RE: "a question about updating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Dan,

First of all, this is not an accessibility issue since when this wasn't working 
for me it also wasn't working if I turned Voiceover off altogether.
Secondly, I assume this is already fixed when iOS 16.1 comes out since for me 
it works fine and I am on iOS 16.1 Public Beta 4. I assume public beta 5 comes 
out this week and that iOS 16.1 will be officially released during the last 
week of October or the first week of November.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 6:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I am running the latest update, and Siri continues to not do the song 
identification. When I hear a song playing, and I ask Siri to name this song, 
she will say “let me listen “and after about 10 seconds, will say I can’t 
recognize songs right now try again in a bit. I’ve written to Apple 
accessibility and haven’t gotten anywhere. I hope they get this fixed. 
Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2022, at 1:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Maybe this is a fix in iOS 16.1 then, I am running the iOS 16.1 Public Beta 
> and Siri has been working fine for the last couple of weeks identifying 
> songs. If I hear a song and want to know what it is I just ask "Siri, what 
> song is that", Siri will say "Let me listen" and after maybe 8 or 10 seconds 
> I get the answer.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 2:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> Joshua, I have no need to know what song is playing on my phone. The song 
> name & singer/band are there on the screen. I need to know song info when 
> listen to the radio, out in public in a store/restaurant, etc.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my 
>> phone identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this 
>> problem is happening though.
>> 
>>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
>>> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another 
>>> source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or 
>>> computer, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple 
>>> music, and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was 
>>> playing with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version 
>>> of IOS.
>>> 
>>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>>>> Shazam on my
>>>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>>>> Siri does not.
>>>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, 
>>>> but you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open 
>>>> Shazam instead of asking it to identify the song.
>>>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
>>>> Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Donna Casteen
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>>> 
>>>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago 
>>>> there was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch 
>>>> running IOS 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. 
>>>> But if I use 

Re: "a question about updating

[Dan Yates]

I am running the latest update, and Siri continues to not do the song 
identification. When I hear a song playing, and I ask Siri to name this song, 
she will say “let me listen “and after about 10 seconds, will say I can’t 
recognize songs right now try again in a bit. I’ve written to Apple 
accessibility and haven’t gotten anywhere. I hope they get this fixed. 
Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2022, at 1:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Maybe this is a fix in iOS 16.1 then, I am running the iOS 16.1 Public Beta 
> and Siri has been working fine for the last couple of weeks identifying 
> songs. If I hear a song and want to know what it is I just ask "Siri, what 
> song is that", Siri will say "Let me listen" and after maybe 8 or 10 seconds 
> I get the answer.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 2:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> Joshua, I have no need to know what song is playing on my phone. The song 
> name & singer/band are there on the screen. I need to know song info when 
> listen to the radio, out in public in a store/restaurant, etc.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone 
>> identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem 
>> is happening though.
>> 
>>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
>>> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another 
>>> source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or 
>>> computer, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, 
>>> and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing 
>>> with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>>> 
>>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>>>> Shazam on my
>>>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>>>> Siri does not.
>>>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, 
>>>> but you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open 
>>>> Shazam instead of asking it to identify the song.
>>>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Donna Casteen
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>>> 
>>>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago 
>>>> there was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch 
>>>> running IOS 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But 
>>>> if I use my iPhone 11 running
>>>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any 
>>>> song.
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>>>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>>>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>>>>> Pannel?
>>>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>>>

RE: "a question about updating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe this is a fix in iOS 16.1 then, I am running the iOS 16.1 Public Beta and 
Siri has been working fine for the last couple of weeks identifying songs. If I 
hear a song and want to know what it is I just ask "Siri, what song is that", 
Siri will say "Let me listen" and after maybe 8 or 10 seconds I get the answer.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 2:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

Joshua, I have no need to know what song is playing on my phone. The song name 
& singer/band are there on the screen. I need to know song info when listen to 
the radio, out in public in a store/restaurant, etc.

Donna

> 
> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone 
> identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem 
> is happening though.
> 
>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
>> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another 
>> source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or 
>> computer, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, 
>> and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing 
>> with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>> 
>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>>> Shazam on my
>>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>>> Siri does not.
>>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, 
>>> but you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open 
>>> Shazam instead of asking it to identify the song.
>>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Donna Casteen
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago 
>>> there was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch 
>>> running IOS 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But 
>>> if I use my iPhone 11 running
>>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any 
>>> song.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>>>> Pannel?
>>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open 
>>>> the song right in Spotify!
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
>>>>> 
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
>>>>> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
>>>>> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>>>>> 
>>

Re: "a question about updating

[Donna Casteen]

Joshua, I have no need to know what song is playing on my phone. The song name 
& singer/band are there on the screen. I need to know song info when listen to 
the radio, out in public in a store/restaurant, etc.

Donna

> 
> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone
> identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem
> is happening though.
> 
>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
>> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and
>> your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and
>> youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no
>> issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>> 
>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam
>>> on my
>>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>>> Siri does not.
>>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but
>>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam
>>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Donna Casteen
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there
>>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS
>>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my
>>> iPhone 11 running
>>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any
>>> song.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is
>>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to
>>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control
>>>> Pannel?
>>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the
>>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the
>>>> song right in Spotify!
>>>> 
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>> 
>>>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen
>>>>> 
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again
>>>>> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I
>>>>> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris Judge
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>>>>> I have tried later, about a

RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

Right, the feature is intended to use the iPHone microphone and have Siri 
listen to a song not laying on your phone.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I’ve been able to indeed identify songs from the phone; for example let’s say 
I’m in Youtube Music and a song sarts playing? I keep the song playing, go to 
the Control Center’s Music Identification button, double-tap and in no time at 
all, a notification pops up with the song’s name. It even works if you’re 
wearing earbuds/headphones!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 2:34 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?  
> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and 
> your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
> Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and 
> youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no 
> issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
> 
>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>> Shazam on my
>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>> Siri does not.
>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but 
>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam 
>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there 
>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 
>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my 
>> iPhone 11 running
>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>>> Pannel?
>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the 
>>> song right in Spotify!
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
>>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
>>>> 
>>>> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
>>>> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
>>>> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Judge
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: "a question about up

