Re: Answering iPhone

[Marty Hutchings]

Using SIRI to call back is a good option.  I don’t know how many times that I 
have tried to call a sighted person and was in the process of leaving them a 
voice mail when they called me back.  It is not just a blind thing being to 
slow to answer a call.

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signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

From: mmmat 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

He does not really have enough vision for Zoom.  Part of the issue is that he 
responds slowly and when he hears the phone, then finds it, then makes any 
gestors to answer the call, it goes to voice mail.

 

I did have another thought.  After he misses his call, he can ask SIRI to call 
back.  Assuming that it is someone he knows or someone in his contact list, 
Siri will perform a call back.

 

Not the greatest option, but maybe a doable solution.

 

Mario 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

 

Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight it could 
be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well as I, and others I 
presoom, would like. But for low vision users, their is also Zoom which from 
what people tell me, works quite well. I am totally blind, so cannot vouch for 
how well or not, Zoom works. 

Daniel

 





  On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

   

  There is no speak command to answer the phone.

  There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer whether he's by the phone or not.

  Not my first choice.

  Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.

  Sadly, Siri will not read emails.

  I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
stupid in my opinion that it does not.

   

   

   

   

  Richard

  "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat  wrote:



Hi Group,

 

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also 
suffering from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is 
using an iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it 
will be too difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

 

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using 
the Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.

 

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being 
able to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email 
message using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email 
message aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells 
me the name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual 
email message.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

 

Mario 

 

 

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Re: Creating email folders within the iPhone

[Mike B]

Hi Marty,

Yes it is.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Marty Hutchings
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Creating email folders within the iPhone


Please forgive me if someone has answered this as I want to create a new
mail folder, but on my iPhone 8 running IOS 13.7 in the Mail ap, I don't
find a New Folder, I do find a New Mailbox button.  Would this be the same
thing?



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-Original Message- 
From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 5:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Jim Portillo
Subject: Re: Creating email folders within the iPhone

Hi, open Mail. Choose the Back button until you are at the main list of
mailboxes. Choose Edit at the top corner. Now, at the bottom of the
screen, choose new folder. In the edit field, give it a name. Swipe to
an unlabeled button and tap that to choose the location of this folder.
That should do it. All you have to do now is choose Done to go back to
the so-called normal mode.

I hope this helps.


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On 10/21/2020 3:48 PM, Jim Portillo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was asked the following question and cannot seem to find it; although I
> remember doing this years ago!
>
> How does one create folders within one’s email account on the iPhone? This
> person would like to move certain messages he gets into the created
> folder.
>
> He’s using the native mail app on his phone with an iCloud account.
>
> I have been hunting and hunting and can’t seem to find the answer.
>
> Anyone know?
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Re: Creating email folders within the iPhone

[Marty Hutchings]

Please forgive me if someone has answered this as I want to create a new 
mail folder, but on my iPhone 8 running IOS 13.7 in the Mail ap, I don't 
find a New Folder, I do find a New Mailbox button.  Would this be the same 
thing?




Love in Christ
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If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William 
Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and 
fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
-Original Message- 
From: Raul A. Gallegos

Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 5:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Jim Portillo
Subject: Re: Creating email folders within the iPhone

Hi, open Mail. Choose the Back button until you are at the main list of
mailboxes. Choose Edit at the top corner. Now, at the bottom of the
screen, choose new folder. In the edit field, give it a name. Swipe to
an unlabeled button and tap that to choose the location of this folder.
That should do it. All you have to do now is choose Done to go back to
the so-called normal mode.

I hope this helps.


Raul A. Gallegos
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Work: (832) 639-4477  |  train...@rgats.com

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David Thornburg


On 10/21/2020 3:48 PM, Jim Portillo wrote:

Hello,

I was asked the following question and cannot seem to find it; although I 
remember doing this years ago!


How does one create folders within one’s email account on the iPhone? This 
person would like to move certain messages he gets into the created 
folder.


He’s using the native mail app on his phone with an iCloud account.

I have been hunting and hunting and can’t seem to find the answer.

Anyone know?

Jim

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Re: Message state still announced as unread even when email is open iOS 14.1

[Shai]

Hello Simon,
I am using an iPhone8 plus with the built-in mail app.
Perhaps I should also note that this behavior is occurring in the all
inboxes view but I am not sure if that would make a difference as this
had not been present on iOS 13.7.
I am also noticing that new mail received does not seem to be in view
by VoiceOver. In order for new mail to be in view, I first need to
back out of the all inboxes view with a two finger scrub gesture or by
tapping on the back button and double tap on all inboxes.


On 10/21/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> This I'm interested in,
>
> What is the phone you are using?
>
> And which of the email clients on your phone are you using,
> The built in mail app or something else like outlook?
>
> On my iPhone 11 pro max I am not finding this issue
> That could be due to a slightly different IOS version but I can say it's not
> so with my devices.
>
> -Original Message-
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> 14.1
>
> Hello,
> in iOS 14.1 I am noticing that the state of an email message with VoiceOver
> is still announced as unread even after I read the message.
> Is this a bug or is there a particular feature I need to enable? I do not
> use the threaded list of emails.
> Thank you in advance for any responses.
>
>
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Does anyone know?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, does anyone know if they make an Otterbox case for the 
series 5 watch, for a 42 MM?


I would think that they would. But if they do, I can't seem to find one. 
However, maybe a different sized model works with the 42 MM?



Any help is much appreciated.


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RE: Message state still announced as unread even when email is open iOS 14.1

[Simon A Fogarty]

This I'm interested in,

What is the phone you are using?

And which of the email clients on your phone are you using,
The built in mail app or something else like outlook?

On my iPhone 11 pro max I am not finding this issue 
That could be due to a slightly different IOS version but I can say it's not so 
with my devices.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Message state still announced as unread even when email is open iOS 
14.1

Hello,
in iOS 14.1 I am noticing that the state of an email message with VoiceOver is 
still announced as unread even after I read the message.
Is this a bug or is there a particular feature I need to enable? I do not use 
the threaded list of emails.
Thank you in advance for any responses.



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Message state still announced as unread even when email is open iOS 14.1

[Shai]

Hello,
in iOS 14.1 I am noticing that the state of an email message with
VoiceOver is still announced as unread even after I read the message.
Is this a bug or is there a particular feature I need to enable? I do
not use the threaded list of emails.
Thank you in advance for any responses.



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RE: when are they going to fix voiceover

[Christopher Chaltain]

The focus bug seems fixed to me in several apps, such as the contact page in 
the Phone app, but it's not fixed on the Today screen.

> -Original Message-
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> 
> The focus bugs will only be fixed in ios14.2 because most items now are fixed 
> in
> the public beta ios 14.2 b4. And before people start wining do not talk about
> betas, these are public betas so there is no reason not to mention about them.
> Davy
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> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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> Verzonden: dinsdag 20 oktober 2020 21:02
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> Onderwerp: RE: when are they going to fix voiceover
> 
> iOS 14.1 was just released with the focus bug supposedly being fixed.
> Downloading it now.
> We'll see...
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
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> You can write them at accessibil...@apple.com Or call them at 877-204-3930
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> 
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RE: Answering iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ok, that’s kind of what I thought with the demensure

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mmmat
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 2:30 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

Having voiceover on is too demanding on him.  Too confusing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

What is really stopping him having voiceover on?

Just doesn’t want it or it will cause confusion for him?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of mmmat
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 1:54 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

He does not really have enough vision for Zoom.  Part of the issue is that he 
responds slowly and when he hears the phone, then finds it, then makes any 
gestors to answer the call, it goes to voice mail.

I did have another thought.  After he misses his call, he can ask SIRI to call 
back.  Assuming that it is someone he knows or someone in his contact list, 
Siri will perform a call back.

Not the greatest option, but maybe a doable solution.

Mario


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight it could 
be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well as I, and others I 
presoom, would like. But for low vision users, their is also Zoom which from 
what people tell me, works quite well. I am totally blind, so cannot vouch for 
how well or not, Zoom works.
Daniel


On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

There is no speak command to answer the phone.
There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer whether he's by the phone or not.
Not my first choice.
Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.
Sadly, Siri will not read emails.
I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
stupid in my opinion that it does not.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat 
mailto:mmm...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi Group,

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

Any help is much appreciated.

Mario


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RE: Answering iPhone

[mmmat]

Interesting.  I will review the auto answer with him.  Maybe if it is a 30 or 
60 second delay, it might work for him.  Another good option.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

 

I just checked the Auto answer settings. You can set it to auto answer between 
3 and 60 seconds. 

The setting is under settings, accessibility, touch.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

What is really stopping him having voiceover on?

 

Just doesn’t want it or it will cause confusion for him?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of mmmat
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 1:54 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

 

He does not really have enough vision for Zoom.  Part of the issue is that he 
responds slowly and when he hears the phone, then finds it, then makes any 
gestors to answer the call, it goes to voice mail.

 

I did have another thought.  After he misses his call, he can ask SIRI to call 
back.  Assuming that it is someone he knows or someone in his contact list, 
Siri will perform a call back.

 

Not the greatest option, but maybe a doable solution.

 

Mario 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

 

Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight it could 
be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well as I, and others I 
presoom, would like. But for low vision users, their is also Zoom which from 
what people tell me, works quite well. I am totally blind, so cannot vouch for 
how well or not, Zoom works. 

Daniel

 

 

On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

There is no speak command to answer the phone.

There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer whether he's by the phone or not.

