Re: I configured the email account I was having trouble with as i map. Here is what I can do with it.

[Christopher Chaltain]

From the URL I provided it says the following about the outgoing port:


 * *Outgoing Email Server:* mail.twc.com
 * *Port:* 587
 * *Requires Authentication:***Yes, or checked


I hope this helps.


On 9/5/19 12:12 AM, Kevin Minor wrote:

Hi Christopher.

I would do exactly as this page you gave says, but there's a problem.  I can 
change the incoming port, but I'm not finding anything regarding the outgoing 
port.  If I could change that, I think all would work great.  I really wish I 
could get the native email app to work the way I want. I'd really prefer to use 
it over Outlook, because the native app has everything I need. Maybe I'm not 
setting something right, and all I have to do is reexamine it.  I need to be 
careful doing that right now, however, because I'm one of those people who, 
when I start on a task like this, I'll keep at it until either I just can't get 
it to work, or I figure out what I'm doing wrong, and all finally works exactly 
the way I want.  I'm Bipolar, and one of the Bipolar things with me is I can 
get so focused on something that time gets by me, and I'm up way too late.  
I'll give it a look, and hopefully it will work.  If it does, I'll be very 
happy, but if it doesn't, I'll have to try to see if I can get Outlook 
configured.

Thanks a bunch for your instructions.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
Kevin and Jilly

P.S.  As I said, I'll check the port settings, see if I need to, or even can 
change something, and I'll let the list know how it went.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Malcolm Parfitt 
Subject: Re: I configured the email account I was having trouble with as i map. 
Here is what I can do with it.

A page like the following from Spectrum support, which gives instructions on 
how to use their email on an iPhone might help. I did notice that it's using 
IMAP though.
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spectrum.net%2Fsupport%2Finternet%2Fmobile-email-setup-ios-twc%3Fredirected%3Dtruedata=02%7C01%7C%7C9565cf9f0c334493393708d72fff4070%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637030645647523942sdata=2JYI6c3dNG80qmtxVPOFLRuqbkJke5x0f6jTYWhbIlU%3Dreserved=0


On 9/2/19 10:42 AM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Hello,


Sounds like your smtp server does not allow sending messages from outside their 
network.  As your phone is sending when connected to another network this would 
explain your issue.

You could ask your e-mail provider if they offer what is known as an 
authenticated smtp service.  If not you can buy this service at a relatively 
low cost.  You then use the server and enter its credentials and you can send 
e-mail from wherever you like no matter what network you are connected to.

Here in the UK EE my internet service provider does not offer an e-mail 
service.  I have an imap service with a company called names.com. I also have 
authenticated smtp from them so I can send and receive e-mail without 
difficulties.

Hope that makes sense.

Malcolm

Sent from my iPhone


On 2 Sep 2019, at 16:03, Kevin Minor  wrote:


Hi.

I just configured the email account on my iPhone that I wanted to use
to send and receive email messages as i map. I want to thank the
person who reminded me about relaying, and how some ISP providers
prevent that from being done. I think I now understand why it works
on my PC and not my iPhone. I have Spectrum Internet on the PC, and
I've never had problems sending and receiving email from it. My
iPhone, however, gets its service from AtandT wireless, so it's a
completely different provider, and their rules are probably
different. I can receive messages from that account, but I can't send
any. This is fine, but if I can't send from it, I can either call
AtandT to see if there is a solution, or I'll need to let the iPhone
native mail app know to use my exchange account as the one to send
replies, and not the i map one. Oh well, that's how it goes
sometimesddH a blessed day and don't work too hhardddKevin and Jilly

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RE: I configured the email account I was having trouble with as i map. Here is what I can do with it.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi Christopher.

I would do exactly as this page you gave says, but there's a problem.  I can 
change the incoming port, but I'm not finding anything regarding the outgoing 
port.  If I could change that, I think all would work great.  I really wish I 
could get the native email app to work the way I want. I'd really prefer to use 
it over Outlook, because the native app has everything I need. Maybe I'm not 
setting something right, and all I have to do is reexamine it.  I need to be 
careful doing that right now, however, because I'm one of those people who, 
when I start on a task like this, I'll keep at it until either I just can't get 
it to work, or I figure out what I'm doing wrong, and all finally works exactly 
the way I want.  I'm Bipolar, and one of the Bipolar things with me is I can 
get so focused on something that time gets by me, and I'm up way too late.  
I'll give it a look, and hopefully it will work.  If it does, I'll be very 
happy, but if it doesn't, I'll have to try to see if I can get Outlook 
configured.

Thanks a bunch for your instructions.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
Kevin and Jilly

P.S.  As I said, I'll check the port settings, see if I need to, or even can 
change something, and I'll let the list know how it went.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Malcolm Parfitt 
Subject: Re: I configured the email account I was having trouble with as i map. 
Here is what I can do with it.