Re: "a question about updating

[Gerardo Corripio]

I’ve been able to indeed identify songs from the phone; for example let’s say 
I’m in Youtube Music and a song sarts playing? I keep the song playing, go to 
the Control Center’s Music Identification button, double-tap and in no time at 
all, a notification pops up with the song’s name. It even works if you’re 
wearing earbuds/headphones!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 2:34 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?  
> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and 
> your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and 
> youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no 
> issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
> 
>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam 
>> on my
>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>> Siri does not.
>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but 
>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam 
>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there 
>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 
>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my 
>> iPhone 11 running
>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>>> Pannel?
>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the 
>>> song right in Spotify!
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
>>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
>>>> 
>>>> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
>>>> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
>>>> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Judge
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>>>> 
>>>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and 
>>>>> nothing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song 
>>>>> quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get 
>>>>> the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now that 
>>>>> I 

Re: "a question about updating

[Mickey Quenzer]

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 2:47 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> If the song is playing on your phone, I wouldn't think you would need Siri
> to identify it.
> The point of the feature is if you are listening, say to a car radio, and
> don't know a song, you can ask Siri to identify it.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original  now that I have the latest beta, I am not able to use the
> feature again. Luckily I haven’t got rid of the entry in Feedback so maybe
> they’ll fix it again!

However, it doesn’t look like they’ve seen it because it still shows update
> as open and no other issues like it so I’m disappointed and not sure how to
> fix the problem. Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone
> identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem is
> happening though.
>
> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> > Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
> > I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another
> > source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or
> computer, 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard, USA.
> > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.”
> >  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> >
> > My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> > Joshua Hendrickson
> > Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> >
> > I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music,
> > and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing
> > with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of
> IOS.
> >
> > On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> >> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening
> >> Shazam on my
> >> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
> >> Siri does not.
> >> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but
> >> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam
> >> instead of asking it to identify the song.
> >> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard, USA.
> >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
> >> with it.”
> >>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> >>
> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> >> Of Donna Casteen
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> >>
> >> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there
> >> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS
> >> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my
> >> iPhone 11 running
> >> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any
> >> song.
> >>
> >> Donna
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is
> >>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to
> >>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
> >>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control
> >>> Pannel?
> >>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the
> >>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the
> >>> song right in Spotify!
> >>>
> >>> Gera
> >>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> >>>
> >>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen
> >>>> 
> >>>> escribió:
> >>>>
> >>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try

RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

If the song is playing on your phone, I wouldn't think you would need Siri to 
identify it.
The point of the feature is if you are listening, say to a car radio, and don't 
know a song, you can ask Siri to identify it.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone identify 
songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem is happening 
though.

On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another 
> source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or 
> computer, 
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, 
> and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing 
> with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>
> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>> Shazam on my
>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>> Siri does not.
>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but 
>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam 
>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>
>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there 
>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 
>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my 
>> iPhone 11 running
>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any 
>> song.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>>
>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>>> Pannel?
>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the 
>>> song right in Spotify!
>>>
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>
>>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
>>>> 
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
>>>> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
>>>> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
>>>>
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Judge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>>>>
>>>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now,

Re: "a question about updating

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone
identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem
is happening though.

On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and
> your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and
> youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no
> issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>
> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam
>> on my
>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>> Siri does not.
>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but
>> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam
>> instead of asking it to identify the song.
>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>> it.”
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>
>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there
>> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS
>> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my
>> iPhone 11 running
>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any
>> song.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>>
>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is
>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to
>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control
>>> Pannel?
>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the
>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the
>>> song right in Spotify!
>>>
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>
>>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen
>>>> 
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again
>>>> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I
>>>> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
>>>>
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Judge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>>>>
>>>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and
>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song
>>>>> quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get
>>>>> the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now that
>>>>> I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
>>>>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who
>>>>> are having success, have that subscription?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>>>>>
>&

RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

Are you talking about music playing on your phone?  
I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another source and 
your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or computer, 





Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, and 
youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing with no 
issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.

On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam 
> on my
> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
> Siri does not.
> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but 
> you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam 
> instead of asking it to identify the song.
> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there 
> was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 
> 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my 
> iPhone 11 running
> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>> Pannel?
>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the 
>> song right in Spotify!
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>
>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
>>> 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
>>> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
>>> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Judge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>>>
>>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and 
>>>> nothing.
>>>>
>>>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song 
>>>> quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get 
>>>> the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now that 
>>>> I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
>>>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who 
>>>> are having success, have that subscription?
>>>>
>>>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>>> the Universe
>>>>
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: R

Re: "a question about updating

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music,
and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing
with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of
IOS.

On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam on my
> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
> Siri does not.
> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but you
> can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam instead of
> asking it to identify the song.
> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
> Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there was an
> update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 9, Siri will
> immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my iPhone 11 running
> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is Siri
>> linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to Spotify, thus
>> don’t know if this would make a difference.
>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control
>> Pannel?
>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the lyrics,
>> you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open the song right in
>> Spotify!
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>
>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If
>>> I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on
>>> my phone to identify every time.
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Judge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>>>
>>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and
>>>> nothing.
>>>>
>>>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song
>>>> quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the
>>>> lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid
>>>> attention to the Shazam screen.
>>>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are
>>>> having success, have that subscription?
>>>>
>>>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in
>>>> the Universe
>>>>
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>>>
>>>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My
>>>> Siri correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she
>>>> gives me the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually
>>>> playing when you ask her the question to work correctly.  I have also
>>>> been able to tell Siri to Hang up on a call and it works correctly as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>>> I just re-read their original message, they sa

RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening Shazam on my 13 
pro identifies the song immediately.
Siri does not.
So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, but you can 
get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open Shazam instead of asking 
it to identify the song.
At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there was an 
update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 9, Siri will 
immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my iPhone 11 running 16.02 
& the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.

