RE: Bone conduction Headphones

[Simon A Fogarty]

Thanks Christopher,

Much appreciated and good to know.

Cheers.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bone conduction Headphones

I certainly understand the point about the cost of the Airpod Pro’s. The Bose 
Frames are another interesting option, but they may be too pricy as well. The 
sound quality is better than the Trekz Titanioums, and they also don’t go in 
your ears. The battery life is pretty short though. Again, they’re not bone 
conduction either. For exercising, I’d still go with the Trekz Titaniums over 
the Airpod Pro’s or the Bose Frames.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Bone conduction Headphones

Yeah the airpods pro would be great but they cost a bit to much for the user 
wanting them here in NZ.

And with bone conduction they can listen while listening.

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Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2020 11:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Bone conduction Headphones

I also feel the same way about my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz.

These aren’t bone conduction options, but the Airpod Pro’s with their 
transparency mode also have a place, as do the Bose Frames. These are 
especially good options if you want better audio quality then you’ll get from 
the Trekz Titaniums.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 4:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bone conduction Headphones

Hi Simon. I've been quite happy with my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz. In 
fact, I've never felt the need to try any other brand. They have built in voice 
guidance, are easy to use and do a good job sonically. I don't use them to hear 
audio dramas or music if I don't have to. I much prefer my AirPods. However, if 
I'm walking or out where I might easily loose my AirPods, they're great for 
walking, reading books with synthetic speech, listenning to podcasts, etc. when 
you need your actual hearing, the trade of worse sound quality is well worth 
it. The other down side of these headsets is that the microphones aren't great. 
You can be understood on phone calls but that's about it. I wouldn't want to be 
interviewed using them to record my speech. Hope that helps.

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mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:










Hi Lists,



I’m just wondering if anyone uses Bone Conduction Headphones with their iPhones 
or iPads,



If folks are I’m just wondering what brands / models are people using?



I’m looking for the best option for a friend to use while they are walking etc,



Any help would be appreciated.





Cheers,





Simon F










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RE: Bone conduction Headphones

[chaltain]

I certainly understand the point about the cost of the Airpod Pro’s. The Bose 
Frames are another interesting option, but they may be too pricy as well. The 
sound quality is better than the Trekz Titanioums, and they also don’t go in 
your ears. The battery life is pretty short though. Again, they’re not bone 
conduction either. For exercising, I’d still go with the Trekz Titaniums over 
the Airpod Pro’s or the Bose Frames.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

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Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bone conduction Headphones

 

Yeah the airpods pro would be great but they cost a bit to much for the user 
wanting them here in NZ.

 

And with bone conduction they can listen while listening.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Bone conduction Headphones

 

I also feel the same way about my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz.

 

These aren’t bone conduction options, but the Airpod Pro’s with their 
transparency mode also have a place, as do the Bose Frames. These are 
especially good options if you want better audio quality then you’ll get from 
the Trekz Titaniums.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 4:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Bone conduction Headphones

 

Hi Simon. I've been quite happy with my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz. In 
fact, I've never felt the need to try any other brand. They have built in voice 
guidance, are easy to use and do a good job sonically. I don't use them to hear 
audio dramas or music if I don't have to. I much prefer my AirPods. However, if 
I'm walking or out where I might easily loose my AirPods, they're great for 
walking, reading books with synthetic speech, listenning to podcasts, etc. when 
you need your actual hearing, the trade of worse sound quality is well worth 
it. The other down side of these headsets is that the microphones aren't great. 
You can be understood on phone calls but that's about it. I wouldn't want to be 
interviewed using them to record my speech. Hope that helps.

 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:09 AM Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:












 

 

Hi Lists,

 

 

 

I’m just wondering if anyone uses Bone Conduction Headphones with their iPhones 
or iPads,

 

 

 

If folks are I’m just wondering what brands / models are people using?

 

 

 

I’m looking for the best option for a friend to use while they are walking etc,

 

 

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Bone conduction Headphones

[Simon A Fogarty]

Thanks but the pro airpods are to costly and waring one while cycling could be 
interesting for this person.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Bierman
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 11:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bone conduction Headphones

There are lots. I've had a couple of cheap no-name chinese headsets. 
https://news.soulrunnner.com/best-conduction-headphones-2020/?gclid=CjwKCAjwzIH7BRAbEiwAoDxxTnOpwN-dpGAJkc0ciDbn8-MABqj_8e6X438k-PFM-YYV1igMTGH_wBoCmPMQAvD_BwE
 has reviews of several.

Personally, I prefer the Apple AirPods pro in transparency mode, and/or wearing 
just one. But it's all what one gets used to, I suppose

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:40 PM Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
So the key thing here is that the sound quality is not overly fantastic which 
to me makes sense,

But they do allow the user to hear what is both happening from the headphones 
and what is happening around the user environmentally

So they would be a good choice if someone was walking or cycling a lot?

Does anyone know of any other brands of bone conduction headphones other than 
the after shocks?

Thanks.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2020 9:47 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bone conduction Headphones

Hi Simon. I've been quite happy with my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz. In 
fact, I've never felt the need to try any other brand. They have built in voice 
guidance, are easy to use and do a good job sonically. I don't use them to hear 
audio dramas or music if I don't have to. I much prefer my AirPods. However, if 
I'm walking or out where I might easily loose my AirPods, they're great for 
walking, reading books with synthetic speech, listenning to podcasts, etc. when 
you need your actual hearing, the trade of worse sound quality is well worth 
it. The other down side of these headsets is that the microphones aren't great. 
You can be understood on phone calls but that's about it. I wouldn't want to be 
interviewed using them to record my speech. Hope that helps.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:09 AM Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:












Hi Lists,



I’m just wondering if anyone uses Bone Conduction Headphones with their iPhones 
or iPads,



If folks are I’m just wondering what brands / models are people using?



