RE: Startup and shutdown sound on iPhone 14

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Where did you hear the startup and shutdown sounds are also available on the 
regular iPhone 14?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 4:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Startup and shutdown sound on iPhone 14

Hello list
I am a bit confused because at first I heard that these sounds and vibration 
would be available only on the pro and max but now it sounds as if the plain 
iPhone 14 has them too. Can someone please clarify?
Regards
Fanus


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RE: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can either just double tap the message and then use the rotor which when a 
message thread is open has a "Messages" feature and if you turn it to messages 
and then flick down with one finger it will go to the next message (or the 
previous if you flick up).
You can also turn the rotor before you open the message and select the "expand" 
option which then expands the thread and you can flick left and right just as 
if they were individual emails.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

Hi, Group.
I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.
I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.
How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?
Am I supposed to expend each message individually?
Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages are 
collapsed within a collapsed thread.
Any help is much appreciated regarding solving this riddle.
Thanks!
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RE: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The sE first Gen was released in March 2016 I believe and it had the same 
processor and such as the 6S so it is no longer compatible with iOS 16.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:56 AM
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Subject: RE: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

Oh sorry, i forgot to mention it, it is se first generation. Thank you for your 
reply and the confirmation.
Best



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 28 September 2022 14:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

When you say the iPhone, * first generation*, are you referring to the SE2016?  
If so, mine would only update to iOS15.7 and no further.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Subject: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

Hi

Can anyone tell me if the iphone first generation has been updated with IOS 16 
please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony
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RE: Connecting K780 keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is a slider switch on the right side, if it's towards the back of the 
keyboard it is on.
The easy switch keys are F1, F2 and F3 and you have to press and  hold them for 
I think 5 seconds or a bit longer to start pairing mode. Once you press and 
hold them for 5 or 6 or maybe 8 seconds just check in Settings > Bluetooth on 
your ipHone and see if it is listed at the bottom of y our devices.


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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Connecting K780 keyboard

I've had this keyboard for quite a while and haven't been able to achieve blue 
tooth pairing with my iPhone.  I downloaded the pdf manual, and it's not very 
helpful.  I don't know how to turn the keyboard on, nor do I know what the easy 
switch keys are.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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RE: Talking scale

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I bought my cup and spoon sets from Blind Mice Mart. I believe they also have 
the bowl set.

Regarding the talking scale thing… I guess I’m just snake bit when it comes to 
My Weigh. Those scales give out on me in a matter of days whenever I try to use 
them. From what I recall and someone who’s using them can chime in, those scale 
can only weigh to the gram. That might be an issue depending on the level of 
accuracy you’re looking for too. Also, The audio feedback was kind of lagging. 
Not an issue for most things, but for coffee pour overs and Aeropresses and 
such, latency or the lack of real time feedback becomes a factor. 

When this topic’s come up before, I’ve always recommended the DropScale from 
Drop company now rebranded as Fresco. Checking them out though, it seems 
they’re no longer selling that scale anymore. Fresco’s partnered with bigger 
appliance brands like GE, Kenwood and Instant Brands and Bosch instead it looks 
like. Too bad. The dropscale’s a good little Bluetooth scale. 

In any event. I recently got a Reflex kitchen scale as it too is one that’s 
been brought up on this list as an accessible option. Playing around with it, 
It’s accessible enough. It seems the company has a million apps for every 
possible function. The most accessible one for VoiceOver users though is 
probably the “Just Scale” app. One annoying thing about it is that you have to 
sign up to use the scale (thank you hide my email Apple). 

One difference between the dropscale and this scale is that with the dropscale, 
you could place VoiceOver focus on the element where the weight would be spoke 
and VO would speak it in real time. It was pretty responsive with very little 
latency if any to make a difference. Again, probably not a huge dealbreaker for 
most things, but for coffee brewing recipes, every milliliter counts. The 
Reflex scale on the other hand has a separate talking function from within the 
app that you can adjust (selecting voice/speed) that will announce the weight 
as well. It’s advertised as an accessibility feature for the visually impaired, 
but it feels gimmicky. I’ve got the app voice playback speed cranked to 100%, 
but no matter how fast it speaks the weight, it doesn’t give me the readings 
fast enough or as close to when they are occurring to keep a current snapshot 
of where I am in my pour for example. Again, I’m a coffee geek so for me and in 
my circumstance, this is an issue, but it may not be for others. Unfortunately, 
none of the Reflex apps seem to have the ability to have VoiceOver speak the 
readings of the weight fluctuations by simply placing VO on that element. The 
dropscale has the reflex scale beat in this regard hands down. I will say 
though, connectivity with the Reflex app is super-fast. Not that connecting to 
the dropscale was an exercise in patience, but concerns about hassling with 
having to connect with a scale etc. really are no big deal. I would also add 
that both these scales weigh to the tenth of the gram. 

