RE: Missing contacts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I wonder if it matters where you save them. I use Outlook.com for my personal 
account and Exchange via Office 365 for my business account and my contacts 
sync to my phone from these services. I have over 300 for each my personal and 
business accounts and I have never had problems with contacts disappearing.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Missing contacts

Hi, Jim,

I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that you're 
only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have told me that 
they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done button after I 
add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the model has anything 
to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in the phone.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+


On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:

Hi there,
I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it just 
showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to him.
Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a little 
while later, it wasn’t there.
Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not his 
name or anything.
Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.
Kind of weird!
Any idea what’s going on?
Jim

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RE: Missing contacts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I never have only numbers show in the Messages app as long as the contact is in 
my contacts. What I have seen is that if I get a message from somebody who is 
not in my contacts and I add them from the messages app that it still shows the 
number after I added them. So far rebooting the phone has fixed this for me 
every time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing contacts

Yes, messages seem to sometimes decide to just show numbers.
I have no idea why.
Most of the time, I get names; but only Apple knows why it doesn’t show the 
name sometimes.

As for entering them and then they are not there, I’m with Diane, maybe you 
missed the done button?
I’ve never entered a contact and had it go missing in the 10 plus years I’ve 
used Apple devices.

I am not sure Siri knows the nick names from the contacts without you telling 
it once.
I do know that Siri has no idea that there is a company field in the contacts.
So, don’t ever put a name in the company field and expect Siri to call it.
I use the last name field for that.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
portillo@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Missing contacts

Hi there,
I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it just 
showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to him.
Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a little 
while later, it wasn’t there.
Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not his 
name or anything.
Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.
Kind of weird!
Any idea what’s going on?
Jim

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Re: OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone

[Richard Turner]

It's what shows up when you activate the share button.
Like when you are on a web site and you double tap the share button at the 
bottom of the screen on an iPhone and you can email the link, text it, copy it 
and so on.




Richard


> On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:56 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Richard, what is the "share sheet"?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone
> 
> Voice Dream Scanner, $5.99 for the iPhone version.
> The only limitation, which the developer is working on, is that columns do 
> not scan well.
> But, you will not find a better OCR app.
> It is fast, accurate, and you can save as accessible PDF, so the visual 
> appearance is there, but the text is also accessible.
> And if you also have Voice Dream Reader, it makes extracting text from an 
> image PDF really slick, but even without being a Voice Dream Reader user, 
> Scanner will show up in the share sheet, so it can be used to extract text 
> from an image PDF.
> For quick and dirty scans without saving, Seeing AI is good.
> O, and Voice Dream Scanner can save multiple pages into one document.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Sent from the iPhone SE 2020
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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>> Hi listers,
>> 
>> Just upgraded to Catalina and I’ve lost my accessible Fine Reader software. 
>> Can you recommend something for either the Mac or iphone that will extract 
>> text to plain text or MS Word that is voice over friendly and doesn’t cost 
>> the earth.
>> 
>> I will be doing it a lot due to needing it for my degree.
>> 
>> Many thanks in advance
>> Ian
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RE: OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone

[kitty hevener]

Richard, what is the "share sheet"?

-Original Message-
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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone

Voice Dream Scanner, $5.99 for the iPhone version.
The only limitation, which the developer is working on, is that columns do not 
scan well.
But, you will not find a better OCR app.
It is fast, accurate, and you can save as accessible PDF, so the visual 
appearance is there, but the text is also accessible.
And if you also have Voice Dream Reader, it makes extracting text from an image 
PDF really slick, but even without being a Voice Dream Reader user, Scanner 
will show up in the share sheet, so it can be used to extract text from an 
image PDF.
For quick and dirty scans without saving, Seeing AI is good.
O, and Voice Dream Scanner can save multiple pages into one document.




Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> Just upgraded to Catalina and I’ve lost my accessible Fine Reader software. 
> Can you recommend something for either the Mac or iphone that will extract 
> text to plain text or MS Word that is voice over friendly and doesn’t cost 
> the earth.
> 
> I will be doing it a lot due to needing it for my degree.
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> Ian
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RE: Missing contacts

[portillo.jim]

I did that and unfortunately it didn’t work.  Thankfully, they’re not many, so 
I’ll just re-add them, I guess.

Jim

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Missing contacts

 

wow, that's amazing! Thank you for that tip I will try it. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+





On Apr 25, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Denver A Jones, DD mailto:blind.guida...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I currently have nearly 1200 contact in my phone. Many of which I talk to on a 
regular basis. I have experienced this problem in the past with my iPhone. 
However, it is quickly resolved. What I have done, is to go into groups and 
hide all contacts and then show all contacts and the problem resolves it self. 
At least that is how it works for me.

 

 

 

 

 

Denver A. Jones, D.D.





On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Esther mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

Hi, Jim,

 

I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that you're 
only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have told me that 
they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done button after I 
add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the model has anything 
to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in the phone.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+





On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi there,

I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.

A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it just 
showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to him.  

Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a little 
while later, it wasn’t there.

Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not his 
name or anything.

Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.  

Kind of weird!

Any idea what’s going on?

Jim

 

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Re: Missing contacts

[Esther]

I did not get that impression at all. I do appreciate everyone's suggestions, 
however. If I don't have luck I will then call Apple accessibility. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 6:20 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  I hope no one thought I or anyone else was suggesting those of you having 
> this issue didn't know what you were doing.
> Just trying to help trouble shoot.
> My last question is have any of you experiencing this talked with Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Sent from the iPhone SE 2020
> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
>>> 
>>  I do have a problem with contacts disappearing. I’ve had an iPhone since 
>> 2012 and so I think I know how to add contacts either manually or from a 
>> call or text that I receive, however it seems that sometimes when I do this, 
>> especially since the advent of iOS 13 my contacts seem to be disappearing at 
>> random intervals.
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
>> go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have around 400 contacts and have had nearly 900 when a stupid Outlook 
>>> issue on my computer added everyone I ever emailed to contacts.  That 
>>> apparently is a feature of Outlook to some.  Once I got that feature/pain 
>>> turned off and cleaned up the contacts, it has worked fine.
>>>  
>>> I’d highly recommend talking with Apple and having them run a diagnostic.
>>> If you are hitting done and they disappear, something is truly not right.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
>>> Oregon.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Esther
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:21 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Missing contacts
>>>  
>>> Hi, Jim,
>>>  
>>> I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that 
>>> you're only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have 
>>> told me that they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done 
>>> button after I add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the 
>>> model has anything to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in 
>>> the phone.
>>>  
>>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
>>> A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to 
>>> my contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but 
>>> it just showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed 
>>> to him. 
>>> Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a 
>>> little while later, it wasn’t there.
>>> Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to 
>>> my contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but 
>>> not his name or anything.
>>> Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
>>> name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a 
>>> nickname. 
>>> Kind of weird!
>>> Any idea what’s going on?
>>> Jim
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Re: Missing contacts

[Esther]

wow, that's amazing! Thank you for that tip I will try it. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Denver A Jones, DD  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I currently have nearly 1200 contact in my phone. Many of which I talk to on 
> a regular basis. I have experienced this problem in the past with my iPhone. 
> However, it is quickly resolved. What I have done, is to go into groups and 
> hide all contacts and then show all contacts and the problem resolves it 
> self. At least that is how it works for me.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Denver A. Jones, D.D.
> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi, Jim,
>> 
>> I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that 
>> you're only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have 
>> told me that they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done 
>> button after I add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the 
>> model has anything to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in 
>> the phone.
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
>> 
 On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
>>> A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to 
>>> my contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but 
>>> it just showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed 
>>> to him. 
>>> Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a 
>>> little while later, it wasn’t there.
>>> Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to 
>>> my contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but 
>>> not his name or anything.
>>> Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
>>> name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a 
>>> nickname. 
>>> Kind of weird!
>>> Any idea what’s going on?
>>> Jim
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RE: Missing contacts

[portillo.jim]

I certainly will, Richard.  I just wanted to exhaust some resources before 
doing that and see if any of you had experienced anything similar.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Missing contacts

 

I hope no one thought I or anyone else was suggesting those of you having this 
issue didn't know what you were doing. 

