.

Ed

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 11:47 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> How many devices can be connected to the Brailliant BI 14?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Brailliant BI 14
> 
> Is brailliant BI 14 a six dots, or eight dots braille cells?
> Regards,
> Cris
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy
>   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:15 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Brailliant BI 14
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> I am a HumanWare Rep, in Montana. I have not heard of any such battery 
> issues. As far as I can tell you  there is not any battery issues with the 
> units. The devices are selling faster than HumanWare thought they would. I do 
> think there is a little wait for the units, but it’s not bad.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, thanks Eleanor. I wouldn’t expect it to be able to connect to say USB 
>> stick or even an SD card. As you said in a previous message, you’re not 
>> going to read an essay on it. And I’m not going to write the great American 
>> novel. I’m waiting for our local dealer well sort of local, to have stopped. 
>> I guess this battery thing must’ve slowed them down.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:46 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary 
>>> 
>>> Yes, it does have on board internal storage capacity. There is a switch 
>>> with 2 settings. If you have it to the left then the BI 14 runs its own 
>>> internal notes application, allowing you to make as many notes whenever and 
>>> wherever you like. You can then also ask the Brailliant to sync these notes 
>>> to your I-device and vice versa. If you flick the switch to the right then 
>>> it just becomes a Braille display/keyboard for your I-device. You can’t 
>>> attach anything like a memory stick to the Brailliant in order to provide 
>>> external storage, but that’s not the point of the machine - the point of it 
>>> is to be able to make notes really easily on the go without having to carry 
>>> a lot of large equipment around with you. 
>>> 
>>> Eleanor 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 13 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 From an earlier response on this thread, I got the idea that it must have 
 some onboard storage capacity, or else you wouldn’t be able to delete 
 notes that you had saved on it. Can someone clarify about the storage 
 capacity if it has any, and how much?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> Apparently you can compose a note on the device and send it to a smart 
> phone using a proprietary app.  it apparently does not have onboard 
> storage capacity.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:26 AM
> Subject: Brailliant BI 14
> 
> 
> I wonder if anyone has or has seen one of these in action. It’s just 
> finally been released, having been announced last year. It’s claim to 
> fame is that it instantly will sync with your eye devices via an app 
> that’s available in the App Store. What interests me is to know if the 
> notetaking capability in the device is independent. That is. Can you 
> access the things you input using the device, manipulating the notes, 
> deleting them etc. If it’s not, I don’t find this terribly interesting. 
> But for just slightly less than $1000, I suppose it could be interesting 
> if it really could act as an independent notetaking device. I’m also not 
> thrilled with only 14 Braille cells. It’s hard to take that seriously.
> Mary
> 
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Re: Reading Pharmacy Label?

[Marie Lyons]

I too am not satisfied with talking pill reminders. It doesn’t give all the 
information that Script talk would. Walgreens gave me the device and left the 
recording up to me.


Marie Lyons 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 14, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Just for clarification, the talking pill reminder from Walgreen is not 
> actually a cap,
> rather a small device that is attached to the cap.
> So far, my experience with Walgreen and these talking pill reminders has been 
> less than stellar!
>  
> HTH,
> Rick
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> Subject: RE: Reading Pharmacy Label?
> 
> I’d suggest checking out two options.
> Walgreens pharmacies provide a talking pill reminder cap on their 
> prescriptions as well as an app that can identify the prescription number and 
> be used to do refills, but it doesn’t seem to speak the specific 
> prescription.  Hence, the talking pill reminder cap.
>  
> Or, several chains now use the ScriptTalk from Envision America.  You can 
> check it out at www.scriptability.com
>  
> They are also doing an app, but the pharmacy has to participate in their 
> program for that to work.
>  
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
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> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
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> Subject: Reading Pharmacy Label?
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> Hi, list.
> A month ago an app/hardware  was discussed here threadbare that reads 
> pharmacy label,, can someone refresh my memory and mention its name, please?
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RE: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

[Maria Reyes]

I thought there was a toggle for that in accessibility settings?

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From: Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

Thanks Lielle,
I am disappointed.  I was hoping to find a way of silencing VO from saying the 
names of callers.