There are other Bluetooth apps advertised on Amazon ranging from around $12 to 
$40 or so. I’m tempted to try another one. Mainly, something that would allow 
VoiceOver to speak the measurement readings like the dropscale. I’ve had this 
thing for over four years now, but like all Internet connected things, they 
won’t last forever or at least their apps won’t. 

A few weeks ago, I also posted an inquiry regarding the Acaia bluetooth 
espresso scales and if anyone had experience with them. These are ridiculously 
expensive scales used to measure out espresso shots and pour overs (everyone’s 
got their hobby). Reflex has a pretty small 500gram scale that might work for 
the type of mannual espresso machine I’m looking to get, but it might be just a 
centimeter or two too big. That and again, the latency for measuring out a shot 
would probably be a dealbreaker anyway. So if anyone knows of a super small 
bluetooth kitchen scale that can weigh to the tenth of the gram and has minimal 
VoiceOver latency feedback, I’d like to know as well… 

If you don’t have to worry about real time measurement readings against a timer 
or anything like that, then the Reflex scales would probably check a lot of 
boxes for you. I believe they were even going to come out with a 33 LBS model, 
but not sure about that now.

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking scale

 

Hi Richard,

 

I have their 9-cup set and also the measuring spoon set and they are very nice. 
Just looking on their website they do mention Maxiaids on their website under 
online sellers, but not Amazon at all. I also saw only one place in Canada, but 
I wonder if that is more of a wholesaler/distributor who then sells to smaller 
resellers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard 

Alternative to Flicktype

[tai.tomasi8]

I know that the FlickType app has been discontinued. I thought Apple built
in a feature similar to typing with FlicType where you could tap in the
approximate location  of multiple letters and the iPhone would predict the
word you are typing. Does this exist? If so, what feature is it? 

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Reading Collapsed Email Messages with Native Mail Client?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I am using native email-client of my iPhone8. I have iOS16.1.

I am looking for a reliable strategy of reading collapsed email.

How can I read a thread of six emails in a collapsed message?

Am I supposed to expend each message individually?

Sometimes the thread of collapsed messages is nested, I mean that messages
are collapsed within a collapsed thread.

Any help is much appreciated regarding solving this riddle.

Thanks!

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RE: Keyboard access and braille display

[michv]

Hi Kelly from what I have found when I am using a braille display with my I 
phone it seems that all the funktions of the phone go to the braille display 
and touching the phone doesn't do anything. I found it really confusing. But 
that is the way it works. From Mich.

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Sent: September 28, 2022 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Keyboard access and braille display

Hi,

I was experimenting a bit with turning on the accessibility setting for full 
keyboard access and moving around the iPhone and several applications. This was 
working fine with a Bluetooth keyboard.

However, as soon as I then turned on a braille display, the keyboard access 
quit working from the Bluetooth keyboard. Does anyone know if this is how 
things are supposed to work?

Kelly
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RE: Keyboard access and braille display

[Richard Turner]

I know that is how it works.  I don't know if Apple intended that.




Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Keyboard access and braille display

Hi,

I was experimenting a bit with turning on the accessibility setting for full 
keyboard access and moving around the iPhone and several applications. This was 
working fine with a Bluetooth keyboard.

However, as soon as I then turned on a braille display, the keyboard access 
quit working from the Bluetooth keyboard. Does anyone know if this is how 
things are supposed to work?

Kelly
.

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Keyboard access and braille display

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I was experimenting a bit with turning on the accessibility setting for full 
keyboard access and moving around the iPhone and several applications. This was 
working fine with a Bluetooth keyboard.

However, as soon as I then turned on a braille display, the keyboard access 
quit working from the Bluetooth keyboard. Does anyone know if this is how 
things are supposed to work?