Just trying to help trouble shoot.

My last question is have any of you experiencing this talked with Apple?

 

 

 

Richard

 

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020





On Apr 25, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Kimberly mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 I do have a problem with contacts disappearing. I’ve had an iPhone since 2012 
and so I think I know how to add contacts either manually or from a call or 
text that I receive, however it seems that sometimes when I do this, especially 
since the advent of iOS 13 my contacts seem to be disappearing at random 
intervals.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone 

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx





On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I have around 400 contacts and have had nearly 900 when a stupid Outlook issue 
on my computer added everyone I ever emailed to contacts.  That apparently is a 
feature of Outlook to some.  Once I got that feature/pain turned off and 
cleaned up the contacts, it has worked fine.

 

I’d highly recommend talking with Apple and having them run a diagnostic.

If you are hitting done and they disappear, something is truly not right.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Missing contacts

 

Hi, Jim,

 

I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that you're 
only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have told me that 
they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done button after I 
add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the model has anything 
to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in the phone.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+






On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi there,

I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.

A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it just 
showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to him.  

Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a little 
while later, it wasn’t there.

Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not his 
name or anything.

Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.  

Kind of weird!

Any idea what’s going on?

Jim

 

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RE: Missing contacts

[portillo.jim]

Right.  I looked at all of that, but they were there before, including the 
nicnnames, which Siri had once programmed.

Anyway, thanks much for your help, as always.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing contacts

 

Yes, messages seem to sometimes decide to just show numbers.

I have no idea why.

Most of the time, I get names; but only Apple knows why it doesn’t show the 
name sometimes.

 

As for entering them and then they are not there, I’m with Diane, maybe you 
missed the done button?

I’ve never entered a contact and had it go missing in the 10 plus years I’ve 
used Apple devices.

 

I am not sure Siri knows the nick names from the contacts without you telling 
it once.

I do know that Siri has no idea that there is a company field in the contacts.

So, don’t ever put a name in the company field and expect Siri to call it.

I use the last name field for that.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
portillo@gmail.com  
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Missing contacts

 

Hi there,

I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.

A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it just 
showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to him.  

Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a little 
while later, it wasn’t there.

Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not his 
name or anything.

Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.  

Kind of weird!

Any idea what’s going on?

Jim

 

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RE: Missing contacts

[portillo.jim]

Oh yes.  As I said, some were there for a while and then suddenly weren’t.  So, 
they were always saved.

Just today, I was deleting old phone calls from my Recent calls area, and I 
found two calls from relatives that I’d recently added.  They were certainly 
there last week, and now, they weren’t, and the phone numbers were the only 
things showing.

Weird stuff.

I re-added some, but we’ll see what happens.

Jim

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Missing contacts

 

Jim, I’m just wondering, by any chance, have you forgotten to hit done when you 
have finished? If so that definitely would explain it.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!





On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi there,

I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.

A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it just 
showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to him.  

Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a little 
while later, it wasn’t there.

Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not his 
name or anything.

Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.  

Kind of weird!

Any idea what’s going on?

Jim

 

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Re: Apple just announced one of its biggest regional expansions for the App Store ever | Ars Technica

[Richard Turner]

The article lists them all but I did not read the entire list.




Richard

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> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Fazil  wrote:
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> Does it include Pakistan?
> 
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> That's pretty interesting where they are bringing in these services,
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> Pretty much covering the world with music and papstore 
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RE: Apple just announced one of its biggest regional expansions for the App Store ever | Ars Technica

[Fazil]

Does it include Pakistan?

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the App Store ever | Ars Technica

That's pretty interesting where they are bringing in these services,

Pretty much covering the world with music and papstore 

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Subject: Apple just announced one of its biggest regional expansions for the 
App Store ever | Ars Technica

I just received this via Google Alerts. For those in countries where some Apple 
services have not been available, take time to read the article.

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RE: Apple just announced one of its biggest regional expansions for the App Store ever | Ars Technica

[Simon A Fogarty]

That's pretty interesting where they are bringing in these services,

Pretty much covering the world with music and papstore 

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I just received this via Google Alerts. For those in countries where some Apple 
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Re: Missing contacts

[Denver A Jones, DD]

I currently have nearly 1200 contact in my phone. Many of which I talk to on a 
regular basis. I have experienced this problem in the past with my iPhone. 
However, it is quickly resolved. What I have done, is to go into groups and 
hide all contacts and then show all contacts and the problem resolves it self. 
At least that is how it works for me.






Denver A. Jones, D.D.

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Jim,
> 
> I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that 
> you're only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have 
> told me that they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done 
> button after I add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the 
> model has anything to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in 
> the phone.
> 
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
>> A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
>> contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it 
>> just showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to 
>> him. 
>> Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a 
>> little while later, it wasn’t there.
>> Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
>> contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not 
>> his name or anything.
>> Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
>> name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname. 
>> Kind of weird!
>> Any idea what’s going on?
>> Jim
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Re: Missing contacts

[Richard Turner]

I hope no one thought I or anyone else was suggesting those of you having this 
issue didn't know what you were doing.
Just trying to help trouble shoot.
My last question is have any of you experiencing this talked with Apple?




Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

On Apr 25, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Kimberly  wrote:

 I do have a problem with contacts disappearing. I’ve had an iPhone since 2012 
and so I think I know how to add contacts either manually or from a call or 
text that I receive, however it seems that sometimes when I do this, especially 
since the advent of iOS 13 my contacts seem to be disappearing at random 
intervals.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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on.—Annie Proulx

On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I have around 400 contacts and have had nearly 900 when a stupid Outlook issue 
on my computer added everyone I ever emailed to contacts.  That apparently is a 
feature of Outlook to some.  Once I got that feature/pain turned off and 
cleaned up the contacts, it has worked fine.

I’d highly recommend talking with Apple and having them run a diagnostic.
If you are hitting done and they disappear, something is truly not right.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Missing contacts

Hi, Jim,

I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that you're 
only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have told me that 
they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done button after I 
add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the model has anything 
to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in the phone.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+


On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, 
portillo@gmail.com wrote:

Hi there,
I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it just 
showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to him.
Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a little 
while later, it wasn’t there.
Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not his 
name or anything.
Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.
Kind of weird!
Any idea what’s going on?
Jim

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Re: Missing contacts

[Diane Giannetti]

When I sent my message and saying perhaps you forgot to hit done, I certainly 
was not implying that one does not know how to use an iPhone. So if Kimberly, 
hope you didn’t take it that way as that was not my intentions. I was just 
throwing out an idea that possibly could happen.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> I do have a problem with contacts disappearing. I’ve had an iPhone since 
> 2012 and so I think I know how to add contacts either manually or from a call 
> or text that I receive, however it seems that sometimes when I do this, 
> especially since the advent of iOS 13 my contacts seem to be disappearing at 
> random intervals.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
> go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I have around 400 contacts and have had nearly 900 when a stupid Outlook 
>> issue on my computer added everyone I ever emailed to contacts.  That 
>> apparently is a feature of Outlook to some.  Once I got that feature/pain 
>> turned off and cleaned up the contacts, it has worked fine.
>>  
>> I’d highly recommend talking with Apple and having them run a diagnostic.
>> If you are hitting done and they disappear, something is truly not right.
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Missing contacts
>>  
>> Hi, Jim,
>>  
>> I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that 
>> you're only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have 
>> told me that they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done 
>> button after I add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the 
>> model has anything to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in 
>> the phone.
>>  
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
>>  
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
>> A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
>> contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it 
>> just showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to 
>> him. 
>> Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a 
>> little while later, it wasn’t there.
>> Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
>> contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not 
>> his name or anything.
>> Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
>> name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname. 
>> Kind of weird!
>> Any idea what’s going on?
>> Jim
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Re: Missing contacts

