Re: Is it possible to read subtitles on IOS?

[Richard Turner]

Yes. And the setting is in a stupid place in my opinion.
Go to settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, Verbosity, Media Description.
The explanation says: Determines how Closed Captions + SDH are output during 
media playback.

When you double tap on it, you have I think none; braille, speech, and speech 
and braille.
HTH,

Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:09 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

Hi folks,
I need to watch a couple of documentary films which have some parts in foreign 
languages. These foreign languages sections are translated to English in the 
subtitles. Is there a way of reading the subtitles with voice over? These 
documentaries are available on youtube, amazon, and apple tv. If subtitles are 
accessible on any of these platforms please let me know.
I truly appreciate any help or advice.
Ibrahim


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Is it possible to read subtitles on IOS?

[Cris Ali]

Hi folks,
I need to watch a couple of documentary films which have some parts in foreign 
languages. These foreign languages sections are translated to English in the 
subtitles. Is there a way of reading the subtitles with voice over? These 
documentaries are available on youtube, amazon, and apple tv. If subtitles are 
accessible on any of these platforms please let me know.
I truly appreciate any help or advice.
Ibrahim


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Re: How to reset phone

[Kay Malmquist]

Yes, that is just what I want to do.  I thought I remembered where things 
were, but what I have discovered is that it has been locked down by a 
company and I think this is the problem.  We will call them in the morning 
to see what is up.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 1:06 PM
  Subject: RE: How to reset phone


  So, are you wanting to erase it and restore from an iCloud backup?









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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
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  I forgot to mention that it is a 2020 SE.


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  Subject: How to reset phone



  We have a phone that was set up by someone else.  What we want to know is 
how to reset the phone back to factory defaults.  It used to be easy but I'm 
not seeing an obvious answer in IOS 14.  We'd like to set it up from the 
cloud.  Hope this all makes sense.


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RE: Getting new iphone 12's

[Carolyn]

I turn off raise to wake, shake to undo, and, there is another one. I don't 
remember, but my phone can't come on without some help from me. I do have my 
screen where it never locks, so I have to be vigilant about that. 

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Wayne Merritt
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Subject: Re: Getting new iphone 12's

I would also recommend turning off Touch to Wake, under Accessibility, then 
Touch, in the Physical and Motor section of Accessibility.
Similar to Richard's suggestion of turning off the Raise to Wake function, 
Touch to Wake will turn on the phone each time it is touched, or tapped. Not 
good when the phone is in a pocket.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 7/28/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> When I had an iPhone 11 at work, I found Face ID was a great help.
>
> The trick for some blind users is knowing how to do the head movement 
> when setting it up since you have to imagine you are looking at the 
> center of a clock face, then turn your head/eyes up slightly to 12 and 
> then slowly but not too slowly, rotate to 3, 6, 9 and back to 12.  You 
> have to do that a couple of times but the VoiceOver feedback is excellent.
>
> Pay attention to the settings.
> You do not want Requires Attention on, because you have to be able to 
> look at it pretty much at the same angle you were when setting it up.  
> Not terribly useful.
> And right now, since I don't have a phone to refresh my memory on, 
> there is another one in that category where just glancing at the phone 
> will unlock it.
>
> You, of course, will have a passcode as well for times when Face ID 
> isn't working.
>
> I always recommend turning off Raise To Wake under Settings, Display 
> and Brightness.  It eats battery because every movement of the phone 
> wakes it up.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> danamariel...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 12:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Getting new iphone 12's
>
> We are getting two new i-phone 12's tomorrow.
> We are transitioning from SE 2020's thus this will be our first time 
> to have a phone with face ID.
> Both my husband and I are totally blind and have eye movement, thus 
> wondering is it advisable to set up face ID.
> Also we are pretty familiar of how to navigate without the home 
> button, but would be game for any suggestions anyone would give on 
> what we need to do differently on setting up our new phones.
> Dana
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RE: Getting new iphone 12's

[Carolyn]

Dana, I am totally blind. The guy at Wal-Mart, where I bought my 11 tried to 
set up facial ID on my phone. So, I went home, and on a bright and sunny 
afternoon, I went to the west side of our apartment and got it done. The phone 
walks you through it. It is a good thing to do on a bright day. 

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We are getting two new i-phone 12’s tomorrow.

We are transitioning from SE 2020’s thus this will be our first time to have a 
phone with face ID.

Both my husband and I are totally blind and have eye movement, thus wondering 
is it advisable to set up face ID.