A page like the following from Spectrum support, which gives instructions on 
how to use their email on an iPhone might help. I did notice that it's using 
IMAP though. 
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spectrum.net%2Fsupport%2Finternet%2Fmobile-email-setup-ios-twc%3Fredirected%3Dtruedata=02%7C01%7C%7C9565cf9f0c334493393708d72fff4070%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637030645647523942sdata=2JYI6c3dNG80qmtxVPOFLRuqbkJke5x0f6jTYWhbIlU%3Dreserved=0


On 9/2/19 10:42 AM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> Sounds like your smtp server does not allow sending messages from outside 
> their network.  As your phone is sending when connected to another network 
> this would explain your issue.
>
> You could ask your e-mail provider if they offer what is known as an 
> authenticated smtp service.  If not you can buy this service at a relatively 
> low cost.  You then use the server and enter its credentials and you can send 
> e-mail from wherever you like no matter what network you are connected to.
>
> Here in the UK EE my internet service provider does not offer an e-mail 
> service.  I have an imap service with a company called names.com. I also have 
> authenticated smtp from them so I can send and receive e-mail without 
> difficulties.
>
> Hope that makes sense.
>
> Malcolm
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 2 Sep 2019, at 16:03, Kevin Minor  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I just configured the email account on my iPhone that I wanted to use 
>> to send and receive email messages as i map. I want to thank the 
>> person who reminded me about relaying, and how some ISP providers 
>> prevent that from being done. I think I now understand why it works 
>> on my PC and not my iPhone. I have Spectrum Internet on the PC, and 
>> I've never had problems sending and receiving email from it. My 
>> iPhone, however, gets its service from AtandT wireless, so it's a 
>> completely different provider, and their rules are probably 
>> different. I can receive messages from that account, but I can't send 
>> any. This is fine, but if I can't send from it, I can either call 
>> AtandT to see if there is a solution, or I'll need to let the iPhone 
>> native mail app know to use my exchange account as the one to send 
>> replies, and not the i map one. Oh well, that's how it goes 
>> sometimesddH a blessed day and don't work too hhardddKevin and Jilly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: I've decided to use Outlook on my iPhone for email, but I have questions about it.

[Richard Turner]

Kevin,
In the Mail settings for the native mail app you can limit the preview so you 
only know who it was from and the subject.
You can also set if newest messages are on top or not.
That may require that threading is on; not sure.
I do not find those settings in the Outlook app.
I think again, with the native app, in the settings, I think you can set 
syncing to no limits; but maybe that is the calendar.
The limited numbers may indeed be a limit from either the iMap settings, or 
just the server.
Best of luck dealing with that many messages.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Peter Logan  wrote:


To show individual messages .. under settings make sure “organize by thread” is 
not checked ..

Not sure you can swap the order .. or the part of the message being displayed 
.. I haven’t seen that anywhere ..

As for removing your account from the stock mail .. that shouldn’t have any 
impact on the actual mail in that account.

As for the amount of mail .. that may be controlled by the exchange account .. 
mine goes back all the way to when my company moved to Outlook ..

Hope that helps some …

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I've decided to use Outlook on my iPhone for email, but I have 
questions about it.


Hi.

I was instructed by AT support to try to use the Outlook app on my iPhone for 
my I map issue, and it appears to work the way I want.  I do, however, have 
some questions regarding this app, and they’re similar to what I asked 
concerning the native mail app.  There are, however, some others I have.

First, how do I get Outlook to show individual messages rather then group them 
by conversation?

Is there a way to sort the messages in ascending order rather than have the 
most recent message on top?

How do I get all the messages from my Exchange account into the app at once?  
There is an option to get a few more at once, but that would take me forever to 
get over 160,000 messages, and I’d like to be able to use the app to organize 
all the older ones.

Is there a way to have Outlook display the date and time a message was received?

Now for two other questions, and they’re new ones. One deals with Outlook, and 
the other concerns the native mail app, and specifically deleting the accounts 
from it.

My outlook question deals with hearing part of a message when I’m looking at it 
in the In Box.  I don’t want that.  All I want is to hear where it came from, 
the subject, and when it was received.  If it appears to be something I’d like 
to read, I would then open it and read it for myself.

As for the native mail app, what happens if I delete my accounts from it?  I 
want to be sure that if I do delete the accounts, my email on my Exchange and I 
map servers won’t be deleted as well.  If they would be removed, I would not be 
happy, because I would lose a very very large amount of messages that I want to 
examine.  Most of these will be deleted, but some will be moved to the archive 
folder.  Will I be safe removing the accounts from the native mail app?

Thanks in advance for any help.  Right now I have two email apps with similar 
information in them.  I’m hoping to be able to switch from the native app to 
Outlook with minimal effort. Currently I’m using my PC to work with my 
messages, and until I can get Outlook on my iPhone configured the way I want, 
I’ll be continuing to use the native app to go through email when I’m out.

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.
Kevin and Jilly
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Is there a way to make the inbox appear in ascending order, from earliest 
message to latest? I have hunted through settings and such and can’t find it.

Thanks.

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RE: I've decided to use Outlook on my iPhone for email, but I have questions about it.

[Peter Logan]

To show individual messages .. under settings make sure “organize by thread” is 
not checked ..