Donna
 
> 
> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is Siri 
> linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to Spotify, thus 
> don’t know if this would make a difference.
> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control Pannel?
> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the lyrics, you’ve 
> got to link it first), you get the chance to open the song right in Spotify!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If I 
>> use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on my 
>> phone to identify every time.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris Judge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
>>> 
>>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly. 
>>>  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
>>> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
>>> Shazam screen.
>>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are 
>>> having success, have that subscription?
>>> 
>>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
>>> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
>>> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you 
>>> ask her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri 
>>> to Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
>>>>> iPhone SE
>>>>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was 
>>>>> called the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, 
>>>>> the SE 2022, i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st 
>>>>> gen was the smaller one released in 2016, which apparently is not what 
>>>>> they have after all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There was no SE in 2021.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>>>>

Re: "a question about updating

[Donna Casteen]

Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago there was an 
update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch running IOS 9, Siri will 
immediately identify a song every time. But if I use my iPhone 11 running 16.02 
& the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any song.

Donna
 
> 
> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is Siri 
> linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to Spotify, thus 
> don’t know if this would make a difference.
> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control Pannel?
> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the lyrics, you’ve 
> got to link it first), you get the chance to open the song right in Spotify!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If I 
>> use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on my 
>> phone to identify every time.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris Judge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
>>> 
>>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly. 
>>>  And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
>>> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
>>> Shazam screen.
>>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are 
>>> having success, have that subscription?
>>> 
>>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
>>> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
>>> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you 
>>> ask her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri 
>>> to Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
>>>>> iPhone SE
>>>>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
>>>>> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
>>>>> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
>>>>> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There was no SE in 2021.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>>> it.”
>>>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>>> 
>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Donna Casteen
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have

Re: "a question about updating

[Gerardo Corripio]

Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is Siri linked 
to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to Spotify, thus don’t know 
if this would make a difference.
Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control Pannel?
And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the lyrics, you’ve 
got to link it first), you get the chance to open the song right in Spotify!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen  
> escribió:
> 
> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If I 
> use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on my 
> phone to identify every time.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>> 
>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
>> 
>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly.  
>> And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
>> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
>> Shazam screen.
>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are having 
>> success, have that subscription?
>> 
>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
>> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
>> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you 
>> ask her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri 
>> to Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
>> 
>>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
>>> iPhone SE
>>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
>>> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
>>> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
>>> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>>> 
>>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>>> 
>>> There was no SE in 2021.
>>> 
>>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Donna Casteen
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
>>> iPhone Se
>>> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
>>> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
>>>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>>> the Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegrou

Re: "a question about updating

[Donna Casteen]

Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again later. If I use 
my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I requested Siri on my phone to 
identify every time.

Donna

> 
> That's what I’m getting as well.
> 
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> 
> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
> 
> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly.  
> And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
> Shazam screen.
> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are having 
> success, have that subscription?
> 
> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you ask 
> her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to 
> Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
> 
>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
>> iPhone SE
>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
>> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
>> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
>> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>> 
>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>> 
>> There was no SE in 2021.
>> 
>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
>> iPhone Se
>> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
>> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
>>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mr Ed
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Yes
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Lelia Struve
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
>>> To: Viphone 
>>> Subject: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first 
>>> gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Lelia
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>> iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running

Re: "a question about updating

[Gerardo Corripio]

While at the grocery store with my parents last night, I identified several 
songs playing over the AP system without issues! I did it through the icon one 
has within the Control Center. Hope this helps some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:08 a.m., chrisjudge1...@gmail.com escribió:
> 
> That's what I’m getting as well.
> 
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> 
> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.
> 
> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly.  
> And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the 
> song.  That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the 
> Shazam screen.
> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are having 
> success, have that subscription?
> 
> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
> correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me 
> the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you ask 
> her the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to 
> Hang up on a call and it works correctly as well.
> 
>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
>> iPhone SE
>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
>> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
>> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
>> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>> 
>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>> 
>> There was no SE in 2021.
>> 
>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>> 
>> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
>> iPhone Se
>> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
>> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
>>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mr Ed
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Yes
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Lelia Struve
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
>>> To: Viphone 
>>> Subject: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first 
>>> gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Lelia
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is importan

RE: "a question about updating

[chrisjudge1967]

That's what I’m getting as well.


Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "a question about updating

All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.

However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly.  
And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the song. 
 That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the Shazam 
screen.
Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are having 
success, have that subscription?

Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me the 
correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you ask her 
the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to Hang up 
on a call and it works correctly as well.

On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
> iPhone SE
> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>
> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>
> There was no SE in 2021.
>
> I hope that is all sorted now.
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
> iPhone Se
> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>> the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mr Ed
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: "a question about updating
>>
>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first 
>> gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>>
>> Lelia
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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RE: "a question about updating

[h.begum99 via VIPhone]

Hi,

So what are the differences between the SE2020 and the SE2022? I have the 
SE2016 at the moment so probably should get a new phone as you can't get iOS 16 
on it apparently. That is a good reason to update isn't it or will it be okay 
to stay on iOS 15 for a while?

Thanks
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 08 October 2022 18:12
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "a question about updating

I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the iPhone SE 20 
first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called the SE 2nd 
generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, i.e. SE 3rd 
generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller one released in 
2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.

Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.

There was no SE in 2021.

I hope that is all sorted now.  


Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an iPhone Se 
2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their phone is 
newer than mine. Confused here

Donna

> 
> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones mentioned 
> cannot update to iOS 16.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr Ed
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> 
> Yes
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
> Struve
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: "a question about updating
> 
> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, or 
> an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: "a question about updating

[Carolyn]

I would; I did. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia Struve
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 11:00 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: "a question about updating

Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, or 
an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and nothing.

However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the song quickly.  
And, something I just noticed, there is a button to get the lyrics of the song. 
 That is something I will use more now that I paid attention to the Shazam 
screen.
Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those who are having 
success, have that subscription?

Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My Siri 
correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she gives me the 
correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually playing when you ask her 
the question to work correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to Hang up 
on a call and it works correctly as well.