Regards,

Cris

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lielle Ben Simon? ?? ???
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

Hi Criss and all, Criss, there is no way to stop the announcing the name of 
person that call you. This is a feature that not possable to disable. this.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-16 באפר׳ 2018, בשעה 20:21, ‏‏Cris Ali ‏ כתב/ה:
Hello Folks,
The subject heading says it all.  I need to know how to stop voice over from 
announcing the names of callers.  I do not like it that when I am sitting with 
a group of people and I receive a call, everyone in the group knows who is 
calling me.  
Is there a way of doing that?  I do not need to block my caller id, because 
when I call people, some of them do not like to receive calls from unknown 
numbers.
 
If anyone knows a trick of how to prevent Voice Over from saying the names of 
callers, I would truly appreciate it.
 
Regards,
 
Cris
 
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RE: Turning Off Flash Flood Emergency Alerts

[Maria Reyes]

Go to settings > notifications. Scroll down to bottom and find government 
alerts and toggle that to off.

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From: Brian Fischler
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:56 PM
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Subject: Turning Off Flash Flood Emergency Alerts

Hey all,

This morning I was rudely awaken very early by my iPhone to a stupid flash 
flood emergency warning that came through on my phone even though Do Not 
Disturb was enabled. The sound was the same loud sound for an Amber alert. I 
live in an area where I should not be getting these flash flood warnings. Does 
anyone know if there is a way to disable these alerts as I do not want them and 
it should not override my do not disturb. I went in to Emergency/SOS settings 
but could not find anything about turning these alerts off. Thanks,

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Re: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

[Bill Gallik]

There are actually a couple of ways you can set up your iPhone so incoming 
calls will not be announced.

1) Manually turn on “Do Not Disturb” keeping in mind that if you have 
permissions set for some callers to bypass this their calls will still be 
announced.

2) Go to  and select the option best suited 
for your circumstances.

Also, if you disable “Announce Calls” you may also want to go to 
 and set that so you will at least know if you’ve 
received a call during these meetings (or any other time you you have “Announce 
Calls” disabled).



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Re: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

[Lielle Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Yes, i am understand you, it's very disappointing.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-16 באפר׳ 2018, בשעה 21:18, ‏‏Cris Ali ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Thanks Lielle,
> I am disappointed.  I was hoping to find a way of silencing VO from saying 
> the names of callers.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
> Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lielle Ben Simon? ?? ???
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 2:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?
>  
> Hi Criss and all, Criss, there is no way to stop the announcing the name of 
> person that call you. This is a feature that not possable to disable. this.
>  
> Sent from  my iphone
> 
> ‫ב-16 באפר׳ 2018, בשעה 20:21, ‏‏Cris Ali ‏ כתב/ה:
> 
> Hello Folks,
> The subject heading says it all.  I need to know how to stop voice over from 
> announcing the names of callers.  I do not like it that when I am sitting 
> with a group of people and I receive a call, everyone in the group knows who 
> is calling me. 
> Is there a way of doing that?  I do not need to block my caller id, because 
> when I call people, some of them do not like to receive calls from unknown 
> numbers.
>  
> If anyone knows a trick of how to prevent Voice Over from saying the names of 
> callers, I would truly appreciate it.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
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RE: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Lielle,
I am disappointed.  I was hoping to find a way of silencing VO from saying the 
names of callers.

Regards,

Cris

Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/@JerusalemBoy

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lielle Ben Simon? ?? ???
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

Hi Criss and all, Criss, there is no way to stop the announcing the name of 
person that call you. This is a feature that not possable to disable. this.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-16 באפר׳ 2018, בשעה 20:21, ‏‏Cris Ali 
‏> כתב/ה:
Hello Folks,
The subject heading says it all.  I need to know how to stop voice over from 
announcing the names of callers.  I do not like it that when I am sitting with 
a group of people and I receive a call, everyone in the group knows who is 
calling me.
Is there a way of doing that?  I do not need to block my caller id, because 
when I call people, some of them do not like to receive calls from unknown 
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If anyone knows a trick of how to prevent Voice Over from saying the names of 
callers, I would truly appreciate it.

