Degoo cloud storage

[KliphnShari Miller]

> 
> 
> 
>> 
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>> most accessible, but is usible.  You get 100GB free, that’s more than 
>> Dropbox, OneDrive, GoogleDrive, and iCloud put together as it relates to 
>> free storage.  And for every friend you invite and excepts, you both get 
>> 10GB for free to add to your storage.  You can also watch daily adds to get 
>> 1.2GB free also.  So use my link, and we both get 10GB, and then invite all 
>> your other friends, and keep getting free storage.
>> 
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Re: a call audio routing question

[Mike B.]

Hi Duane,

See if these notes help, because there are 2 places for making this setting 
change:

**This is where the setting is for when the phone switches to the speaker 
phone when you move the phone away from your ear, & it switches to speaker 
phone.

Settings / General / Accessibility / Voice Over / Audio

If you want the phone to switch to the speaker phone when you take the phone 
away from your ear, have this setting turned on.


**To change the auto speakerphone settings do the following:

 Open Settings / General / Accessibility, & swipe to  the, Interaction 
Heading, & the option to change the auto speaker phone settings are found 
here,
Call Audio Routing, and double tap on it to open / change options, then exit 
out of settings as usual.

**From: Vollbrecht Family via iDevices
If I understand what you are referring to, automatic switching between 
speakerphone and the earpiece, this is based on the proximity sensor. It is 
designed
so that you can pull the phone away from your ear and automatically switch 
to speaker, but I have always found it to be a bit overly sensitive. In iOS
10, under settings, general, accessibility, voiceover, and audio, you can 
disable this feature.
Vollbrecht Family



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- Original Message - 
From: Duane Steele
To: IPhone List
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 6:14 PM
Subject: a call audio routing question


Sometimes I like to route audio calls to my speaker instead of bluetooth. 
But in the latest iOS version, I can't find it anymore.  I've looked in 
audio under VoiceOver and it's just gone.  Thanks for any help you might 
hive me in this.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Turning On Voiceover on MacBook Air

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

I have just ordered a MacBook Air and it would be here next week.

I have never used Apple laptop before so I would like to know how to turn on
Voiceover independently and other basic voiceover commands to start with.

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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a call audio routing question

[Duane Steele]

Sometimes I like to route audio calls to my speaker instead of bluetooth.  But 
in the latest iOS version, I can't find it anymore.  I've looked in audio under 
VoiceOver and it's just gone.  Thanks for any help you might hive me in this.


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Re: iMazing

[Richard Turner]

Well, I was a private beta tester for Window-Eyes for more than 10 years.
In fact, I wrote some of the set files they included on their CD.
The problem with using it in Windows 10, is that as Windows 10 makes changes, 
nothing is being done to keep Window-Eyes up to date.
Yes, it might be worth installing for this one program, but the risk of other 
complications is just not worth it to me.
More power to those who continue to use it.
And, since the iMazing app is for access to iPhones and iPads, it is not off 
topic, in my opinion.
But this topic is seemingly not going to go anywhere.
So, I'll leave it lie.




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On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:


Well, window-eyes will work in windows 10 but from what I've observed it seems 
to work real good in windows 7. I know there are quite a few window-eyes users 
that continue to use window-eyes in windows 10 and windows 7. It's definitely 
worth keeping around. and in certain situations it could actually make your 
computing experience a very good one. Since this is actually an iphone list, 
happy computing and happy iphoning.

Wayne


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: iMazing

Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you.
It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped 
development.
Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows 10.




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On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:

Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes, so 
that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience. We've 
observed over and over again, the big differences between screen readers and 
operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and nvda, our best 
computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we will see how 
it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and nvda. Hopefully 
there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just as soon as we 
experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen readers, we'll 
let you all know our experience here on the list.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and IMazing 
has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of which music 
is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed the steps of the 
online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music library on my 
iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music is off and I 
even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer from folder" 
option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but nothing shows on 
the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know if 
the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily 
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor 
under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a Windows 
7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help since 
we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon.
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. 

Re: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

[Jewel]

Dear Dave!  Be careful of what you write as some may not recognise that you 
were pulling the lower 
limb and may take your advice and be, bitterly, disappointed.
I recognised your words for what they were meant and enjoyed the harmless joke!

Jewel

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To: 
Subject: Re: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

If you don't reside in the UK. Then you won't qualify, to receive a guide
dog.

You could try amazon. They may have some left over from black friday, lol.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

Hello Karuna,
You cannot just buy a guide dog to take home. In fact, you cannot just buy a
guide dog period. I am going to guess that you are from India. You should
try applying to one of the guide dog training schools in the UK and/or
Australia. I have know idea if you would qualify for any of those schools
though.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
karuna Chopra
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 2:27 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

Sincere apologies, this mail is off-topic and not related to the iPhone.
I am visiting the United States next week, I want to take back with me a
trained guide dog for helping me move around. can anyone please suggest
where I could buy one? Your help in this Will be greatly appreciateWill be
greatly appreciated. You can email me directly at kar...@chopra.us

Thank you very much!