Not my first choice.

Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.

Sadly, Siri will not read emails.

I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
stupid in my opinion that it does not.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat mailto:mmm...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hi Group,

 

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

 

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.

 

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

 

Mario 

 

 

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RE: Answering iPhone

[mmmat]

Having voiceover on is too demanding on him.  Too confusing.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

 

What is really stopping him having voiceover on?

 

Just doesn’t want it or it will cause confusion for him?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of mmmat
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 1:54 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

 

He does not really have enough vision for Zoom.  Part of the issue is that he 
responds slowly and when he hears the phone, then finds it, then makes any 
gestors to answer the call, it goes to voice mail.

 

I did have another thought.  After he misses his call, he can ask SIRI to call 
back.  Assuming that it is someone he knows or someone in his contact list, 
Siri will perform a call back.

 

Not the greatest option, but maybe a doable solution.

 

Mario 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

 

Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight it could 
be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well as I, and others I 
presoom, would like. But for low vision users, their is also Zoom which from 
what people tell me, works quite well. I am totally blind, so cannot vouch for 
how well or not, Zoom works. 

Daniel

 

 

On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

There is no speak command to answer the phone.

There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer whether he's by the phone or not.

Not my first choice.

Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.

Sadly, Siri will not read emails.

I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
stupid in my opinion that it does not.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat mailto:mmm...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hi Group,

 

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

 

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.

 

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

 

Mario 

 

 

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Re: Answering iPhone

[Richard Turner]

I just checked the Auto answer settings. You can set it to auto answer between 
3 and 60 seconds.
The setting is under settings, accessibility, touch.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


What is really stopping him having voiceover on?

Just doesn’t want it or it will cause confusion for him?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mmmat
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 1:54 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

He does not really have enough vision for Zoom.  Part of the issue is that he 
responds slowly and when he hears the phone, then finds it, then makes any 
gestors to answer the call, it goes to voice mail.

I did have another thought.  After he misses his call, he can ask SIRI to call 
back.  Assuming that it is someone he knows or someone in his contact list, 
Siri will perform a call back.

Not the greatest option, but maybe a doable solution.

Mario


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight it could 
be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well as I, and others I 
presoom, would like. But for low vision users, their is also Zoom which from 
what people tell me, works quite well. I am totally blind, so cannot vouch for 
how well or not, Zoom works.
Daniel


On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

There is no speak command to answer the phone.
There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer whether he's by the phone or not.
Not my first choice.
Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.
Sadly, Siri will not read emails.
I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
stupid in my opinion that it does not.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat 
mailto:mmm...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi Group,

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

Any help is much appreciated.

Mario


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RE: Answering iPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

What is really stopping him having voiceover on?

Just doesn’t want it or it will cause confusion for him?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mmmat
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 1:54 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

He does not really have enough vision for Zoom.  Part of the issue is that he 
responds slowly and when he hears the phone, then finds it, then makes any 
gestors to answer the call, it goes to voice mail.

I did have another thought.  After he misses his call, he can ask SIRI to call 
back.  Assuming that it is someone he knows or someone in his contact list, 
Siri will perform a call back.

Not the greatest option, but maybe a doable solution.

Mario


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight it could 
be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well as I, and others I 
presoom, would like. But for low vision users, their is also Zoom which from 
what people tell me, works quite well. I am totally blind, so cannot vouch for 
how well or not, Zoom works.
Daniel


On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

There is no speak command to answer the phone.
There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer whether he's by the phone or not.
Not my first choice.
Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.
Sadly, Siri will not read emails.
I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
stupid in my opinion that it does not.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat 
mailto:mmm...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi Group,

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

Any help is much appreciated.

Mario


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RE: Answering iPhone

[mmmat]

He does not really have enough vision for Zoom.  Part of the issue is that he 
responds slowly and when he hears the phone, then finds it, then makes any 
gestors to answer the call, it goes to voice mail.

 

I did have another thought.  After he misses his call, he can ask SIRI to call 
back.  Assuming that it is someone he knows or someone in his contact list, 
Siri will perform a call back.

 

Not the greatest option, but maybe a doable solution.

 

Mario 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

 

Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight it could 
be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well as I, and others I 
presoom, would like. But for low vision users, their is also Zoom which from 
what people tell me, works quite well. I am totally blind, so cannot vouch for 
how well or not, Zoom works. 

Daniel

 





On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

There is no speak command to answer the phone.

There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer whether he's by the phone or not.

Not my first choice.

Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.

Sadly, Siri will not read emails.

I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
stupid in my opinion that it does not.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat mailto:mmm...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hi Group,

 

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

 

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.

 

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

 

Mario 

 

 

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RE: Answering iPhone

[mmmat]

Thanks for all your responses.  I just don’t  think that having head phones or 
ear buds will work.  That means that he will either have them on all the time 
or quickly put them on when he gets a call.  I don’t think he will be able to 
react that quickly to answer the call.

 

I tried to show him how to quickly turn on voice over when he receives a call 
and then do a two finger double tap.  Again, too much for him to do in a short 
period of time.

 

Voice command  is an interesting  possibility.  I will experiment with this 
some to check out the feasibility.

 

Mario 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

 

For many uses, Voice Control works fine with VoiceOver if you are using 
headphones.

Otherwise, there are some issues with it hearing VoiceOver and confusing it.

The bottom line in  this use case though is I do not think it will help for 
answering the phone.

I would like to be wrong about that.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper  

 

Check out my web site at:  

 www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Fwd: Answering iPhone

 

Sorry gentle readers, this message was supposed to go to the entire group, must 
be a flaw in human software!

 



 Forwarded Message  


Subject: 

Re: Answering iPhone


Date: 

Wed, 21 Oct 2020 18:54:48 -0500


From: 

doug parisian   


To: 

Daniel MacDonald   


 

I have read several messages claiming voice control works poorly with 
voiceover.  In fact, this is logical when not using any external listening 
devices.  The mike is constantly listening and so may react in unexpected ways 
to a word or phrase spoken by Voiceover.

 

So, if you want/need to use voice control, do so with an external device with a 
microphone.  I love voice control for many situations and only wish it could be 
used to activate features of programs once opened.


On 2020-10-21 6:11 p.m., Daniel MacDonald wrote:
> Have you considered voice control? Since your client has some sight > it 
> could be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well > as I, and 
> others I presoom, would like. But for low vision users, > their is also Zoom 
> which from what people tell me, works quite well. > I am totally blind, so 
> cannot vouch for how well or not, Zoom works. > Daniel > > >> On Oct 21, 
> 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner >>      
> > >> wrote: >> >> There is no speak 
> command to answer the phone. There is an auto >> answer setting you can 
> enable but that means it's going to answer >> whether he's by the phone or 
> not. Not my first choice. Otherwise I >> think voiceover gesture is the only 
> way unless he can learn where >> to touch his finger and slide to answer 
> without voiceover. Sadly, >> Siri will not read emails. I suppose you could 
> try turning on >> speak screen, but he would have to be able to open the 
> email >> first, and that does not sound possible. So I would write Apple >> 
> accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to >> read 
> emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from >> the start and 
> is stupid in my opinion that it does not. >> >> >> >> >> Richard "He that 
> cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which >> he must pass himself,” 
> and we forget that only grace can break the >> cycle of ancient hatreds among 
> peoples. (It is notable that while I >> have regretted not granting grace to 
> others, I’ve never once >> regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert >> >>> 
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat   
> >>   
> > wrote: >>> >>>  Hi Group, >>> >>> I am working 
> with an individual that is very low vision and is >>> also suffering from a 
> mild case of dementia and he gets >>> overwhelmed easily. He is using an 
> iPhone 8 and I am very >>> reluctant to turn on voice over. I think it will 
> be too >>> difficult for him to 

RE: when on a zoom call, can voiceover users use the chat within the zoom app?

[Carolyn]

Yes, I have. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: when on a zoom call, can voiceover users use the chat within the zoom 
app?

hi,
I am wondering if voiceover users can interact with the chat function when 
participating on a zoom call?
I am wondering because I have not yet been able to find a way to mute the voice 
is within the zoom call. I do not think I could possibly type and listen to 
chat with the presentation or discussion going.
If it is possible, can you please explain how this can be accomplished?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: Answering iPhone

[Carolyn]

Bluetooth would work too, wouldn't it, and he could get those telescoping ones. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering iPhone

Yes, using the wired earbuds would be the best way.

 

Sadly, the suggestion of Voice Control that someone made likely won’t work as 
there is no voice command for answer phone that I’ve found.

You may be able to say tap answer button, but you would have to hang up 
manually since voice control stops listening when you are on a call.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper  

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

 

Hi, 

 

One potential way to handle answering the phone could be to employ the Apple 
earbuds. If you are using them and the phone rings, you can press the centre of 
the control on the earbud cord. This will answer the phone call. The centre of 
that control is also the microphone so you can simply talk away on the call. To 
hang up you simply press the centre again after the call. 

 

How feasible this will be depends on the individual wearing the earbuds with 
the phone. A more expensive option could be to use Air Pods which are bluetooth 
and provide a similar function. Other less expensive bluetooth headphone / 
microphone devices may also provide a similar function. With bluetooth you 
would not have to be physically tethered to the phone by a cord. However, you 
would need to consider what needs to be done to care for the bluetooth devices. 

 

Yes, SIRI can send emails but sadly, as you say, won't read them to you. SIRI 
can send text messages and will read back any "new" (unread) text messages you 
have waiting. SIRI will ask if you wish to reply to a given text message it 
reads out. 