Regards,

Cris

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Re: how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

[Lielle Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Hi Criss and all, Criss, there is no way to stop the announcing the name of 
person that call you. This is a feature that not possable to disable. this.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-16 באפר׳ 2018, בשעה 20:21, ‏‏Cris Ali ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Hello Folks,
> The subject heading says it all.  I need to know how to stop voice over from 
> announcing the names of callers.  I do not like it that when I am sitting 
> with a group of people and I receive a call, everyone in the group knows who 
> is calling me. 
> Is there a way of doing that?  I do not need to block my caller id, because 
> when I call people, some of them do not like to receive calls from unknown 
> numbers.
>  
> If anyone knows a trick of how to prevent Voice Over from saying the names of 
> callers, I would truly appreciate it.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
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Re: Square Cash Help

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks for the confirmation. I found the splitter link on AppleVis. Appreciate 
the feedback.

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 6:46 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
> 
> That is because you need an adapter. I will have to see if I can find the 
> link from Amazon, unless someone gets to it sooner. 
> 
> Sharonda
> Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I wanted to see if anyone is using the Square Cash app successfully with 
>> VoiceOVer. I had been told you could get VoiceOVer to work through bluetooth 
>> headphones when the Square reader was in your headphone jack but I tried 
>> this and it did not work. Can anyone get it to work, or is there a different 
>> credit card scanner that now works with bluetooth and does not need to be 
>> plugged in to teh headphone jack? Also has anyone bought the $15 splitter 
>> from Amazon and if so does it allow you to use VO when scanning a credit 
>> card? Thank you.
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Turning Off Flash Flood Emergency Alerts

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

This morning I was rudely awaken very early by my iPhone to a stupid flash 
flood emergency warning that came through on my phone even though Do Not 
Disturb was enabled. The sound was the same loud sound for an Amber alert. I 
live in an area where I should not be getting these flash flood warnings. Does 
anyone know if there is a way to disable these alerts as I do not want them and 
it should not override my do not disturb. I went in to Emergency/SOS settings 
but could not find anything about turning these alerts off. Thanks,

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Re: bluetooth headphones

[Andy Baracco]

Apple Air Pods.
Andy

  - Original Message - 
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  To: IPhone 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 8:59 AM
  Subject: bluetooth headphones


  I am looking for a set of Bluetooth headphones, something more like earbuds, 
that have no band going over the top of the head. Any recommendations?

  Thanks.

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how to stop VO from announcing names of callers?

[Cris Ali]

Hello Folks,
The subject heading says it all.  I need to know how to stop voice over from 
announcing the names of callers.  I do not like it that when I am sitting with 
a group of people and I receive a call, everyone in the group knows who is 
calling me.
Is there a way of doing that?  I do not need to block my caller id, because 
when I call people, some of them do not like to receive calls from unknown 
numbers.

If anyone knows a trick of how to prevent Voice Over from saying the names of 
callers, I would truly appreciate it.

Regards,

Cris

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Re: bluetooth headphones

[Anthony Vece]

Vicki I can’t say enough about the Apple AirPods there a little on the 
expensive side however to my ears they sound the best and they work well God 
bless Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

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Re: apple watch buy or wait?

[Kelly Pierce]

If I were a swimmer, I would do it without a doubt. Summer is coming
and the watch could count your strokes if you were to swim in open
water. I am a powerlifter and do not need a watch to tell me my blood
pressure rises when I lift heavy things or that my heart rate
increases when I do jumping lunges. Besides, I like the vintage look
of a mid-20th century blind dude with a Braille wristwatch with the
black and white dial.

Kelly




On 4/16/18, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
> Hi. I went from a series 1 to a series 3 and the difference was huge. I was
> about to give up on the Apple watch because the series 1 had gotten s
> slow and bogged down but I decided to try the series 3 and I’m so very glad
> I did. Seriously, it’s a major upgrade from the 1 to the 3.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sarai
> Bucciarelli
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?
>
>
>
> My series 1 is just so slow.
>
>
>
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> 
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?
>
>
>
> I think you can buy it now, of course nobody knows what will happen, but I
> doubt the watch will get a big upgrade if any in the fall and the series 3
> is apparently very good. I bought a series 2 in October of 2016 and while
> it’s not bad, I find now after a year and a half it’s a bit slow. I did a
> reset and set it up as a new device and that helped a bit, but I must say
> I’m definitely not 100% satisfied with how snappy it is and from what I
> understand the series 3 is much more responsive which of course can be
> expected to a point.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of
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> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com 
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> Subject: apple watch buy or wait?
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>
>
> Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1.
> Should I buy now, or wait till September?
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Seven Simple Steps Toward Online Privacy – Robert Epstein – Medium

[Traci Duncan]

Interesting article. What are your thoughts?