[Kimberly]

I do have a problem with contacts disappearing. I’ve had an iPhone since 2012 
and so I think I know how to add contacts either manually or from a call or 
text that I receive, however it seems that sometimes when I do this, especially 
since the advent of iOS 13 my contacts seem to be disappearing at random 
intervals.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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on.—Annie Proulx

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have around 400 contacts and have had nearly 900 when a stupid Outlook 
> issue on my computer added everyone I ever emailed to contacts.  That 
> apparently is a feature of Outlook to some.  Once I got that feature/pain 
> turned off and cleaned up the contacts, it has worked fine.
>  
> I’d highly recommend talking with Apple and having them run a diagnostic.
> If you are hitting done and they disappear, something is truly not right.
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Missing contacts
>  
> Hi, Jim,
>  
> I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that 
> you're only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have 
> told me that they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done 
> button after I add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the 
> model has anything to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in 
> the phone.
>  
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
>  
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
> A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
> contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it 
> just showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to 
> him. 
> Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a 
> little while later, it wasn’t there.
> Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
> contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not 
> his name or anything.
> Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
> name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname. 
> Kind of weird!
> Any idea what’s going on?
> Jim
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One more thing about transferring to a new phone

[Richard Turner]

I noticed today that none of the apps that I had been testing through 
TestFlight showed up on my phone.
Easy to redownload through TestFlight.
Just wanted folks to be aware.



Richard
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RE: Missing contacts

[Richard Turner]

I have around 400 contacts and have had nearly 900 when a stupid Outlook issue 
on my computer added everyone I ever emailed to contacts.  That apparently is a 
feature of Outlook to some.  Once I got that feature/pain turned off and 
cleaned up the contacts, it has worked fine.

I’d highly recommend talking with Apple and having them run a diagnostic.
If you are hitting done and they disappear, something is truly not right.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Missing contacts

Hi, Jim,

I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that you're 
only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have told me that 
they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done button after I 
add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the model has anything 
to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in the phone.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+


On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, 
portillo@gmail.com wrote:

Hi there,
I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it just 
showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to him.
Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a little 
while later, it wasn’t there.
Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not his 
name or anything.
Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.
Kind of weird!
Any idea what’s going on?
Jim

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Re: Missing contacts

[Esther]

Hi, Jim,

I also have difficulty with contacts disappearing.  Someone told me that you're 
only supposed to put 100 contacts in your phone, while others have told me that 
they have a lot more than 100.  I always hit the Save or Done button after I 
add new contacts.  My iPhone is a 7+ and I don't know if the model has anything 
to do with this, or if it is just some kind of fluke in the phone.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
> A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
> contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it 
> just showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to 
> him. 
> Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a 
> little while later, it wasn’t there.
> Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
> contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not 
> his name or anything.
> Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
> name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname. 
> Kind of weird!
> Any idea what’s going on?
> Jim
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RE: Missing contacts

[Richard Turner]

Yes, messages seem to sometimes decide to just show numbers.
I have no idea why.
Most of the time, I get names; but only Apple knows why it doesn’t show the 
name sometimes.

As for entering them and then they are not there, I’m with Diane, maybe you 
missed the done button?
I’ve never entered a contact and had it go missing in the 10 plus years I’ve 
used Apple devices.

I am not sure Siri knows the nick names from the contacts without you telling 
it once.
I do know that Siri has no idea that there is a company field in the contacts.
So, don’t ever put a name in the company field and expect Siri to call it.
I use the last name field for that.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Missing contacts

Hi there,
I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it just 
showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to him.
Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a little 
while later, it wasn’t there.
Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not his 
name or anything.
Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.
Kind of weird!
Any idea what’s going on?
Jim

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Re: Missing contacts

[Diane Giannetti]

Jim, I’m just wondering, by any chance, have you forgotten to hit done when you 
have finished? If so that definitely would explain it.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> I’m wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.
> A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my 
> contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it 
> just showed the person’s number without the name or contact attributed to 
> him. 
> Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a 
> little while later, it wasn’t there.
> Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my 
> contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not 
> his name or anything.
> Oh, when  told Siri to call “Mom”, she just asked, “What is your mother’s 
> name?”  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname. 
> Kind of weird!
> Any idea what’s going on?
> Jim
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Missing contacts

[portillo.jim]

Hi there,

I'm wondering if anyone has noticed something odd with the Contacts app.

A few weeks ago, I added a few people, numbers, and/or email addresses to my
contacts app.  A while later, I noticed that someone had texted me, but it
just showed the person's number without the name or contact attributed to
him.  

Another time, I added a contact, and when I tried looking for it again a
little while later, it wasn't there.

Finally, yesterday a friend called, and I was positive I had added him to my
contacts about a month ago.  Same deal.  It showed his phone number but not
his name or anything.

Oh, when  told Siri to call "Mom", she just asked, "What is your mother's
name?"  I have her as a contact listing her full name and Mom as a nickname.


Kind of weird!

Any idea what's going on?

Jim

 

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RE: V iPhone and Mac Visionaries List Members: Let's Talk Via Zoom, on Sunday, April 26, 2020

[Alan Lemly]

I agree with Duane that having the Zoom meeting ID more than 15 minutes before 
the meeting starts encourages a greater attendance. It is also much easier to 
schedule attendance with all the necessary info so that email doesn't have to 
be checked constantly just before the meeting starts.

Alan Lemly 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Duane Steele
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: V iPhone and Mac Visionaries List Members: Let's Talk Via Zoom, on 
Sunday, April 26, 2020

Greetings,

I hope you won t mind this simple suggestion from a list member who has used 
Zoom for a long time.  If you have already scheduled the meeting, it would be 
good for list members to see the invitation a couple of times in advance of the 
actual meeting.  For example, I ll be on a Zoom meeting tonight with alumni 
from the school I attended.  The invitation went out last night, and will be 
reposted today.  Only seeing the invitation a short time before any  event 
doesn t give some adequate time to prepare to attend.  Just a thought.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 12:17 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> ?Hello Everyone,
> 
> So, it is my plan to host a Zoom meeting for all of the members of the 
> V iPhone and Mac Visionaries communities tomorrow, Sunday April 26.
> 
> As promised, I am posting this notification early so those who wish to 
> attend may do so.
> 
> It is my plan to start the meeting at 2p, California local time.  As I 
> say, it is my plan but, things can change so if the meeting gets 
> cancelled or has to be postponed, I will post an update notice here.
> 
> My thoughts are that we will take Apple-related questions from members 
> but I always welcome blindness-related accessibility questions / 
> comments, as well.
> 
> I will send the meeting invitation, with login instructions, to the 
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Re: V iPhone and Mac Visionaries List Members: Let's Talk Via Zoom, on Sunday, April 26, 2020

[Duane Steele]

Greetings,

I hope you won’t mind this simple suggestion from a list member who has used 
Zoom for a long time.  If you have already scheduled the meeting, it would be 
good for list members to see the invitation a couple of times in advance of the 
actual meeting.  For example, I’ll be on a Zoom meeting tonight with alumni 
from the school I attended.  The invitation went out last night, and will be 
reposted today.  Only seeing the invitation a short time before any  event 
doesn’t give some adequate time to prepare to attend.  Just a thought.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 12:17 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> So, it is my plan to host a Zoom meeting for all of the members of the V
> iPhone and Mac Visionaries communities tomorrow, Sunday April 26.  
> 
> As promised, I am posting this notification early so those who wish to
> attend may do so.
> 
> It is my plan to start the meeting at 2p, California local time.  As I say,
> it is my plan but, things can change so if the meeting gets cancelled or has
> to be postponed, I will post an update notice here.
> 
> My thoughts are that we will take Apple-related questions from members but I
> always welcome blindness-related accessibility questions / comments, as
> well.  
> 
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> 
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Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

[Richard Turner]

Mike, I can confirm that my new SE expands the keyboard when landscaped in 
iMessages.
HTH,




Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:23 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Mike,
I just had a thought.  Do you have a extra large font set?
I just use the standard font and know that in some cases, larger fonts changes 
VO behavior.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

I just tried typing a text message and the orientation doesn't change, which is 
okay.  We'll see how the new SE's respond when y'all get them.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:58 AM
Subject: RE: New SE iPhone Keyboard

I was in Email when I tested it and I’m running iOS 13.4.1, so that may be the 
difference.
Of course, there seems to always be some app outliers that don’t widen when 
landscaped.
Not sure why that is.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

>From what I understand the old SE didn't widen in all apps, only in certain 
>ones.  But, all ican say is either our phones are weird, or there's something 
>wrong with them because at last check they didn't widen and orientation was 
>unlocked.  I haven't checked since probably around iOS 10, so hopefully or 
>maybe updates have changed this.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: New SE iPhone Keyboard

Mike,
I just unlocked orientation on my old SE, and the keyboard widen in landscape 
just like all iPhones.
I usually keep the orientation locked, but after testing, I think you had 
misinformation.
I should be able to confirm on the new SE after it arrives tomorrow.
Later,
ichard


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mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

On the old SE iphone the keyboard would stay the same whether you had the phone 
in landscape or portrait mode.  Can anyone tell me if this new SE will widen 
the keyboard when switching from portrait to landscape mode like other iPhone 
models?  Thanks much.

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Re: iPhone SE 2020 and battery

[Dave]

Hi, The iPhone 8 case is fine, for the new SE.

I was told by apple, and if you look on amazon, for a case for the iPhone SE 
2020. You will find they also cover the new SE, iPhone 8, and the iPhone 7.

Dave.


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE 2020 and battery

Well, since the regular cases for the 8 are listed as working on the new SE, I 
would assume so, but you know what happens when you assume, grin. 





Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020


  On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Robin  wrote:


   Hope this is ON Topic: For ThisThread

  Does Apple offer  its BatteryChargerCase for its NEW  SE 2020 (iPhoneSE 
2020)? I Presume
  the SmartBattery MobilePhone case for Apple's iPhone8 will Fit  it, am I  
Right-Correct with MyThinkin???

  Blessin's to All!
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  Enjoy YourPurchase
  At 08:03 AM 4/25/2020, you wrote:

Since Gordan asked about battery life with the new phone I thought I’d 
start a separate thread.
 
Well, normally I would have thought the battery would run out very quickly 
for the first couple of days.
Last night, after getting through the bulk of the set up, I unplugged it at 
100% and hit the power button to lock it.
That was about 9:30.
I woke up too early, but at 4:30 AM, it was still at 100%.
I’ve used it on and off for the last 3 and a half hours, comparing the 
sound, checking Email; trying to problem solve an issue with Voice Dream 
Reader, resetting network settings as part of that, and right now it is showing 
84%.
I’ll keep tabs on it for a couple days, but my first impression is that the 
battery life will be very good.
 
 
 
Richard
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Oregon.
 
 

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Re: iPhone SE 2020 and battery

[Robin]

Yeah, IKnow WhatHappens when YouAssume, That's 
"why" I  didn't "assume", as  "I  Presumed"

as
Assumin' makes you a  ...

Blessin's to All!

At 09:54 AM 4/25/2020, you wrote:
Well, since the regular cases for the 8 are 
listed as working on the new SE, I would assume 
so, but you know what happens when you assume, grin.





Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020


On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Robin  wrote:

 Hope this is ON Topic: For ThisThread

Does Apple offer  its BatteryChargerCase for 
its NEW  SE 2020 (iPhoneSE 2020)? I Presume
the SmartBattery MobilePhone case for Apple's 
iPhone8 will Fit  it, am I  Right-Correct with MyThinkin???


Blessin's to All!
&
Enjoy YourPurchase
At 08:03 AM 4/25/2020, you wrote:
Since Gordan asked about battery life with the 
new phone I thought I’d start a separate thread.


Well, normally I would have thought the 
battery would run out very quickly for the first couple of days.
Last night, after getting through the bulk of 
the set up, I unplugged it at 100% and hit the power button to lock it.

That was about 9:30.
I woke up too early, but at 4:30 AM, it was still at 100%.
I’ve used it on and off for the last 3 and a 
half hours, comparing the sound, checking 
Email; trying to problem solve an issue with 
Voice Dream Reader, resetting network settings 
as part of that, and right now it is showing 84%.
I’ll keep tabs on it for a couple days, but 
my first impression is that the battery life will be very good.




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Apple just announced one of its biggest regional expansions for the App Store ever | Ars Technica

[Richard Turner]

I just received this via Google Alerts. For those in countries where some Apple 
services have not been available, take time to read the article.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/apple-expands-music-the-app-store-and-other-services-to-20-more-countries/




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Re: OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone

[Richard Turner]

> That's what I meant when I said Scanner will show up in the share sheet, so 
> it can be used to extract text from an image PDF.

>  
I've always opened the PDF, then used the share button to get there.
I've not explored grabbing it from somewhere directly.
The developer, Winston Chen, is usually very responsive. You could write him 
directly at wins...@voicedream.com
If you are in the US, do you have a Bookshare account?
They are getting more and more text books, and as a student you can get a free 
account.
Voice Dream Reader is a fabulous app from which you can access the Bookshare 
library directly.
It's worth checking out.
www.bookshare.org



Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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>> Scanner will show up in the share sheet, so it can be used to extract text 
>> from an image PDF.

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Re: iPhone SE 2020 and battery

[Richard Turner]

Well, since the regular cases for the 8 are listed as working on the new SE, I 
would assume so, but you know what happens when you assume, grin.




Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Robin  wrote:

 Hope this is ON Topic: For ThisThread

Does Apple offer  its BatteryChargerCase for its NEW  SE 2020 (iPhoneSE 2020)? 
I Presume
the SmartBattery MobilePhone case for Apple's iPhone8 will Fit  it, am I  
Right-Correct with MyThinkin???

Blessin's to All!
&
Enjoy YourPurchase
At 08:03 AM 4/25/2020, you wrote:
Since Gordan asked about battery life with the new phone I thought I’d start a 
separate thread.

Well, normally I would have thought the battery would run out very quickly for 
the first couple of days.
Last night, after getting through the bulk of the set up, I unplugged it at 
100% and hit the power button to lock it.
That was about 9:30.
I woke up too early, but at 4:30 AM, it was still at 100%.
I’ve used it on and off for the last 3 and a half hours, comparing the sound, 
checking Email; trying to problem solve an issue with Voice Dream Reader, 
resetting network settings as part of that, and right now it is showing 84%.
I’ll keep tabs on it for a couple days, but my first impression is that the 
battery life will be very good.



Richard
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Re: V iPhone and Mac Visionaries List Members: Let's Talk Via Zoom, on Sunday, April 26, 2020

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I'm also looking forward to coming to the call.

On 4/25/20, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:
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> Dacia
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> has
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>> I
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Re: V iPhone and Mac Visionaries List Members: Let's Talk Via Zoom, on Sunday, April 26, 2020

[dacia . luck]

Looking forward to joining this call. Thanks for being willing to put it on.
Dacia

Sent from my iPhone

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V iPhone and Mac Visionaries List Members: Let's Talk Via Zoom, on Sunday, April 26, 2020

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

So, it is my plan to host a Zoom meeting for all of the members of the V
iPhone and Mac Visionaries communities tomorrow, Sunday April 26.  

As promised, I am posting this notification early so those who wish to
attend may do so.

It is my plan to start the meeting at 2p, California local time.  As I say,
it is my plan but, things can change so if the meeting gets cancelled or has
to be postponed, I will post an update notice here.

My thoughts are that we will take Apple-related questions from members but I
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approximately 15 minutes before the meeting is to begin.