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Re: iMazing

[Arlene]

Well, window-eyes will work in windows 10 but from what I've observed it seems 
to work real good in windows 7. I know there are quite a few window-eyes users 
that continue to use window-eyes in windows 10 and windows 7. It's definitely 
worth keeping around. and in certain situations it could actually make your 
computing experience a very good one. Since this is actually an iphone list, 
happy computing and happy iphoning.

Wayne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:47 AM
  Subject: Re: iMazing


  Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you. 
  It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped 
development.
  Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows 10.







  Richard
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Wagner




On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:


Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes, 
so that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience. 
We've observed over and over again, the big differences between screen readers 
and operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and nvda, our best 
computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we will see how 
it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and nvda. Hopefully 
there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just as soon as we 
experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen readers, we'll 
let you all know our experience here on the list.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and 
IMazing has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of 
which music is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed the 
steps of the online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music 
library on my iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music is 
off and I even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer from 
folder" option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but nothing 
shows on the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know 
if the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily 
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor 
under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a Windows 
7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help 
since we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon.
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In away 
it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader friendly.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on 
how to use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using arrow 
keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving 

Dexcom G6 App Accessible?

[karuna Chopra]

Hi! Is anybody using a  Continuous Glucose Monitoring system? I was planning to 
get the Dexcom G6 and wanted to know before buying it whether the   Dexcom G6 
App Is Voice Over accessible? 
Even  if just the glucose readings are accessible it would be great! Any 
comments will be greatly appreciated!
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Re: rebooting iphone 7

[l . d . ethier23]

Yep, up volume, down volume and finally at list 10 secondes with power botton 
are until the apple appear s

Lyne

> Le 30 nov. 2019 à 17:27, Paul and Paula Jordan  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Hi all.  I have forgotten exactly how to reboot an IPhone 7.  I think you hit 
> the volume up button, then hold down the volume down and screen lock buttons 
> for 10 or so seconds.  Could someone please confirm or correct this 
> information.  Thanks as always for all your excellent help.
> God bless!
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Re: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

[Dave]

If you don't reside in the UK. Then you won't qualify, to receive a guide 
dog.


You could try amazon. They may have some left over from black friday, lol.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: terri...@gmail.com

Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

Hello Karuna,
You cannot just buy a guide dog to take home. In fact, you cannot just buy a 
guide dog period. I am going to guess that you are from India. You should 
try applying to one of the guide dog training schools in the UK and/or 
Australia. I have know idea if you would qualify for any of those schools 
though.

Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
karuna Chopra

Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 2:27 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

Sincere apologies, this mail is off-topic and not related to the iPhone.
I am visiting the United States next week, I want to take back with me a 
trained guide dog for helping me move around. can anyone please suggest 
where I could buy one? Your help in this Will be greatly appreciateWill be 
greatly appreciated. You can email me directly at kar...@chopra.us


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Re: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

[Dave]

Excuse me! Is this a joke. Or you totally Mad?

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: karuna Chopra

Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:27 PM
To: ViPhone
Subject: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

Sincere apologies, this mail is off-topic and not related to the iPhone.
I am visiting the United States next week, I want to take back with me a 
trained guide dog for helping me move around. can anyone please suggest 
where I could buy one? Your help in this Will be greatly appreciateWill be 
greatly appreciated. You can email me directly at kar...@chopra.us


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Re: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

[Richard Turner]

Here is a link to a Wikipedia article with a list of dog guide schools around 
the world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_guide_dog_schools?wprov=sfti1





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On Nov 30, 2019, at 1:42 PM, "terri...@gmail.com"  wrote:

Hello Karuna,
You cannot just buy a guide dog to take home. In fact, you cannot just buy a 
guide dog period. I am going to guess that you are from India. You should try 
applying to one of the guide dog training schools in the UK and/or Australia. I 
have know idea if you would qualify for any of those schools though.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

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Chopra
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 2:27 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

Sincere apologies, this mail is off-topic and not related to the iPhone.
I am visiting the United States next week, I want to take back with me a 
trained guide dog for helping me move around. can anyone please suggest where I 
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Water Minder App

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, does anyone here know if the water minder App is 
accessible?

If so, about how accessible might it be?


I believe you have to purchase this App. I want it. But I don't want to 
purchase it, if it is not accessible. I did look on Apple Vis to see if 
it had been reviewed. I couldn't find it there.


Any help is much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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google drive

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi.  If anyone is familiar with google drive I could use some help.  I need
to read some information using drive and my Focus 14 for church tomorrow,
and I can’t seem to get drive to back up to my phone.  The document shows up
on the computer, but does not show up on my phone.  When I do an insert f 11
to check when google updated it says updated one minute ago.  When I go to
drive on my phone it does not show the document and it shows the 12 items I
deleted from drive on the computer. 