BTW, is Firefox accessible on the Mac?

Hope you enjoy,
Traci

https://medium.com/@re_53711/seven-simple-steps-toward-online-privacy-20dcbb9fa82

Seven Simple Steps Toward Online Privacy
Robert EpsteinMar 16, 2017
I haven’t received a targeted ad on my computer or mobile phone for more than 
two years now. If you care about your privacy — or even if you’re just sick of 
being bombarded by ads for diet pills seconds after you send an email to a 
friend complaining that your pants are too tight — here are seven simple steps 
you can take to make your online presence more private:

1) Junk Gmail. All Gmail emails, both incoming and outgoing — even the angry 
draft emails you decided not to send — are analyzed and stored permanently by 
Google, Inc., with every snippet of information the company can extract from 
your emails added to the massive profile it has compiled about you. I recommend 
using http://ProtonMail.com instead of Gmail. It’s based in Switzerland and 
subject to strict Swiss privacy laws. It takes only a few seconds to sign up, 
because the company doesn’t ask anything about you (imagine that!). The basic 
service is free, and the paid version is cheap. ProtonMail is incredibly easy 
to use, and it also uses end-to-end encryption for maximum privacy. 
Unfortunately, you might be using Gmail and not even know it. To save money, 
thousands of businesses and universities use Gmail under their own brands — 
even news services such as The Guardian, U.S. News & World Report, Salon, and 
The Hill. To find out whether you have been unknowingly corresponding with 
someone through Google servers, open that person’s email and then find and 
click on the “view full header” option in your email software. If you find 
“google.com” anywhere in the expanded header, Google has been monitoring all of 
your communications with that sender. Even if you switch to ProtonMail, you 
will still have no privacy when corresponding with someone using Gmail or 
hidden Google servers. I tell such people that if they want to communicate with 
me, they will need to use a different email service, and they usually do.

2) Switch Search Engines. Google’s search engine is the best because it indexes 
far more web pages than anyone else — at least 45 billion. But Google (the 
search engine) is also the most aggressive spying tool ever invented — funded 
from the outset by the NSA and the CIA to identify people who are a threat to 
national security. Google records every search you conduct, and your Google 
profile contains a complete history of every search you ever conducted — even 
those sketchy ones! Worse still, my research has shown in recent years that 
Google’s search engine is also the most powerful mind control device ever 
devised; it shifts the opinions of millions of people around the world every 
day without them knowing it. Instead of using Google.com, use 
http://StartPage.com. If you use the Firebox browser, you can even make 
StartPage your default search engine. Why StartPage? Because it doesn’t track 
you, and because it gives you full access to Google’s amazing index. In other 
words, it gives you great search results while also preserving your privacy. 
StartPage also doesn’t give you any search suggestions, which Google uses 
systematically to direct your searches as they please.

3) Kill Chrome. Google developed the Chrome browser because the massive amount 
of information they were collecting about you from their search engine wasn’t 
enough for them. With Chrome, they can see which web pages you visit — and what 
you do on those pages — even if you go to those pages directly rather than 
going through their search engine. If you value your privacy, never use Chrome, 
even in the bogus “incognito” mode. Instead, use http://Firefox.com, which is 
maintained by a nonprofit organization. As I reveal in “The New Censorship,” 
Google can still get information about you when you’re using Firefox or Safari, 
but nowhere near as much as they get when you’re using Chrome.