I’m looking for the best option for a friend to use while they are walking etc,



Any help would be appreciated.





Cheers,





Simon F












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Re: Bone conduction Headphones

[Keith Bierman]

There are lots. I've had a couple of cheap no-name chinese headsets.
https://news.soulrunnner.com/best-conduction-headphones-2020/?gclid=CjwKCAjwzIH7BRAbEiwAoDxxTnOpwN-dpGAJkc0ciDbn8-MABqj_8e6X438k-PFM-YYV1igMTGH_wBoCmPMQAvD_BwE
has
reviews of several.

Personally, I prefer the Apple AirPods pro in transparency mode, and/or
wearing just one. But it's all what one gets used to, I suppose

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:40 PM Simon A Fogarty 
wrote:

> So the key thing here is that the sound quality is not overly fantastic
> which to me makes sense,
>
>
>
> But they do allow the user to hear what is both happening from the
> headphones and what is happening around the user environmentally
>
>
>
> So they would be a good choice if someone was walking or cycling a lot?
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of any other brands of bone conduction headphones other
> than the after shocks?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Michael Feir
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 15 September 2020 9:47 pm
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Bone conduction Headphones
>
>
>
> Hi Simon. I've been quite happy with my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz.
> In fact, I've never felt the need to try any other brand. They have built
> in voice guidance, are easy to use and do a good job sonically. I don't use
> them to hear audio dramas or music if I don't have to. I much prefer my
> AirPods. However, if I'm walking or out where I might easily loose my
> AirPods, they're great for walking, reading books with synthetic speech,
> listenning to podcasts, etc. when you need your actual hearing, the trade
> of worse sound quality is well worth it. The other down side of these
> headsets is that the microphones aren't great. You can be understood on
> phone calls but that's about it. I wouldn't want to be interviewed using
> them to record my speech. Hope that helps.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:09 AM Simon A Fogarty 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Lists,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I’m just wondering if anyone uses Bone Conduction Headphones with their
> iPhones or iPads,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If folks are I’m just wondering what brands / models are people using?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I’m looking for the best option for a friend to use while they are walking
> etc,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Simon F
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Bone conduction Headphones

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah the airpods pro would be great but they cost a bit to much for the user 
wanting them here in NZ.

And with bone conduction they can listen while listening.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2020 11:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bone conduction Headphones

I also feel the same way about my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz.

These aren’t bone conduction options, but the Airpod Pro’s with their 
transparency mode also have a place, as do the Bose Frames. These are 
especially good options if you want better audio quality then you’ll get from 
the Trekz Titaniums.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bone conduction Headphones

Hi Simon. I've been quite happy with my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz. In 
fact, I've never felt the need to try any other brand. They have built in voice 
guidance, are easy to use and do a good job sonically. I don't use them to hear 
audio dramas or music if I don't have to. I much prefer my AirPods. However, if 
I'm walking or out where I might easily loose my AirPods, they're great for 
walking, reading books with synthetic speech, listenning to podcasts, etc. when 
you need your actual hearing, the trade of worse sound quality is well worth 
it. The other down side of these headsets is that the microphones aren't great. 
You can be understood on phone calls but that's about it. I wouldn't want to be 
interviewed using them to record my speech. Hope that helps.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:09 AM Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:












Hi Lists,



I’m just wondering if anyone uses Bone Conduction Headphones with their iPhones 
or iPads,



If folks are I’m just wondering what brands / models are people using?



I’m looking for the best option for a friend to use while they are walking etc,



Any help would be appreciated.





Cheers,





Simon F












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RE: Bone conduction Headphones

[Simon A Fogarty]

So the key thing here is that the sound quality is not overly fantastic which 
to me makes sense,

But they do allow the user to hear what is both happening from the headphones 
and what is happening around the user environmentally

So they would be a good choice if someone was walking or cycling a lot?

Does anyone know of any other brands of bone conduction headphones other than 
the after shocks?

Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2020 9:47 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bone conduction Headphones

Hi Simon. I've been quite happy with my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz. In 
fact, I've never felt the need to try any other brand. They have built in voice 
guidance, are easy to use and do a good job sonically. I don't use them to hear 
audio dramas or music if I don't have to. I much prefer my AirPods. However, if 
I'm walking or out where I might easily loose my AirPods, they're great for 
walking, reading books with synthetic speech, listenning to podcasts, etc. when 
you need your actual hearing, the trade of worse sound quality is well worth 
it. The other down side of these headsets is that the microphones aren't great. 
You can be understood on phone calls but that's about it. I wouldn't want to be 
interviewed using them to record my speech. Hope that helps.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:09 AM Simon A Fogarty 
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Hi Lists,



I’m just wondering if anyone uses Bone Conduction Headphones with their iPhones 
or iPads,



If folks are I’m just wondering what brands / models are people using?



I’m looking for the best option for a friend to use while they are walking etc,



Any help would be appreciated.





Cheers,





Simon F













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RE: Bone conduction Headphones

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I also feel the same way about my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz.

 

These aren’t bone conduction options, but the Airpod Pro’s with their 
transparency mode also have a place, as do the Bose Frames. These are 
especially good options if you want better audio quality then you’ll get from 
the Trekz Titaniums.