 

Not sure you can swap the order .. or the part of the message being displayed 
.. I haven’t seen that anywhere ..

 

As for removing your account from the stock mail .. that shouldn’t have any 
impact on the actual mail in that account.

 

As for the amount of mail .. that may be controlled by the exchange account .. 
mine goes back all the way to when my company moved to Outlook .. 

 

Hope that helps some …

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I've decided to use Outlook on my iPhone for email, but I have 
questions about it.

 

 

Hi.

 

I was instructed by AT support to try to use the Outlook app on my iPhone for 
my I map issue, and it appears to work the way I want.  I do, however, have 
some questions regarding this app, and they’re similar to what I asked 
concerning the native mail app.  There are, however, some others I have.

 

First, how do I get Outlook to show individual messages rather then group them 
by conversation?

 

Is there a way to sort the messages in ascending order rather than have the 
most recent message on top?

 

How do I get all the messages from my Exchange account into the app at once?  
There is an option to get a few more at once, but that would take me forever to 
get over 160,000 messages, and I’d like to be able to use the app to organize 
all the older ones.

 

Is there a way to have Outlook display the date and time a message was received?

 

Now for two other questions, and they’re new ones. One deals with Outlook, and 
the other concerns the native mail app, and specifically deleting the accounts 
from it.

 

My outlook question deals with hearing part of a message when I’m looking at it 
in the In Box.  I don’t want that.  All I want is to hear where it came from, 
the subject, and when it was received.  If it appears to be something I’d like 
to read, I would then open it and read it for myself.

 

As for the native mail app, what happens if I delete my accounts from it?  I 
want to be sure that if I do delete the accounts, my email on my Exchange and I 
map servers won’t be deleted as well.  If they would be removed, I would not be 
happy, because I would lose a very very large amount of messages that I want to 
examine.  Most of these will be deleted, but some will be moved to the archive 
folder.  Will I be safe removing the accounts from the native mail app?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.  Right now I have two email apps with similar 
information in them.  I’m hoping to be able to switch from the native app to 
Outlook with minimal effort. Currently I’m using my PC to work with my 
messages, and until I can get Outlook on my iPhone configured the way I want, 
I’ll be continuing to use the native app to go through email when I’m out.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly

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I've decided to use Outlook on my iPhone for email, but I have questions about it.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

I was instructed by AT support to try to use the Outlook app on my iPhone for 
my I map issue, and it appears to work the way I want.  I do, however, have 
some questions regarding this app, and they're similar to what I asked 
concerning the native mail app.  There are, however, some others I have.

First, how do I get Outlook to show individual messages rather then group them 
by conversation?

Is there a way to sort the messages in ascending order rather than have the 
most recent message on top?

How do I get all the messages from my Exchange account into the app at once?  
There is an option to get a few more at once, but that would take me forever to 
get over 160,000 messages, and I'd like to be able to use the app to organize 
all the older ones.

Is there a way to have Outlook display the date and time a message was received?

Now for two other questions, and they're new ones. One deals with Outlook, and 
the other concerns the native mail app, and specifically deleting the accounts 
from it.

My outlook question deals with hearing part of a message when I'm looking at it 
in the In Box.  I don't want that.  All I want is to hear where it came from, 
the subject, and when it was received.  If it appears to be something I'd like 
to read, I would then open it and read it for myself.

As for the native mail app, what happens if I delete my accounts from it?  I 
want to be sure that if I do delete the accounts, my email on my Exchange and I 
map servers won't be deleted as well.  If they would be removed, I would not be 
happy, because I would lose a very very large amount of messages that I want to 
examine.  Most of these will be deleted, but some will be moved to the archive 
folder.  Will I be safe removing the accounts from the native mail app?

Thanks in advance for any help.  Right now I have two email apps with similar 
information in them.  I'm hoping to be able to switch from the native app to 
Outlook with minimal effort. Currently I'm using my PC to work with my 
messages, and until I can get Outlook on my iPhone configured the way I want, 
I'll be continuing to use the native app to go through email when I'm out.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
Kevin and Jilly

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Manage Health data on your iPhone, iPod touch, or Apple Watch

You can set up apps and accessories to send data to the Health app, enter
data manually, and change how Health prioritizes data from those sources.

How Health handles data from multiple sources
The Health app takes similar data from different sources, like steps
recorded from your iPhone and activity from your Apple Watch, and organizes
it based on where it comes from. By default, Health prioritizes data in this
order:
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2.  Data from your iPhone, iPod touch, and Apple Watch. 
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When you add a new data source, it appears above all other apps and devices
that contribute data for steps in Health. You can change the order of
sources at any time. 
 
View your data sources
Here's how to see which sources update data for specific Health categories:
1.  Open the Health app and tap the Health Data tab.
2.  Tap a category, like Activity. If you don't see the category, swipe
down to reveal the search bar, then enter a category.
3.  Tap a data type, like Steps.
4.  Tap Data Sources & Access. Only the sources that contribute to that
data type will appear. 