 

I am running windows 10 and JAWS 20 20 on the computer and IOS 13.2.3 on an
IPhone 7 with the latest update to both drive and docs.  If anyone could
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Re: my gmail sorts all incoming msg by conversation thread, how to change back to date only

[Julie Dawson]

Can you sort gmail messages from newest to oldest? 
Thank you,
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  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:28 AM
  Subject: Re: my gmail sorts all incoming msg by conversation thread, how to 
change back to date only


  Hi Terri,


  Go into settings, mail and make sure that organizeby thread is off.


  Jenn  


  Jenn and Kumi
  TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!


On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:34 PM, terri...@gmail.com wrote:



Following an update, my gmail displays by conversation which I find 
annoying. Where to go to change it back to sorting by date only not by thread. 
I did not make this change myself or intentionally.

Best,

Terri Hedgpeth 


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rebooting iphone 7

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi all.  I have forgotten exactly how to reboot an IPhone 7.  I think you
hit the volume up button, then hold down the volume down and screen lock
buttons for 10 or so seconds.  Could someone please confirm or correct this
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rebooting an IPhone 7

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi everyone. Sorry for asking what has probably been answered many times,
but I  can’t find the info.  I want to fully reboot my IPhone 7.  I think
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RE: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

[territek]

Hello Karuna,
You cannot just buy a guide dog to take home. In fact, you cannot just buy a 
guide dog period. I am going to guess that you are from India. You should try 
applying to one of the guide dog training schools in the UK and/or Australia. I 
have know idea if you would qualify for any of those schools though.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth 

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Chopra
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 2:27 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Guide dog in United States-help me Please  

Sincere apologies, this mail is off-topic and not related to the iPhone.
I am visiting the United States next week, I want to take back with me a 
trained guide dog for helping me move around. can anyone please suggest where I 
could buy one? Your help in this Will be greatly appreciateWill be greatly 
appreciated. You can email me directly at kar...@chopra.us

Thank you very much! 

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Re: About trimming videos in the photos app

[Kathy Brandt]

Another thing is that on iOS 12, current position, where you could see the 
point where the video is at when playing, was spoken in those words by voice 
over with the number of where you are, whereas now, where current position used 
to be, it says what sounds like keyframe, which doesn’t do anything at least 
from a blind person‘s perspective, with no current position indicator. I did a 
screen share on iOS 12 and iOS 13 screens at the same time with two reps, which 
was sent to Apple. The one had me do a screen recording showing iOS 12. 

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, I double checked and the 10th of a second was not there on the end time.
> If you flick ten times, the second changes; so I guess a work around would be 
> to count your swipes; but lets hope they fix it.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: About trimming videos in the photos app
>  
> For me this was happening with my only test video which was one minute 57 
> seconds.
> 
> On Nov 30, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you find that a video that is less than 5 minutes works as expected?
> I have not attempted to do videos, but I was curious, so I shot a short video 
> and both the start and end announced the 10th of a second increments 
> correctly.
> This appears quite doable, so thanks for bringing it up and let's hope they 
> repair the longer videos editing.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> … A more exotic issue as compared to problems more immediately pressing to 
> most people, but in case of interest, I wanted to see what the differences 
> would be, since I gathered there had been changes in how to handle photos and 
> videos: I discovered that, for example, if you do raw footage in the camera 
> that’s five minutes, that if you start trimming, it works as before that you 
> see the increments of 0.1 seconds, 1.2 seconds, etc. but when you want to 
> trim the end, it doesn’t give you the minor increments, which can be 
> important, because you might want to end the video at 3.5 seconds instead of 
> at the four minute mark. What happens is that you are flicking down and not 
> hearing the increments until the rounded down time even though The Apple rep 
> during a screen share session was seeing the increments, whereas I was just 
> hearing the minute mark when constantly flicking, thinking that nothing was 
> happening, until it got to the next descending minute. The rep happen to have 
> an iPod with iOS 12, so he saw right away what was going on after not quite 
> getting it when we were doing the screen share, Since he was going from the 
> strictly cited perspective The issue is now reported as a bug. This all is of 
> interest to me because I trim and combine clips for putting into YouTube. I 
> combine in iMovie after getting out the bits I don’t want.
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Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

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Sincere apologies, this mail is off-topic and not related to the iPhone.
I am visiting the United States next week, I want to take back with me a 
trained guide dog for helping me move around. can anyone please suggest where I 
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Re: my gmail sorts all incoming msg by conversation thread, how to change back to date only

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Terri,

Go into settings, mail and make sure that organizeby thread is off.

Jenn  

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> On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:34 PM, terri...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Following an update, my gmail displays by conversation which I find annoying. 
> Where to go to change it back to sorting by date only not by thread. I did 
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RE: About trimming videos in the photos app

[Richard Turner]

Yes, I double checked and the 10th of a second was not there on the end time.
If you flick ten times, the second changes; so I guess a work around would be 
to count your swipes; but lets hope they fix it.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About trimming videos in the photos app

For me this was happening with my only test video which was one minute 57 
seconds.

On Nov 30, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Did you find that a video that is less than 5 minutes works as expected?
I have not attempted to do videos, but I was curious, so I shot a short video 
and both the start and end announced the 10th of a second increments correctly.
This appears quite doable, so thanks for bringing it up and let's hope they 
repair the longer videos editing.