 

If using Voiceover gestures presents difficulties, perhaps using the "voice 
command" feature of IOS would help. "Voice Command" used to work in conjunction 
with Voiceover but I have heard, but not confirmed, that under IOS 14.x, it no 
longer does. Still, this might be an option for issuing IOS system commands. 
Just a thought. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

will 


On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:12 PM, mmmat mailto:mmm...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hi Group,

 

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

 

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available. 

 

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

 

Mario 

 

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RE: Answering iPhone

[Carolyn]

Doesn't Auto Answer answer on the second ring, or can you adjust it to three or 
four rings? 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

There is no speak command to answer the phone.
There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer whether he's by the phone or not.
Not my first choice.
Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.
Sadly, Siri will not read emails.
I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
stupid in my opinion that it does not.






Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat  wrote:



 

Hi Group,

 

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also 
suffering from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is 
using an iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it 
will be too difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

 

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him 
using the Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available. 

 

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without 
being able to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an 
email message using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and 
email message aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only 
tells me the name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the 
actual email message.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

 

Mario 

 



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RE: Voicemail issue

[Carolyn]

I remember when I set mine up on my 11 in early January that I put in my 
six-digit AT passcode, I think. 

Do you have a code with your carrier? Was that the four-digit one? AT told me 
mine had to be six. Otherwise, you could call Apple Accessibility. 

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Subject: Voicemail issue

I have absolutely no idea what happened, but when I updated my phone plan or 
maybe when I updated my IOS version, my voicemail and mailbox got messed up, 
and now I need to set it up again.

The problem is this.  I go to the setup button and it asks for a password. In  
the past, I’ve had a four digit password I’ve used, and when I’ve tried 
entering it and hit the “done” button, it tells me that the particular button 
is dimmed. I don’t know how to proceed because it doesn’t let me. Do I need a 
larger numbered password or something different?

Can I set it up differently or from some place else?

I’m going to have the same issue when I get my 12 in a few days, but people 
aren’t able to leave me voice mails right now.

 

Jim

 

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Re: Creating email folders within the iPhone

[englishrider91]

Hi, Jim,


The way I do it is this. Mind you, this used to work for Gmail, but hasn't 
seemed to in a while, so hopefully it will work with an iCloud email account. 
Anyhow, here's what you do. I have multiple email accounts in the Mail app, so 
I back out until I'm at the main level. Then, I make sure the correct account 
is expanded. Press the edit button in the top right-hand corner. You'll then 
see a  button called Create New Mailbox in the bottom right-hand corner. 
Double-tap on that, type what you want the folder to be called, and press the 
button called either Done or OK (I don't remember the exact name at the 
moment). That should do it, if the feature isn't broken with iCloud email 
accounts, that is.


Hope this helps,
Ari

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I was asked the following question and cannot seem to find it; although I 
> remember doing this years ago!
> How does one create folders within one’s email account on the iPhone? This 
> person would like to move certain messages he gets into the created folder.
> He’s using the native mail app on his phone with an iCloud account.
> I have been hunting and hunting and can’t seem to find the answer.
> Anyone know?
> Jim
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: When I Change My Apple ID

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi Allen and others,
Allen, what additional benefit do you get from the Apple support app, as 
opposed to just using a search in Safari, specifying Apple support as one of 
the keywords?
Thanks, Keith

> On Oct 18, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
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> I agree about having a gmail or outlook email address now. That way, one 
> does not have to change it if their ISP changes. i have had my mindspring 
> address since November, 1996, when the company was mindspring, then bought by 
> earthlink. I used my mindspring address to establish my apple ID when I first 
> put ITunes onto my computer in 2010. But for the past little while, earthlink 
> has been leting more and more junk into my email, and they either can't or 
> won't do anything about it. Now, Spectrum is ending their contract with 
> earthlink in my area, so I will cancel my earthlink account as of November 1. 
>  I am a little sentimental about it, but in other ways, I won't be sorry to 
> let it go. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
> 
> On Oct 18, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You can change your Apple Id email and this way all your purchases remain 
> associated with that Apple Id.
> I highly recommend people get an Outlook or Gmail email address once and be 
> done with changing email addresses for the rest of their lives. If you have 
> an @outlook.com or an @gmail.com email then that is yours for as long as you 
> want it and it makes no difference who your provider is. In Arnold's case I 
> see he is using als5...@gmail.com as the email address for this group, why 
> not just go to http://appleid.apple.com , sign in with whatever your current 
> Apple Id credentials are and then change the email address to that gmail 
> email address and you never have to worry about it again.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> The domaine for the email address I use for my ID  will be changing as of 
> November 1, so I have to  change my ID. After I do, will everything still 
> continue to work, being only that the email address I use will be different, 
> or will such things as Apple Music tell me that I am trying to use content 
> from another ID? I am just wanting to know what to expect before I wish I had 
> known. Thanks in advance for any information. 
> 
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when on a zoom call, can voiceover users use the chat within the zoom app?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
I am wondering if voiceover users can interact with the chat function when 
participating on a zoom call?
I am wondering because I have not yet been able to find a way to mute the voice 
is within the zoom call. I do not think I could possibly type and listen to 
chat with the presentation or discussion going.
If it is possible, can you please explain how this can be accomplished?
Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: Answering iPhone

[Richard Turner]

For many uses, Voice Control works fine with VoiceOver if you are using 
headphones.
Otherwise, there are some issues with it hearing VoiceOver and confusing it.
The bottom line in  this use case though is I do not think it will help for 
answering the phone.
I would like to be wrong about that.



Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Answering iPhone


Sorry gentle readers, this message was supposed to go to the entire group, must 
be a flaw in human software!




 Forwarded Message 
Subject:
Re: Answering iPhone
Date:
Wed, 21 Oct 2020 18:54:48 -0500
From:
doug parisian 
To:
Daniel MacDonald 



I have read several messages claiming voice control works poorly with 
voiceover.  In fact, this is logical when not using any external listening 
devices.  The mike is constantly listening and so may react in unexpected ways 
to a word or phrase spoken by Voiceover.



So, if you want/need to use voice control, do so with an external device with a 
microphone.  I love voice control for many situations and only wish it could be 
used to activate features of programs once opened.

On 2020-10-21 6:11 p.m., Daniel MacDonald wrote:
> Have you considered voice control? Since your client has some sight > it 
> could be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well > as I, and 
> others I presoom, would like. But for low vision users, > their is also Zoom 
> which from what people tell me, works quite well. > I am totally blind, so 
> cannot vouch for how well or not, Zoom works. > Daniel > > >> On Oct 21, 
> 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner >> 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> > >> 
> wrote: >> >> There is no speak command to answer the phone. There is an auto 
> >> answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to answer >> 
> whether he's by the phone or not. Not my first choice. Otherwise I >> think 
> voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where >> to touch his 
> finger and slide to answer without voiceover. Sadly, >> Siri will not read 
> emails. I suppose you could try turning on >> speak screen, but he would have 
> to be able to open the email >> first, and that does not sound possible. So I 
> would write Apple >> accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting 
> Siri to >> read emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from >> 
> the start and is stupid in my opinion that it does not. >> >> >> >> >> 
> Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which >> he 
> must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the >> cycle of 
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I >> have regretted 
> not granting grace to others, I’ve never once >> regretted extending it.)" - 
> Edward Herbert >> >>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat  >>> 
> > wrote: >>> >>>  Hi 
> Group, >>> >>> I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is 
> >>> also suffering from a mild case of dementia and he gets >>> overwhelmed 
> easily. He is using an iPhone 8 and I am very >>> reluctant to turn on voice 
> over. I think it will be too >>> difficult for him to remember the voiceover 
> commands. >>> >>> There are two immediate things that I want to accomplish 
> with >>> him using the Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if >>> 
> available. >>> >>> First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call 
> >>> without being able to see the screen. Second, we were able to >>> 
> successfully send an email message using the Hey Siri command. >>> Is there a 
> way to have Siri read and email message aloud. Every >>> time I ask Siri to 
> read my email messages, it only tells me the >>> name of the sender and the 
> subject line and does not read the >>> actual email message. >>> >>> Any help 
> is much appreciated. >>> >>> Mario >>> >>> >>> -- The following information 
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Fwd: Answering iPhone

[doug parisian]

Sorry gentle readers, this message was supposed to go to the entire 
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Subject:Re: Answering iPhone
Date:   Wed, 21 Oct 2020 18:54:48 -0500
From:   doug parisian 
To: Daniel MacDonald 



I have read several messages claiming voice control works poorly with 
voiceover.  In fact, this is logical when not using any external 
listening devices.  The mike is constantly listening and so may react in 
unexpected ways to a word or phrase spoken by Voiceover.



So, if you want/need to use voice control, do so with an external device 
with a microphone.  I love voice control for many situations and only 
wish it could be used to activate features of programs once opened.