On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the 
> iPhone SE
> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called 
> the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, 
> i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller 
> one released in 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>
> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>
> There was no SE in 2021.
>
> I hope that is all sorted now.
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an 
> iPhone Se
> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their 
> phone is newer than mine. Confused here
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones 
>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>> the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
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>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: "a question about updating
>>
>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first 
>> gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>>
>> Lelia
>>
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Re: "a question about updating

[Julie Dawson]

I can't either, it says can't identify music, try later. It used to say 
"name that tune" Sometimes I want to find out a new country or Christian 
song on a sirius-xm station but can't now.
- Original Message - 
From: "Donna Casteen" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: "a question about updating


Sieghard, Didn't I just read in this group or maybe another group that you 
are running the IOS beta on your iPhone? It is nice to know that Apple has 
fixed the bug to be released in an upcoming update. Until the IOS update is 
released, Siri identifying songs won't work for those of us who aren't beta 
testers. Downloading Shazam & using Siri still does not return any results. 
I've checked Settings, Siri & Settings, Accessibility, Siri & can't find a 
setting that may need changing to have Siri identify songs.


Donna



I have had no problems asking Siri to identify music for a couple of 
weeks now. Just tried it again yesterday and it worked as expected.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "a question about updating

The SE 1st generation came out in 2016 and is the 4.7 inch model.  It 
cannot be updated to iOS 16.  It stops at iOS 15.7.
The SE 2020, also known as the SE 2nd generation should be able to update 
to 16.

The 11 certainly can.
While Siri for some odd reason cannot seem to identify music, the Shazam 
app can.  I just tested it on my 13 pro.


I have no trouble with notifications either.



Richard, USA.
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it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen

Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I have both phones that you mentioned. Both phones have been updated to 
IOS 16.02. The only problems that I'm experiencing & neither is a deal 
breaker; Accessing Notifications is a pain & Siri can't identify a song.


Donna



Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first 
gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.


Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: "a question about updating

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.  My
Siri correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is playing, she
gives me the correct answer.  I think the song has to be actually
playing when you ask her the question to work correctly.  I have also
been able to tell Siri to Hang up on a call and it works correctly as
well.

On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the iPhone SE
> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called the SE
> 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, i.e. SE 3rd
> generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller one released in
> 2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.
>
> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>
> There was no SE in 2021.
>
> I hope that is all sorted now.
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
> Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>
> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an iPhone Se
> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their phone is
> newer than mine. Confused here
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones
>> mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Universe
>>
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: "a question about updating
>>
>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen,
>> or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>>
>> Lelia
>>
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RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, the iPhone SE 20 
first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was called the SE 2nd 
generation or the SE 2020 and then this year, the SE 2022, i.e. SE 3rd 
generation,  was released.  The SE 1st gen was the smaller one released in 
2016, which apparently is not what they have after all.

Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.

There was no SE in 2021.

I hope that is all sorted now.  


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an iPhone Se 
2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their phone is 
newer than mine. Confused here

Donna

> 
> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones mentioned 
> cannot update to iOS 16.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
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> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr Ed
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Yes
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
> Struve
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: "a question about updating
> 
> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, or 
> an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

If you open the Shazam app, it will identify songs correctly.
I just tried saying, Hey Siri, open Shazam" and since Shazam opens in listening 
mode, any music that is playing gets identified.
That isn't much different than asking Siri to identify x song.

Until Siri is fixed to work on its own again, this is a perfectly good work 
around.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

Sieghard, Didn't I just read in this group or maybe another group that you are 
running the IOS beta on your iPhone? It is nice to know that Apple has fixed 
the bug to be released in an upcoming update. Until the IOS update is released, 
Siri identifying songs won't work for those of us who aren't beta testers. 
Downloading Shazam & using Siri still does not return any results. I've checked 
Settings, Siri & Settings, Accessibility, Siri & can't find a setting that may 
need changing to have Siri identify songs.

Donna

> 
> I have had no problems asking Siri to identify music for a couple of weeks 
> now. Just tried it again yesterday and it worked as expected.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
> 
> The SE 1st generation came out in 2016 and is the 4.7 inch model.  It cannot 
> be updated to iOS 16.  It stops at iOS 15.7.
> The SE 2020, also known as the SE 2nd generation should be able to update to 
> 16.
> The 11 certainly can.
> While Siri for some odd reason cannot seem to identify music, the Shazam app 
> can.  I just tested it on my 13 pro.
> 
> I have no trouble with notifications either.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> I have both phones that you mentioned. Both phones have been updated to IOS 
> 16.02. The only problems that I'm experiencing & neither is a deal breaker; 
> Accessing Notifications is a pain & Siri can't identify a song.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, 
>> or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>> 
>> Lelia 
>> 
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Re: "a question about updating

[Donna Casteen]

Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I have an iPhone Se 
2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & their phone is 
newer than mine. Confused here

Donna

> 
> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones mentioned 
> cannot update to iOS 16.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
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> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
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> Yes
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> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, or 
> an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
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Re: "a question about updating

[Donna Casteen]

Sieghard, Didn't I just read in this group or maybe another group that you are 
running the IOS beta on your iPhone? It is nice to know that Apple has fixed 
the bug to be released in an upcoming update. Until the IOS update is released, 
Siri identifying songs won't work for those of us who aren't beta testers. 
Downloading Shazam & using Siri still does not return any results. I've checked 
Settings, Siri & Settings, Accessibility, Siri & can't find a setting that may 
need changing to have Siri identify songs.

Donna

> 
> I have had no problems asking Siri to identify music for a couple of weeks 
> now. Just tried it again yesterday and it worked as expected.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> The SE 1st generation came out in 2016 and is the 4.7 inch model.  It cannot 
> be updated to iOS 16.  It stops at iOS 15.7.
> The SE 2020, also known as the SE 2nd generation should be able to update to 
> 16.
> The 11 certainly can.
> While Siri for some odd reason cannot seem to identify music, the Shazam app 
> can.  I just tested it on my 13 pro.
> 
> I have no trouble with notifications either.
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> 
> I have both phones that you mentioned. Both phones have been updated to IOS 
> 16.02. The only problems that I'm experiencing & neither is a deal breaker; 
> Accessing Notifications is a pain & Siri can't identify a song.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, 
>> or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.
>> 
>> Lelia 
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RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the phones mentioned 
cannot update to iOS 16.