Richard
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On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Kathy Brandt 
mailto:katya20...@gmail.com>> wrote:
… A more exotic issue as compared to problems more immediately pressing to 
most people, but in case of interest, I wanted to see what the differences 
would be, since I gathered there had been changes in how to handle photos and 
videos: I discovered that, for example, if you do raw footage in the camera 
that’s five minutes, that if you start trimming, it works as before that you 
see the increments of 0.1 seconds, 1.2 seconds, etc. but when you want to trim 
the end, it doesn’t give you the minor increments, which can be important, 
because you might want to end the video at 3.5 seconds instead of at the four 
minute mark. What happens is that you are flicking down and not hearing the 
increments until the rounded down time even though The Apple rep during a 
screen share session was seeing the increments, whereas I was just hearing the 
minute mark when constantly flicking, thinking that nothing was happening, 
until it got to the next descending minute. The rep happen to have an iPod with 
iOS 12, so he saw right away what was going on after not quite getting it when 
we were doing the screen share, Since he was going from the strictly cited 
perspective The issue is now reported as a bug. This all is of interest to me 
because I trim and combine clips for putting into YouTube. I combine in iMovie 
after getting out the bits I don’t want.

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Re: About trimming videos in the photos app

[Kathy Brandt]

For me this was happening with my only test video which was one minute 57 
seconds.

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you find that a video that is less than 5 minutes works as expected?
> I have not attempted to do videos, but I was curious, so I shot a short video 
> and both the start and end announced the 10th of a second increments 
> correctly.
> This appears quite doable, so thanks for bringing it up and let's hope they 
> repair the longer videos editing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> … A more exotic issue as compared to problems more immediately pressing to 
>> most people, but in case of interest, I wanted to see what the differences 
>> would be, since I gathered there had been changes in how to handle photos 
>> and videos: I discovered that, for example, if you do raw footage in the 
>> camera that’s five minutes, that if you start trimming, it works as before 
>> that you see the increments of 0.1 seconds, 1.2 seconds, etc. but when you 
>> want to trim the end, it doesn’t give you the minor increments, which can be 
>> important, because you might want to end the video at 3.5 seconds instead of 
>> at the four minute mark. What happens is that you are flicking down and not 
>> hearing the increments until the rounded down time even though The Apple rep 
>> during a screen share session was seeing the increments, whereas I was just 
>> hearing the minute mark when constantly flicking, thinking that nothing was 
>> happening, until it got to the next descending minute. The rep happen to 
>> have an iPod with iOS 12, so he saw right away what was going on after not 
>> quite getting it when we were doing the screen share, Since he was going 
>> from the strictly cited perspective The issue is now reported as a bug. This 
>> all is of interest to me because I trim and combine clips for putting into 
>> YouTube. I combine in iMovie after getting out the bits I don’t want.
>> 
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Re: About trimming videos in the photos app

[Richard Turner]

Did you find that a video that is less than 5 minutes works as expected?
I have not attempted to do videos, but I was curious, so I shot a short video 
and both the start and end announced the 10th of a second increments correctly.
This appears quite doable, so thanks for bringing it up and let's hope they 
repair the longer videos editing.




Richard
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On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

… A more exotic issue as compared to problems more immediately pressing to 
most people, but in case of interest, I wanted to see what the differences 
would be, since I gathered there had been changes in how to handle photos and 
videos: I discovered that, for example, if you do raw footage in the camera 
that’s five minutes, that if you start trimming, it works as before that you 
see the increments of 0.1 seconds, 1.2 seconds, etc. but when you want to trim 
the end, it doesn’t give you the minor increments, which can be important, 
because you might want to end the video at 3.5 seconds instead of at the four 
minute mark. What happens is that you are flicking down and not hearing the 
increments until the rounded down time even though The Apple rep during a 
screen share session was seeing the increments, whereas I was just hearing the 
minute mark when constantly flicking, thinking that nothing was happening, 
until it got to the next descending minute. The rep happen to have an iPod with 
iOS 12, so he saw right away what was going on after not quite getting it when 
we were doing the screen share, Since he was going from the strictly cited 
perspective The issue is now reported as a bug. This all is of interest to me 
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About trimming videos in the photos app

[Kathy Brandt]

… A more exotic issue as compared to problems more immediately pressing to most 
people, but in case of interest, I wanted to see what the differences would be, 
since I gathered there had been changes in how to handle photos and videos: I 
discovered that, for example, if you do raw footage in the camera that’s five 
minutes, that if you start trimming, it works as before that you see the 
increments of 0.1 seconds, 1.2 seconds, etc. but when you want to trim the end, 
it doesn’t give you the minor increments, which can be important, because you 
might want to end the video at 3.5 seconds instead of at the four minute mark. 
What happens is that you are flicking down and not hearing the increments until 
the rounded down time even though The Apple rep during a screen share session 
was seeing the increments, whereas I was just hearing the minute mark when 
constantly flicking, thinking that nothing was happening, until it got to the 
next descending minute. The rep happen to have an iPod with iOS 12, so he saw 
right away what was going on after not quite getting it when we were doing the 
screen share, Since he was going from the strictly cited perspective The issue 
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Re: Hi, how to efficiently switch between keyboards?