Until Then,

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RE: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[Carolyn]

It would be interesting to hear what you could find out with sound compare ng 
the SE and the 11. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

Well, I have my work iPhone 8 plus, and the new iPhone SE side by side.
I played the same song on each and went back and forth.  Actually with three 
songs.
Away in the Manger and joy to the world by Judy Collins and If I Only Had A 
Brain by Natalie Merchant.
The difference, if there really is one, is minor.
To my ears, the SE may have a little more open sound, but that might be just 
that it has a smaller body.  The 8 plus is about 3/4 of an inch longer and 
about a half inch wider.
Sound is so subjective, that it is difficult to describe.
  I had my wife listen and her description was that the SE sounds wider while 
the 8 plus is a little closed or compressed.
They both have stereo speakers...

I suspect an XR or an 11 might sound better than either of these but I have not 
had much experience other than hearing VoiceOver on a client's phone.
I will be getting a new work iPhone 11 in a couple of weeks.
If you would like, I could do a similar comparison between the SE and the 11.

Its sad that you cannot sample them in a quiet room at the Apple store.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 6:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

Hi richard,
I don’t know how many iPhones you have heard over the years, but I wonder if 
you would be able to comment on the sound of your new phone as against the 
sound of things like say an iPhone 8. Or an iPhone X.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> Greetings,
> I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned on 
> the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and I was 
> able to continue the setup.
> When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
> decided to try that.
> I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
> Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
> Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
> I have over 12000 songs.
> Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could take 
> several hours.
> Well, this method took less than an hour.
> Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, but 
> i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
> I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this on.
> I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
> All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
> Text messages are there.
> So, this is pretty slick.
> The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
> That's all for now.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone

[Ian Harrison]

Hi Richard, good idea, but does it ocr pdf files imported , rather than 
pictures taken?

Thanks
Ian

> On 25 Apr 2020, at 13:25, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Voice Dream Scanner, $5.99 for the iPhone version.
> The only limitation, which the developer is working on, is that columns do 
> not scan well.
> But, you will not find a better OCR app.
> It is fast, accurate, and you can save as accessible PDF, so the visual 
> appearance is there, but the text is also accessible.
> And if you also have Voice Dream Reader, it makes extracting text from an 
> image PDF really slick, but even without being a Voice Dream Reader user, 
> Scanner will show up in the share sheet, so it can be used to extract text 
> from an image PDF.
> For quick and dirty scans without saving, Seeing AI is good.
> O, and Voice Dream Scanner can save multiple pages into one document.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Sent from the iPhone SE 2020
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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>> Hi listers,
>> 
>> Just upgraded to Catalina and I’ve lost my accessible Fine Reader software. 
>> Can you recommend something for either the Mac or iphone that will extract 
>> text to plain text or MS Word that is voice over friendly and doesn’t cost 
>> the earth.
>> 
>> I will be doing it a lot due to needing it for my degree.
>> 
>> Many thanks in advance
>> Ian
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RE: Warning to sprint customers: your old sim may not work in your new phone

[Dennis Long]

I agree sprint sucks.

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phone

I think sprint is crap.  I'd never use them.  I really like Verizon.
They have wonderful disability support.  Whenever I've called them, they've 
always been very helpful.  That was a very rude thing to say to you.

On 4/25/20, alia robinson  wrote:
> I think I would have said well since it doesn’t work I’ll just switch 
> cariers, have a nice day! what a horrible nasty comment. they wouldn’t 
> be continuing to get my business. switching is easy.
> On Apr 25, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
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RE: Warning to sprint customers: your old sim may not work in your new phone

[Dennis Long]

I had sprint years ago.  They were rude to me they are crap.  I would certainly 
think about switching.

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I think sprint is crap.  I'd never use them.  I really like Verizon.
They have wonderful disability support.  Whenever I've called them, they've 
always been very helpful.  That was a very rude thing to say to you.

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> I think I would have said well since it doesn’t work I’ll just switch 
> cariers, have a nice day! what a horrible nasty comment. they wouldn’t 
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Re: iPhone SE 2020 and battery

[Robin]

Hope this is ON Topic: For ThisThread

Does Apple offer  its BatteryChargerCase for its NEW  SE 2020 
(iPhoneSE 2020)? I Presume
the SmartBattery MobilePhone case for Apple's iPhone8 will Fit  it, 
am I  Right-Correct with MyThinkin???


Blessin's to All!
&
Enjoy YourPurchase
At 08:03 AM 4/25/2020, you wrote:
Since Gordan asked about battery life with the new phone I thought 
I'd start a separate thread.


Well, normally I would have thought the battery would run out very 
quickly for the first couple of days.
Last night, after getting through the bulk of the set up, I 
unplugged it at 100% and hit the power button to lock it.

That was about 9:30.
I woke up too early, but at 4:30 AM, it was still at 100%.
I've used it on and off for the last 3 and a half hours, comparing 
the sound, checking Email; trying to problem solve an issue with 
Voice Dream Reader, resetting network settings as part of that, and 
right now it is showing 84%.
I'll keep tabs on it for a couple days, but my first impression is 
that the battery life will be very good.




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iPhone SE 2020 and battery

[Richard Turner]

Since Gordan asked about battery life with the new phone I thought I'd start a 
separate thread.

Well, normally I would have thought the battery would run out very quickly for 
the first couple of days.
Last night, after getting through the bulk of the set up, I unplugged it at 
100% and hit the power button to lock it.
That was about 9:30.
I woke up too early, but at 4:30 AM, it was still at 100%.
I've used it on and off for the last 3 and a half hours, comparing the sound, 
checking Email; trying to problem solve an issue with Voice Dream Reader, 
resetting network settings as part of that, and right now it is showing 84%.
I'll keep tabs on it for a couple days, but my first impression is that the 
battery life will be very good.



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RE: Warning to sprint customers: your old sim may not work in your new phone

[Richard Turner]

Thanks for this.
Since I have Xfinity internet, they don’t charge for minutes just a very 
reasonable charge for data; which I use very little of, which is why I went 
with them for mobile phone coverage.  I think they sublet the Verizon service.
The eSIM, is so that if you were going to travel abroad and your carrier 
supported it, you could get an eSIM card, which as I understand it you scan 
with the camera and get it set up as your primary number, then throw the card 
away.
When you are in another country, or out of your main carrier’s coverage area, 
you can buy a SIM card from a local carrier, and use that secondary number 
while in that area.


Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 7:30 AM
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Hi,

I got my new SE yesterday and I set it up this morning. Everything went fine 
until I put the old sim in the new phone and got no service with a message that 
said the sim had locked.

I reached out to Sprint and after two hours in an online chat, I found out my 
old sim is not compatible with my new phone. They are sending me a new sim and 
waving the shipping charge which I appreciate, but what a pain!

And here’s my other question. The new SE has a digital sim, but apparently the 
phone can‘t be activated without a physical sim. So what is the point of that 
digital sim?

Oh, and this was sort of snarky. At the end of this marathon chat session, the 
sprint guy said, well if you had bought your phone from us this wouldn’t have 
happened.

Gr!

Anyway I just wanted to warn any other unsuspecting sprint customers that you 
better get a new sim with your new phone and save yourself some aggravation.

Kim
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Re: Warning to sprint customers: your old sim may not work in your new phone

[Kimberly]

Yeah, it was a pretty crappy thing to say. But sprint’s cheapness makes it a 
bit easier to swallow.

I’ve been with verizon and t-mobile and sprint has just good coverage but is 
around 100 dollars cheaper than verizon, so I will live with a little rudeness. 
Lol!

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> On Apr 25, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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> I think sprint is crap.  I'd never use them.  I really like Verizon.
> They have wonderful disability support.  Whenever I've called them,
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>> cariers, have a nice day! what a horrible nasty comment. they wouldn’t be
>> continuing to get my business. switching is easy.
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
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RE: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[Richard Turner]

Well, I have my work iPhone 8 plus, and the new iPhone SE side by side.
I played the same song on each and went back and forth.  Actually with three 
songs.
Away in the Manger and joy to the world by Judy Collins and If I Only Had A 
Brain by Natalie Merchant.
The difference, if there really is one, is minor.
To my ears, the SE may have a little more open sound, but that might be just 
that it has a smaller body.  The 8 plus is about 3/4 of an inch longer and 
about a half inch wider.
Sound is so subjective, that it is difficult to describe.
  I had my wife listen and her description was that the SE sounds wider while 
the 8 plus is a little closed or compressed.
They both have stereo speakers...

