I have a question for Braille Touch developers:
My native language is Turkish and I also use German. Will Braille Touch support
these alphabets, too?
Emin
From: BrailleTouch
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone
Hi Emin.
The first release of BrailleTouch is in English. We hope to support
other languages in the future.
Best,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com/
On 1/10/2013 4:52 AM, M. Emin Demirci wrote:
I have a question for Braille Touch developers:
My native language is Turkish and I also use
Is there going to be a way to edit with BrailleTouch? One of my biggest
frustrations with Fleksy is that if you write an email, re-read and then
want to fix some word 2 or 3 lines back, or even re-write something, it
cannot be done right there on the screen before actually putting it into
email or
No. I think there was already a discussion of this and I think the upshot was
that unless Apple allows alternative keyboards, this can't be done. Maybe I'm
oversimplifying, but this is the conclusion I drew.
--
Cheryl
May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to
Oh that's good to know! I stand corrected on my later comment about editing and
in this case i am glad to stand corrected.
--
Cheryl
May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:01 PM,
Hi Rob,
The recommended way of using BrailleTouch is with two hands in landscape
mode, with the screen facing away from you. You can read Holding the
Phone on our User Guide:
http://brailletouchapp.com/ios-guide.html
Some people have reported success using BrailleTouch in a non-standard
Hi.
I will try the app out. I would also like the app to support the danish letters.
Best regards Annie.
Den Dec 30, 2012 kl. 12:42 PM skrev Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk:
Hi.
I can't wait to check out this app. Is other languages than english going to
be supported? I'm especially
I tried it, twists the wrists a bit peculiar, not good position to type in.
But urgonomics aside, it would work flat if that's what they want. you
might have to lock orientation since the app needs to know which way is UP!
- Original Message -
From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
Why can't we put the phone down when brailling? I think holding it while
typing would be awkward.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of liz and sammie
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Dulce,
Thanks for your question. We designed BrailleTouch so that you hold it in
two hands with the screen facing away from you. However, some people have
reported success placing the phone flat on a table and typing with
BrailleTouch. You can download BrailleTouch for free and try it out,
After visiting the braille touch web site and reading about this app, I for
one am going to try this app, and if I love it, I will gladly pay for
something that makes using an IPhone easier. I use a blue tooth keyboard
which is wonderful, but if I am traveling and want to update my facebook
I agree with your sentiments here. While I love my apple Wireless
Keyboard and can cope with the on-screen keyboard, BrailleTouch will be
so amazing and I'm planning to demonstrate this app as much as I can
once I can get hold of it. I am even saving my App Store credit just so
I can unlock
Oh this is much better! I didn't mind the initial offering, but I
thought it was a strange tactic as most apps allow you to upgrade to the
full version once, and all features are unlocked. Take a look at Fleksy
for example.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 02/01/2013 18:04, BrailleTouch wrote:
There have been several posts about the keyboard layout of BrailleTouch.
Here is some more information. I hope this helps.
Your left index finger is dot 1. Your left ring finger is dot 3. Your right
index finger is dot 4. And so forth. So these are the same fingers you
would use when typing on
Hi Gena,
Thanks for your questions. BrailleTouch supports Grade 1 braille, including
letters, numbers, and most punctuation from the BANA standards. It is not
computer braille. You can use the capital sign, number sign, and letter
sign. The period, or full stop, is dots 2 5 6. The decimal
The confusion starts when you read the details, about the way you grip your
phone in particular, and find this is not really anything like a Perkins...
which is all fingers in a single line. To be honest, that was a leap of
imagination when first introduced and we were all used to working in
I don't remember seeing a complete chart of these codes on the site; are
they? where?
Thanks, nice to see the good old fashioned full stop back with us.
RobH.
- Original Message -
From: BrailleTouch viph...@brailletouchapp.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: r...@o2.co.uk
Sent:
Those are left/right swipes, use the second finger I think. The user guide
and FAQ are both on the site so we can get up to speed with the details in
advance.
I hope it is up to speed with VO commands like that!
- Original Message -
From: Georgina Joyce r...@o2.co.uk
To:
But we write with multiple fingers when using a braille display on our IOS
devices so why the complaints now because it's an App?
Kawal.
