RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Ron Pelletier
eeha Dudley Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I could and did replicate this problem. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier mailto:ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> > wrote: Hi, I think you’r

RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Chris Smart
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure Hi, That's because the original person who wrote about this didn't real

RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Alan Lemly
Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure Hi, That's because the original person who wrote about this didn't realize he was pushing the home button to invoke S

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Aleeha Dudley
gt; I’m using a 5S > I thought it strange that you could get in that easily. > > Ron & Danvers > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Joney > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 11:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re

RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Ron Pelletier
, if its not your finger, it doesn’t work Ron & Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer se

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Ron Pelletier
] On Behalf Of Joney Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 11:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just

Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Alan Lemly
d not change nor did the iPhone 6 unlock. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi Joney,

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2015-04-27 Thread Joney
Sounds like a good idea. I probably will. I had left it on, because it's easier, silly me. :-) Joney "If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it." > On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > > Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from being used

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from being used without unlocking your device. To enable this, in iOS 8 you'll find it in Settings, Touch ID and Passcode, under the Allow Access when locked section. Turn Siri off from there. Actually I would turn pretty much everything o

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Joney
Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney "If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it."

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Margaret Booth
I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley wrote: > > So, > I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass > every single security on the phone. > This will bypass yo

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Pelletier
PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with a number of your points. You said: On 4/26/15, Aman Singer wrote: > A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The > passcode/fingerprint is simply security thea

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Terje Strømberg
did it would be all over the internet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc wright Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I am running the latest iso and this does by pass the

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, April 27, 2015 3:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I am running the latest iso and this does by pass the touch id. Just as he described. It didn't at first but it did the second time. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@ic

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Andrea Roveretto
nd my fingernail to press the home button and was right in. - Original Message - *From:* Andrea Roveretto <mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:40 PM *Subject:* Re:

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Robert Doc wright
I too stand corrected. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Robert Doc wright
It didn't make a difference in my case. I double tapped the weather channel and my fingernail to press the home button and was right in. - Original Message - From: Andrea Roveretto To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Iphon

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Robert Doc wright
when you double tap the weather channel it takes you directly into safari. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not sure then. Unless it's something

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Robert Doc wright
I am running the latest iso and this does by pass the touch id. Just as he described. It didn't at first but it did the second time. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer s

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Brent Harding
unday, April 26, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Could it be because you have Touch ID enabled? I'm just guessing since I still have an iPhone 4S. On 4/26/2015 3:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Christopher, I have set mine to “Immediately” and int

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2015-04-26 Thread Chris Smart
m] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earli

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2015-04-26 Thread Chris Smart
: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Chris Smart
yeah. it's reading your fingerprint as you hold the button down. At 02:44 PM 4/26/2015, you wrote: I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same finger you used to set a fingerprint, it won't work. But, if you hold the home button with a fingerp

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Aman Singer
en think about what is on their phone, they just apply the quickest security method and leave it there. Aman From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Aman Singer
lar example was wrong, but he still shouldn't be surprised if one day the avoidance is possible, it has been before and I have no doubt will be again. Aman ph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:31 PM To:

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with a number of your points. You said: On 4/26/15, Aman Singer wrote: > A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The > passcode/fingerprint is simply security theatre, it makes things look > secure and may be secure against someone who doesn't h

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread David Chittenden
I am unable to reproduce this with either an iPhone 5S or an iPhone 6+. Are you certain you are not activating the fingerprint unlock sensor? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:14, Jeremy Gilley wrote: >

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
*Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:54 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but there is an option where you can only require a passcode after you haven't used your phone for a certain period of time. Go into Sett

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
change this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher J Chaltain Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not exactly sure what you're s

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
hone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi Jeremy and all, Around fifteen years ago now, someone at Microsoft wrote something he called the ten immutable laws of security https://tech

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
I agree passcodes are not a silver bullet when it comes to security, but as my father used to say, "Locks are just meant to keep honest people out." A passcode will keep someone from doing some casual snooping, and if I ever lose my iPhone, will give me time to contact my carrier and report it

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but there is an option where you can only require a passcode after you haven't used your phone for a certain period of time. Go into Settings -> Passcode and see what the require passcode option is set to. Mine is set to after one minute. On 4/26/2015 1

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2015-04-26 Thread Lois Butterfield
@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I have my phone to have the finger print or the 4 didget code. I have made sure I

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Lois Butterfield
: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Aman Singer
Hi Jeremy and all, Around fifteen years ago now, someone at Microsoft wrote something he called the ten immutable laws of security https://technet.microsoft.com/library/cc722487.aspx The whole thing is worth reading, but one of the laws or more accurately descriptions, says: Law #3: If a bad guy

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
You must be touching your finger on the home button. As others have said I cannot replicate your situation. On 4/26/15, Richard Turner wrote: > I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. > If you don't use the same finger you used to set a fingerprint, it won't > work.

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi, It's because of touch ID. If you have chosen to use touch ID to unlock your phone & you ask Siri the temperature you can access Safari as you say, but if you don't use touch ID to unlock the phone you are prompted to enter your passcode. Cheers, Ben. On 4/26/15, Alex Hall wrote: > I'm not s

RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure problem solved

2015-04-26 Thread Jeremy Gilley
il 26, 2015 2:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I have my phone to have the finger print or

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Richard Turner
I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same finger you used to set a fingerprint, it won't work. But, if you hold the home button with a fingerprinted finger, it seems like you've bypassed the security but you have not. If anyone is worried abou

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2015-04-26 Thread Jeremy Gilley
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Andrea Roveretto
You are right... I just tried now using another finger and it will ask me for the code when I click on the weather channel button. Il 26/04/2015 20:37, Alex Hall ha scritto: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pres

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Alex Hall
I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? > On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto > wrote: > > yes I have the last available update

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Andrea Roveretto
yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest i

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Alex Hall
I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time p

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Andrea Roveretto
I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger pr

Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Jeremy Gilley
So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In