On 2020-10-21 6:11 p.m., Daniel MacDonald wrote:
Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight  > it could be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well > 
as I, and others I presoom, would like. But for low vision users, > 
their is also Zoom which from what people tell me, works quite well. > I 
am totally blind, so cannot vouch for how well or not, Zoom works. > 
Daniel > > >> On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner >> 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> >> 
wrote: >> >> There is no speak command to answer the phone. There is an 
auto >> answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer >> whether he's by the phone or not. Not my first choice. 
Otherwise I >> think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can 
learn where >> to touch his finger and slide to answer without 
voiceover. Sadly, >> Siri will not read emails. I suppose you could try 
turning on >> speak screen, but he would have to be able to open the 
email >> first, and that does not sound possible. So I would write Apple 
>> accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to >> 
read emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from >> the 
start and is stupid in my opinion that it does not. >> >> >> >> >> 
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which >> 
he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the >> 
cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I >> 
have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once >> 
regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert >> >>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 
3:12 PM, mmmat >> > 
wrote: >>> >>>  Hi Group, >>> >>> I am working with an individual that 
is very low vision and is >>> also suffering from a mild case of 
dementia and he gets >>> overwhelmed easily. He is using an iPhone 8 and 
I am very >>> reluctant to turn on voice over. I think it will be too 
>>> difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands. >>> >>> There 
are two immediate things that I want to accomplish with >>> him using 
the Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if >>> available. >>> 
>>> First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call >>> 
without being able to see the screen. Second, we were able to >>> 
successfully send an email message using the Hey Siri command. >>> Is 
there a way to have Siri read and email message aloud. Every >>> time I 
ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the >>> name of the 
sender and the subject line and does not read the >>> actual email 
message. >>> >>> Any help is much appreciated. >>> >>> Mario >>> >>> >>> 
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RE: Answering iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Yes, using the wired earbuds would be the best way.

Sadly, the suggestion of Voice Control that someone made likely won’t work as 
there is no voice command for answer phone that I’ve found.
You may be able to say tap answer button, but you would have to hang up 
manually since voice control stops listening when you are on a call.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering iPhone

Hi,

One potential way to handle answering the phone could be to employ the Apple 
earbuds. If you are using them and the phone rings, you can press the centre of 
the control on the earbud cord. This will answer the phone call. The centre of 
that control is also the microphone so you can simply talk away on the call. To 
hang up you simply press the centre again after the call.

How feasible this will be depends on the individual wearing the earbuds with 
the phone. A more expensive option could be to use Air Pods which are bluetooth 
and provide a similar function. Other less expensive bluetooth headphone / 
microphone devices may also provide a similar function. With bluetooth you 
would not have to be physically tethered to the phone by a cord. However, you 
would need to consider what needs to be done to care for the bluetooth devices.

Yes, SIRI can send emails but sadly, as you say, won't read them to you. SIRI 
can send text messages and will read back any "new" (unread) text messages you 
have waiting. SIRI will ask if you wish to reply to a given text message it 
reads out.

If using Voiceover gestures presents difficulties, perhaps using the "voice 
command" feature of IOS would help. "Voice Command" used to work in conjunction 
with Voiceover but I have heard, but not confirmed, that under IOS 14.x, it no 
longer does. Still, this might be an option for issuing IOS system commands. 
Just a thought.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB
will

On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:12 PM, mmmat 
mailto:mmm...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi Group,

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

Any help is much appreciated.

Mario

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Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Mike B]

It was a focus issue.  Although I explored the screen several times somehow 
I either missed or it just popped up I found the download and install button 
right above the Home button.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed


Check your battery charge level



If the battery is less than 50% then you wont get the update started.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 6:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Hi Richard,



I'm sorry, I thought I corrected the iOS version to iOS14.1.  Anyways, we're 
running iOS14.0.1 and the iOS14.1 update button is dimmed on both our 
phones.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:25 AM

Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Hi Mike,

I have not heard about a 14.1.1 update, just 14.1.

Are you now on 14.1?

It just came out a day or two ago.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:58 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Howdy All,



Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.


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Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Dave Clement]

Hello, 

I am guessing here but perhaps the dimmed update button is due to the fact that 
the update is not yet available on your device. The "download and install" 
process is a two-step operation. First, the new update is downloaded to your 
device. Then, you are asked if you want to "install". You could, if you wanted, 
stop at this point and not install at that moment. I assume that once the 
update is downloaded to your device, the update button would no longer be 
dimmed since it would be ready to go. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Oct 21, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Mike B  wrote:


I got to playing around while on hold with Apple Accessibility and right above 
theHome button I found a download and install button.  This is weird because I 
tried exploring the screen earlier and didn't find this button.  I wonder why 
it still says the update button is dimmed?!

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Well, that is strange.
Try clearing out everything from the app switcher, rebooting, and see if it 
still shows as dimmed.
 
 
 
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
 
Live long and prosper 
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed
 
Hi Richard,
 
I'm sorry, I thought I corrected the iOS version to iOS14.1.  Anyways, we're 
running iOS14.0.1 and the iOS14.1 update button is dimmed on both our phones.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed
 
Hi Mike,
I have not heard about a 14.1.1 update, just 14.1.
Are you now on 14.1?
It just came out a day or two ago.
 
 
 
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
 
Live long and prosper 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:58 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: iOS14.1 Dimmed
 
Howdy All,
 
Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.

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Re: Answering iPhone

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

One potential way to handle answering the phone could be to employ the Apple 
earbuds. If you are using them and the phone rings, you can press the centre of 
the control on the earbud cord. This will answer the phone call. The centre of 
that control is also the microphone so you can simply talk away on the call. To 
hang up you simply press the centre again after the call. 

How feasible this will be depends on the individual wearing the earbuds with 
the phone. A more expensive option could be to use Air Pods which are bluetooth 
and provide a similar function. Other less expensive bluetooth headphone / 
microphone devices may also provide a similar function. With bluetooth you 
would not have to be physically tethered to the phone by a cord. However, you 
would need to consider what needs to be done to care for the bluetooth devices. 

Yes, SIRI can send emails but sadly, as you say, won't read them to you. SIRI 
can send text messages and will read back any "new" (unread) text messages you 
have waiting. SIRI will ask if you wish to reply to a given text message it 
reads out. 

If using Voiceover gestures presents difficulties, perhaps using the "voice 
command" feature of IOS would help. "Voice Command" used to work in conjunction 
with Voiceover but I have heard, but not confirmed, that under IOS 14.x, it no 
longer does. Still, this might be an option for issuing IOS system commands. 
Just a thought. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB
will 

On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:12 PM, mmmat  wrote:


Hi Group,
 
I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.
 
There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.
 
First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.
 
Any help is much appreciated.
 
Mario
 
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Re: Answering iPhone

[Daniel MacDonald]

Have you considered voice control? Since  your client has some sight it could 
be useful. Sadly, it does not work with VoiceOver as well as I, and others I 
presoom, would like. But for low vision users, their is also Zoom which from 
what people tell me, works quite well. I am totally blind, so cannot vouch for 
how well or not, Zoom works. 
Daniel


> On Oct 21, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> There is no speak command to answer the phone.
> There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
> answer whether he's by the phone or not.
> Not my first choice.
> Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
> to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.
> Sadly, Siri will not read emails.
> I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
> to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
> Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
> emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
> stupid in my opinion that it does not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Group,
>>  
>> I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also 
>> suffering from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He 
>> is using an iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think 
>> it will be too difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.
>>  
>> There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
>> Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.
>>  
>> First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being 
>> able to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email 
>> message using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and 
>> email message aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it 
>> only tells me the name of the sender and the subject line and does not read 
>> the actual email message.
>>  
>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>  
>> Mario 
>>  
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RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Simon A Fogarty]

Check your battery charge level

If the battery is less than 50% then you wont get the update started.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 6:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Hi Richard,

I'm sorry, I thought I corrected the iOS version to iOS14.1.  Anyways, we're 
running iOS14.0.1 and the iOS14.1 update button is dimmed on both our phones.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Hi Mike,
I have not heard about a 14.1.1 update, just 14.1.
Are you now on 14.1?
It just came out a day or two ago.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:58 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Howdy All,

Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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RE: Crochet and Knit Counter on the app store

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,

Just remember to duck if you start knitting the plant hanggers,

Although the wool should give you some minor protection.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 5:13 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Crochet and Knit Counter on the app store

Thanks Linda,
I am now retired, Wahoo!

I might decide to pick up knitting.  When I was in college, in the early 70’s, 
I learned to macramé and did quite a lot of plant hangers until there was no 
one left needing or wanting another plant hanger, grin.
I know a few blind knitters who I’m sure would give me lessons, but that will 
be a while thanks to the pandemic.

Take care,



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Lynda 
Ingraham
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Crochet and Knit Counter on the app store

Thank you very much for this app suggestion. Nothing worse in the phone ringing 
when you're trying to count.

If I remember, I think you told us all that you're going to be retiring you 
could start knitting and crocheting yourself. Men are the largest group of new 
knitters in crocheters and have been for several years.

Thanks again.

Many good wishes to you and retirement.

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

A friend just told me about this accessible row counter for the iPhone for 
those who knit or crochet.
Crochet and Knit Counter by J B van Asselt, free with in-app purchase
Description
:
Knit and Crochet Counter helps you keep track of the rows while you're working 
on your project.
Simply tap anywhere on the screen and track your rows, and don't worry about 
your screen turning off, as it will stay on while you are using the app.
Working on multiple projects simultaneously? No problem, just create multiple 
projects, and give each of them their own name.
Don't like the color theme of the app? Change it, there are many different 
options to choose from, and if you become a supporter of the app, the icon will 
also take on the color you select!
Prefer to work in silence? Use the option to turn of the tap-sound, easy!
Use the widget for maximum convenience!
Support for less then a yarn. $0.99
*Note: a friend says to name your projects, just double tap on the pencil icon.<
Crochet and Knit Counter on the App 
Store


Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
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Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
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Re: Creating email folders within the iPhone

[Mike B]

Try the following:

To Create a New folder in the iPhone Mail App:
1. Open the Mail App and single finger double tap the, Back button.