[Kathy Brandt]

That worked, Richard, thanks a lot! Thanks too, Mary. 

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:55 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Just in case, when you double tap and hold, it is a slide up, rather than a 
> swipe.
> If you break contact with the screen, which is what I think of as a swipe, 
> who knows what happens.
> But, if you just slide, you should find your Russian keyboard and then lift 
> to make it your current keyboard.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hi, how to efficiently switch between keyboards?
> 
> Previously I was just able to double tap on next keyboard and it would cycle 
> me through the different ones as I kept double tapping next keyboard. Now, 
> however, since switching to iOS 13, it seems to only go between English and 
> emoji, even though I have one other keyboard, my Russian one. Granted, I’m 
> not using it a lot, but would like to get to it as easily as before. If I 
> follow their suggestion by double tapping and holding, then swiping up, most 
> of the time it put me into settings. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Thanks. 
> I turned off slide to type, as I was not interested in that.
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Re: Hi, how to efficiently switch between keyboards?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Kathy,
I don’t have a direct answer for you, since I don’t have three keyboards in my 
rotation. I got rid of the emoji one along time ago and have no interest in it. 
So depending on which one you use more, if you find that you can’t get another 
way in, you can go into settings and get rid of the emoji one, and then you can 
easily switch from English to Russian.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> Previously I was just able to double tap on next keyboard and it would cycle 
> me through the different ones as I kept double tapping next keyboard. Now, 
> however, since switching to iOS 13, it seems to only go between English and 
> emoji, even though I have one other keyboard, my Russian one. Granted, I’m 
> not using it a lot, but would like to get to it as easily as before. If I 
> follow their suggestion by double tapping and holding, then swiping up, most 
> of the time it put me into settings. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Thanks. 
> I turned off slide to type, as I was not interested in that.
> 
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RE: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

[Richard Turner]

Yes, you no doubt have the latest version.
Try the triple tap with one finger and see if that changes anything at all.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

I uninstalled seeing AI, so on reinstall, I should have gotten the most 
up-to-date version of the app; it says in the App Store that the last update 
was a few months ago. It says that that update was for iOS 13. Seeing AI is 
among my share options. Thanks.

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Try a one finger double tap on the image and that should bring up the context 
> menu where you can pick share.
> If Seeing AI isn't in the list, double tap on the More button and see if 
> Process in Seeing AI comes up.
> I'm thinking though this may be something with iOS 13 that Microsoft will 
> have to address in an update.
> Have you updated Seeing AI?
> They had an update recently related to iOS 13.
> 
> But certainly report it and keep reporting it.
> I report it both to Seeing AI and Apple Accessibility.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem
> 
> Yes, I would say report it; I did! Maybe not the best example, but this is 
> what I wrote them in a follow up after writing you and them:
> 
> 
> After uninstalling and reinstalling the app, I discovered that if I send all 
> images to photos on my iOS device, and then share, the images will process, 
> but from the Mail app, on iOS 12 I could double tap and hold on the image, 
> and it would bring up various options, including recognize with Seeing AI. It 
> was so great how it would just process , after which I could double tap on 
> close and I would be popped back into my Mail app to process the next image. 
> However, like I said, double tapping and holding doesn’t immediately bring up 
> share options, so, I have to double tap on the image, double tap on share, 
> and then, once I start recognizing with Seeing AI, like I said, it just says 
> image processing , and the close or cancel buttons don’t work, meaning I have 
> to hit the home button, go to the app switcher, close out of mail, go back to 
> Mail, bring mail back up, and find the USPS message again. Please fix! 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Yes I have been having this problem off and on for months now sad to say. 
>> Guess it's time to report it to the Seeing AI folk again?
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Kathy Brandt
>> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem
>> 
>> I finally updated to iOS 13 yesterday. Today I tried sharing an image in the 
>> email from USPS informed delivery with seeing AI: I just got the continual 
>> message “processing“ and was unable to close or cancel without completely 
>> closing the mail app and reopening. Has anyone else experienced this or, 
>> what have you done? Thank you.
>> 
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RE: Hi, how to efficiently switch between keyboards?

[Richard Turner]

Just in case, when you double tap and hold, it is a slide up, rather than a 
swipe.
If you break contact with the screen, which is what I think of as a swipe, who 
knows what happens.
But, if you just slide, you should find your Russian keyboard and then lift to 
make it your current keyboard.

I hope that helps.
Richard


Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hi, how to efficiently switch between keyboards?

Previously I was just able to double tap on next keyboard and it would cycle me 
through the different ones as I kept double tapping next keyboard. Now, 
however, since switching to iOS 13, it seems to only go between English and 
emoji, even though I have one other keyboard, my Russian one. Granted, I’m not 
using it a lot, but would like to get to it as easily as before. If I follow 
their suggestion by double tapping and holding, then swiping up, most of the 
time it put me into settings. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Thanks. I turned 
off slide to type, as I was not interested in that.