Kelly
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Re: Accessible photo album

[chaim biberfeld]

Now I have the original SE but this photo finding problem has been the same 
since my iPhone 4 of 15 years ago. Perhaps I can explain it this way: the phone 
reads the album names, but when I flick right it stays where it is on the album 
 name. If I Open the album by double tapping, and then move my finger  down, on 
The screen, or swipe right, it just jumps down to the menu bar on the bottom. I 
can play on with the screen and find a picture or two but it does not behave in 
the usual  voiceover manner of swipe right to the next object etc.

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
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917-902-3349

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> On Sep 28, 2022, at 4:47 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You didn't mention which iPhone that you have. If your iPhone is an iPhone 11 
> or newer or one of the newer Se models do the followering; Open the photo 
> app, turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn OFF. Not finding 
> screen recognition in the rotor? Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, 
> voice recognition & turn screen recognition OFF. Hopefully, this is your 
> problem with the photo app, because All of Apple's stock apps are fully 
> accessible.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> I find the iPhone photo album entirely inaccessible. I was never able to 
>> flick to see the pictures, only two stab at my phone and hope to find one. 
>> Is there a fully accessible photo album that I can transfer my pictures to?
>> 
>> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
>> Private Practice
>> 917-902-3349
>> 
>> thegototherapist.com 
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RE: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

[bentleyj1952]

I'm not caught up on mail so this may have already been resolved.

I'm not having this problem when using Ciri with my S E 2020.  I suggest that 
you try saying "add to this message" instead of just saying the word "add"

Hope this helps.

James B  

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muccio
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

Nope. Not working that way am I a SE 2020. I doubt there’s a setting I am 
missing. It only allows me to change it. Not at. I can use the command ad but 
it will take that dictation but than it Deletes anything that I’ve dictated 
earlier  in the same message. 
I am talking about dictating a message from the home screen, not from within 
the message app. Within the message app it’s pretty full proof, dictation that 
is.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You can still add to messages using Siri.
> When it asks if you are ready to send it, just say "add to it."  Then it 
> asks, what do you want to add, say your addition, and then say send it when 
> it asks, or say add to it again.
> My test just now, it read back the whole message with the addition before 
> asking me if it should send it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages
> 
> Does it bother anybody else that dictates text messages that you can no 
> longer add to a message but that you can only change it? I know sometimes 
> anything you add might delete what was in the edit field before if you’re not 
> in the message app. But often it works. I really miss the ad feature as 
> opposed to having to change the whole message again. Sort of forces me to go 
> into the message app and use that since that never causes any problems. but I 
> like to do things as quickly as possible.The updates makes many things 
> more arduous. There’s more layering. And I can’t stand it. Does anybody else 
> feel this way?
> 
> 
> 
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Connecting K780 keyboard

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I've had this keyboard for quite a while and haven't been able to 
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Re: Accessible photo album

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Hi,You didn't mention which iPhone that you have. If your iPhone is an iPhone 11 or newer or one of the newer Se models do the followering; Open the photo app, turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn OFF. Not finding screen recognition in the rotor? Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition & turn screen recognition OFF. Hopefully, this is your problem with the photo app, because All of Apple's stock apps are fully accessible.DonnaI find the iPhone photo album entirely inaccessible. I was never able to flick to see the pictures, only two stab at my phone and hope to find one. Is there a fully accessible photo album that I can transfer my pictures to?Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-RPrivate Practice917-902-3349thegototherapist.com 



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RE: Accessible photo album

[Star Gazer]

Try swiping from within the 
picture that may help. Also you can get good metadata, date and time and 
location and what has been shared with the picture, that also helps 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 12:52 PM
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I find the iPhone photo album entirely inaccessible. I was never able to flick 
to see the pictures, only two stab at my phone and hope to find one. Is there a 
fully accessible photo album that I can transfer my pictures to?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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Re: Notification center

[Donna Casteen]

Deidre,

Screen recognition can be found in the rotor when in the Facebook app. Or by 
going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition. Screen 
recognition can be turned ON/OFF per app.