2. Swipe left to the, Edit button, and do a single finger double tap.

3. On the bottom right, select, New Mailbox.

4. You will now be in a edit for your new folder, so enter a name for your 
folder.

5. Swipe right to, Mailbox Location button, and do a single finger double 
tap.

6. Swipe right to a list of possible Mailboxes, arrow up / down to where you 
want to place it, and do a single finger double tap to place it there.

7.   Find the, Save button, and do a single finger double tap.
Now look in your folder list to find it.



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- Original Message - 
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To: Jim Portillo
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 1:48 PM
Subject: Creating email folders within the iPhone


Hello,

I was asked the following question and cannot seem to find it; although I 
remember doing this years ago!

How does one create folders within one’s email account on the iPhone? This 
person would like to move certain messages he gets into the created folder.

He’s using the native mail app on his phone with an iCloud account.

I have been hunting and hunting and can’t seem to find the answer.

Anyone know?

Jim




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Re: Answering iPhone

[Richard Turner]

There is no speak command to answer the phone.
There is an auto answer setting you can enable but that means it's going to 
answer whether he's by the phone or not.
Not my first choice.
Otherwise I think voiceover gesture is the only way unless he can learn where 
to touch his finger and slide to answer without voiceover.
Sadly, Siri will not read emails.
I suppose you could try turning on speak screen, but he would have to be able 
to open the email first, and that does not sound possible. So  I would write 
Apple accessibility as well as call them and ask about getting Siri to read 
emails. This is the one feature that it should've had from the start and is 
stupid in my opinion that it does not.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:12 PM, mmmat  wrote:


Hi Group,

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available.

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

Any help is much appreciated.

Mario


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Re: Creating email folders within the iPhone

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, open Mail. Choose the Back button until you are at the main list of 
mailboxes. Choose Edit at the top corner. Now, at the bottom of the 
screen, choose new folder. In the edit field, give it a name. Swipe to 
an unlabeled button and tap that to choose the location of this folder. 
That should do it. All you have to do now is choose Done to go back to 
the so-called normal mode.


I hope this helps.


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On 10/21/2020 3:48 PM, Jim Portillo wrote:

Hello,

I was asked the following question and cannot seem to find it; although 
I remember doing this years ago!


How does one create folders within one’s email account on the iPhone? 
This person would like to move certain messages he gets into the created 
folder.


He’s using the native mail app on his phone with an iCloud account.

I have been hunting and hunting and can’t seem to find the answer.

Anyone know?

Jim

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Re: question about backing up your iPhone via Itunes

[Kelly Pierce]

It is likely that a repair will require an iOS restore. This is
because the OS needs to recognize the new hardware component. In this
instance, a replaced speaker.  You should always do both an iCloud
backup and an iTunes backup, in the event one is corrupted. iTunes
backs up music, podcasts and videos. Check with NLS to learn if books
are ever backed up to iTunes or iCloud. I don’t have much downloaded
on the BARD app for this reason. I just download the books I am likely
to listen to in the next few months.

Kelly



On 10/21/20, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> Hi to all.  I had told you all in a previous message that the bottom
> speaker of my iPhone 8 just went out today for no reason.  I asked
> about sending my iPhone back for repairs as I've got apple care for
> $200 and still have quite a bit of time left on it.  Is it true if I
> send my iPhone back for repairs, they want me to completely wipe my
> iPhone clean?  If this is true, my iPhone isn't going anywhere.  I
> couldn't get all my bard books back on my iPhone if I wanted.  I do
> intend of getting a high capacity SD card that is a 256 gig SD card
> for about $40 and downloading or copying all the books from my iPhone
> to this SD card so I at least have the books.  Is it hard to do a
> backup via iTunes?  Is it better to use icloud?  Don't you have to
> have a lot of money to pay for gigs of space on ICLOUD?  Thanks for
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Answering iPhone

[mmmat]

Hi Group,

 

I am working with an individual that is very low vision and is also suffering 
from a mild case of dementia and he gets overwhelmed easily.  He is using an 
iPhone 8 and I am very reluctant to turn on voice over.  I think it will be too 
difficult for him to remember the voiceover commands.

 

There are two immediate  things that I want to accomplish with him using the 
Hey Siri command or any other speaking options if available. 

 

First is there an easy way to answer a incoming phone call without being able 
to see the screen.  Second, we were able to successfully send an email message 
using the Hey Siri command.  Is there a way to have Siri read and email message 
aloud.  Every  time I ask Siri to read my email messages, it only tells me the 
name of the sender and the subject line and does not read the actual email 
message.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

 

Mario 

 

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Re: Has anyone used Uber lately?

[Holly]

Kathy:

Thanks.  I didn't know about flicking up to open the tip options.  Makes 
sense now.


Thanks

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Re: Has anyone used Uber lately?

[Kathy Brandt]

I wish I had my phone next to me after completing a ride to make sure I’m 
telling you right, but, when I go back into Uber and a mask to Ray, I double 
tap on the one I wish, then go to add tip,, which is adjustable, flicking up. 
One of the choices is other amount, which you would go to the right after 
choosing that from the picker to write in the edit box. After entering in that 
you double tap on the done button, and then again on set tip. If using what is 
in the picker, you would hit I believe just the set tip button, and then done.

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Holly  wrote:
> 
> I have just started using Uber.  When I finished my ride last week, I doubled 
> tapped on 'add a tip', but just went to the rating page.  I couldn't see 
> where to enter the tip.
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Creating email folders within the iPhone

[Jim Portillo]

Hello,

I was asked the following question and cannot seem to find it; although I
remember doing this years ago!

How does one create folders within one's email account on the iPhone? This
person would like to move certain messages he gets into the created folder.

He's using the native mail app on his phone with an iCloud account.

I have been hunting and hunting and can't seem to find the answer.

Anyone know?

Jim

 

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Direct Touch and the MBraille app

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi all,

Is the direct touch issue still there in ios 14.1 when trying to use the 
MBraille standalone app? I am assuming no, but thought I would ask.

Thanks,

Chris

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Voicemail issue

[Jim Portillo]

I have absolutely no idea what happened, but when I updated my phone plan or
maybe when I updated my IOS version, my voicemail and mailbox got messed up,
and now I need to set it up again.

The problem is this.  I go to the setup button and it asks for a password.
In  the past, I've had a four digit password I've used, and when I've tried
entering it and hit the "done" button, it tells me that the particular
button is dimmed. I don't know how to proceed because it doesn't let me. Do
I need a larger numbered password or something different?

Can I set it up differently or from some place else?

I'm going to have the same issue when I get my 12 in a few days, but people
aren't able to leave me voice mails right now.

 

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RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Richard Turner]

You can thank the VoiceOver focus bug for that.
Hopefully, it will be better going forward.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed

I got to playing around while on hold with Apple Accessibility and right above 
theHome button I found a download and install button.  This is weird because I 
tried exploring the screen earlier and didn't find this button.  I wonder why 
it still says the update button is dimmed?!

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Well, that is strange.
Try clearing out everything from the app switcher, rebooting, and see if it 
still shows as dimmed.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Hi Richard,

I'm sorry, I thought I corrected the iOS version to iOS14.1.  Anyways, we're 
running iOS14.0.1 and the iOS14.1 update button is dimmed on both our phones.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Hi Mike,
I have not heard about a 14.1.1 update, just 14.1.
Are you now on 14.1?
It just came out a day or two ago.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:58 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Howdy All,

Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Mike B]

I got to playing around while on hold with Apple Accessibility and right 
above theHome button I found a download and install button.  This is weird 
because I tried exploring the screen earlier and didn't find this button.  I 
wonder why it still says the update button is dimmed?!

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed


Well, that is strange.

Try clearing out everything from the app switcher, rebooting, and see if it 
still shows as dimmed.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Hi Richard,



I'm sorry, I thought I corrected the iOS version to iOS14.1.  Anyways, we're 
running iOS14.0.1 and the iOS14.1 update button is dimmed on both our 
phones.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:25 AM

Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Hi Mike,

I have not heard about a 14.1.1 update, just 14.1.

Are you now on 14.1?

It just came out a day or two ago.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:58 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Howdy All,



Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
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Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Mike B]

I've tried that and still no go.  I'm going to call Apple Accessibility to 
see what they have to say.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed


Well, that is strange.

Try clearing out everything from the app switcher, rebooting, and see if it 
still shows as dimmed.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Hi Richard,



I'm sorry, I thought I corrected the iOS version to iOS14.1.  Anyways, we're 
running iOS14.0.1 and the iOS14.1 update button is dimmed on both our 
phones.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:25 AM

Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Hi Mike,

I have not heard about a 14.1.1 update, just 14.1.

Are you now on 14.1?

It just came out a day or two ago.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:58 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Howdy All,



Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Richard Turner]

Well, that is strange.
Try clearing out everything from the app switcher, rebooting, and see if it 
still shows as dimmed.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Hi Richard,

I'm sorry, I thought I corrected the iOS version to iOS14.1.  Anyways, we're 
running iOS14.0.1 and the iOS14.1 update button is dimmed on both our phones.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Hi Mike,
I have not heard about a 14.1.1 update, just 14.1.
Are you now on 14.1?
It just came out a day or two ago.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:58 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Howdy All,

Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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Re: iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Mike B]

Hi Richard,

I'm sorry, I thought I corrected the iOS version to iOS14.1.  Anyways, we're 
running iOS14.0.1 and the iOS14.1 update button is dimmed on both our 
phones.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed


Hi Mike,

I have not heard about a 14.1.1 update, just 14.1.