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Yes

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Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, or 
an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.

Lelia 

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RE: "a question about updating

[Mr Ed]

Yes

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Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, or 
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RE: "a question about updating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think it's a question as to what phone you have when  it comes to 
updating to iOS 16 but whether you want to do so.
Of course as Richard pointed out the first Gen iPhone SE can't be updated and 
that also applies to the iPhone 6S/6S Plus or anything older.
If you have an iPhone 7, 8/8 Plus or newer you can update. I have an iPhone 11 
and updated and by now I am signed up on the public Beta for iOS 16.1 and I 
have no issues which give me any concern or which make me regret it. I can't 
speak for braille since I use neither braille input nor do I use my iPhone with 
a braille display so if there are bugs in that area you would have to read 
information on Applevis to inform yourself.

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Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, or 
an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.

Lelia 

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RE: "a question about updating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you make sure you chose "List" in Settings > Notification Centre?

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Casteen
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I have both phones that you mentioned. Both phones have been updated to IOS 
16.02. The only problems that I'm experiencing & neither is a deal breaker; 
Accessing Notifications is a pain & Siri can't identify a song.

Donna

> 
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RE: "a question about updating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have had no problems asking Siri to identify music for a couple of weeks now. 
Just tried it again yesterday and it worked as expected.

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Turner
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The SE 1st generation came out in 2016 and is the 4.7 inch model.  It cannot be 
updated to iOS 16.  It stops at iOS 15.7.
The SE 2020, also known as the SE 2nd generation should be able to update to 16.
The 11 certainly can.
While Siri for some odd reason cannot seem to identify music, the Shazam app 
can.  I just tested it on my 13 pro.

I have no trouble with notifications either.



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Casteen
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:18 AM
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I have both phones that you mentioned. Both phones have been updated to IOS 
16.02. The only problems that I'm experiencing & neither is a deal breaker; 
Accessing Notifications is a pain & Siri can't identify a song.

Donna

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RE: "a question about updating

[Richard Turner]

The SE 1st generation came out in 2016 and is the 4.7 inch model.  It cannot be 
updated to iOS 16.  It stops at iOS 15.7.
The SE 2020, also known as the SE 2nd generation should be able to update to 16.
The 11 certainly can.
While Siri for some odd reason cannot seem to identify music, the Shazam app 
can.  I just tested it on my 13 pro.

I have no trouble with notifications either.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I have both phones that you mentioned. Both phones have been updated to IOS 
16.02. The only problems that I'm experiencing & neither is a deal breaker; 
Accessing Notifications is a pain & Siri can't identify a song.

Donna

> 
> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, 
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Re: "a question about updating

[Donna Casteen]

I have both phones that you mentioned. Both phones have been updated to IOS 
16.02. The only problems that I'm experiencing & neither is a deal breaker; 
Accessing Notifications is a pain & Siri can't identify a song.

Donna

> 
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"a question about updating

[Lelia Struve]

Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e 20 first gen, or 
an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest IOS or no? Thanks.

Lelia 

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Re: question about updating the iPhone if you are sighted? and if any of the bugs will effect sighted people?

[Kelly Pierce]

I would definitely have them turn off automatic updates until before
iOS 15 is installed in a few weeks. Folks do not understand that Apple
needs to release the new iOS before it sells the new phones, whether
or not the software is fully ready.  No, the company will not sit on
millions of iPhones in warehouses while software engineers write code
and squash bugs.

Kelly



On 9/20/21, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> Hi ok many thanks for all of that. My folks are each in there 60’s and they
> don’t really lissen to podcasts and stuff they do have there iPhones set to
> update audomitickley. Though. And they are not into bata programs or
> anything like that. from Mich.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: question about updating the iPhone if you are sighted? and if
> any of the bugs will effect sighted people?
>
>
>
> What Kelly said about the advice given by Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast
> for the last 10 years is a good strategy if you are somebody who wants to
> play it safe. If you are really into the latest and sometimes not greatest
> then chances are you would have had the iOS 15 Public Beta installed for the
> last 2 month otherwise what harm is there in waiting at least a few days or
> a week to see what people report. If you are your family's technical
> resource and advisor listen to Rob's Podcast and read what is published on
> Mac Rumors, 9to5Mac, Tech Radar, Engadget and other credible tech websites
> and you'll be well informed.
>
>
>
> By the way, in your subject line you wrote "i phone" all lower case and as
> two words, the correct way is "iPhone", which is a lower case "i" and then
> "Phone" with an upper case "P" and all in one word.
>
>
>
>
>
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> of the bugs will efect sighted people?
>
>
>
> Hi all I realise that this is a list for blind people or vi people but I am
> wondering about updateing the phone if you are sighted? What I am wondering
> about is not to update the phone or how to do it since I know that but if
> any of the bugs will ifect sighted people who don’t use voice over? The
> reason why I am asking is because I am my folks and other members of my
> family tech guy and help them with tech and I told them about the update to
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RE: question about updating the iPhone if you are sighted? and if any of the bugs will effect sighted people?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi ok many thanks for all of that. My folks are each in there 60’s and they 
don’t really lissen to podcasts and stuff they do have there iPhones set to 
update audomitickley. Though. And they are not into bata programs or anything 
like that. from Mich.

 

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Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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of the bugs will effect sighted people?

 

What Kelly said about the advice given by Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast for 
the last 10 years is a good strategy if you are somebody who wants to play it 
safe. If you are really into the latest and sometimes not greatest then chances 
are you would have had the iOS 15 Public Beta installed for the last 2 month 
otherwise what harm is there in waiting at least a few days or a week to see 
what people report. If you are your family's technical resource and advisor 
listen to Rob's Podcast and read what is published on Mac Rumors, 9to5Mac, Tech 
Radar, Engadget and other credible tech websites and you'll be well informed.