Here's how to see all of your sources:
1.  Open the Health app and tap the Sources tab. 
2.  Tap an app or device. 
3.  Choose categories that you want the source to access or update in
the Health app.
 
Prioritize data sources
Here's how to choose the sources that Health uses first:
1.  Open the Health app and tap the Health Data tab.
2.  Tap a category, like Activity.
3.  Tap a data type, like Steps.
4.  Tap Data Sources & Access, then tap Edit.
5.  Touch and hold   next to a data source, then drag it up or down in
the list. 
6.  To turn off a data source so that it doesn't contribute any more
data for that category, tap the checkmark next to the source.
7.  Tap Done.
If multiple sources contribute the same data type, then the data source at
the top will take priority over other sources. Any new apps or devices that
you add go to the top of the list automatically, above your iPhone or iPod
touch. 
 
Enter data
You can enter data that isn't tracked by an app or device. For example, if
you get your blood pressure from a doctor's visit, you can enter it.
1.  Open the Health app and tap the Health Data tab. 
2.  Tap a health category, like Vitals.
3.  Tap a data type, like Blood Pressure.
4.  Tap  , in the upper-right corner.
5.  Enter the date, time, and data for that activity.
6.  When you're finished, tap Add.

 
Explore more Health features
.   Set up and use the Health app on your iPhone or iPod touch.
.   Set up a Medical ID in the Health app to access important medical
information.
.   Track your sleep with Bedtime in the Clock app.
.   With iOS 11.3, you can see your health records from multiple
institutions right on your iPhone. Add your health records and see the
supported institutions. 

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RE: Talking Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That depends entirely on your schedule and who else lives in your house and 
their schedule. At my retail store we also use connected thermostats and since 
there are of course regular hours it is easy to set a schedule for the heat to 
come on about half an hour before opening time and get things to a certain 
level and to also get it to turn the heat down to 15 Celsius about 15 minutes 
before closing However, at our house this wouldn't work because my wife usually 
comes to the store 3 or 4 times a week and sometimes she goes with me in the 
morning and sometimes she comes later, sometimes I may go at 7 AM and other 
times at Noon. It is much easier for us to use our smart thermostat with our 
smart speakers at home or, when we are both at the store, on our iPhones to 
turn the heat up a bit before we go home or to turn it down if we forget to 
tell Alexa or the Google Home to do so when we leave.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

The thing about programmable thermostats is that it is usually a set and forget 
thing. I hardly ever have occasion to diddle with the thermostat once the 
programming is done.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats


I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control 
panel is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, 
program it on the touch screen.
The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, 
we call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done 
buttons so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet 
access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told 
me the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key 
since you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your 
specific thermostat.

It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth 
paying to have that done as it protects the warrantee.

HTH,
Richard
.

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-Original Message-
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I 
don't think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. 
Maybe with the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could 
be done, never tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make 
some sort of tactile overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that 
works. I still have a plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as 
well (the one with the lever underneath which you push from left to right) 
so if the smart thermostat for some reason does not work I can simply use 
it. I must say, however, that I probably had to do this once or twice in the 
years I had my smart thermostat, but it of course all depends on how 
reliable your internet is. There have been definitely more times when a 
power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours was an issue although for 
us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter since we have a wood 
stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our house if we leave all 
the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric 
T5 has to be hardwired.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in 
any kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance 
just raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't 
mean programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this 
thread which was powered by 4 AA batteries?

Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure 
Nest thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a 
Honeywell Lyric T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also 
works very well and has an accessible app and it only costs less than half 
of what a 

Re: iphone not talking

[Janet Bell]

Hi Holly thanks for this will give it a go when I know my phone is unlocked.  
thanks for your help.  Janet

From: Holly 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:02 PM
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Subject: Re: iphone not talking

Janet:

Just a thought, but do a three finger double tap on the screen.  This gesture 
will toggle speech off and on.  Voice over should announce ‘speech off’ or 
‘speech on’.

Sometimes you can accidently turn speech off, but voice over will still be on.
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Re: iphone not talking

[Janet Bell]

Hi Gordon when I get help to try and find out if my phone is on I will try your 
suggestion.  thanks for your help.  Janet

From: Gordon 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:15 PM
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Subject: Re: iphone not talking

I think I might know what could possibly be the issue. When speech volume is 
set to 0 in the rotor, you wont get speech unless you're using Alex for some 
reason. He will speak if the rotor volume is below 5 percent. So here's what to 
try. Make sure your phone is unlocked and turn the rotor and flick up once each 
time you turn it. I'm not sure how many things you have in your rotor, but 10 
times of turning and flicking up once might get you to the volume. A lot of 
people have lost speech and got it back by doing this. Actually I've given this 
advice to several people here on this list over the years and they've had 
success with it.  


On 9/4/2019 12:05 PM, Janet Bell wrote:

  I Have restarted it and turned voice over on and off and on again.Janet

  From: Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 5:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: iphone not talking

  Hi Jannet, try to do restart to your iPhone. To me it helps. I have this 
issue but it made it for a while  but  come back for a few times. I think that 
you need to report to Apple accessibility for your problem. Try to deactivate 
and activate voiceover again and see if it solves the problem.

  נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

  ‫ב-4 בספט׳ 2019, בשעה 19:51, ‏‏Janet Bell ‏ כתב/ה:‬


evening all, please can someone help me my iPhone is switched on and when I 
ask siri to switch voiceover of she does and then I get it switched back on 
again but when I come of the siri part my phone is not talking to me at all.  
any suggestions please?  Janet
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Re: A Voice Dream Testimonial

[Michael Feir]

Thanks to Voice Dream Reader, I can go off the beeten path and use sources
for books like
www.storybundle.com
www.humblebundle.com
www.bundleofholding.com
and many others. This has let me build my library and discover many
fascinating stories. Also, I've been able to find book bundles about topics
dear to me such as game creation, roleplaying games, creative writing, and
more. These books would never be made accessible by libraries for the
blind. I have also backed authors on Kickstarter and been able to read the
books which were published due to backers like me. A splendid example of
this was the Sherlock Meets Steampunk kickstarter. That one netted me a
whole lot of perfectly accessible Sherlock Holmes anthologies I never would
have otherwise found out about let alone been able to obtain accessibly.
Voice Dream Reader opens a tremendous realm of reading territory.

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:35 PM Duane Steele  wrote:

>
> You're right, Mary, and you can't read Kindle books either. I should have
> pointed that out. But even given those drawbacks, Voice Dream Reader is
> awesome with PDF files and Bookshare books. Thanks for your response, and
> for affirming Voice Dream's value.
>
>
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
>
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Hi Wayne, I certainly agree with your assessment of the voice dream reader
> and scanner product. However, it is not true that the only books you can’t
> read are Apple Books. You can’t read any books with DRM, unless you have
> gotten rid of the DRM, a topic which is not up for discussion on this list
> for obvious reasons. That would include Books sold by other companies as
> well.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>
> This platform, besides answering questions about issues raised with APPS
> on our iDevices, is a great forum to recommend great APPS.  With all the
> discussion about whether or not to purchase Voice Dream Reader, I'll go on
> record daring to say that Voice Dream Reader's one of the greatest programs
> ever created for our devices.  You can read books from Bookshare and
> Gutenberg, import documents from Dropbox and other cloud storage, open and
> read files in all kinds of formats including PDF and mp3, and you even have
> the option of reading in audio, and, if using a braille device, in
> braille.  Although you can purchase Voice Dream's APPS separately, I highly
> recommend Voice Dream Reader and Voice Dream Scanner as purchases worth far
> more than the price tag in the APP store indicates.  The only texts you
> can’t read are APPLE books and thats only because iTunes doesn’t allow
> access by Voice Dream.
>
>
> Peace & Blessings,
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> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: A Voice Dream Testimonial

[Duane Steele]

You're right, Mary, and you can't read Kindle books either. I should have 
pointed that out. But even given those drawbacks, Voice Dream Reader is awesome 
with PDF files and Bookshare books. Thanks for your response, and for affirming 
Voice Dream's value.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne, I certainly agree with your assessment of the voice dream reader 
> and scanner product. However, it is not true that the only books you can’t 
> read are Apple Books. You can’t read any books with DRM, unless you have 
> gotten rid of the DRM, a topic which is not up for discussion on this list 
> for obvious reasons. That would include Books sold by other companies as 
> well. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> This platform, besides answering questions about issues raised with APPS on 
>> our iDevices, is a great forum to recommend great APPS.  With all the 
>> discussion about whether or not to purchase Voice Dream Reader, I'll go on 
>> record daring to say that Voice Dream Reader's one of the greatest programs 
>> ever created for our devices.  You can read books from Bookshare and 
>> Gutenberg, import documents from Dropbox and other cloud storage, open and 
>> read files in all kinds of formats including PDF and mp3, and you even have 
>> the option of reading in audio, and, if using a braille device, in braille.  
>> Although you can purchase Voice Dream's APPS separately, I highly recommend 
>> Voice Dream Reader and Voice Dream Scanner as purchases worth far more than 
>> the price tag in the APP store indicates.  The only texts you can’t read are 
>> APPLE books and thats only because iTunes doesn’t allow access by Voice 
>> Dream.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: A Voice Dream Testimonial

[Mary Otten]

Hi Wayne, I certainly agree with your assessment of the voice dream reader and 
scanner product. However, it is not true that the only books you can’t read are 
Apple Books. You can’t read any books with DRM, unless you have gotten rid of 
the DRM, a topic which is not up for discussion on this list for obvious 
reasons. That would include Books sold by other companies as well. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> This platform, besides answering questions about issues raised with APPS on 
> our iDevices, is a great forum to recommend great APPS.  With all the 
> discussion about whether or not to purchase Voice Dream Reader, I'll go on 
> record daring to say that Voice Dream Reader's one of the greatest programs 
> ever created for our devices.  You can read books from Bookshare and 
> Gutenberg, import documents from Dropbox and other cloud storage, open and 
> read files in all kinds of formats including PDF and mp3, and you even have 
> the option of reading in audio, and, if using a braille device, in braille.  
> Although you can purchase Voice Dream's APPS separately, I highly recommend 
> Voice Dream Reader and Voice Dream Scanner as purchases worth far more than 
> the price tag in the APP store indicates.  The only texts you can’t read are 
> APPLE books and thats only because iTunes doesn’t allow access by Voice Dream.
> 
> 
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Re: Talking Thermostats