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Re: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

[Kathy Brandt]

I uninstalled seeing AI, so on reinstall, I should have gotten the most 
up-to-date version of the app; it says in the App Store that the last update 
was a few months ago. It says that that update was for iOS 13. Seeing AI is 
among my share options. Thanks.

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Try a one finger double tap on the image and that should bring up the context 
> menu where you can pick share.
> If Seeing AI isn't in the list, double tap on the More button and see if 
> Process in Seeing AI comes up.
> I'm thinking though this may be something with iOS 13 that Microsoft will 
> have to address in an update.
> Have you updated Seeing AI?
> They had an update recently related to iOS 13.
> 
> But certainly report it and keep reporting it.
> I report it both to Seeing AI and Apple Accessibility.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem
> 
> Yes, I would say report it; I did! Maybe not the best example, but this is 
> what I wrote them in a follow up after writing you and them:
> 
> 
> After uninstalling and reinstalling the app, I discovered that if I send all 
> images to photos on my iOS device, and then share, the images will process, 
> but from the Mail app, on iOS 12 I could double tap and hold on the image, 
> and it would bring up various options, including recognize with Seeing AI. It 
> was so great how it would just process , after which I could double tap on 
> close and I would be popped back into my Mail app to process the next image. 
> However, like I said, double tapping and holding doesn’t immediately bring up 
> share options, so, I have to double tap on the image, double tap on share, 
> and then, once I start recognizing with Seeing AI, like I said, it just says 
> image processing , and the close or cancel buttons don’t work, meaning I have 
> to hit the home button, go to the app switcher, close out of mail, go back to 
> Mail, bring mail back up, and find the USPS message again. Please fix! 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Yes I have been having this problem off and on for months now sad to say. 
>> Guess it's time to report it to the Seeing AI folk again?
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Kathy Brandt
>> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem
>> 
>> I finally updated to iOS 13 yesterday. Today I tried sharing an image in the 
>> email from USPS informed delivery with seeing AI: I just got the continual 
>> message “processing“ and was unable to close or cancel without completely 
>> closing the mail app and reopening. Has anyone else experienced this or, 
>> what have you done? Thank you.
>> 
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Hi, how to efficiently switch between keyboards?

[Kathy Brandt]

Previously I was just able to double tap on next keyboard and it would cycle me 
through the different ones as I kept double tapping next keyboard. Now, 
however, since switching to iOS 13, it seems to only go between English and 
emoji, even though I have one other keyboard, my Russian one. Granted, I’m not 
using it a lot, but would like to get to it as easily as before. If I follow 
their suggestion by double tapping and holding, then swiping up, most of the 
time it put me into settings. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Thanks. I turned 
off slide to type, as I was not interested in that.

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RE: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

[Richard Turner]

Try a one finger double tap on the image and that should bring up the context 
menu where you can pick share.
If Seeing AI isn't in the list, double tap on the More button and see if 
Process in Seeing AI comes up.
I'm thinking though this may be something with iOS 13 that Microsoft will have 
to address in an update.
Have you updated Seeing AI?
They had an update recently related to iOS 13.

But certainly report it and keep reporting it.
I report it both to Seeing AI and Apple Accessibility.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

Yes, I would say report it; I did! Maybe not the best example, but this is what 
I wrote them in a follow up after writing you and them:


After uninstalling and reinstalling the app, I discovered that if I send all 
images to photos on my iOS device, and then share, the images will process, but 
from the Mail app, on iOS 12 I could double tap and hold on the image, and it 
would bring up various options, including recognize with Seeing AI. It was so 
great how it would just process , after which I could double tap on close and I 
would be popped back into my Mail app to process the next image. However, like 
I said, double tapping and holding doesn’t immediately bring up share options, 
so, I have to double tap on the image, double tap on share, and then, once I 
start recognizing with Seeing AI, like I said, it just says image processing , 
and the close or cancel buttons don’t work, meaning I have to hit the home 
button, go to the app switcher, close out of mail, go back to Mail, bring mail 
back up, and find the USPS message again. Please fix! 


> On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Yes I have been having this problem off and on for months now sad to say. 
> Guess it's time to report it to the Seeing AI folk again?
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem
> 
> I finally updated to iOS 13 yesterday. Today I tried sharing an image in the 
> email from USPS informed delivery with seeing AI: I just got the continual 
> message “processing“ and was unable to close or cancel without completely 
> closing the mail app and reopening. Has anyone else experienced this or, what 
> have you done? Thank you.
> 
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Re: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

[Kathy Brandt]

Yes, I would say report it; I did! Maybe not the best example, but this is what 
I wrote them in a follow up after writing you and them:


After uninstalling and reinstalling the app, I discovered that if I send all 
images to photos on my iOS device, and then share, the images will process, but 
from the Mail app, on iOS 12 I could double tap and hold on the image, and it 
would bring up various options, including recognize with Seeing AI. It was so 
great how it would just process , after which I could double tap on close and I 
would be popped back into my Mail app to process the next image. However, like 
I said, double tapping and holding doesn’t immediately bring up share options, 
so, I have to double tap on the image, double tap on share, and then, once I 
start recognizing with Seeing AI, like I said, it just says image processing , 
and the close or cancel buttons don’t work, meaning I have to hit the home 
button, go to the app switcher, close out of mail, go back to Mail, bring mail 
back up, and find the USPS message again. Please fix! 