Also we are pretty familiar of how to navigate without the home button, but 
would be game for any suggestions anyone would give on what we need to do  
differently on setting up our new phones.

Dana

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Re: Getting new iphone 12's

[Wayne Merritt]

I would also recommend turning off Touch to Wake, under Accessibility,
then Touch, in the Physical and Motor section of Accessibility.
Similar to Richard's suggestion of turning off the Raise to Wake
function, Touch to Wake will turn on the phone each time it is
touched, or tapped. Not good when the phone is in a pocket.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 7/28/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> When I had an iPhone 11 at work, I found Face ID was a great help.
>
> The trick for some blind users is knowing how to do the head movement when
> setting it up since you have to imagine you are looking at the center of a
> clock face, then turn your head/eyes up slightly to 12 and then slowly but
> not too slowly, rotate to 3, 6, 9 and back to 12.  You have to do that a
> couple of times but the VoiceOver feedback is excellent.
>
> Pay attention to the settings.
> You do not want Requires Attention on, because you have to be able to look
> at it pretty much at the same angle you were when setting it up.  Not
> terribly useful.
> And right now, since I don't have a phone to refresh my memory on, there is
> another one in that category where just glancing at the phone will unlock
> it.
>
> You, of course, will have a passcode as well for times when Face ID isn't
> working.
>
> I always recommend turning off Raise To Wake under Settings, Display and
> Brightness.  It eats battery because every movement of the phone wakes it
> up.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> danamariel...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 12:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Getting new iphone 12's
>
> We are getting two new i-phone 12's tomorrow.
> We are transitioning from SE 2020's thus this will be our first time to have
> a phone with face ID.
> Both my husband and I are totally blind and have eye movement, thus
> wondering is it advisable to set up face ID.
> Also we are pretty familiar of how to navigate without the home button, but
> would be game for any suggestions anyone would give on what we need to do
> differently on setting up our new phones.
> Dana
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Mac by the Bit (Session3) Simple basic navigation

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> Mac by the Bit, Session3, will start with some Basic navigation procedures.  
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> an iPhone that is. Showing you the built in tutorial, users guide, and how to 
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RE: Getting new iphone 12's

[Richard Turner]

When I had an iPhone 11 at work, I found Face ID was a great help.

The trick for some blind users is knowing how to do the head movement when 
setting it up since you have to imagine you are looking at the center of a 
clock face, then turn your head/eyes up slightly to 12 and then slowly but not 
too slowly, rotate to 3, 6, 9 and back to 12.  You have to do that a couple of 
times but the VoiceOver feedback is excellent.

Pay attention to the settings.
You do not want Requires Attention on, because you have to be able to look at 
it pretty much at the same angle you were when setting it up.  Not terribly 
useful.
And right now, since I don't have a phone to refresh my memory on, there is 
another one in that category where just glancing at the phone will unlock it.

You, of course, will have a passcode as well for times when Face ID isn't 
working.

I always recommend turning off Raise To Wake under Settings, Display and 
Brightness.  It eats battery because every movement of the phone wakes it up.

HTH,


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
danamariel...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting new iphone 12's

We are getting two new i-phone 12's tomorrow.
We are transitioning from SE 2020's thus this will be our first time to have a 
phone with face ID.
Both my husband and I are totally blind and have eye movement, thus wondering 
is it advisable to set up face ID.
Also we are pretty familiar of how to navigate without the home button, but 
would be game for any suggestions anyone would give on what we need to do  
differently on setting up our new phones.
Dana
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Getting new iphone 12's

[danamarieleet]

We are getting two new i-phone 12's tomorrow.

We are transitioning from SE 2020's thus this will be our first time to have
a phone with face ID.

Both my husband and I are totally blind and have eye movement, thus
wondering is it advisable to set up face ID.

Also we are pretty familiar of how to navigate without the home button, but
would be game for any suggestions anyone would give on what we need to do
differently on setting up our new phones.

Dana

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Re: How to reset phone

[Mike B.]

Hi Kay,

Go to Settings / General / Reset button and single finger double tab to 
open.

Swipe to find several options, the first being, Reset all settings, and the 
second being, Erase all content and settings.

I've never done this before so, I would assume the second option is what you 
want, but I would ask Apple Accessibility to be on the safe side.  Swipe 
through the other options just to see what's there just for the hell of it.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: How to reset phone


I forgot to mention that it is a 2020 SE.

Kay Malmquist
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Bob Proctor

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 12:49 PM
Subject: How to reset phone


We have a phone that was set up by someone else.  What we want to know is 
how to reset the phone back to factory defaults.  It used to be easy but I'm 
not seeing an obvious answer in IOS 14.  We'd like to set it up from the 
cloud.  Hope this all makes sense.