Are you now on 14.1?

It just came out a day or two ago.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:58 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: iOS14.1 Dimmed



Howdy All,



Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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Re: iCloud for Windows

[Paul Sandoval]

Hi Jenn,
I’m seeing this a bit late, but have you tried to repair Office? I’ve seen this 
problem before. I believe that’s what I had to do to get the error to stop.
Also Office 365.

> On Oct 11, 2020, at 7:44 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Yes I activated my Office version.
> 
> Marty,
> 
> We are talking about activating iCloud mail with Outlook which requires 
> iCloud for windows to run.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> I never got that message 
>> 
>> Have you activated your office version?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> jennie.fa...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Monday, 12 October 2020 4:37 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iCloud for Windows
>> 
>> How did you get it to work? I can't get passed the error that Microsoft 
>> Outlook is not the default mail client and can't perform the request. 
>> Evidently, Microsoft disability can't figure it out either. We tried for 
>> three hours yesterday. I am running windows 10 2004 and Office 365.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 6:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iCloud for Windows
>> 
>> My outlook works fine and I've been using Microsoft 365 as it's called now 
>> for some time.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, 11 October 2020 2:39 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iCloud for Windows
>> 
>> Has anyone really got the Outlook inbox thing to work with their PC and the 
>> latest office 365 subscription? It always give me an error about Outlook not 
>> being the default client. I know it is. Any helpwd be awesome!
>> 
>> Jenn 
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2020, at 4:34 PM, Andrew Roberts  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I would like to instal iCloud for Windows on my Windows 10 PC, even 
>>> though I appreciate it isn't all that accessible.  I have 3 reasons 
>>> for wanting to do this:-
>>> 
>>> First, I would like access to my iCloud inbox within Microsoft Outlook 
>>> Second, I would like access to both my iCloud calendar and my iCloud 
>>> contacts on my Windows PC And third, I would like access to my files on 
>>> iCloud drive on my Windows PC.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone please advise me whether I am best to download the version of 
>>> iCloud from the Apple website which is apparently for Windows 7 or Windows 
>>> 8, or whether I should download the Windows 10 app from the Microsoft 
>>> Store?  Whichever I download, is anyone able to advise the best way of 
>>> accessing the different options available in that programme?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks in advance for any help you can give.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
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RE: wired transfer of data from old to new iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Hi Vicky,
So, you do not have a WiFi network?
If not, I'd call Apple Accessibility and have them explain this wired transfer 
method.
I had never heard of it until someone asked about it recently.
I have that adapter for use with thumb drives.
Maybe I should connect my old SE 1st generation with my new SE 2020 and see 
what happens.
But, reading what you posted, it seems to me there are steps missing?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: wired transfer of data from old to new iPhone

I've read and reread this, and I just can't figure it out. But since my only 
internet is with my iPhone's personal hotspot, and seeing as I'm looking at 
getting the iPhone 12 Mini when it is available, I'm trying to figure out how 
to transfer my data to the new iPhone without using iTunes. Is the below saying 
that I actually need two Lightning to USB cables?

Here is the excerpt I'm talking about, although I believe the links in the 
article won't transfer as I copied this to my U2 Mini notetaker to send, taken 
from:

https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fen-us%2FHT210216data=04%7C01%7C%7C8dc23ec7cc3749e3e0f208d875e1fb1e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637388960718415644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=H%2FSR4jtCi%2FkccU98MEN%2Fo6GtDpHCSnQVrqtTrL42IDg%3Dreserved=0

Migrate data from your iPhone using a wired connection You might choose the 
wired method if the wireless network that you're using is slow or congested. To 
migrate data from one iPhone to another using a wired connection, get a 
Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter and a Lightning to USB Cable, then follow 
these steps:
Connect the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter to power through its Lightning 
port. Make sure to use a 12W or higher power adapter.
Connect the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter to your current iPhone.
Plug the Lightning to USB Cable into your new iPhone, then connect the other 
end to the adapter.
Continue by following the steps above.

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RE: iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Richard Turner]

Hi Mike,
I have not heard about a 14.1.1 update, just 14.1.
Are you now on 14.1?
It just came out a day or two ago.



Richard
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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:58 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: iOS14.1 Dimmed

Howdy All,

Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
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iOS14.1 Dimmed

[Mike B]

Howdy All,

Does Apple send the iOS14.1.1 update out in waves like MS sends Windows 10 
updates?  When I try to update to the 14.1 version all I get is the button 
reported as, Dimmed.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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wired transfer of data from old to new iPhone

[Vicky Collins]

I've read and reread this, and I just can't figure it out. But since my only 
internet is with my iPhone's personal hotspot, and seeing as I'm looking at 
getting the iPhone 12 Mini when it is available, I'm trying to figure out how 
to transfer my data to the new iPhone without using iTunes. Is the below saying 
that I actually need two Lightning to USB cables?

Here is the excerpt I'm talking about, although I believe the links in the 
article won't transfer as I copied this to my U2 Mini notetaker to send, taken 
from:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210216

Migrate data from your iPhone using a wired connection
You might choose the wired method if the wireless network that you're using is 
slow or congested. To migrate data from one iPhone to another using a wired 
connection, get a Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter and a Lightning to USB 
Cable, then follow these steps:
Connect the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter to power through its Lightning 
port. Make sure to use a 12W or higher power adapter.
Connect the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter to your current iPhone.
Plug the Lightning to USB Cable into your new iPhone, then connect the other 
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Continue by following the steps above.

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RE: need assistance

[anthonyborg001]

Oh yes it is on 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kellmast...@gmail.com
Sent: 18 October 2020 21:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need assistance

 

iPhone to iPhone is usually iMessage, is that on?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
anthonyborg...@gmail.com  
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: need assistance

 

Thanks for your advice Richard. 

 

Anthony 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 17 October 2020 17:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: need assistance

 

Check your settings under settings, messages and make sure everything is 
correct.

If that doesn’t work, then call Apple Accessibility.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
anthonyborg...@gmail.com  
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: need assistance

 

Hi debby 

 

This is happening when I come to reply to the same SMS that I get from another 
iphone. Sorry for my poor explanation. 

Regards 

 

Anthony 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: 17 October 2020 14:58
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: need assistance

 

Hi Anthony,

 

For folks to help, you didn’t quite give enough information. Is this happening 
when you text someone using an iPhone, or is it happening when you are texting 
to another type of phone, or both?

 

I think you may want to look at settings and messages. In there you can see 
what your settings for messages look like. For instance, if you can’t send to 
people who are not using an iPhone, then you want to make sure that “SMS” 
messaging is turn on.

 

I hope that helps some.

 

Take care and be safe!

 

Debby 

 

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anthonyborg...@gmail.com  
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: need assistance

 

Hi friends members. 

 

Can you please explain to me why evry time I try to send a text message it 
isn’t being delivered. Any assistance would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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RE: Sound distortion SE. 2020

[Richard Turner]

That is a drag.
Mine has worked flawlessly.
I hope they do replace your phone.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sound distortion SE. 2020

Turns out my phone is defective so it’s off to the shop it goes and then 
hopefully a replacement.

Just sharing in case others find the speaker in their new SE is not up to snuff.

Kim

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Kimberly Samco  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> My SE 2020 is a few months old and about a week ago the sound quality when 
> the phone is to my ear is horribly distorted.  Anyone else having this issue?
> 
> 
> Thanks,  Kim
> 
> 

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Re: Sound distortion SE. 2020

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Turns out my phone is defective so it’s off to the shop it goes and then 
hopefully a replacement.

Just sharing in case others find the speaker in their new SE is not up to snuff.

Kim

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Kimberly Samco  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> My SE 2020 is a few months old and about a week ago the sound quality when 
> the phone is to my ear is horribly distorted.  Anyone else having this issue?
> 
> 
> Thanks,  Kim
> 
> 

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Re: Crochet and Knit Counter on the app store

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Wow!  This is great!  

Thanks for letting us know about this!

Kim

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Linda,
> I am now retired, Wahoo!
>  
> I might decide to pick up knitting.  When I was in college, in the early 
> 70’s, I learned to macramé and did quite a lot of plant hangers until there 
> was no one left needing or wanting another plant hanger, grin.
> I know a few blind knitters who I’m sure would give me lessons, but that will 
> be a while thanks to the pandemic.
>  
> Take care,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> Live long and prosper 
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda 
> Ingraham
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Crochet and Knit Counter on the app store
>  
> Thank you very much for this app suggestion. Nothing worse in the phone 
> ringing when you're trying to count.
>  
> If I remember, I think you told us all that you're going to be retiring you 
> could start knitting and crocheting yourself. Men are the largest group of 
> new knitters in crocheters and have been for several years.
>  
> Thanks again.
>  
> Many good wishes to you and retirement.
>  
> Lynda
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A friend just told me about this accessible row counter for the iPhone for 
> those who knit or crochet.
> Crochet and Knit Counter by J B van Asselt, free with in-app purchase
> Description
> :
> Knit and Crochet Counter helps you keep track of the rows while you're 
> working on your project.
> Simply tap anywhere on the screen and track your rows, and don't worry about 
> your screen turning off, as it will stay on while you are using the app.
> Working on multiple projects simultaneously? No problem, just create multiple 
> projects, and give each of them their own name.
> Don't like the color theme of the app? Change it, there are many different 
> options to choose from, and if you become a supporter of the app, the icon 
> will also take on the color you select!
> Prefer to work in silence? Use the option to turn of the tap-sound, easy!
> Use the widget for maximum convenience!
> Support for less then a yarn. $0.99
> *Note: a friend says to name your projects, just double tap on the pencil 
> icon.<
> Crochet and Knit Counter on the App Store
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> Live long and prosper 
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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RE: Crochet and Knit Counter on the app store

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Linda,
I am now retired, Wahoo!