> On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Yes I have been having this problem off and on for months now sad to say. 
> Guess it's time to report it to the Seeing AI folk again?
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem
> 
> I finally updated to iOS 13 yesterday. Today I tried sharing an image in the 
> email from USPS informed delivery with seeing AI: I just got the continual 
> message “processing“ and was unable to close or cancel without completely 
> closing the mail app and reopening. Has anyone else experienced this or, what 
> have you done? Thank you.
> 
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Re: iMazing

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I use mostly NVDA and sometimes hjaws on my windows7 computer.  If
this IMazing program will work, I'd like to use it.

On 11/30/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you.
> It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped
> development.
> Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows
> 10.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:
>
> Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes,
> so that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience.
> We've observed over and over again, the big differences between screen
> readers and operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and nvda,
> our best computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we
> will see how it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and
> nvda. Hopefully there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just
> as soon as we experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen
> readers, we'll let you all know our experience here on the list.
>
> Arlene and Wayne
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
> Subject: RE: iMazing
>
>
> Hello List
> I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and
> IMazing has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of
> which music is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed
> the steps of the online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music
> library on my iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music
> is off and I even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer
> from folder" option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but
> nothing shows on the iPhone.
>
> Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know
> if the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
> Regards
> Fanus
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iMazing
>
> The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily
> have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor
> under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a
> Windows 7 system.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iMazing
>
> I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.
>
> How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>  Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at:
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cffb1c97658a245ae3c9608d77551bd7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637106866233547536sdata=sxOMnkY9%2B1BcVtkeZ94WkM9kjeQPSswgBO0Rw3TT%2B6U%3Dreserved=0
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Arlene
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iMazing
>
> Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help
> since we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version
> soon.
> What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to
> help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to
> transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In
> away it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader
> friendly.
>
> Arlene
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Turner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
> Subject: RE: iMazing
>
>
> Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.
>
> It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how
> to use the bloody program.
> You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before
> deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using
> arrow keys or tabbing.
> Saying it works, is not useful.
> Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Richard
>
>  Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at:
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus
> 

Re: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes I have been having this problem off and on for months now sad to say. 
Guess it's time to report it to the Seeing AI folk again?

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kathy Brandt

Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

I finally updated to iOS 13 yesterday. Today I tried sharing an image in the 
email from USPS informed delivery with seeing AI: I just got the continual 
message “processing“ and was unable to close or cancel without completely 
closing the mail app and reopening. Has anyone else experienced this or, 
what have you done? Thank you.


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RE: iCloud music questions

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard
I actually hope it is not an automated process because then I can decide what 
to download at a particular time. Yes, when I am at home I also prefer to 
stream with Sonos. Its just when I visit the kids or somewhere else that I want 
some music on my phone.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2019 18:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iCloud music questions

Yes, if you connect to any WiFi you should be able to download your music, but 
please note that this as far as I know if not an automated process. Maybe Anna 
can give you better instructions since I haven't downloaded music to my phone 
in years. I have fiber internet both at home and at work and I'm in either 
place probably 98% of my time and even if I am away somewhere, as long as I am 
in Canada I have 6 Gb of data so if I want to listen to music I simply stream 
it via my Apple Music subscription, the same applies to Sonos, I have Sonos at 
work where we stream all day long for music at my store and at home my wife and 
I also stream pretty much anything. My wife does download more music so she has 
access to it when she goes to the Philippines, but since I prefer to listen to 
an audio book during a long flight I just can't be bothered.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 6:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud music questions

Hello Sieghard and Anna
Thanks for all your efforts to assist to get my pc music library on my new 
phone but for some reason I can not get it over, so now for two questions? I 
have changed the settings in iTunes on my pc and now it is loading the music to 
iCloud. Firstly, is there a storeage limit for music on iCloud? Secondly, if I 
go to a place, like my son's work place where they have uncapped data, am I 
correct that if I connect to their wifi network that I shall be able to 
download my music. I do have enough space on my iPhone 11 for my whole library.
Regards
Fanus


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RE: iCloud music questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, if you connect to any WiFi you should be able to download your music, but 
please note that this as far as I know if not an automated process. Maybe Anna 
can give you better instructions since I haven't downloaded music to my phone 
in years. I have fiber internet both at home and at work and I'm in either 
place probably 98% of my time and even if I am away somewhere, as long as I am 
in Canada I have 6 Gb of data so if I want to listen to music I simply stream 
it via my Apple Music subscription, the same applies to Sonos, I have Sonos at 
work where we stream all day long for music at my store and at home my wife and 
I also stream pretty much anything. My wife does download more music so she has 
access to it when she goes to the Philippines, but since I prefer to listen to 
an audio book during a long flight I just can't be bothered.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 6:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud music questions