I suspect an XR or an 11 might sound better than either of these but I have not 
had much experience other than hearing VoiceOver on a client's phone.
I will be getting a new work iPhone 11 in a couple of weeks.
If you would like, I could do a similar comparison between the SE and the 11.

Its sad that you cannot sample them in a quiet room at the Apple store.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 6:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

Hi richard,
I don’t know how many iPhones you have heard over the years, but I wonder if 
you would be able to comment on the sound of your new phone as against the 
sound of things like say an iPhone 8. Or an iPhone X.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned on 
> the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and I was 
> able to continue the setup.
> When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
> decided to try that.
> I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
> Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
> Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
> I have over 12000 songs.
> Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could take 
> several hours.
> Well, this method took less than an hour.
> Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, but 
> i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
> I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this on.
> I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
> All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
> Text messages are there.
> So, this is pretty slick.
> The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
> That's all for now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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Re: Warning to sprint customers: your old sim may not work in your new phone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I think sprint is crap.  I'd never use them.  I really like Verizon.
They have wonderful disability support.  Whenever I've called them,
they've always been very helpful.  That was a very rude thing to say
to you.

On 4/25/20, alia robinson  wrote:
> I think I would have said well since it doesn’t work I’ll just switch
> cariers, have a nice day! what a horrible nasty comment. they wouldn’t be
> continuing to get my business. switching is easy.
> On Apr 25, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
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> the sprint guy said, well if you had bought your phone from us this wouldn’t
> have happened.
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Re: Warning to sprint customers: your old sim may not work in your new phone

[alia robinson]

I think I would have said well since it doesn’t work I’ll just switch cariers, 
have a nice day! what a horrible nasty comment. they wouldn’t be continuing to 
get my business. switching is easy.
On Apr 25, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Kimberly  wrote:


Oh, and this was sort of snarky. At the end of this marathon chat session, the 
sprint guy said, well if you had bought your phone from us this wouldn’t have 
happened. 

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Warning to sprint customers: your old sim may not work in your new phone

[Kimberly]

Hi,

I got my new SE yesterday and I set it up this morning. Everything went fine 
until I put the old sim in the new phone and got no service with a message that 
said the sim had locked.

I reached out to Sprint and after two hours in an online chat, I found out my 
old sim is not compatible with my new phone. They are sending me a new sim and 
waving the shipping charge which I appreciate, but what a pain!

And here’s my other question. The new SE has a digital sim, but apparently the 
phone can‘t be activated without a physical sim. So what is the point of that 
digital sim?

Oh, and this was sort of snarky. At the end of this marathon chat session, the 
sprint guy said, well if you had bought your phone from us this wouldn’t have 
happened. 

Gr!

Anyway I just wanted to warn any other unsuspecting sprint customers that you 
better get a new sim with your new phone and save yourself some aggravation.

Kim

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RE: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[Richard Turner]

At this point, I'd say call Apple Accessibility.
You'll get better answers more quickly.
I'm assuming the same, but I had used both iCloud and computer backups; and so 
I'll defer to the experts.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deidre 
Muccio
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

This may be   Astupid question, but I guess I need to ask it
I’ve never used iCloud to back up my phone’s. I use iTunes. So if I were to do 
this transfer from Phone to Phone I assume I need to have my iCloud back up 
drive on as well as have backed up the phone with iCloud as well. I mean I can 
do that that’s not a problem. Deidre


> On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I cannot help with the positioning of the phone for the image they 
> offer, but the manual method worked fine, and that button is just beyond 
> where the position the phone instructions are and I got to it by just 
> flicking right.
> The phones just need to be near each other.
> The message popped up when they were probably a foot apart.
> Yes, I had set up the wifi, which I assume is necessary, though bluetooth 
> being on is likely the most important.
> The Logitech k480 is a full sized keyboard minus the number pad. There are a 
> lot of VoiceOver keyboard commands, but they work great.
> I have a document that covers them and a document with the keyboard commands 
> and the gestures in tables to help with connecting which keyboard commands 
> equal the gestures.
> They are on my website. 
> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9c63c6c87af44a717e6d08d7e9197d08%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637234167983427051&sdata=h99YNYjSJNWbN8LN5sImCsDoF43hQAtpVkBWq3604VQ%3D&reserved=0
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Sent from the iPhone SE 2020
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard Well that sounds cool. I might try that too. And I don’t have 
>> anywhere near 200 apps on my phone. Can you say more about how I would 
>> position the two phones near one another that would work well? The one thing 
>> that stood out in what you wrote here that is different from what I was told 
>> by someone at Apple Accessibility, is that they said I needed to do the set 
>> up with the Sim card in the new phone. You did it all without the Sim card 
>> in the phone which is what I assumed I would be able to do if I wanted.  you 
>> must’ve had to plug in your Wi-Fi info to activate the phone correct?
>> Can I assume that the Logitech keyboard you referring to is a full-size 
>> keyboard? How different on the commands one needs to learn to use that with 
>> an iPhone andvoice dream writer? I’m ready to get rid of my old computer.
>> 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations on your new purchase. This phone is sounding better every 
>>> day. Please come back here in a few days and let us know how the battery 
>>> life is on this device. I wouldn't even begin to pay attention to battery 
>>> life until Monday as the phone does things under the hood during the first 
>>> few days that will consume more battery than usual. But I'm curious to see 
>>> if this phone offers better battery life compared to the iPhone 8.
>>> 
> On 4/24/2020 8:25 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 Greetings,
 I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned 
 on the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and 
 I was able to continue the setup.
 When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
 decided to try that.
 I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
 Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
 Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
 I have over 12000 songs.
 Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could 
 take several hours.
 Well, this method took less than an hour.
 Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, 
 but i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
 I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this 
 on.
 I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
 All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
 Text messages are there.
 So, this is pretty slick.
 The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
 That's all for now.
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 
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Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[l . d . ethier23]

Hello,
The positionning for the transfert is:
new iPhone under and the old one above with the camera facing the new one.
The camera should point a little lower than the center of the new one and the 
distance between both should be about 6 inch.
Hope it helps!
Lyne

> Le 25 avr. 2020 à 09:06, Deidre Muccio  a écrit :
> 
> This may be   Astupid question, but I guess I need to ask it
> I’ve never used iCloud to back up my phone’s. I use iTunes. So if I were to 
> do this transfer from Phone to Phone I assume I need to have my iCloud back 
> up drive on as well as have backed up the phone with iCloud as well. I mean I 
> can do that that’s not a problem. Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I cannot help with the positioning of the phone for the image they 
>> offer, but the manual method worked fine, and that button is just beyond 
>> where the position the phone instructions are and I got to it by just 
>> flicking right.
>> The phones just need to be near each other.
>> The message popped up when they were probably a foot apart.
>> Yes, I had set up the wifi, which I assume is necessary, though bluetooth 
>> being on is likely the most important.
>> The Logitech k480 is a full sized keyboard minus the number pad. There are a 
>> lot of VoiceOver keyboard commands, but they work great.
>> I have a document that covers them and a document with the keyboard commands 
>> and the gestures in tables to help with connecting which keyboard commands 
>> equal the gestures.
>> They are on my website. www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Sent from the iPhone SE 2020
>> 
 On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Deidre Muccio  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard Well that sounds cool. I might try that too. And I don’t have 
>>> anywhere near 200 apps on my phone. Can you say more about how I would 
>>> position the two phones near one another that would work well? The one 
>>> thing that stood out in what you wrote here that is different from what I 
>>> was told by someone at Apple Accessibility, is that they said I needed to 
>>> do the set up with the Sim card in the new phone. You did it all without 
>>> the Sim card in the phone which is what I assumed I would be able to do if 
>>> I wanted.  you must’ve had to plug in your Wi-Fi info to activate the phone 
>>> correct?
>>> Can I assume that the Logitech keyboard you referring to is a full-size 
>>> keyboard? How different on the commands one needs to learn to use that with 
>>> an iPhone andvoice dream writer? I’m ready to get rid of my old computer.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Deidre
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Gordon  wrote:
 
 Congratulations on your new purchase. This phone is sounding better every 
 day. Please come back here in a few days and let us know how the battery 
 life is on this device. I wouldn't even begin to pay attention to battery 
 life until Monday as the phone does things under the hood during the first 
 few days that will consume more battery than usual. But I'm curious to see 
 if this phone offers better battery life compared to the iPhone 8.
 