 

By the way, in your subject line you wrote "i phone" all lower case and as two 
words, the correct way is "iPhone", which is a lower case "i" and then "Phone" 
with an upper case "P" and all in one word. 

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: question about updateing the i phone if you are sighted? and if any of 
the bugs will efect sighted people?

 

Hi all I realise that this is a list for blind people or vi people but I am 
wondering about updateing the phone if you are sighted? What I am wondering 
about is not to update the phone or how to do it since I know that but if any 
of the bugs will ifect sighted people who don’t use voice over? The reason why 
I am asking is because I am my folks and other members of my family tech guy 
and help them with tech and I told them about the update to ios 15 but then I 
thought that most of the bugs would be infecting people who use voice over and 
that got me wondering about fully sighted people and so I thought I would ask 
the list. From Mich.

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RE: question about updating the iPhone if you are sighted? and if any of the bugs will effect sighted people?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What Kelly said about the advice given by Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast for 
the last 10 years is a good strategy if you are somebody who wants to play it 
safe. If you are really into the latest and sometimes not greatest then chances 
are you would have had the iOS 15 Public Beta installed for the last 2 month 
otherwise what harm is there in waiting at least a few days or a week to see 
what people report. If you are your family's technical resource and advisor 
listen to Rob's Podcast and read what is published on Mac Rumors, 9to5Mac, Tech 
Radar, Engadget and other credible tech websites and you'll be well informed.

By the way, in your subject line you wrote "i phone" all lower case and as two 
words, the correct way is "iPhone", which is a lower case "i" and then "Phone" 
with an upper case "P" and all in one word.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 20, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question about updateing the i phone if you are sighted? and if any of 
the bugs will efect sighted people?

Hi all I realise that this is a list for blind people or vi people but I am 
wondering about updateing the phone if you are sighted? What I am wondering 
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of the bugs will ifect sighted people who don’t use voice over? The reason why 
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Re: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac

[Brad Snyder]

Glad to hear you got it figured out.
It is a learning experience.

- Brad -


On Jan 30, 2021, at 17:20, Rena  wrote:

Brad,
 
The Sidebar was not enabled, and for some reason the computer and the phone 
didn’t seem to recognize each other. I realized about that when I called Apple. 
I had to unplug and plug the phone twice.
I always updated the phone using Windows, but I wanted to learn how to use the 
Mac to update the phone.
Thanks a lot for trying to help me. I still have to learn a lot about the 
iPhone and the Mac.
 
Rena
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 5:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac
 
It says you are in a Collection, because you are using Icon view.  That 
shouldn’t matter.
 
My guess is:
1.  You do not have the Sidebar enabled, or
2.  You are not running macOS Catalina or Big Sur, or
3.  You do not have your iPhone properly connected to your Mac.
 
Again, I encourage you to go back and read my first email on this topic, and 
very carefully read every word.  I am confident you are not following the 
instructions as written.
 
- Brad -

 
On Jan 30, 2021, at 13:16, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
I read it several times, and I try to do what you say, but I don’t find it. 
When I do command shift H, it says that I’m in a collection. There I find 
desktop, dropbox and public folder.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac
 
Rena,
 
Go back and carefully read my email from earlier today. Pay close attention to 
every step. It's all in there. You're just missing some thing.
 
- Brad -

On Jan 30, 2021, at 12:47, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello,
 
I connected the iPhone 6S to the mac, and I open finder, but I don’t know what 
to do next. 
 
I don’t see the iPhone.
Please, explain in detail.
 
Rena
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RE: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac

[Rena]

Brad,

 

The Sidebar was not enabled, and for some reason the computer and the phone 
didn’t seem to recognize each other. I realized about that when I called Apple. 
I had to unplug and plug the phone twice.

I always updated the phone using Windows, but I wanted to learn how to use the 
Mac to update the phone.

Thanks a lot for trying to help me. I still have to learn a lot about the 
iPhone and the Mac.

 

Rena

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac

 

It says you are in a Collection, because you are using Icon view.  That 
shouldn’t matter.

 

My guess is:

1.  You do not have the Sidebar enabled, or

2.  You are not running macOS Catalina or Big Sur, or

3.  You do not have your iPhone properly connected to your Mac.

 

Again, I encourage you to go back and read my first email on this topic, and 
very carefully read every word.  I am confident you are not following the 
instructions as written.

 

- Brad -

 

On Jan 30, 2021, at 13:16, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I read it several times, and I try to do what you say, but I don’t find it. 
When I do command shift H, it says that I’m in a collection. There I find 
desktop, dropbox and public folder.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Brad 
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Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac

 

Rena,

 

Go back and carefully read my email from earlier today. Pay close attention to 
every step. It's all in there. You're just missing some thing.

 

- Brad -


On Jan 30, 2021, at 12:47, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello,

 

I connected the iPhone 6S to the mac, and I open finder, but I don’t know what 
to do next. 

 

I don’t see the iPhone.

Please, explain in detail.

 

Rena

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Re: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac

[Brad Snyder]

It says you are in a Collection, because you are using Icon view.  That 
shouldn’t matter.

My guess is:
1.  You do not have the Sidebar enabled, or
2.  You are not running macOS Catalina or Big Sur, or
3.  You do not have your iPhone properly connected to your Mac.

Again, I encourage you to go back and read my first email on this topic, and 
very carefully read every word.  I am confident you are not following the 
instructions as written.

- Brad -


On Jan 30, 2021, at 13:16, Rena  wrote:

I read it several times, and I try to do what you say, but I don’t find it. 
When I do command shift H, it says that I’m in a collection. There I find 
desktop, dropbox and public folder.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac
 
Rena,
 
Go back and carefully read my email from earlier today. Pay close attention to 
every step. It's all in there. You're just missing some thing.
 
- Brad -

On Jan 30, 2021, at 12:47, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello,
 
I connected the iPhone 6S to the mac, and I open finder, but I don’t know what 
to do next. 
 