 

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Hi Simon. I've been quite happy with my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz. In 
fact, I've never felt the need to try any other brand. They have built in voice 
guidance, are easy to use and do a good job sonically. I don't use them to hear 
audio dramas or music if I don't have to. I much prefer my AirPods. However, if 
I'm walking or out where I might easily loose my AirPods, they're great for 
walking, reading books with synthetic speech, listenning to podcasts, etc. when 
you need your actual hearing, the trade of worse sound quality is well worth 
it. The other down side of these headsets is that the microphones aren't great. 
You can be understood on phone calls but that's about it. I wouldn't want to be 
interviewed using them to record my speech. Hope that helps.

 

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Hi Lists,

 

 

 

I’m just wondering if anyone uses Bone Conduction Headphones with their iPhones 
or iPads,

 

 

 

If folks are I’m just wondering what brands / models are people using?

 

 

 

I’m looking for the best option for a friend to use while they are walking etc,

 

 

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Bone conduction Headphones

[Michael Feir]

Hi Simon. I've been quite happy with my Trekz Titaniums from Aftershokz. In
fact, I've never felt the need to try any other brand. They have built in
voice guidance, are easy to use and do a good job sonically. I don't use
them to hear audio dramas or music if I don't have to. I much prefer my
AirPods. However, if I'm walking or out where I might easily loose my
AirPods, they're great for walking, reading books with synthetic speech,
listenning to podcasts, etc. when you need your actual hearing, the trade
of worse sound quality is well worth it. The other down side of these
headsets is that the microphones aren't great. You can be understood on
phone calls but that's about it. I wouldn't want to be interviewed using
them to record my speech. Hope that helps.

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RE: Axon V99 hearing aid: was: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have had sound amplifiers and regular hearing aids, find, unfortunatelyu, 
regular hearing aids far superior. 

Best regards,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Axon V99 hearing aid: was: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I 
expected

 
Has anyone used one of these aids?  They are very cheap:  only 30$NZ  [21$US]. 
They have a 4.5 rating if the feedback is to be believed.
They are made, specifically:   or that is how I read it:  for amplifying speech.
As it is rare:  well, relatively so:  for me to speak to someone person to 
person/face to face:  I do not want to spend a lot of money, which I have done 
in the past, and I still have to keep asking for my companion to repeat what 
he/she has said:  a constant request which must put a strain on his/her 
patience.
Remarkedly from time to time, I can, clearly, hear very very tiny sounds and on 
my left side too which is my, particularly, bad side.  I will give you an 
example.  A few nights ago, I opened the backdoor and spoke to Guideon, my dog. 
 He was about 5 feet to my left which is my bad side for hearing, but I, 
actually, heard him move a paw and one claw made the faintest click on the 
concrete!!!
It was Deslie, my sister who discovered the Axon v99 on the 'net.  They are not 
available in New Zealand so she has sent off to China where they are 
manufactured.  She says that, at the price, if it turns out to be nothing other 
than a little box of useless junk,, little will be lost if it is tossed into 
the rubbish or recycling bin!
 
Jewel
From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected


I recently bought the Trekz Titanium Air which I like, but I am not 100% happy 
with how there is a non-adjustable band or whatever you want to call it behind 
your head. For me it’s wway to big and if I push it further up my head where 
it’s lying against my head then it doesn’t really stay there during walking. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

 

 

The volume will never be loud enough when walking in noisy traffic. 

That is the only downside to having your ears uncovered, which of course, is 
also the upside to using bone conduction.

If you need the gps info while in noisy areas, there really isn't a good 
solution.

If you just want info while hearing your surroundings they are fine.

I will say as someone who has not been able to where the previous Aftershokz, I 
had an opportunity to try the Trex titanium the other day and they are more 
comfortable by far.

Richard

 

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any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Michael Feir mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com> > wrote:

That's the main thing to realise about bone conduction. You're never 
going to get the same richness of sound that you would from earbuds or 
headphones. The upside is that you can't really damage your hearing with them 
since the sound goes through your skull. They're ideal for reading a book or 
listening to GPS instructions while walking so you can still hear your 
surroundings normally with your ears. They also don't interfere with hearing 
aids which is a plus in my case. One major minus is that I find the microphone 
in the Trekz Titanium leaves much to be desired. I would never do a recording 
with it. You can be understood by Siri and on phone calls but it's an area 
where I'd like some improvement. I don't regret my backing of the Trekz 
Titaniums when they came out and will upgrade to whatever the current 
generation of Aftershokz is when these ones fail. Aftershokz customer service 
and warranty has been very good and they quickly replaced a set which broke 
without fuss.

 

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

I love my treks titanium. I didn’t buy them for music but 
they’re just fine for gps navigation instructions.

 

 

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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
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Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

 

Axon V99 hearing aid: was: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Jewel]

Has anyone used one of these aids?  They are very cheap:  only 30$NZ  [21$US]. 
They have a 4.5 rating if the feedback is to be believed.
They are made, specifically:   or that is how I read it:  for amplifying speech.
As it is rare:  well, relatively so:  for me to speak to someone person to 
person/face to face:  I do not want to spend a lot of money, which I have done 
in the past, and I still have to keep asking for my companion to repeat what 
he/she has said:  a constant request which must put a strain on his/her 
patience.
Remarkedly from time to time, I can, clearly, hear very very tiny sounds and on 
my left side too which is my, particularly, bad side.  I will give you an 
example.  A few nights ago, I opened the backdoor and spoke to Guideon, my dog. 
 He was about 5 feet to my left which is my bad side for hearing, but I, 
actually, heard him move a paw and one claw made the faintest click on the 
concrete!!!
It was Deslie, my sister who discovered the Axon v99 on the 'net.  They are not 
available in New Zealand so she has sent off to China where they are 
manufactured.  She says that, at the price, if it turns out to be nothing other 
than a little box of useless junk,, little will be lost if it is tossed into 
the rubbish or recycling bin!