Kay Malmquist
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"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor


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RE: How to reset phone

[Richard Turner]

So, are you wanting to erase it and restore from an iCloud backup?




Richard
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I forgot to mention that it is a 2020 SE.

Kay Malmquist
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 12:49 PM
Subject: How to reset phone

We have a phone that was set up by someone else.  What we want to know is how 
to reset the phone back to factory defaults.  It used to be easy but I'm not 
seeing an obvious answer in IOS 14.  We'd like to set it up from the cloud.  
Hope this all makes sense.

Kay Malmquist
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Bob Proctor
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Instapot APP ALIVE AND WELL!!!

[doug parisian]

Yes, it's true, I just got an update for the instapot APP on my Iphone 8 
using the latest IO release 14.7.  Guess the instapot gang may have 
taken quite a beating over their unfortunate error of their ways. I 
doubt whether an angry bunch of blind apple folks alone tipped the 
balance. Maybe someone could check out the instapot social media links 
to see if they took a serious beating for their mistake. It would put a 
song in my heart to hear how David slew Goliath!


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Re: How to reset phone

[Kay Malmquist]

I forgot to mention that it is a 2020 SE.

Kay Malmquist
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: How to reset phone


We have a phone that was set up by someone else.  What we want to know is 
how to reset the phone back to factory defaults.  It used to be easy but I'm 
not seeing an obvious answer in IOS 14.  We'd like to set it up from the 
cloud.  Hope this all makes sense.

Kay Malmquist
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Bob Proctor

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How to reset phone

[Kay Malmquist]

We have a phone that was set up by someone else.  What we want to know is 
how to reset the phone back to factory defaults.  It used to be easy but I'm 
not seeing an obvious answer in IOS 14.  We'd like to set it up from the 
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Kay Malmquist
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Re: KeePass Touch app issue

[Alan Lemly]

Robin,

That is very good news. The developer needs to rewrite the help instructions 
because things have obviously changed with respect to accessing your Keepass 
database file stored in the cloud. Previously, I think only Dropbox was 
supported but I think Microsoft One Drive might also be supported now.

Glad you puzzled it out and connected again to your database.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of R Van 
Lant 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 11:36:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: KeePass Touch app issue


Alan,

I finally found how to add DropBox.  Not sure I could articulate how, but I 
found a place under the add button where I had to enable DropBox as an option, 
then navigate to it to find the file. Obviously, the Help file is way out of 
date.  I was not prompted for synching options, but found a place in the Gear 
icon where I could turn on auto-synching.  I’ll have to add a password on my 
laptop and see if it does sync to my phone.



Glad to be up and running again.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KeePass Touch app issue



Robin,



The Sync button is no longer there regardless of what the Help section says. My 
database is still accessed through the Files button and it is located in one of 
my Dropbox folders so hopefully you can access yours that way too. If not, 
hopefully you’ll get a reply to your support request.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KeePass Touch app issue



Alan,

I updated my app and see no difference.  The hep section still talks about a 
sync button and even that it should be the second button from  the left, but 
I’m not finding it.  I send them an email through the feedback link under 
Settings, We’ll see if they respond.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KeePass Touch app issue



Hi Robin,



I no longer see the sync button either on the bottomline toolbar. But I'm also 
running version 1.12 of Keepass Touch so you might check the App Store for the 
latest update. I'd suggest after you update that you check out the settings and 
you'll hopefully be able to reconnect to your master database on Dropbox.



Alan Lemly



Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of R Van 
Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 6:21:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: KeePass Touch app issue



Hi,

Question for others using the KeePass Touch app.  I’m on version 1.11.8 on and 
iphone SE 2020 running latest IOS.



I sync my password vault to my laptop with DropBox.  I’ve had this set up for 
almost a year.  I recently opened my KeePass Touch app and it showed that my 
master file had not been updated on my phone since around May.  I did not know 
how to update it, so I deleted the file, thinking I would just have  KeePass go 
out to DropBox and open the file, just as I’d done in the past.  Strangely, now 
I cannot find how to do this to save my life.  The help file says to click on 
the Sync button and even says it is the second from  the left, which is what I 
thought I’d done in t the past , but I cannot find the Sync button.  The app 
screen says to tap  the add button to open a file, but, when I do that, it’s 
showing me iCloud and I cannot find any way to navigate to DropBox.  I’m 
stumped.  Any one out there do this recently  and know what I could be missing?



