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Make sure you note his hair color and eye color.  these might be something else you might be asked to identify your husband. Dave On 11/14/2023 1:21 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: I have considered the same thing when it comes to not only my wife, but also both of my kids. there is a couple of

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Dido, Marilyn, and like you say, all minds do not work alike. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MARILYN AND DON BILDERBACK Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 8:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Be My AI and what

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I have carried out accademic studies at some depth into the role of facial experessions and other types of what is sometimes termed body language. Firstly it is not possible to determine someone's inner emotional state from expressions reliably. Just because someone is smiling it does not

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Hi friends, I am from India and have been using AI for a while. There are plusses and minusses in every technology and I am shocked that we are wasting so much of time for this. Look at it this way. I am able to achieve quite a few things with AI that I couldn't otherwise. and of course, we

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Yes, have experienced this with some shoe polish: I have a small amount of sight and thought, along with my father-in-law who is sighted, that it was black; my mother-in-law, also sighted, thought it was brown. All the best Angie > On 14 Nov 2023, at 16:15, Carolyn Arnold

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Yeah um I am fine with the subjective descriptions. At least it gives me an idea of what someones expression may be. I love knowing what things look like, and even fine details if someone is very descriptive when talking about something. I wish AI tools were built into more things so I could take

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Well, if you're just speaking for yourself then you have the option of just not using an AI tool that provides these suggestive opinions. If you don't think others should have the option of using these tools then all I'd say is that I appreciate these tools and the subjective descriptions. I

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Ah, very good! I'd prefer the first description though since it also talks about build and the facial expression. I guess anything that touches on complexion, build or facial expression could get touchy though. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message-

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John has hit the nail exactly on the head. I don’t want some anonymous AI programmed by God knows who with whatever dark algorithm that nobody knows about telling me what’s there and making subjective judgments about it. It’s just a bad idea. And there are plenty of examples in the news where

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Carolyn, me too! My husband describes all kinds of things as we drive or eat out in a restaurant. He will do this without me asking and I love to know what is around me. Onetime while eating out with a friend in another state, Don mentioned that their were canoes attached to the ceiling

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My point -- and then I'll let this go and not comment -- is that I do not want a machine large language model providing me with subjective opinions about people, their expressions, etc. I think that should be reserved for human to human interaction. Who knows if the description is accurate? Who

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Only, that is not a complete description. Like it or not, all of us have facial expression, and that is a part of what we look like. Of course, expressions vary, but they are a part of a person's face. -Original Message- From: realman02 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]

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This is how I would rephrase the description: >The man in the picture has a fair complexion. His hair is short and appears to >be a mix of gray and black, and he has a full head of hair. His eyes are >partially closed. His nose is prominent and he has full lips. He is wearing a dark-colored

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Looks tells a lot of things.  Whether you are happy or sad.  If you are grinning they think you are laughting just for a few things. Dave On 11/12/2023 7:52 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: Hello friends. I appreciate that none of you know me personally and like me have no idea what I look like.

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I asked Jim what he looked like, when we first started seeing each other. I want to know what color everything is, what kind of cars everyone drives, what's in style, all that sight stuff that I don't have now. I want to know what color the furniture is, what color the floor covering, cabinets

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I have considered the same thing when it comes to not only my wife, but also both of my kids. there is a couple of things you can do. First, keep a picture of your husband on your phone and mark it as a favorite in your photos so it is easy to find. Second, ask a couple of family members to

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You may have a point here as I am interested to know what people look like and amsurprised when they turn out not to be at all like I'd imagined. It troubles me a little to realise, as I write this, that I have no idea what my husband now looks like. If he went missing, there is very little I

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Well said, Alison. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us? We live in a world where predominantly

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I agree with Sieghard. My guess, and this is only a guess is that the ones of us who have had some or full sight are more willing to hear what Be My A I might say about our expression. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

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Try asking two or more sighted people how something looks, and odds are you will get two or more different answers. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kellie Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 9:21 PM To:

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We live in a world where predominantly people have vision and, as a minority, it is up to us to adapt. Sighted people have mentioned to me how uncomfortable they feel when talking to a blind person who doesn't turn to face them when talking. A smile doesn't just indicate that you are happy, it

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I'd agree here one hundred percent. One description of my dog was "soulful eyes" and every single person I have mentioned this too has agreed. Alison -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 4:13 AM To:

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I would agree with Sieghard, but I suspect what Mary and others are getting at is not what they choose to use or not but what others are using and how that might affect how they interpret the world based on those AI generated descriptions. As Mary says though, anytime you're getting a

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Well I did some Googling on whether facial expressions are universal, and here's a good article about that: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/darwin-was-wrong-your-facial-expressions-do-not-reveal-your-emotions/ Turns out that those AI interpretations are not necessarily reliable.