Jewel
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected


I recently bought the Trekz Titanium Air which I like, but I am not 100% happy 
with how there is a non-adjustable band or whatever you want to call it behind 
your head. For me it’s wway to big and if I push it further up my head where 
it’s lying against my head then it doesn’t really stay there during walking. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

 

 

The volume will never be loud enough when walking in noisy traffic. 

That is the only downside to having your ears uncovered, which of course, is 
also the upside to using bone conduction.

If you need the gps info while in noisy areas, there really isn't a good 
solution.

If you just want info while hearing your surroundings they are fine.

I will say as someone who has not been able to where the previous Aftershokz, I 
had an opportunity to try the Trex titanium the other day and they are more 
comfortable by far.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Michael Feir  wrote:

  That's the main thing to realise about bone conduction. You're never going to 
get the same richness of sound that you would from earbuds or headphones. The 
upside is that you can't really damage your hearing with them since the sound 
goes through your skull. They're ideal for reading a book or listening to GPS 
instructions while walking so you can still hear your surroundings normally 
with your ears. They also don't interfere with hearing aids which is a plus in 
my case. One major minus is that I find the microphone in the Trekz Titanium 
leaves much to be desired. I would never do a recording with it. You can be 
understood by Siri and on phone calls but it's an area where I'd like some 
improvement. I don't regret my backing of the Trekz Titaniums when they came 
out and will upgrade to whatever the current generation of Aftershokz is when 
these ones fail. Aftershokz customer service and warranty has been very good 
and they quickly replaced a set which broke without fuss.

   

  On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM Larry Lumpkin  wrote:

I love my treks titanium. I didn’t buy them for music but they’re just fine 
for gps navigation instructions.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; R Van Lant 
Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

 

I have a pair of Aftershokz Trekz Titaniums, and I love them. They're my go 
to headphones now. I find them super comfortable and the sound quality is much 
better then the Aftershokz Bluez which they replaced. I can see where volume 
might be a problem if you're in a really noisy environment, but I'm able to 
crank the volume up enough when I'm in the car and there's quite a bit a road 
noise.

 

On 4/6/19 8:56 AM, R Van Lant wrote:

  Hi,

  I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction 
headphones.  I recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after hearing 
a podcast on them.  I had been considering this purchase for a while because my 
ears have been feeling sensitive to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I 
naively thought that there really was something special to how the sound was 
conducted, but my experience with these is similar to year

Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Christopher Chaltain]

Sometimes the supplied ear plugs are exactly what we want. True, the 
reason to get bone conduction headphones is to hear ambient sounds, but 
there are times, when even a blind person want some passive noise 
cancellation. providing the ear plugs makes the Trekz Titaniums just a 
bit more versatile in my opinion, which is a good thing, especially when 
people can't afford multiple headphones.




On 4/6/19 11:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Yes, but I find the point where they are vibrating not pleasant and in 
a place where it is really loud that still isn’t enough. The point is 
that as soon as you plug up your ears and shut out the ambient noise 
you can hear them just fine and mine in fact came with a little 
plastic box with a set of foam earplugs, but of course for us blind 
folks that is exactly what we don’t want.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Andy Baracco

*Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2019 1:29 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

perhaps you are not placing the transducers properly.  i have the 
Trekz Airs and have also had the previous models.  They can get very 
loud, in fact, they can get to the point where they are vibrating on 
your head.  Also, you may need to turn up the source volume.


Andy

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*Sent:*Saturday, April 06, 2019 7:15 AM

    *Subject:*RE: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

Hi Robin. I have a pair of aftershocks. They were the first pair
that I got years ago when they first came out. And what you
describe is what I have exspearinced as well. In this case the
aftershocks that I have go around the back of your neck and rest
below the ears. As you said I agree the volume is not lowd enough
to hear when walking in noisy places but I am not one to wair ear
buds or ear phones wile out walking anyways. I hope this helps.
From Mich.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *R Van Lant
*Sent:* April 6, 2019 9:57 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

Hi,

I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction
headphones.  I recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access
after hearing a podcast on them.  I had been considering this
purchase for a while because my ears have been feeling sensitive
to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively thought that
there really was something special to how the sound was conducted,
but my experience with these is similar to years ago when I used
to place my over the head padded headphones just in front of my
ears and turn up the volume.  I am actually finding that the
volume on these is not loud enough to hear when I’m walking along
a traffic filled road.  Is  my experience similar to yours?  At
this point, I’m really not finding them worth the investment and
glad I did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears have just felt
so sensitive to earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my
hearing when I listened to stuff in noisy areas.

Robin

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Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Christopher Chaltain]

No need to guess, since it's right on the Aftershokz web site. The 
sizing chart let's you determine if you need the Trekz Titaniums or the 
Trekz Titanium Minis. 
https://aftershokz.com/collections/all/products/trekz-titanium



On 4/7/19 6:33 AM, Cristobal Munoz wrote:
I’m pretty sure there is a sizing chart one can use to buy different 
sizes with. I’ve got a fairly big noggin at 7 3/8 inches, so for fit, 
it’s not an issue for me. I don’t recall personally using a chart, so 
maybe the bigger size is the default. I do recall other people 
mentioning it though. This would only make sense since women use them 
as well.



On Apr 6, 2019, at 9:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:


I recently bought the Trekz Titanium Air which I like, but I am not 
100% happy with how there is a non-adjustable band or whatever you 
want to call it behind your head. For me it’s wway to big and if I 
push it further up my head where it’s lying against my head then it 
doesn’t really stay there during walking.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2019 8:21 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

The volume will never be loud enough when walking in noisy traffic.