[Andy Baracco]

The thing about programmable thermostats is that it is usually a set and 
forget thing. I hardly ever have occasion to diddle with the thermostat once 
the programming is done.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats


I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control 
panel is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, 
program it on the touch screen.

The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, 
we call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done 
buttons so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet 
access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told 
me the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key 
since you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your 
specific thermostat.


It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth 
paying to have that done as it protects the warrantee.


HTH,
Richard
.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I 
don't think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. 
Maybe with the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could 
be done, never tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make 
some sort of tactile overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that 
works. I still have a plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as 
well (the one with the lever underneath which you push from left to right) 
so if the smart thermostat for some reason does not work I can simply use 
it. I must say, however, that I probably had to do this once or twice in the 
years I had my smart thermostat, but it of course all depends on how 
reliable your internet is. There have been definitely more times when a 
power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours was an issue although for 
us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter since we have a wood 
stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our house if we leave all 
the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric 
T5 has to be hardwired.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost

Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in 
any kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance 
just raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't 
mean programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this 
thread which was powered by 4 AA batteries?


Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure 
Nest thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a 
Honeywell Lyric T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also 
works very well and has an accessible app and it only costs less than half 
of what a Nest costs.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn

Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.


Dulce


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Re: Creating a play list in You Player

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Ihad to quit using YouPlayerAppe no longer ts it. Unless you know how to get 
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Re: iphone not talking

[Gordon]

I think I might know what could possibly be the issue. When speech 
volume is set to 0 in the rotor, you wont get speech unless you're using 
Alex for some reason. He will speak if the rotor volume is below 5 
percent. So here's what to try. Make sure your phone is unlocked and 
turn the rotor and flick up once each time you turn it. I'm not sure how 
many things you have in your rotor, but 10 times of turning and flicking 
up once might get you to the volume. A lot of people have lost speech 
and got it back by doing this. Actually I've given this advice to 
several people here on this list over the years and they've had success 
with it.


On 9/4/2019 12:05 PM, Janet Bell wrote:

I Have restarted it and turned voice over on and off and on again.Janet
*From:* Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2019 5:58 PM
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*Subject:* Re: iphone not talking
Hi Jannet, try to do restart to your iPhone. To me it helps. I have 
this issue but it made it for a while  but  come back for a few times. 
I think that you need to report to Apple accessibility for your 
problem. Try to deactivate and activate voiceover again and see if it 
solves the problem.

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‫ב-4 בספט׳ 2019, בשעה 19:51, ‏‏Janet Bell ‏ כתב/ה:‬

evening all, please can someone help me my iPhone is switched on and 
when I ask siri to switch voiceover of she does and then I get it 
switched back on again but when I come of the siri part my phone is 
not talking to me at all.  any suggestions please?  Janet

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Re: iphone not talking

[Janet Bell]

I Have restarted it and turned voice over on and off and on again.Janet

From: Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 5:58 PM
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Hi Jannet, try to do restart to your iPhone. To me it helps. I have this issue 
but it made it for a while  but  come back for a few times. I think that you 
need to report to Apple accessibility for your problem. Try to deactivate and 
activate voiceover again and see if it solves the problem.

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‫ב-4 בספט׳ 2019, בשעה 19:51, ‏‏Janet Bell ‏ כתב/ה:‬


  evening all, please can someone help me my iPhone is switched on and when I 
ask siri to switch voiceover of she does and then I get it switched back on 
again but when I come of the siri part my phone is not talking to me at all.  
any suggestions please?  Janet
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Re: iphone not talking

[Holly]

Janet:

Just a thought, but do a three finger double tap on the screen.  This gesture 
will toggle speech off and on.  Voice over should announce ‘speech off’ or 
‘speech on’.

Sometimes you can accidently turn speech off, but voice over will still be on.

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Re: iphone not talking

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Hi Jannet, try to do restart to your iPhone. To me it helps. I have this issue 
but it made it for a while  but  come back for a few times. I think that you 
need to report to Apple accessibility for your problem. Try to deactivate and 
activate voiceover again and see if it solves the problem.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

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> evening all, please can someone help me my iPhone is switched on and when I 
> ask siri to switch voiceover of she does and then I get it switched back on 
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> any suggestions please?  Janet
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iphone not talking

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evening all, please can someone help me my iPhone is switched on and when I ask 
siri to switch voiceover of she does and then I get it switched back on again 
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Re: Talking Thermostats

[Richard Turner]

It connects through your WiFi.
It is just hard wired to the furnace/AC.