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Anybody who does not like or agree with some of the interpretations of the AI is free not to use the service. Just as you may not appreciate it, I have so far felt that even descriptions which included descriptions of facial expressions were actually amazingly correct when I asked sighted

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Then next time don’t hold your coffee beans with your hairy arm 藍 From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 1:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us? This topic reminds me of these two articles.

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I'm loving the artificial intelligence breakthroughs. As for our facial expressions, look at it this way, it is mostly a sighted world and most of our light dependent friends equate smiles and attentive facial expressions in a favorable way; regardless of the culture from which we hail. Find

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I do not want to know what some artificial intelligence thinks somebody’s expression means. Cultural stuff hugely influences that sort of thing. And as a totally blind person from birth, I can’t tell you how many times people have asked me why are you angry? Because I’m not smiling. Apparently

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Good points, Kelly. The reason it bothers me is that it's not human-to-human interaction; it's a large language model that's making those judgements. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kellie Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 9:21 PM To:

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I think the other thing that people need to keep in mind, it’s just because an artificial intelligence says that’s your expression doesn’t mean you have to believe it. You can ask follow-up questions. The beauty is we have deductive reasoning and can make that determination with further input.

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I agree with that. The Be my A I is just telling us what we'd see, if we could - hairy arm; stern expression. I would want it to tell me what it sees. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright Sent: Monday,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 1:08:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us? Well I’m interested to learn that I am not the only one here that roasts his

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Well I’m interested to learn that I am not the only one here that roasts his own coffee!  I have done so for around 20 years.Welcome to the club.Here in the UK I buy from hasbean.Malcolm ParfittOn 13 Nov 2023, at 22:05, Cristobal Munoz wrote:Good one… On Nov 13, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Robert Doc

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Good one… On Nov 13, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Robert Doc Wright wrote: What is wrong with the truth? - Original Message - From: Cristóbal Muñoz To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 2:09 PM Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

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What is wrong with the truth? - Original Message - From: Cristóbal Muñoz To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 2:09 PM Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us? This topic reminds me of these two articles. Blind Olympic athletes show the

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This topic reminds me of these two articles. Blind Olympic athletes show the universal nature of pride and shame The role of visual experience in the production of

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What did your friend say about your expression? I assume it described you as "serious" because you weren't smiling. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 4:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Be My AI and

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I never really did think about that, but that is an interesting question for sure that is quite interesting and I think it’s amazing how this really can work now it gives really good descriptions and I think that’s pretty cool Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 12, 2023, at 9:39 PM,

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I never really did give it any thought about that. Meaning the expressions. It’s just something I never thought of. But quite interesting for sure. However, I think it’s pretty cool with the descriptions. Really really neat. I haven’t played too much with it, but just reading you guys and what

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'a'a From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of The Evil Chocolate Cookie Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 3:58:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us? That’s the one thing I’m going to miss during my android

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That’s the one thing I’m going to miss during my android transition process because who knows when we are going to get it. That service is incredible. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2023, at 9:56 PM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote: > > Be My AI is a tab in the Be My Eyes app. It's free and

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Be My AI is a tab in the Be My Eyes app. It's free and no longer in beta. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 8:29 PM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Be My AI and

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This description is a great example of what really disturbs me about these AI descriptions of images. "His eyes are partially closed, and he has a somewhat stern or serious expression on his face." I'm not even mentioning the "appears to be of a comfortable fit " about the shirt. Chat GPT

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be my aies free? From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Brandon Olivares Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 3:28:42 AM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us? That is really cool. Is there any way for me to get access to Be My AI or is it

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That is really cool. Is there any way for me to get access to Be My AI or is it closed to beta users still? I’ve been wanting to try it. > On Nov 12, 2023, at 7:52 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote: > > Hello friends. > > I appreciate that none of you know me personally and like me have no idea >