Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Mary Otten]

Good idea about the mute switch and the vibrate. I should've thought of that. 
By the next time I get an iPhone  I probably will forget again.
Mary


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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 10:38 PM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, I tend to flick the mute switch, and once it vibrates, I triple 
> click.  I guess that's when you had to.
> 
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> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 19:45:00 -0700
> Subject: Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help
> 
> Hi Rajmund,
> I guess my problem was, I didn't know quite when to do the triple click home. 
>  The first thing that came up was that business with the rotating languages, 
> where you have to pick the one you want to use.  I guess I was expecting some 
> notification about turning on voiceover with triple click home.  There wasn't 
> one of those, at least if there was, my husband didn't see it.  So I didn't 
> actually click triple click home.  Everything turned out OK in the end.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:29 PM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?
> 
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> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
> Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help
> 
> Hi all,
> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So 
> I didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup. 
>  I started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me about 
> voiceover or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had 
> not been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since I've 
> tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way that 
> would let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  This 
> was missing.  What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went 
> ahead and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up 
> from scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still have. 
>  But I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start 
> voice over from the get-go.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Russ Kiehne]

triple clicking the home button did work when I set up my new Ipad mini 4 I 
bought a couple of weeks back.


-Original Message- 
From: rajmund

Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?

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From: Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided
help

Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from
scratch, hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been
having would go away.  So I didn't just plug it into my Mac and
go right away from my encrypted backup.  I started from scratch.
And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover or
letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had not
been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while
since I've tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought
Apple had a way that would let you turn voiceover on right at the
beginning of the process.  This was missing.  What didn't I do
that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended up
doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from
scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and
still have.  But I was really surprised that there wasn't
anything enabling me to start voice over from the get-go.
Mary


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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[rajmund]

Hi Mary, I tend to flick the mute switch, and once it vibrates, I 
triple click.  I guess that's when you had to.


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From: Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 19:45:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without 
sided help


Hi Rajmund,
I guess my problem was, I didn't know quite when to do the triple 
click home.  The first thing that came up was that business with 
the rotating languages, where you have to pick the one you want 
to use.  I guess I was expecting some notification about turning 
on voiceover with triple click home.  There wasn't one of those, 
at least if there was, my husband didn't see it.  So I didn't 
actually click triple click home.  Everything turned out OK in 
the end.

Mary


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On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:29 PM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?

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From: Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided 
help


Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out 
from scratch, hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been 
having would go away.  So I didn't just plug it into my Mac and 
go right away from my encrypted backup.  I started from scratch.  
And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover or 
letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had not 
been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while 
since I've tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought 
Apple had a way that would let you turn voiceover on right at the 
beginning of the process.  This was missing.  What didn't I do 
that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended up 
doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from 
scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and 
still have.  But I was really surprised that there wasn't 
anything enabling me to start voice over from the get-go.

Mary


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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Richard Turner]

Mary, in the past, at that point, where the language choice comes up, even 
though there was no prompting, the triple click home would turn on voiceOver. I 
had set up several phones that way without any sighted help at all.
I just do not know if that would have worked with iOS 10.
Richard


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On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:45 PM, Mary Otten 
<motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Rajmund,
I guess my problem was, I didn't know quite when to do the triple click home. 
The first thing that came up was that business with the rotating languages, 
where you have to pick the one you want to use. I guess I was expecting some 
notification about turning on voiceover with triple click home. There wasn't 
one of those, at least if there was, my husband didn't see it. So I didn't 
actually click triple click home. Everything turned out OK in the end.
Mary


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On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:29 PM, rajmund 
<brajmund2...@gmail.com<mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?

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Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So I 
didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup.  I 
started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover 
or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had not been 
there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since I've tried 
setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way that would let 
you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  This was missing. 
 What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended 
up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from scratch didn't 
fix any of the problems I had been having and still have.  But I was really 
surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start voice over from the 
get-go.
Mary


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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Mary Otten]

Hi Rajmund, 
I guess my problem was, I didn't know quite when to do the triple click home. 
The first thing that came up was that business with the rotating languages, 
where you have to pick the one you want to use. I guess I was expecting some 
notification about turning on voiceover with triple click home. There wasn't 
one of those, at least if there was, my husband didn't see it. So I didn't 
actually click triple click home. Everything turned out OK in the end.
Mary


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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:29 PM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?
> 
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> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
> Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help
> 
> Hi all,
> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So 
> I didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup. 
>  I started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me about 
> voiceover or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had 
> not been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since I've 
> tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way that 
> would let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  This 
> was missing.  What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went 
> ahead and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up 
> from scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still have. 
>  But I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start 
> voice over from the get-go.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Mary Otten]