Donna

> 
> Thanks Donna.
>I found a spcific setting in notifications to restrict alerts in the 
> notification center, not within the app. I had to turn off calender 
> notifications because they were coming in non-stop and they only used to be 
> set t alert me one day before at the time of the appointment. I'm not sure 
> how to get that corrected again. 
>I use a SE 2020, but maybe I'll go look at where screen recognition is. It 
> is not in my roter.
> 
> 
>Deidre
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 3:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Notification center
> 
> I can't answer your notification center question. I'm having trouble 
> interacting with notifications within notification center & clearing all 
> notifications from notification center.
> 
> As for your problem with Facebook. You didn't mention which iPhone you are 
> using. If you are using an iPhone 11 or newer, confirm that screen 
> recognition is off.
> 
> Donna
> US iPhone 11How do I get rid of notification center notifications. I have 
> notifications turned on for Phone and calendar appointments and reminders. I 
> turned off  mail because the phone would be pinging constantly.  I don’t need 
> to see these duplicate mmessages announced  with a long list of all these 
> things. I can check that manually myself. I hate all this redundancy. I never 
> look forward to updates either but this might be an old problem not a new 
> one. 
>> Did they ever fix Facebook, I have to access it on my old 6S otherwise I 
>> can’t enter anything into an edit field in the what’s on your mind or add a 
>> caption to something I’m posting and sometimes comments too. I really hate 
>> these bugs.
>> I wonder sometimes if beta testers are using their Bluetooth keyboards too 
>> much to do testing when some of us are still really prefer touch gestures. 
>> Yes using a Bluetooth keyboard might make things more efficient and less 
>> buggy but I do not want to be attached to a Bluetooth keyboard all the time.
>> 
>> 
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RE: Banking App On Two iDevices?

[Fazil M.]

Thank you very much, Tara-jee.

It, indeed, worked!

Thanks again!

 

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Security conscious apps would mostly not let you change your Face ID settings 
once you’re logged in . If the app does support the face ID, The best approach 
would be to delete the app and reinstall. When you login for the first time 
after reinstalling the app, you would typically be asked if you want to use the 
face ID for logging in. You may have to find that  option on the screen and 
also have  to ensure to check The box that allows your app  to save your user 
ID. Cannot guarantee it will work but  Worth the effort 

 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 27, 2022, at 9:27 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks much, Sieghard.

I found App Setting in More tab but it doesn’t talk about FaceID, it says that 
language, time Zone etc can be changed in your device setting.

Thanks!

 

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Subject: RE: Banking App On Two iDevices?

 

Hi Fazil, once you are logged in to your BMO app you have 3 tabs across the 
bottom:

Home, Pay and Ttransfer and More

OK, I should say that maybe your tabs could be a bit different since I only 
have a BMO Air Miles Mastercard and no bank account so I use my Mastercard 
number to sign in, but either way you should have "More" at the bottom right.

Once you tap on that look for "App Settings" and select it. Here you can turn 
on Face Id, however it will probably ask you if you want to use Face Id as long 
as you find the checkbox or toggle switch for "Remember my card" at the login 
screen.

You have to give the app permission to remember your c ard before you can 
enable Face Id and I'm pretty sure once you do this and enter your password, 
the app will prompt you if you want to Face Id.

 

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Fazil M.
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 6:30 PM
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Subject: Banking App On Two iDevices?

 

Hi Group.

My bank is Bank of Montreal whose banking app is very accessible and I am very 
happy with it.

I have this app on iPhone8 and I access my account with fingerprint instead of 
password.

I also have iPhone12 and I am comfortable now with FaceID as it works for me 
%90 of the time. I have just added the app of BMO to iPhone12 and logged in 
with Password.

My question is, would iPhone12 let me log in next time to my account? If yes, 
would it ask for my password? How can I tell iPhone12 that next time I would 
like to use my FI instead of my PW?

Thanks!

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RE: Notification center

[deidreandlouise]

Thanks Donna.
I found a spcific setting in notifications to restrict alerts in the 
notification center, not within the app. I had to turn off calender 
notifications because they were coming in non-stop and they only used to be set 
t alert me one day before at the time of the appointment. I'm not sure how to 
get that corrected again. 
I use a SE 2020, but maybe I'll go look at where screen recognition is. 
It is not in my roter.


Deidre

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 3:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notification center

I can't answer your notification center question. I'm having trouble 
interacting with notifications within notification center & clearing all 
notifications from notification center.