I might decide to pick up knitting.  When I was in college, in the early 70’s, 
I learned to macramé and did quite a lot of plant hangers until there was no 
one left needing or wanting another plant hanger, grin.
I know a few blind knitters who I’m sure would give me lessons, but that will 
be a while thanks to the pandemic.

Take care,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda 
Ingraham
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Crochet and Knit Counter on the app store

Thank you very much for this app suggestion. Nothing worse in the phone ringing 
when you're trying to count.

If I remember, I think you told us all that you're going to be retiring you 
could start knitting and crocheting yourself. Men are the largest group of new 
knitters in crocheters and have been for several years.

Thanks again.

Many good wishes to you and retirement.

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 21, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

A friend just told me about this accessible row counter for the iPhone for 
those who knit or crochet.
Crochet and Knit Counter by J B van Asselt, free with in-app purchase
Description
:
Knit and Crochet Counter helps you keep track of the rows while you're working 
on your project.
Simply tap anywhere on the screen and track your rows, and don't worry about 
your screen turning off, as it will stay on while you are using the app.
Working on multiple projects simultaneously? No problem, just create multiple 
projects, and give each of them their own name.
Don't like the color theme of the app? Change it, there are many different 
options to choose from, and if you become a supporter of the app, the icon will 
also take on the color you select!
Prefer to work in silence? Use the option to turn of the tap-sound, easy!
Use the widget for maximum convenience!
Support for less then a yarn. $0.99
*Note: a friend says to name your projects, just double tap on the pencil icon.<
Crochet and Knit Counter on the App 
Store


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

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Re: Crochet and Knit Counter on the app store

[Lynda Ingraham]

Thank you very much for this app suggestion. Nothing worse in the phone ringing 
when you're trying to count.

If I remember, I think you told us all that you're going to be retiring you 
could start knitting and crocheting yourself. Men are the largest group of new 
knitters in crocheters and have been for several years.

Thanks again.

Many good wishes to you and retirement.

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A friend just told me about this accessible row counter for the iPhone for 
> those who knit or crochet.
> Crochet and Knit Counter by J B van Asselt, free with in-app purchase
> Description
> :
> Knit and Crochet Counter helps you keep track of the rows while you're 
> working on your project.
> Simply tap anywhere on the screen and track your rows, and don't worry about 
> your screen turning off, as it will stay on while you are using the app.
> Working on multiple projects simultaneously? No problem, just create multiple 
> projects, and give each of them their own name.
> Don't like the color theme of the app? Change it, there are many different 
> options to choose from, and if you become a supporter of the app, the icon 
> will also take on the color you select!
> Prefer to work in silence? Use the option to turn of the tap-sound, easy!
> Use the widget for maximum convenience!
> Support for less then a yarn. $0.99
> *Note: a friend says to name your projects, just double tap on the pencil 
> icon.<
> Crochet and Knit Counter on the App Store
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> Live long and prosper 
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> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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Re: Adding the Favorites Bar to Safari?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Fazil,

Open Safari Settings. In the General section, there is a favorites button. 
Double-tap that and choose what you want displayed. That section also has a 
Frequently Visited Sites toggle switch. Try turning that on. I hope these 
settings display the information you want.

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 21, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, group.
> I have iPhone8 with iOS14.1.
> Is there such thing as ‘Favorites bar’?
> If yes, Can I add this to Safari? If yes, how can it be done, please?
> Thanks!
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Crochet and Knit Counter on the app store

[Richard Turner]

A friend just told me about this accessible row counter for the iPhone for 
those who knit or crochet.
Crochet and Knit Counter by J B van Asselt, free with in-app purchase
Description
:
Knit and Crochet Counter helps you keep track of the rows while you're working 
on your project.
Simply tap anywhere on the screen and track your rows, and don't worry about 
your screen turning off, as it will stay on while you are using the app.
Working on multiple projects simultaneously? No problem, just create multiple 
projects, and give each of them their own name.
Don't like the color theme of the app? Change it, there are many different 
options to choose from, and if you become a supporter of the app, the icon will 
also take on the color you select!
Prefer to work in silence? Use the option to turn of the tap-sound, easy!
Use the widget for maximum convenience!
Support for less then a yarn. $0.99
*Note: a friend says to name your projects, just double tap on the pencil icon.<
Crochet and Knit Counter on the App 
Store


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
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RE: Brother iPrint and Scan

[Richard Turner]

One of the reasons I like the Brother printers.
Enjoy,



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Brother iPrint and Scan

Morning Richard,

Well holy guacamole!  LOL  LOL  It worked just as you stated.  Thank you very 
much.
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:49 AM
Subject: RE: Brother iPrint and Scan

Hi Mike,
We have a similar model, MFC L2710DW and we did not need the app.
My wife followed the WiFi  setup that you do on the printer, then there is a 
button on the router that blinks and you press that, and wait until there is an 
OK button on the printer display, press that, and it prints a connection 
successful page.
After that, you select print from an app and hit find printer or whatever it is 
called, and the printer just shows up.
Hopefully, if that doesn’t work, there is a Brother help center number in the 
documentation.
HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Brother iPrint and Scan

Hi All,

We're running the SE 2020 2nd Gen iPhones, iOS 14.0.1 and we have a Brother 
MFC-L3770CDW laser all in 1.  I installed the Brother iPrint and Scan app, but 
I can't find the Settings tab or any other tab.  I'm stuck on the useage 
information page.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get off this page and get to 
Settings?  Or, should I be using a different app to print from our iPhhones?  
All help is gr eatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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RE: when are they going to fix voiceover

[davycuppens]

The focus bugs will only be fixed in ios14.2 because most items now are fixed 
in the public beta ios 14.2 b4. And before people start wining do not talk 
about betas, these are public betas so there is no reason not to mention about 
them.
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Cristóbal Muñoz
Verzonden: dinsdag 20 oktober 2020 21:02
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: when are they going to fix voiceover

iOS 14.1 was just released with the focus bug supposedly being fixed. 
Downloading it now.
We'll see...

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: when are they going to fix voiceover

You can write them at accessibil...@apple.com Or call them at 877-204-3930




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
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curmudgeon
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: when are they going to fix voiceover

good morning people
how do I contact Apple support, issues I have with the phone now are, cannot 
use redial command it goes to the search and it feels and gets stuck, one 
finger flick right or left can’t get you out of the area you have to move your 
finger down and then flipped left to get to the first message this happens when 
I use text messaging and email Second issue is when you open the folder used to 
take you to the first app now you have to flick left the first app in any 
folder stay safe and have a great day

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Re: Brother iPrint and Scan

[Mike B]

Morning Richard,

Well holy guacamole!  LOL  LOL  It worked just as you stated.  Thank you 
very much.
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:49 AM
Subject: RE: Brother iPrint and Scan


Hi Mike,

We have a similar model, MFC L2710DW and we did not need the app.

My wife followed the WiFi  setup that you do on the printer, then there is a 
button on the router that blinks and you press that, and wait until there is 
an OK button on the printer display, press that, and it prints a connection 
successful page.

After that, you select print from an app and hit find printer or whatever it 
is called, and the printer just shows up.

Hopefully, if that doesn’t work, there is a Brother help center number in 
the documentation.

HTH,





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Brother iPrint and Scan



Hi All,



We're running the SE 2020 2nd Gen iPhones, iOS 14.0.1 and we have a Brother 
MFC-L3770CDW laser all in 1.  I installed the Brother iPrint and Scan app, 
but I can't find the Settings tab or any other tab.  I'm stuck on the useage 
information page.



Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get off this page and get to 
Settings?  Or, should I be using a different app to print from our iPhhones? 
All help is gr eatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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Adding the Favorites Bar to Safari?

[Fazil]

Hi, group.

I have iPhone8 with iOS14.1.

Is there such thing as 'Favorites bar'?

If yes, Can I add this to Safari? If yes, how can it be done, please?

Thanks!