That is the only downside to having your ears uncovered, which of 
course, is also the upside to using bone conduction.


If you need the gps info while in noisy areas, there really isn't a 
good solution.


If you just want info while hearing your surroundings they are fine.

I will say as someone who has not been able to where the previous 
Aftershokz, I had an opportunity to try the Trex titanium the other 
day and they are more comfortable by far.


Richard

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Michael Feir <mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:


That's the main thing to realise about bone conduction. You're
never going to get the same richness of sound that you would from
earbuds or headphones. The upside is that you can't really damage
your hearing with them since the sound goes through your skull.
They're ideal for reading a book or listening to GPS instructions
while walking so you can still hear your surroundings normally
with your ears. They also don't interfere with hearing aids which
is a plus in my case. One major minus is that I find the
microphone in the Trekz Titanium leaves much to be desired. I
would never do a recording with it. You can be understood by Siri
and on phone calls but it's an area where I'd like some
improvement. I don't regret my backing of the Trekz Titaniums
when they came out and will upgrade to whatever the current
generation of Aftershokz is when these ones fail. Aftershokz
customer service and warranty has been very good and they quickly
replaced a set which broke without fuss.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM Larry Lumpkin
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

I love my treks titanium. I didn’t buy them for music but
they’re just fine for gps navigation instructions.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *Christopher
Chaltain
*Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:03 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; R Van Lant
mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>>
*Subject:* Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

I have a pair of Aftershokz Trekz Titaniums, and I love them.
They're my go to headphones now. I find them super
comfortable and the sound quality is much better then the
Aftershokz Bluez which they replaced. I can see where volume
might be a problem if you're in a really noisy environment,
but I'm able to crank the volume up enough when I'm in the
car and there's quite a bit a road noise.

On 4/6/19 8:56 AM, R Van Lant wrote:

Hi,

I’m looking for input from those who have used bone
conduction headphones.  I recently ordered my first  pair
from Mystic Access after hearing a podcast on them.  I
had been considering this purchase for a while because my
ears have been feeling sensitive to having earbuds
directly  in my ears.   I naively thought that there
really was something special to how the sound was
conducted, but my experience with these is similar to
years ago when I used to place my over the head padded
headphones just in front of my ears and

Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Cristobal Munoz]

I’m pretty sure there is a sizing chart one can use to buy different sizes 
with. I’ve got a fairly big noggin at 7 3/8 inches, so for fit, it’s not an 
issue for me. I don’t recall personally using a chart, so maybe the bigger size 
is the default. I do recall other people mentioning it though. This would only 
make sense since women use them as well.


> On Apr 6, 2019, at 9:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I recently bought the Trekz Titanium Air which I like, but I am not 100% 
> happy with how there is a non-adjustable band or whatever you want to call it 
> behind your head. For me it’s wway to big and if I push it further up my head 
> where it’s lying against my head then it doesn’t really stay there during 
> walking.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected
>  
>  
> The volume will never be loud enough when walking in noisy traffic.
> That is the only downside to having your ears uncovered, which of course, is 
> also the upside to using bone conduction.
> If you need the gps info while in noisy areas, there really isn't a good 
> solution.
> If you just want info while hearing your surroundings they are fine.
> I will say as someone who has not been able to where the previous Aftershokz, 
> I had an opportunity to try the Trex titanium the other day and they are more 
> comfortable by far.
> Richard
>  
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
>  
> 
> On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> That's the main thing to realise about bone conduction. You're never going to 
> get the same richness of sound that you would from earbuds or headphones. The 
> upside is that you can't really damage your hearing with them since the sound 
> goes through your skull. They're ideal for reading a book or listening to GPS 
> instructions while walking so you can still hear your surroundings normally 
> with your ears. They also don't interfere with hearing aids which is a plus 
> in my case. One major minus is that I find the microphone in the Trekz 
> Titanium leaves much to be desired. I would never do a recording with it. You 
> can be understood by Siri and on phone calls but it's an area where I'd like 
> some improvement. I don't regret my backing of the Trekz Titaniums when they 
> came out and will upgrade to whatever the current generation of Aftershokz is 
> when these ones fail. Aftershokz customer service and warranty has been very 
> good and they quickly replaced a set which broke without fuss.
>  
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> I love my treks titanium. I didn’t buy them for music but they’re just fine 
> for gps navigation instructions.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; R Van Lant 
> Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected
>  
> I have a pair of Aftershokz Trekz Titaniums, and I love them. They're my go 
> to headphones now. I find them super comfortable and the sound quality is 
> much better then the Aftershokz Bluez which they replaced. I can see where 
> volume might be a problem if you're in a really noisy environment, but I'm 
> able to crank the volume up enough when I'm in the car and there's quite a 
> bit a road noise.
> 
>  
> 
> On 4/6/19 8:56 AM, R Van Lant wrote:
> Hi,
> I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction headphones.  I 
> recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after hearing a podcast on 
> them.  I had been considering this purchase for a while because my ears have 
> been feeling sensitive to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively 
> thought that there really was something special to how the sound was 
> conducted, but my experience with these is similar to years ago when I used 
> to place my over the head padded headphones just in front of my ears and turn 
> up the volume.  I am actually finding that the volume on these is not loud 
> enough to hear when I’m walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  my 
> experience similar to yours?  At this point, I’m really not finding them 
> worth the investment and glad I did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears 
> have just felt so sensitive to earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my 
> hearing when I listened to stuff in noisy areas. 
>  
> Robin
>  
>  
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RE: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, but I find the point where they are vibrating not pleasant and in a place 
where it is really loud that still isn’t enough. The point is that as soon as 
you plug up your ears and shut out the ambient noise you can hear them just 
fine and mine in fact came with a little plastic box with a set of foam 
earplugs, but of course for us blind folks that is exactly what we don’t want.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

perhaps you are not placing the transducers properly.  i have the Trekz Airs 
and have also had the previous models.  They can get very loud, in fact, they 
can get to the point where they are vibrating on your head.  Also, you may need 
to turn up the source volume.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Mich Verrier<mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2019 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