As for your problem with Facebook. You didn't mention which iPhone you are 
using. If you are using an iPhone 11 or newer, confirm that screen recognition 
is off.

Donna
US iPhone 11How do I get rid of notification center notifications. I have 
notifications turned on for Phone and calendar appointments and reminders. I 
turned off  mail because the phone would be pinging constantly.  I don’t need 
to see these duplicate mmessages announced  with a long list of all these 
things. I can check that manually myself. I hate all this redundancy. I never 
look forward to updates either but this might be an old problem not a new one. 
> Did they ever fix Facebook, I have to access it on my old 6S otherwise I 
> can’t enter anything into an edit field in the what’s on your mind or add a 
> caption to something I’m posting and sometimes comments too. I really hate 
> these bugs.
> I wonder sometimes if beta testers are using their Bluetooth keyboards too 
> much to do testing when some of us are still really prefer touch gestures. 
> Yes using a Bluetooth keyboard might make things more efficient and less 
> buggy but I do not want to be attached to a Bluetooth keyboard all the time.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Notification center

[Donna Casteen]

I can't answer your notification center question. I'm having trouble 
interacting with notifications within notification center & clearing all 
notifications from notification center.

As for your problem with Facebook. You didn't mention which iPhone you are 
using. If you are using an iPhone 11 or newer, confirm that screen recognition 
is off.

Donna
US iPhone 11How do I get rid of notification center notifications. I have 
notifications turned on for Phone and calendar appointments and reminders. I 
turned off  mail because the phone would be pinging constantly.  I don’t need 
to see these duplicate mmessages announced  with a long list of all these 
things. I can check that manually myself. I hate all this redundancy. I never 
look forward to updates either but this might be an old problem not a new one. 
> Did they ever fix Facebook, I have to access it on my old 6S otherwise I 
> can’t enter anything into an edit field in the what’s on your mind or add a 
> caption to something I’m posting and sometimes comments too. I really hate 
> these bugs.
> I wonder sometimes if beta testers are using their Bluetooth keyboards too 
> much to do testing when some of us are still really prefer touch gestures. 
> Yes using a Bluetooth keyboard might make things more efficient and less 
> buggy but I do not want to be attached to a Bluetooth keyboard all the time.
> 
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RE: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

[Richard Turner]

ON my 13 pro, from the home screen, saying Hey Siri send a message to my wife,
Answering, what do you want to say with , "everything is fine here."
Waiting, when it asks, "ready to send it?" I said, Add to the message."
It said, what do you want to say or maybe it said add," I said "just testing to 
see if this works."
It read back, everything is fine here.  Just testing to see if this is working."

So, not sure what to suggest.
iOS 16.0.2



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礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

Nope. Not working that way am I a SE 2020. I doubt there’s a setting I am 
missing. It only allows me to change it. Not at. I can use the command ad but 
it will take that dictation but than it Deletes anything that I’ve dictated 
earlier  in the same message. 
I am talking about dictating a message from the home screen, not from within 
the message app. Within the message app it’s pretty full proof, dictation that 
is.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You can still add to messages using Siri.
> When it asks if you are ready to send it, just say "add to it."  Then it 
> asks, what do you want to add, say your addition, and then say send it when 
> it asks, or say add to it again.
> My test just now, it read back the whole message with the addition before 
> asking me if it should send it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages
> 
> Does it bother anybody else that dictates text messages that you can no 
> longer add to a message but that you can only change it? I know sometimes 
> anything you add might delete what was in the edit field before if you’re not 
> in the message app. But often it works. I really miss the ad feature as 
> opposed to having to change the whole message again. Sort of forces me to go 
> into the message app and use that since that never causes any problems. but I 
> like to do things as quickly as possible.The updates makes many things 
> more arduous. There’s more layering. And I can’t stand it. Does anybody else 
> feel this way?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

[deidre muccio]