Robin





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RE: KeePass Touch app issue

[R Van Lant]

Alan,
I finally found how to add DropBox.  Not sure I could articulate how, but I 
found a place under the add button where I had to enable DropBox as an option, 
then navigate to it to find the file. Obviously, the Help file is way out of 
date.  I was not prompted for synching options, but found a place in the Gear 
icon where I could turn on auto-synching.  I’ll have to add a password on my 
laptop and see if it does sync to my phone.

Glad to be up and running again.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KeePass Touch app issue

Robin,

The Sync button is no longer there regardless of what the Help section says. My 
database is still accessed through the Files button and it is located in one of 
my Dropbox folders so hopefully you can access yours that way too. If not, 
hopefully you’ll get a reply to your support request.

Alan

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KeePass Touch app issue

Alan,
I updated my app and see no difference.  The hep section still talks about a 
sync button and even that it should be the second button from  the left, but 
I’m not finding it.  I send them an email through the feedback link under 
Settings, We’ll see if they respond.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KeePass Touch app issue

Hi Robin,

I no longer see the sync button either on the bottomline toolbar. But I'm also 
running version 1.12 of Keepass Touch so you might check the App Store for the 
latest update. I'd suggest after you update that you check out the settings and 
you'll hopefully be able to reconnect to your master database on Dropbox.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of R Van 
Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 6:21:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: KeePass Touch app issue


Hi,

Question for others using the KeePass Touch app.  I’m on version 1.11.8 on and 
iphone SE 2020 running latest IOS.



I sync my password vault to my laptop with DropBox.  I’ve had this set up for 
almost a year.  I recently opened my KeePass Touch app and it showed that my 
master file had not been updated on my phone since around May.  I did not know 
how to update it, so I deleted the file, thinking I would just have  KeePass go 
out to DropBox and open the file, just as I’d done in the past.  Strangely, now 
I cannot find how to do this to save my life.  The help file says to click on 
the Sync button and even says it is the second from  the left, which is what I 
thought I’d done in t the past , but I cannot find the Sync button.  The app 
screen says to tap  the add button to open a file, but, when I do that, it’s 
showing me iCloud and I cannot find any way to navigate to DropBox.  I’m 
stumped.  Any one out there do this recently  and know what I could be missing?



Robin




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Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Duane Steele]

Sieghard and others, I don't know why I particularly like the home button. I 
guess I'm just old-fashioned, though I probably could get used to not having 
it. For the present, my phone's working fine since I unplugged the earbuds from 
the lightning port. I can't wait to get my new hearing aid that will connect 
directly with the ph0o. Perhaps that will work better in the long run. Thanks 
for all the advice concerning the sluggish behavior of my iPhone 8.


> 
> On Jul 28, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> When you say you like the home button I am curious whether you ever tried a 
> phone without the home button and if you did, was it just for a few minutes 
> or did you have a chance to really "use" it for maybe a day or two?
> I find that I don't miss the home button at all and that is the same thing I 
> hear from others who now have a phone without and let's face it, even the 
> iPhone SE 2020 with the guts which for the most part are those of an iPhone 
> 11 will be already two years old when the iPhone 13 is released and 
> eventually it's pretty safe to say you have to get an iPhone without home 
> button so why not get an iPhone 13 this fall and get used to it. That is at 
> least my 2 cents worth on that topic. To me that is a little bit like people 
> who have Windows 10 but install these shells which make it look like Windows 
> 7 which in my opinion is a real step back.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: July 28, 2021 8:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14
> 
> Barbara (and others)
> 
> Last Friday night, I upgraded to iOS 14.7. Richard, I like your sound advice, 
> and will probably upgrade to the SE 2020. I like having the home button. 
> 
> Now one more strange thing. I had plugged external earPod's, the ones that 
> used to come with the phone back in the good old days. I answered a call, and 
> the same thing happened at call's end. The phone became sluggish as it had 
> earlier. But when I removed the pods from the lightning port the phone worked 
> fine. It's working fine now or I wouldn't be answering this e-Mail. I reckon 
> it's time for a new phone.
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Barbara Stahl  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I also have an iPhone 8
>> What version of ios 14 did you upgrade to?
>> I have version 14.6 and everything works fine. I haven't yet upgraded to 
>> 14.7 or whatever the next version is. 
>> 
 On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello again, Listers,
>>> 
>>> After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
>>> latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day 
>>> brings some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or 
>>> reading and my phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone 
>>> suddenly becomes very slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to 
>>> keyboard commands using my BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is 
>>> shutting everything down. Makes me wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 
>>> update last summer. If anyone else has experienced this slow-down after 
>>> updating, how did you handle it? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: an iTunes purchase

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You have to contact Apple's iTunes Store support through the confirmation email 
and explain the issue and ask for refund, then purchase it again.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: July 27, 2021 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an iTunes purchase

Hello Listers,

The other night I went to purchase an item on iTunes that wasn't too expensive. 
I accidentally purchased it in HD instead of SD. Can I repurchase it in the 
lower quality version because streaming HD programming is difficult sometimes 
on my internet. If I could exchange the product, I would because it's the same 
price. Any ideas?