Richard

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On Sep 4, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,
Good to know than you. So the hard wiring gives it its power but is it 
connecting via wi-fi then? It isn't hard wired to your modem/router then is it? 
I didn't think so but didn't want to assume.


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control panel 
is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, program it on 
the touch screen.
The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, we 
call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done buttons 
so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told me 
the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key since 
you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your specific 
thermostat.

It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth paying 
to have that done as it protects the warrantee.

HTH,
Richard
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Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I don't 
think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. Maybe with 
the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could be done, never 
tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make some sort of tactile 
overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that works. I still have a 
plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as well (the one with the lever 
underneath which you push from left to right) so if the smart thermostat for 
some reason does not work I can simply use it. I must say, however, that I 
probably had to do this once or twice in the years I had my smart thermostat, 
but it of course all depends on how reliable your internet is. There have been 
definitely more times when a power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours 
was an issue although for us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter 
since we have a wood stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our 
house if we leave all the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric T5 
has to be hardwired.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in any 
kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance just 
raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't mean 
programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this thread 
which was powered by 4 AA batteries?

Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure Nest 
thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a Honeywell Lyric 
T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also works very well and 
has an accessible app and it only costs less than half of what a Nest costs.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.

Dulce


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On 4 Sep 2019, at 16:25, Susie Stageberg  wrote:


Is there a way to make the inbox appear in ascending order, from earliest 
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Re: Talking Thermostats

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Good to know than you. So the hard wiring gives it its power but is it 
connecting via wi-fi then? It isn't hard wired to your modem/router then is 
it? I didn't think so but didn't want to assume.



-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control 
panel is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, 
program it on the touch screen.

The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, 
we call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done 
buttons so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet 
access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told 
me the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key 
since you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your 
specific thermostat.


It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth 
paying to have that done as it protects the warrantee.


HTH,
Richard
.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I 
don't think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. 
Maybe with the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could 
be done, never tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make 
some sort of tactile overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that 
works. I still have a plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as 
well (the one with the lever underneath which you push from left to right) 
so if the smart thermostat for some reason does not work I can simply use 
it. I must say, however, that I probably had to do this once or twice in the 
years I had my smart thermostat, but it of course all depends on how 
reliable your internet is. There have been definitely more times when a 
power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours was an issue although for 
us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter since we have a wood 
stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our house if we leave all 
the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric 
T5 has to be hardwired.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost

Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in 
any kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance 
just raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't 
mean programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this 
thread which was powered by 4 AA batteries?


Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure 
Nest thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a 
Honeywell Lyric T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also 
works very well and has an accessible app and it only costs less than half 
of what a Nest costs.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn

Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.


Dulce


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RE: Talking Thermostats

[Richard Turner]

I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control panel 
is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, program it on 
the touch screen.
The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, we 
call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done buttons 
so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told me 
the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key since 
you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your specific 
thermostat.

It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth paying 
to have that done as it protects the warrantee.

HTH,
Richard
.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I don't 
think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. Maybe with 
the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could be done, never 
tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make some sort of tactile 
overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that works. I still have a 
plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as well (the one with the lever 
underneath which you push from left to right) so if the smart thermostat for 
some reason does not work I can simply use it. I must say, however, that I 
probably had to do this once or twice in the years I had my smart thermostat, 
but it of course all depends on how reliable your internet is. There have been 
definitely more times when a power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours 
was an issue although for us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter 
since we have a wood stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our 
house if we leave all the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric T5 
has to be hardwired.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in any 
kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance just 
raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't mean 
programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this thread 
which was powered by 4 AA batteries?

Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure Nest 
thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a Honeywell Lyric 
T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also works very well and 
has an accessible app and it only costs less than half of what a Nest costs.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.

Dulce


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RE: Talking thermostat.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Anybody who gets a connected smart thermostat who is concerned about the 
thermostat not working could always ask the installer who is usually needed to 
install such a device to also install an old-fashioned mechanical thermostat 
next to it. Under normal circumstances just keep the lever all the way to one 
side so the heat would never come on, but if for some reason your internet is 
down or you can't use the smart thermostat you have an easy work-around, just 
push the lever of your mechanical thermostat to the right (most of them make it 
warmer the further to the right you go) and you are done. You could even get 
somebody to make a tactile marking at what you consider a comfortable 
temperature like 21 Celsius. Tone of these costs maybe $15 or $20 at most and 
it would take an installer an extra 5 minutes to hook it up.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking thermostat.

You can also look up the standalone VIP 3000 thermostat and see if they have it 
on Amazon.

Also check and see if they have ones controlled using the Internet. Also, goes 
if internet down you could use Be My Eyes or use FaceTime so there’s always 
work around as you guys are well aware of.