>> On 4/24/2020 8:25 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Greetings,
> I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned 
> on the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and 
> I was able to continue the setup.
> When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
> decided to try that.
> I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
> Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
> Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
> I have over 12000 songs.
> Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could 
> take several hours.
> Well, this method took less than an hour.
> Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, 
> but i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
> I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this 
> on.
> I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
> All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
> Text messages are there.
> So, this is pretty slick.
> The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
> That's all for now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[Deidre Muccio]

This may be   Astupid question, but I guess I need to ask it
I’ve never used iCloud to back up my phone’s. I use iTunes. So if I were to do 
this transfer from Phone to Phone I assume I need to have my iCloud back up 
drive on as well as have backed up the phone with iCloud as well. I mean I can 
do that that’s not a problem. Deidre


> On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I cannot help with the positioning of the phone for the image they 
> offer, but the manual method worked fine, and that button is just beyond 
> where the position the phone instructions are and I got to it by just 
> flicking right.
> The phones just need to be near each other.
> The message popped up when they were probably a foot apart.
> Yes, I had set up the wifi, which I assume is necessary, though bluetooth 
> being on is likely the most important.
> The Logitech k480 is a full sized keyboard minus the number pad. There are a 
> lot of VoiceOver keyboard commands, but they work great.
> I have a document that covers them and a document with the keyboard commands 
> and the gestures in tables to help with connecting which keyboard commands 
> equal the gestures.
> They are on my website. www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Sent from the iPhone SE 2020
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard Well that sounds cool. I might try that too. And I don’t have 
>> anywhere near 200 apps on my phone. Can you say more about how I would 
>> position the two phones near one another that would work well? The one thing 
>> that stood out in what you wrote here that is different from what I was told 
>> by someone at Apple Accessibility, is that they said I needed to do the set 
>> up with the Sim card in the new phone. You did it all without the Sim card 
>> in the phone which is what I assumed I would be able to do if I wanted.  you 
>> must’ve had to plug in your Wi-Fi info to activate the phone correct?
>> Can I assume that the Logitech keyboard you referring to is a full-size 
>> keyboard? How different on the commands one needs to learn to use that with 
>> an iPhone andvoice dream writer? I’m ready to get rid of my old computer.
>> 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations on your new purchase. This phone is sounding better every 
>>> day. Please come back here in a few days and let us know how the battery 
>>> life is on this device. I wouldn't even begin to pay attention to battery 
>>> life until Monday as the phone does things under the hood during the first 
>>> few days that will consume more battery than usual. But I'm curious to see 
>>> if this phone offers better battery life compared to the iPhone 8.
>>> 
> On 4/24/2020 8:25 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 Greetings,
 I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned 
 on the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and 
 I was able to continue the setup.
 When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
 decided to try that.
 I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
 Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
 Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
 I have over 12000 songs.
 Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could 
 take several hours.
 Well, this method took less than an hour.
 Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, 
 but i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
 I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this 
 on.
 I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
 All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
 Text messages are there.
 So, this is pretty slick.
 The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
 That's all for now.
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 
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Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[Richard Turner]

My understanding is that doing the phone to phone, the new phone inherits the 
settings, including the sign in.
But, this is the first time iV: done this.
So, I'd call Apple Accessibility.




Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:41 AM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
> 
> I have one more thing that might be a problem unless I make a change. My 
> phone has also arrived. I have a different Apple sign in on the new phone 
> because my old email and my whole sign in well the old sign in on my old 
> phone works just fine except that I can’t access that email any longer so I 
> used a different email address in a different password. Will I need the two 
> signings and emails to match before I do anything? Is that a question for 
> Apple Accessibility? I asked that question of them recently  and they said no 
> it wouldn’t make any difference, but given the way Richard set up his phone, 
> it Richard that might make a big difference.
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned on 
>> the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and I was 
>> able to continue the setup.
>> When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
>> decided to try that.
>> I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
>> Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
>> Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
>> I have over 12000 songs.
>> Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could take 
>> several hours.
>> Well, this method took less than an hour.
>> Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, 
>> but i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
>> I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this on.
>> I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
>> All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
>> Text messages are there.
>> So, this is pretty slick.
>> The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
>> That's all for now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
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Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[Richard Turner]

Well, I cannot help with the positioning of the phone for the image they offer, 
but the manual method worked fine, and that button is just beyond where the 
position the phone instructions are and I got to it by just flicking right.
The phones just need to be near each other.
The message popped up when they were probably a foot apart.
Yes, I had set up the wifi, which I assume is necessary, though bluetooth being 
on is likely the most important.
The Logitech k480 is a full sized keyboard minus the number pad. There are a 
lot of VoiceOver keyboard commands, but they work great.
I have a document that covers them and a document with the keyboard commands 
and the gestures in tables to help with connecting which keyboard commands 
equal the gestures.
They are on my website. www.turner42.com




Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
> 
> Richard Well that sounds cool. I might try that too. And I don’t have 
> anywhere near 200 apps on my phone. Can you say more about how I would 
> position the two phones near one another that would work well? The one thing 
> that stood out in what you wrote here that is different from what I was told 
> by someone at Apple Accessibility, is that they said I needed to do the set 
> up with the Sim card in the new phone. You did it all without the Sim card in 
> the phone which is what I assumed I would be able to do if I wanted.  you 
> must’ve had to plug in your Wi-Fi info to activate the phone correct?
> Can I assume that the Logitech keyboard you referring to is a full-size 
> keyboard? How different on the commands one needs to learn to use that with 
> an iPhone andvoice dream writer? I’m ready to get rid of my old computer.
> 
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> Congratulations on your new purchase. This phone is sounding better every 
>> day. Please come back here in a few days and let us know how the battery 
>> life is on this device. I wouldn't even begin to pay attention to battery 
>> life until Monday as the phone does things under the hood during the first 
>> few days that will consume more battery than usual. But I'm curious to see 
>> if this phone offers better battery life compared to the iPhone 8.
>> 
 On 4/24/2020 8:25 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned 
>>> on the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and I 
>>> was able to continue the setup.
>>> When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
>>> decided to try that.
>>> I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
>>> Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
>>> Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
>>> I have over 12000 songs.
>>> Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could 
>>> take several hours.
>>> Well, this method took less than an hour.
>>> Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, 
>>> but i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
>>> I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this 
>>> on.
>>> I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
>>> All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
>>> Text messages are there.
>>> So, this is pretty slick.
>>> The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
>>> That's all for now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
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Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[Deidre Muccio]

I have one more thing that might be a problem unless I make a change. My phone 
has also arrived. I have a different Apple sign in on the new phone because my 
old email and my whole sign in well the old sign in on my old phone works just 
fine except that I can’t access that email any longer so I used a different 
email address in a different password. Will I need the two signings and emails 
to match before I do anything? Is that a question for Apple Accessibility? I 
asked that question of them recently  and they said no it wouldn’t make any 
difference, but given the way Richard set up his phone, it Richard that might 
make a big difference.