After I have stopped talking and Siri asks me what I wanna do what she asked me 
is do you want to send or change. I have tried adding instead of changing and 
that’s when there’s a problem. It doesn’t work like it used to.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You can still add to messages using Siri.
> When it asks if you are ready to send it, just say "add to it."  Then it 
> asks, what do you want to add, say your addition, and then say send it when 
> it asks, or say add to it again.
> My test just now, it read back the whole message with the addition before 
> asking me if it should send it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages
> 
> Does it bother anybody else that dictates text messages that you can no 
> longer add to a message but that you can only change it? I know sometimes 
> anything you add might delete what was in the edit field before if you’re not 
> in the message app. But often it works. I really miss the ad feature as 
> opposed to having to change the whole message again. Sort of forces me to go 
> into the message app and use that since that never causes any problems. but I 
> like to do things as quickly as possible.The updates makes many things 
> more arduous. There’s more layering. And I can’t stand it. Does anybody else 
> feel this way?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

[deidre muccio]

Nope. Not working that way am I a SE 2020. I doubt there’s a setting I am 
missing. It only allows me to change it. Not at. I can use the command ad but 
it will take that dictation but than it Deletes anything that I’ve dictated 
earlier  in the same message. 
I am talking about dictating a message from the home screen, not from within 
the message app. Within the message app it’s pretty full proof, dictation that 
is.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You can still add to messages using Siri.
> When it asks if you are ready to send it, just say "add to it."  Then it 
> asks, what do you want to add, say your addition, and then say send it when 
> it asks, or say add to it again.
> My test just now, it read back the whole message with the addition before 
> asking me if it should send it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages
> 
> Does it bother anybody else that dictates text messages that you can no 
> longer add to a message but that you can only change it? I know sometimes 
> anything you add might delete what was in the edit field before if you’re not 
> in the message app. But often it works. I really miss the ad feature as 
> opposed to having to change the whole message again. Sort of forces me to go 
> into the message app and use that since that never causes any problems. but I 
> like to do things as quickly as possible.The updates makes many things 
> more arduous. There’s more layering. And I can’t stand it. Does anybody else 
> feel this way?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Notification center

[Carolyn]

I don't intend to be attached to any kind of peripheral keyboard for my iPhone. 
It never dawned on me that a peripheral keyboard could be an issue with beta 
testing. My bet is that savvy betas can do with or without them and probably do 
both ways. 

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deidre muccio
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Notification center

How do I get rid of notification center notifications. I have notifications 
turned on for Phone and calendar appointments and reminders. I turned off  mail 
because the phone would be pinging constantly.  I don’t need to see these 
duplicate mmessages announced  with a long list of all these things. I can 
check that manually myself. I hate all this redundancy. I never look forward to 
updates either but this might be an old problem not a new one. 
Did they ever fix Facebook, I have to access it on my old 6S otherwise I can’t 
enter anything into an edit field in the what’s on your mind or add a caption 
to something I’m posting and sometimes comments too. I really hate these bugs.
I wonder sometimes if beta testers are using their Bluetooth keyboards too much 
to do testing when some of us are still really prefer touch gestures. Yes using 
a Bluetooth keyboard might make things more efficient and less buggy but I do 
not want to be attached to a Bluetooth keyboard all the time.


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Re: Banking App On Two iDevices?

[TaraPrakash]

Security conscious apps would mostly not let you change your Face ID settings 
once you’re logged in . If the app does support the face ID, The best approach 
would be to delete the app and reinstall. When you login for the first time 
after reinstalling the app, you would typically be asked if you want to use the 
face ID for logging in. You may have to find that  option on the screen and 
also have  to ensure to check The box that allows your app  to save your user 
ID. Cannot guarantee it will work but  Worth the effort 
 

 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2022, at 9:27 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks much, Sieghard.
> I found App Setting in More tab but it doesn’t talk about FaceID, it says 
> that language, time Zone etc can be changed in your device setting.
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Banking App On Two iDevices?
>  
> Hi Fazil, once you are logged in to your BMO app you have 3 tabs across the 
> bottom:
> Home, Pay and Ttransfer and More
> OK, I should say that maybe your tabs could be a bit different since I only 
> have a BMO Air Miles Mastercard and no bank account so I use my Mastercard 
> number to sign in, but either way you should have "More" at the bottom right.
> Once you tap on that look for "App Settings" and select it. Here you can turn 
> on Face Id, however it will probably ask you if you want to use Face Id as 
> long as you find the checkbox or toggle switch for "Remember my card" at the 
> login screen.
> You have to give the app permission to remember your c ard before you can 
> enable Face Id and I'm pretty sure once you do this and enter your password, 
> the app will prompt you if you want to Face Id.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil 
> M.
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 6:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Banking App On Two iDevices?
>  
> Hi Group.
> My bank is Bank of Montreal whose banking app is very accessible and I am 
> very happy with it.
> I have this app on iPhone8 and I access my account with fingerprint instead 
> of password.
> I also have iPhone12 and I am comfortable now with FaceID as it works for me 
> %90 of the time. I have just added the app of BMO to iPhone12 and logged in 
> with Password.
> My question is, would iPhone12 let me log in next time to my account? If yes, 
> would it ask for my password? How can I tell iPhone12 that next time I would 
> like to use my FI instead of my PW?
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RE: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