Hi Robin. I have a pair of aftershocks. They were the first pair that I got 
years ago when they first came out. And what you describe is what I have 
exspearinced as well. In this case the aftershocks that I have go around the 
back of your neck and rest below the ears. As you said I agree the volume is 
not lowd enough to hear when walking in noisy places but I am not one to wair 
ear buds or ear phones wile out walking anyways. I hope this helps. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: April 6, 2019 9:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

Hi,
I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction headphones.  I 
recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after hearing a podcast on 
them.  I had been considering this purchase for a while because my ears have 
been feeling sensitive to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively 
thought that there really was something special to how the sound was conducted, 
but my experience with these is similar to years ago when I used to place my 
over the head padded headphones just in front of my ears and turn up the 
volume.  I am actually finding that the volume on these is not loud enough to 
hear when I’m walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  my experience similar 
to yours?  At this point, I’m really not finding them worth the investment and 
glad I did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears have just felt so sensitive 
to earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my hearing when I listened to stuff 
in noisy areas.

Robin



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RE: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I recently bought the Trekz Titanium Air which I like, but I am not 100% happy 
with how there is a non-adjustable band or whatever you want to call it behind 
your head. For me it’s wway to big and if I push it further up my head where 
it’s lying against my head then it doesn’t really stay there during walking.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected


The volume will never be loud enough when walking in noisy traffic.
That is the only downside to having your ears uncovered, which of course, is 
also the upside to using bone conduction.
If you need the gps info while in noisy areas, there really isn't a good 
solution.
If you just want info while hearing your surroundings they are fine.
I will say as someone who has not been able to where the previous Aftershokz, I 
had an opportunity to try the Trex titanium the other day and they are more 
comfortable by far.
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Michael Feir 
mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That's the main thing to realise about bone conduction. You're never going to 
get the same richness of sound that you would from earbuds or headphones. The 
upside is that you can't really damage your hearing with them since the sound 
goes through your skull. They're ideal for reading a book or listening to GPS 
instructions while walking so you can still hear your surroundings normally 
with your ears. They also don't interfere with hearing aids which is a plus in 
my case. One major minus is that I find the microphone in the Trekz Titanium 
leaves much to be desired. I would never do a recording with it. You can be 
understood by Siri and on phone calls but it's an area where I'd like some 
improvement. I don't regret my backing of the Trekz Titaniums when they came 
out and will upgrade to whatever the current generation of Aftershokz is when 
these ones fail. Aftershokz customer service and warranty has been very good 
and they quickly replaced a set which broke without fuss.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
I love my treks titanium. I didn’t buy them for music but they’re just fine for 
gps navigation instructions.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; R Van Lant 
mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>>
Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected


I have a pair of Aftershokz Trekz Titaniums, and I love them. They're my go to 
headphones now. I find them super comfortable and the sound quality is much 
better then the Aftershokz Bluez which they replaced. I can see where volume 
might be a problem if you're in a really noisy environment, but I'm able to 
crank the volume up enough when I'm in the car and there's quite a bit a road 
noise.


On 4/6/19 8:56 AM, R Van Lant wrote:
Hi,
I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction headphones.  I 
recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after hearing a podcast on 
them.  I had been considering this purchase for a while because my ears have 
been feeling sensitive to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively 
thought that there really was something special to how the sound was conducted, 
but my experience with these is similar to years ago when I used to place my 
over the head padded headphones just in front of my ears and turn up the 
volume.  I am actually finding that the volume on these is not loud enough to 
hear when I’m walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  my experience similar 
to yours?  At this point, I’m really not finding them worth the investment and 
glad I did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears have just felt so sensitive 
to earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my hearing when I listened to stuff 
in noisy areas.

Robin



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Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Andy Baracco]

perhaps you are not placing the transducers properly.  i have the Trekz Airs 
and have also had the previous models.  They can get very loud, in fact, they 
can get to the point where they are vibrating on your head.  Also, you may need 
to turn up the source volume.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mich Verrier 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2019 7:15 AM
  Subject: RE: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected


  Hi Robin. I have a pair of aftershocks. They were the first pair that I got 
years ago when they first came out. And what you describe is what I have 
exspearinced as well. In this case the aftershocks that I have go around the 
back of your neck and rest below the ears. As you said I agree the volume is 
not lowd enough to hear when walking in noisy places but I am not one to wair 
ear buds or ear phones wile out walking anyways. I hope this helps. From Mich.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
  Sent: April 6, 2019 9:57 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

   

  Hi,

  I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction headphones.  I 
recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after hearing a podcast on 
them.  I had been considering this purchase for a while because my ears have 
been feeling sensitive to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively 
thought that there really was something special to how the sound was conducted, 
but my experience with these is similar to years ago when I used to place my 
over the head padded headphones just in front of my ears and turn up the 
volume.  I am actually finding that the volume on these is not loud enough to 
hear when I’m walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  my experience similar 
to yours?  At this point, I’m really not finding them worth the investment and 
glad I did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears have just felt so sensitive 
to earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my hearing when I listened to stuff 
in noisy areas.  