Hello Sieghard and Anna
Thanks for all your efforts to assist to get my pc music library on my new 
phone but for some reason I can not get it over, so now for two questions? I 
have changed the settings in iTunes on my pc and now it is loading the music to 
iCloud. Firstly, is there a storeage limit for music on iCloud? Secondly, if I 
go to a place, like my son's work place where they have uncapped data, am I 
correct that if I connect to their wifi network that I shall be able to 
download my music. I do have enough space on my iPhone 11 for my whole library.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

[Julian]

Hi,

I'm experiencing the same thing as well. What I have to do is save the image to 
my photos and from the photos app then I shared to seeing AI, and vision AI, or 
any other app of my choice. The only one that will let you do it directly from 
the email at this point, his voice stream scanner.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> I finally updated to iOS 13 yesterday. Today I tried sharing an image in the 
> email from USPS informed delivery with seeing AI: I just got the continual 
> message “processing“ and was unable to close or cancel without completely 
> closing the mail app and reopening. Has anyone else experienced this or, what 
> have you done? Thank you.
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Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery problem

[Kathy Brandt]

I finally updated to iOS 13 yesterday. Today I tried sharing an image in the 
email from USPS informed delivery with seeing AI: I just got the continual 
message “processing“ and was unable to close or cancel without completely 
closing the mail app and reopening. Has anyone else experienced this or, what 
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Re: iMazing

[Richard Turner]

Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you.
It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped 
development.
Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows 10.




Richard
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On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene  wrote:

Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with window-eyes, so 
that's where the difference is with our experience and your experience. We've 
observed over and over again, the big differences between screen readers and 
operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and nvda, our best 
computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we will see how 
it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and nvda. Hopefully 
there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just as soon as we 
experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen readers, we'll 
let you all know our experience here on the list.

Arlene and Wayne


- Original Message - From: "Fanus Buys" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and IMazing 
has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of which music 
is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed the steps of the 
online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music library on my 
iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music is off and I 
even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer from folder" 
option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but nothing shows on 
the iPhone.

Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not know if 
the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you primarily 
have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws cursor 
under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a Windows 
7 system.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMazing

I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.

How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iMazing

Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can help since 
we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version soon.
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be able to 
help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need to 
transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In away 
it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader friendly.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing


Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.

It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips on how to 
use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version before 
deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using arrow 
keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.

Thanks,


Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
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Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:00 AM
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Subject: iMazing

Hello list
Is anyone using this successfully and if so, can I ask a few questions off list?
Regards
Fanus


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Re: Straight Talk on iPad

[TaraPrakash]

There are plenty of two in one tablet computers in the market which come with 
the keyboard which can be detached if it is not needed and the user prefers 
touch screen 
Jaws slows them down a bit but looks like microsoft narrator has improved a lot 
ever since the tablets with Microsoft windows were introduced 
 


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> On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And what's wrong with a small laptop instead of a tablet where you would in 
> all likelihood end up carrying an extra Bluetooth keyboard whether it's a 
> Windows tablet such as a Surface or an iPad.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
> Orozco
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 5:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Straight Talk on iPad
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> I’m looking for a tablet, something portable I can easily travel with.
> I’m leaning toward a Windows tablet, but honestly, that’s probably only 
> because I don’t feel as though I can be productive on iOS. I can use my phone 
> to interact with email, read RSS feeds, listen to podcasts, but in terms of 
> editing files, or even reading files, I feel behind the curve.
> 
> I use Dropbox. I fully accept I could be an idiot here, but I personally find 
> it hard to review files on iOS. I want the flexibility to jump by character, 
> word, or paragraph with the same ease I can do on a PC, but in iOS it feels 
> as though the text of the file is in a small area where navigation is not the 
> best experience. I’m picking on Dropbox, but honestly, I don’t find the 
> experience much better on any of the other editing apps, including Voice 
> Dream. Maybe I’m not finding the right one?
> 
> The same is true for editing files. I think with a good Bluetooth keyboard I 
> could make a go of it, but I don’t want to feel limited to plain text files. 
> I need the flexibility of Word documents I can later resume full editing on 
> my primary PC at home.
> 
> So, I want someone to help me understand how they do their work on an iPad. I 
> love the longevity of Apple products. I like the support. I like the form 
> factor I’ve been able to find with certain keyboard cases, but I’m also very 
> interested in producing, not just consuming.
> Again, I fully accept I might just not be looking at the right tools.
> So, that’s where you come in.
> 
> Any thoughts? Ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Joe
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iCloud music questions

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard and Anna
Thanks for all your efforts to assist to get my pc music library on my new
phone but for some reason I can not get it over, so now for two questions? I
have changed the settings in iTunes on my pc and now it is loading the music
to iCloud. Firstly, is there a storeage limit for music on iCloud? Secondly,
if I go to a place, like my son's work place where they have uncapped data,
am I correct that if I connect to their wifi network that I shall be able to
download my music. I do have enough space on my iPhone 11 for my whole
library.
Regards
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