[Richard Turner]

You can still add to messages using Siri.
When it asks if you are ready to send it, just say "add to it."  Then it asks, 
what do you want to add, say your addition, and then say send it when it asks, 
or say add to it again.
My test just now, it read back the whole message with the addition before 
asking me if it should send it.





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礪

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

Does it bother anybody else that dictates text messages that you can no longer 
add to a message but that you can only change it? I know sometimes anything you 
add might delete what was in the edit field before if you’re not in the message 
app. But often it works. I really miss the ad feature as opposed to having to 
change the whole message again. Sort of forces me to go into the message app 
and use that since that never causes any problems. but I like to do things as 
quickly as possible.The updates makes many things more arduous. There’s 
more layering. And I can’t stand it. Does anybody else feel this way?



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Accessible photo album

[chaim biberfeld]

I find the iPhone photo album entirely inaccessible. I was never able to flick 
to see the pictures, only two stab at my phone and hope to find one. Is there a 
fully accessible photo album that I can transfer my pictures to?

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Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

[deidre muccio]

Does it bother anybody else that dictates text messages that you can no longer 
add to a message but that you can only change it? I know sometimes anything you 
add might delete what was in the edit field before if you’re not in the message 
app. But often it works. I really miss the ad feature as opposed to having to 
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and use that since that never causes any problems. but I like to do things as 
quickly as possible.The updates makes many things more arduous. There’s 
more layering. And I can’t stand it. Does anybody else feel this way?



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RE: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

[anthonyborg001]

Oh sorry, i forgot to mention it, it is se first generation. Thank you for your 
reply and the confirmation. 

Best 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 28 September 2022 14:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

 

When you say the iPhone, * first generation*, are you referring to the SE2016?  
If so, mine would only update to iOS15.7 and no further.

 

 

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Hi 

 

Can anyone tell me if the iphone first generation has been updated with IOS 16 
please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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Re: Messages app opening to compose screen

[Vicky Collins]

Well, it’s back to the basics that I should’ve thought of myself. While I do keep all messages erased after no longer needed and keep the apps cleared out so there’s nothing in the app switcher, I completely forgot about rebooting to see if that would work. And, of course, rebooting did fix the problem, so thanks very much for jogging my memory on that basic Solution. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 28, 2022, at 9:25 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:have you hit cancel on that open message?If you have not canceled it, it will stay open.If you did cancel it, perhaps clearing the app switcher and rebooting.Lastly, double check that screen recognition is not on.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Sep 28, 2022, at 6:01 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:And of course I forgot to mention that I am from the United States, in case that makes a difference.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 28, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:This started a couple of days ago, but I can’t say whether or not it started before or after I updated to iOS 16.0.2. When I open the Messages app on my 13 mini, it goes directly to composing a message, while when I open the app on my 12 mini, it still goes to my list of messages like normal. I have no idea what I did to make the 13 mini start opening to compose a message, but does anybody have any idea on how to get it back to opening to the list of messages?Sent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C4D0FFD0-AABC-4BFE-827A-642C3FE0FC78%40gmail.com.



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Re: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

[Mike B]

When you say the iPhone, * first generation*, are you referring to the 
SE2016?  If so, mine would only update to iOS15.7 and no further.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!

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Hi



Can anyone tell me if the iphone first generation has been updated with IOS 
16 please?

Thanks in advance



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Re: Messages app opening to compose screen

[Richard Turner]

have you hit cancel on that open message?
If you have not canceled it, it will stay open.
If you did cancel it, perhaps clearing the app switcher and rebooting.
Lastly, double check that screen recognition is not on.