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RE: Brother iPrint and Scan

[Richard Turner]

Hi Mike,
We have a similar model, MFC L2710DW and we did not need the app.
My wife followed the WiFi  setup that you do on the printer, then there is a 
button on the router that blinks and you press that, and wait until there is an 
OK button on the printer display, press that, and it prints a connection 
successful page.
After that, you select print from an app and hit find printer or whatever it is 
called, and the printer just shows up.
Hopefully, if that doesn’t work, there is a Brother help center number in the 
documentation.
HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Brother iPrint and Scan

Hi All,

We're running the SE 2020 2nd Gen iPhones, iOS 14.0.1 and we have a Brother 
MFC-L3770CDW laser all in 1.  I installed the Brother iPrint and Scan app, but 
I can't find the Settings tab or any other tab.  I'm stuck on the useage 
information page.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get off this page and get to 
Settings?  Or, should I be using a different app to print from our iPhhones?  
All help is gr eatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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Brother iPrint and Scan

[Mike B]

Hi All,

We're running the SE 2020 2nd Gen iPhones, iOS 14.0.1 and we have a Brother 
MFC-L3770CDW laser all in 1.  I installed the Brother iPrint and Scan app, 
but I can't find the Settings tab or any other tab.  I'm stuck on the useage 
information page.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get off this page and get to 
Settings?  Or, should I be using a different app to print from our iPhhones? 
All help is gr eatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

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Fwd: Apple Watch series 4 random rebooting

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

> 
> I know the Series 3 watch has just had an update to deal with rebooting 
> issues, but my series 4 watch also randomly reboots! Yesterday the Activity 
> complication was just announcing that I’d completed 100% of my stand goal 
> when there was a sudden silence and I could make out the Apple logo on a 
> black screen. All silent, so I wouldn’t have known if I hadn’t noticed tgat 
> Apple logo. I’ve noticed such random rebooting a few times over the last 
> couple of months. Am I alone?
> Harry

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Creating A folder in Bookmark of Safari?

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

I have iPhone8 with iOS14.1.

Can I create a folder in Bookmark of Safari?

If yes, how can this be done, please?

Instructions are appreciated.

Thanks!

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iPhone 11 ProMax for sale, perfect condition

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> Since the new phones are coming out, I am selling last years model.  Never 
> been dropped, bumped, or scratched.  Had a screen protecter and case on it 
> entire time.  It’s the iPhone 11ProMax 256GB, was purchased sim free so it is 
> unlocked.  Asking 725 USD to the lower 48 states.  That includes shipping, 
> original box, charging brick and cable.  If interested email me at.


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RE: IOS 14.1 is out

[Les Kriegler]

Harry, I have not experienced the focus issue in Mail. I did with IOS 13, but 
no longer with version 14.
Best,

Les

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 2:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out


VoiceOver focus still jumps up the list when deleting threads in Mail on iPhone 
SE 2020 Harry

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 21:23, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> The focus bug does appear to be fixed (thank God), but it looks like the 
> dictation and text editing bugs are still present.
> 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, bugs, 
> and general fixes.
> Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.
> 
> For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that Apple 
> has resolved the most critical issues present in the initial releases of iOS 
> and iPadOS 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in today's releases.
> 
> Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 VoiceOver 
> focus is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and some apps.
> VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less responsive 
> when using some voices.
> VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such as 
> apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when editing the 
> App Library on iOS.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget buttons 
> when editing the Today View.
> New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 When 
> using the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, focus can 
> spontaneously move to the Home screen and it is then not possible to navigate 
> back to the Today View When editing a video in the Photos app, VoiceOver 
> users can no longer move the start and end positions on the time scrubber by 
> flicking up or down on them With VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to 
> right with three fingers in a folder takes you to the Today screen Because 
> iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 were not available to test before today's release, 
> we were not able to check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. 
> Consequently, it is very likely that there are additional fixes and possibly 
> more new bugs.
> 
> Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your own 
> use of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment below.
> 
> iOS 14.1 Release Notes
> Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the following 
> improvements:
> 
> Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for 
> iPhone 8 and later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and 
> icons were showing up in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an 
> issue where dragging widgets on the Home Screen could remove apps from 
> folders Fixes an issue where some emails in Mail were sent from an 
> incorrect alias Fixes an issue that could prevent incoming calls from 
> displaying region information Fixes an issue on some devices where 
> selecting zoomed display mode and an alphanumeric passcode could 
> result in the Lock Screen emergency call button overlapping with the 
> text input box Addresses an issue where some users were occasionally 
> unable to download or add songs to their library while viewing an 
> album or playlist Fixes an issue that could prevent zeroes from 
> appearing in Calculator Resolves an issue where streaming video 
> resolution could temporarily be reduced at the start of playback Fixes 
> an issue that prevented setting up a family member’s Apple Watch for 
> some users Resolves an issue where the Apple Watch case material was 
> displayed incorrectly in the Apple Watch app Addresses an issue in the 
> Files app that could cause some MDM-managed cloud service providers to 
> incorrectly display content as unavailable Improves compatibility with 
> Ubiquiti wireless access points
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 10/20/20, Gordon  wrote:
>> I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but 
>> you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might 
>> have been fixed in this release.
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RE: IOS 14.1 is out

[Simon A Fogarty]

Took less than 15 minutes on my iPad pro 11 inch

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 21 October 2020 1:34 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 14.1 is out

My install took patience. It seemed to take quite a while. 

Someone suggested getting Full Screen on another list. I can't understand 
where, someone said in phone, someone said Accessibility, someone said, "below 
Siri," I looked in Siri and below, as well as the others mentioned. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 14.1 is out

I’m downloading it now, but it's ironic that I hit the focus bug in the 
software updates screen, so it took some patience just to get the install going 
and then to monitor it's progress! 

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> The focus bug does appear to be fixed (thank God), but it looks like 
> the dictation and text editing bugs are still present.
> 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, 
> bugs, and general fixes.
> Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.
> 
> For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that 
> Apple has resolved the most critical issues present in the initial 
> releases of iOS and iPadOS 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in 
> today's releases.
> 
> Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 
> VoiceOver focus is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and 
> some apps.
> VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less 
> responsive when using some voices.
> VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such 
> as apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when 
> editing the App Library on iOS.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget 
> buttons when editing the Today View.
> New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 
> When using the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, 
> focus can spontaneously move to the Home screen and it is then not 
> possible to navigate back to the Today View When editing a video in 
> the Photos app, VoiceOver users can no longer move the start and end 
> positions on the time scrubber by flicking up or down on them With 
> VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to right with three fingers in a 
> folder takes you to the Today screen Because iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 
> were not available to test before today's release, we were not able to 
> check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. Consequently, it is 
> very likely that there are additional fixes and possibly more new bugs.
> 
> Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your 
> own use of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment 
> below.
> 
> iOS 14.1 Release Notes
> Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the 
> following
> improvements:
> 
> Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for 
> iPhone 8 and later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and 
> icons were showing up in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an 
> issue where dragging widgets on the Home Screen could remove apps from 
> folders Fixes an issue where some emails in Mail were sent from an 
> incorrect alias Fixes an issue that could prevent incoming calls from 
> displaying region information Fixes an issue on some devices where 
> selecting zoomed display mode and an alphanumeric passcode could 
> result in the Lock Screen emergency call button overlapping with the 
> text input box Addresses an issue where some users were occasionally 
> unable to download or add songs to their library while viewing an 
> album or playlist Fixes an issue that could prevent zeroes from 
> appearing in Calculator Resolves an issue where streaming video 
> resolution could temporarily be reduced at the start of playback Fixes 
> an issue that prevented setting up a family member’s Apple Watch for 
> some users Resolves an issue where the Apple Watch case material was 
> displayed incorrectly in the Apple Watch app Addresses an issue in the 
> Files app that could cause some MDM-managed cloud service providers to 
> incorrectly display content as unavailable Improves compatibility with 
> Ubiquiti wireless access points

Re: IOS 14.1 is out

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

VoiceOver focus still jumps up the list when deleting threads in Mail on iPhone 
SE 2020
Harry

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 21:23, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> The focus bug does appear to be fixed (thank God), but it looks like the 
> dictation and text editing bugs are still present.
> 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, bugs, 
> and general fixes.
> Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.
> 
> For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that Apple 
> has resolved the most critical issues present in the initial releases of iOS 
> and iPadOS 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in today's releases.
> 
> Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 VoiceOver 
> focus is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and some apps.
> VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less responsive 
> when using some voices.
> VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such as 
> apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when editing the 
> App Library on iOS.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget buttons 
> when editing the Today View.
> New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 When 
> using the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, focus can 
> spontaneously move to the Home screen and it is then not possible to navigate 
> back to the Today View When editing a video in the Photos app, VoiceOver 
> users can no longer move the start and end positions on the time scrubber by 
> flicking up or down on them With VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to 
> right with three fingers in a folder takes you to the Today screen Because 
> iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 were not available to test before today's release, 
> we were not able to check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. 
> Consequently, it is very likely that there are additional fixes and possibly 
> more new bugs.
> 
> Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your own 
> use of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment below.
> 
> iOS 14.1 Release Notes
> Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the following 
> improvements:
> 
> Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for iPhone 8 
> and later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and icons were 
> showing up in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an issue where 
> dragging widgets on the Home Screen could remove apps from folders Fixes an 
> issue where some emails in Mail were sent from an incorrect alias Fixes an 
> issue that could prevent incoming calls from displaying region information 
> Fixes an issue on some devices where selecting zoomed display mode and an 
> alphanumeric passcode could result in the Lock Screen emergency call button 
> overlapping with the text input box Addresses an issue where some users were 
> occasionally unable to download or add songs to their library while viewing 
> an album or playlist Fixes an issue that could prevent zeroes from appearing 
> in Calculator Resolves an issue where streaming video resolution could 
> temporarily be reduced at the start of playback Fixes an issue that prevented 
> setting up a family member’s Apple Watch for some users Resolves an issue 
> where the Apple Watch case material was displayed incorrectly in the Apple 
> Watch app Addresses an issue in the Files app that could cause some 
> MDM-managed cloud service providers to incorrectly display content as 
> unavailable Improves compatibility with Ubiquiti wireless access points
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 10/20/20, Gordon  wrote:
>> I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but 
>> you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might 
>> have been fixed in this release.
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