4) Axe Android. As I explain in “Google’s Gotcha,” even Chrome didn’t give 
Google enough information about you, so the company developed Android, an 
operating system for phones and other mobile devices — the equivalent of the 
Windows operating system that’s on most desktop computers. Chrome gives Google 
information about you only when you’re online, but because Android controls all 
your phone’s functions, it can track you — the phone numbers you dial or the 
music files you access , for example—even when you’re offline. If you value 
your privacy, donate your Android phone to a charity (such as 
http://CellPhonesForSoldiers.com), and buy a phone from a company that doesn’t 
use Google’s deceptive business model. Companies like Apple, Microsoft and 
Blackberry make most of their money by selling products, whereas Google makes 
almost all of its money by suckering you with free services it uses to 

Re: App for reading txt and pdf files

[Anna Dresner]

Hello,

Yes, you can use Dropbox to import into Dolphin Easy Reader. I just did it with 
an ePub. You locate the book in Dropbox, flick up or down until you reach 
Export, and then double-tap. You may need to double-tap Open In to get Easy 
Reader to show up as an option. Then choose Easy Reader, and the book is 
imported. You can also use the Files app to import files.

Best,
Anna




> On Apr 15, 2018, at 11:17 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Alexandra,
>  
> I've played around some more with Dolphin Easy Reader since my last post and 
> I'm not sure It works with content in Dropbox. At least I couldn't figure out 
> yesterday how to load Dropbox content into it. I'll add to Richard's comment 
> that Voice Dream Reader is the best of these reading apps in terms of 
> features and versatility at accessing the type of content I use.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: App for reading txt and pdf files
>  
> I did not quite understand what you were asking. My favorite app for reading 
> files that I download from DropBox is Voice Dream Reader. 
> You can set VoiceDream Reader to stop after every sentence, or pause it and 
> navigate back or forward by sentence.
> Plus you have the option to use higher quality voices, though some of the new 
> VoiceOver voices are quite good.
> You can also then read books from BookShare, Word, Etc.
> Richard
>  
> 
>  
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 5:55 AM, Alexandra  > wrote:
> 
>> Sounds good, I will try that. Thanks!
>> Am Freitag, 13. April 2018 um 23:07 schrieb Alan Lemly:
>> 
>> You might try the Dolphin Easy Reader. I've started playing around
>>> with it a bit but don't have much experience at this point. I still
>>> really like Voice Dream Reader and don't like learning a lot of apps the do 
>>> the same thing.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:11 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: App for reading txt and pdf files
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> YOu can also read PDFs in iBooks.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Richard Turner
>>> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> What's wrong with using the Dropbox app and VoiceOver? 
>> 
>> 
>> Or, the app you used to create the text files.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not sure exactly what you are wanting to do.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”
>> 
>> 
>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Alexandra > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> which app do you use for reading your own texts? I'm looking for an
>>> app that allows me to read my own txt and pdf files stored in
>>> dropbox conviniently. Voice dream reader wouldn't be my first
>>> choice, as I find it rather overloaded with features and don't like
>>> the way menues are presented. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> Alexandra
>> 
>> 
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Apple watch aps

['Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone]

Hi Apple watch users

wondered if any of you apple watch users are using it for running and if so 
which aps do you use please.

Thanks
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Re: New Apple watch features

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello Maria,

There have been several articles talking about in watch OS 4.3, the ability to 
let third party developers have the ability to create watch faces has been 
implemented, but Apple has not yet actually released it to the developers.  So 
many are speculating, as well as hoping that Apple actually opens this up to 
developers in watch OS 5.
As we all know, only Apple knows what is actually going to happen.  We can all 
hope, but that is really all it is, just hope!

Chris


> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:17 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> Hi, I thought I heard somewhere that in WatchOS 5 there will be a new feature 
> that allows third party watch faces. Has anyone else heard of this feature?
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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi. I went from a series 1 to a series 3 and the difference was huge. I was 
about to give up on the Apple watch because the series 1 had gotten s slow 
and bogged down but I decided to try the series 3 and I’m so very glad I did. 
Seriously, it’s a major upgrade from the 1 to the 3.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sarai 
Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

 

My series 1 is just so slow.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

 

I think you can buy it now, of course nobody knows what will happen, but I 
doubt the watch will get a big upgrade if any in the fall and the series 3 is 
apparently very good. I bought a series 2 in October of 2016 and while it’s not 
bad, I find now after a year and a half it’s a bit slow. I did a reset and set 
it up as a new device and that helped a bit, but I must say I’m definitely not 
100% satisfied with how snappy it is and from what I understand the series 3 is 
much more responsive which of course can be expected to a point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 > On Behalf Of 
Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 1:40 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com  
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: apple watch buy or wait?