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> On Sep 28, 2022, at 6:01 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> And of course I forgot to mention that I am from the United States, in case 
> that makes a difference.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
>> 
>> This started a couple of days ago, but I can’t say whether or not it 
>> started before or after I updated to iOS 16.0.2. When I open the Messages 
>> app on my 13 mini, it goes directly to composing a message, while when I 
>> open the app on my 12 mini, it still goes to my list of messages like 
>> normal. I have no idea what I did to make the 13 mini start opening to 
>> compose a message, but does anybody have any idea on how to get it back to 
>> opening to the list of messages?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

[Flor Lynch]

Hi Anthony,


If you mean the iPhone SE (1)? No. That phone can't be upgraded to iOS16.


On 28/09/2022 14:51, anthonyborg...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi

Can anyone tell me if the iphone first generation has been updated 
with IOS 16 please?


Thanks in advance

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Notification center

[deidre muccio]

How do I get rid of notification center notifications. I have notifications 
turned on for Phone and calendar appointments and reminders. I turned off  mail 
because the phone would be pinging constantly.  I don’t need to see these 
duplicate mmessages announced  with a long list of all these things. I can 
check that manually myself. I hate all this redundancy. I never look forward to 
updates either but this might be an old problem not a new one. 
Did they ever fix Facebook, I have to access it on my old 6S otherwise I can’t 
enter anything into an edit field in the what’s on your mind or add a caption 
to something I’m posting and sometimes comments too. I really hate these bugs.
I wonder sometimes if beta testers are using their Bluetooth keyboards too much 
to do testing when some of us are still really prefer touch gestures. Yes using 
a Bluetooth keyboard might make things more efficient and less buggy but I do 
not want to be attached to a Bluetooth keyboard all the time.


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Re: Messages app opening to compose screen

[Vicky Collins]

And of course I forgot to mention that I am from the United States, in case 
that makes a difference.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
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> This started a couple of days ago, but I can’t say whether or not it started 
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> 13 mini, it goes directly to composing a message, while when I open the app 
> on my 12 mini, it still goes to my list of messages like normal. I have no 
> idea what I did to make the 13 mini start opening to compose a message, but 
> does anybody have any idea on how to get it back to opening to the list of 
> messages?
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Messages app opening to compose screen

[Vicky Collins]

This started a couple of days ago, but I can’t say whether or not it started 
before or after I updated to iOS 16.0.2. When I open the Messages app on my 13 
mini, it goes directly to composing a message, while when I open the app on my 
12 mini, it still goes to my list of messages like normal. I have no idea what 
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iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

[anthonyborg001]

Hi 

 

Can anyone tell me if the iphone first generation has been updated with IOS
16 please? 

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Startup and shutdown sound on iPhone 14

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I am a bit confused because at first I heard that these sounds and vibration 
would be available only on the pro and max but now it sounds as if the plain 
iPhone 14 has them too. Can someone please clarify?
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Re: Overcast And Unlistened limiting per podcast?

[Jenifer Barr]

Gera. 
Yes. If you go from the podcast you are listening to... go into settings. You 
can change the setting for that particular podcast. I'm referring to the 
settings button after the buttons for "all" and "unplayed." 
Hth
Jen 

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> On Sep 28, 2022, at 2:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> You'll know how within the Overcast app, one can set up up to how many 
> unlistened podcast episodes one can have before the app automatically starts 
> deleting episodes? I've got mine set to 5, for instance. But I wonder if can 
> one set up for instance, when it comes to NPR, or other evening News podcasts 
> (CBS, NBC, Telemundo), to set up those so that after 2 or 3 unlistened 
> episodes, these can start being deleted? The rest of them, dough, I'd like to 
> leave at 5. Can this be done?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Overcast And Unlistened limiting per podcast?

[Gerardo Corripio]

You'll know how within the Overcast app, one can set up up to how many 
unlistened podcast episodes one can have before the app automatically starts 
deleting episodes? I've got mine set to 5, for instance. But I wonder if can 
one set up for instance, when it comes to NPR, or other evening News podcasts 
(CBS, NBC, Telemundo), to set up those so that after 2 or 3 unlistened 
episodes, these can start being deleted? The rest of them, dough, I'd like to 
leave at 5. Can this be done?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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