On 30 Dec 2012, at 05:12 PM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
Yes'ish! It'll do the same when you're done paying; but you do get to type
with all
I will have to try it, however, I normally use a braille display with my I
phone. Type-in-Braille was what I was referring to. In the past when I tried
that one, I found it very difficult to use because when you pressed a
combination of letters, the keys use to stay down and so the correct
Hi Kawal,
With BrailleTouch, you type each braille chord on your touchscreen with the
same six fingers you would use on a Perkins Brailler or similar keyboard.
The app will speak each character you type immediately. You can also choose
to hear each word you type, or both characters and words,
type in braille is quite different from what I understand brailletouch will be.
It usually took more than one tap to do a letter; for instance, l was three
taps on the left; letters were broken up into components depending on where the
dots of the cell fell. With this, if I understand
Yes, this is another thing I like about BrailleTouch compared to Fleksy and
Type In Braille (btw I got fairly fast with Type in Braille so I'm expecting to
do quite well with BrailleTouch as it will be much more straightforward). I
like hearing my letters when I type them and not having to
Caleb,
Are you planning on releasing Braille Touch for iPad, or is it not possible?
Andrew
On 31 Dec 2012, at 14:25, BrailleTouch viph...@brailletouchapp.com wrote:
Hi Kawal,
With BrailleTouch, you type each braille chord on your touchscreen with the
same six fingers you would use on a
Hello,
If I understand it right. The phone is held to provide a more like
stainsby / shorthand machine formation rather than a perkins? As with
the stainsby, could the keys be reversed? For those used to writing
braille on a frame or the standard stainsby? i.e. The letter a dot 1
generated
Can I ask you to reconsider the term chord! Those were always used,
hitherto; to relate to using the space key as a modifyer to get control
hcaracters; S chord for Status, P chord for Print, O chord for Options, and
things like that.
The six dots for the character or symbol are just that,
I didn't see it in the Apple Store.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BrailleTouch
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in
Hi all. I think one thing we all have to remember is that it costs money to
develop these aps. is the price for the ap a bit steep? Yes, but, if it helps
them make the changes you all are asking them to make in future releases...
shouldn't we suport them so they can do that? As an avid braille
It's not coming out till late January, according to the original message in
this thread.
HtH,
Teresa
Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman
On Dec 31, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Dulce Weisenborn d...@lifedesigns-inc.com wrote:
I didn't see it in the Apple
I'm looking forward to trying out this app. I agree with what Jennifer
Barr said wholeheartedly that it costs money to develop these apps so
I'll try the free version and if I like it I plan on using my gift cards
to buy the app.
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Sorry, no, it can only flipped upside down. original and interpoint is too
far back for anyone to want to try it. Glad someone else remembers too,
mind.
Dot 1 would be first finger left hand, or flipped, 3rd finger left hand;
that's it, that's enough!
RobH.
- Original Message -
Actually, according to the user guide, it appears to me that the default layout
will be just like a Perkins brailler. You hold the phone in landscape mode with
the screen away from you. Then your left index finger will be dot 1, left
middle dot 2, and the finger next to your pinky will be dot
Seriously? Let's not start quibbling over what term is used for things.
The list traffic is enough without this useless type of message. Whether
the term space with, or cord is used, I think we get the intent of
the meaning behind the message.
Thanks - Moderator.
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Hi Andrew,
At this time, we are releasing BrailleTouch for the iPhone and iPod touch.
The iPad is indeed an interesting platform, but poses different challenges
for touchscreen braille writing. In the academic research where we
developed the BrailleTouch prototype, we also built and tried out
Hello,
I'm sure it will be a lot clearer when the app is installed on the
phone. I've got quite slim fingers and holding the phone to align them
in perkins formation doesn't work as the phone isn't long enough.
Coincidently, what fingers do the forward and backward spaces?
Thanks.
Gena
Hello,
Hah! I see the user guide. I think a few people will find it confusing
because of using the perkin's layout analogy. Perkin's layout of the
keys are linear but are to be folded to fit on the phone's screen.
I see the space gestures too. And I can reverse them too. Pity the
stainsby
Guys, please excuse my ignorance. I have been working a lot and haven't had
time to follow these posts. I started reading about this app tonight for the
first time. When will it be availible? I'm sure this has been discussed over
and over, but I missed it.
Hi Candy,
BrailleTouch will be on the App Store by the end of January. Thanks for
your interest!
Best,
Caleb
http://BrailleTouchApp.com/
On Monday, December 31, 2012 11:36:24 PM UTC-5, Candy wrote:
Guys, please excuse my ignorance. I have been working a lot and haven't
had time to follow
Hi all. Let's all remember that the necessary information was given at
the start of this thread by the developer. If you all just go and visit
the site your questions will be answered and the list traffic will not
be saturated with the same questions and answers over and over. smile.