   

  Robin

   

   

   

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RE: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Cristobal Muñoz]

They’re not really meant for the audiophile per say. Indeed, one of it’s main 
selling points is that you can still hear ambient noise if you’re out and about.

I’m on my computer all day mainly with headphones for my business, so I kind of 
use these to give my ears a break whenever I can. Kind of like if you spend all 
day looking at the screen at work and want to unwind with a book or whatever in 
the evening. I can listen to an audiobook or podcast or even music or in 
general surf the net on my iPhone and give my ears a break.

I use my Aftershokz Trekz Air all day every day. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

 

 

The volume will never be loud enough when walking in noisy traffic. 

That is the only downside to having your ears uncovered, which of course, is 
also the upside to using bone conduction.

If you need the gps info while in noisy areas, there really isn't a good 
solution.

If you just want info while hearing your surroundings they are fine.

I will say as someone who has not been able to where the previous Aftershokz, I 
had an opportunity to try the Trex titanium the other day and they are more 
comfortable by far.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Michael Feir mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com> > wrote:

That's the main thing to realise about bone conduction. You're never going to 
get the same richness of sound that you would from earbuds or headphones. The 
upside is that you can't really damage your hearing with them since the sound 
goes through your skull. They're ideal for reading a book or listening to GPS 
instructions while walking so you can still hear your surroundings normally 
with your ears. They also don't interfere with hearing aids which is a plus in 
my case. One major minus is that I find the microphone in the Trekz Titanium 
leaves much to be desired. I would never do a recording with it. You can be 
understood by Siri and on phone calls but it's an area where I'd like some 
improvement. I don't regret my backing of the Trekz Titaniums when they came 
out and will upgrade to whatever the current generation of Aftershokz is when 
these ones fail. Aftershokz customer service and warranty has been very good 
and they quickly replaced a set which broke without fuss.

 

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

I love my treks titanium. I didn’t buy them for music but they’re just fine for 
gps navigation instructions.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; R Van Lant 
mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com> >
Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

 

I have a pair of Aftershokz Trekz Titaniums, and I love them. They're my go to 
headphones now. I find them super comfortable and the sound quality is much 
better then the Aftershokz Bluez which they replaced. I can see where volume 
might be a problem if you're in a really noisy environment, but I'm able to 
crank the volume up enough when I'm in the car and there's quite a bit a road 
noise.

 

On 4/6/19 8:56 AM, R Van Lant wrote:

Hi,

I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction headphones.  I 
recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after hearing a podcast on 
them.  I had been considering this purchase for a while because my ears have 
been feeling sensitive to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively 
thought that there really was something special to how the sound was conducted, 
but my experience with these is similar to years ago when I used to place my 
over the head padded headphones just in front of my ears and turn up the 
volume.  I am actually finding that the volume on these is not loud enough to 
hear when I’m walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  my experience similar 
to yours?  At this point, I’m really not finding them worth the investment and 
glad I did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears have just felt so sensitive 
to earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my hearing when I listened to stuff 
in noisy areas.  

 

Robin

 

 

 

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Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Richard Turner]

The volume will never be loud enough when walking in noisy traffic.
That is the only downside to having your ears uncovered, which of course, is 
also the upside to using bone conduction.
If you need the gps info while in noisy areas, there really isn't a good 
solution.
If you just want info while hearing your surroundings they are fine.
I will say as someone who has not been able to where the previous Aftershokz, I 
had an opportunity to try the Trex titanium the other day and they are more 
comfortable by far.
Richard



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On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Michael Feir 
mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That's the main thing to realise about bone conduction. You're never going to 
get the same richness of sound that you would from earbuds or headphones. The 
upside is that you can't really damage your hearing with them since the sound 
goes through your skull. They're ideal for reading a book or listening to GPS 
instructions while walking so you can still hear your surroundings normally 
with your ears. They also don't interfere with hearing aids which is a plus in 
my case. One major minus is that I find the microphone in the Trekz Titanium 
leaves much to be desired. I would never do a recording with it. You can be 
understood by Siri and on phone calls but it's an area where I'd like some 
improvement. I don't regret my backing of the Trekz Titaniums when they came 
out and will upgrade to whatever the current generation of Aftershokz is when 
these ones fail. Aftershokz customer service and warranty has been very good 
and they quickly replaced a set which broke without fuss.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
I love my treks titanium. I didn’t buy them for music but they’re just fine for 
gps navigation instructions.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; R Van Lant 
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Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected


I have a pair of Aftershokz Trekz Titaniums, and I love them. They're my go to 
headphones now. I find them super comfortable and the sound quality is much 
better then the Aftershokz Bluez which they replaced. I can see where volume 
might be a problem if you're in a really noisy environment, but I'm able to 
crank the volume up enough when I'm in the car and there's quite a bit a road 
noise.


On 4/6/19 8:56 AM, R Van Lant wrote:
Hi,
I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction headphones.  I 
recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after hearing a podcast on 
them.  I had been considering this purchase for a while because my ears have 
been feeling sensitive to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively 
thought that there really was something special to how the sound was conducted, 
but my experience with these is similar to years ago when I used to place my 
over the head padded headphones just in front of my ears and turn up the 
volume.  I am actually finding that the volume on these is not loud enough to 
hear when I’m walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  my experience similar 
to yours?  At this point, I’m really not finding them worth the investment and 
glad I did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears have just felt so sensitive 
to earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my hearing when I listened to stuff 
in noisy areas.