I don’t see the iPhone.
Please, explain in detail.
 
Rena
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RE: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac

[Rena]

I read it several times, and I try to do what you say, but I don’t find it. 
When I do command shift H, it says that I’m in a collection. There I find 
desktop, dropbox and public folder.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac

 

Rena,

 

Go back and carefully read my email from earlier today. Pay close attention to 
every step. It's all in there. You're just missing some thing.

 

- Brad -


On Jan 30, 2021, at 12:47, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello,

 

I connected the iPhone 6S to the mac, and I open finder, but I don’t know what 
to do next. 

 

I don’t see the iPhone.

Please, explain in detail.

 

Rena

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Re: Question about updating my iPhone using the Mac

[Brad Snyder]

Rena,

Go back and carefully read my email from earlier today. Pay close attention to 
every step. It's all in there. You're just missing some thing.

- Brad -

On Jan 30, 2021, at 12:47, Rena  wrote:


Hello,
 
I connected the iPhone 6S to the mac, and I open finder, but I don’t know what 
to do next.
 
I don’t see the iPhone.
Please, explain in detail.
 
Rena
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Re: a quick question about updating my iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Yes. It sounds like you did it correctly, but Apple was behind in having it 
realize you had updated.
I've seen this kind of thing before where you did the update, then told there 
was an update.
I just power off and back on when that happens and it clears it up.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic." 
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> On Aug 8, 2019, at 4:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  I seem to have successfully updated my iPhone to 12.4.
> This morning I took a quick look at my phone and told there was an
> update available to 12.4.  I said ok when I was asked if I wanted to
> update.  I had to enter in my passcode then I saw a message verifying
> update
> .  I waited a couple minutes, then I got a message saying try again
> and I reentered my passcode.  I went to settings general about and saw
> my phone now says 12.4.  I then shut down my phone and restarted my
> phone.  Did I do the update process the correct way.
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a quick question about updating my iPhone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I seem to have successfully updated my iPhone to 12.4.
This morning I took a quick look at my phone and told there was an
update available to 12.4.  I said ok when I was asked if I wanted to
update.  I had to enter in my passcode then I saw a message verifying
update
.  I waited a couple minutes, then I got a message saying try again
and I reentered my passcode.  I went to settings general about and saw
my phone now says 12.4.  I then shut down my phone and restarted my
phone.  Did I do the update process the correct way.
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Re: Question about updating to iTunes 12

[Fanus]

Hello Neal
No, I updated to iTunes 12 2 days ago and it is not necessary to connect an 
iDevice.
Regards
Fanus

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 7:56 PM
  Subject: Question about updating to iTunes 12


  Hi all. I was about to update my wife’s iTunes to version 12, but I have a 
question. Will it ask me to connect her iPhone in the process of updating? She 
has her iPhone at work, and I didn’t want to get stuck in a place that wanted 
me to connect it if I don’t have it.

   

  Thanks for the help.

   

  Neal


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Re: Question about Updating your website with iPhone

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven't done it, but I don't see why you couldn't use a text editor, 
like Note Master or Nebulus, to markup your web page. If you're looking 
for a wysiwyg solution, I'm not sure what's out there.


On 06/15/2013 10:44 PM, Tara Prakash wrote:

Dear all. I am sure this has been addressed before and I am sorry I
was not paying attention. Nort sure what exactly to search for in he
archives. to get an answer to this question. I amwondering if you can
do html coding or add contents to your own website using iPhone? What
apps can be useful for this purpose.

On a related note, even though slightly off topic, I will appreciate
recommendation for buying a domain name. I want to have a website that
does not have external ads, unless I allow them.



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Re: Question about Updating your website with iPhone

[RobH!]

Ok, I think some of the more advanced editors - Pages for example - can do 
the markup, though I write it by hand.

Hosting is quite cheap and for sure you don't want to put your page on one 
of those ad-supported freebies.  Not sure where you are and whether UK 
companies would allow overseas hosted domains.  The name is wholly Your own 
invention, tlD or top-level-domain are price dependent,  .me.uk is quite 
cheap,  so .com, .org, .net are usally all cheap too.

Paying  for a two year ownership of your domain name tends to be separate 
from the hosting plan of so much a month or year.  I pay by the year as it 
is cheap.  e.g:  I pay £25/year for small hosting and about £12.50 for 2 
years of my domain name .hoh.me.uk,  and others.

Getting your content into that space with an iDevice might be another issue. 
You can have a creative interface like Wordpress and things, so could do 
that on your device,   but That remote app adds stuff as eye candy whether 
you want it or not.  You couldn't edit the source  on your local editor, too 
big and too complicated.

Security notwithstanding,  I wrote my own .php scripts to upload to and edit 
mine, but scripting/programming was more my thing,...   once. I had to put 
that there using ftp, so we're back to an old question about - can I find an 
ftp client for my iPhone?

Just some thoughts, RobH.
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I haven't done it, but I don't see why you couldn't use a text editor,
like Note Master or Nebulus, to markup your web page. If you're looking
for a wysiwyg solution, I'm not sure what's out there.

On 06/15/2013 10:44 PM, Tara Prakash wrote:
 Dear all. I am sure this has been addressed before and I am sorry I
 was not paying attention. Nort sure what exactly to search for in he
 archives. to get an answer to this question. I amwondering if you can
 do html coding or add contents to your own website using iPhone? What
 apps can be useful for this purpose.

 On a related note, even though slightly off topic, I will appreciate
 recommendation for buying a domain name. I want to have a website that
 does not have external ads, unless I allow them.


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Re: Question about Updating your website with iPhone

[Bob Straughn, WR4FSU, LAPTOP]

Tara, please contact me off-list  we can discuss this with you.

Bob in Florida

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Subject: Question about Updating your website with iPhone



Dear all. I am sure this has been addressed before and I am sorry I
was not paying attention. Nort sure what exactly to search for in he
archives. to get an answer to this question. I amwondering if you can
do html coding or add contents to your own website using iPhone? What
apps can be useful for this purpose.