Yes, iOS 10 was already installed.
Mary


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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have not set up an iPhone since the 6, but triple clicking home turned on 
> VoiceOver right after the phone powered up.
> Now, if it has iOS 10 installed by default, that could be the problem. iOS 10 
> seems to be defaulting with the triple click home on "Ask," because the new 
> magnifier is on. Was iOS 10 already installed?
> And since you have not been able to turn on Siri, you couldn't have used Siri 
> to turn it on.
> That will be frustrating.
> Richard
> 
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:30 PM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
>> Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
>> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So 
>> I didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted 
>> backup.  I started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me 
>> about voiceover or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband 
>> had not been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since 
>> I've tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way 
>> that would let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  
>> This was missing.  What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I 
>> went ahead and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set 
>> up from scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still 
>> have.  But I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to 
>> start voice over from the get-go.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Mary Otten]

Thanks for your offer. I got the phone set up just fine. It's interesting that 
my husband, who is cited, didn't see anything about skipping anything about 
VoiceOver turning it on etc. He did some initial set up. Then I turned on 
voiceover, once the screen was up after the initial set up. Then it I ended up 
going back and just using my encrypted backup, since it was going to be a fair 
amount of work to set up the apps like I had them before, and my attempt to get 
rid of some problems I was having was not successful. So I just use mine crept 
back up, and everything is OK.
Mary


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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marry and all.first of all, congratulations on your new iPhone.
> In the Initial setting, you need to turn on VoiceOver by clicking triple tap 
> on the home butten. If the button "skip" not pressed accedently you mmight to 
> be in the initial setting that allow to you to activate VoiceOver. If you not 
> made in the past, i am ready help you on skype or every way that you wanted. 
> Inorder to eto do the process correct.
> 
> Sent from  my iphone
> 
> ‫ב-4 באוק׳ 2016, בשעה 4:03, ‏‏Mary Otten ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus. I decided to start out from scratch, 
>> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away. So 
>> I didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted 
>> backup. I started from scratch. And there was nothing at all telling me 
>> about voiceover or letting me turn it on or anything. If my sighted husband 
>> had not been there, I would have been out of luck. It's been a while since 
>> I've tried setting up a device from scratch. But I thought Apple had a way 
>> that would let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process. 
>> This was missing. What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I 
>> went ahead and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set 
>> up from scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still 
>> have. But I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to 
>> start voice over from the get-go.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון]

Hi Marry and all.first of all, congratulations on your new iPhone.
In the Initial setting, you need to turn on VoiceOver by clicking triple tap on 
the home butten. If the button "skip" not pressed accedently you mmight to be 
in the initial setting that allow to you to activate VoiceOver. If you not made 
in the past, i am ready help you on skype or every way that you wanted. Inorder 
to eto do the process correct.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-4 באוק׳ 2016, בשעה 4:03, ‏‏Mary Otten ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Hi all,
> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus. I decided to start out from scratch, 
> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away. So I 
> didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup. I 
> started from scratch. And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover 
> or letting me turn it on or anything. If my sighted husband had not been 
> there, I would have been out of luck. It's been a while since I've tried 
> setting up a device from scratch. But I thought Apple had a way that would 
> let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process. This was 
> missing. What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead 
> and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from 
> scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still have. But 
> I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start voice 
> over from the get-go.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Richard Turner]

I have not set up an iPhone since the 6, but triple clicking home turned on 
VoiceOver right after the phone powered up.
Now, if it has iOS 10 installed by default, that could be the problem. iOS 10 
seems to be defaulting with the triple click home on "Ask," because the new 
magnifier is on. Was iOS 10 already installed?
And since you have not been able to turn on Siri, you couldn't have used Siri 
to turn it on.
That will be frustrating.
Richard


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On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:30 PM, rajmund 
<brajmund2...@gmail.com<mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?

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Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So I 
didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup.  I 
started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover 
or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had not been 
there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since I've tried 
setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way that would let 
you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  This was missing. 
 What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended 
up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from scratch didn't 
fix any of the problems I had been having and still have.  But I was really 
surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start voice over from the 
get-go.
Mary


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re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

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Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?

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Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided 
help


Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from 
scratch, hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been 
having would go away.  So I didn't just plug it into my Mac and 
go right away from my encrypted backup.  I started from scratch.  
And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover or 
letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had not 
been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while 
since I've tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought 
Apple had a way that would let you turn voiceover on right at the 
beginning of the process.  This was missing.  What didn't I do 
that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended up 
doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from 
scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and 
still have.  But I was really surprised that there wasn't 
anything enabling me to start voice over from the get-go.

Mary


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Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus. I decided to start out from scratch, 
hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away. So I 
didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup. I 
started from scratch. And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover 
or letting me turn it on or anything. If my sighted husband had not been there, 
I would have been out of luck. It's been a while since I've tried setting up a 
device from scratch. But I thought Apple had a way that would let you turn 
voiceover on right at the beginning of the process. This was missing. What 
didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended up 
doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from scratch didn't fix 
any of the problems I had been having and still have. But I was really 
surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start voice over from the 
get-go.
Mary


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