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RE: Talking Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I don't 
think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. Maybe with 
the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could be done, never 
tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make some sort of tactile 
overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that works. I still have a 
plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as well (the one with the lever 
underneath which you push from left to right) so if the smart thermostat for 
some reason does not work I can simply use it. I must say, however, that I 
probably had to do this once or twice in the years I had my smart thermostat, 
but it of course all depends on how reliable your internet is. There have been 
definitely more times when a power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours 
was an issue although for us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter 
since we have a wood stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our 
house if we leave all the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric T5 
has to be hardwired.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in any 
kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance just 
raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't mean 
programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this thread 
which was powered by 4 AA batteries?

Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure Nest 
thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a Honeywell Lyric 
T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also works very well and 
has an accessible app and it only costs less than half of what a Nest costs.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.

Dulce


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Re: A Strange Speaker Sound Scenario with Mark's Apple Watch, Series 4, with LTE

[Angie Nutt]

I’ve had the same problem with both my Apple watches and it has never cleared 
up on its own. I haven’t tried resetting and pairing again as yet. In both 
cases they accidentally got dowsed with water from a tap.

All the best
Angie

> On 3 Sep 2019, at 16:36, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I just saw this now and to me it's no great mystery, my Apple Watch series 2 
> sounds very muffled every time I take it swimming for a couple of hours 
> afterwards. Not sure why you even turned it off when you cleaned it, I would 
> have just turned on the waterlock and stuck it under the tap. I guess maybe 
> your friend didn't have water get directly into the speaker, but if water 
> does go in then even turning waterlock on and off doesn't fix the muffled 
> sound, only a couple of hours will fix it as whatever moisture is in there 
> dries out. You wasted a lot of time and effort for nothing a bit of time 
> wouldn't have fixed as you experienced afterwards. I bet if you turned on 
> waterlock and submersed your watch in a bowl of water for 10 minutes you 
> would experience the same thing.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> ---Original Message-
> From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Strange Speaker Sound Scenario with Mark's Apple Watch, Series 
> 4, with LTE
> 
> Oh, man. I don't know anything about these things, but I'd still be a bit 
> uneasy about it. Hmmm.
> 
> Karen
> At 09:28 PM 9/2/2019, you wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> As the following makes absolutely no sense to me or any of the Apple 
>> Techs with whom I discussed this matter, I will simply list what 
>> happened earlier
>> today:
>> 
>> 1.
>> With Apple Watch powered off, ran tiny stream of water over device to clean.
>> At the same time, a visiting friend, with an identical device, did 
>> same, using same water source.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Upon powering up Apple watch, speaker sound was muffled on my device 
>> but not on friend's device.  Attempted to clear water from speaker 
>> using Water lock feature, no fewer than 15 times.  No success.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Rebooted my device several times but speaker remained muffled.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Went to Apple Store Genius Barr where they heard muffled sound as 
>> compared to friend's device, with regard to VoiceOver.  They, like I, 
>> checked every conceivable setting on the device and all was as it should 
>> have been.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Because I have Apple Care Plus on my Watch, for faster service, used 
>> onboard Apple Support app to begin replacement process, said process 
>> having Apple ship me a new device, overnight delivery, via FedEx.  I 
>> began this process while at the genius Barr, using my beloved iPhone 8 Plus.
>> 
>> 6.
>> In order to begin the replacement process, I had to unpair my watch 
>> from my phone; then, the Apple tech could set up the shipping details 
>> and create the RMA log.
>> 
>> 7.
>> The final step in the process was to authorize Apple to put a hold on 
>> my credit card before they ship the new watch.  Then, if I do not 
>> return the old watch after having received the new one, they can charge 
>> me for the new watch.  I have 3 days to complete the final step in the 
>> replacement process.
>> I decided to wait until I returned home before providing my payment 
>> info as I was not certain if they would accept Apple Pay or if I would 
>> have to enter my card info, directly.  The people at the Genious Barr 
>> could not give me a definitive answer so I decided to wait until I was 
>> in a more secure and quiet location before proceeding.
>> 
>> 8.
>> On the way home, in the car, I decided to pair my current device back 
>> to my phone so that I could continue to use it, muffled as it was, 
>> while I waited for the new watch to arrive.
>> 
>> 9.
>> During the pairing process, the sound quality switched from muffled to 
>> normal.  I heard it happen as I had VoiceOver enabled during the process.
>> It was weird, to be totally honest.  The sound simply returned to 
>> normal.  I mean it was flawless.  Mind you, the time between when the 
>> Apple genius heard the sound and the time in which it returned to normal 
>> could not have
>> been longer than 15 minutes.   After paring the watch, I ran it through a
>> battery of sound tests, comparing it with my friend's watch, and they 
>> were virtually identical.
>> 
>> 10.
>> Back at home, I ran both my watch and my friend's watch under some 
>> water, just as I had done, earlier.  This time, however, the sound on 
>> both watches was perfect.
>> 
>> 11.
>> Conducted more sound comparison tests and was satisfied that my watch 
>> is in good working order.
>> 
>> 12.
>> Called Apple Care to update them on the status of my watch and the 
>> representative documented the episode, thoroughly and we both agreed to 
>> leave the current RMA in place and allow it to expire on Thursday.  
>> This means that should I authorize Apple to place a hold