Robin



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Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Michael Feir]

That's the main thing to realise about bone conduction. You're never going
to get the same richness of sound that you would from earbuds or
headphones. The upside is that you can't really damage your hearing with
them since the sound goes through your skull. They're ideal for reading a
book or listening to GPS instructions while walking so you can still hear
your surroundings normally with your ears. They also don't interfere with
hearing aids which is a plus in my case. One major minus is that I find the
microphone in the Trekz Titanium leaves much to be desired. I would never
do a recording with it. You can be understood by Siri and on phone calls
but it's an area where I'd like some improvement. I don't regret my backing
of the Trekz Titaniums when they came out and will upgrade to whatever the
current generation of Aftershokz is when these ones fail. Aftershokz
customer service and warranty has been very good and they quickly replaced
a set which broke without fuss.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM Larry Lumpkin 
wrote:

> I love my treks titanium. I didn’t buy them for music but they’re just
> fine for gps navigation instructions.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Christopher Chaltain
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:03 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com; R Van Lant 
> *Subject:* Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected
>
>
>
> I have a pair of Aftershokz Trekz Titaniums, and I love them. They're my
> go to headphones now. I find them super comfortable and the sound quality
> is much better then the Aftershokz Bluez which they replaced. I can see
> where volume might be a problem if you're in a really noisy environment,
> but I'm able to crank the volume up enough when I'm in the car and there's
> quite a bit a road noise.
>
>
>
> On 4/6/19 8:56 AM, R Van Lant wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction
> headphones.  I recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after
> hearing a podcast on them.  I had been considering this purchase for a
> while because my ears have been feeling sensitive to having earbuds
> directly  in my ears.   I naively thought that there really was something
> special to how the sound was conducted, but my experience with these is
> similar to years ago when I used to place my over the head padded
> headphones just in front of my ears and turn up the volume.  I am actually
> finding that the volume on these is not loud enough to hear when I’m
> walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  my experience similar to yours?
> At this point, I’m really not finding them worth the investment and glad I
> did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears have just felt so sensitive to
> earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my hearing when I listened to
> stuff in noisy areas.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Robin. I have a pair of aftershocks. They were the first pair that I got 
years ago when they first came out. And what you describe is what I have 
exspearinced as well. In this case the aftershocks that I have go around the 
back of your neck and rest below the ears. As you said I agree the volume is 
not lowd enough to hear when walking in noisy places but I am not one to wair 
ear buds or ear phones wile out walking anyways. I hope this helps. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: April 6, 2019 9:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

 

Hi,

I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction headphones.  I 
recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after hearing a podcast on 
them.  I had been considering this purchase for a while because my ears have 
been feeling sensitive to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively 
thought that there really was something special to how the sound was conducted, 
but my experience with these is similar to years ago when I used to place my 
over the head padded headphones just in front of my ears and turn up the 
volume.  I am actually finding that the volume on these is not loud enough to 
hear when I’m walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  my experience similar 
to yours?  At this point, I’m really not finding them worth the investment and 
glad I did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears have just felt so sensitive 
to earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my hearing when I listened to stuff 
in noisy areas.  

 

Robin

 

 

 

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[Larry Lumpkin]

I love my treks titanium. I didn’t buy them for music but they’re just fine for 
gps navigation instructions.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; R Van Lant 
Subject: Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

 

I have a pair of Aftershokz Trekz Titaniums, and I love them. They're my go to 
headphones now. I find them super comfortable and the sound quality is much 
better then the Aftershokz Bluez which they replaced. I can see where volume 
might be a problem if you're in a really noisy environment, but I'm able to 
crank the volume up enough when I'm in the car and there's quite a bit a road 
noise.

 

On 4/6/19 8:56 AM, R Van Lant wrote:

Hi,

I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction headphones.  I 
recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access after hearing a podcast on 
them.  I had been considering this purchase for a while because my ears have 
been feeling sensitive to having earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively 
thought that there really was something special to how the sound was conducted, 
but my experience with these is similar to years ago when I used to place my 
over the head padded headphones just in front of my ears and turn up the 
volume.  I am actually finding that the volume on these is not loud enough to 
hear when I’m walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  my experience similar 
to yours?  At this point, I’m really not finding them worth the investment and 
glad I did not spend more on aftershokz.  My ears have just felt so sensitive 
to earbuds and I’m concerned about damaging my hearing when I listened to stuff 
in noisy areas.  

 

Robin

 

 

 

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Re: bone conduction headphones - not what I expected

[Christopher Chaltain]

I have a pair of Aftershokz Trekz Titaniums, and I love them. They're my 
go to headphones now. I find them super comfortable and the sound 
quality is much better then the Aftershokz Bluez which they replaced. I 
can see where volume might be a problem if you're in a really noisy 
environment, but I'm able to crank the volume up enough when I'm in the 
car and there's quite a bit a road noise.



On 4/6/19 8:56 AM, R Van Lant wrote:


Hi,

I’m looking for input from those who have used bone conduction 
headphones.  I recently ordered my first  pair from Mystic Access 
after hearing a podcast on them.  I had been considering this purchase 
for a while because my ears have been feeling sensitive to having 
earbuds directly  in my ears.   I naively thought that there really 
was something special to how the sound was conducted, but my 
experience with these is similar to years ago when I used to place my 
over the head padded headphones just in front of my ears and turn up 
the volume.  I am actually finding that the volume on these is not 
loud enough to hear when I’m walking along a traffic filled road.  Is  
my experience similar to yours?  At this point, I’m really not finding 
them worth the investment and glad I did not spend more on 
aftershokz.  My ears have just felt so sensitive to earbuds and I’m 
concerned about damaging my hearing when I listened to stuff in noisy 
areas.


Robin

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