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I noticed that often in the past and typically if you rebooted your iPhone 
after an update with a wired headset connected you would experience this. You 
could fix it simply by unplugging the headset and then plugging it in again.
I have not experienced this for a while now and I don’t know if it is because I 
have an iPhone 11 now or if this was fixed in iOS 14, but I just updated to iOS 
14.7.1 last night with my Earpods plugged in and all was perfectly fine after 
the phone rebooted.

Anyways, it does not seem that is the issue which was described and it also 
seems that a reboot of the phone seems to have fixed it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: July 28, 2021 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

there is a long standing issue with phones becoming sluggish if wired earphones 
are used either when the phone boots up/reboots, and while on a phone call. I 
think that mostly impacted some older phones; I'm not sure.
Turning VoiceOver off and back on again, usually clears that one up.


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On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:17 AM, CHELA Robles 
mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I had to get an replacement iPhone 8 Plus because I had issues with my older 
8+ that I had for two or three years and they gave me another 8+ or and 
currently using it without sluggishness.
I’m running iOS 14.7.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:01 AM, Duane Steele 
mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Barbara (and others)

Last Friday night, I upgraded to iOS 14.7. Richard, I like your sound advice, 
and will probably upgrade to the SE 2020. I like having the home button.

Now one more strange thing. I had plugged external earPod's, the ones that used 
to come with the phone back in the good old days. I answered a call, and the 
same thing happened at call's end. The phone became sluggish as it had earlier. 
But when I removed the pods from the lightning port the phone worked fine. It's 
working fine now or I wouldn't be answering this e-Mail. I reckon it's time for 
a new phone.



On Jul 28, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Barbara Stahl 
mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I also have an iPhone 8
What version of ios 14 did you upgrade to?
I have version 14.6 and everything works fine. I haven't yet upgraded to 14.7 
or whatever the next version is.

On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Duane Steele 
mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello again, Listers,

After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day brings 
some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or reading and my 
phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone suddenly becomes very 
slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to keyboard commands using my 
BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting everything down. Makes me 
wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last summer. If anyone else has 
experienced this slow-down after updating, how did you handle it? Thanks in 
advance for any suggestions.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When you say you like the home button I am curious whether you ever tried a 
phone without the home button and if you did, was it just for a few minutes or 
did you have a chance to really "use" it for maybe a day or two?
I find that I don't miss the home button at all and that is the same thing I 
hear from others who now have a phone without and let's face it, even the 
iPhone SE 2020 with the guts which for the most part are those of an iPhone 11 
will be already two years old when the iPhone 13 is released and eventually 
it's pretty safe to say you have to get an iPhone without home button so why 
not get an iPhone 13 this fall and get used to it. That is at least my 2 cents 
worth on that topic. To me that is a little bit like people who have Windows 10 
but install these shells which make it look like Windows 7 which in my opinion 
is a real step back.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: July 28, 2021 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

Barbara (and others)

Last Friday night, I upgraded to iOS 14.7. Richard, I like your sound advice, 
and will probably upgrade to the SE 2020. I like having the home button. 

Now one more strange thing. I had plugged external earPod's, the ones that used 
to come with the phone back in the good old days. I answered a call, and the 
same thing happened at call's end. The phone became sluggish as it had earlier. 
But when I removed the pods from the lightning port the phone worked fine. It's 
working fine now or I wouldn't be answering this e-Mail. I reckon it's time for 
a new phone.