Deidre


> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned on 
> the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and I was 
> able to continue the setup.
> When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
> decided to try that.
> I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
> Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
> Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
> I have over 12000 songs.
> Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could take 
> several hours.
> Well, this method took less than an hour.
> Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, but 
> i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
> I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this on.
> I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
> All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
> Text messages are there.
> So, this is pretty slick.
> The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
> That's all for now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[Deidre Muccio]

Richard Well that sounds cool. I might try that too. And I don’t have anywhere 
near 200 apps on my phone. Can you say more about how I would position the two 
phones near one another that would work well? The one thing that stood out in 
what you wrote here that is different from what I was told by someone at Apple 
Accessibility, is that they said I needed to do the set up with the Sim card in 
the new phone. You did it all without the Sim card in the phone which is what I 
assumed I would be able to do if I wanted.  you must’ve had to plug in your 
Wi-Fi info to activate the phone correct?
Can I assume that the Logitech keyboard you referring to is a full-size 
keyboard? How different on the commands one needs to learn to use that with an 
iPhone andvoice dream writer? I’m ready to get rid of my old computer.


Deidre


> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations on your new purchase. This phone is sounding better every 
> day. Please come back here in a few days and let us know how the battery life 
> is on this device. I wouldn't even begin to pay attention to battery life 
> until Monday as the phone does things under the hood during the first few 
> days that will consume more battery than usual. But I'm curious to see if 
> this phone offers better battery life compared to the iPhone 8.
> 
>> On 4/24/2020 8:25 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned on 
>> the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and I was 
>> able to continue the setup.
>> When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
>> decided to try that.
>> I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
>> Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
>> Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
>> I have over 12000 songs.
>> Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could take 
>> several hours.
>> Well, this method took less than an hour.
>> Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, 
>> but i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
>> I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this on.
>> I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
>> All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
>> Text messages are there.
>> So, this is pretty slick.
>> The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
>> That's all for now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
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Re: OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone

[Richard Turner]

Voice Dream Scanner, $5.99 for the iPhone version.
The only limitation, which the developer is working on, is that columns do not 
scan well.
But, you will not find a better OCR app.
It is fast, accurate, and you can save as accessible PDF, so the visual 
appearance is there, but the text is also accessible.
And if you also have Voice Dream Reader, it makes extracting text from an image 
PDF really slick, but even without being a Voice Dream Reader user, Scanner 
will show up in the share sheet, so it can be used to extract text from an 
image PDF.
For quick and dirty scans without saving, Seeing AI is good.
O, and Voice Dream Scanner can save multiple pages into one document.




Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> Just upgraded to Catalina and I’ve lost my accessible Fine Reader software. 
> Can you recommend something for either the Mac or iphone that will extract 
> text to plain text or MS Word that is voice over friendly and doesn’t cost 
> the earth.
> 
> I will be doing it a lot due to needing it for my degree.
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> Ian
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Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[l . d . ethier23]

I did it with the quick way and it's fantastic because nothing to do and you 
find evrything the same. I didn't have to write my wifi key. 

Lyne

> Le 25 avr. 2020 à 06:40, Robert Doc Wright  a 
> écrit :
> 
> I had no problem setting up my wife's new SE2020 but when it came to setting 
> up my old 6S+ that she was using I had to do what you did and do it manually.
> **
> If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
> situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
> - Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" 
> 
> To: "ViPone list" 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 7:25 PM
> Subject: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020
> 
> 
>> Greetings,
>> I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned on 
>> the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and I was 
>> able to continue the setup.
>> When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
>> decided to try that.
>> I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
>> Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
>> Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
>> I have over 12000 songs.
>> Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could take 
>> several hours.
>> Well, this method took less than an hour.
>> Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, 
>> but i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
>> I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this on.
>> I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
>> All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
>> Text messages are there.
>> So, this is pretty slick.
>> The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
>> That's all for now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
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OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone

[Ian Harrison]

Hi listers,

Just upgraded to Catalina and I’ve lost my accessible Fine Reader software. Can 
you recommend something for either the Mac or iphone that will extract text to 
plain text or MS Word that is voice over friendly and doesn’t cost the earth.

I will be doing it a lot due to needing it for my degree.

Many thanks in advance
Ian

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Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

[Robert Doc Wright]

I had no problem setting up my wife's new SE2020 but when it came to setting 
up my old 6S+ that she was using I had to do what you did and do it 
manually.

**
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: "ViPone list" 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 7:25 PM
Subject: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020



Greetings,
I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned 
on the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and 
I was able to continue the setup.
When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
decided to try that.

I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
I have over 12000 songs.
Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could 
take several hours.

Well, this method took less than an hour.
Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, 
but i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this 
on.

I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
Text messages are there.
So, this is pretty slick.
The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
That's all for now.




Richard

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Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

[Dave]

Hi, thank you for this information.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from 
scratch - all help appreciated


Slide to type does not kick in unless you hold your finger on the screen in 
one spot for 1 second. Just don't do this and it won't be a problem.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from 
scratch - all help appreciated


What happens, with that new slide to type keyboard, when setting up a new 
phone from scratch?


I usually set up a new phone, from an iCloud back-up. Which means i will 
have to put in my apple ID.


Will a new phone use the slide to type, from the start, or will it only kick 
in, after the phone is up and running, as it could prove difficult, because 
you can't turn it off, until you can access the settings.


Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from 
scratch - all help appreciated


Gera,

I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup 
when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing 
response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only 
ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted 
iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps 
from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a 
backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer.


Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from 
scratch - all help appreciated


Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone 
transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I 
wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred 
everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without 
having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the 
essence then, in usin the phone to phone method?


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty 
escribi :

?Richard and others,

If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier,

Once you have vo switched on,
And your sim card in,
You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close
to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to
talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be
instigated behind the seens.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from
scratch - all help appreciated

As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct.
A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to
remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push
too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great
if the sim removal tool is not in the box.
Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start
VoiceOver.
The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any
lingering problems, they will be inherited.
I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my
computer.
The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like
passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details.
I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me
through it.
Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own.
But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think.
I'll be calling my carrier to double check.




Richard



On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

?Eleanor,



I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020
and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've
never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your
questions.



My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be
able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see
below for other steps you need to do before this.



I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing
anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over
the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few 

RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated

[Simon A Fogarty]

Just follow the prompts on the screen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2020 4:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch 
- all help appreciated

When transfering between two phones, is it all or nothing, or can one transfer 
specific data,  such as mail? Thanks for any information. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

When doing this, you have to make sure that Bluetooth on both devices is on, 
and, at least initially, you have to position the back camera of your new phone 
just so in relation to the front of the old phone so that the process gets 
started. This at least was my experience last time with iPods. You can do a 
screen share with Apple accessibility to help you.

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:19 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Richard and others,
> 
> If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier,
> 
> Once you have vo switched on,
> And your sim card in,
> You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close 
> to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to talk 
> to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be instigated 
> behind the seens.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from 
> scratch - all help appreciated
> 
> As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct.
> A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to 
> remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push too 
> hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great if the 
> sim removal tool is not in the box.
> Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start VoiceOver.
> The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any lingering 
> problems, they will be inherited.
> I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my computer.
> The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like 
> passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details.
> I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me through 
> it.
> Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own.
> But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think.
> I'll be calling my carrier to double check.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Eleanor,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 and 
>> will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've never 
>> transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your 
>> questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be 
>> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see 
>> below for other steps you need to do before this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing 
>> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over the 
>> air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my 
>> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted iTunes 
>> backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. Since your 
>> Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud backup before 
>> setting up your new SE. To do so:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1.  From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, 
>> double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store.
>> 
>> 2.  Swipe to iCloud and double tap.
>> 
>> 3.  Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and 
>> double tap.
>> 
>> 4.  Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in the 
>> list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button and 
>> double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a few 
>> minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the latest 
>> backup when it's done.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted 
>> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you 
>> can have too many backups.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones 
>> came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid plan 
>> recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with your 
>> iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM  release hole will 
>> be in the very middle of that right edge below the power button. You will 
>> need a SIM card r