This is
I don't understand your term: folded. As far as I can tell, your two hands will
be along the long side of the iphone and the layout will be exactly like that
of the Perkins keyboard. I don't see anything folded about it but maybe I'm
misunderstanding the concept.
--
Cheryl
May the words of
The phone is definitely long enough for my fingers because it's in landscape
position.Actually there's even enough space on my 4s because I don't think you
are putting a space bar or key in between. That's partly why they mention
putting a case on the phone, so that in using your fingers on the
Hi.
I can't wait to check out this app. Is other languages than english going to be
supported? I'm especially thinking about the danish characters.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
Den 27/12/2012 kl. 13.31 skrev BrailleTouch
Hi friends:
Is this app similar to the type in braille app that is currently available on
the app store?
Regards.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
Em 30/12/2012, às 09:42, Søren Jensen escreveu:
Hi.
I can't wait to check out this app. Is other languages than english going to
be
Hello all.
I thought I would chime in with my views on the upcoming release of
BrailleTouch.
Like Fleksy, this will be a revolutionary way of typing on the iOs devices
except for the iPad as the initial release will not be supported.
I can't wait to check out the app myself.
While I appreciate
Hi Marcos,
Since the app has not yet been released nobody can really tell you more than
what the description of the developer said.
They did mention that once it is released towards the end of January that
there will be a free version which allows you to try it.
If you have the Type and
Yes, I'm also very excited about this new way of keyboard entry. Last night I
read the description and held my phone that way and tried to imagine the
different character entries and it felt very natural to me and like I could do
it very quickly enven initially in grade one braille.
--
Cheryl
With the clib board upgrade, can we use it with whatsapp or any program?
Cheers:
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Ramy,
If you bought both in-app updates you could copy text to your clipboard and
whatever is on the clipboard can be pasted into any edit field no matter
what app you are in.
But according to the description, at this point the developers will force
you to buy the messages update for $9.99 first
Since I do not use Flexi, do any of you know how to use this new App yet?
Kawal.
On 30 Dec 2012, at 04:23 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello all.
I thought I would chime in with my views on the upcoming release of
BrailleTouch.
Like Fleksy, this will be a
Fleksy is only charging $4.95 and provides the ability to use the text in
Emails, Messages, Twitter or copy it to the clipboard.
If the Braille Touch sticks with their pricing plan of $19.98 for the entire
pacakage, I will certainly be encouraging people to not buy it.
I think it is way over
Hi,
Each to their own, I would not discourage people from buying it if they wanted.
I do think it is way overpriced and I think Fleksy is a better alternative for
me as it can be used one-handed which this app cannot.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
On 31/12/2012, at 10:36 AM, Richard Turner
Bret,
I did not say I would discourage anyone from buying it, I said I wouldn't
encourage them to buy it. There is a difference. If someone wants to spend
their money, they shoud do it. But as I train people how to use these devices
and am looked to by a lot of people for recommendations of
Hi Richard, agreed, I would encourage most people looking for alternatives to
go with Fleksy. However for those who are really keen on Braile I do think that
this app does have its place, even if it is overpriced.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
On 31/12/2012, at 11:11 AM, Richard Turner
I don't think it makes sense at all frankly! The app hasn't even come out yet
and you guys are arguing about whether to encourage or discourage or not
encourage or not discourage people from buying it. i plan to try the app out
and if I like it and feel it helps me significantly and I have the
I would be curious as I actually tested my typing with flexy with someone
who was sighted and found that I could match the speed with flexy as a
sighted person who was typing on their own phone.
I have not enough sight to see my phone, so, it was interesting to see.
As for typing in braille,
First of all, while I know a lot of people like fleksy, I don't particularly. I
like to hear what i'm typing when I type it for one thing. But that doesn't
mean I think it's a bad app just because it isn't right for me.
Secondly, the question of multiple fingers slowing one down is a good one
Richard,
I don't think it's up to you to actively discourage people not to buy an
app, if you decide it's too expensive then don't buy it, but everybody has
to make that choice.
When Fleksy was released they charged more as well and no trial version was
available jfor some time. At least the
Yes'ish! It'll do the same when you're done paying; but you do get to type
with all 6 fingers like real braille.
RobH.