> 
> On Jul 28, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> I also have an iPhone 8
> What version of ios 14 did you upgrade to?
> I have version 14.6 and everything works fine. I haven't yet upgraded to 14.7 
> or whatever the next version is. 
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello again, Listers,
>> 
>> After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
>> latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day 
>> brings some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or 
>> reading and my phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone 
>> suddenly becomes very slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to 
>> keyboard commands using my BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting 
>> everything down. Makes me wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last 
>> summer. If anyone else has experienced this slow-down after updating, how 
>> did you handle it? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume you have rebooted your phone a second time since you updated?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: July 28, 2021 6:18 AM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

Hello again, Listers,

After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day brings 
some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or reading and my 
phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone suddenly becomes very 
slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to keyboard commands using my 
BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting everything down. Makes me 
wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last summer. If anyone else has 
experienced this slow-down after updating, how did you handle it? Thanks in 
advance for any suggestions.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: offloaded unused apps to improve storage but wondering where they went

[Sieghard Weitzel]

According to what I read the icon stays on your home screen and is greyed out 
and if you tap it the app redownloads:

If you’re unsure about whether or not you’ll use an app again in the future, no 
worries; the apps aren’t actually deleted permanently from your phone. All your 
data and documents will remain on your device—and the apps themselves just turn 
into grayed-out icons on your home screen—making it easy to re-download and 
jump back in whenever you want to. Also, if you don’t want your phone to 
automatically delete certain apps (even if you don’t use them a lot), you can 
set the offload function for certain ones.

If you decide you want to use an app that’s been offloaded, just tap the 
grayed-out icon and it will re-download, with all your info still there 
(assuming the app is still available in the app store).


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: July 27, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: offloaded unused apps to improve storage but wondering where they went

Hi in an effort to free up some space on my phone I turned on offload unused 
apps but wondering where I can find the unused apps that were offloaded from my 
phone.  
Are they in a folder or somewhere and how do I get them all to come back if I 
need or want them.
Jen

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RE: TV in the lockou screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe try Apple Accessibility to see if they can help

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: July 27, 2021 6:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TV in the lockou screen

Hi again, Richard,

I tried your suggestion with no results. What happens is that the TV video I'm 
listening to plays on the locked screen for about two minutes. Tapping the home 
screen does nothing at all, and unlocking the screen doesn't even show that the 
video's been playing until I completely unlock the phone. On the new phone, it 
plays just fine, but on my iPhone 6, I just have to play it without locking the 
screen at all, which is too bad, because I think that really does conserve 
battery life.


On Jul 26, 2021, at 7:33 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
 Once you find it stopped, try tapping the home button if you can without 
actually unlocking it, then do the two finger double tap; and see if it starts 
playing again.
I have to do that even with my newer SE 2020 with apps like Disney plus.
HTH,


Richard
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On Jul 26, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
Hello Listers,

I have an old iPhone 6 I use sometimes for TV and music. When I try to listen 
to a program in the locked screen position, it cuts off after two minutes, 
while the newer phone works just fine. Does this mean I can only use the locked 
screen with later iPhone updates? The older unit is only able to update to the 
latest vertion of iOS 12. Just wondering.


Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Richard Turner]

there is a long standing issue with phones becoming sluggish if wired earphones 
are used either when the phone boots up/reboots, and while on a phone call. I 
think that mostly impacted some older phones; I'm not sure.
Turning VoiceOver off and back on again, usually clears that one up.



Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:17 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:

I had to get an replacement iPhone 8 Plus because I had issues with my older 
8+ that I had for two or three years and they gave me another 8+ or and 
currently using it without sluggishness.
I’m running iOS 14.7.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:01 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

Barbara (and others)

Last Friday night, I upgraded to iOS 14.7. Richard, I like your sound advice, 
and will probably upgrade to the SE 2020. I like having the home button.

Now one more strange thing. I had plugged external earPod's, the ones that used 
to come with the phone back in the good old days. I answered a call, and the 
same thing happened at call's end. The phone became sluggish as it had earlier. 
But when I removed the pods from the lightning port the phone worked fine. It's 
working fine now or I wouldn't be answering this e-Mail. I reckon it's time for 
a new phone.



On Jul 28, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Barbara Stahl  
wrote:

I also have an iPhone 8
What version of ios 14 did you upgrade to?
I have version 14.6 and everything works fine. I haven't yet upgraded to 14.7 
or whatever the next version is.

On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

Hello again, Listers,

After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day brings 
some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or reading and my 
phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone suddenly becomes very 
slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to keyboard commands using my 
BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting everything down. Makes me 
wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last summer. If anyone else has 
experienced this slow-down after updating, how did you handle it? Thanks in 
advance for any suggestions.


Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[CHELA Robles]

I had to get an replacement iPhone 8 Plus because I had issues with my older 8+ 
that I had for two or three years and they gave me another 8+ or and currently 
using it without sluggishness.
I’m running iOS 14.7.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:01 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Barbara (and others)
> 
> Last Friday night, I upgraded to iOS 14.7. Richard, I like your sound advice, 
> and will probably upgrade to the SE 2020. I like having the home button. 
> 
> Now one more strange thing. I had plugged external earPod's, the ones that 
> used to come with the phone back in the good old days. I answered a call, and 
> the same thing happened at call's end. The phone became sluggish as it had 
> earlier. But when I removed the pods from the lightning port the phone worked 
> fine. It's working fine now or I wouldn't be answering this e-Mail. I reckon 
> it's time for a new phone.
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Barbara Stahl  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I also have an iPhone 8
>> What version of ios 14 did you upgrade to?
>> I have version 14.6 and everything works fine. I haven't yet upgraded to 
>> 14.7 or whatever the next version is. 
>> 
 On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello again, Listers,
>>> 
>>> After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
>>> latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day 
>>> brings some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or 
>>> reading and my phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone 
>>> suddenly becomes very slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to 
>>> keyboard commands using my BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is 
>>> shutting everything down. Makes me wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 
>>> update last summer. If anyone else has experienced this slow-down after 
>>> updating, how did you handle it? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Duane Steele]

Barbara (and others)

Last Friday night, I upgraded to iOS 14.7. Richard, I like your sound advice, 
and will probably upgrade to the SE 2020. I like having the home button. 

Now one more strange thing. I had plugged external earPod's, the ones that used 
to come with the phone back in the good old days. I answered a call, and the 
same thing happened at call's end. The phone became sluggish as it had earlier. 
But when I removed the pods from the lightning port the phone worked fine. It's 
working fine now or I wouldn't be answering this e-Mail. I reckon it's time for 
a new phone.


> 
> On Jul 28, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> I also have an iPhone 8
> What version of ios 14 did you upgrade to?
> I have version 14.6 and everything works fine. I haven't yet upgraded to 14.7 
> or whatever the next version is. 
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello again, Listers,
>> 
>> After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
>> latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day 
>> brings some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or 
>> reading and my phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone 
>> suddenly becomes very slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to 
>> keyboard commands using my BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting 
>> everything down. Makes me wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last 
>> summer. If anyone else has experienced this slow-down after updating, how 
>> did you handle it? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Barbara Stahl]

I also have an iPhone 8
What version of ios 14 did you upgrade to? 
I have version 14.6 and everything works fine. I haven't yet upgraded to 14.7 
or whatever the next version is. 

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Hello again, Listers,
> 
> After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
> latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day 
> brings some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or 
> reading and my phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone 
> suddenly becomes very slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to 
> keyboard commands using my BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting 
> everything down. Makes me wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last 
> summer. If anyone else has experienced this slow-down after updating, how did 
> you handle it? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Richard Turner]

Dwayne,
Making that phone an iPod like device probably makes sense.

There have been technically 5 phone models since the 8.  The 10, the 10s or 
whatever they called it, the 11, the SE 2020, and the 12.
If you love the home button, consider waiting to see what they do with the 
iPhone 13 this fall, and if it doesn't have a touch sensitive place on the 
screen to simulate the home button; consider the SE 2020.  It has the same guts 
as the 11, and is my current phone of choice.
I'm considering, actually planning, on the 13 unless there is some strong 
reason against it.

The SE 2020 is the same size as your 8.

HTH,

Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

Thanks again, Richard for your wisdom. I've shut down the phone and that helps. 
But the next time, I'll try the reboot instead. If all else fails, I'll try 
resetting my network settings. All this makes me frightened of my next upgrade, 
and, since my phone's working well otherwise, I'm reluctant to get a new phone 
altogether. We'll see what happens. Perhaps it's time to relegate my iPhone 8 
to a kind of iPod to replace that iPhone 6 I couldn't get to play TV shows on 
the locked screen. LOL Have a great day.
 