 

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I love the SS version, but for that reason I just cannot see spending that kind 
of money for a product that won’t last as long.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

 

Given the sluggishness of the series 2 I can only imagine what a series 1 would 
be like. It is interesting how Apple succeeds in getting people to buy what are 
expensive watches every few years. It used to be that one would buy a quality 
watch and have it for many years, even decades or a lifetime. Now Apple has 
taken the watch and made it into just another technology gadget which needs to 
be updated every 3 or 4 years. When I bought mine I bought the stainless steel 
version because I liked the fact that it had a sapphire crystal screen and 
sounded just a bit tougher. I do sometimes wear it in my woodworking shop or 
when I’m out  and about doing stuff and when I had a braille watch I broke the 
lid/crystal on a pretty regular bases. I think next time if I do eventually 
upgrade I’ll buy whatever is the cheapest model given the fact that one can’t 
expect to get 6 or 8 let alone 10 years out of it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 > On Behalf Of 
Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

 

My series 1 is just so slow.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

 

I think you can buy it now, of course nobody knows what will happen, but I 
doubt the watch will get a big upgrade if any in the fall and the series 3 is 
apparently very good. I bought a series 2 in October of 2016 and while it’s not 
bad, I find now after a year and a half it’s a bit slow. I did a reset and set 
it up as a new device and that helped a bit, but I must say I’m definitely not 
100% satisfied with how snappy it is and from what I understand the series 3 is 
much more responsive which of course can be expected to a point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 > On Behalf Of 
Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 1:40 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com  
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: apple watch buy or wait?

 

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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Re: Accessing icloud mail rules on iOS

[danielmcgee134]

Yes, that is correct. 









On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:42 AM +0100, "Christopher Chaltain" 
 wrote:











  

  
  


I assume we're talking about rules that automatically move
  messages into specific folders or take other actions on messages,
  such as deleting them.




On 04/15/2018 06:29 PM, Maria Reyes
  wrote:



  
  
  


Hi, What are iCloud rules? I’m not sure how
  much I can help because I use a Gmail address, but I can trty.



 


Sent from Mail for Windows 10


 

  

From: danielmcgee...@icloud.com

Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Accessing icloud mail rules on iOS



 


Hi jenn, thanks for letting me know the
  message came through. 

  

 


  

Yes you can access the icloud mail rules
via iOS by the website but first, you have to tell the
browser to request the desktop site. 


  

 


  

I can get this far but it is after I
login, tap the mail button, tap a button that for the
moment, the name escapes me. Its just above the back button
on the iPhone though. 


  

 


  

The next screen is where it says:
preferences, rules etc. This is the screen where VoiceOver
can read all the buttons but when double tapping on one of
them, it doesn't work. Even though by turning off VO. I was
able to by accident, get to the rules screen. 


  

 





  



  

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:37 PM +0100,
"Jennie Facer" 
wrote:
  

  

I wanted you to know your message
came through, but I am not sure about it. I thought you
could only access rules through the iCloud website.
  


 
  
  


Jenn

  

Jenn and Kumi


  



On Apr 15, 2018, at 1:20 PM, danielmcgee...@icloud.com
wrote:


  

  

  


Hi all, did anyone get
  my message? 
  
  


 
  
  


Thanks 
  
  


 
  
  


Daniel 
  


  

 

  





  



  

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:20
PM +0100, "Daniel McGee" 
wrote:
  

  Hi all 
   
  Trying to find a consistent way in which I can access 
my created mail rules at
   
   icloud.com
   
  but on iOS with VoiceOver. 
   
  I know it is possible because I have  accidentally 
gotten to the page with a combination with voiceover  on and off.
   
  I can get up to a certain point after login in to my 
icloud account. However, once I've reached a certain stage in the steps in 
trying to access the rules, it becomes very difficult and this is the part 
where I had to turn off VoiceOver. It is also the part where I accessed the 
mail rules by accident.
   
   
  If there are any sighted folks on list and who know 
what part of the process I am talking about. If you could take a look at your 
icloud mail rules: if you have any and try to figure out a workaround from the 
VoiceOver point of view and share here what you did, that would be really 
appreciated. 
  Similarly,  For those who don't know what I'm