On a related note, even though slightly off topic, I will appreciate
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RE: Question about updating maps for Navigon.

[Mike Cassidy]

Hello listers,

On a similar line, if you have bought Navigon in the UK, do you have to 
purchase another Navigon programme if you wish to use Navigon in the US, or can 
you purchase North American maps to use with your original version?

Thanks for any help,

Regards,

Mike

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Sent: 12 May 2013 15:54
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Subject: Re: Question about updating maps for Navigon.

You get free updates for a certain amount of time, then they cost money.



On 5/12/2013 04:58, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
   Hi list,
 please does anyone know how it is with updating maps for Navigon?
 Are maps updates free of charge or do you have to pay extra money for 
 maps updates once you have purchased Navigon?
 I am just asking because someone told me, in Navigon extras there is 
 something like maps update and it cost about 35 dollars.
 Is there anyway to find out if I have all my maps updated?
 Thank you very much for your help; it will be very highly appreciated.
 With kind regards
 Maria


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Re: Question about updating maps for Navigon.

[Chris Hill]

You get free updates for a certain amount of time, then they cost money.



On 5/12/2013 04:58, Mária Orovčíková wrote:

  Hi list,
please does anyone know how it is with updating maps for Navigon?
Are maps updates free of charge or do you have to pay extra money for
maps updates once you have purchased Navigon?
I am just asking because someone told me, in Navigon extras there is
something like maps update and it cost about 35 dollars.
Is there anyway to find out if I have all my maps updated?
Thank you very much for your help; it will be very highly appreciated.
With kind regards
Maria



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Re: Question about updating maps for Navigon.

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hello Maria,

You get occasional map updates with no charge, but you can pay for a service 
that I think is called FreshMaps that gives you much more frequent updates.

HTH,
Anna

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 please does anyone know how it is with updating maps for Navigon?
 Are maps updates free of charge or do you have to pay extra money for maps 
 updates once you have purchased Navigon?
 I am just asking because someone told me, in Navigon extras there is 
 something like maps update and it cost about 35 dollars.
 Is there anyway to find out if I have all my maps updated?
 Thank you very much for your help; it will be very highly appreciated.
 With kind regards
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Re: Question about updating ios.

[chris hallsworth]

Maria why do you not want to update? Unless it is jailbroken it is 
strongly advised you update the phone to fix bugs and improve security 
and stability of the OS. Just my £0.02 worth. Most of us have updated 
with no issues at all.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 15/05/2012 11:16, Mária Orovčíková wrote:

Hi list,
a few days ago, I have noticed a kind of new event in notification area
(notification center) on my iphone. It is saying that the update for ios
is available. It is also stated the update have been downloaded to the
phone.
I really do not feel like I want to update it at the moment. I thing I
really did not activate the option for updating ios software automatically.
So my questions are:
Is it somehow possible to set the iphone not to update automatically and
not to get notifications of this kind?
Can I remove already dowloaded software from the phone (I mean the setup
not the installed version).
Is it also possible to cancel the item in the notification area?
Thank you for your help.
Have a nice day.
Maria



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Re: Question about updating ios.

[Mária Orovčíková]

Chris and all,
I just thought I would wait til next update is available because I have 
heard from someone that there is no need to update to new version of ios 
and that with this update there are battery issues again.
Have anyone noticed the problem with battery going down very quickly 
even when you do nothing with the iphone?
I have had battery issues when I was on ios4, but since I have updated 
to 5, the battery life has been fixed.

Thank you Chris and all for your help.
This list is really wonderful and I always get help from all of you.
Keep up the good job.
Maria

On 15.5.2012 12:55, chris hallsworth wrote:

Maria why do you not want to update? Unless it is jailbroken it is
strongly advised you update the phone to fix bugs and improve security
and stability of the OS. Just my £0.02 worth. Most of us have updated
with no issues at all.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 15/05/2012 11:16, Mária Orovčíková wrote:

Hi list,
a few days ago, I have noticed a kind of new event in notification area
(notification center) on my iphone. It is saying that the update for ios
is available. It is also stated the update have been downloaded to the
phone.
I really do not feel like I want to update it at the moment. I thing I
really did not activate the option for updating ios software
automatically.
So my questions are:
Is it somehow possible to set the iphone not to update automatically and
not to get notifications of this kind?
Can I remove already dowloaded software from the phone (I mean the setup
not the installed version).
Is it also possible to cancel the item in the notification area?
Thank you for your help.
Have a nice day.
Maria





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Re: Question about updating ios.

[chris hallsworth]

Maria what you hear is often untrue and unfounded. I am not having any 
battery issues on my iPhone 4 running iOS 5.1.1. Haven't updated the 
iPod Touch yet though lol.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 15/05/2012 12:07, Mária Orovčíková wrote:

Chris and all,
I just thought I would wait til next update is available because I have
heard from someone that there is no need to update to new version of ios
and that with this update there are battery issues again.
Have anyone noticed the problem with battery going down very quickly
even when you do nothing with the iphone?
I have had battery issues when I was on ios4, but since I have updated
to 5, the battery life has been fixed.
Thank you Chris and all for your help.
This list is really wonderful and I always get help from all of you.
Keep up the good job.
Maria

On 15.5.2012 12:55, chris hallsworth wrote:

Maria why do you not want to update? Unless it is jailbroken it is
strongly advised you update the phone to fix bugs and improve security
and stability of the OS. Just my £0.02 worth. Most of us have updated
with no issues at all.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 15/05/2012 11:16, Mária Orovčíková wrote:

Hi list,
a few days ago, I have noticed a kind of new event in notification area
(notification center) on my iphone. It is saying that the update for ios
is available. It is also stated the update have been downloaded to the
phone.
I really do not feel like I want to update it at the moment. I thing I
really did not activate the option for updating ios software
automatically.
So my questions are:
Is it somehow possible to set the iphone not to update automatically and
not to get notifications of this kind?
Can I remove already dowloaded software from the phone (I mean the setup
not the installed version).
Is it also possible to cancel the item in the notification area?
Thank you for your help.
Have a nice day.
Maria







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