> 
> On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you may want to try a Reset Network Settings.
> You won't lose any data, you will have to log in again to things like Wi-Fi 
> and any VPN's if you use them, which I don't so not sure about that one.
> 
> I'm trying to get myself to think of the iPhone as a hand-held computer that 
> happens to also make phone calls.  Computers get into a state when you have 
> to do a reboot, and I am guessing you already did the standard reboot of 
> holding the power button and the home button down at the same time for about 
> 6 to 10 seconds until the Apple comes back.  If you haven't done that, try 
> that first.  
> If it is still a problem, try the Reset network settings under Settings, 
> General, Reset.
> Avoid the one that says reset all settings, and especially the one that says 
> erase data and reboot or whatever it says.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 6:18 AM
> To: IPhone List 
> Subject: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14
> 
> Hello again, Listers,
> 
> After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
> latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day 
> brings some new issue. Today's issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or 
> reading and my phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone 
> suddenly becomes very slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to 
> keyboard commands using my BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting 
> everything down. Makes me wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last 
> summer. If anyone else has experienced this slow-down after updating, how did 
> you handle it? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Duane Steele]

Thanks again, Richard for your wisdom. I've shut down the phone and that helps. 
But the next time, I'll try the reboot instead. If all else fails, I'll try 
resetting my network settings. All this makes me frightened of my next upgrade, 
and, since my phone's working well otherwise, I'm reluctant to get a new phone 
altogether. We'll see what happens. Perhaps it's time to relegate my iPhone 8 
to a kind of iPod to replace that iPhone 6 I couldn't get to play TV shows on 
the locked screen. LOL Have a great day.
 

> 
> On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you may want to try a Reset Network Settings.
> You won't lose any data, you will have to log in again to things like Wi-Fi 
> and any VPN's if you use them, which I don't so not sure about that one.
> 
> I'm trying to get myself to think of the iPhone as a hand-held computer that 
> happens to also make phone calls.  Computers get into a state when you have 
> to do a reboot, and I am guessing you already did the standard reboot of 
> holding the power button and the home button down at the same time for about 
> 6 to 10 seconds until the Apple comes back.  If you haven't done that, try 
> that first.  
> If it is still a problem, try the Reset network settings under Settings, 
> General, Reset.
> Avoid the one that says reset all settings, and especially the one that says 
> erase data and reboot or whatever it says.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 6:18 AM
> To: IPhone List 
> Subject: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14
> 
> Hello again, Listers,
> 
> After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
> latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day 
> brings some new issue. Today's issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or 
> reading and my phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone 
> suddenly becomes very slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to 
> keyboard commands using my BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting 
> everything down. Makes me wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last 
> summer. If anyone else has experienced this slow-down after updating, how did 
> you handle it? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
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Re: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Gerardo Corripio]

Not at all. I've heard of others with iPhone 8 who are using the update just 
fine. So you don't have to always be restarting the whole thing, just turn off 
wait a few seconds, and turn VoiceOver on again. Hope this helps!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 28 jul 2021, a la(s) 8:18 a.m., Duane Steele  
> escribió:
> 
> Hello again, Listers,
> 
> After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
> latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day 
> brings some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or 
> reading and my phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone 
> suddenly becomes very slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to 
> keyboard commands using my BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting 
> everything down. Makes me wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last 
> summer. If anyone else has experienced this slow-down after updating, how did 
> you handle it? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
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RE: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like you may want to try a Reset Network Settings.
You won't lose any data, you will have to log in again to things like Wi-Fi and 
any VPN's if you use them, which I don't so not sure about that one.

I'm trying to get myself to think of the iPhone as a hand-held computer that 
happens to also make phone calls.  Computers get into a state when you have to 
do a reboot, and I am guessing you already did the standard reboot of holding 
the power button and the home button down at the same time for about 6 to 10 
seconds until the Apple comes back.  If you haven't done that, try that first.  
If it is still a problem, try the Reset network settings under Settings, 
General, Reset.
Avoid the one that says reset all settings, and especially the one that says 
erase data and reboot or whatever it says.

HTH,


Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 6:18 AM
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Subject: iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

Hello again, Listers,

After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day brings 
some new issue. Today's issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or reading and my 
phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone suddenly becomes very 
slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to keyboard commands using my 
BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting everything down. Makes me 
wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last summer. If anyone else has 
experienced this slow-down after updating, how did you handle it? Thanks in 
advance for any suggestions.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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iPhone 8 sluggish after phone calls in iOS 14

[Duane Steele]

Hello again, Listers,

After hesitating a long, long time, I finally upgraded my iPhone 8 to the 
latest iOS 14. Since last Friday night when I took the plunge, each day brings 
some new issue. Today’s issue is this: If I'm checking e-mail or reading and my 
phone rings, I answer and when the call ends, my phone suddenly becomes very 
slow in responding to gestures on the screen and to keyboard commands using my 
BrailleEdge. So far, my only recourse is shutting everything down. Makes me 
wish I'd stayed with the last iOS 13 update last summer. If anyone else has 
experienced this slow-down after updating, how did you handle it? Thanks in 
advance for any suggestions.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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