- Original Message -
From: Marcos Rodrigues mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing
The user guide and FAQ are both on their site, I read them; but practice
will be the key to it I think.
- Original Message -
From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app
Hi Richard,
Thanks for your post. There is a free version of BrailleTouch. We hope this
will be useful for braille instructors, as well as for people who want to
try the app out. You do not have to buy an upgrade to use it with your
students.
The free version goes beyond the research
Hi Penny,
Thanks for your reply! The initial release of BrailleTouch supports Grade
1. However Grade 2 contracted braille is our top priority for a future
update, and we are working it. We are very excited about the upcoming
release on the App Store, and we hope you like BrailleTouch and find
All the blurb is on their site; and when I finished reading it? I
was less happy about chasing it. They could do Demo and Pro or full
versions, the idea of paying twice as an in-app feature bothers me for some
reason. Paying the first time before it starts to do something useful is
You type braille using all 6 fingers like a real braillist; and there's
caveats even then. BGut more intuitive than the typein braille method,
though I got reasonable good at that.
RobH.
- Original Message -
From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent:
$9.99 for each of the two updates, done in app.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:29 PM
Subject: RE: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille
on your touchscreen
Hi Søren,
The initial release of BrailleTouch is in English. However we hope to
support other languages in future updates.
Thanks,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com
On Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:42:04 AM UTC-5, Søren Jensen wrote:
Hi.
I can't wait to check out this app. Is other languages
Hi Kawal,
Which other braille typing app are you referring to.
BrailleTouch is very different from TypeInBraille. You can type on
BrailleTouch with the same six fingers you use on a Perkins-style keyboard.
Our testers were able to transfer their skills from a standard Braille
keyboard to
This sort of reminds me of when Fleksy first came out. The same
discussions went back and forth. One of the prominent ones was about the
price too.
--
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Greetings and Happy Holidays!
My name is Caleb, and I'm one of the developers of a new iPhone app called
BrailleTouch. BrailleTouch allows you to type using braille on your
touchscreen, and is based on the standard six key braille keyboard. We are
excited to announce that BrailleTouch will be
Greetings and Happy Holidays!
My name is Caleb, and I'm one of the developers of a new iPhone app
called BrailleTouch. BrailleTouch allows you to type using braille on
your touchscreen, and is based on the standard six key braille keyboard.
We are excited to announce that BrailleTouch will be
Hi Caleb, This is very exciting news. Are you planning for an option
to use Grade II (contracted) braille, and if so, how soon?
Did your group present a demo of the BrailleTouch system last year on
the Accessible World channel?
Thanks so much for the information. I predict that your app will
Hi,
Do you have prices for the various upgrades yet?
I am a braille instructor and have been looking forward to when this would
be released.
Thanks,
Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BrailleTouch
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012
What's so different about this one, as I could not use the other one that was
in the App Store. If it had grade 2 support then I'd be keen to try it.
On 27 Dec 2012, at 12:31 PM, BrailleTouch viph...@brailletouchapp.com wrote:
Greetings and Happy Holidays!
My name is Caleb, and I'm one of
Kaleb,
Will BrailleTouch support contracted Braille?
On Dec 24, 2012, at 3:12 PM, BrailleTouch wrote:
Greetings and Happy Holidays!
My name is Caleb, and I'm one of the developers of a new iPhone app called
BrailleTouch. BrailleTouch allows you to type using braille on your
touchscreen,
I was waiting for this app, and i hope that the idea of typing is better than
flexy.
- Original Message -
From: BrailleTouch
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:31 PM
Subject: Introducing BrailleTouch - an iPhone app for typing in braille on
your
Hi Richard,.
It's twenty dollars US, as stated in her message below. Far to expensive when
compared to other keyboard apps. Plus at this stage it only does north American
grade 1 Braille with no other variants and no grade 2 Braille.
Sent from Brett's iPhone
On 30/12/2012, at 9:29 AM,
Hi Bret,
Thanks. I missed the dollar amounts in her message, but found them later
ontheir web site.
I agree, far too expensive for a keyboard app.
The fact that you have to buy the messaging upgrade to buy the clipboard
upgrade is stupid.
They should just offer the clipboard copy function for
If it works as good as they claim and if Grade 2 support is on the drawing
board then $20 maybe OK, but I think like Fleksy they should just offer a
free version and 1 paid version which then contains all features (messages,
email, Facebook, Twitter and Clipboard). Then if they maybe made it
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